Military Review

The third coup. In the 91, the White House was defended by patriots or idiots?

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Maybe I'm wrong, but the consolation, like anesthesia, the word “stability” makes me nauseous. Not the best cult of cash has come to replace the cult of personality enslaved in the coffin. Honey slaughter - from one hand, on the other - the factory of tears, squeezing a drop from a person's man. There are only villains in power, fools outside of it. Charity - care for the poor, multiplying their livestock. Astrology - the science of the influence of the heavenly bodies on human darkness. Disarmed forces Bank formation. "Knock on the money." "Pet sucker." And the main difference from the overthrown system in 91: everyone has learned to lie slyly - and crime rules the ball.

In general, cannibalism in its purest form. It eats people a million a year: here there are already serial teeth kills, suicides, and simply incompatible with life, like trauma, poverty.

Well, yes, and a dog with him! - habitually responds in those killed by the current struggle for survival of hearts. And the flies get blindly under the fly swatter - so what? Do not fold the wings to other flies!

For flies - no questions. But are we different from those flies, or are we no different? If nothing, this stability is just right: whoever dared, he ate; those who did not have time to thrust their proboscis into the stream were late. And all the signs of this human degeneration are evident: we no longer read human books, literary magazines do not go out. In the course of one anesthetic stage: "Ha-ra-sho! Everything will be ha-ra-sho! ”Love - there is no such word anymore, there is“ fuck ”or“ love-carrot ”. For every three marriages, two divorces - which, in the official language, “entails, along with the growth of extramarital births, an increase in single-parent families ...”

And yet - the growth of the invisible world, not wanting to see anything, orphan tears - yes, the dog and with them! For the word "conscience" is also no more. And you can build a life with crystal locks on the ruble is not something that on the tears of an innocent child - on the whole Niagara Falls such tears!

But still, it seems to me that this spiritual collapse cannot be complete. Some kind of human instinct invested in us at the gene level is ineradicable. To be more precise, to say this: we will still remain human if this eclipse passes — or not in any way. You can not bring down the level of consciousness of a monkey to the level of a frog, there will be no macaques. And the human soul can not be cut to Macaque - there will be no people.

But why is this eclipse? Where did this crust clog our natural human spring? In my opinion, these are all the berries of the two putsches of 91 and 93, which are already quite forgotten, but which deeply determined our present consciousness and being.



I was on both of these putsches - and I’d never agree that in 91, the White House was defended by villains who were bribed by someone. Rather - idiots, from among whom I do not exclude myself. Because he accomplished a personal feat there - and not because he was some exceptional hero, but because he was just in that number.

When all that movie was suddenly cut off on television on the morning of August 19 and between the mourning corps de ballet the GKChP performed with his trembling insincere hands, I sincerely rushed to the subway and left in the center. Other viewers did the same, as there is a rule: he took up his chest - say something! And these immediately startled tremors, muttering something slurred, drove dumb tanks on the chest - and not gu-gu.

And we, already spoiled by the rally freemen, come on, as a woman during inept boarding, to resist these silent people. We are leaving the subway, we see armored vehicles lurking in the alleys - this is against us, civilians! - and begin to find out where the epicenter of violence. After an instantaneous shu-shu, which worked better than it swallowed the language of Ostankino, we learn: from the White House, the Russian residence, the name of Yeltsin, the government. And like streams from the mountains, forming further the river, we flock there from all over Moscow.

There they are already building barricades, dragging the armature - and the same armored cars lined up in a column along the new Arbat bridge. And at the same time, in their frightening and annoying dumbness, they stand as embodied violence - whereas from our side everything is growing this very shu-shu. The main thing in it is where Yeltsin will be able to break through to us from his summer cottage or not? And how, with or without him, we, without having the same tanks, will be able to defeat these stagnates? And that they need to be conquered - it went into the minds of itself, this was their very trembling look, not compensated by any armor, he immediately convinced everyone.

And then - the first key breakthrough. For the time being, our only communication strength is the very shu-shu — it conveys: Yeltsin broke through! Well, cheers! And here he makes his most winning move in this fight. He climbs into the tank in the middle of the crowd - and he says the same tribunal word that our entire crumpled chest was waiting for the most. That is, he reads his decree that these armored defenders are rapists and villains, but he will sweep them all away, and will save us, and we, as a woman, are ready to give all-out to the deliverer. For here the people and the woman are one: just pat them correctly, animate them and scratch the opponent’s eyes for you. And we, more and more boldly, we go to the bridge - where these tanks all show us, like in vain exposed shame, their non-firing guns.

Someone from the brain office in the White House, who worked much better than the State Emergency Committee, found and gave everyone a trick on how to take the chest of those who first wanted to take us. Go to those tanks in peace and come into contact with their crews - offering them coffee sandwiches in the form of a goodwill gesture. And then already everywhere, where these pugachs were leaving, they were cut off by nimble "nines", from which they got buckets of sandwiches - what filled the volunteers who went to storm tankers. And in 91, this zhrachka with its armor-piercing power even surpassed the Chechen grenade launchers, of which in 95-m shot down federal armor in Grozny.

And when this still timid contact attempt on the bridge just came, an army bobik flew in, from which a colonel jumped out with a machine gun on his shoulder: “Everyone back! Get away from the technology! ”His gloomy face, then known to the whole country, was in a hell of a sweat, he walked from tank to tank, separating people on both sides of the armor, like a lightning fastener.

But just around me there was a hitch, peaceful people tried to say something to him, but he yelled in a low bass:

- I'm an officer, I have an order to shoot! I can put everyone now! - and his hand nervously rummaged on the forearm weapons.

It was then that I, authorized by a universal heroic impulse, jumped forward like a breast from a bra:

“What kind of officer are you!” Shit! When a Russian officer received such an order, he put a bullet through his head, not in children and women!

And my voice trembling on a high note had suddenly a completely unexpected action. In the face of the colonel something broke, he turned purple, turned around - and through the victoriously parting civilian system he trotted away. And at once everything that had been disconnected by him again concurred - and was no longer separated until the very victorious end.

I spent all three days on that defense of the besieged fortress, and I can say that heroism really hit there with the key. No one knew then: will there be a shooting assault or not? And yet we all alternately drove away to their homes - to eat and sleep, but when it was heard that the shooting would begin now, no one had abandoned their positions.

All this has already been shown more than once in the most flattering form for the victors, in this case many who are directly at risk of life; who is a timely jogging - they made their percussive careers. But how ingloriously this epic ended for me.

When at last it was spread that ours took, Gorbachev was rescued, and the coup leaders were arrested, most of us, as if passing the watch, began to disperse with a light heart. But the next day I could not resist the temptation of the winner to return to victorious places. And he was surprised that the crowd at the fortress, which no longer needed to be defended, only grew even more. But I didn’t meet any of my acquaintances from the past days - and in order to find them, I moved into the thick of the ground, already organized as at former parades, by some activists who had never been seen before.

And I have one of them: “Where are you going? You didn’t stand here! ”By inertia of the past day I wanted to easily pass through it - as before through the armor barrier:“ It didn’t stand here! I stood here for three days! ”-“ And I'm standing now! ”And the renewed crowd that came to the safe parade ground parade stood up for him, not for me, with a feeling of a well-adjusted rear elbow. And I, having felt that this rear link will be, perhaps, stronger than all frontal armor, did not begin to swing the rights and, having not found former acquaintances, left to annoy home with annoyance.

It was then that all the sobering up after the victorious yesterday and it came - when the fiesta of these interceptors of someone else's victory was on TV. That is, that skewed already to finish the country, under the guise of finishing the State Emergency Committee, a concert at the White House with Rostropovich and others, who had all the fear and risk sitting in the gaps and got out there to bring down Dzerzhinsky - and with it the whole country. I, like the idiots like me, thought that he had defended her, but it turned out that he had betrayed into the hands of the marauders who had uncovered it after the units and overturned them in further devastation.

Yes, I really didn’t know what I was doing - I don’t boast or blame for anything, but I confess what I sincerely say. But could it somehow somehow beat the State Emergency Committee, whose goals: preserving the country, preventing further slaughter — with all his manual trembling were still nobler than the winners?

I think in any way: there was him a pure zugzwang, that is, a situation in a chess game, where any move only worsens the position of the person who entered it.

Well, let's say, in time they arrested b Yeltsin, they even killed b. It is easy to imagine how he would immediately become a saint - even that one, the legendary friend of the people of the 91 model, and not the drunken disgrace that everyone felt sick afterwards. The people who had already been missed by yesterday’s fathers of the nation would not forgive him for imprisoning him, much less murder — and would have fallen down his name with his hands, rushing to their profit.

I remember how one of the most intelligent lady of that time almost scratched my face when I doubted that Yeltsin, becoming the secretary of the Sverdlovsk regional committee, moved to the hostel to live closer to the people. Then, in Yekaterinburg itself, I asked: was there really such a thing? Yes, it was: for himself and the near nobility, he built their house-palace on the Iset embankment - and in order not to pay rent, spent it as a hostel at the House of the collective farmer. But his myth, in the creation of which he surpassed all former party lies, then had an unprecedented success - and demanded for debunking such skill, which the gamers did not have and close.

To give the command to the firing assault - again, the people, inflamed with the dream of centuries about freedom and endless sausage, stood to death and the putschists would drown in the blood they shed. Because Yeltsin really irremediably motivated this dream: commodity intervention, price cuts on everything, a rise in wages — and so on, right down to the oath to lie on the rails, if tricked. On the one hand, no one has yet lied so excitedly, on the other - famous actors, academicians, or indeed being seduced by a crazy fairy tale, or how, they vowed that it was doable. And all you need is to knock over a handful of old partocrats! Well, we are such a people: even if you shoot at us, we will believe in these wonders of freebies; Yeltsin saddled this fabulous faith - and won.

And what could the coupters say in response - except for the banal and disgusting people of the 91 sample of truth, that free cheese is only in a mousetrap? But they did not even say it, so that it came to the heart, to the mind. And steel has become extremely unconvincing to defame the fiery scoop - which, as is well known, only raises such in loving eyes fixed on him.

People’s love — that’s what these couplists didn’t earn, some vivid action, a word that, like the Decembrists ’feat, didn’t work then, then it would come up later. And by this their failure was foretold.



The victory of the White Sea fighters in 91 predestined their defeat in 93. My friend, an opera singer with the earliest ear for music, who spent the same three days living with a human shield in the same crowd, said to me afterwards: “When I understood who I defended and for whom I was ready to shed blood, I gave myself a pledge: never again into politics do not climb. There is nothing dirtier in the world, it will spoil you, even if you thrust into it with the best of intentions. ” And in 93 the defense of the again besieged stronghold, already with Rutsky and Khasbulatov, many did not go in principle - remembering how foolishly they had been deceived last time.

But for all that, civil non-resistance to vicious violence is evil itself, and therefore I, no longer ill deceived by new insurgents, again deliberately went to the same rake. Now, from the quickened riot policemen, who chased the people there more than past tanks, he got a cudgel along the ridge - but that was not until the end of the bloody this time from the game. And because I soon realized that this time, Rutskoi’s business with Khasbulatov was already very personal in many respects, doomed.

Whatever you may say, but in 91, the White House exceeded its opponents first of all with its mind - and then it was decided to take the upper hand by force. Only with their victims the halo began to acquire the sympathy necessary for the victory of the masses, as they fell into the obvious trap - having gone to a forceful seizure of Ostankino.

And it was only their opponents who waited - to tell those thyroid masses: look, this is no sufferers, no sheep! And they themselves beat at the Ostankino shrine, where Vlad Listyev himself creates the Field of Miracles for the country! Clear power that such villains, encroached on the most sacred, only from tanks and crush! And when Korzhakov’s tanks, unlike the Swan’s tanks, which took off on the one that didn’t shoot, shot at the narrow windows, the people who came to be shot as on Listiev’s talk show almost sent greetings to his relatives and friends. He also worked on bloodshed with such a link: that if they win, they would cancel the then-voucher for the “Volga” - and according to the latest calculations of Chubais, these “Volg” have not one for each, but for all two!

Well, once in two - although no one has yet seen one - then, of course, beat the Rutsky, save a freebie! And the 93 th riot that did not spark mass heroism was, by and large, not from tank guns - but by the indifference of the majority who had fallen away from it. Which already spontaneously understood: no matter how rebellion, ultimately, these “they” will win, ready to promise everything, but as a result, putting our life into a penny. But at the same time they misunderstood that they wouldn’t rebel at all - they wouldn’t give a penny!

The revolt of the Decembrists, too, was once fatally doomed. But he stretched forward a charge of high personal honor and dreams for a hundred and fifty years. Since the person is still the main thing in cash, and no matter how the waves of low human self-interest are digging at us, for some time everything remained a nation of people - and not fly-like creatures. And because only won in wars and labor, could store and multiply our wide spaces. But only this spiritual basis disappears from some nation, it ceases to exist - like ancient Rome or medieval Byzantium. There is even an expression in the Russian language: “And aki doom died”, - about the mythical people that once conquered huge spaces, but then, according to the chronicler, died out “by itself”.

And both of these coup 90-x left us a trace of deep spiritual devastation: the blood was shed in vain - and even with a negative outcome. In 91, our best impulses, filled with the literary boom of perestroika — and all previous ones, from the Decembrists' human dream, were brought to us, as if on the Senate Square, to the defense of the devil who knows. And the heroic impulse intercepted by these devils knows the chem, exchanged for self-interest and led to the collapse and disgrace of the whole country, sowed in us an allergic aversion to all spiritual food - replaced later by that pop show. The people rejected the very idea of ​​any battle for their rights, seeing twice that villains thrive in their field, which was stained with the blood of useless victims.

Therefore, now with all the trampling of all divine and human laws, this “stability” reigns in our country, a synonymous loss of that fundamental principle, without which a nation is no longer a nation, but a prophetic, and even more often not even native shepherds, a herd.

And we, for the rest of the world, who had previously bowed to our conquests, are increasingly doing something like a boring fly, from which there is only filth and itching. We can’t swat us away - because of our still huge amount, but measures to our reduction are already being taken. We are busy today only pumping our bowels and stealing income from them from each other. These two putsches ruined the most important thing in us: faith in our victory, will to it. All that remains is the same gloomy face of soulless power — and the already economically mutually hating and future-free dismemberment into “we” and “they.”

And therefore, I see our national way out in the only alternative to this stability that buries us steadily: in the new, third putsch, which, so far, as they say, lacks coke. But if on those stars that are now ridiculous, but for some reason our people are still watching, it is written to us not to die, this coke will be found. But only once in a hundred or ten years to come to the square, to win there overnight, or to blow and run up - zero sense. It is necessary in the soul to stand on this square and the human honor to have always. Since all of us can survive only in the form of a man, and never in a mushin form.

This, of course, is terribly difficult, more difficult than a disposable syringe of dizzying heroism. But there is no other way to life.
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  1. Vadivak
    Vadivak 12 December 2012 16: 01
    +38
    In the 91st White House, patriots defended or

    I would say deceived by Judas Yeltsin, he will then deceive more than once, including his entourage,
    1. Andrey_K
      Andrey_K 12 December 2012 16: 21
      +2
      Why cheated?
      After all the events, Yeltsin personally handed each one million rubles.
      Only this bright event was overshadowed by the controversy: "Who are you ?! I haven't seen you on the barricades!"
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 12 December 2012 16: 29
        +6
        Quote: Andrey_K
        After all the events, Yeltsin personally handed each one million rubles.

        To whom is this to whom?
        1. Andrey_K
          Andrey_K 12 December 2012 18: 09
          +7
          Each participant is a "White House Defender".
          I watched the plot on "news" where they showed how Yeltsin hands over money and the announcer also complained that after the events there were more defenders than during the events - they say what dishonest people are trying to make dishonest money.
          1. Garrin
            Garrin 12 December 2012 18: 38
            -3
            Quote: Andrey_K
            Each participant is a "White House Defender".
            I watched the plot on "news" where they showed how Yeltsin hands over money and the announcer also complained that after the events there were more defenders than during the events - they say what dishonest people are trying to make dishonest money.

            "-" For nonsense. I was there, now I understand that in vain, but then I was ready to get up under the bullets and stood there. We believed then. Now everything is overgrown with "details" that both drunk and drug addicts ... I can say with complete responsibility that I have not seen either drunk or stoned. The first night with our platoon Margarita Terekhova was sitting by the fire, reading poems, telling tales of the actors ... We communicated with the tankers quite normally ... In short, to tell, to retell this article. Yes, I was wrong, but there was no need for dirt, they did not accept any handouts.
            1. Andrey_K
              Andrey_K 12 December 2012 18: 54
              +7
              Ну и что?
              This did not at all prevent Yeltsin from rewarding the "heroes."
              Did you get any money?
              Well, this is your problem.
              1. Garrin
                Garrin 12 December 2012 19: 17
                -8
                Stupid. This is the minus promised, in the previous message it was mistakenly plus.
                I am convinced that it’s zhovto-blocking, everything is for fat, but they measure for grandmas.
                1. Andrey_K
                  Andrey_K 12 December 2012 20: 42
                  +8
                  And you - as they said something impartial - so immediately "zhovtoblokitny"?
                  Well, I, too, can throw shortcuts, then digest:
                  My grandfather lived in Leningrad when he was arrested and sent to build the Belomorkanal.
                  And for some time now I am more and more convinced that in both capitals a similar "unnatural selection" has raised the appropriate type of people who either defend all sorts of thieves and demogogs or organize processions "for fair elections", but in fact act according to the habit worked out for many years : "to betray in time and grab for free."
                  After all, nowhere but Moscow did the "protest movements" gain such strength, and nowhere except Moscow did so many rednecks of performers accumulate - which very well characterizes the modern inhabitants of this city.
                  (although there are also a decent number of them in St. Petersburg)
                  1. Garrin
                    Garrin 13 December 2012 17: 50
                    0
                    Quote: Andrey_K
                    And for some time now I am more and more convinced that in both capitals a similar "unnatural selection" has raised the appropriate type of people who either defend all sorts of thieves and demogogs or organize processions "for fair elections", but in fact act according to the habit worked out for many years : "to betray in time and grab for free."

                    But aren’t you hanging the labels yourself now?


                    Quote: Andrey_K
                    After all, nowhere but Moscow did the "protest movements" gain such strength, and nowhere except Moscow did so many rednecks of performers accumulate - which very well characterizes the modern inhabitants of this city.

                    And didn’t you think that nowhere but Moscow does such a number of people live? Accordingly, it is in proportion.
            2. Grenz
              Grenz 12 December 2012 20: 43
              +9
              Garrin
              Our saint, following the ram, a lost sheep. By the fire, poems were read! What an idyll! Well, right syu-syu! Only a handkerchief is missing.
              But I know for sure that vans brought vodka, Kamaz - cobblestones, chopped and ground reinforcement. And snipers from the promised lands did not just fall from the sky.
              Now there is a film of Zadornov - about our history and where did Russia go.
              So, in order not to sell the Homeland to the Gentiles again, and then to tear the hair, one must first think, and who needs all these revolutions?
              Well, breathed freedom - not sick!
              1. Garrin
                Garrin 13 December 2012 17: 46
                -1
                Quote: grenz
                But I know for sure that vans brought vodka, Kamaz - cobblestones, chopped and ground reinforcement. And snipers from the promised lands did not just fall from the sky.

                Source. Authentic you are ours.
                1. Grenz
                  Grenz 13 December 2012 21: 25
                  -1
                  Garrin,
                  There is a place and facts. Only then I was not warming myself around the fire, I wanted to somehow save the sheep's skins. You are our pious.
          2. Garrin
            Garrin 13 December 2012 18: 31
            0
            Well, nonsense. He handed out orders and medals, but in order to plot loot in the hands ... Turn on your head sometimes. Without it, the distributors would not have been found on television.
            Pancake. Just to blurt out.
    2. SSR
      SSR 12 December 2012 16: 21
      +28
      Yeltsin broke through! Well already cheers! Crawls into the middle of the crowd on the tank - and says the same thing tribune wordwhich all our crumpled breasts were waiting for most of all. That is, he reads his decree that these armored guards - rapists and villains, but he will sweep them all away, and save us, - and we, as a woman, are ready to surrender ourselves at all costs to the deliverer.

      juf and then vice versa ...
      I was 4000 km from Moscow at that time and sincerely for some reason I hoped that the PPPs would be in power ... in my fragile mind .. there was only one thought that they wanted to keep the army and the USSR .. but before the Emergency Committee I saw how my relatives threw Komsomol tickets .. and I remember how those who did not understand what was happening quietly whispered in the kitchen .. and those who are generally stupid .... those shouted the loudest .. we will live along the western .. beautifully and with refinement ....
      and now that .... 100 varieties of sausage and I do not buy it .... because almost all of it is stuffed with the same glutamate ...
      To live a wise life, you need to know quite a few Two important rules to remember for starters: You better go hungry than eat anything And it is better to be alone than with anyone! Omar Khayyam.
      1. not good
        not good 12 December 2012 17: 14
        +18
        And then I served in Kamchatka and, according to conversations between officers, 90% belonged to the State Emergency Committee, but where is Moscow and where is Kamchatka. The fate of uninformed millions was decided by several dozen informed kov. , Gorbachev and two dozen ideologists of liberalism.
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 12 December 2012 19: 46
          +7
          Quote: Negoro
          And then I served in Kamchatka and according to conversations between officers 90% were for the Emergency Committee, but where is Moscow and where is Kamchatka.

          Quote: SSR
          I was 4000 km from Moscow then and sincerely for some reason I was hopeful that PPPs would be in power.

          So do I. And many, many millions more.
          So it turns out that a handful of Muscovites made the rrrrrevolution. A year ago, rallies were also taking place ... almost exclusively in Moscow. Parallels not visible? Maybe these are the heirs? And the author again about his sore: "You have to stand in this square in your heart" Did he try to work? Or just "stand in the square"?
          1. Egen
            Egen 13 December 2012 05: 44
            +1
            everyone understands that this is a production for which money is paid. In the 90s, they were deceived, but now perhaps we have already grown wiser? And if not, and there are still "believers" in the squares - woe to us: (((
        2. Captain45
          Captain45 13 December 2012 03: 53
          +8
          Quote: Negoro
          And then I served in Kamchatka and according to conversations between officers 90% was for the Emergency Committee,

          19.08.91 I took up duty on the city’s task force, so percent of 90 of our city department walked and rubbed my hands joyfully upon the news that the hunchback was ill and that the power in the country had passed to the State Emergency Committee. In my opinion, the province was mainly for the State Emergency Committee and the preservation of the USSR but, as always, everything is decided here in two cities, Moscow and Leningrad, and there it’s full of everything ...., it’s not in vain that Muscovites didn’t like anywhere else on military service.
      2. Egen
        Egen 13 December 2012 05: 42
        +2
        +, similarly on 500 km further.
    3. NAV-STAR
      NAV-STAR 12 December 2012 16: 22
      +11
      We all need to know the truth and correctly analyze the events that have taken place- The collapse of the USSR is a betrayal of senior management.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 12 December 2012 17: 41
        +13
        Quote: NAV-STAR
        We all need to know the truth and correctly analyze the events that have taken place- The collapse of the USSR is a betrayal of senior management.


        The main thing is that after 1991 Russia was created lifestyle, disastrous for the Russian people. It is aimed at pumping out the last oil penny from the country, it is robbing the Russian people of the work that they are used to doing - a lot of work on the industrialization of his country. Their goal disappeared - to live, give birth, create. If this way is not changed, then we are doomed to lose our national identity and sovereignty, some will die out, some will turn into universal people - consumers with a wallet instead of a head.
        1. 11Goor11
          11Goor11 12 December 2012 18: 24
          +9
          "If someone ruins Russia, it will not be communists, not anarchists, but damned liberals" F.M. Dostoevsky

          How do they want with the hands of the people to make another coup in order to share what they managed to save.
          Do you really need to step on this rake again?
          "Liberal reforms" - this is when an ordinary person becomes much worse than it was.
          “Price liberalization” means rampant price increases.
          “Tax liberalization" is when the rich pay proportionally less than the poor.
          "Liberalization of criminal law" - when killers, pedophiles, maniacs are ridiculous terms and are at large.

          http://www.relga.ru/Environ/WebObjects/tgu-www.woa/wa/Main?textid=2592&level1=ma
          in & level2 = articles
        2. donchepano
          donchepano 12 December 2012 22: 55
          0
          +++ 1000000 Ascetic
    4. Botanologist
      Botanologist 12 December 2012 16: 46
      +11
      Any crowd is, in fact, a bunch of idiots. Well, in any case, the psychology of the crowd is different in that:
      - in the crowd of a person the illusion of anonymity that unties the hands
      - the crowd can only respond to primitive ideas and perform primitive actions
      - people in the crowd are depersonalized. (In general, this process, called dehumanization, is a very scary thing).
      - a person in the crowd "dissolves", as it were, loses his individuality.
      - in the crowd there is only one rule: "do like everyone else."
      Well, a lot of other things, even more mournful. In particular, the fact that the crowd is very easy to manage.

      Therefore, when beautiful souls push us into the crowd, it’s worth looking into the center of the crowd - 1) who is the leader, 2) what he wants, 3) what is your role.
      If everything suits you - go ahead, die heroically. If in doubt, it’s easier to talk to the cordon, clarify orders and scenarios, and agree on the rules. For example: "There is my grandmother in the crowd, she is hard of hearing and may not have time to leave. I hope there is no order to beat everyone just like that?" I did so - the result is not bad. In any case, no one was beaten or abused in my precinct ... However, it was not in 91 or 93. and not in 2012 (I am not a revolutionary, I confess).

      So it's best to turn on your head and look not at the enemies, but at the "friends" who really want to play their popularity with your blood. But that's a completely different story.
      1. not good
        not good 12 December 2012 17: 19
        +13
        By the way, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, it was possible to communicate with a large KGB chief, so he said that to prevent the separation of the Baltic states would be enough that only a couple of dozen agents of influence would be missing. The KGB would lead them all, but there would be no political decision. Gorbachev was banal.
        1. Poppy
          Poppy 12 December 2012 17: 45
          +13
          why did you decide that you got scared, and didn’t do it on purpose?
          1. not good
            not good 13 December 2012 15: 01
            0
            A person who, during his tenure in power, made a bunch of irresponsible decisions, because he knew there was no one to punish him, was suddenly given the choice to shoot or not, and then he fell ill and dumped everything on the Emergency Committee, and if the Emergency Committee had succeeded, then he would have jumped out and headed ... so he got scared!
        2. Rowicz
          Rowicz 13 December 2012 06: 33
          +1
          Gorbachev did not scare ....... he betrayed angry
    5. baltika-18
      baltika-18 12 December 2012 16: 51
      +24
      Quote: Vadivak
      I would say deceived by Judas Yeltsin

      I hate Yeltsin and his followers. They deprived me of my USSR country. I kept my USSR citizen passport when they changed I said I lost. I decided to leave. I was and will always remain a supporter of the socialist system, a supporter of the USSR, whatever it may be. It was an experience 20th century, I am sure that the Great Russian Socialist Union of the 21st century will be held on a new basis, taking into account the experience of the past.
      1. SSR
        SSR 12 December 2012 17: 02
        +10
        That's what most charmed by words did ... one hundred varieties of sausage. and we will not feed the hangers-on
        20 years have passed ... you still have to feed the "hangers-on" because otherwise it will get even worse.
      2. vovan1949
        vovan1949 12 December 2012 19: 43
        +5
        Baltika-18 totally agree with you. Only the socialist path of development will lead the countries of the former USSR out of that deadly peak into which the democrats introduced them in 1991 and continue to lead them now. B. Shaw, an Irish playwright, philosopher and prose writer, an outstanding critic of his time, wrote: - “We must think about the future, about the significance of Lenin for the future, and the significance of his future is such that if the experience that Lenin undertook is the experience of socialism - fail, then modern civilization will perish, as many civilizations have perished in the past. "
      3. Alx1miK
        Alx1miK 12 December 2012 23: 43
        +10
        I will never forget the winter of one of the 90s, when I was 5-6 years old. All winter they ate baked potatoes with pickled tomatoes. For they did not pay either salaries or pensions. And I still remember - a lot of impressions. We almost died. "democracy", "freedom" "rights". GO FUCK JUDAH I ARE FEATURE OF THEM. RETURN MY COUNTRY.
      4. Captain45
        Captain45 13 December 2012 03: 48
        +3
        Quote: baltika-18
        . I saved the passport of a citizen of the USSR, when they changed they said that I had lost. I decided to leave.

        Until 96 of the year, on the lapels, the emblems of the USSR wore a union-style uniform, dissuaded me from having my size in the warehouse, and then the political officer personally handed Russian emblems, and they issued the uniform with pockets, but I swore an oath to one state - USSR, another did not accept.
    6. YARY
      YARY 12 December 2012 18: 30
      +8
      Vadim! Dear!
      We are now living in the same deception. There is no faith. We believed, our children were already in the "confusion of faith"! What about now? Either we start to believe, or the cranks.
      Without faith in ....... (the right to put) there is no core!
      We pulled out the core and left a void, but in nature there is no place for a void.
      And it began to fill with turbidity. Anything "well-wishers" wanted because of the cordrn.
      We didn’t have a leader capable of "pulling out" this rubbish and giving a goal. To return the faith.
      But I still hope that what remains in the genes, in the synapses, at the micro level of the cell of the Russian immunity. And the disease, albeit immediately and after some time, but will be defeated!
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 12 December 2012 19: 41
        +3
        Quote: Ardent
        There is no faith.


        Andrew is a great comment. It’s not even in your style, whether it’s spiritual, I personally believe but not in people, I’ve eaten up, history doesn’t teach us. You are right because of the cordon, salvation will not come, we should be united by something that once united, but not ritualization but real clean, childlike Vera
        1. YARY
          YARY 12 December 2012 19: 49
          +1
          Thats exactly what I mean...
    7. Kaa
      Kaa 12 December 2012 19: 17
      +4
      Quote: Vadivak
      I would say deceived by Judas Yeltsin,

      It is not about them that it is said by chance:
      "Ah, it's not difficult to deceive me
      I'm glad to be deceived myself ... "?
      In one cute Soviet fantasy comedy, a sign hung on the wall:
      "Everyone is delusional to the best of his ability." I may be mistaken, but somehow a parallel suggests itself, the "defense of the White House" in 1991 and Bolotnaya Square, Maidan (literally square) 2004 in Kiev and Tahrir Square in Cairo. A strange associative array, always leading to the degradation of the country and society (maybe, of course, with Bolotnaya, not everything is so started yet). I remember one exception - Tiananmen Square in Beijing .... Maybe this is the "homespun truth of life", according to the authors' apt remarks, "it is homespun, thin and thin"?
      1. kulpin
        kulpin 12 December 2012 19: 56
        +1
        Quote: Kaa
        One exception is recalled - Tiananmen Square in Beijing ....

        So after all, in China, a couple of thousand years before the birth of Christ, there were already universities ... In the Middle Kingdom, from the time immemorial (by our standards), letters were taught not by the psalter, but by the philosophical treatises of Confucius. Do not compare God's gift with fried eggs ... However, plus you.
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 12 December 2012 22: 46
          0
          Not only in China, but also in other places. wink
        2. Kaa
          Kaa 13 December 2012 00: 03
          +1
          Quote: kulpin
          However, plus you.

          Thank you for your kind attitude. feel But the example with Confucius ... to put it mildly ... somehow, not really. For example, he taught that "It is beautiful where mercy is. Is it possible to achieve wisdom if you do not live in its land?" Somehow the Chinese military acted in a non-Confucian way with the students ... Rather, they applied the wisdom of Sun Tzu during the demonstration: “War is a way of deception. Therefore, if you can do anything, show the enemy as if you cannot; if you do use something, show him that you are not using it; even though you are close, show that you are far away; even though you are far away, show that you are close; lure him with a profit; bring him to frustration and take it; if he has everything full, be ready; if he is strong, evade him; arouse anger in him, bring him into a state of frustration; assuming a humble appearance, arouse conceit in him; if his strength is fresh, tire him; if he is friendly, separate; attack him when he is not ready; act when he does not expect. "
          In short, the poor students were deceived, lured, upset, acted and ..... soaked. The effect has been going on for more than a quarter of a century. It’s bad that politicians do not teach literacy in this book ...
    8. sashka
      sashka 12 December 2012 20: 27
      +1
      But He is tired .. And He has a Successor .. What is the problem ??? Glory !!!
    9. donchepano
      donchepano 12 December 2012 22: 52
      +1
      Creatures which country uhaydakali
    10. Alx1miK
      Alx1miK 12 December 2012 23: 06
      -2
      Maybe I’m not right, but the comforting, like anesthesia, word “stability” makes me feel sick.

      Lord, how right you are ... I remember before the 2011 elections on NTV they showed some kind of program. About the congress of United Russia in Luzhniki (well, or whatever was there). So there was a man with his daughter and wife, waving the flag of Russia. He was asked "why are you for Putin." He - neither be nor me, said that he is "a real man" and "that with him everything is stable." I also heard this word from many who were interviewed. It is interesting - if you ask them "what is stability" - at least 15% will answer?
    11. dimanf
      dimanf 12 December 2012 23: 34
      +3
      And the "shilki" with full ammunition stood in the vineyards around Belbek!
      it was necessary to bang then.
      There would be no Chubais, no default, etc.
  2. IRBIS
    IRBIS 12 December 2012 16: 05
    +43
    The medal "Defender of Free Russia", which was awarded after the putsch of 91, was nicknamed by the common people "zap ranka".
    In 91, our division was ready for a breakthrough to Moscow, but there was no command. I am not bloodthirsty, but I am very sorry that the democratic infection was not crushed then. All that was needed was an order that no one dared to give. Three days of lack of will and then ten years of total lawlessness, national shame, the ruin of everything and impoverishment. Let this be a lesson for those who are afraid to show political will and determination.
    1. Nevsky
      Nevsky 12 December 2012 16: 19
      +24
      I subscribe to every word of yours IRBIS
      My parents lost their jobs and wandered around rented apartments ...
      And in 1996, as a kid, I collected metal at a landfill: copper, iron, etc.
      And all because someone somewhere was silent and chickened. China in 1989, by the way 2 years earlier, made the right decision.
    2. omsbon
      omsbon 12 December 2012 21: 59
      0
      Quote: IRBIS
      In the 91st, our division was ready to rush to Moscow,

      Dear Alexander!
      Dzerzhinsky Division? Or was some other getting ready for a jerk? Answer please.
  3. Fox
    Fox 12 December 2012 16: 14
    +5
    I heard about Moscow events ... they threw them like suckers ... there weren’t such a madhouse on the periphery. Muscovites used them blindly as extras. Such was the scenario ... but to the author + for his insight, few are able to admit past mistakes.
  4. Che
    Che 12 December 2012 16: 15
    +9
    Most believed EBN and prosrai their past and future. Now the task is to get out of shit and build your country in spite of neither false democrats nor liberals.
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 12 December 2012 19: 53
      +4
      Che,
      For the sake of personal power, EBN destroyed the country, burning him and his henchmen in hell.
  5. Nick
    Nick 12 December 2012 16: 16
    +5
    Of course, in the 91-White House, patriots defended, out of good intentions, but they were not given to understand that they defended some crooks from others. As well as most of us ... But the article is not unambiguous, in many respects with the author agrees but not in everything ...
    1. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 12 December 2012 16: 55
      +8
      Of course, in the 91st White House patriots defended, out of well-meaning, but to understand that they defended some crooks from others they were not given to understand.
      Patriots? Maybe ..... but I must admit, stupid patriots, warmed up with alcohol and sandwiches! At first, within 5 years, the Soviet past was hayli, the economy was collapsing, the preconditions were created, so "stupid patriots" appeared. This, like in our Ukraine, the members of the Orange Sabbath, also consider themselves patriots and whine that Yushchenko betrayed them. I believe that there were two categories of people on the Ukrainian Maidan (with students it is clear, at this age young people are prone to rebellion.): 1. Idiots, those who did not know whose money it was all organized, 2. Bastards, those who knew that the money of the Anglo-Saxons. Here you can draw parallels between the "patriots" 91g. and Ukrainian "patriots" 2004
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 13 December 2012 00: 32
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir 70
        1. Idiots, those who did not know whose money it was all organized by; 2. Bastards, those who knew that the money was Anglo-Saxons.

        Well, the latter can be sorted out, in the end, they will bite each other-transplant (or in the beginning?), But the former is immeasurable, judging by the fact that our mess of the end-edge is not visible, what about these to do, on some new slogans will be led ... request
    2. vovan1949
      vovan1949 12 December 2012 20: 00
      +3
      Are these patriots? - all these hakimads and Novodvoretsovs, dogs and starovoytovs, all these showmen and fashion designers, those who dance and sing and relax in Korshevel. Yes, now on their street is a holiday, they are fattening and mad. No it's not patriots
      And these are not enemies. Enemies are vile, cunning and dangerous.
  6. Nechai
    Nechai 12 December 2012 16: 22
    +5
    From the victorious rally of 91st at the White House, it crashed - on the balcony behind the speakers, jumping and pushing those in front, trying to get through to the microphones Nikita Mikhalkov. Tirelessly conjuring: "Give me! Let me tell you !!!" And Rutskoy, disgustedly so, silently, threw him away with his forearm - he went, they say, from here!
    "And in 93, to defend the besieged stronghold, already with Rutskoy and Khasbulatov, many did not fundamentally go - remembering how stupidly they were deceived the last time."
    Quote: Vadivak
    deceived by Judas Yeltsin, he will then deceive more than once, including his entourage,

    Yes, and his entourage was "the most worthy". Alfovtsy and soldiers of the special forces "Vympel" after all, at first they were "FOR" the Supreme Soviet. Well, when they got the interception of Khasbulatov's telephone conversations with the Americans, they went aside. Based on the truth - that forehead, that spelled!
    Quote: Fox
    Muscovites used blindly as extras. Such was the scenario ..

    And the Sverdlovsk OMON, under the command of Rushailo, shot at the stadium Krasnopresnensky who came and was captured at the 93rd White House ...
    1. SSR
      SSR 12 December 2012 16: 29
      +2
      Quote: Nechai
      Well, when did they get the interception of Khasbulatov’s telephone conversations with the Americans,

      Oh, can I talk about this in more detail? and then here I recently met an article in which Khasbulatov said just the opposite that EBNu and CO under a hundred advisers from America were sent.
    2. omsbon
      omsbon 12 December 2012 22: 13
      0
      Quote: Nechai
      Sverdlovsk OMON, under the command of Rushailo, shot at the stadium Krasnopresnensky

      Dear Valery!
      It is possible in more detail. I heard, but did not believe.
    3. Papakiko
      Papakiko 12 December 2012 22: 56
      -2
      Quote: Nechai
      And the Sverdlovsk OMON, under the command of Rushailo, shot at the stadium Krasnopresnensky who came and was captured at the 93rd White House ...

      What bloodthirsty guys from Rushailo came. belay
      Some talked to Amers, others talked, but in reality there were probably citizens of the "foggy albion". wink
      What was really not given to us to learn! hi
      Only the surface part of the iceberg and that’s it. belay
    4. donchepano
      donchepano 13 December 2012 07: 18
      0
      Quote: Nechai
      Sverdlovsk OMON, who had arrived and captured at the 93rd White House, was shot at the Krasnopresnensky stadium under the command of Rushailo ...


      This is not a fairy tale by chance? Although rushail cannot be called useful for Russia
  7. igor36
    igor36 12 December 2012 16: 30
    +1
    Our commandant’s company was guarded by the arsenal and perimeter of the unit, and for 3 days no one understood what was happening, and then they removed the regiment’s political officer who read the appeal of the State Emergency Committee.
  8. basal
    basal 12 December 2012 16: 37
    +16
    Yes, life has proved to us that the Chinese, who were not afraid of the violent suppression of "democracy" in Tiananmen, were completely right. They crushed imported democracy in the bud and live for themselves, get on, no one decides to them.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 December 2012 16: 45
      +6
      Quote: basal
      and live for themselves, live, no one decree to them.

      More precisely it will be -and live themselves -thrive !!!
    2. zol1
      zol1 12 December 2012 20: 07
      +3
      Except for Russians, no one can step on the same rake more than once! Well, the Chinese are much wiser in comparison with us, so they create without destroying! And our slogan prevails: "... we will destroy to the ground, and then ..."
  9. rennim
    rennim 12 December 2012 16: 42
    +6
    Then I was 16 years old .... and even then I did not doubt the need to restore order and remove Yeltsin and Gorbachev ... Even more, I was glad that the authorities finally decided to restore order and throw these traitors ...
  10. GSH-18
    GSH-18 12 December 2012 16: 43
    +3
    It’s a direct confession of the protester ... However, machine tools, bread and weapons are not produced at rallies. The author missed the muddy nineties, in our time he is bored of living, does not know where and how to apply his energy.
    What is constantly with you, at first ceases to be appreciated, then noticed, and then some begins to annoy. This is me about all the "boring" state of stability belay Yes, a stable state differs from a transitional one in that each person must find his place in life. The author of the article clearly does not succeed, hence all his dissatisfaction. There is no such state in the world, so that there is no bureaucracy, theft, etc. etc. All of humanity has not yet reached this point. And we have a state that we deserve. I really hope that it will do without revolutions. I want my children and yours to grow up in a calm and methodically developing country. yes
    1. kulpin
      kulpin 12 December 2012 20: 08
      +1
      Quote: GSH-18
      I really hope that it will do without revolutions. I want my children and yours to grow up in a calm and methodically developing country.

      Do you hope to sit out in the promised quiet whirlpool? The author just says that there will not be enough "whirlpools" for everyone. Do you remember how Madame Boehner effectively exclaimed from the rostrum: "We won't sell for a piece of boiled sausage !!!!"? Indeed, THEY sold for completely different amounts. But our politically illiterate doctors, teachers and engineers did not have enough intelligence that they (doctors, teachers and engineers) were not included in the number of these "WE".
    2. vovan1949
      vovan1949 12 December 2012 20: 09
      +3
      "I really hope that there will be no revolutions"
      Hoping is not harmful. We hope for 20 years.
      And before they said differently: - "It is better to die while standing than to live on your knees."
  11. reading
    reading 12 December 2012 16: 46
    +3
    The personal tragedy of a person is stated. Sorry for him. But why call for revolution again (sorry, for rebellion). To amuse your unrecognized heroic ambitions? Death is red in the world. And try to remain human in the "hated" stability. There are enough "Fathers Gapons" in Russian history, why lead people to the slaughter - you yourself will perish (a hero, of course, but a fool), and if you stay alive - a scoundrel and a provocateur. I hope people have grown wiser and all sorts of "Swamp" do not see in pink glasses. Use your constitutional right in municipal elections (where you and your family live), and not in gangways, where bawlers are popular, and no one ever hears intellectuals (and they don’t go there). Happy Constitution Day, everyone.
    1. kulpin
      kulpin 12 December 2012 20: 11
      +1
      Quote: reading
      All with Constitution Day.

      This, God forgive me, with what? With a fig leaf?
    2. vovan1949
      vovan1949 12 December 2012 20: 14
      +1
      This is probably not a color revolution. Everything is clear there, some gentlemen want to take power from other gentlemen. A revolution, which in general will sweep away the power of any masters. Experience, maybe not the most successful, is.
  12. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 12 December 2012 16: 55
    +2
    they wanted the best, but it turned out .... yes, it is not clear when it comes to economics and agriculture when we reach 1991, I am silent about the people ... we are dying ((((
  13. pogis
    pogis 12 December 2012 16: 55
    +13
    Borya was supported because the whole Soviet people hated the humpback (I remembered 21 then). He and I went to work on the tram, and they threw him from the bridge with a bag on his head! But when they asked Yu.NIKULIN on the miracle field he was xnumx he answered
    I AM THE ONLY WHO WASN'T NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE !!!!!
    He was a great artist and man! They don’t do such things now ......
    1. not good
      not good 12 December 2012 17: 42
      +5
      It was necessary to tie the bag more tightly and to the grate ... am
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 12 December 2012 18: 35
        -12
        Quote: Negoro
        It was necessary to tie the bag tighter and grate to the legs ..

        You can minus me, But I remember well the 90s. Yes, Yeltsin made many mistakes and miscalculations then, but I don’t think that in that situation someone would have done much better! Thanks to him, we live in the Russian Federation and not in the Moscow province. Then the question was about preserving the Russian state. Yeltsin ensured the succession of the state course, thanks to which the current Russian Federation differs from the Russian model of the 90s like heaven and earth! I just do not like it when a person is poured mud for his mistakes, forgetting about his positive and timely actions and deeds.
        1. kulpin
          kulpin 12 December 2012 20: 13
          +3
          I will not minus, because I’m not minus anyone. But I state: you are a fool, brother.
        2. vovan1949
          vovan1949 12 December 2012 20: 25
          +2
          1. "Then the question was about the preservation of the Russian state."
          And who, then, with such stubbornness felled this Russian state as part of the USSR, if not with a bunch of like-minded people?
          2. "Yeltsin ensured the continuity of the state course, thanks to which the current RF differs from the RF of the 90s model like heaven and earth!"
          I read it 6 times and did not understand anything. If this alcoholic "ensured the continuity of the state policy," then why "the current Russian Federation differs from the Russian model of the 90s like heaven and earth!" What kind of continuity is this?
        3. Vladimir 70
          Vladimir 70 12 December 2012 20: 41
          +6
          You can minus me, But I remember well the 90s. Yes, Yeltsin made many mistakes and miscalculations then, but I don’t think that in that situation someone would have done much better! Thanks to him, we live in the Russian Federation and not in the Moscow province. Then the question was about preserving the Russian state.
          Do you really think that you live in the Russian Federation, and not in the Moscow province thanks to the drunk EBN? If this horse had "ruled" Russia for at least a couple of more years, then the country would have remained, at best, the Moscow province.
        4. Soldier
          Soldier 13 December 2012 08: 48
          +2
          I won’t pass, but what kind of continuity is it about? I want to live in the SOVIET UNION, where I was born. And about the positive and timely actions, you ask the guys who were in Grozny in 1995 or were those who stayed there. There was Afghanistan during the Union, but no one is Brezhnev’s bonfire !!! PS And, in general, one of the reasons why I went to the Armed Forces in the very 90s, because I thought that everything was fairer and more correct there than among the bulls and prostitutes under the supervision of the Glavpakhan EBN, in civilian life. And still I don’t regret my choice
        5. Che
          Che 13 December 2012 08: 49
          +2
          GSH-18,
          EBN had no mistakes, he conducted purposeful work to destroy Russia. It is necessary to demolish his monument in the Urals. This is the enemy of the motherland, along with Gorby.
  14. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 12 December 2012 17: 07
    +6
    I respect Yazov D.T. He did not give the order to shoot, but he could. The man was decisive. He did not cross his conscience like Yeltsin. Although, if I gave ....
    1. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 12 December 2012 17: 15
      +12
      I respect Yazov D.T. He did not give the order to shoot, but he could. The man was decisive. Although, if I gave ....
      And, you didn’t think about it, if Yazov had given the order, so many non-guilty people throughout the former USSR would not have perished since the Caucasus and ending with Transnistria ...
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 12 December 2012 19: 56
        +7
        Vladimir 70,
        People with a core and rooting for the country would have cost less blood in the GKChP. Amer with rats worked wonderfully well.
    2. pogis
      pogis 12 December 2012 17: 17
      +4
      Where did you get it? ALPHA was ready, but at the meeting, the L / C decided not to shoot at her people! The Army made a similar decision. But not all! And they shot and BMP-1 PRESSED.
    3. Oprichnik
      Oprichnik 12 December 2012 18: 29
      +12
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      I respect Yazov D.T. He did not give the order to shoot, but he could. The man was decisive. He did not cross his conscience like Yeltsin. Although, if I gave ....


      If, in February 1917, the command of the Petrograd garrison had not calmed down and crushed a riot in the bud, having shot 300 women, about 50 million deaths would have survived in the following decades (not counting the unborn), and the Russian Empire would have stood still.

      If Marshal Yazov (I remember his penitential interview on TV about his membership in the State Emergency Committee, but after his release - "Old I do.rak ...") then decided to open fire on the crowd, the USSR most likely would not have collapsed.

      The worst thing is when, at the turning points of history, power falls into the hands of spineless squabbles. The duty must be fulfilled to the end, without snot and moral torment. First, do it, and then at least shoot yourself if the "bloody boys in the eyes" appear.

      I will never forgive myself for being in the barracks in '91 and waiting for an order instead of raising my company, reaching Moscow and knocking everyone out in a row - until the brain is completely cleared. So if a second chance comes up, I won’t breed pink snot. Enough, already learned.
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 12 December 2012 19: 59
        +5
        Oprichnik,
        +++ By the way, Assad’s example for our litter, a man is fighting for his country, destroying a rat tribe.
      2. predator.3
        predator.3 12 December 2012 20: 34
        +4
        So the Chinese on Tanyanming laid their Democrats in piles, and nothing, but now ahead of the rest!
      3. Kortik
        Kortik 12 December 2012 22: 52
        +2
        This is what the words of a real peasant are felt. I have exactly the same opinion.
      4. Papakiko
        Papakiko 12 December 2012 23: 06
        -5
        What ZhZHZH so eagerly for blood !?
        The country was merged by the elders from the Politburo. bully
        The rest are pieces on the chessboard of political life. hi
  15. pogis
    pogis 12 December 2012 17: 08
    +5
    I remember in 1989 in Kharkov on the fence an inscription
    -Uncle Misha Aunt Paradise, give sugar for tea!
    1. Odessa
      Odessa 12 December 2012 18: 26
      +1
      pogis,
      I remember in 1989 in Kharkov on the fence an inscription
      -Uncle Misha Aunt Paradise, give sugar for tea!

      And yet, Russia rushes three, Bear, Raika, Perestroika.

      And about Chernobyl-A Ivan is a bad tractor, concreting the reactor.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 12 December 2012 18: 43
      +1
      Quote: pogis
      I remember in 1989 in Kharkov on the fence an inscription
      -Uncle Misha Aunt Paradise, give sugar for tea!

      Aha laughing And our big round badges were sold with the image of a mouse's face and the inscription - "Who ate the sugar?"
  16. peter-tank
    peter-tank 12 December 2012 17: 09
    -1
    We then (on Sakhalin) half-jokingly asked each other: "Where were you on the night of August 19-22?"
  17. Nechai
    Nechai 12 December 2012 17: 12
    +2
    Quote: SSR
    in which Khasbulatov said just the opposite that EBNu and KO under a hundred advisers from America sent.

    That's right. After the auction, where the monopsonist (Monopsony is the opposite of monopoly, when there is only one buyer on the market) was the State Department, and both parties rolled out proposals. So, having chosen a MORE preferred SELLER (by the way), they began to help. Yes, and not only from the USA there were helpers, but also from the southern very hot country, sniping pros visited. About them, who was the first representative of the President of the Russian Federation in the State Duma? That's right - Katenkov his last name - and ask him. And before these events, the All-Russian Union of War Veterans of Afghanistan headed.
    Quote: igor36
    and then they removed the political leader of the regiment who read the appeal of the State Emergency Committee.

    In Chernorechye, now the village of Roshchinsky, they instructed to read out these things to the political officer of the communications battalion. Well, then the CRIMINAL CASE was brought against him by the military prosecutor's office. They didn’t judge, but the academy was a fig. Career stop!
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 12 December 2012 18: 49
      -2
      Quote: Nechai
      in which Khasbulatov spoke

      Khasbulatov said! .. Yes, this scum has his hands to the elbows in the blood of our soldiers, whom he betrayed to the Chechens! I handed over all materials to the enemy.
      And you quote him here, about some hundreds of mythical advisers from America negative
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 12 December 2012 20: 02
        +4
        GSH-18,
        Khazbulatov may also be a bug, but advisers and snipers were present. Amer worked tirelessly.
  18. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 12 December 2012 17: 16
    0
    In 1991, it was too late to push something there, it was necessary to push much earlier ...
    1. pogis
      pogis 12 December 2012 17: 19
      +10
      Gorbachev in the Maternity Hospital!
  19. predator.3
    predator.3 12 December 2012 17: 19
    +9
    Yes, dear Muscovites broke firewood in August 1991, which until now, the country cannot recover! It would be better if we were sitting at home! fool
    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko 12 December 2012 23: 12
      -2
      So they are unknowingly crying
      300 years earlier, the Romanovs were also "accidentally" elevated to the throne. winked
      The capital must be returned to the original Russian place-Yaroslavl. good
      And everything will become even in Mother Russia.
      1. vlad_pr
        vlad_pr 13 December 2012 11: 17
        0
        PapakikoHowever, my friend, tie up with fly agaric and soil-home-serving ideas. Not constructively. Realities are what they are and cannot be changed. The Maskavites did misfortune, but to correct the consequences of this idiocy, to Us, citizens of the Russian Federation.
        Sincerely.
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 14 December 2012 20: 06
        +1
        Papakiko,
        And what is the idea. Moscow is very swollen and honestly lives beyond its means.
  20. toguns
    toguns 12 December 2012 17: 19
    +4
    And under Stalin, this was not (s).
    ps
    but in essence, well done (not idots, this is too literary, but "assholes" is a more correct and true word) pissed away the country a second time, transferring power to shitcrats, this transfer of power to the country is still hiccuped.
    1. not good
      not good 12 December 2012 17: 49
      +6
      Both under Stalin, and under Khrushchev, and under Brezhnev There were several unauthorized rallies and all were very harshly suppressed. It was just that the country's leadership was harsher, and not like Gorbachev soft and smelly.
  21. Captain ata
    Captain ata 12 December 2012 17: 20
    0
    God grant that we quickly wake up from the "mutton" psychology, otherwise it’s a pleasure to shear sheep, or shake off fatty fat from pigs.
  22. Begemot
    Begemot 12 December 2012 17: 26
    +4
    I remember both coups very well, in 91 I was driving from another city at night, there is an armored personnel carrier at the traffic police post, soldiers in armored vehicles with machine guns. They stopped, searched the car, checked the documents, drove to the checkpoint and released only an hour later. It was really scary to walk at gunpoint. Information - zero. Only when Maxim Sokolov on 19.08 issued the phrase: "the putschists are wasting their time" did it become clear that the putsch was ending. In 93, the White House even got me, living in the provinces, with its unlimited powers and complete clowning. And the fact that both me and the author of the article saw the fruits of the revolution of the early 90s in a completely different way is the most ordinary phenomenon called naivety, only this understanding comes with age. Never in history have the fruits of the revolution been enjoyed by its romantic makers; there have always been crooks who appropriated these fruits. So I don’t share the yearning for revolutions and irritation from stability.
    1. berserk1967
      berserk1967 12 December 2012 17: 39
      +1
      Totally agree!
    2. Alekseir162
      Alekseir162 12 December 2012 18: 04
      +1
      I agree with you Sergey.
  23. Roomata
    Roomata 12 December 2012 17: 28
    0
    You won’t return what has already gone and there will be no similar
  24. berserk1967
    berserk1967 12 December 2012 17: 28
    -7
    To be honest, the first coup was carried out in 1917 by the Bolsheviks, skillfully manipulating the mass of the people promising him that which he had finally taken away - freedom, freedom of choice where to live and how to live, freedom to choose people in power, and finally freedom choose what to buy in stores.
    The only equality in the country was the universal equality of poverty. But only party nomenclature lived well.
  25. Sinbad
    Sinbad 12 December 2012 17: 48
    +1
    Beautiful reasoning: what would have happened in this case, and if it had happened differently, etc., etc. Nothing would change anyway. All that was was a well-directed performance. And we needed a performance to let the "steam" out of the people, because the people "hummed" like high-voltage wires and could explode and the untouchables could suffer, since there is nothing worse than the Russian revolt "Senseless and merciless."
  26. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov 12 December 2012 17: 48
    +11
    Russia needs stability, not shocks .... There will be stability, there will be Great Russia .... Personally, I regret all the events in our territory since Gorbachev came to power .... If you knew how I feel bad Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Gaidar, Sobchak, Chubais, Shakhrai, Bakatin, Medvedev, Dvorkovich, Serdyukov, Skrynnik and many other followers of perestroika and the advancement of Western democracy .... So bad, so bad that it even gets scary ... Is it really me ???
    1. vovan1949
      vovan1949 12 December 2012 20: 49
      +3
      No, this is WE. And we are millions, we are the absolute majority
    2. military
      military 13 December 2012 15: 24
      +1
      Quote: Gorchakov
      Russia needs stability, not shocks ... If you knew how bad I feel about Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Gaidar, Sobchak, Chubais, Shakhrai, Bakatin, Medvedev, Dvorkovich, Serdyukov, Skrynnik and many others

      as I understand it, the personification of stability is Putin, right? ... winked all the last 12 years ... a kind of lone hero, forever "one of the strangers" ... well, well drinks
      answering the author’s question ... rather, patriotic idiots (hurray patriots) ... request
  27. baskoy
    baskoy 12 December 2012 17: 58
    +3
    The road to "Paradise" leads through "Purgatory" and not otherwise. The West tried to get in through the back door ... now it blooms and smells (Sodom and Gomorrah - and will end the same). We have not "stability", but the ripening of a huge abscess, and when it bursts (which is inevitable), Great October will seem like a small speck on the nose.
  28. not good
    not good 12 December 2012 17: 58
    +8
    Unfortunately, the GKChP simply didn’t have the will to win. It seems that Genghis Khan said: “If you’re afraid, don’t do it, don’t be afraid. Yes, and Ilyich, the deceased, in his works wrote the theory of the uprising like clockwork and tested it in practice. - doubles.
  29. tank64rus
    tank64rus 12 December 2012 18: 11
    0
    How many victims Russia has brought, and even bring for this idiocy.
  30. zemlyak
    zemlyak 12 December 2012 18: 15
    +5
    Quote: berserk1967
    To be frank, the first coup was carried out in 1917 by the Bolsheviks
    As far as I remember, the first coup took place in February 1917, the so-called bourgeois-democratic revolution. The February revolution resulted in the abdication of Tsar Nicholas II, the termination of the Romanov dynasty and the formation of the first Provisional Government. In a strange way, now no one remembers or does not want to remember this event, everyone decided to blame the damned Bolsheviks.
  31. Sergg
    Sergg 12 December 2012 18: 21
    +1
    Russia needs not only stability. Russia needs a single people.
    Unfortunately, we do not have this unity yet.
  32. Lexagun
    Lexagun 12 December 2012 18: 27
    +1
    "idiots" sincerely or not really considering themselves "patriots"
    None of the opposing sides was patriotic in terms of goals and objectives that could be resolved once in power, although all used rhetoric with a patriotic color and declared "care for the state and citizens."
  33. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 12 December 2012 18: 44
    +4
    It’s a pity that Yeltsin wasn’t shot or drunk then. It would have been better to have sat drinking before losing his pulse. Probably there wasn’t enough vodka, so he got on the tank as soon as he slipped? I am very pleased that his grave was crushed by such a block and in Yekaterinburg the monument was obli ... .. I repeat, but until the end of my days I will not forgive Sevastopol and the Black Sea Fleet that he drank.
  34. sesame
    sesame 12 December 2012 19: 13
    +4
    Chewing snot. Now I realized what I had done in 91 and was trying to make excuses to myself, and at the same time to appear as a hero in front of us.
  35. I. Brovkin
    I. Brovkin 12 December 2012 19: 45
    +1
    Yes! If those who supported Yeltsin in the same were told what awaited them in the future, then no one would have believed this for sure.
  36. polly
    polly 12 December 2012 20: 12
    +4
    Alexander Roslyakov - a minus!. If stability in the country causes nausea, then immediately take the vomit and go to Bolotnaya, that's where the call for the third putsch will be heard and supported. Why do we need to listen again to people who, allegedly repenting, calling themselves an idiot, etc., write beautiful articles and do their dirty deed again? A pure dream that was defended ... the author compares himself with the Decembrists ... Excuse me, I tell you I don't believe it, the gentlemen just chose a different tactic! "Marches of Millions" do not help - and "Carthage must be destroyed", right? A provocative article, albeit a poetic one: there are words about the stars that people look at with hope! Just a tear breaks through ...
  37. Karabin
    Karabin 12 December 2012 20: 21
    +1
    The people rejected the very idea of ​​any battle for their rights, having seen twice that on its field, stained with the blood of useless victims, rascals continue to flourish.

    Therefore, now with all the trampling of all divine and human laws, this “stability” reigns in our country, a synonymous loss of that fundamental principle, without which a nation is no longer a nation, but a prophetic, and even more often not even native shepherds, a herd.

    I support what has been said. And no matter how I would like, but I will have to tear my asses out of the heat. Stability mixed with dishonesty, making dough at any cost, substitution of values, selling the country wholesale and retail will inevitably lead the power to revolution. Whether it is velvet or bloody depends on many factors.
  38. sashka
    sashka 12 December 2012 20: 47
    +2
    Quote: Gorchakov
    Russia needs stability, not shocks ...

    Stupidity, by definition .. Stability in WHAT .. In theft?
  39. mazdie
    mazdie 12 December 2012 20: 50
    +1
    Cheated PEOPLE !!!
  40. bubla5
    bubla5 12 December 2012 21: 12
    +3
    The USSR was born in St. Petersburg, and in Moscow they finished it, and then drank it, that's all
  41. sergeybulkin
    sergeybulkin 12 December 2012 21: 54
    -12
    At first I was very upset that the USSR was destroyed. But many years passed and it became clear - there is a lot of positive in this. From the body of a large healthy country, a lot of small and very sick oiled. Those who then separated gave Russia a great gift. Thanks to them for that!
  42. VikVik741
    VikVik741 12 December 2012 23: 43
    +4
    I didn't even read to the end, it became disgusting. "... Well, damn it with Lenin on a subbotnik, a log, carried, strained, sweated! But, damn it, after the labors of the righteous, I left for a smoke, and the arctic fox, it turns out, were not even close crying , well, where, damn it, justice .... "It's just that UGGS first killed the Russian Empire in St. Petersburg, okay, the Union remained, it was okay, but no, it’s not enough ... then you have to finish him off in Moscow to lick your ass with relish" civilized countries "! Moreover, they also organized a holiday for themselves" Independence Day "! Only at least someone will say, but on whom did you depend until this day? What the hell is now to pour all these tears, one of these IDIOTS .... Meaning?
  43. 1goose3
    1goose3 12 December 2012 23: 57
    +2
    In troubled times, the role of personality is great. And among the top leadership of the USSR there was no strong personality. I don’t want to talk about Gorbachev, in a word, Judas. It seems that there were people who understood that it was necessary to stop the collapse process, they called themselves GKChP. But even among them there was no leader. Gathered, decided, the crowd made a loud statement and all. To go further, one of them should have taken the lead, and they .... In general, saying And they ran out of breath, B was already missing them. And then what happened was described including and in this article.
    It is ridiculous to listen to statements that if it were not for Yeltsin, everything would have been worse. This reminds of an old anecdote: "They bury a preference player who got a steam locomotive and died of a broken heart. His partners in the game follow the coffin and argue that if he (the deceased) hadn't taken a nine, he would have been even worse." So after Yeltsin, how much worse is that?
  44. wax
    wax 13 December 2012 00: 31
    +2
    He started so movingly, admitted an involuntary mistake, and ended up with a conscious call to repeat again ... the putsch. Will not be too much?
    As for those who desired 100 varieties of sausage and two Volga, they got what they wanted. Now is the time for redemption. "... destroy to the ground, and then we are ours, we will build a new world ..."?
  45. Aryan
    Aryan 13 December 2012 02: 07
    0
    No need to make noise! stop
    everything was right:
    they defended one white house,
    other other white house laughing
  46. wax
    wax 13 December 2012 02: 36
    +1
    “Oh, Russia! With a difficult fate, the country.
    I have you, Russia, as a heart, alone.
    I’ll tell my friend, I’ll tell my enemy
    I can’t live without you, as without a heart! ”

    Julia Drunina.
    Seventeen years in 1941 volunteered for the front.
    In August 1991, she rushed to defend the White House.
    November 20, 1991 committed suicide.

    “How Russia flies downhill,
    I can’t, I don’t want to watch! ”
  47. bart74
    bart74 13 December 2012 02: 38
    0
    I admit honestly brothers. Syphilitics and haemo movers are in any coup! Guys listen to LYS!
  48. Amur
    Amur 13 December 2012 05: 06
    +2
    At that time I thought that Gorbachev was the guarantor of the USSR, but he turned out to be .... "a bear with an order" who destroyed his house, his country - how is he not ashamed to go out on the street, a Nobel laureate.

    It's a shame that in the 91st I was cynically used not only by amers, but by their own leaders, whom I believed. Gorbachev’s meeting will spit in his wake.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 13 December 2012 05: 25
      +2
      Quote: Amur
      how embarrassing he is to go out into the street, the Nobel laureate.

      Looking at which street to go on. Strasse or street, even an honor
    2. ADEQUATE
      ADEQUATE 13 December 2012 11: 18
      +1
      Better not after but in the face !!!
  49. I-16M
    I-16M 13 December 2012 05: 19
    +2
    Under 1991, the west and the 5th column smoothly let us down.
    1991 was a deception for the people, a disaster for the state, a black date in the history of Russia.
    Many of those "defenders of the white house" repented back in the early 90s.
    And blame the traitors who prepared the destruction of the USSR and the leadership of the "power departments" who did not prevent the coup.
  50. sashka
    sashka 13 December 2012 05: 46
    +2
    Quote: rennim
    .Even more, I was glad that the authorities finally decided to restore order and throw out these traitors ...

    What is now easier ?? And what has changed .. Thieves are thieves. But they don’t know the other one .. Is this a thief making a plane ?? Weak ??