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"Russia will never create anything of value"

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The United States will continue to remain the undisputed leader in the economy, the famous Swedish economist believes

The common assumption that the world is changing and global economic leadership is gradually moving from the United States to China and a number of other actively developing countries is wrong. This conclusion was made in a Die Presse interview by the famous Swedish economist and author of the book Funky Business, Kjell Nordström.

In his opinion, the United States will continue to remain the undisputed leader in the economy, because an immigrant visiting this country can become an American for several years already, even if he does not speak English perfectly. “The rules of American companies are such that it doesn’t matter to them where they come from. For example, they always have a dress code that you can read about, often with illustrations,” said Nordstrom in an interview. “Success is also assessed very formally. we know what they want from you and what you have achieved. And these scales are the same for everyone: men, women, Americans, foreigners. They don’t care if you are a Muslim or a lesbian: if you are a good worker, you are with us. "

That is, in the United States, they simply create the conditions most favorable for young and most promising personnel from around the world to choose this country as their place of work. The best students, according to Nordstrom, leave not so much on someone else's recommendation, but themselves. So, 40% of them study abroad for a year, and American universities offer the best of them to stay.

"For ten years or so, Europe exported about 500 thousands of people with university education to the United States," the economist recalled that in itself is a big problem for Europe itself. "For example, our firms do not so well treat those who came from India. Many graduates would like to work for Siemens, but in order to make a career there, starting from a certain level, you need to know German very well. Therefore, they go to competitors. "

In order to keep up and develop on a par with the United States, according to Nordstrom, Europe needs to increase its attractiveness, in particular, to ensure various freedoms, in particular, freedom of movement. “So that the Austrian could become a member of the Swedish parliament. Not only in theory, but also in practice,” the economist said in an interview.

As for the widespread view that the future today belongs to China, India or Brazil, here Nordstrom pointed to visible limitations. China is a closed society with a four-thousand-year-old culture and, moreover, a brutal dictatorship that is incompatible with the type of inventor from Silicon Valley.

He does not feel any illusions about our country. "Russia, too, will never create anything of value. This is the price that a country pays for centralized management. Only open, liberal, democratic societies can create something meaningful. China can create cheap products, simple things, but it’s not a leader in the development of new products become ", - explained the Swedish economist.

Also, according to him, judging by what is happening in Russia, in this country, even with economic freedom, it is difficult to consolidate democratic foundations. "We need a working parliament and an effective police apparatus. Otherwise, it will not be business, but the Mafia." As for China, liberalization takes place here, but it is being advanced in such small steps that "neither you nor I will see democratic China in my life," the economist concluded.

Enough simply commented on Nordstrom and the conventional wisdom about the impending end of capitalism. He explained the search for alternative systems by the fact that "on the other side the grass is always greener."

It must be admitted that the version of Nordstrom goes against the opinion of the majority of experts who prophesy serious changes in the composition of the actors on the world economic Olympus. However, all the arguments cited by the Swedish economist are quite logical and fully confirmed by life practice. Indeed, youth and intellect, which are the basis of any developmental process, tend to where there is a certain level of freedoms and prospects are clearly traced. So far, the liberal model, which is most fully represented in the United States, has no serious competitors in this regard. So, it seems premature to speak about the imminent change of leaders of global development.
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  1. Veter
    Veter 12 December 2012 06: 23
    +15
    Another Tolerast ... Well, the Swedes would not be buzzing, the innovators are bad
    1. sv-sakh
      sv-sakh 12 December 2012 06: 26
      +34
      Well, quite a normal position of a blind liberal gayropeian capable of saying that "Only open, liberal, democratic societies can create something efficient ...", and when asked "Was there liberal democracy in the USSR ???" and "Wasn't the USSR ahead of the rest of the planet in all fields of science and technology ???" the galaxy.

      By the way, not wanting to hear any arguments other than those that they themselves say on someone’s patterns is a hallmark of all liberals.
      1. alexng
        alexng 12 December 2012 06: 35
        +3
        I can’t understand Russia with my mind., Especially if you look at it from a European bag.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 December 2012 07: 55
          +11
          Quote: alexneg
          I can’t understand Russia with my mind.

          Look at his face and you will understand that there is no mind as such. An ordinary Swede for whom the USA is a standard of development, we have a couple of them on the site.
          1. carver
            carver 12 December 2012 10: 50
            +3
            Alexander Romanov,

            Well, I don’t know at once in him the representative of LGBT people or how I saw this indiscriminacy of the patient, even raised my eyebrows and let down my lips and painted ....
            1. alexng
              alexng 12 December 2012 12: 43
              +4
              How not to recall the classic.
              From the works of Nekrasov, the peasants learned how badly they were living ...
              1. Crocus
                Crocus 12 December 2012 13: 55
                +4
                What kind of democracy is there in Europe or America, what kind of freedom? .. If any corporation is essentially a dictatorship, moreover hereditary! No matter how brainy a student who has remained in America has worked hard, he will not become a rockefeller! They have enough of their own, and they only need slaves ...
                1. crazyrom
                  crazyrom 12 December 2012 15: 31
                  +2
                  Why even post stupid Euro-p * dora arguments on this site? To make people angry? I do not understand. There you know, there are a lot of all kinds of Tolerasts, and each in his own way blasphemes Russia, so now publish all this here?
        2. Ustas
          Ustas 12 December 2012 08: 41
          +3
          Quote: alexneg
          I can’t understand Russia with my mind.

          Duc from where the Swede has his mind, Peter near Poltava knocked him out.
        3. askort154
          askort154 12 December 2012 10: 35
          +6
          Old-fashioned Swedish-Baltic-Polish, frenzied, Russophobia.
          1. alexng
            alexng 12 December 2012 12: 46
            0
            Yes, there were people in this time, not like the current tribe. The Swedes were knocked out for a long time, if not forever. So what about the mind of a Swede, I got excited.
            1. mda
              mda 12 December 2012 15: 04
              0
              Quote: alexneg
              The Swedes were knocked out for a long time, if not forever.

              It’s necessary to add that brains never come back
        4. Kaa
          Kaa 12 December 2012 11: 22
          +8
          Quote: alexneg
          I can’t understand Russia with my mind

          All of them (Europeans) are well aware that this opus is exclusively for the Russian audience. At home, they howl differently from hopelessness:
          “The economic consequences of World War II were certainly very serious both for Europe and for the whole world. Agricultural production began to decline, and food was stockpiled for speculative purposes. Property suffered significant damage, bridges and roads were destroyed or experienced increased There were practically no reserves of rare currencies (mostly dollars or pounds sterling), and European investments in the United States and in the territory of the British Empire were often nationalized. What could Europe have to pay for imports, if not the gold reserves of its central banks? All this led to agreements based on clearing or, in other words, barter. All economic actors pounced on the goods necessary to restore the country: agricultural raw materials, cement, steel, energy and machinery. All this could only be found in the United States ... European gold flowed into the hands of the United States, which became the owner of almost all world reserves. The dollar became the real king of all currencies, because it could be freely exchanged for gold until 1971. In addition, in the United States (and partly in Germany) were the most modern means of production. Technological innovations came from the United States and Britain (to a lesser extent Germany). Mass production has transformed industry and society in America. The demand was such that economic recovery led to prosperity from the 1950s to the 1970s. In short, the consequences of the war pushed industrialized states to create institutions of monetary and economic regulation (the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade) as well as European organizations such as the European Payments Union, and later the European Economic Community and a single currency. At the end of the war, growth prospects were quite significant, whereas today they are very weak. Including in the USA, which support growth through the expansionist monetary policy. Neither growth, nor war, nor assets - we are in such a situation today. In such conditions, we have only very few possible solutions. Inflation may be the only possible option. The measures taken at the national level have also been superimposed by a powerful external stimulus: the US Marshall Plan (1948-1951), under which assistance on various conditions was provided to 17 European countries. Today there is nothing of the kind. Besides, one more important point is missing now: the great idea of ​​social development and well-being, the idea of ​​modernization, which undoubtedly stood in the foreground in 1945. The current crisis did not allow a clear definition of what a new, “modern” economy should be. In 1945, modernizers strove for mass industrialization, which was supposed to ensure the widespread production of equipment and consumer goods. The current crisis requires a change in the economic and cultural paradigm. Moreover, unlike in 1945, the doctrine of capitalist development itself remains unchanged! Our contemporaries do not know what they are going to Original publication: Sommes-nous aujourd'hui dans une situation économique pire qu'au sortir de la Seconde Guerre mondiale? "" Atlantico ", France"
          Опубликовано: 11/12/2012 18:35
          http://www.inosmi.ru/europe/20121212/203252493.html#ixzz2EosAelF6
          1. DmitriRazumov
            DmitriRazumov 12 December 2012 16: 04
            +4
            Something very similar to a leaflet for fulfilling the tasks of an information war in a barracks. It is rude and unworthy not only of a professor-economist, but also of a person with a higher education. With the naked eye you can see that people. never worked in any transnational or American company. I know from my own experience (9 years of work at Siemens) that most Europeans (Germans) take Russia and business in Russia very seriously. Many of them do not want to leave for Germany after the expiration of the contract for positions in Russian units. Some find themselves as managers of large Russian IT and other companies. Discrimination against foreigners exists not only in Europe, but also in the USA to the fullest. Nobody needs young energetic competitors. apply for higher posts and salaries. In German companies, behind-the-scenes workers like these who have come to Vaterland for free are “pinched” as they can (especially they do not like Jews). But officially everything is in order - equality and all that. Some of my classmates after leaving the Armed Forces (collapse in the 90s) emigrated to the United States and created an engineering and programming office there. So no one wanted to deal with the Russians. I had to hire amerikos as a director to somehow conduct business. By the way, the majority of Americans have long believed that they need to move their brains, work as programmers, engineers, etc. - This is not their business. For them, the focus is on professions such as a lawyer, at worst, a manager of something there. Therefore, of course, highly intellectual immigration is the only source of brains for them at the present time. I recommend everyone to see the link about the "rich and successful Americans", which is called firsthand.
            http://rublogers.ru/2012/11/22/poznavatelnoetv-kak-zhive776t-amerika.html
          2. sintur
            sintur 25 December 2012 18: 56
            0
            The problem is not that the Swede wrote, but that it really will be. But nothing good will come first of all for Europe, the USA will fly to us, but it doesn’t hurt so much. We did not see prosperity and it does not hurt to fall into poverty again. We are used to everything.
        5. Captain45
          Captain45 13 December 2012 16: 37
          0
          Quote: alexneg
          I can’t understand Russia with my mind.,

          They cannot forgive us everything for Poltava and Gangut. What can we take from them? If the expression "Swedish family" has become synonymous with debauchery, sodomy, lesbianism and other sexual deviations.
      2. Veter
        Veter 12 December 2012 06: 37
        +4
        sv-sakh
        All right. The next paid verbiage, trying to sow in the minds of our citizens the thought of the insolvency of our people, society, state. We know, passed ...
        1. predator.3
          predator.3 12 December 2012 07: 35
          +4
          Quote:] "Russia, too, will never create anything of value. This is the price the country pays for centralized government. Only open, liberal, democratic societies can create something useful. China can create cheap products, simple things, but a leader in the development of new products he will not become ", - explained the Swedish economist. [/ quote


          Oh, how disingenuous this Swede is, he forgot to say that this "centralized state" was the first to conquer space, built a network of hydroelectric power plants and nuclear power plants, etc.
          1. Bykov.
            Bykov. 12 December 2012 08: 44
            +5
            Quote: predator.3
            Oh, how disingenuous this Swede is, he forgot to say that this "centralized state" was the first to conquer space, built a network of hydroelectric power plants and nuclear power plants, etc.

            He simply does not consider it necessary to pay attention to such "little things" that are not yet pleasant to him, because of our authorship.
      3. viruskvartirus
        viruskvartirus 12 December 2012 10: 37
        +4
        A very big question about American liberalism and freedoms. If you recall how many cases of mass murder there were when the killer then shot himself, or how Detroit http://kulhazker.blog.tut.by/archives/553 breathes, or how Brzezinski says in an interview that most young people cannot show quiet on the map ocean.request .Not everything is okay in the Danish kingdom, not everything.
      4. Ross
        Ross 12 December 2012 11: 13
        +5
        sv-sakh,
        Hey guys! Sweden and Switzerland - the headquarters of the World backstage. What do you want from her? And those who are given the floor here, corresponding to status.
        1. Crocus
          Crocus 12 December 2012 14: 04
          +1
          Quote: Ross
          Hey guys! Sweden and Switzerland

          These countries are thieves raspberries, dens! They snapped at the wars, and now they give forecasts. And this particular guy, he knows what he’s doing, they pay well for this. You look and the tour of American universities will come off! ..
          Business - nothing personal! request
      5. neodymium
        neodymium 12 December 2012 13: 26
        +9
        About eggs and hens:
        In 1991, Japanese billionaire Heroshi Terawama, addressing Soviet economists: “You are not talking about the basics, about your leading role in the world. In 1939, you Russians were smart, and we Japanese were fools.
        In 1949, you became even smarter, and we were fools so far. And in 1955 we got smarter, and you turned into five-year-olds.
        Our entire economic system is almost completely copied from yours, with the only difference being that we have capitalism, private producers, and we never achieved more than 15% growth, while you, with public ownership of the means of production, reached 30% or more.In all of our firms hang your slogans of the Stalin era".

        About the economic growth rate, three times higher than the American:
        http://aftershock.su/?q=node/20043
        1. Crocus
          Crocus 12 December 2012 14: 11
          +2
          Quote: neodim
          . In all our companies your slogans of the Stalinist era are hanging "

          But now we have guimplen slogans; "drink, or you will dry up!", "rest in the Maldives" and "freedom is better than not freedom" ...
          Here is such a mutation ...
      6. Botanologist
        Botanologist 12 December 2012 15: 17
        +2
        As for the Swede - it seemed to me, or did he have his lips made up? One concern with these Swedes lol

        As for reasoning, it is a very simple attempt to replace the economic forecast with liberalistic values. I might believe that in America, any of himself a business stranger immediately becomes a manager if he had not seen the states with his own eyes. Entire quarters, where you should not even go in during the day. We went with the guys - stink, dirt, crowds of punks and healthy men are hanging around in the corners. They asked - but we don’t work horseradish, people? It’s not a Saturday day feel So no work. There is no medicine, housing is also not from the picture. Prostitution, racketeering, drugs. Car thefts, naturally. Blacks, B.L.
        We think - no, something is wrong. Our Russian migrants are clearly all in the business. We went to a restaurant where Russians hang out. Sadness! Half of the women do not work - there is no work, the men hold the hose through one at the gas stations. Or truckers. If they are proud of it, it is only that they have a "good credit history". Well, interest is paid on time.
        In short, just the Swedish dream in action!

        So, without any economic analysis, he made up his mind about the great liberistic achievements of migrants in equal Americanism.
        1. sintur
          sintur 25 December 2012 19: 04
          0
          It was so, but it will be much worse.
          The problem is not that the Swede wrote, but that it really will be. Everyone is silent about this and carry all crap. But there will be nothing good, first of all, for Europe and the USA, and it will fly to us, but it doesn’t hurt so much. We did not see prosperity and it does not hurt to fall into poverty again. We are used to everything.
    2. Bykov.
      Bykov. 12 December 2012 06: 52
      +1
      Quote: Veter
      Swedes wouldn’t hum, innovators are bad

      But what about the "Swedish family", ABBA? It must be objective, all the same
      1. orfo
        orfo 12 December 2012 07: 18
        +1
        They don't know what a "Swedish family" is, in your understanding. On this occasion, even the report was NTV seems.
        1. Bykov.
          Bykov. 12 December 2012 08: 38
          0
          Quote: orfo
          They don't know what a "Swedish family" is, in your understanding.

          Is it so bad?
          Our "lag", in this area, definitely pleases me.
    3. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 12 December 2012 07: 25
      +6
      Quote: Veter
      Another Tolerast ...


      Found someone to print! He has on the snout article 121 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR. As this is an unconventionally oriented mug in Russia, it is high time to allow their parades on Airborne Forces Day, so that the guys had someone to drown in fountains.
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 12 December 2012 17: 13
        0
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Article 121 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR

        Alas alas! The two biggest losses in the Criminal Code are the 58th and 121st, and how many mess around the world because of their absence ... request
    4. Blackscorp
      Blackscorp 12 December 2012 08: 07
      +3
      What is this Fontomas ???? Where did he come from? A long time ago I did not read such nonsense .... And this conclusion:

      However, all the arguments presented by the Swedish economist are quite logical and fully confirmed by life practice. Indeed, youth and intellect, which are the basis of any development process, tend to where a certain level of freedom exists and prospects are clearly traced. So far, the liberal model, most fully represented by all in the United States, has no serious competitors in this regard.


      Apparently the journalist "Utra" decided to show his "mind" ..... and showed stupidity .... The expression comes to mind: "It is better to be silent, let everyone think that you are stupid, than to open your mouth and dispel all doubts about it"
      1. Joker
        Joker 12 December 2012 14: 00
        -2
        Isn't that right, he said? We do not need young people, in large companies all the places are filled with old fart who also died for them. The incident in the Voronezh Constellation, the grandfather went to the dining room, fell and died, well, and what it will lead to, young specialists are not needed by anyone, nobody wants to train them, the same grandfathers pretend to be the most intelligent but young people do not want to learn, and so everywhere else , normal work can be found years to 27, as experience will be somewhere. And in the US, on the contrary, the old ones are not needed, young people are needed, already in the last year they conclude a contract with the employer and after graduation go to work for him, but what about us? I graduated from the institute and let's look for at least something with a normal income, isn't it? Do many now work by profession? In the US, an employer is interested in young specialists and he runs around the institutions looking for those who suit him, but we have the opposite, we run and look. With such an approach, in one generation, we will have all the plants and large companies, no one will work for them, simply because of their approach, training in specialties that they need is no longer honored, for managers are honored because you can get a job everywhere .
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 12 December 2012 15: 27
          +2
          Isn't he right to say?

          He said completely wrong. What, in Germany 33 of the year was an exemplary democracy? I don’t. Meanwhile, the technical revolution has broken all records.
          But in the USSR in the same period that freedom and self-expression flourished? not. But the country was not just walking - it was running ahead of scientific and technological progress.

          So do not confuse the speed of assimilation with the effectiveness of government.
          1. Joker
            Joker 12 December 2012 16: 18
            +1
            And here assimilation and democracy in Germany 33 year? Have you read the post to the end? I speak about the youth and its problems in finding employment.
        2. Ahmar
          Ahmar 12 December 2012 16: 33
          0
          Joker,
          yes brehlo he is another tolerastic
          by the way about China http://www.imperiya.by/news.html?id=101754
          1. Joker
            Joker 12 December 2012 17: 26
            +3
            Brehlo brehlom but there is in it all the right words. The Chinese have done great work, they have raised the economy at a tremendous pace, it remains only to envy. And they differ from us only in that they sell their products without extra charges in 300% as ours, and a little higher than the cost price, their salaries are the same as with us, i.e. we could well have gone their way, but no, our Jews would better make an 300% mark-up and would milk the people filling their pockets. That's all the difference, and so in reality everything is in 2-3 cheaper than they sell us, what kind of development can we talk about? The fact that we are now seeing GDP growth, so take into account inflation and reanimated and newly constructed state. companies, from here and the growth of GDP, there is no growth from private owners, and there will not be any, they are merging all profits to the west for banks. And in China, a mountain of state-owned companies that give all the profit to the country + try to cover there the income, shoot it and just do it laughing
    5. baltika-18
      baltika-18 12 December 2012 10: 37
      +3
      Quote: Veter
      Another Tolerast ... Well, the Swedes would not be buzzing, the innovators are bad

      I would say the globalist "six", which voices the thoughts of their masters.
    6. Joker
      Joker 12 December 2012 13: 50
      0
      Um ... Is he wrong? In my opinion, with the current approach, we certainly will never catch up with the United States. What large companies do we have? Yes, no, only Gazprom, and in the US there are many. I do not say that the story should be encouraged, I say that we have such a government. We have a nano-chubais and what did he do? For a long time, it was possible to create our own analogues of Samsung and others, it was possible to free the market for domestic producers, but no, we have 100% electronics on the foreign market, and now, due to joining the WTO, we will not get rid of them, because if ours make analogs, and they are worthy in quality, they will sell everything for the same money as foreign manufacturers, such are our bargains, that's why we need government in these areas. the manufacturer and the prices with the minimum wrap on the goods, then we would have developed, and now the entrepreneur works on the principle of buy it cheaper, resell more expensive, nobody produces anything. I can only give Kaspersky as an example, well, I’ve come up with the one who invented 1C, we no longer have normal entrepreneurs. And in the US there are thousands of them who open a business from scratch and work. We do not have this entrepreneurial streak, and the Americans have, I have already given an example, but I will give it again. Our Abramovich stole money and bought Chelsea, who earned income for him all the time only last year and a penny compared to how much he invests in it. And there is an American businessman, I don’t remember his last name, he, having a relatively small amount of money, took a huge loan from a bank and bought Manchester United FC, what did he do next? Yes, I just wrote off all my credit debts to the club. laughing now he raises money every season without debt, and the club pays his debt for it, then he sells the club and remains in a giant plus, and so the business is done competent wink and we can only steal request with this approach, I fully agree with the author Russia will never create anything of value Well, in terms of the economy, of course, so then we can create something valuable.
      1. nicht ferstehen
        nicht ferstehen 12 December 2012 15: 17
        0
        I support your opinion. The easiest way now is to hang labels like "tolerast", "slovobud", etc. In fact, now everything (including defense) is decided by science and high technologies. In order to reverse the negativity in this area, it is necessary to make it attractive for young personnel. And in this the author of the article is absolutely right. And how can a profession be attractive, for example a teacher with a salary of 7-12 tyr? And even if we assume that tomorrow investments in science, education, high technologies will increase several times (which is very doubtful), then the real return will begin in ten years.
        1. Joker
          Joker 12 December 2012 17: 09
          +1
          You know, I adhere to communist views in this regard; it seems to me that this is the best way to revive the economy. Those. the creation of large state-owned companies in all areas is the textile industry, food, consumer electronics, automotive is all a lot of money and income to the state, why give this market to private owners who can not do anything normal but push their bullshit at inflated prices, as an example now A huge number of clothing stores resell Chinese clothes at European prices or sew them in China and sell here, what is the benefit in this state? They do not pay taxes, do not create jobs, pricing is terrible, it is worth raising the income of citizens a little, as they immediately raise prices in 2, is that correct, in fact we are robbed out in the open and that’s it. Why not create, for example, huge textile factories, to make stores in which manufactured clothing will be sold, to make prices tied to inflation and the cost of the final product should not exceed 50% of all industrial costs, and distribute shares to these plants, factories, stores to all residents of Russia on whose taxes this all is built and the main directions of development, modernization would be decided by residents by voting on the Internet, and the leadership, taking into account the opinion of citizens, chose a further path. To the state from all this, 40% of profit, and the remaining 10% for modernization and development of production. Plus, citizens can put on quality clothing at prices lower than 2 times than market, new jobs, huge profits for the state. And so in all spheres and incomes expenses, salaries of companies should be clean and transparent and should be laid out in free access for all citizens of the country and any citizen can visit any factory and inspect it, how it works, see where the money goes and so on. that would exclude corruption in this area. Holders of shares can allocate a small profit from the factories, so that all people would be interested in the prosperity of these plants. If this is done in all areas, even with the current salary, we can improve the standard of living of an ordinary citizen in 2-3 so that prices for everything state will be significantly lower than those of private traders, plus there will be a small amount of money from companies' profits to citizens. Over time, push private traders out of the markets in general, leave some state. company. And neither Chinese consumer goods, nor American meat will be in the markets, everything will be its own at low prices and of excellent quality because the people themselves are the owners of the quality and quality themselves and will follow. Private entrepreneurs leave in the areas of entertainment, electronics, well, even if they are in the automotive industry and occupy their niche through innovation, quality, price, etc. Imagine how much profit from all this will be the country and the people? Buying a Samsung TV, you do not think what is included in its price, and this price is too high in 2-3 for sure. wink Now imagine markups? hi
          1. Joker
            Joker 12 December 2012 17: 10
            +2
            And we have everything around ours not ours, we essentially keep all of Europe, Asia and others buying their goods, the state of this is why the maximum 10% of all sales falls, and there are also those who do not pay taxes in full and such a huge amount . But okay, the state, people suffer from this the most, we buy a lighter that costs 1 ruble at cost for 15 rubles — cool? And so everywhere. And with the nationalization method, the state will receive not a measly penny, but 40% of the profits of giant companies, this is just a lot of money. But most of all in the benefit will be the people who will buy everything at normal prices. hi Suppose there is a Samsung TV for 20 000 p. our analog would cost 10 000 p. there is a difference? And if we allow some plants to fully robotize, then prices can be achieved in 7-8 thousand rubles, i.e. there will be no salary costs, but pennies are spent on maintenance and repair of equipment, unlike manual labor. That's what we need right now. Communism is still a great thing, it’s just that everything has now been distorted and passed on to capitalism, when there is a flock of wealthy private owners and people who have to overpay for everything 2-3 times. As an example, just look at how much food prices have changed now, about 3-4 have become higher than steel, I bought bread for 2000 rubles in 5, and now it’s worth 20, while inflation over 10 has been lower 100% i. in fact, it cannot cost more than 10 rubles now. So much for capitalism.
          2. sintur
            sintur 25 December 2012 19: 28
            0
            About Samsung TV. It will initially be more expensive than in the store in our economic conditions and with our labor. Now, if you once spend money on a robotic plant and build it with us, launch, sell shares. Then it will be good. What is the use of screwdriver assembly.
            Once they bought FIAT, it still works. If you also bought a dozen factories of different consumer goods in the USSR, then there would be no collapse of the soz. Bred like suckers jeans and chewing gum.
      2. robinson
        robinson 12 December 2012 15: 40
        0
        Quote: Joker
        we certainly will never catch up with the United States.

        But you must? We do something with them along the way?
        Quote: Joker
        And there is an American businessman, I don’t remember his name, having a relatively small amount of money, he took a huge loan from a bank and bought FC Manchester United, what did he do next? Yes, he simply wrote off all his debts on the loan to the laughing club, now he collects money without debts every season, and the club pays his debt for him, then he sells the club and remains in a huge plus, that's how the business is done

        Your heroes and priorities are clear. No, we will not exactly catch up. Sit out of work.
        1. Joker
          Joker 12 December 2012 16: 28
          +4
          I now wonder you have a head for what? Eat it and shout hooray hooray hooray patriot you are ours.
          But you must? We do something with them along the way?

          No, we really do not follow the path, why do we need to develop the economy so well, and the fact that the US’s GDP is 5 times higher than we do not care. It is about the economy, not about the minds of people and homosexuals with lesbians, the article is about the development of the economy, about the approaches to its development. If the article has the word USA, this does not mean that you should immediately shout hurray and put minuses to everyone.
          Your heroes and priorities are clear. No, we will not exactly catch up. Sit out of work.

          Of course, they are understandable, instead of ours, he bought a club abroad and pays taxes to his country, and ours steal in their own country, destroy and carry all the money abroad while keeping a penny in the state. the budget does not fall from them. There is a difference? Why our officials are milking our country, and not some kind of Germany or France?
          You are very short-sighted, sorry.
          1. robinson
            robinson 12 December 2012 17: 34
            0
            Quote: Joker
            US GDP is 5 times higher than we do not care. We are talking about the economy, and not about the minds of people and homosexuals with lesbians, the article is about the development of the economy, about approaches to its development. If the word US is in the article, this does not mean that you should immediately shout cheers and put cons to everyone.

            GDP is 5 times larger in what units of measure? In those who print the United States and earn the rest? Securities? Parrots What are we measuring? Have you ever heard of an American fridge? Or a tv? (Just in case, I’ll inform you: iPad is made in China). External debt for actually consumed resources that the United States will never be able to repay. There is no problem finding a photo of the city of Detroit on the internet. In a short time, the country of sensible and hardworking people fell in the ass. I don’t want this for my country. I’m still relatively young, children, soon my grandchildren will go, I want to live and work. I about it.
            Quote: Joker
            Of course understand

            Well, if you believe in patriotism, scoundrels and scammers, then yes.
            1. Joker
              Joker 12 December 2012 18: 32
              +2
              US debts are GOVERNMENT !!! And not the debts of companies and the reason is that they do not live on income, but this does not negate the fact that their income is 5 times higher than ours, they have huge money allocated only to maintain the infrastructure, huge sums are spent on roads alone . And their militarization ruined them, it was from there all the problems, they spend fabulous money on the army, plus the entire loss due to outstanding loans, only because of loans for studying the US debt 2-3 trillion dollars. This is all the fault of the government, but the companies both worked before and work providing the country with taxes.
              Well, if you believe in patriotism, scoundrels and scammers, then yes.

              And then patriotism? I gave you an example of our Abramovich and their businessman, we stole and took everything away, but I didn’t steal them, and he also pays taxes. The essence of the example is that with us, the whole business of stealing is built, and they have competent contributions and development. For reference, Manchester United with an American businessman achieves excellent results, despite the debt and this debt will be paid through 5 for years, so the club itself did not suffer any damage, and the businessman is constantly allocated money to acquire new players because he is interested in the development of the club , that's what it is about, and after privatization, all the plants are destroyed, we have a lot of old factories left that are modernized and are working now? Yes, not one, everyone was taken away and all the capital was taken out, and that's the approach of American businessmen and ours. And the fact that who is a patriot there I do not say, but for some reason all innovations in the domestic sphere come from the United States, and not from China, which in terms of GDP almost reached the United States. China takes low prices, and the US innovates at reasonable prices. And ours take the fact that there are no competitors and prices are broken in 3 times higher than the cost price. Did we have a lot of innovations in the domestic sphere? All that happened, everything from state-owned enterprises and companies, which are private now, private traders are now engaged in the usual resale of goods from other countries, that's all. Only the steel industry still lives with us, the rest are all dead for a long time, and no one is going to revive them, so why if you can buy Chinese jeans for 500р. and sell them for 2500 p. it’s more convenient because there’s no competition, they all sell the same product, only the tags are different, you need to dress up with everything, so there will always be demand. So much for the difference. In the USSR, all their own were and televisions and radios, headphones, furniture, and now everything foreign with a triple surcharge. Here you have the whole essence of our private traders and that is why we live so badly that we can afford a little, and if you pay for all real prices with a normal profit to the manufacturer, then the prices will be 2-3 times lower for ALL, i.e. people can afford everything in 2-3 times more than before. In general, only executions and universal nationalization will save Russia, but for now we are at a dead end and there is no way out. Am I not telling the truth?
              1. robinson
                robinson 12 December 2012 19: 38
                0
                Quote: Joker
                And ruined them

                I won’t even discuss what killed them. Do you suggest that we catch them?
                Quote: Joker
                but they didn’t steal anything

                Yeah, in your words, he only:
                Quote: Joker
                just wrote off all his loan debt to the club laughing

                No, it’s not possible to live like that. At the same time, I can’t even say how it doesn’t channel, the forum rules do not allow it.
    7. sintur
      sintur 25 December 2012 18: 33
      0
      The article, as always in such cases, is either ordered or not from a great mind. Nothing will help either Europe or the United States. Due to the cheapness of goods, China will systematically take away both domestic and foreign sales markets from both Europe and the United States. The loss of sales markets due to the inability to compete with China on price will lead to the ruin of enterprises and colossal job losses. And then a social explosion. What we are seeing today in Greece, Spain. These are just flowers. The socially secure capitalism model is heading for the abyss. Yes, they will print money for a while, but as soon as the currency loses stability (euro, dollar) so immediately and hello. All speculators will go to the Chinese one. And Europe and the United States have said everything in this period of civilization development, then only stagnation and the collapse of these associations into small fragments, and then, everyone save yourself as you can. It will happen as always "unexpectedly" and very quickly. Woe to economists either do not know what to do or do not want to speed up this process with correct forecasts. Most likely, both are taking place.
      As for Russia. Yes, the time of past achievements has passed and there really is nothing good to expect, the nation is aging, the "elite" in the last leap tears everything that can be snatched to pieces, does not see the shores, as if the last day is living. There is no morality, no conscience, the parties differ only in names, but in fact the same thing - business through politics, business through politics. All this is taken from the baggage of Europe and the United States. But, however, the territory and minerals of the country will not die as quickly as Europe. We will supply developed and developing economies with oil, gas and other raw materials, possibly also food, if we let someone else's farmer enter our lands. A Chinese farmer has already come and is working profitably, so that they do not talk about pesticides and herbicides. The harp is made from poles and film in hectares of greenhouses and filled up with vegetables.
      The laws of the development of civilization will not be noted. Poverty, rise, prosperity, debauchery, death. Sadly, this is our future.
  2. Sars
    Sars 12 December 2012 06: 30
    +10
    What a homosexual physiognomy!
    Naturally, Russia will not create anything valuable for fagots.
    1. WW3
      WW3 12 December 2012 06: 53
      +5
      Quote: SarS
      What a homosexual physiognomy!

      that's for sure...

    2. stroporez
      stroporez 12 December 2012 13: 54
      0
      the whole world is puffing up in order to create a shot that is valuable for ra ... races, we have an absolutely opposite opinion.
  3. WW3
    WW3 12 December 2012 06: 30
    +5
    "Russia will never create anything of value"

    "Never say never"! winked
    The United States will continue to remain the undisputed leader in the economy, the famous Swedish economist believes

    If they do not fall apart into disconnected states ... and a debt of 17 trillion. dollars hanging like a domocles sword ...
  4. Bykov.
    Bykov. 12 December 2012 06: 42
    +5
    What do you mean does not create? Already created and continues to create. Already at least ten of Sweden is enough.
  5. Vanek
    Vanek 12 December 2012 06: 48
    +3
    I can do everything: I can
    Open your soul and sleep in the snow
    I can look anyone in the eye
    But the Soviet police can not.

    I can soak it all over the place, yes
    That fits into the brain in no one.
    I can swear anywhere
    But in the Soviet police I can’t.

    Let them torture me as much as they like
    Where are the partisans? - I will not tell the enemy
    I kept silent all interrogations freely,
    But in the Soviet police I can’t.

    I have an imagination by nature
    I can imagine, say, in a coffin
    I see everything clearly: face and expression,
    I want to introduce the police - I can’t.

    I can do everything: learn everything,
    Eat two stews in our dining room,
    But that the police no longer twist their hands,
    Though I shoot - I can’t believe it.
    But that the police no longer twist their hands,
    Though I shoot - I can’t believe it.


    "I can do anything" Andrey Aleshkin.
  6. Bort radist
    Bort radist 12 December 2012 06: 49
    +1
    Let Breivik in prison tell this complacency tale.
    1. WW3
      WW3 12 December 2012 07: 01
      +1
      Breivik from Norway, although they are neighbors with Sweden ..
      A breivik is contained in a block of very high security. He is currently the only such prisoner in Norway.
      "In my memory, this is the first time in Norwegian history when a prisoner will be in a very strict regime for so long. We must somehow compensate him for the isolation so that he does not develop any deviations," said prison director Knut Bjarkade
  7. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 12 December 2012 07: 00
    +3
    So that the Austrian can become a member of the Swedish parliament. Not only in theory, but also in practice, "the economist said in an interview. hi I take off my hat to the scholarship of an overseas professor ( fool )
    They don't care if you are a Muslim or a lesbian: if you are a good worker, you are with us. " hi thanks professor ( fool ), but I don’t want to be with you tongue
  8. WW3
    WW3 12 December 2012 07: 06
    +8
    Ivan Vasilievich is changing the profession. Speech by the Swedish Ambassador
  9. Sergg
    Sergg 12 December 2012 07: 10
    0
    Western liberistic abradocadabra nonsense!
    Sorry, I broke a word a little, but the ideology of Westerners regarding Russia in the same broken way.
    In our understanding, a Westerner = is gay, we definitely don’t want to be with them.
  10. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 12 December 2012 07: 25
    +2

    SOMETHING DO NOT BLAD, BETTER.
  11. Vanek
    Vanek 12 December 2012 07: 31
    +8
    Funky Business

    And now we translate "FUNKY" into our native Russian.



    1> _rep. funky; in panic

    2> _rep. cowardly

    3> _am. _next smelly

    4> _am. _next lustful; emphasized sexy

    5> _am. _next a great
    _Ex:
    a funky party party what you need

    6> _am. _sl. old-fashioned, traditional
    -> English-Russian dictionary Socrates
    -> funky dumb

    -> funky unleash cowardly, scared

    MAKE CONCLUSIONS, GENTLEMEN.
  12. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 12 December 2012 07: 31
    +3
    On advertising rights, so to speak ... hi
    1. WW3
      WW3 12 December 2012 07: 38
      +10
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      On advertising rights, so to speak

      so what are you northern Aleni ... feel ... where is he and where is she?
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 12 December 2012 07: 41
        +12
        Quote: WW3
        so here you are what are northern aleni


        I’m asking you not to touch the deer.

        At a time: - A beautiful deer animal.

        On two: - Among deer, "rear-wheel drive" does not exist.
        1. WW3
          WW3 12 December 2012 07: 53
          +8
          Quote: Vanek
          I’m asking you not to touch the deer.

          I wrote these bald "rear-wheel drive" Scandinavians through А
        2. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 12 December 2012 07: 54
          +3
          One +, Aleni do not give offspring
          1. Vanek
            Vanek 12 December 2012 07: 55
            +5
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            Aleni does not give offspring


            And thank God.
            1. WW3
              WW3 12 December 2012 07: 59
              +5
              Quote: Vanek
              And thank God.

              1100! Let them be an endangered species ...
            2. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 12 December 2012 07: 59
              +6
              Not the ones, but the Vikings have gone. Not those ....
              1. Vanek
                Vanek 12 December 2012 08: 00
                +2
                Quote: Thunderbolt
                Not the ones, but the Vikings have gone. Not those ....


                laughing laughing good laughing
              2. MG42
                MG42 12 December 2012 08: 07
                +6
                Quote: Thunderbolt
                Not the ones, but the Vikings have gone. Not those ..

                The language does not turn to call these Swedish bald Tolerast Vikings. Homosexuals in one word! am
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 12 December 2012 08: 00
    +2
    Let our gastriks be taken away. And Russia doesn’t have to invent anything, it's all about bureaucrats ... like the great ones ... our country is rich, we just don’t have an order ... If the Americans are so smart that the whole world is bashing in the economy. The country lives off the brains of migrants ... well, its just stupid.
  14. StrateG
    StrateG 12 December 2012 08: 05
    +2
    "Russia, too, will never create anything of value. This is the price the country pays for centralized governance. Only open, liberal, democratic societies can create something useful."


    If we do something valuable, then others simply will not appreciate it as we do. I think so.
  15. taseka
    taseka 12 December 2012 08: 07
    +2
    "We need a working parliament and an effective police apparatus. Otherwise, there will be no business, but the mafia." - only this phrase confused him! I began to analyze about the primacy of decisions in the GD-ER and how the police have recently "shown" themselves in all their glory and have become a little sad !!!
    And the fact that he said a deer about Russia, so what to take from a deer!
  16. Apollo
    Apollo 12 December 2012 08: 10
    +5
    Good morning everybody!
    Nordstrom’s remarks made me at least have an ironic smile. BullshitIt is no secret that a large-scale and global information war is being waged against Russia. To sow uncertainty in the future of the Russians and to destabilize the situation is the main task of such "economists." . revision of a number of legislative acts hindering the implementation of reforms, increasing the responsibility of officials, regardless of past merits and party affiliation in the center and in the localities, etc.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 15 December 2012 14: 40
      0
      Quote: Apollon
      Bullshit

      Brad of a bald mare laughing
  17. engineer74
    engineer74 12 December 2012 08: 24
    +4
    "Russia will never create anything of value"
    Sami, by chance, do not create a Swedish caliphate.
  18. volcano
    volcano 12 December 2012 08: 24
    +7
    Russia will never create anything ......
    Yeah ....... Russia created and came up with so much that it is a very big question, what would humanity do without us ..... what a modest thing ......
    If only I read what has already been created by Russian scientists .....
    I wish the Scandinavian kid would be surprised.
    1. ALPETSEM
      ALPETSEM 12 December 2012 11: 03
      +4
      “Russia will never create anything of value” is in his understanding, because our values ​​are different, so everything is through ...
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 12 December 2012 12: 51
        +1
        then sho is valuable for geyropa --- we absolutely do not need (n-ry, lesbians, etc.) but Europe expects sho Russian "vanka" will invent something again, and the "civilized" world is stealing as usual))))
  19. Forget
    Forget 12 December 2012 08: 27
    +3
    Russia, too, will never create anything of value ...

    this Swede was worth recalling that the only fast-neutron atomic reactor in the world is operating in Russia. Many tried to do it only in Russia. Moreover, the most powerful thermonuclear bomb was created in the USSR, the American did not stand close. And centrifuges for enriching uranium, no matter how much the USA puffed up, nothing came of it. And finally, from whom Boeing buys titanium, right from the Russians.
  20. igor36
    igor36 12 December 2012 08: 28
    +4
    While the United States money from paper for the whole world will be money from paper print, a liberal economic model will work. But when the real price of the buck is established, then there will be neither the United States nor the Swedish liberal economists.
  21. engineer74
    engineer74 12 December 2012 08: 29
    +4
    "So that the Austrian woman could become a member of the Swedish parliament. Not only in theory, but also in practice."
    I remember the Germans have already chosen the Austrian chancellor. what
  22. freder
    freder 12 December 2012 08: 29
    +1
    5 Mintuk Butcherts in comments laughing
  23. IlyaKuv
    IlyaKuv 12 December 2012 08: 57
    +1
    Well, his conclusion sounded somehow quietly and lonely, the Scandinavian probably clouded, although what can I say, remember Breivik, in which cottage he lives for his crimes. fool
  24. Atlon
    Atlon 12 December 2012 09: 04
    +6
    Fuck us here is the opinion of some moron? Article minus. To the author - in appearance! A reprimand with an entry! Dismiss from now on, to read such nonsense, from some undeveloped Aleny! Ugh! My mother is a woman ... stop
    1. Galina
      Galina 12 December 2012 14: 17
      +1
      Atlon
      You should not have attacked the author of the article in vain. Very helpful article. You need to know the different faces of Europe. That is, we know a lot of things. And here you are, and so too. The nonsense of the hero of the article - the homosexual is so obvious that it serves as the best anti-advertising of European values ​​for many lovers of European romanticism.
  25. albanec
    albanec 12 December 2012 09: 05
    +1
    Well, why are you attacking a man? He just needs to sell his book, and supporting China and Russia, praising the economies and governments of these countries and condemning amers and the European Union, the book will not work) As the saying goes, "Nothing personal, just business!" laughing
  26. Wedmak
    Wedmak 12 December 2012 09: 07
    +5
    Russia, too, will never create anything of value. This is the price a country pays for centralized management. Only open, liberal, democratic societies can create something meaningful.

    Yes, fuck ... We already see what liberal Europe can create - ah ... still from some of their creations ... Nafig, nafig we don’t need such progress, we’re better off in the old way - we will play the balalaika, but with Bears drink vodka.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 12 December 2012 09: 21
      +2
      SUPPORT
    2. Pit
      Pit 12 December 2012 11: 51
      +1
      Quote: Wedmak
      Nafig, nafig we don’t need that kind of progress, we’re better off the old way - we will play the balalaika and drink vodka with the bears.


      I forgot to add: and the reactor is warming wink
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 12 December 2012 12: 03
        +2
        This is classified information! smile (he said, scratching the forked tip of the scaly tail under the left wing ...)
  27. Averias
    Averias 12 December 2012 09: 10
    +5
    Let me comment with a quote from the movie "Shirley-Myrli", the character Sukhodrishchev (O. Tabakov) - Guys, I have been entgo pi ....... ra in the market saw, he traded in wooden members :-)
  28. Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 12 December 2012 09: 20
    +2
    He has no illusions about our country either. “Russia will never create anything of value either.

    And what created a valuable democratic Sweden? Volvo and then sold to China.
  29. serge
    serge 12 December 2012 09: 26
    +2
    Wild liberal nonsense and denial of economic laws. Any specialist, from an engineer to a hockey player, is inclined to work where he is paid more. Today they pay more in the USA. The dollar will roll, and not a single foreign specialist will remain in the United States.
  30. Burbur
    Burbur 12 December 2012 09: 29
    0
    Bugagaga, here "ekanomizd" ™ made fun of it so much. Just puffs with laughter.
  31. Lyokha79
    Lyokha79 12 December 2012 09: 31
    +2
    I don’t know about you, but I put a plus article. No, not for the nonsense that is written there, but for the fact that in the morning this navel lifted my mood. Well this Swede licked the American ... opu. And about the fact that without liberalism and democracy Russia will not create anything, it was the first satellite created in the USSR, and the first man in space was Russian.
  32. reading
    reading 12 December 2012 09: 36
    +5
    I read the comments, like Zhvanetsky's "in the dispute, immediately go to the person." As for the essence of the article, he is right (from the point of view of a Western person) that Russia will not create anything worthwhile (sorry for the consonance). If we tailor ourselves to Western values, then nothing will come of it. Paraphrasing "What is good for a Russian, death is for a German" (k / f "Brother"), in the opposite direction we are also a skiff. And the fact that the United States has created an effective system of nipple and vacuum cleaner "in one bottle" to lure promising scientists is also a fact. They even went further, thought, why should they bring people to them, it is better to throw grants to impoverished scientists, and even on their equipment to get a result that they can "squeeze" through legal casuistry. And about the fact that Russia is a centralized country - and the country will not be differently - will scatter (huge territory, cold climate, multinationality and confessionality, etc.). I live in a rather warm part of the country, in Rostov-on-Don, and then the house needs to be built at least 1,5 bricks (preferably 2-2,5), but remember hurricanes in the USA - their plywood houses fly apart like in "Three Little Pigs" ... And this is savings in capital investments and other money. Sweden is also a country with a cold climate, but the traditions are different. Let them abolish the monarchy at home, bring Latinos, Turks and Chinese, then we'll see about their democratic "jelly banks and milk rivers".
    1. Begemot
      Begemot 12 December 2012 10: 02
      +2
      On the whole, I agree, but about the Swedes - let me, everything is not as good as it seems, they don’t want to work, they live in the bulk of the poor, and it seems their days have passed, there are only 6 families own 80% of the business and lost ground recently in the world market, Muslims, Latinos, Chinese there are darkness, they even have to open schools for migrants, and they have a cartoonish monarchy, the Swedes themselves adore their monarchs as pets, hamsters or guinea pigs.
  33. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 12 December 2012 09: 40
    +1
    America will be considered a leader in the world economy only until it stops satisfying everyone - until it suits everyone, but how long will it last?
    There are certain rules of the game, everyone plays on them - but impending crises are threatening world chaos, here are all sorts of other Swedes crawl out into the media with a portion of another sedative, they say, everything is fine, it’s planned, you shouldn’t twitch ...
  34. Averias
    Averias 12 December 2012 10: 08
    +2
    Here's what I noticed, M. Zadornov and his own - Americans, well, so stupid, has long been out of date. I open any foreign press, and here it is a comedy. The comical absurdity that they write about us, Zadornov nervously smokes in the corridor. Communicating with foreigners, I asked a question, but you yourself believe in it? For the most part, the answer is no. I especially like the press in England, as soon as one publisher blurt out, the rest immediately pick up and everyone adds from themselves. As a result, the original "news" is twisted so that it is impossible to understand what it is about.
  35. iulai
    iulai 12 December 2012 10: 10
    +1
    he mumbled something about lesbians that pulled the blue.
  36. afire
    afire 12 December 2012 10: 15
    +1
    do you think it makes sense to read the article ??
    somehow I was embarrassed by the snout in the header of the article .....
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 12 December 2012 10: 27
      0
      The whole point of the article is in the title. The rest is liberal dregs.
  37. IRBIS
    IRBIS 12 December 2012 10: 19
    +7
    The opinion of a person from a country where homosexuals are proud of their orientation is an empty phrase for me personally. I read it and it seemed like shit was smeared ... I’ll go and wash my hands with soap.
  38. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 12 December 2012 10: 28
    +1
    "Russia will never create anything of value"
    Has already created and a lot and primacy and an outstanding role in this will forever belong to Russia! The first man in space, the greatest victory over fascism - these are just some of the examples of the undoubted outstanding primacy of a "non-free, dictatorial" Russia. And how many more examples can be cited. It is clear that this is not only a matter of "freedoms," liberalism, tolerance, and other so-called American "values." There are also such concepts as love for the Motherland, for family, relatives, friends, their roots, their people .... It seems that the Western "expert" does not understand this.
  39. Magadan
    Magadan 12 December 2012 10: 28
    +6
    Russia cannot create anything of value .... Because. it is "centralized".
    Well, it goes without saying that the first Spaceship in the world is not a value! Value is Swedish porn movies and Coca-Cola in banks wink
    Where are we, poor and wretched
  40. -ш-
    -ш- 12 December 2012 10: 28
    +3
    but what's the point of creating if another "Nobel genius" borrows an idea that there is no one in your homeland to pay and implement
  41. Leisure
    Leisure 12 December 2012 10: 29
    +6
    Fagot again teaches life.
  42. robinson
    robinson 12 December 2012 10: 41
    +6
    author!! It is clear that different opinions are needed and important, why did you write the current:
    "However, all the arguments given by the Swedish economist are quite logical and fully confirmed by life practice."
    What is logical? What is the practice? The totalitarian USSR ALREADY created a bunch of everything, the totalitarian China ALREADY created the coolest economy. It ALREADY happened, it's just a dumb fact! On the example of our own country, we ALREADY saw that the private owner is not a fact effective, and totalitarian governance is not a bad fact. IT'S JUST FUNNY FACTS !!! That is, it was not the fact of the Swede’s declaration that killed me, but the author’s attitude. How fell from the moon.
  43. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
    Mihaylo Tishayshiy 12 December 2012 11: 01
    +3
    Yeah-ah! How skillfully this Swede (with the consent of the author who cites him) linked the creation of a powerful economy (albeit with an astronomical foreign debt) and the invention of something valuable for humanity with "nicrophilia". Why with "nicrophilia"? Let me explain. Recently, the World Health Organization, in all seriousness, officially recognized the normal human feeling of "love" - ​​a disease (from the category of mental disorders). But this organization does not recognize such sexual addictions as lesbianism and sodomy as a disease, and this category of citizens is simply called "sexual minority". How is the topic of "sexual minorities" presented in the legislation of the countries of Europe and America, you, I think, "vkurse". And now some "learned" men in the West started talking about the fact that "pedophiles" should be classified as a "sexual minority" with all the ensuing consequences. Well, there are on the way and "zoophiles" with "nikrophiles" - are they worse than that? The main thing is that the employee is good! Not an article, but some kind of carrot slick, it's even disgusting to discuss, but you can't be silent either! ..
    And as for the leaving young "brains", in whom "animal" instincts have prevailed, our society is being cleansed of potential "traitors", and there is nothing to be sad about. The percentage of smart, capable and brilliant people is the same everywhere - both in Moscow and in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, our land will not become scarce with them. And how to bring them up and give them a good education, while staying to live and work in their homeland is a topic for a separate, serious conversation.
  44. Begemot
    Begemot 12 December 2012 11: 16
    +1
    The attitude of the Swedes towards Russia is very different. Wise Swedes are grateful to us for discouraging their desire to become a great power, the bulk of the inhabitants stupidly eats similar "anal" articles (anal is the key word) and bypasses the quarters where Chechens and other "Russians" from the Asian republics live, which they have sheltered on the wave of anti-Russian hysteria.
    Now they regret it, because this pack must be fed and protected from all the natives. But looking at them, the typical Swede concludes that all Russians are like that. It is not surprising that such reading material appears at regular intervals in the media. I would like to clarify with the author what he means when he speaks of the "valuable" thing that Russia will not create. If this is science and technology, then he is simply an ignoramus or a provocateur, there is nothing that the West created that could not be done here. A question of expediency. If he considers gay pride parades and the priority right to hire pedophiles, gays and lesbians to be a value, then we do not need such "values", which is why we do not create them. We have different values, so everyone will be judged in their own way, and there is no need to flatter with your charter in a foreign monastery. For example, my favorite Swedish food "hold-brum srulle" seems so crap that only homeless people can eat it, and then with a week of hunger, but this does not make all the Swedes wild in my eyes, incapable of Papuans.
  45. WW3
    WW3 12 December 2012 11: 21
    +2
    European values ​​....
    Swedish family - Three people of both sexes (one man and two women or two men and one woman) live together in the same house. Hence the French name - ménage à trois, that is, a farm for three.
  46. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 12 December 2012 11: 24
    +2
    Yes to hell with it! The turbine factory was launched, wow, but the fact that the Swede is trembling is paid to him. It's just that his work is der_movaya. Well, there’s someone learning what!
  47. Pit
    Pit 12 December 2012 11: 28
    +1
    Blah - blah - blah, america forever. Well, I'm a Spanish pilot. fellow
    Another crap like everywhere else hr..vo, but in pi..sii, as always, it's great. I wonder how much he was paid for such a "non-biased" forecast?
  48. toguns
    toguns 12 December 2012 11: 42
    +1
    wassat the larger the cabinet, it's me about the usa, the more it will fall louder.
    folk wisdom :)
  49. stroporez
    stroporez 12 December 2012 11: 51
    0
    this "analyst" ordered this review, and it was not very "sour" paid. I think it's clear who))))))))))))
  50. Bosk
    Bosk 12 December 2012 12: 16
    +5
    When Peter opened the window to Europe, Russia suddenly emerged, which was previously considered the feudal state of the Tatars, and even with a religion different from Europe. Then Russia defeated Napoleon, which was no surprise. He conquered all of Europe and Russia, no. Hitler also drove from his territory. And after each such war, Russia was restored as an empire .... And each time a sea of ​​predictors appeared that promised us a full tryndets .......