Why is the West so worried about cluster munitions?

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So, the United States made a difficult decision to transfer cluster munitions to Ukraine. Motivation just pumps up - until they set up an additional release of 155-mm artillery shells, the allies will have to be content with cluster ones.

Why is the West so worried about cluster munitions?

There was a groan on our TV and even on the Internet about how bad this is. And how bad? No, any transfer of modern weapons to our enemies is bad. No need to explain why. So both cluster munitions and conventional artillery shells - this does not bring anything good from the start.



What are cluster munitions


In fact, design bureaus are not an innovation; our dushmans were processed with them back in Afghanistan. And, it should be noted, it is very effective in mountainous terrain. weapon.

The answer is actually very simple and lies on the surface. But for this you just need to take any cluster munition and disassemble it.


Cluster munition, simply put, is a bomb or projectile containing several smaller bombs or projectiles. They are called submunitions. A bomb or launcher is different from the usual ones, but not much.


The main thing is that design bureaus are very dangerous precisely because of their "matryoshka". Yes. They look like nesting dolls, because under the shell they contain a lot of unpleasant things. The most terrible by the results of the application are cluster bombs. The empty form of the bomb can be filled with anything: fragmentation shells, anti-personnel and anti-tank mines, you can combine different types.


And the use of such munitions in civilian areas entails heavy losses among civilians, since an unexploded or unexploded submunition becomes like a mine. It is not easy to extract it, usually it explodes when you try to touch it. That is why in the USA cluster submunitions are painted in terribly bright "acid" colors. Which, it seems, should scare away civilians, but, as the practice of Yugoslavia and Afghanistan has shown, they attract the attention of children very well.

But from the point of view of the military, the use of design bureaus is very effective. This is a universal ammunition that covers a very decent area with its elements, hitting both manpower and equipment. Plus, you can cause damage to infrastructure facilities.

And it’s easy to use: from a conventional bomber or fighter capable of carrying such ammunition. Bombs fly in a compartment or on an external sling, and after being dropped, they do not fly vertically down, but with the help of a stabilizing parachute, they practically fly horizontally for some time. And while the horizontal flight lasts, cartridges with ammunition start from the hull.


Given that the fall speed of such a bomb is slowed down by a stabilizing parachute, quite decent accuracy is achieved. Cassettes shoot ammunition that falls where it is needed. Or almost anywhere.


Each mine thrown from a cluster bomb also has a parachute and, as a rule, explodes just above the ground. Due to this, the area of ​​\u3b\u5bdamage is seriously increased. And what does not explode (detonator defects affect), then these XNUMX-XNUMX% become a kind of anti-personnel mines.

In general, it is understandable why attempts were made from time to time to ban design bureaus in the world, precisely because these ammunition perfectly destroyed the civilian population, precisely because they worked on the squares.

1980, then 2008. But until 2013, the Convention, which prohibited the accumulation, transfer and use of CBs, was signed by 113 countries, and even fewer ratified them - 84. And the most interesting thing is that there were countries that did not develop or produce them. Those who believed that this was a completely normal and useful weapon (USA, China, Russia, India, Brazil, Pakistan, South Korea, Turkey, Ukraine, Iran, Iraq) did not sign this Convention.

In general, cluster bombs are subject to the general restrictions imposed on weapons of indiscriminate action: a ban on their use in densely populated areas. This is a customary rule that is binding on all states, regardless of their membership in the Convention on Cluster Munitions. It is clear that no one is particularly eager to fulfill this norm, if only because in today's world the conduct of war is generally devoid of the slightest chivalry. There is just a war going on, and as one of our former experts said, "These civilians always get in the way under the tracks."

Therefore, Korea and Vietnam were absolutely calmly thrown with cluster bombs in the last century, and therefore design bureaus are used in the current one. However, work on the modernization of design bureaus is underway in all producing countries, and these works are mainly aimed precisely at reducing the danger of design bureaus for the civilian population. Much is being done in terms of equipping design bureaus with homing mines that would hit strictly defined targets. Plus, work on small-sized self-liquidators that could neutralize ammunition after the standard detonator failed.

So why is there so much talk about KB?


It seems that there was no such hype in the West when shells for howitzers, MLRS, and tactical Haimars were handed over. What's the matter?

The point is in a very simple component: in those same 3-5% of submunitions that will not explode in normal mode. Yes, they are very difficult to disarm, but this is a very good way to identify ammunition. And, accordingly, one of the components of the proxy war.


Since none of the leading world powers is going to abandon the design bureau, and it is difficult for smaller countries to use design bureaus, since rather expensive ammunition requires expensive carriers such as aircraft or large-caliber MLRS.

And the place of the Design Bureau in the information war is quite clear and understandable. The bomb was dropped, the elements scattered, exploded. Part fell to the ground. And here the work of information specialists begins: information is collected about the use of KB, photo and video evidence, accusations of the opposite side about the use of KB against the civilian population begin.


The ricochet also affects the manufacturer of the design bureau. Yes, an artillery shell, Rocket MLRS, mines - there is very little demand for them. They are very poorly identified after they have done their job.

Even with the MLRS, it’s a little easier, the motor parts remain there, especially for large-caliber Smerch and Hurricane types. We are simply silent about tactical missiles of the Tochka U type, there is a complete discrediting of the party that used this product. But an unexploded cluster munition is unpleasant.

First of all, because it is very easy to identify. And it is very easy to tell where and when it was made.


It is clear that the United States will not be responsible for where the Ukrainians will gouge with a cluster bomb. They, in fact, do not care deeply about this, whether Russian military or civilians die. Here the question is different.

Reproaches and "hot investigations" are a normal element of the American political system. The parties are at war with each other without violating certain corridors. But yelling that somewhere civilians are dying from American design bureaus is not considered a betrayal. Indeed, it is not a representative of the ruling party who is directly responsible for the fact that someone, say, on the territory of Ukraine, dropped cluster bombs on a residential area.

They don't give a damn about it in the US. But to use such things for the benefit of the interests of your gang in order to hurt the other gang is normal. There, they use more dirty tricks, and the closer to the elections, the less picky both the Democrats and the Republicans become.

So it's more than simple: while US-made cluster munitions are killing people all over the world, nobody in the States itself cares. Until it's time to capitalize on it. That's when someone will not care about what is happening. But not before.

Therefore, today the Western media indicate their position on this matter. So that later, when the corresponding cassettes are shown to the whole world, along with the corpses of obviously non-military ones, to put forward certain accusations against someone. Guilty, you understand, must be.

But until that moment, design bureaus will be supplied to Kyiv. And the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will send them to our side. And ours, respectively, to answer the same.


We have the 9M55K1, an excellent 9N142 cluster warhead (KG) rocket with self-aiming warheads (SPBE) for the Smerch/Tornado-S MLRS. The cassette warhead carries 5 Motiv-3M SPBEs (9N349), equipped with dual-band infrared coordinators, looking for a target at an angle of 30 °. Each of them is capable of penetrating 30 mm armor at an angle of 100 ° from a height of 70 meters. Perfectly suited for operations against accumulations of military equipment.

There are also bombs like RBC-500U with PTAB-1M, also for destruction tanks and other armored vehicles, both on the march and in disguise in parking lots. This cassette contains 268 PTAB-1M combat elements with armor penetration up to 200 mm. And the improved RBC-500U PTAB has a mass of 520 kg, and carries 352 cumulative elements.

There are, in general, than welcome goodness.

That the US today decided to share part of its XNUMX million cluster munition arsenal is basically a problem for the US going forward. How the Ukrainian military will use the design bureaus transferred to them is a question in another direction.

In fact, one should not expect miraculous results, it is clear that the state aviation The Armed Forces of Ukraine simply will not make it possible to use design bureaus in large quantities from aircraft, therefore, most likely, they will bring artillery shells.

This is a separate topic, fortunately, there are now enough barrels of NATO calibers in Ukraine. According to the magazine owned by the US Department of Defense, which is called "Armor", we are talking about the supply of 155-millimeter caliber shells. Each such artillery shell contains 88 submunitions, and each submunition, in turn, has an expelling charge and a charge of fragments, the radius of which is about 10 meters.

In other words, depending on the dispersion, one such cluster projectile can mow down with fragments the territory of 3-4 football fields. Very unpleasant for the front line, deadly for residential development, especially if the explosion occurred at a height of 15-25 meters.

It is possible that 105-mm shells will also be supplied. They have fewer combat elements, but otherwise they are almost as good as their older comrades.

Will these deliveries become a big problem for the Russian troops? We'll see. Not everything that comes from the other side of the world becomes a "wonder weapon".
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  1. +35
    11 July 2023 05: 53
    The Russian Armed Forces need to more actively use volumetric detonating ammunition and needle charges, all rules and decorum are discarded.
    1. 0
      11 July 2023 06: 42
      Were there rules, restrictions in wars?
      In finance, there were spheres of influence.
      And the war - hehe.
      Roma A is losing food supply.
      It was mined and destroyed.
    2. +6
      11 July 2023 06: 57
      Quote from Silver99
      The Russian Armed Forces need to more actively use volumetric detonating ammunition and needle charges

      In order to make such "active" statements, it is necessary to understand how such ammunition works! Some comrades, it seems, do not understand! For example, "needle" ammunition ("flechette" shrapnel) has significantly decreased in effectiveness after the mass equipping of troops with bulletproof vests and their development! (Creation of equipment, as "complexes"!) But they will pose a particular danger against the civilian population! Many ODB (volume-detonating ammunition), descending on parachutes, work above the ground ("almost" on the ground) and are not able to penetrate the "strong" buildings of the industrial zone, high-rise buildings, converted into strongholds of defense! "Penetrating" ODB (TBB) with strong casings and programmable fuses are needed... I'm not sure that there is an abundance of such ammunition in the arsenal of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation... In turn, cluster bombs (I once read that it is "more correct": bomb cassettes!) and, very especially, cluster artillery shells, NURS will be very "useful" to Russian troops in repelling "counter-offensives" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in their current "form"!
      1. +14
        11 July 2023 08: 01
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        For example, "needle" ammunition ("flashette" shrapnel) has dropped significantly in effectiveness after the massive equipping of troops with body armor

        Well, let's say the armor will protect the chest. But there's also the face, arms, legs. If they're stuffed with needles, it'll be a real pain. And it's a bit heavy to carry a full knight's armor.
        1. +6
          11 July 2023 09: 38
          It is simply obvious that those who write this way believe that the head, arms, legs are not very important parts of the body without which you can live anyway (although it is doubtful about living without a head) or simply have regeneration ala your fairy-tale character Dead Pool.
          1. +5
            11 July 2023 09: 45
            Quote from AdAstra
            not very important parts of the body without which you can already live (although it is doubtful about living without a head)

            Correct. If there is no head, then what will we eat in?
            wassat
            1. +4
              11 July 2023 11: 41
              Yes, and how to listen to commands? Where to depict "Look dashing and silly"?
        2. +5
          11 July 2023 13: 03
          On Tvideo, both our soldiers and civilians have long been shown with arrow-shaped or maybe needle-shaped striking elements. But, it seems that Ukraine has already run out of RS for MLRS with such a filling or is running out. Now the Americans. Looks like we need to declare war. Cease all trade through or from Ukraine and any goods destined for Ukraine must be declared spoils of war and either destroyed or confiscated. Diplomatic missions in Ukraine should not be guaranteed security.
      2. +1
        11 July 2023 11: 18
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        cluster bombs (I once read that it is "more correct": bomb clusters!) and, very especially, cluster artillery shells, NURSs will be very "useful" to Russian troops in repelling "counter attacks" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the current "form"

        Yes, "cluster bombs" are correctly called RBC. And once again, yes, that the effectiveness of their use is many times effective when used against an advancing (open) enemy. But the use of anti-tank weapons is very effective everywhere, and especially for a group target.
      3. +3
        11 July 2023 11: 47
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Many ODB (volumetric detonating ammunition), descending on parachutes, work above the ground ("almost" on the ground) and are not able to penetrate the "strong" buildings of the industrial zone, high-rise buildings turned into strongholds of defense!

        What are you kind about?
        The striking element of a volumetric detonating ammunition is a pressure drop.
        1. +2
          11 July 2023 17: 05
          Quote: APASUS
          The striking element of a volumetric detonating ammunition is a pressure drop.

          Yes. And also the "leakage" of the aerosol mixture into leaky shelters (dugouts) and terrain folds (trenches) with subsequent detonation there.
          1. -1
            11 July 2023 23: 19
            leakage" of the aerosol mixture into leaky shelters

            They have another very unpleasant, but effective effect - burning out all the oxygen in the area ...
            1. 0
              13 July 2023 00: 20
              ### burning all the oxygen in the area

              Tale from Lenin's room. At all.
      4. 0
        13 July 2023 00: 16
        Bomb cassettes and cassette bombs are different things. At all.
    3. +4
      11 July 2023 14: 12
      In fact, as they say, "every vegetable has its time." Each type of ammunition is designed to destroy a specific target. It makes little sense to pour the same needles on a protected enemy.
      Now about cluster weapons: during a database attack, such weapons are no more dangerous for the civilian population (accidentally found themselves in the zone of the database) than many other things. For an artillery HE shell, or even more so for an HE bomb, fragments can hit a few hundred meters from the explosion. And here after a DB is a problem.
      And the author was also modest about our cluster munitions. Among them there are mines, and concrete-piercing, and HE (the same RBC-500 AO-2,5 RT or RBC-500 SHOAB-0,5), and incendiary. Apply which of these or not - is unknown.
    4. -1
      11 July 2023 23: 13
      We need to come up with something to use Sunlight ammunition as glide bombs
      1. +1
        12 July 2023 00: 24
        Quote: Andrey “andrewTSO” D
        We need to come up with something to use Sunlight ammunition as glide bombs

        Why fence the garden, if there are volumetric - detonating bombs?
    5. +1
      12 July 2023 18: 52
      And finally, it's time to use our most terrible weapon - a rubber bomb!
  2. +11
    11 July 2023 06: 08
    Any modern weapon delivered to the Ukronazis is a problem: it is necessary to answer, at least in a mirror way.
  3. +15
    11 July 2023 06: 35
    It's not even about what the purely military results of using cluster munitions will be. What's worrying is that another, seemingly serious barrier to escalation has been knocked down. How will it all end? With chemistry? Biology? Nuclear weapons? There's no biology or nuclear physics left in the world, and chemistry is easy as pie. Buy industrial chlorine cylinders on the world market, which have plenty of legitimate purposes, and then wait for the right wind and turn off the valves. Just like the Germans did in World War I. Well, what percentage of the military have a gas mask bag? And of those who do, how many have a gas mask and not [grenades, magazines, sandwiches, other ________(insert)]. Of the available gas masks, how many are not torn, are the lenses not cracked, and in general are they not expired? Another thing is that after the first use of chemicals, everyone who should have will immediately worry about the availability and serviceability of gas masks and OZK, but it will not be easier for those who have already been hit.
    1. 0
      13 July 2023 00: 23
      OZK against chlorine is not needed. By the way, it has already flashed that they used chloropicrin.
  4. +17
    11 July 2023 06: 37
    again these howls about the transition of the next lines ... "it is necessary, it is necessary, it is necessary ...!" but in fact - zilch! no sovereignty, no one allowed to answer in a serious way :(
  5. +10
    11 July 2023 06: 46
    here comes to mind an old tale - a landowner had two serfs in a distant village, one picked mushrooms and berries for him and sent them to him, the second was more into flattery and false praise (he hoped that the master would take him to the capital city) ... and because of this, the serfs quarreled among themselves, although they were even distant relatives to each other ... and a fight began between the serfs, the owner found out, but he was bored (from a well-fed, carefree life) - and instead of separating the serfs, he sent his old housekeeper to them, with an order - tell them to fight however they like (even to the death), but that they must continue to send me mushrooms and berries!
  6. 0
    11 July 2023 06: 59
    In fact, design bureaus are not an innovation; our dushmans were processed with them back in Afghanistan.

    In fact, the Japanese in WWII actively used the San-shiki type 91. The principle is the same. They were intended for long-range air defense of ships, but were extremely effective against uncovered infantry and equipment.
    1. +1
      11 July 2023 08: 08
      Well, actually, even before WWII, there was a design bureau in the USSR that was definitely being developed
      1. +6
        11 July 2023 12: 05
        Quote from Von_Schmidt
        Well, actually, even before WWII, there was a design bureau in the USSR that was definitely being developed

        Rotational dispersive bombs (RRAB) of various types. They are also "Molotov's bread basket" or "Molotov's breadbasket". smile
  7. +6
    11 July 2023 07: 28
    in those same 3-5% of submunitions that will not explode in normal mode
    In the United States, experts are already talking about about 14%. ammunition was not serviced for a long time while in storage. This means that the risk increases almost three times.
    1. 0
      13 July 2023 00: 28
      The submunition has a cheaper and more primitive detonator, and it is also deliberately less sensitive. And hence the inconsistency and lack of a self-liquidator... It is 4 times more effective in terms of area than an HE shell, but 5 times more expensive.

      The worst - high-explosive action - none. Not universal as OF.
  8. -8
    11 July 2023 08: 07
    It's time for us to use chemistry, stop howling, the RHBZ troops are one of the largest in the world, resume production and poison cockroaches!
  9. +2
    11 July 2023 08: 07
    Roman, thanks for the article. Intelligibly, deeply, with knowledge of the matter ... Thank you.
    There used to be a transmission on the box "International Panorama". I remember that during the Vietnam War in the early 70s, they showed this American cluster bomb, device, lethality, etc. I read the article and remembered.
  10. +7
    11 July 2023 08: 45
    I need to decide Ukrainians are they brothers to us or not brothers. And after that decide how to respond to them: not to brothers with the same thing, or maybe with something more serious, or if they are brothers to us, pity them and respond somehow half-heartedly to the unreasonable, as is happening now.
    I cannot understand why the whole range of conventional weapons is not used? Do we feel sorry for our soldiers?
  11. +2
    11 July 2023 08: 51
    That's right - the masks have been dropped! And we need to respond appropriately. And finally, START getting wet seriously ... There are enough bombs for carpet bombing that they rust in warehouses.
  12. BAI
    +1
    11 July 2023 08: 59
    And ours, respectively, to answer the same.

    But the United States does not care about this in principle. And the West too. From the word COMPLETELY. Until it flies into their territory
  13. TIR
    +10
    11 July 2023 09: 39
    Our flawed "experts" on talk shows on this event emphasize that this is a type of US agony, this is a US political failure, they do not explode in 30% of cases, etc. But no one said that these ammunition are effective and will take the lives of our soldiers! Imagine how many lives such a munition will take if it opens above our trenches and submunitions begin to explode in the air above our trenches! Fox holes won't help
    1. 0
      13 July 2023 00: 37
      Sub power supplies are torn only on the ground. They have a primitive impact fuse. Self-aiming - this is anti-tank, not anti-personnel.
  14. +1
    11 July 2023 10: 28
    The use of cluster munitions lightens the defense. They are much more dangerous to troops in the field than in the trenches.
  15. +1
    11 July 2023 12: 52
    I remember that in the SAR all sorts of defenders raised a howl when the Aerospace Forces began to use all sorts of specialized ammunition.
  16. +2
    11 July 2023 14: 10
    Why not declare War on Ukraine already, since the whole West is standing up for it and is not shy about supplying any weapons. No need to play with them when a Russian person dies.
    1. 0
      11 July 2023 20: 27
      You're talking apolitically, comrade. First you need to resolve the issue of real estate, children over the hill, poor African countries without grain. While he's like that, the issues are not resolved.
  17. +6
    11 July 2023 14: 17
    a strange situation, the Anglo-Saxons can cross red lines, they can supply design bureaus, citing the fact that the hohols have nothing left to defend themselves with, then they will say that they need to supply TNW, since they have already run out of design bureaus, and the Kremlin strategist cannot cross the line and use TNW, you see, he is conducting a SVO, and not fighting, he has set up his own flags and now he sits in the corner and quietly whines that everyone is deceiving him, ugh...
  18. +1
    11 July 2023 15: 59
    I really hope that our leadership will not be ashamed to respond by throwing the same ammunition in response and is actively preparing for this.
  19. +8
    11 July 2023 16: 24
    Why is the West so worried about cluster munitions?

    In my opinion, it is not they who are worried - it is we who should be worried. That is the first thing. Well, and secondly... . And secondly, everything will be the same as in the deliveries of all NATO weapons. Nothing will change... . As long as our country is led by an acting, or to be more precise, not acting Supreme Commander. That's all. And all the other maxims, like non-working officials, shortcomings in the work of the State Duma, bad officials - this is from the "evil one". The system needs to be changed, and the person who is the foundation of this system. Only then will their own planes fly, like in the USSR, and soldiers will not be robbed in the war, and military equipment will not be sold, and property will not be sold through shell companies, and much more...! sad
  20. +3
    11 July 2023 16: 27
    In fact, cluster munitions have already been used by both sides and quite actively. There are no direct bans on their use in combat. Just recently, they showed videos of a hail strike, with incendiary warheads. Earlier, OURS used lighters on Azov steel. So these were cluster munitions. Ukrainians, they used Tochkas with a cassette warhead, as far as I remember, and Uragans too.
    Of course, any supplies for non-brothers do not bring anything good, but it’s not worth blowing up hysterics to the skies, especially since there are no levers to stop them.
    1. +2
      11 July 2023 17: 11
      Quote: avdkrd
      In general, cluster munitions have already been used by both sides and very actively. There are no direct prohibitions on their use in hostilities.

      I also do not understand the risen, so loud media noise.
      Quote: avdkrd
      More recently, rollers with a hail strike, with incendiary warheads, were played.

      Quote: avdkrd
      Ukrainians used Points with cassette warheads, as far as I remember, Hurricanes are the same.

      Already since 2014, until they probably ran out.
      Quote: avdkrd
      Of course, any supplies for non-brothers do not bring anything good, but it’s not worth blowing up hysterics to the skies, especially since there are no levers to stop them.

      What are we trying to disguise, "chat"?
    2. 0
      13 July 2023 00: 41
      Incendiary - not cassette. They do not have a sub power supply with their own fuse.
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  22. -1
    11 July 2023 18: 01
    our media showed something similar several times - massive blows of fireballs at Azovstal, at Artemyevsk, mammoth bugs or cassettes on armored vehicles.

    there was no outrage, on the contrary, how beautiful they say ...
  23. +1
    11 July 2023 19: 51
    There is also the question if these ammunition explode on the territory of the enemy, they will then scatter over the territories where people live. For example Lviv or Kharkiv. It is best to finish off the Ukrainian airfields, hit their runways and figure out where they are flying with missiles from.
    The fight in the air defense of Ukraine also needs to be waged.
    Well, what do they write there, the plant is already standing for the production of equipment, it must also be destroyed.
  24. 0
    11 July 2023 20: 21
    Well, that's it! There will be nothing left of Shebekino. And of other cities of the DLNR. And which of the Ukrainian Armed Forces would spend such goods on Russian troops? Especially since they can hide. But civilians have nowhere to go.

    And if the Bandar-logs also get a design bureau in the form of an aerial bomb, then they will simply be obliged to use it on Crimea! Even at the cost of the death of the plane and the pilot.
  25. -1
    11 July 2023 22: 17
    The next stage is chemical weapons, and we destroyed it, here's your grandmother and St. George's day.
  26. -1
    12 July 2023 18: 44
    oh how good would these ammunition be against amers in Afghanistan
    applause for the guarantor that he chose the right moment for all this

    maybe they are really his partners?
  27. -1
    12 July 2023 18: 46
    Quote: avdkrd
    In fact, cluster munitions have already been used by both sides and quite actively. There are no direct bans on their use in combat. Just recently, they showed videos of a hail strike, with incendiary warheads. Earlier, OURS used lighters on Azov steel. So these were cluster munitions. Ukrainians, they used Tochkas with a cassette warhead, as far as I remember, and Uragans too.
    Of course, any supplies for non-brothers do not bring anything good, but it’s not worth blowing up hysterics to the skies, especially since there are no levers to stop them.


    here we are talking about the fact that this ammunition is supplied by humane elves
    knowing that the peacekeeper will lie down
  28. 0
    12 July 2023 19: 18
    "caliber 155 millimeters. Each such artillery shell contains 88 submunitions, and each submunition, in turn, has an expelling charge and a charge of fragments, the radius of destruction of which is about 10 meters.
    there is an opinion that this is "a little exaggerated" ....
    if NATO and the Uroreich had such shells, they swept us away in a couple of weeks
    if they didn’t invent anything directly, or rather didn’t betray, then this is M483A1 (64 × M42 / 24 × M46) 17 km or M864 (48 × M42 / 24 × M46) 30 km
    Both types of submunitions are identical in external dimensions, although the wall of the M46 is heavier and thicker than that of the M42. On the inner wall of the M42 submunition there are grooves to enhance the fragmentation action; M46 submunitions do not have such rifling. Both types of DPICM are 82,55 mm long. The M42 weighs 208g and the M46 weighs 213g. The M42 and M46 submunitions do not have self-destruct mechanisms.

    very unpleasant, but clearly not 3-4 football fields and there is no possibility of detonation at a height because the fuse is of impact action
    1. 0
      13 July 2023 00: 44
      ###submunition, in turn, has an expelling charge and a charge of fragments

      The cassette PSU has a vyshibnaya. The sub PSU has only an explosive charge.
  29. 0
    13 July 2023 00: 17
    The bulk of weapons to Ukraine goes by train, unloading a train car is much longer than the flight time of a rocket.
  30. 0
    16 July 2023 15: 18
    Skomorokhov, didn’t you calculate the percentage of cips and collaborators on comments to your articles?
  31. 0
    16 July 2023 20: 46
    Quote from Silver99
    The Russian Armed Forces need to more actively use volumetric detonating ammunition and needle charges, all rules and decorum are discarded.

    You may ask: what the hell do we care about these very rules and decency.
  32. 0
    16 July 2023 20: 50
    Quote from shikin
    In fact, as they say, "every vegetable has its time." Each type of ammunition is designed to destroy a specific target. It makes little sense to pour the same needles on a protected enemy.
    Now about cluster weapons: during a database attack, such weapons are no more dangerous for the civilian population (accidentally found themselves in the zone of the database) than many other things. For an artillery HE shell, or even more so for an HE bomb, fragments can hit a few hundred meters from the explosion. And here after a DB is a problem.
    And the author was also modest about our cluster munitions. Among them there are mines, and concrete-piercing, and HE (the same RBC-500 AO-2,5 RT or RBC-500 SHOAB-0,5), and incendiary. Apply which of these or not - is unknown.

    Why do you need to know this? For what? BZ completed and period. Stop making yourself out to be gentlemen of white officers.