Advisor to the head of Zelensky's office suggested three possible outcomes of hostilities

According to Mikhail Podolyak, an adviser to the head of the office of the President of Ukraine, there are three possible outcomes for Kyiv of the completion of the Russian special military operation. At the same time, Podolyak considers only one of them to be positive.

On the air of the telethon, which has been broadcast by Ukrainian television for more than a year, Podolyak noted that if the Ukrainian Armed Forces win, Ukrainian statehood will be preserved. Moreover, Ukraine will take a dominant position in the region and acquire very clear partnership relations based on equal rights with the countries of Western Europe. In addition, Ukraine will be able to have a highly efficient and modernized army.

Podolyak does not consider the remaining two options for the further development of events to be positive. In the event of a defeat in an armed conflict, Ukraine, according to the adviser to the head of Zelensky's office, will cease to exist as a state within a few years.

In the remaining scenario, a line of demarcation will be formed and further agreements similar to the Minsk agreements will be concluded. In this case, Ukraine will also disappear, but this process will take a longer time.

It is worth noting that in any case, Ukraine will inevitably face the complete elimination of statehood. Even in the event of a hypothetical success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the battlefield, which is extremely unlikely, Ukraine will inevitably face numerous economic, demographic and social problems that are critical for the existence of this state.

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[parabyd]

This is a giant of thought, my respect! The match can end with the victory of one of the parties or a draw!

By the way, he apparently broadcasts from Yalta. He guaranteed that in May he would walk along the embankment ...

[Smoked]

Well, in fact, he is right. They will be either good or bad :) Try to challenge.

[dmi.pris1]

Personally, I don’t care, the clothes will be rotten after the defeat of these utyrks. In Yalta, Krasnodar, or Moscow Although it’s best to bury them somewhere in Transcarpathia, or near Lviv

[credo]

Since there is such a predictor in Ukraine, it means that there are also fans of his predictions with completely bruised brains.

When, 12 years ago, one citizen of Ukraine, foaming at the mouth, told me and proved that Ukraine would soon become the world's breadbasket and would live like Christ's in his bosom, I calmly offered him to give an example of at least one country in the world that was able to rise as he imagines. Further, my interlocutor carried complete nonsense about the fact that Ukraine is something inimitable and unique, completely forgetting that agricultural products have never accounted for the bulk of Ukraine's GDP.

It seems to me that this adviser is well aware of the situation about the future prospects of Ukraine, so he hangs noodles on the ears of potheads and builds a "nest" for himself far from his native land.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: credo

at least one country in the world that was able to rise in agriculture

Argentina, on beef. But for 100 years they have been going to dominate the meat market.

[Eugene 62]

"Argentina, on beef. But they've been going for 100 years to dominate the meat market."
Argentina had excellent starting conditions. Hard-working white population, good conditions for agriculture, minerals for industry. In the middle of the 19th century, many believed that this country would rush forward sharply. But none of this happened. The success of the country was very average. It was impossible to exploit the local population there. Everyone wanted to live well. And countries with harsh exploitation rushed forward. In the same USA or Japan, and even in Tsarist Russia, industry developed much more actively. Apart from growing beef, Argentina has not achieved anything significant. With a large amount of land suitable for pastures, this was not difficult to do. No high technology is needed here.

[Denis812]

If anything, then in Argentina it’s not agriculture at all, but industrial production in the economy is the main one.
Although it is called an agrarian-industrial country.

About myasko and so on, it's more of a habit. It has been 30 years since agriculture has been there, although it is very important, but not the main part of the GDP.
And the second. A country with 100% inflation, with ~10 defaults, last two years ago, 13% unemployment, and so on and so forth...
Well, for Ukraine, maybe this is also a "role model", but for a normal country - not at all :)

[TermNachTer]

No, here the idea is much louder))) as in the old Soviet joke about students. The question is what to do. A coin is taken, if it comes up heads - we go to plump, if it's "tails" - we go to the women, if it comes on edge - we go to study.

[tralflot1832]

I don’t remember, but there was another option - if it hangs in the air?

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: tralflot1832

I don’t remember, but there was another option - if it hangs in the air?

Was, was .. Eagle - we go to drink beer, tails - we go to the women. It will stand on edge - we write spurs, it will hang in the air - we sit down to teach.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote from: parabyd

By the way, he apparently broadcasts from Yalta. He guaranteed that in May he would walk along the embankment ...

Yes Easy. The whole question is what to consider Yalta :)))
“Remembered! Remembered! In Pushkino opened cheburek "Yalta". All clear! I went there, got drunk, and now telegraphs from there! (c) Master and Margarita

[Maria Hess]

Legitimate result of friendly Ukrainization of the 20th century.
That's where you're going, chimera.

[antivirus]

Is this the rejection stage?
Or the next one? How long does it take him to surrender?
Recruiting a scoundrel is a titanic job. Someone will cut down a stick and a star on shoulder straps

[APASUS]

Why is Zelensky called a drug addict? This adviser, in terms of the level of his delirium, sometimes surpasses Zeliboba. On the basis of what does he say this?

Moreover, Ukraine will take a dominant position in the region and acquire very clear partnership relations based on equal rights with the countries of Western Europe. In addition, Ukraine will be able to have a highly efficient and modernized army.

If we allow the APU to win, then what place will Ukraine take after the war? It is necessary to restore industry, build roads, clear arable land. Some kind of nonsense.

In the event of a defeat in an armed conflict, Ukraine, according to the adviser to the head of Zelensky's office, will cease to exist as a state within a few years.

As such, it no longer exists. But only Podolyak pretends to be a smart soothsayer. The country has already lost 5 regions and will never be the same

[Crimean partisan 1974]

that in case of victory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Ukrainian statehood will be preserved.

.... along the way, the hemp green arrived in time

[Uprun]

Reading only the title and knowing the mentality of the neighbors, I had an idea of ​​3 options:
- the outskirts will win;
-Russia will lose;
- Aliens will force the parties to peace.

[Al manah]

In addition to aliens, there are others: https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2467504

[rotmistr60]

Podolyak voiced scenarios that have long been discussed in the West. Naturally leaning towards the first thing Europe dreams about

in case of victory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Ukrainian statehood will be preserved

But at the same time, he does not speak as categorically as before. You can’t forbid dreaming, especially when dreams are unrealizable, but they warm the soul.

[Volunteer Marek]

All this, of course, can happen and is quite likely (the second and third options). But there is another very significant player - "the betrayal of national elites." This aspect can turn everything upside down. And, he, too, is very likely. History knows many examples of "stolen victories", especially Russian history.

[alexoff]

It is not clear why these are such bright prospects in the first version? The flow of money will dry up, and loans will have to be repaid. Here, at best, as with Poland in the twenties - the Germans liquidated their entire industry, purely with the help of the Entente, they coped with the USSR, but without this help they could not fight

[Al manah]

and loans will have to be repaid.

How many countries ceased to exist after the declaration of default?

[former soldier]

and loans will have to be repaid.

How many countries ceased to exist after the declaration of default?

Podlyak has a positive result but domination and equality will have to be excluded from the dream.

[rocket757]

The obvious, and which of the probable turns out to be real, time will tell.

[Sedov]

Bingo. The correct answer is 2. Well done, Misha. Sit down)

[Zaurbek]

that in case of victory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Ukrainian statehood will be preserved. Moreover, Ukraine will take a dominant position in the region
1. A question for experts: what will be the losses of 404 after the "victory over the Russian Federation"?
2. What will be the debts 404 by now?
3. What will happen to the infrastructure 404?
4. How will 404 become dominant with all this baggage?!

I can imagine that 404 will be pumped up with resources, but the only task then is war No. 2 with the Russian Federation for further intervention. But even here the question arises of the price for the 404 and its population. There will be no one to celebrate the victory.

[Fitter65]

Ukraine will be able to have an extremely efficient and modernized army.

really a giant of thought. Who is comrade Dyatlov sponsoring you, who is arming, feeding and financing? As soon as the collectors come and everything is over, this "extremely effective", and apparently, debt collectors will soon appear ...

[former soldier]

Podolyak noted that if the Armed Forces of Ukraine win, Ukrainian statehood will be preserved. Moreover, Ukraine will take a dominant position in the region and acquire very clear partnership relations based on equal rights with the countries of Western Europe.

This Podlyatsky version of the dominant position of Ukraine in the region and equal partnerships with the countries of Western Europe will never happen. For even without a war, without loans, she could not live normally, getting into a big debt hole. And such a way of existence as a seal on the forehead.
Moreover, there is a competitor in the face of Poland with the same dreams.

Podolyak does not consider the remaining two options for the further development of events to be positive. In the event of a defeat in an armed conflict, Ukraine, according to the adviser to the head of Zelensky's office, will cease to exist as a state within a few years.

Vice versa. This will be the best and positive option both for the inhabitants of the territory of Ukraine and for its neighbors and Europe too.

[bravo77]

and now the question

Why does the EU have a victorious Ukraine if Russia goes rogue?
i.e. get a second Poland, even more arrogant
screaming "we shed blood for you"

and against this background, the Russian Federation in the flame of a citizen, China is taking Siberia

fuck them chaos for the sake of troublemakers

[Cheerock]

Quote: And Us Rat

Quote: credo

at least one country in the world that was able to rise in agriculture

Argentina, on beef. But for 100 years they have been going to dominate the meat market.

Nine defaults in 20 years - awesome "rose"

[Sergey39]

Back in 2014, the Ukrainians cut down the branch on which their statehood rested. And, current events have gone to confirm this fact. "Territory Ukraine" will cease to exist within the boundaries of Lenin-Stalin.

[Wolfskin1993]

Don't worry about the dead! The doctor said to the morgue, so to the Morgue!!!