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It was a matter of time: interned nationalists returned to Kyiv

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It was a matter of time: interned nationalists returned to Kyiv



Erdogan's game


Radical solutions are always simple and seem to be the most effective. Especially for those who sit on a warm sofa several thousand kilometers from the front line in Ukraine. This concerns, first of all, the return to Kyiv of the already forgotten commanders of the banned Azov regiment from Turkey.

Many commentators compare the situation with the destruction of the Russian Su-24 in Syria since 2015 - the same “shot in the back” from the Turkish side. Now we are seeing another shot from Erdogan. Not the first and far from the last. We also observe the fact that the Russian leadership has not reacted to the direct violation of the agreements of the autumn of last year.

Recall that the interned "Azov" and the Marines were supposed to stay in formally neutral Turkey until the end of the special operation. But on July 8, Lieutenant Colonel Denis "Redis" Prokopenko, Captain Svyatoslav "Kalina" Palamar, Major Oleg "Apis" Khomenko and Colonel Denis Shlega went to Ukraine on board the Czech Air Force, together with Zelensky's team. All four belong to the top of the nationalist regiment "Azov" (banned in Russia). Formally, the captain of the 3rd rank (major) Sergei "Volyn" Volynsky can be considered separately - he is listed in the Marine Corps of the Ukrainian Navy. But it's formal. In fact, Volynsky's methods and views were no different from those of the Nazis. Now the leaders of the house and everyone are waiting for a response from Russia.

To begin with, it is worth understanding that the return of the internees from Turkey was only a matter of time. Erdogan's words and promises have to be treated with a great deal of skepticism, to say the least. This is well understood in the Kremlin, and sooner or later they expected something similar from the Turkish leader. Who, by the way, was re-elected for another presidential term not without the support of Russia. Recall the "grain deal", which provided a considerable inflow of currency into the country and jobs. And, of course, there are many international bonuses for Erdogan's pride.

Russia, in turn, the agreement was completely unprofitable. But Moscow, most likely, will not even respond with a note of protest to Ankara's next attack. Regarding the prospects for extending the "grain agreement" on the same terms, there is also no clarity - anything can happen on July 17. Up to a prolongation for a couple of years, as the Turkish leader fantasizes.

In general, the Russian leadership, realizing all the potential risks, considers the return of internees as another petty prank by Erdogan. With a few caveats, but a prank. Simply because among the NATO opponents, it is generally impossible to speak with anyone in a substantive manner. Not to talk with Ursula and Duda.


It is not easy for the Turkish leader to sit on two chairs - this is generally an extremely uncomfortable position.

On the one hand, comrades in the North Atlantic bloc demand proof of loyalty and refutation of the pro-Russian position. Erdogan's stubbornness alone with Sweden's entry into NATO is worth something.

On the other hand, upsetting relations with the Kremlin is also irrational - Turkey traditionally endures a lot of bonuses from cooperation.

As a result, Erdogan chose the least annoying option for Russia to extradite the Nazis to Zelensky. The least annoying, according to the Turkish president, of course. Here it is necessary to operate with the concepts of “but it could have done even worse”. Such is the price of the special operation and the liberation of the people of Donbass – with many partners we are forced to choose between “bad” and “tolerable”. Now it's been tolerable.

Unfortunately, the world of politics does not communicate the true terms of most deals and agreements, especially between opposing sides. But we can say with a high degree of certainty that Turkey has chosen the smallest of the entire arsenal of handouts for Zelensky. More precisely, except for the five Nazis from Ankara, the leader of the Kyiv regime did not take anything at all.

Erdogan announced the potential for Ukraine to join NATO and signed several papers on "autonomous systems, especially UAVs, and joint projects in the field of research, development, production and maintenance of engines." We are talking about the construction of the Baykar plant in Ukraine and the installation of Motor Sich aircraft engines on Turkish Drones.

Will this seriously enhance the combat capabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? No. And if it can, then in a very distant future. The very idea of ​​building a large aircraft factory in a country that is bombarded with missiles up and down looks like a mockery of Zelensky.

Nor did the President receive the much-desired T-155 howitzers, which could increase pressure on Russian troops. The compensation was five Nazi officers - Zelensky's main victory in Turkey.

Zelensky's game


The head of the Kyiv regime should be flattered - he is the first, and not Vladimir Putin, to visit the Turkish president after being re-elected. Erdogan invited the Russian leader a little later. There are plans to discuss the exchange of prisoners of war and the extension of the "grain deal". Rudeness Rejepa does not take, but do not forget about the plight of sitting on two chairs. Duda is much more comfortable in Poland, but he has no other options in principle.

It is flattering for Zelensky to return to Kyiv with interned officers. Whatever one may say, this is a significant victory on the propaganda front. History with Azov banned in Russia is so hyped that any even the most insignificant victories will receive a huge response.

Well-groomed and fattened on Turkish grubs "Volyn" and Palamar are now most welcome. The second month of the Ukrainian offensive is underway, but there are no serious achievements and are not expected. To raise the morale of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Zelensky first rolled onto Snake Island, and now he has returned five internees. It would be better if five howitzers with ammunition were more useful for the front.

The main question is whether, apart from propaganda, there will be some military benefit from the Nazi leaders in Ukraine? Still, five officers with combat experience were returned.

In line with the current offensive - the minimum. Most of the military command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine already has much more experience. "Redis" with the company was taken in May last year, they went to Turkey in September, and returned to Ukraine in July 2023. The tactics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already changed several times, often beyond recognition. These "Turkish inmates" will learn from the acting officers of the Ukrainian formations, and not vice versa. Some of the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, if they managed to survive, recently celebrated 500 days of the special operation.

Do not forget about the shameful surrender, pleas for "extraction", as well as the experience of "Volyn" in cleaning up areas with a shovel and a broom. Such competencies, to put it mildly, do not paint opinion leaders in the military environment. A common rhetorical question - where were Palamar and Prokopenko when the rest fought for the "fortress Bakhmut"?


Prokopenko promised to "say a word at the front"

A few more observations.

Zelensky met the "heroes" of Mariupol without a single flag and symbol of the Azov regiment. The terrorist organization is banned in Russia, but not in Ukraine. A new trend or the office of the president is ashamed of the "Wolf Hook"?

For example, in Turkey, Zelensky was forbidden to hang Nazi rags, but in Lviv, at the presentation of the internees, it is also empty. It's no joke, Lieutenant Colonel of the National Guard of Ukraine Prokopenko, a Nazi of the Nazis, stands in front of TV cameras in an indistinct shirt from a Turkish second-hand store. The situation looks like an absurdity, but it seems that certain steps have been taken in the denazification of Ukraine.
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 11 July 2023 06: 09
    +17
    Radical solutions are always simple and seem to be the most effective. Especially for those who sit on a warm sofa several thousand kilometers from the front line in Ukraine.
    Yeah, and the author apparently writes from a burning tank. And the meaning of the article is that everything is going according to plan, nothing terrible has happened. It was intended that way.
    1. Mari33
      Mari33 11 July 2023 07: 00
      +14
      Quote: parusnik
      And the meaning of the article, everything is going according to plan, nothing terrible happened. It was meant to be.

      Absolutely right. Everything goes according to plan. Putin has repeatedly confirmed this. The question is, everything that happens, is it done in the interests of the people and the Russian state? In my opinion, no. And it's TERRIBLE!
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 11 July 2023 09: 33
        +3
        Everything goes according to plan.
        Yeah, and the further it goes, the more it becomes clear that this is not the plan of the Russian Federation and not Putin. Too bad consequences.
        1. UAZ 452
          UAZ 452 11 July 2023 13: 50
          +3
          That's right - assessing the current results and the likely consequences of the NWO, the benefits and advantages are visible for everyone, even if for the same Ukraine it costs and will be very expensive, but they are visible. For everyone except Russia.
      2. Taimen
        Taimen 11 July 2023 11: 32
        +3
        The hucksters and the traders were once again "deceived". Or, more precisely, they were whacked heartily with a thick sausage on the lips. They wiped themselves off once again.
      3. ivan2022
        ivan2022 13 July 2023 11: 21
        0
        Quote from Mari33
        Quote: parusnik
        And the meaning of the article, everything is going according to plan, nothing terrible happened. It was meant to be.

        Absolutely right. Everything goes according to plan. Putin has repeatedly confirmed this. The question is, everything that happens, is it done in the interests of the people and the Russian state? In my opinion, no. And it's TERRIBLE!

        It is terrible that the history of the people resembles Chukovsky's fairy tale "Cockroach" .....

        And the fact that "brotherhood" ........ . wanted for all this patient people, respectfully calling bandits with the words "authorities, serious men .. ".....

        Heh ... heh ... this is so common that all this normal person can throw up .....
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 11 July 2023 09: 58
      -8
      What terrible thing happened? Can these five replace a tank battalion or a mechanized brigade? No. Are they strategists like Napoleon or Rommel? No. They spent a year at the resort and are far behind the realities of today's war. I will say more, in "Navoz" all the warm places and fat pieces have already been divided and no one is going to give up theirs. So, it is not excluded, but most likely very soon, an exciting "jabot - viper" will begin, in the style of "a group of wolves of wolves or a pack of comrades")))
      1. Mishka78
        Mishka78 11 July 2023 10: 05
        +10
        Listen, well, it’s obvious that 5 people, even if they were Rommels, won’t make any weather at the front where a million people are fighting. The question is that this is another public political slap in the face. It does no direct damage. But indirectly - very even. The political consequences of such an unrequited insult are far worse than the direct harm.
      2. kor1vet1974
        kor1vet1974 11 July 2023 10: 32
        +11
        What terrible thing happened? Can these five replace a tank battalion or a mechanized brigade? No.
        It's just not a fic to whistle that punishment will overtake, they will answer for atrocities, etc. and so on. Can you whistle? So answer for your artistic whistle, and they also try to justify it, whistle. Ugh ... shame ...
      3. UAZ 452
        UAZ 452 11 July 2023 13: 44
        +8
        What terrible thing happened? Can these five replace a tank battalion or a mechanized brigade? No. Are they strategists like Napoleon or Rommel? No.

        What happened is that on the other side, every fighter after that story with the exchange of Medvedchuk for Azovtsev sincerely believes that in the event of captivity, injury, the country, its president will not abandon him, they will save him even in a seemingly hopeless situation, when the enemy announced to the whole world, that there will be a trial, a sentence, and most likely an execution, when the cages for an open trial are already welded. And this faith is worth much more than a dozen battalions and five heels of conditional Rommels. Well, our fighters see that 55 of them are being exchanged for 215 Ukrainians and one Medvedchuk, and this despite the fact that our APU had even then much more prisoners than 55, and simple arithmetic shows them how much a muddy Ukrainian oligarch is for the country ( and those who make decisions on behalf of the country - this is the country) and its president are more expensive than the soldiers of Russia. About the recent story with the death of a dozen and a half pilots, for which no one has answered and will not answer, because the slightly quarreling parties came to an agreement, and the flyers were written off as collateral damage and forgotten, I’m not saying - she didn’t add anything new to understanding the realities of our current country . Everyone, except for members of the Pink Pony Witnesses sect, already understands everything.
    3. nickname7
      nickname7 12 July 2023 20: 28
      0
      Recall that the interned "Azov" and the Marines were supposed to stay in formally neutral Turkey until the end of the special operation.

      The author writes incorrectly, immediately after the surrender of these criminals, the enemies of the state were to be brought to justice. But politicians, first of all, Russian politicians and murky personalities decided to benefit from the situation both for themselves, Lavrov and VVP positioned themselves to honestly comply with international rules, so VVP did not give instructions for the execution of the Azovites. Boris Johnson earned points in his country as a rescuer of British mercenaries, Abramovich was unblocked 7 yards in offshore Jersey. Further, Endogan uses the Azov people to their advantage. Why is only Endogan to blame for the author? Considering that the Nazis were in the hands of growing justice, why wasn't justice itself carried out by growing power?
  2. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 11 July 2023 06: 17
    +6
    "It's not easy for Erdogan to sit on two chairs ..." The fact that we ourselves invented that a NATO member could be a friendly country to us is most likely our mistake. Erdogan devoted all his activities to Turkey's entry into the EU. "Ine enemy, and not a friend. And so." When will we learn to see the world not the way we want. And the way it is. The world cannot be repainted at will. And in this respect, our people were and are wiser than politicians. They always said, "You cannot wash a black dog to white." Even with the help of modern dyes.
    1. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 11 July 2023 09: 44
      0
      The fact that we ourselves came up with that a NATO member can be a friendly country to us is most likely our mistake.
      Ever since the late 80s, I was struck by the manic intensity with which they convinced us that the West is a friend, and NATO is white and fluffy. After all, any kindergartner then knew that the enemy does not become a friend, no matter how he smiles at you. And they just smiled and that's it. Oh yes, our natural resources were scavenged for colored paper. Bewilderment and carried all these 30-odd years. And now, it turns out "they are not our friends." Probably in vain they stopped treating those who are not violently mad.
  3. Vladimir M
    Vladimir M 11 July 2023 07: 50
    +6
    ".... In fact, Volynsky's methods and views were no different from the Nazis...." Well, this is a bit exaggerated. I watched an interview with Volyn both in captivity and before captivity, he was quite sane. And the fact that he ended up on the other side is the "merit" primarily not of him, but of the Medvedchuks and the Surkovs. Even in captivity, they showed only Volhynia with a rag and a bucket, but there were no Kalin-Malins from Azov. Now, by and large, he has no choice, how he becomes an "Azovian".
  4. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 11 July 2023 08: 16
    +13
    The author is trying to put a good face on a bad game. The fact remains that the Azov people were not tried, there was no second Nuremberg, the Azov people were not punished for their crimes, as promised. In Lvov, the Nazi flags were not hung out once , is presented as a success of denazification. Erdogan, once again set the bandwagon, again success. "As for the mind, he is very bright: Thank God, we distinguish Forget-me-not from ..... (c) And you are trying to hang noodles.
  5. AdAstra
    AdAstra 11 July 2023 09: 43
    +10
    "But in Lviv, at the presentation of the internees, it is also empty. Is it a joke, Lieutenant Colonel of the National Guard of Ukraine Prokopenko, a Nazi from the Nazis, stands in front of television cameras in an indistinct shirt from a Turkish second-hand store. certain steps.
    No, dear author, joke is what you wrote, passing off your dreams as reality.
  6. Mishka78
    Mishka78 11 July 2023 09: 59
    +4
    Day after day, we demonstrate weakness to our "partners". They touch us every day. Like - but this is how we do it, what will they answer? And we don't answer. We draw idiotic lines that are washed off with a warm stream. "Let's flip the tanks." "We treat Turkey with understanding", that's how it is now, etc.
    Well, or at least some of our reactions are not reported to anyone (although I very much doubt that we react somehow). Hence, in the public field, the feeling of weakness and spinelessness of Russia as a state is growing stronger and stronger, and among the citizens of Russia such a feeling is growing stronger in relation to the permanent leader of the nation.
    In playing semitones in 2008-2014, he was very good, it must be admitted. But when it came to the slaughter in earnest, it turned out to be a bit liquid, unfortunately.
    1. kor1vet1974
      kor1vet1974 11 July 2023 10: 27
      +3
      Day after day, we demonstrate weakness to our "partners".
      With HMS, as they started to demonstrate, we can’t stop how to stop ..
  7. aglet
    aglet 11 July 2023 12: 20
    +4
    "It's flattering for Zelensky to return to Kyiv with interned officers. Whatever one may say, this is a significant victory on the propaganda front"
    understand at last? this is a spit in the face of Russia with two hands, both from the Sultan and from Zelensky
    "The plans are to discuss the exchange of prisoners of war and the extension of the" grain deal ". Rudeness Recep does not take, but do not forget about the hard fate of sitting on two chairs"
    and there is nothing serious about it - the Sultan regularly receives sweets from each of the chairs. especially, our chair tries
    "The very idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbbuilding a large aircraft factory in a country that is bombarded with missiles along and across"
    so far, this shooting has not particularly interfered with anything, and it will not interfere with the construction of the plant. more bayraktars for APU, good and different!
    "In general, the Russian leadership, understanding all the potential risks, considers the return of internees as another petty prank by Erdogan."
    it is Erdogan who considers all the statements of the Russian leadership as a petty prank that should not be paid attention to. yes, he has not paid any attention to them for a long time, even from tomatoes. no one pays attention to the weak. their role is to do what they say. Putin also understood this, and therefore does. and this grain deal, which is unprofitable for Russia, is being extended, and it will be extended, because it is beneficial for the Sultan
    1. nickname7
      nickname7 12 July 2023 20: 39
      0
      Rudeness Rejepa does not hold,

      Who is responsible for the fact that the Nazis, enemies of the state, were not executed if they were in the pre-trial detention center of the DPR? Is Endogan to blame? The GDP is to blame for allowing Abramovich to arrange agreements and trade in state interests.
  8. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 11 July 2023 13: 28
    +4
    What is happening in the country becomes clearer if we consider it a conditional corporation "Russia". In the 90s and subsequent years, there were as many stories as you like when a certain group laid a paw on the enterprise and its assets, and then was engaged in the withdrawal of profits, the purchase of luxury official cars for their loved ones at the expense of the enterprise, followed by their privatization at the "residual" ( near-zero) cost, all grain positions were occupied by relatives and friends ... And as for the development of production - no one knew how, and did not want to do it, hard workers were paid so much so that they would not just all run away at once, not forgetting to hang noodles on their ears about great prospects, for some it turned out so professionally that Ostap Ibragimovich with his New Vasyuks would be envious. They could share shares with workers and lower management - 10 rubles per person.
    It was important in this business scheme to have a zits-chairman, and even several public figures, on whom, after the inevitable collapse of the enterprise, shortages and other criminal charges can be hung. And the real beneficiaries, who most often preferred not to shine, calmly dissolved along with the acquired overwork.
    I would like to be wrong, but it seems that we are just on the eve of the last act of this drama - bankruptcy with an inventory of property and the discovery that the cash desk is empty, and creditors are looking for someone who will pay their debts. And employees and grass-roots managers have not only been forgiven for wage debts, but they are also required to pay debts on the basis that they are also shareholders, albeit VERY minority ones.
  9. Katya_Ivanova
    Katya_Ivanova 11 July 2023 13: 31
    -4
    and what is wrong? If they were so important and dangerous, they would have been shot while trying to escape. And if they were left alive, then they were going to return them anyway.
  10. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 11 July 2023 13: 49
    +2
    Quote: parusnik
    That's how it was intended.

    Exactly!
    The sexual impotence of power during the Prigozhin rebellion finally dispelled the illusion of strong power in Russia.
    Starting business jets, or the strange desire of government officials to travel to the country, in these difficult days, showed devotion to their Leader.
    Erdogan, to the last delaying decisions that are very painful for the fosterlings of Andarbek Dudayev (Surkov's maiden name), set off in all serious ways.
    A plant for the production of Bayraktars will be built in Ukroreikh, a theme park of the Russian executioner in Chechnya named after Dzhokhar Dudayev will be opened.
    Well, Erdogan is not afraid to "offend or deceive" a friend in Russia.
    It can be said that he even enjoys humiliating the authorities, and through it the people of Russia.
    Without even hinting, but directly, with his anti-Russian actions, saying: "You are merchants, not warriors, ready to give up national interests for tomatoes."
    Even the lazy and "sweet" ethnomosek Macron does not spy on the current government in Russia.
    He promises to put after the tanks and long-range missiles.
    The mustachioed purgon bearer, Peskov, in his style, passively brushes aside, condemning this decision.
    It’s good for him, in the event of the slightest threat, he can wind up in a cozy, and not by Parisian standards, huge former apartment, bought with a mortgage, at a ridiculous 1,5% through VTB France, Kostina.
    https://t.me/strelkovii/6002
  11. yuriy1863
    yuriy1863 11 July 2023 16: 11
    +1
    The situation is absurd

    The situation is more and more like a completely logical system of relations, characteristic of purely business interests. When it comes to income, morality rests, patriotism is absent, and "homeland" is determined by the location of the overseas house. Therefore, we may well continue to observe "difficult decisions" that humiliate our country. And it doesn't matter what it will be called: "deal", "initiative", "corridor", the main thing is that it humiliates the many millions of people of our Motherland.
    And as for the military value of the returned Azov people, one can recall an example from history, when a 16-year-old girl Jeanne d'Arc inspired the troops to victory with her mere presence. Heroes motivate and inspire.
    Therefore, I believe that it is time for our Motherland to stand up, straighten its mighty shoulders and react in principle to both "respected partners" and "friends."
    And if the powerful modern Russian "elite" does not understand this now, it will soon go down in history, making room for the elite of the people, the true one.
    1. nickname7
      nickname7 12 July 2023 21: 01
      0
      deal", "initiative", "corridor", the main thing is that this humiliates the many millions of people of our Motherland.

      The people do not have a representative through which the people could advance their interests. Therefore, the people are in flight among the contractual bourgeois and bureaucrats.
      Although, in theory, Russian officials should be for the people, but they have a conflict of interest, so they are afraid for money and children in NATO countries.
  12. yuriy1863
    yuriy1863 11 July 2023 16: 21
    +2
    Formally, the captain of the 3rd rank (major) Sergei "Volyn" Volynsky can be considered separately - he is listed in the Marine Corps of the Ukrainian Navy.

    Auto RU. Formally, in the Marine Corps, only the first two ranks are naval: sailor and senior sailor. The rest of the personnel have coastal ranks. So S. Volynsky today has the military rank of "major".
  13. runway-1
    runway-1 11 July 2023 19: 35
    +2
    It's no joke, Lieutenant Colonel of the National Guard of Ukraine Prokopenko, a Nazi of the Nazis, stands in front of the TV cameras in an indistinct shirt from a Turkish second-hand store. The situation looks like an absurdity, but it seems that certain steps have been taken in the denazification of Ukraine.
    Indeed, when one really wants to wishful thinking, but there is nothing to say in essence, such articles are written ...
  14. Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 11 July 2023 20: 45
    -2
    I completely agree - it's a matter of time. Indeed, in relation to ours, which were exchanged for THESE, no one set any conditions. They, I hope, have improved their health and have been fighting for a long time, beating the enemy. So why should we have hoped that THESE would continue to sit in Turkey? Year? Five years? Ten?
    And a conclusion for the future needs to be made - not for us on our sofas, but for those who are at the front. Do not take such tattooed and ideological prisoners, end immediately on the spot. I hope that ours have been doing this for a long time. Yes, tattooed ones are a valuable material for exchange - but it's very disgusting to watch them return ..............................