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Gullible Serdyukov has nothing to do with it

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In possession of "Rosbalt" were the investigation materials about the theft of property of the Ministry of Defense. It follows from them that the Investigation Committee (SK) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints against the former head of the military department, Anatoly Serdyukov, because his subordinates, including Yevgeny Vasilyev, “deceived” him and “misled”. But the circle of classmates Vasilieva, who have become accused in the case, may expand. Investigators suspect that close friend Vasilyeva, head of the Main Directorate of Arrangement of Troops (GUOV) Lyudmila Egorina took part in real estate frauds.


"Abusing trust" Serdyukov

It should be noted that in most of the materials of the Military Investigation Department of the RF IC, for example, in resolutions on initiating a case of fraud when selling a country house in the Krasnodar Territory (the so-called "Serdyukov villa") - on the role of former military department in the events it is reported extremely dry and evasive: “the officials of the Department of Property Relations (DIO, headed by Yevgeny Vasilyev - Rosbalt) of the Ministry of Defense, exceeding the powers granted to them, organized the preparation and publication of directives defense nistra ... " In these and some other materials of the case, a full legal assessment is given of the actions of the defendants - Vasilyeva, Egorina, Smetanova, Zakutaylo and others ("exceeding authority", "out of mercenary motives", etc.), and the actions of the head of the military department are not characterized. Moreover, even the names of Serdyukov are not in the documents, everywhere he is simply referred to as “the Minister of Defense”.

However, in materials on fraud with shares of OAO 31 GPISS and real estate GUOV, investigators assess Serdyukov’s actions. "Persons (Vasilyeva, Yegorina and Zakutailo - Rosbalt), who performed managerial functions in Oboronservis OJSC and ... (the subsidiary structures of this joint stock company are listed, including those where Zakutymailo was the general director, Rosbalt), fraud and abuse of trust, misleading the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense and shareholders, transferred payment orders to the account of Legal Support Center Expert (company headed by Vasilieva Ekaterina Smetanova - Rosbalt) for the total amount of 234 million 900 thousand . RU bley. "

That is, according to the latest version of the RF IC, Vasilyeva was simply deceiving his gullible boss Serdyukov, and he himself did not know anything about the scams that his subordinates "scrolled" behind his back.

Classmates in the Ministry of Defense

From the case file it becomes clear that further investigation will move not "up", but "in breadth." Investigators are now exploring in detail the activities of Vasilyeva’s friends, who are trapped in the Defense Ministry system. First of all, it is about classmate Vasilyeva in the Faculty of Law of the St. Petersburg State University Lyudmila Egorina, who at various times occupied the positions of Acting. Director General of JSC Oboronservis and the head of GUOV. In particular, an investigation is underway to sell GUOV facilities at a lower price.

"In June 2011, the general director of OAO" GUOV "Yegorina L.M ... performing managerial functions in a commercial organization contrary to its legitimate interests and protected interests of the state, in order to reap the benefits and advantages for those leading and managing OAO Granit-Kuznechnoye" doing business in the rubble market of granite within the boundaries of St. Petersburg, wishing to please the persons who are members of the governing bodies of OAO GUOV and OAO Oboronservis (meaning Vasilyev - Rosbalt), and others statement on the implementation of the profitable enterprise LLC 436 KNI of JSC Granit-Kuznechnoye at a lower price. "

According to the investigators, Yegorina also illegally donated to Granit-Kuznechnoye a license for the right to use subsoil resources at the Prudy-Mokhovoye-Yaskinskoye deposit.

The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation believes that Yegorina and Vasilyeva took an active part in the scam selling buildings in Moscow’s Bolshoi Predtechensky Lane, which belonged to GUOV.

"4 July 2011 members of the board of directors of Oboronservis OJSC (composed of the chairman - head of the DIO of the Ministry of Defense Vasilyeva, members - head of the department for coordinating the exercise of rights of the owner of the MO Shtykulin, acting director general of the JSC" Oboronservis "Yegorina) commercial organization and the legally protected interests of the state, approved the transaction for the sale of this property complex LLC "Theorem" at a lower price ".

The investigation concludes that "the unlawful actions of the said persons led not only to the damage caused by GUOV, but also caused a violation of the property interests of its founder, the Russian Federation." The amount of damage from a deal with buildings in Bolshoi Predtechensky is estimated at 202 million rubles.

Property Ministry of Defense privatized the "military" money

The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation Armed Forces of Russia built in detail the whole scheme under which the former fellow students acted, and also found out where they got the money to buy real estate from the Defense Ministry on the cheap in their own interests.

According to the investigation, on April 10 of 2009, Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov appointed Yevgeny Vasilyev, the head of the DIO, and 15 of February, 2011 of the year and. about. General Director of Oboronservis became Egorina, who "in the period of 1996-2001, together with Vasilyeva, studied at St. Petersburg State University." By decision of the head of the military department, Vasiliev and Egorin were included on the boards of directors of a number of subholdings and subsidiaries of Oboronservis OJSC. 1 On April 2011, a meeting of the board of directors of OAO Oboronservis was held, at which Capital Consulting, as proposed by Vasilyeva, as an organization providing property valuation services for the military department. At the same meeting, Expert Legal Support Center LLC was granted the right to provide agency services in real estate sales.

As noted in the case file, Vasilyeva had previously worked as a lawyer in a company "affiliated with Capital Consulting LLC. And Yekaterina Smetanova, general director and founder of Ekspert, was a classmate of Vasilyeva and Yegorina." This may indicate conspiracy and self-interest of these individuals in exercising their authority. "

Further, according to investigators, fellow students began to form the monetary base for subsequent scams. Despite the fact that the directors of the Defense Ministry were negotiating directly, the documents were drawn up so that the agent for the transactions was Expert, to whom the subsidiaries of Oboronservis regularly transferred interest from each amount received from the sale of buildings. Operatives of the Interior Ministry of the Russian Federation believe that part of the property was sold at a lower price, for which Smetanova separately received "kickbacks" from buyers.

When in December 2011 a large amount of money accumulated on the accounts of Smetanova’s structures, under the loan agreement, it transferred these funds to VitaProject LLC, the founders of which were Expert and Alexey Naumkin. The latter was also the general director of VitaProject and the head of the legal department of Expert.

It was VitaProject for the money paid by the Ministry of Defense as an agency fee. From December 2011 to January 2012 bought a part of the most “tasty” objects of the military department. In particular, the stake of OAO "31 GPISS", which owns a number of buildings in Moscow.

According to the investigation, Capital Consulting LLC valued the assets of the Ministry of Defense at a lower price, the misguided Defense Minister signed the necessary directives, VitaProject LLC bought military objects on the cheap, and even from these transactions continued to receive agent interest.

House by the sea with a view of the Federal Tax Service

The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation especially carefully studied the features of the sale of a country house in the village of Peresyp of the Temryuk district of the Krasnodar Territory, which the locals called the “summer house (or villa) of Serdyukov”.

As follows from the case, this object was previously owned by the subsidiary structure of the Federal Tax Service FSUE "SPb Inzhtechcentre". Recall, before becoming Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov headed the Federal Tax Service. However, in April 2010, the government, at the request of the military department, transferred “St. Petersburg Engineering Technology Center” from the Federal Tax Service to the Ministry of Defense, where the federal state unitary enterprise received a new name - “St. Petersburg Engineering and Technology Center of the Ministry of Defense”. And then "officials of the DIO, exceeding the powers granted to them, ... prepared projects and ensured the implementation by the Minister of Defense" of a number of legal acts.

28 May 2010 of the year Serdyukov transferred the country house in Peresyp from the balance of FSUE "St. Petersburg Engineering and Technical Center of the Ministry of Defense" to the balance of FSU "Zagorodnaya KECh rayon". October 13 2010, Serdyukov ordered to secure a country house already for the state unitary enterprise "District material warehouse" ("OMC"). 28 December 2010, the Minister of Defense signed an order on the privatization of the state unitary enterprise “OMS”, in the list of assets of which, which is also subject to privatization, Vasilyeva included a property in the Temryuk district. And in the same December, the Ministry of Defense began the construction of a suburban complex at Peresyp, on which a total of Defense Ministry spent 328 million rubles of budget money.

18 March 2011, the state unitary enterprise "OMC" was registered as a company. That is, the privatization took place. 13 April, Maxim Zakutaylo, Ekaterina Smetanova's husband and classmate Vasilyeva, was appointed CEO of OMS. According to investigators, in May 2011 of the year asked Zakutailo LLC Capital Consulting to evaluate the country house by the sea as of December 28 of 2010 of the year - for the period when Peresyp had not started building a luxury mansion. It is noteworthy that by this time all the old buildings in Peresyp were demolished, and in their place a new modern complex began to appear.

Despite this, Capital Consulting concluded that the value of the object was 92,1 million rubles. 19 August 2011, "DIO officials, exceeding their authority, organized the preparation and publication of the directive of the Minister of Defense," according to which the OMS board of directors was ordered to approve the implementation of a country house in Peresyp as a "non-core asset". In the same directive of the minister, the sale price is also indicated - 92,1 million rubles. For this amount, in September 2011 of the year, "Serdyukov's Dacha" was bought by CityEngineering LLC. Who is the real owner of this company, in the case file is not specified. It noted only that "the buyer of this property - LLC CityEngineering" - was known to the seller long before the transaction. " And even with this transaction, by decision of Zakutaylo, the agency interest in the amount of 5 million rubles was transferred to the firm of his spouse "Expert".

It is worth noting that the text of criminal cases draws attention to the fact that they were initiated according to the materials of the Department of Military Counterintelligence of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation and the Main Military Prosecutor’s Office.
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  1. mar.tira
    mar.tira 11 December 2012 07: 13 New
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    In Russia, criminals are accustomed to covering their patrons, because we live in a country where everything is arranged according to the concepts of a gangway. They think that they will be ousted! Already even the Bear began to say that the “Furniture Worker” had nothing to do with it! Unfortunately, I conclude: State power continues to rot !
    1. Blackscorp
      Blackscorp 11 December 2012 07: 42 New
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      Well, with..ki, they began to sculpt from Serdyuk a sort of "Ivan the Fool", "it’s not their fault" .....

      "the officials of the Department of Property Relations (DIO, which was headed by Evgenia Vasilieva -" Rosbalt ") of the Ministry of Defense, in excess of the authority granted to them, organized the preparation and publication of the directive of the Minister of Defense ...".

      How is that? By their logic, Serdyuk is unmanageable or what? Didn't know what to sign ??

      1. smel
        smel 11 December 2012 07: 50 New
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        Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president.
        They said that there are no complaints and now is not the 37 year
        1. NIKOLAI T
          NIKOLAI T 11 December 2012 08: 52 New
          +1
          Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president.
          Are you sure that another president would have started this business?
          And who do you think he is?
          1. AK-47
            AK-47 11 December 2012 11: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: Nicholas T
            Are you sure that another president would have started this business?

            Are you sure that this president has begun?
            And where did he get mansions from all over Russia, and his savings were not frail, kickbacks usually reached the very top.
            A com can even come to him.
            GDP is probably not happy that it happened.
            1. tan0472
              tan0472 11 December 2012 12: 35 New
              +6
              Quote: AK-47
              And where did he get mansions from all over Russia, and his savings were not frail, kickbacks usually reached the very top.

              And in more detail - what are the mansions? Share the information. And do not forget about “sickly” savings.
              Just the facts, please.
          2. Nose
            Nose 11 December 2012 11: 51 New
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            Quote: Nicholas T
            Are you sure that another president would have started this business?

            If Medvedev had stayed for a second term, the country would not even have heard of theft in the Ministry of Defense! And the little women, led by their blind boss, would steer b and on!
            1. Ymidge
              Ymidge 11 December 2012 17: 09 New
              +6
              Quote: Nose
              If Medvedev stayed for a second term,

              If Medvedev had stayed for a second term, we were now America’s best friends! Quiet and smooth and full reboot! Syria - yes, take it! .. Magnitsky list - yes, for God's sake, at least ten! .. Putin’s resignation? .. Yes, even to hard labor! ..
              The main thing is that the iPhone stood rooted to the spot.
          3. Beck
            Beck 11 December 2012 14: 52 New
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            Quote: Nicholas T
            The theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president. Are you sure that another president would have started this business at all? And who do you think he is?


            These are the statements introduced by the propaganda of the ruling regime that I don’t understand at all. Well, no, in all holy of Russia another brainy, okromya Putin. Here in the whole of Russia he is the only one noted by God.

            And, what, would it not be and all of Russia would sink into the abyss? And in general, how can a state exist where 150 million is only brainy, and the rest are peasant, ignorant and fools.

            No disgrace RUSSIA Nikolay T.
            1. Rezun
              Rezun 11 December 2012 17: 21 New
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              And you ... it's ...- a troll ...
        2. Egen
          Egen 11 December 2012 08: 58 New
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          This is for 1,5 years so many frauds turned. And for all the time?
        3. omsbon
          omsbon 11 December 2012 14: 08 New
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          Quote: smel
          They said that there are no complaints and now is not the 37 year

          Suvorov once said that any quartermaster can be shot without trial after five years of service.
          So now you can hang up effective managers and directors of DIO even earlier, somewhere in a couple of years!
      2. Denis
        Denis 11 December 2012 07: 50 New
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        Quote: BlackScorp
        How is that? By their logic, Serdyuk is unmanageable or what? Didn't know what to sign ??

        All clearly show- Serdyukov will not give!
        1. Volzhanin
          Volzhanin 11 December 2012 21: 18 New
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          If they take a stool and ask, he can begin to answer these questions.
      3. slav4ikus
        slav4ikus 11 December 2012 08: 20 New
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        before the new year in 2011, such a directive of the Moscow Region appeared on the suspension of payments to military personnel who were out of state for half a year, as a result, a howl rose to heaven from the suggestion of journalists, and Tolik immediately made a mournful f ... but they say it wasn’t me who signed me ... hoo bitches nits hate
      4. Ross
        Ross 11 December 2012 09: 28 New
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        Blackscorp,
        I didn’t know what I was signing .... But doesn’t the law on responsibility of an official already exist ???? Such gross attempts to whiten and smear only increase irritation and residual trust in the authorities.
        1. bask
          bask 11 December 2012 13: 01 New
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          Ross And whoever doubted that they would NOT put Serdyuk ?????? Serdyuk, one of the many fleas attached to the state. means .. Cases with MO, This is the TOP of the CORRUPTION ICEBER !!!! And to power I feel not only distrust and irritation. And a feeling of loathing and disgust for these BODIES .. How much more do they need $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ To fill their rotten shells ?? ?????
          1. Volzhanin
            Volzhanin 11 December 2012 21: 40 New
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            bask IS THE TOP OF THE CORRUPTION ICEBER !!! Taburetkin is just a lightning rod. The top of the corruption iceberg will be higher.
      5. aksakal
        aksakal 11 December 2012 09: 55 New
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        Quote: BlackScorp
        How is that? By their logic, Serdyuk is unmanageable or what? Didn't know what to sign ??

        - cunningly bastard stole. Surely there’s a service from those fools with a beautiful justification of how it is profitable to sell this or that property of defense service with the signatures of appraisers. And grandmothers probably didn’t receive a serduk himself, but through affiliated persons who may not even be in a family relationship with a serduk and go into unconsciousness - like a grandma, he received it exclusively in his favor, and not for the serdyuk. And whoever doesn’t go into unconsciousness will get a myocardial infarction. And it must be proved so that later the international court in Hamburg (or where is it ?. Russia, after all, signed the relevant documents) didn’t decide to immediately release the heart, moreover, it can also decide reinstate him! That will be a laugh!
        For example, Gdlyan and Ivanov did not take bribes, they were great masters. Tengiz frauds were opened, for which Kunaev was removed. But they failed to plant a key “Tengiz” player - unexpectedly and on time, the events of 1986 in Alma-Ata followed, and Gdlyan and Ivanov themselves almost ended up in jail. And it was in the USSR! I strongly doubt that the hydra of corruption has since become weaker. I think just the opposite. And the 37th year is unlikely to help - it will turn into an instrument of struggle between the same corrupt officials. We will rejoice - that is shot. Here is another shot! Hooray. And then scratching our heads - we shoot, shoot, and something more and more corruption!
        Here other measures are needed. I don’t know which ones.
        1. Orik
          Orik 11 December 2012 11: 37 New
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          The fight against corruption is only a tool. Do not despair, "37 year" is effective in conjunction with the "Russian call to the party." The main sign of change is the change of elites, and the forerunner is the creation of henchmen, priobrazhenets and Semenovtsy, the Russian recruitment into the party. While this is not even theoretically, it means all lies and PR.
          There are three options for this recovery. "The first is a legal evolutionary re-election campaign, the change of ideologists and authorities. But what elections are in our country is understandable, therefore this option is not available. The second theoretically possible option is an apical coup, whether it’s military or civilian. According to experts, it’s unlikely but our country can’t be desired in any case. And, finally, the third option is a revolutionary change. Experts estimate it as more and more likely.
          Is there any recovery on the part of the leaders of Russia? The likelihood that this is so is a few percent, not more. Most likely, we are still faced with an episode that develops into a public relations campaign, which will not last long. It will be useful, strengthen the shaky, worthless, non-viable system, and this is better than the collapse, because the collapse will bury a lot of things in the literal sense of the word. And then everything will return to normal: after all, if the system works, then it will return any fluctuations to its original state. "Http://sulakshin.ru/korruptsiya-odna-iz-treh-golov-drakona/
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 11 December 2012 14: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: Orik
            http://sulakshin.ru/korruptsiya-odna-iz-treh-golov-drakona/

            - unfortunately, I can’t follow your link yet (I’ll be sure to familiarize myself with it), but I can guess from the last sentence that you touched my favorite topic, my hobby, so to speak.
            If there the author offends the theory of the evolution of complex systems, then he may be wrong. The system returns any fluctuations to the starting point just at the moments when it is stable. Is not stability the main goal of any evolving system?
            But in the so-called. the bifurcation point - in terms of social systems, this is a pre-revolutionary situation - just has the growth of any fluctuations to macroscopic proportions. In other words, any, even the most crazy idea can be developed - the main thing is that the element that “fluctuated” would be louder and stronger than the rest. This element, for example, can yell that the Aryan race is above all, and the rest of the races are worthy of either total annihilation or slavery to the Aryan race. Delirium, but at the bifurcation point this delusional fluctuation has grown to the size of the entire system. If anything, I dreamed about it and there wasn’t such a thing in history -)))))). Therefore, as a result, with your conclusion:
            Quote: Orik
            It will be useful, strengthen the shaky, worthless, non-viable system, and this is better than the collapse, because the collapse will bury a lot of things in the literal sense of the word.
            - reluctantly, but forced to agree. And then, if you bring the matter to the point boiling bifurcations is it possible what kind of fluctuation jumps out there?
            Pops up "urine of middle-aged people, still firewood!", What shall we do ?. Something scary -)))))
            1. Orik
              Orik 11 December 2012 16: 47 New
              +1
              It really doesn’t open, and the site itself works http://sulakshin.ru/ article "Corruption - one of the three heads of the dragon." But this is only Sulakshin’s blog, and significantly more here http://rusrand.ru/
            2. Orik
              Orik 11 December 2012 17: 13 New
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              The last two paragraphs are not mine, but a quote from Sulakshin, with whose thought I agree. Your statements also do not contradict this, until we have reached the boiling point, but we are stubbornly (!) Moving towards it. Indeed, at the boiling point, the system breaks up and you never know what pops up, but all other options gradually disappear. “Our” democracy is hardly capable of building, no one wants to change it. You can shoot it now only for the sake of satisfaction (this is the answer to the question you previously asked) because it will not give any positive result. We need a national idea, a change of system, new people, and then there is the meaning of “37 years old”, and so all the swarming in the swamp, he pulled out one hand, the other and his legs got stuck.
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 11 December 2012 20: 06 New
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                Quote: Orik
                You can shoot it now only for the sake of satisfaction (this is the answer to the question you previously asked) because it will not give any positive result. We need a national idea, a change of system, new people, and then there is the meaning of “37 years old”, and so all the swarming in the swamp, he pulled out one hand, the other and his legs got stuck.
                - Orik, I agree.
                Here is an indisputable, but also in its own opinion. I usually try to get acquainted with all points of view, here I do not agree with the author, but there are some healthy grains. After all, the wise say - in any conflict there is no completely guilty and completely right, both are usually to blame, one is only a little less -))))) http://vpk.name/news/80464_porazhenie_rossiiskoi_armii.html. Serdyukov will continue to stir up the minds for a long time, a very resonant and ambiguous figure, and perhaps even a thief. But this is my IMHO.
                1. Orik
                  Orik 11 December 2012 20: 48 New
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                  Yes, this is not an indisputable article, but much is true (the need to live within the means of the army, the role of Serdyukov, launching the economy), but everything needs to be considered as a whole. Skewed in the article on the relationship between the Moscow Region and the military-industrial complex, it raises the question if Serdukov is “looking,” did he really make decisions on importing equipment ?! Conflict is on the face, and the degree of its influence on the process is not obvious.

                  However, we are moving away from the topic of the country's life and vitality, here, in my opinion, all obviously clans are only interested in loot and power.
                  1. aksakal
                    aksakal 11 December 2012 22: 49 New
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                    Quote: Orik
                    However, we are moving away from the topic of the country's life and vitality, here, in my opinion, all obviously clans are only interested in loot and power.
                    - absolutely right. Moreover, it is NORMAL. You point to fuel, figuratively speaking, without which there is neither progress nor evolution, making this fuel the culprit of all ills. In fact, the rules of the game are important, in compliance with which this very struggle for power and money is carried out. You can establish such rules of the game, in which the best qualities of one or another people are realized, or vice versa. The rules of the game are established only by the people, not the ruler. The ruler is only forced to play according to the prevailing rules of the people. This is where the saying goes, "every nation deserves the ruler it deserves." If in Kazakhstan we already agree to rename Astana to Nazarbayev, then with our excessive reverence before the authorities, we deservedly deserve such a ruler.
                    1. Orik
                      Orik 12 December 2012 01: 07 New
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                      No, not normal. Do you want to reduce a person to the level of an animal? So Western liberalism and Putin, as a Westerner, do it perfectly, then it’s good, but Russia is degrading. Question from what? A person begins to behave like a person only when he is able to overcome the psychophysical level. The primary meaning is not spatial and not material, not corporeal, but existential meaning. A man becomes a man when he, as a spiritual being, transcends the limits of his physical and mental being.

                      Psychology considers the desire for power and money as the absence of high meanings. The pursuit of pleasure will never be satisfied because pleasure is only a byproduct of human activity. Even our distant ancestors understood this by developing their cause-effect relationship, seeing the meaning in "keeping the world from evil" - "the moral fall of people, putting the world on the brink of death" - "the main function of the state, saving the people from the final fall" - "symphony of authorities "-" spiritual self-sufficiency from the Western world "-" the foundation of the state on Christian love for God, the Church, power (authoritarian-conciliar), people, country, family, man. " The main task of power is to help a person save his soul, teach him to be better (!), And not to live better.
                      To this end, a citizen should be granted freedoms “from sin”, but not “for sin”. A person’s desire for freedom “for sin” must suppress the full power of state and church authority, which, in order to achieve this goal, is forced to have a “formidable” character. Whereas freedom “from sin” must be based on love for God and the Church created by Him for this purpose. Love for power, because it was put by God to help all people of goodwill and to protect them. Love for your people and their land, as they were given to us from Above as a kind of inheritance, which God did not give sanction to change. Love for the family and the people around us.
                      This value orientation, along with veche traditions, helped to suppress the spirit of individualism, self-love in people, encouraging the principle of community, collective collectivism, built on the principle of "one for all, all for one."
      6. Rezun
        Rezun 11 December 2012 17: 19 New
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        Well, what are you ... inadequate ....
        "Dad" will merge - "daughters" will swim ... Bring back the grandmother and we will disperse ...
    2. Bykov.
      Bykov. 11 December 2012 07: 54 New
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      Quote: mar.tira
      In Russia, criminals are used to covering their patrons.

      "Rosbalt", moreover, the "source" of information, or rather, the "drain barrel" of Liber-Elite. If Taburetkin had a “shaggy hand,” he would continue to sit in the Moscow Region.
      (... At the disposal of Rosbalt were materials from an investigation into the theft of property of the Ministry of Defense. It follows from them that the former head ...). As it turned out, they themselves must have sat and composed the entire editorial staff. But Serdyukov, without options, will get his own, it’s too much "resonance" to shut up without loss will not work.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 11 December 2012 08: 12 New
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        Quote: Bulls.
        And Serdyukov, without options, will get his own, it’s too much "resonance" to shut up without loss will not work.

        Are you sure about this? Judging by what the two first persons of the state say, if he gets it, then by the pope a thread, through a feather pillow.
        1. Bykov.
          Bykov. 11 December 2012 08: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Judging by what the two first persons of the state say

          Then they will lose face, not to understand this, they cannot. And for the sake of what, did they raise a wave?
          1. Egen
            Egen 11 December 2012 09: 02 New
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            they won’t lose, that's it, everything was calculated in advance, if there was a risk, then they would not have raised the “wave” :(
            1. Bykov.
              Bykov. 11 December 2012 10: 03 New
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              Quote: Egen
              they won’t lose, that's it, everything was calculated in advance, if there was a risk, then they would not have raised the “wave” :(

              Yes, how not to lose? In the next election, not only competitors will remember all this.
              1. Nose
                Nose 11 December 2012 11: 58 New
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                Quote: Bulls.
                Yes, how not to lose?

                I can’t understand what is valuable in this Serdyukov? Ordinary pitcher snout! We have dozens of such good things at any pub! And for his sake put on the line everything acquired by such labor.
                1. Ross
                  Ross 11 December 2012 12: 31 New
                  +7
                  Nose,

                  Here, most likely things are "family". Father-in-law, Zubkov, the closest of Putin’s entourage, was very angry at the disgrace of his daughter, now Serdyukov’s former wife. Well, someone probably knows what female jealousy is. At any cost, the offended woman is trying to trample her rival. That's probably Serdyuk and suggested, either you make a lover, or sit down. Surely they noticed how Serdyukov, in slippers and a dressing gown, rushed at the investigators during a search with a tiger and then “knocked out” his house arrest to his mistress. And then suddenly “wilted” and now the version about the unconscious woman has gone, like a woman was set up? Clearly visible, passed Vasiliev, his own skin is more expensive.
                2. military
                  military 11 December 2012 17: 53 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Nose
                  Ordinary pitcher snout! We have dozens of such good things at any pub!

                  "... And then he remembered where he saw these clear clean eyes ... in Odessa DOPR, where he himself was sitting on an ordinary task ..." drinks
              2. Egen
                Egen 11 December 2012 14: 54 New
                +3
                in what elections? :)))): ((((
              3. AleksUkr
                AleksUkr 11 December 2012 16: 27 New
                +2
                Mr. Churov will do everything for you. So do not fuss. It is said quite clearly - only the court can blame. But the matter, of course, will not reach the court. Like all other cases.
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 11 December 2012 09: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: Bulls.

            Then they will lose face, not understand this, they cannot

            And now speaking of his innocence, why are they doing this?
            1. Bykov.
              Bykov. 11 December 2012 10: 19 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And now speaking of his innocence, why are they doing this?

              He was pushed away from power, and therefore from money, away from him and he himself was "blown away." That they still can only sit in an armchair, but "tyrit" from the budget.
            2. Rezun
              Rezun 11 December 2012 17: 22 New
              0
              Yes they don’t say ---- hint ...
          3. predator.3
            predator.3 11 December 2012 12: 50 New
            +8
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Are you sure about this? Judging by what the two first persons of the state say, if he gets it, then by the pope a thread, through a feather pillow.


            That's when you begin to understand Joseph Vissarionovich and his struggle with the enemies of the people!
        2. Egen
          Egen 11 December 2012 09: 01 New
          +1
          Yes, it’s understandable why it’s bad to think about our tax and other inspection bodies, like they were idiots who didn’t understand anything :( It may well be that the minister is a pawn :( Only if the girls are all “diamond pawns”, then what is he ?: )))
        3. predator.3
          predator.3 11 December 2012 12: 49 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Are you sure about this? Judging by what the two first persons of the state say, if he gets it, then by the pope a thread, through a feather pillow.
          That's when you begin to understand Joseph Vissarionovich and his struggle with the enemies of the people!







          From
    3. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik 11 December 2012 08: 48 New
      +6
      Quote: mar.tira
      State power continues to rot!

      Well now amputation only.. and realizes it more and more ...
      1. Banshee
        Banshee 11 December 2012 09: 11 New
        13
        Hello, hello
        Judging by the fact that the two first persons of the state moo and what the media say, Serdyukov will not get anything at all. Blind image of an innocently injured and knowing poor bunny, that's all. The bunny was stupid, signed without looking (Ahhh, the whores talked, sucked, their heads were hammered, I have nothing to do with it, sorry ...), such a gullible ...

        Bunny ran on time where necessary. In slippers on a bare foot. And apparently, they will forgive the hare. Well, all the women have deceived. Women's brigade of destruction of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. In kind, each Congress medal must be issued. And who accepted these women by kagal is a separate issue, beyond the competence of this business.

        Once again they are trying to make us idiots. Like far from the election, forget. DO NOT FORGET.

        And more.
        Quote: Nicholas T
        Are you sure that another president would have started this business?


        Another is Medvedev? I am sure on 100% that I would not start. If only because he is clearly one of those who are "in the subject."
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 11 December 2012 09: 45 New
          14
          Quote: Banshee
          Blind image of an innocent victim and who knew nothing poor bunnies,

          And he will "sculpt a hunchback" - "Innocent I! They came to me themselves ..."
          1. WW3
            WW3 12 December 2012 00: 17 New
            +2
            Quote: Kaa
            And he will "sculpt a hunchback" - "Innocent I! They came to me themselves ..."

            That's how this character laughing good +
        2. Normal
          Normal 11 December 2012 11: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: Banshee
          DO NOT FORGET.

          Hello Roman. Forget, still forget.
          Resenting Serdyukov’s theme is a sign of good taste. But try to criticize his roof. Then immediately begins the "old song about the main thing"; there is no alternative ... nobody but ... So, FORGET. And Kaa, Aksakal, esaul and his comrades will help us. And not so forgotten for the sake of stability, tranquility and a full belly
          1. Volzhanin
            Volzhanin 11 December 2012 21: 51 New
            0
            Normal -Gold words not in the eyebrow, but in the eye.
    4. Rustam
      Rustam 11 December 2012 09: 13 New
      +6
      "deceived" him and "misled".
      ____
      there are simply no words -And he (Serdyukov) probably had no eyes and no ears, such a gullible one, although they would have come up with a better excuse
      like Chernomyrdin (deceased) They wanted the best, it turned out as always

      am
      therefore, this window dressing only annoys people - for 10 years no one has seen anything and then it’s just like a cornucopia, it’s scary to turn on the TV no the series went, catch the official’s corruption official (for how long)
      like people threw a bone, look, we are fighting) -Only dear rulers, our people are not so stupid as you think and he draws conclusions
      the last is just our house arrest in 13 rooms, in the USA they talk differently despite their ranks and ranks (the only thing the USA likes is that everyone is equal before the law)
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 11 December 2012 11: 07 New
        +4
        we can stop urinating on the corpse of Serdyukov, and the men? ........ give a place to the investigators
        1. Nose
          Nose 11 December 2012 12: 03 New
          +5
          Quote: strannik595
          we can stop urinating on the corpse of Serdyukov, and the men? ........ give a place to the investigators

          Investigators will not urinate on him. He is in their authority.
          1. Jaromir
            Jaromir 11 December 2012 16: 03 New
            +5
            Quote: Nose
            Investigators will not urinate on him. He is in their authority.

            To whom they point out, they will pour it on him! They do not care.
    5. YARY
      YARY 11 December 2012 11: 08 New
      +8
      It’s a pity that not the 37th
      1. WW3
        WW3 12 December 2012 00: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Ardent
        It’s a pity that not the 37th

        In those years, to the wall and shoot ...
        Here is the way interesting material almost to this topic...
        In some countries of the world, looting is imposed. In others, a very long time. Under our law, the term “looting” is not applicable. He is from war crimes. And to what happens in the emergency zone, the term "theft" is applicable.

        Article 266 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR, as amended in 1961, provided for punishment for the abduction, but only on the battlefield, of things that were wounded or killed. And covered the term "looting" only actions committed in wartime. Probably, due to the fact that there was no judicial practice on this type of crime, this article was excluded altogether from the new Criminal Code of 1997. So there are no marauders in Russia, from the point of view of the law.

        Article 63 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation considers aggravating circumstances: the commission of crimes in a state of emergency, spontaneous or other public action, as well as in mass riots. But this is only aggravating circumstances. There is simply no article itself.

        For example, during a plane crash, investigators cannot qualify the actions of amateurs of profit working here as theft or robbery. Because the main link of the investigation is missing - the victims. After all, they died. Violation of moral and ethical standards is not a matter of course, because Russian law does not even mention it.
    6. Rink
      Rink 11 December 2012 13: 29 New
      +4
      .... to the former head of the military department Anatoly Serdyukov, the Investigative Committee (SK) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints, since subordinates, including Evgeny Vasiliev, "deceived" him and "misled". ...

      So, the "official inconsistency" to the full height turned out to be incompetent?

      And to ask, where does the "non-participant" in the theft of white and fluffy Taburetkin real estate in elite areas - weak? Or was it he who ensured such a standard of living for the salary of a civil servant? Krasava ....

      Grandfather Stalin was simple: you can not cope with the job - what the hell do you take a place? incompetent people at the post of the Ministry of Defense with their stupidity cause more harm to the country than all the enemies combined. Do not match - quit! The report is on the table, and is free.
      Since he didn’t leave himself, he “led”, contemptuously calling the regular military personnel - people who, on duty, give their lives in defense of the interests of the country - "green men", then such a pancake, the figure must be put against the wall.
      I can imagine how much desire to serve arises among officers with whom their own (not enemy!) Minister of Defense treats in this way .... Is this not harmful to the country? !! And given that he piled up with combat training, arms purchases, military education and army equipment, this is no longer “incompetence”, here the system is viewed. Systematic and consistent action to reduce the country's defense. The tower is simply written on his forehead, a scumbag ... Theft is not the main damage from his activities. Where is counterintelligence looking? I think she has something to do here ....


      Subordinates, damn him, deceived ..... But what, he does not bear responsibility for the actions of his subordinates ?!

      That’s why Taburetkin will show up, hu from Putin ....
      I will closely monitor how the "furniture makers' case" will end.
    7. baron.nn
      baron.nn 11 December 2012 14: 26 New
      +1
      mar.tira:
      The first persons of our state have said more than once or twice that they continue the continuity of power ... We all remember what happened in the 90s ... Now we have embellished it a bit, but the essence has not changed ...
    8. starshina78
      starshina78 11 December 2012 19: 45 New
      0
      Even before the last election, when I was “bogged down” for contradicting those who extolled Putin, I said that this government was rotten, mired in corruption and family-friendly ties, and that it was not worth it to choose. So no! They called me here and the enemy, and someone even advised "to put on a stake." And it turns out that I was right and everyone is now shouting together that the government is rotten. Hypocrisy, friends! On the topic, it was immediately clear that Serdyukov would not be sent to the slaughter. He is the best friend’s son-in-law, and the crony’s power in our government has blossomed to the fullest. And don’t expect that in all corruption cases at least one more or less significant figure will appear. Putin once said: “We don’t give our own!”
  2. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 11 December 2012 07: 15 New
    +3
    well, holy prostate ... I wonder if he also has a golden toilet?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 December 2012 07: 31 New
      +8
      Quote: Sasha 19871987
      I wonder if he also has a golden toilet?

      piss them in faience is not comfortable.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 11 December 2012 20: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        piss them in faience is not comfortable.

        good yeah .... murmur is not musically ... drinks
    2. alexng
      alexng 11 December 2012 09: 33 New
      +2
      I don’t know what the toilet is, but the brains are rotten. It will be merged in any way. No one will risk because of him. It looks like they are just setting the stage (proven evidence) for this.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 11 December 2012 09: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: alexneg
        It looks like they are just setting the stage (proven evidence) for this.

        I think it will end with Serdyukov's “suicide” with subsequent speeches of “sincere” condolences
        1. Gorchakov
          Gorchakov 11 December 2012 11: 42 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I think it will end with "suicide" Serdyukov

          But this alignment of events cannot be ruled out ...
        2. Nose
          Nose 11 December 2012 12: 05 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I think it will end with Serdyukov's “suicide” with subsequent speeches of “sincere” condolences

          And you can quietly: a heart attack and a long coma, about five years, until they forget.
        3. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 11 December 2012 14: 59 New
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I think it will end with Serdyukov's “suicide” with subsequent speeches of “sincere” condolences

          And in the end they’ll write a runny nose of the 45th caliber wassat
  3. Vanek
    Vanek 11 December 2012 07: 15 New
    +3
    And why is he not in prison yet? request
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 11 December 2012 07: 18 New
      +6
      Quote: Vanek

      And why is he not in prison yet?

      So someone needs this, so as not to fly in!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 December 2012 07: 30 New
      +8
      Quote: Vanek
      And why is he not in prison yet?

      Hi Ivan, because it’s one, that the second of our tendeme says that there are no claims to him. And the fact that Serdyukov’s signature on the sale of an oil depot is garbage, he was hypnotized and forced to sign this document.
      1. Pit
        Pit 11 December 2012 08: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Vanek
        And why is he not in prison yet?


        Yes, damn it, why did you pester him. Well, he married his husband successfully. Lucky dude.
        1. Banshee
          Banshee 11 December 2012 09: 14 New
          +8
          The second of the tandem ... Is there a tandem, here's the question? Something seems to me that no longer. DAM spent his time, cleaned the chair, for this he received the promise. But what will happen next "at the court of the eternal emperor" - we'll see.

          All this looks strange: the first started the whole kitchen and is actually silent on this topic. The second fiercely defends Serdyukov, because he himself has ears in this heap. We’ll see, everything is clearly not clean here.
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 11 December 2012 10: 21 New
            10
            Quote: Banshee
            Is there a tandem, here's the question? Something seems to me that no longer. DAM spent his time, cleaned the chair, for this he received the promise. But what will happen next "at the court of the eternal emperor" - we'll see.

            Roman, yes there are no tandems and groups. It's simple, Medvedev wrote more than once a hat (ass), which is left in place as a sign that the place has been taken. Putin is the main in all these processes, they are all executors. My personal opinion: Putin is torn trying to take a higher place in it. It’s not a secret to anyone who is behind our homegrown oligarchy, a billionaire in the modern world, it’s impossible to become without the control of the global financial elite. In Russia, they created a system in which certain rules work, no one can go beyond them. Putin is in it in this system, he created it, he obeys the rules. The main task for him now is to keep the system in balance, that there was neither forward movement nor destabilization of the situation. This is where all these movements and throwings come from. Theatrical performance, someone having fun, someone watching with interest, and people sometimes pay with their lives without suspecting that they have become participants in the performance.
            1. Nose
              Nose 11 December 2012 12: 13 New
              +5
              Quote: baltika-18
              Putin is tearing into the world elite

              Why the hell is the world elite? .. Here he is the king! And who is there? .. Exactly - no one.
          2. military
            military 11 December 2012 10: 30 New
            +7
            Quote: Banshee
            All this looks strange: the first started the whole kitchen and is actually silent on this topic. The second fiercely defends Serdyukov, because he himself has ears in this heap. We’ll see, everything is clearly not clean here.

            it should be remembered that in those dashing years, the stool, as a power manager, was directly subordinate to the current second (which heated up the chair of the first) ... and today a barrel of shit just can’t drive past the second, which really faces a “red card” ... in in turn, it seems that the first one, who gave the go-ahead at the start of this barrel, once again, against the general background, expects to remain in the “offsite” ... repeat so, it seems, more understandable ...
      2. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 11 December 2012 16: 31 New
        +2
        They probably put a facsimile when he was busy with his harem.
  4. taseka
    taseka 11 December 2012 07: 22 New
    +8
    Not! Dad obviously has nothing to do with it - daughters, only they are crafty - to blame! Dad is a successful manager, he has no time for upbringing, numerous girls, he did not see and did not hear - he is all in a successful appearance (the truth is that 7 billions were stolen) but these minxes are simply innocent! That's all - sailed !!!
  5. ism_ek
    ism_ek 11 December 2012 07: 34 New
    14
    Serdyukov comes to the subordinate on his birthday, and there Jennifer Lopez dances .... Serdyukov thought an accident ...
    Serdyukov comes to the subordinate lover's home, and there is a 12-room apartment in the center of Moscow, with paintings by famous artists ....

    Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president. Therefore, they will leave him alone.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 December 2012 07: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: ism_ek

      Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president.

      Well, suppose we shoot Putin, who do you propose to put? Prokhorov or Zyuganov? That one, that the second clowns and do not have the support of the country's population.
      1. ostrovpan
        ostrovpan 11 December 2012 07: 54 New
        10
        Well, suppose we shoot Putin, who do you propose to put?

        this is the whole question! before the election, candidates were picked up so that a normal one! and the rest of the clowns
        1. Sergg
          Sergg 11 December 2012 08: 16 New
          +5
          Golden words!
      2. predator.3
        predator.3 11 December 2012 08: 38 New
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Prokhorov or Zyuganov?


        Probably better Zyuganov than this "tandem", it will not be worse!
        In 1998 when E.M. became Prime Minister Primakov, hoping that he would restore order; no, as soon as he put things in order in the economy, the EBN sent him to resign! but his government was much stronger and more professional than today.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 11 December 2012 09: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: predator.3
          it will not be worse !

          Yes you are an optimist laughing
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 11 December 2012 20: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes you are an optimist

            Sasha welcome! You're right ... oh, right. The Russian land does not become scarce on good souls
        2. Nuar
          Nuar 11 December 2012 16: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: predator.3
          as soon as he put things in order in the economy, EBN dismissed him!
          inappropriately simplify. Primakov was trying to figure out financial fraud. It just so happened that with the brow that Skuratov was trying to finish, Tanyusha Dyachenko got stuck on a large scale, and the tannin-dad was close to her hi

          Remind somebody as last name of the boy Vova who conducted the "Case of the prosecutor Skuratov"?
        3. Tersky
          Tersky 11 December 2012 20: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: predator.3
          but his government was much stronger and more professional than today.

          Ilham - Do you see him, the government? Is it in Russia? Judging by the deeds of ex MO, he is not ..... The Government of the Russian Federation for the coming day, in my opinion, in the person of two unique ..... who exactly I think is not worth specifying ..
          1. predator.3
            predator.3 12 December 2012 11: 59 New
            +1
            The usual Putiners question ... If not Putin, then who? “Vacuum of leaders” - is created by the government on purpose. Potential leaders are hushed up, deleted from the lists (see who should run and who were denied), defamed ... Instead, they offer to the alternative all the same clown dolls that have long grown together with power - Zu, Zhirik, Miroshu-paratrooper and, for a newcomer, Yo-Please, while prohibiting voting against everyone. I don’t want these candidates, but don’t care, vote! The protest movement is being discredited by “leaders” such as Germans, Dogs, Bulk, Red-headed, while nodding to the State Department!
      3. valokordin
        valokordin 11 December 2012 08: 48 New
        +2
        Zyuganov or how you choose, but about clowns and thieves, the difference is big. A clown could lead the province, and an actor in the United States.
      4. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 11 December 2012 08: 52 New
        +3
        Stockholm syndrome, some ... Power does not please, but a party, movement, a charismatic Leader, for which there would be not only a word, but I don’t know the Case either :(
      5. baltika-18
        baltika-18 11 December 2012 13: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        suppose we shoot Putin, who do you propose to put? Prokhorov or Zyuganov? That one, that the second clowns and do not have the support of the country's population.

        We have four consecutive elections, the top three in places is unchanged: Putin (Medvedev), Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky and beyond the little things in life. Performance. If someone is not from this "glorious" cohort, he is doomed. Even they will not be allowed to participate.
    2. smel
      smel 11 December 2012 07: 47 New
      +7
      Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president.
      For now, I want Mr. Medvedev to share not only Serdyukov’s responsibility, but his fate as well.
      1. Sergg
        Sergg 11 December 2012 08: 16 New
        +4
        That is, remained pink and fluffy like Serdyukov?
      2. Pit
        Pit 11 December 2012 08: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: smel
        For now, I want Mr. Medvedev to share not only Serdyukov’s responsibility, but his fate as well.


        So he did. He doesn’t live poorly, pisses, is healthy and does not soar about tomorrow.
      3. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 11 December 2012 08: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: smel
        For now, I want Mr. Medvedev to share not only Serdyukov’s responsibility, but his fate as well.

        Pavel, yes Serdyuk is not complaining about fate yet. He has stolen, and not a lot. Lucky guy this Serdyukov!
        1. Banshee
          Banshee 11 December 2012 09: 17 New
          +2
          Quote: smel
          Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president.
          For now, I want Mr. Medvedev to share not only Serdyukov’s responsibility, but his fate as well.


          Here !!! What are you on the president then?
          He seems to have not yet been hired by lawyers.
          And then, before the election, oh how far ...

          Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for a kick to Serdyukov and his patron (s).
      4. Black
        Black 11 December 2012 11: 55 New
        0
        He wrote in a golden toilet bowl and slept with Vasilyeva? lol
    3. merkel1961
      merkel1961 11 December 2012 09: 23 New
      +1
      So the sister of Serdyukov lived in that house, and Tolik himself was under a barrel. The translation of the shooters on subordinates in property crimes, such as blonde suckers shod, is one thing. But something is not heard, except for the praise, the assessment of the state of the aircraft by the first persons from the authorities, the military with extensive experience, analysts "scream" —with Serdyukov-Makarov, there was a direct destruction of defenses in the interests of the United States and NATO, and it all comes down to fraud of the battalion in skirts!
    4. military
      military 11 December 2012 11: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: ism_ek
      Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president. Therefore, they will leave him alone.

      hi besides everything, this is also a good reason for the dismissal of the Cabinet ... winked as an option to correct the rating of the owner ... wink type, "nothing personal, Dima, you understand ..." request
  6. iulai
    iulai 11 December 2012 07: 45 New
    +5
    all, gentlemen, comrades, they remove the stools from under the blow. he is poor, coming to spend the night at Vasilyeva, he has not seen all this luxury. Yes, together they were under the covers and designed all the colossus. just buyers again see surrounded by Putin and Medvedev. (and Vasilieva is good, JUICY!)
    1. svit55
      svit55 11 December 2012 23: 07 New
      +1
      Or maybe the girls, as is customary for swans, watered his poor clafelin? and he was unconscious and signed.
  7. AlexTarov
    AlexTarov 11 December 2012 07: 46 New
    10
    She loses her mound. And the media are trying to plunge us into the idea that Vasilieva is so crazy that she even dared to breed the simpleton minister. Passions calmed down, with the “locomotives” in the case decided, agreed with the UK, and began to “launder” Taburetkin. Rude and cynical.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 December 2012 07: 55 New
      18
      Quote: AlexTarov
      And the media are trying to get us involved that Vasiliev is so crazy that even a simpleton-minister dared to breed

      Not only threw up, but lured to bed, where she raped Serdyukov and forced to constantly come to her and satisfy the animal instincts of Vasilyeva. Only those who arrived with a search of the opera managed to wrest the victim Serdyukov from the clutches of Vasilyeva.
      1. Banshee
        Banshee 11 December 2012 09: 18 New
        +2
        He killed ... rzhunimaga.
      2. the polar
        the polar 11 December 2012 15: 31 New
        +2
        Alexander Romanov,
        That is not, then at the trial they will announce personal testimonyпYerdyukov, that he was a fag in life, so he didn’t go to Vasilyeva for whispers, but to make her repent of her crimes and confess. Because he had long suspected, and recently noticed that she lives in her thirteen-room apartment clearly beyond her means, and on her walls are paintings that he has already seen somewhere, but doesn’t remember exactly. But when citizen Vasilyeva, in response to his exhortations, once again intolerantly called him fag, he, i.e. column FROMпYerdyukov was offended in earnest and called the SK himself to personally help the valiant special forces to detain this hardened and slutty criminal Vasilyeva. For which he asks the court for leniency, and the government of the order for the birthday of his dear spouse to make her pleasant, for various minor troubles, in life.
    2. Krilion
      Krilion 11 December 2012 10: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: AlexTarov
      She loses her mound.


      she can otmazyvat him as much as necessary .. however, the answers to all the questions to Serdyukov are on the surface - nobody wants to notice them ... in fact, everything is painfully simple: 1. since Serdyukov signed papers for sale, then property valuation questions are included in his competence and responsibilities. 2. time it turned out to be "incompetent" because he was "misled", he was liable to go to jail if not for complicity in the theft, then for the criminal negligence shown, causing substantial damage to the state.

      in this regard, the statements of the ICR and medveputov that Serdyukov has no questions and he can continue to work - the essence or the statements of his accomplices or another example of complete official incompetence ...
      1. the polar
        the polar 11 December 2012 15: 46 New
        +1
        There will be many more aspects of this dirty business ahead.
        Without fail, questions should arise regarding military counterintelligence and the Main Military Prosecutor's Office, on whose materials the IC is currently working.
        On duty, the head of the military counterintelligence was obliged to report to the minister the first time he received compromising evidence about thefts, and not to conduct long-term surveillance, allowing tens of billions to be squandered.
        In this case, the leadership of the military counterintelligence and the Main Military Prosecutor's Office themselves bear criminal responsibility.
        Of course, they reported to Serdyukov, this is unequivocal and only realizing the futility of these attempts, they continued the secret collection of materials.

        In any case, they should be summoned to court and there to voice the whole background of this case, i.e. who patronized Serdyukov without authorizing the arrest of the entire group of criminals, or who obstructed counterintelligence, specially preparing the situation to the point of a political scandal.
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 11 December 2012 20: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Krilion
        he is liable to be in prison, if not for complicity in the theft, then for the criminal negligence shown, causing substantial damage to the state.

        He should not sit, but burn out in the crematorium’s furnace after the indicative execution ...
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 11 December 2012 20: 27 New
          0
          No need to make a martyr out of this stupid thief. To plant. And let him sit until he sews mittens for the amount that was stolen with his participation and connivance
  8. andrey903
    andrey903 11 December 2012 07: 51 New
    +1
    Serdyukov the pimp put the soldiers of his battalion under high officials, they protect him, he knows a lot
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 11 December 2012 09: 05 New
      +1
      Or maybe they are all from the same regiment?
  9. Pit Bull59
    Pit Bull59 11 December 2012 07: 56 New
    +7
    JOKE OF HUMOR: Poor, miserable Tolyan! And they imposed his subordinates on him, and completely different people placed them on their posts, and forced him to sign orders with orders by force! And these people set up an honest young man Taburetkin ... Wow they are not good! Spoiled, tarnished "honest name" Tolichki! He was made by the Moscow Region to become when he returned from the mowing. The Lithuanian rake was taken away and put in a ministerial chair ... But he didn’t want to! Because he knew that he would not really be given work, because the team was given to him from those people whom he had never seen or heard about them. So it turned out so bad ... Framed Anatole!
    Now seriously. Nothing will happen to him! Hand washes a hand ...
  10. amateur.
    amateur. 11 December 2012 08: 04 New
    +8
    In short Serdyukov is represented as a gullible, stupid boy, but where did our higher ones look? And this was such a person in our Russia - DEFENSE MINISTER, Noodles are again hung up to us - I don't believe. It is clearly seen that this gop company came to taste under Medvedev, and flew under Putin.
    1. Banshee
      Banshee 11 December 2012 09: 20 New
      +4
      Quote: amateur.
      it was tasted by the state-owned company under Medvedev, and flew under Putin.


      For the record! So the question is, based on this: is there now the so-called tandem?
      Or is Putin still one thing, and plush is another?
      Think about it ...
      1. military
        military 11 December 2012 15: 09 New
        +3
        Quote: Banshee
        For the record! So the question is, based on this: is there now the so-called tandem?

        And why, in fact, “now”? ... winked
        As the unforgettable Nikita Sergeyevich said in the film "Gray Wolves", answering the question of his son: "... After all, I thought something the same when I appointed them all ..." ...
        The topic of Putin’s motivation when choosing Medvedev’s candidacy for a throne heating pad has already been driven up and down ... Based on the goals set, the candidate was chosen quite successfully, but the risk is always the risk ...
        Given the biography of the GDP, and the traditions of the agency from which he is a native, it would be logical to assume that Mr. Serdyukov could have been deliberately taken to the highest level and put a successor as a landmine ... Putin is unlikely at the time of adoption a personnel decision, did not have an exhaustive lens for Serdyukov ... But Caesar, leaving with the clear intention of returning, could well have needed just none other than a potential terry swindler (and, preferably, from the inner circle), which in a certain nutrient medium would certainly activates ... which happened exactly according to plan ...
        The ambitiousness and euphoria from the elixir of power, combined with the psalms of the inner circle, also did their job - Medvedev felt too late what he was sitting on ... Feverish throwings only indicate that there are illusions about Putin’s intentions to undermine the landmine under the prime minister and his cabinet, Medvedev has no ...
        Here, in fact, is the end of the tandem tale drinks
        1. Jaromir
          Jaromir 11 December 2012 16: 08 New
          +6
          Quote: military
          Here, in fact, is the end of the tandem tale

          In general, the usual story: was there a boy? Rather, how much is left for him?
          1. military
            military 11 December 2012 16: 29 New
            +3
            Quote: Jaromir
            In general, the usual story: was there a boy?

            drinks it seems the boy is quite ripe ... for a whipping ... laughing
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 11 December 2012 13: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: amateur.
      It is clearly seen that this gop company came to taste under Medvedev, and flew under Putin.

      This only suggests that Putin is not stupid. He put Serdyukov in 2007, a year before the presidential election of 2008. The bulk of the reforms passed into Medvedev’s presidency, Putin took the arrows off himself, created the image of a fighter against corruption, it’s not like deeds, they are to blame, he is raking. I’m thinking one thing. Are they really holding us all for suckers? They think that the people have already become so stupid that they can’t tell black from white?
      1. the polar
        the polar 11 December 2012 15: 51 New
        +4
        baltika-18,
        But you distinguish, and understand. Also, most people understand everything, what kind of artist plays what role. It’s just that there is no organizing political structure in Russia yet, and the situation is ripening and warmed up by the affairs of the “vertical of power” criminals themselves. No matter how much they want it.
        1. Ymidge
          Ymidge 11 December 2012 17: 19 New
          +4
          Quote: Polar
          Also, most people understand everything, what kind of artist plays what role.

          Yes, our people are brainy! Interestingly, on the sweepstakes they still don’t put on “put” - “not put on” and what is the coefficient? ..
  11. Bykov.
    Bykov. 11 December 2012 08: 08 New
    +8
    Serdyukov, you need to be punished for the damage that he inflicted on the army as a saboteur.
    1. Pit
      Pit 11 December 2012 10: 06 New
      +2
      And what's the point of punishing him? Just remove everything that you have acquired not by hard labor and attach it to the furniture factory as the senior assistant of the younger student, let him work.
      It is necessary to punish those who put him to this position, protected and gave orders. And something tells me that GDP and plush are the same pawns in this matter.
      1. Bykov.
        Bykov. 11 December 2012 10: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Pit
        And something tells me that GDP and plush are the same pawns in this matter.

        And who, then, is this “omnipotent” chess player to move such “pawns”?
        1. Pit
          Pit 11 December 2012 10: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Bulls.
          And who, then, is this “omnipotent” chess player to move such “pawns”?


          See above. Among those who rose in the 90s, did not sit down, survived and now does not shine.
          But even they are essentially dancing to the tune of the Saxons.
  12. ostrovpan
    ostrovpan 11 December 2012 08: 14 New
    +1
    poor poor Serdyukov! trusting soul! innocently injured! You must either restore or increase! no up promotion! because he worked so effectively !!!
  13. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 11 December 2012 08: 16 New
    +1
    Wow, damn it! deceived the orphan! Also, holy simplicity was found. A bunch of evil aunts were deceived by a simple. they wouldn’t make people laugh. They are for the most part not so simple and understand perfectly well that it is impossible to do such things without him. Another thing is that they have everything properly covered up and all documents are either in a safe place or destroyed.
  14. Apollo
    Apollo 11 December 2012 08: 16 New
    11
    Good morning everybody!
    After reading the article, especially the first paragraph, one involuntarily inclines to the idea that the investigating authorities got a clear installation for the time being do not touch Serdyukov! -This is unequivocal and there can be no two opinions.

    1. Quote — that the Investigative Committee (SK) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints about the former head of the military department, Anatoly Serdyukov, since his subordinates, including Evgeny Vasiliev, “deceived” him and “misled”.
    let's say they deceived and misled, BUT Serdyukov has a huge apparatus in the form of financial management.
    2. As the former head of the Ministry of Defense Serdyukov bears full responsibility for everything that happened in the department subordinate to him.
    3. I strongly doubt that Serdyukov was not aware of what was happening. There would be no blessing, there would be no embezzlement. We are talking about billions of rubles!
    A stealing gut is thin to commit theft for such an astronomical amount.
    4. It seems to me that if the resonance of the society on embezzlement reaches its peak. Serdyukov will be condemned BUT conditionally.

    All these are my assumptions.
    1. qwertynsan
      qwertynsan 11 December 2012 08: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: Apollon
      .. as the former head of the Ministry of Defense Serdyukov is fully responsible for everything that happened in the subordinate department.

      and that's it
      1. Banshee
        Banshee 11 December 2012 09: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: Apollon
        The Investigative Committee (SC) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints,


        Translated, it sounds like "is." But I completely agree with you, in terms of the fact that a command from above on the otmaz is given. BUT: apparently, the team was given from the prime minister’s cabinet, not the presidential one.

        Although he wore packages, Serdyuk seems to be in the presidential. To the lover.

        Quote: Apollon
        as the former head of the Ministry of Defense Serdyukov bears full responsibility for everything that happened in the department subordinate to him.


        The whole question is, in what sizes! And who will determine these sizes.

        Quote: Apollon
        I strongly doubt that Serdyukov was not in the know


        He seemed to be signing documents, nothing? Or does it look like "signed, but didn't look that?" Class! "Darling, what have you got there - Oh, my love, so, little things ... we sell unnecessary canisters - Ah, well, come on-ki-ki, I’ll wait ... in the evening ... murrr." if the Kola knot was sold like that, then there are no questions ...
        A fool in power - it’s worse not to come up with.
        But he doesn’t look like a fool ...

        Quote: Apollon
        if the resonance of society on theft reaches its peak. Serdyukov will be condemned by BUT conditionally.


        Yes, they wanted to spit on this society.
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 11 December 2012 09: 43 New
          +2
          Greetings to you Roman! hi In general, I agree with you, but
          Quote: Banshee
          Yes, they wanted to spit on this society.

          but this number will not work for them.
    2. merkel1961
      merkel1961 11 December 2012 09: 44 New
      +2
      Of course, according to Putin, the inevitability of punishment plays the highest priority, but what is the conditional term for the criminal, nothing. And the fact that "we have not 37th year" when the leader of the gang was put on the wall first, already reminds the first Putin’s decree on the jurisdiction of Yeltsin and his entire entourage.
  15. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 11 December 2012 08: 21 New
    +5
    E, whoever doubts, will soon go even wider and lower until they reach the clerks - that’s them and they will be punished in all the strictness of the law ...
    1. Banshee
      Banshee 11 December 2012 09: 32 New
      +2
      The scribes especially. We are fighting corruption at all levels.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 11 December 2012 13: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Banshee
        We are fighting corruption at all levels.

        Putin, in a speech to proxies, said that corruption must be fought everywhere, even on the street. I would have noted his heroic patience in this matter. To endure 12 years and only now give it away. belay
    2. Apollo
      Apollo 11 December 2012 09: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Brother Sarych
      E, whoever doubts, will soon go even wider and lower until they reach the clerks - that’s them and they will be punished in all the strictness of the law ...


      I greet you! If you follow your logic ................ then we too will face the same fate, i.e. us with you, which I strongly doubt! Well then you need to transplant everyone.
  16. Sergg
    Sergg 11 December 2012 08: 25 New
    +3
    A thief should sit in jail. Golden words from the movie.
    And now we are watching a completely different movie, I doubt that they will say "I said Brokeback!" In this movie. We and other films "Pyatnitsky Department" form a new police look about which Medvedev so cherished.
    Although our law enforcement officers have done well, they have almost reached the very top !!! You understand - almost to the very top, only on the very last floors the passage is closed.
  17. Pit Bull59
    Pit Bull59 11 December 2012 08: 33 New
    +3
    Quote: Sergg
    You understand - almost to the very top, only on the very last floors the passage is closed.

    Yes, only the stairs there are slippery ...
  18. PatriotizTAT
    PatriotizTAT 11 December 2012 08: 40 New
    +5
    C'mon ... tired of writing about Papa Carlo no what will happen if they remove Putin, you know how much we learn new about the frauds there ... scary numbers !!!
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 11 December 2012 08: 52 New
      +2
      The numbers will be terrible, how much slop and dirt will come out, it is terribly scary to stand up for the country and for the people. The less you know the better you sleep
    2. Egen
      Egen 11 December 2012 08: 56 New
      +1
      why do we suddenly find out and who suddenly removes, everything is grabbed there :(
      1. Banshee
        Banshee 11 December 2012 09: 33 New
        0
        Will not be removed. There - captured, but still not all who are needed are captured.
  19. qwertynsan
    qwertynsan 11 December 2012 08: 49 New
    +2
    As I understand it, everything is in ignorance. The authorities, the innocent sheep, which are deceived by subordinates. Soon, Shoigu will begin to deceive, and he will also not notice anything until they are seized. We live wonderful. When will they choke? The piece is very large. Or the saying does not apply to celestials?
  20. korvin1976
    korvin1976 11 December 2012 08: 53 New
    +3
    Personally, I get the impression that the situation will develop like this:
    New year's night.
    Congratulation of the President:
    Dear Russians .... blah blah blah
    Here is my gift for the New Year, the former Moscow Region Serdyukov is guilty.

    On the one hand, this is certainly absurd, but ....... judge for yourself. Put all the eggs in one basket, it's on the verge of a fool.
    Started a business on the grief of Serdyukov, Hooray-hooray
    They waited a little bit and started a business on Serdyukov himself, again hooray hooray
    As a result, we have at least two loud cheers!
    In the event that Serdyukov was pulled right away, only one thing.
    So what is better two or one?
    The people are politics and psychology, think with your head!
    1. Banshee
      Banshee 11 December 2012 09: 34 New
      +1
      That’s the fact of the matter, they have started two cases, but they will bring one to the end. With a harem. And the second to the thunder of fanfare and shackles quietly hushed.
    2. Black
      Black 11 December 2012 11: 58 New
      0
      And you, my friend, Utopian! Is your last name Campanella?
      1. korvin1976
        korvin1976 11 December 2012 12: 35 New
        +2
        Utopian is not a Utopian, but I can put a series of sequential actions in a row. And this series, I hope, still has a place to be. I will not give examples of chain links, as they say, I will remain with my own. And in most cases, still do not believe it. The point is to pour then from empty to empty ...........?
        At least what I spoke about in 2009 is happening now, with enviable regularity. It may not be exactly as I wanted, and not so fast, but it happens.
        Well, in order to still think about what is happening, there is such a psychological trick: A bad cop, a good cop. Scroll the film of events back, then you will understand what I’m talking about, you won’t be able to, well then do not blame me.
  21. Egen
    Egen 11 December 2012 08: 55 New
    +1
    “under a loan agreement, she transferred these funds to VitaProject LLC, whose founders were Expert and Alexey Naumkin”

    So they bought the objects with stolen money ?! Well done !! Billions were chopped off from nothing! Yes, they need to write textbooks, and then all sorts of Westerners teach us like they are such successful entrepreneurs! :))

    And the villain comes out - a sexual maniac, one Naumkin manipulated behind the scenes ... the rest are all poor girls :( :))
  22. KIA
    KIA 11 December 2012 09: 00 New
    +1
    Now the noise will calm down and find a new stool, bread position, the brigade does not give up.
  23. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov 11 December 2012 09: 00 New
    +2
    I think that above Vasilyeva, law enforcement officers will not be allowed to poke around ... The upper bar of the legal field of activity of the investigating authorities is clearly defined and voiced by the prime minister ... The presumption of innocence begins to operate above this bar in Russia ....
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 December 2012 09: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Gorchakov
      I think that above Vasilyeva, law enforcement officers will not be allowed to poke around ..

      If Putin shows his will, then not only will he turn up, but he will be imprisoned.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 11 December 2012 10: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If Putin shows his will, not only will he turn up, but he will be imprisoned.

        Again, if? He will not show anything, he is slowly moving to its natural end.
      2. Gorchakov
        Gorchakov 11 December 2012 12: 35 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If Putin shows his will, then not only will he turn up, but he will be imprisoned.

        Putin has shown will and gave the go-ahead ... Things have gone wrong ... If he continues to show his will, then he will not be the president, but the monarch .... Do you all achieve this? I heard his opinion on TV and there he said everything correctly and specifically ... But Medvedev openly defined this level of responsibility and his words are an oral order for the investigating authorities .. In addition, he called the investigators goats, which Putin never allowed himself ... Medvedev was completely overwhelmed, considering himself to be the navel of the earth ... It was with him that these Serdyukov came to taste and it was with him that a female battalion of tax officers and relatives was introduced into the Moscow Region to clean and cover his rear ... That would continue if it weren’t for the president has changed .... Personally, I have always been against the liberal policies of Medvedev, his Human Rights Council, his young liberal government ... I was always outraged when this blogger-lawyer, pretending to fight corruption, destroyed old cadres and broke on the pretext of rotation human destinies ... I consider him to be the main successor to the Gorbachev case ... And Putin? Putin should not intervene anywhere else, except that he is simply obliged to change the government along with the prime minister, thereby giving the SC freedom of action ... By doing this, he will allow law enforcement officers to go up one more step in solving corruption cases ... But just do not intervene into the affairs of the investigation, otherwise all his enemies to the whole of Russia and the whole world will trumpet that Putin is a dictator ....
  24. omsbon
    omsbon 11 December 2012 09: 01 New
    +6
    Please note that the status of the stool began to change, there was an effective manager to which there were no complaints, and now he is a deceived, poorly seeing loshara minister. I think that soon it will go down.
  25. Olego48
    11 December 2012 09: 08 New
    +1
    They used to say “SON OF THE REGION”, and everyone understood that the boy is an orphan and serves the Motherland ... And with the appearance of Serdyukov at the head of the Ministry of Defense, they started saying “Daughter of the OBORONSERVICE”, and everyone understands that she’s another lover and is stealing again ...
  26. Garrin
    Garrin 11 December 2012 09: 10 New
    +2
    Do not plant for theft, over non-performance of duties and criminal negligence must sit down.
  27. Bubo
    Bubo 11 December 2012 09: 19 New
    +1
    It's funny to look at this whole "life." Satrics and humorists spoke a lot about this, and the people pick up: the government (celestials) lives separately, and the people separately. This statement is the truth from which it can be concluded that there are NO STATES, but there are only peculiar relationships, regulated by laws, acts, decrees, etc., of individual large and not very groups of people (people, "bureaucrats", "celestials", "thieves with connections "and others) in a single land area. And all this is called Russia.

    PS: homo homini lupus est!
  28. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 11 December 2012 09: 24 New
    +7
    It is very unfortunate, but my faith in Putin, even with my great desire to believe him, received a great slap in the face from this affair. Indeed, the gangster’s codec, not the government. Learned from the Clintons and about. amers.
    The desire to save the bear for Putin will result in the people turning away from him. The surname "Putin" is still writing with a capital letter, but already thinking.
    I think that in the place of Putin, Medved would not forgive him anything, but took the opportunity to sink to the end!
    You can’t be liberal with liberals!
    1. military
      military 11 December 2012 16: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Oleg147741
      The desire to save the bear for Putin will result in the people turning away from him.

      do you still believe that he has such a desire? ... do not allow the opposite? ... repeat
    2. Orik
      Orik 12 December 2012 01: 15 New
      0
      Only gullible optimists write with the big, and realists have long been writing with the small.
  29. tambourine 2012
    tambourine 2012 11 December 2012 09: 42 New
    +2
    “The Investigative Committee (SC) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints about the former head of the military department, Anatoly Serdyukov, since his subordinates, including Yevgeny Vasilyev,“ deceived ”him and“ misled ”. For the loss of capitalist vigilance, the execution
  30. military
    military 11 December 2012 10: 00 New
    +1
    "... From the materials of the case it becomes clear that the further investigation will not advance" up ", but" in breadth ... "
    and "pyramidal" ... recourse
    "... known - swans sing for the first time
    at that hour when death will be felt ...
    but it would be nice if other singers
    died before singing ... " repeat - this is known to both the authorities and the stool ... bully
  31. Olego48
    11 December 2012 10: 02 New
    +3
    Serdyukov sits and thinks: I pulled her (Vasiliev) out of shit, shared my bed with her, and he gave her tsatskas and paintings from the museum, won her the Order of Honor, and she treated me like that. Yes, you won’t envy the UK, what you need to come up with and how to fence off “stools” when all the strings lead to it, and therefore they make nonsense.
    1. military
      military 11 December 2012 12: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Olego48
      Yes, you won’t envy the UK, what you need to come up with and how to fence off “stools” when all the strings lead to it, and therefore they make nonsense.

      hi if the copyright for all these "literary and legal pearls" really belongs to the UK ... then Medvedev in his emotional assessment ("goats") is not so far from the truth ... recourse
  32. Konsmo
    Konsmo 11 December 2012 10: 36 New
    +3
    In general, the assessment of a mansion of 90 lemons and the simultaneous transfer there of 300 lemons for construction and parallel privatization, this is a prison.
    It will be difficult for Tolik to get out of it.
  33. Stiletto
    Stiletto 11 December 2012 10: 54 New
    +1
    Smeared, not the first time. Unfortunately, they are not afraid of such “difficulties”.
    1. SSR
      SSR 11 December 2012 11: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Konsmo
      It will be difficult for Tolik to get out of it.
      oh .. missed)))
      in the decisions on initiating a case of fraud in the sale of a country house in the Krasnodar Territory (the so-called "Villa Serdyukov"), - on the role in the events of the ex-head of the military department reported extremely dry and evasive:

      So this is the sad thing .... that they cover Serdyuk and sew with white thread ... they think they’re not visible to the people and "people pick it up" .. like not for the first time .. you think .. ordinary people ...
      In general, a paradox turns out .. a heart and a bear cost more than 60 tons of Russian citizens
  34. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 11 December 2012 11: 12 New
    +1
    So they will cover him (a bit), they don’t give up their “friends”. That we have not the 37th year, yes, but this is not the basis for covering the traitors of the Motherland. And this is how litmus paper shows the real essence of who is who. Here or VV Putin was terribly afraid that the "net" were touched or they were all together. After all, no one canceled the logic. Ugly he looks. Very ugly! Because of the traitor and enemy of the people, the stools can be substituted so only that I wrote a little about.
  35. Averias
    Averias 11 December 2012 11: 32 New
    +2
    Let this be the fruit of my sore imagination :-) Damn it, let's say the fact that Serdyukov "fell" a victim of unbridled matriarchy and female chauvinism. Suppose that he suffered a psychological trauma from a woman in childhood (delirious, most ridiculous). We admit that he, all tucked up and henpecked, carried out the will of "formidable" and greedy furies. Even if they found him in Vasilyeva’s apartment almost in his underwear, maybe they practiced hard BDSM (slave and mistress). Then it turns out that these furies had power over him even before the post of Minister of Defense, since he brought them all along with him? Do you have friends, does it fit in your head? I have nothing at all. And where then did the different services look? And most importantly, how to be this signature on the documents. Or what comes of it, they seized his seals and, under the threat of a whip, forced to signatures? Wonderful, by golly.
    1. Black
      Black 11 December 2012 12: 00 New
      0
      And what ..... a wonderful script for a porn film. Go with a bang! repeat
  36. Strashila
    Strashila 11 December 2012 12: 06 New
    0
    Like, just a sucker ... and this should write off everything.
  37. Cavas
    Cavas 11 December 2012 12: 08 New
    +3
    It follows from them that the Investigative Committee (SK) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints against the former head of the military department, Anatoly Serdyukov, since his subordinates, including Yevgeny Vasilyev, “deceived” him and “misled” him.

    Ugh ....................... .......................... untranslatable Russian folklore!

  38. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 11 December 2012 12: 46 New
    +1
    This naive guy is a little bit, and why they shot it if there are no claims smile ?! Yes, you can’t refuse logic! And the fact that the leader is responsible for those subordinates whom they typed do not know ?!
  39. wax
    wax 11 December 2012 13: 49 New
    +1
    I wonder if Serdyukov uses the chance given to him to shoot himself. Or a heart attack?
  40. sergskak
    sergskak 11 December 2012 13: 57 New
    +1
    Change places and it will be normal! Maybe something will change. I want to believe it! But for all the performances of our "sweet couple" it seems that they are preparing people to simply let everything go on the brakes.
  41. erased
    erased 11 December 2012 15: 14 New
    +2
    All in white and clean. And all around are enemies. Straight Malchish-Kibalchish! Only for some reason I can’t believe it. Absolutely. And why would it?
    1. military
      military 11 December 2012 15: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: erased
      Straight Malchish-Kibalchish! Only for some reason I can’t believe it. Absolutely. And why would it?

      maybe a box of cookies under the arm and condensed milk dripping from the lips give out ... repeat
      1. erased
        erased 11 December 2012 16: 30 New
        +1
        Vernyak! So it was a blast! good
  42. iulai
    iulai 11 December 2012 15: 46 New
    +2
    Taburetkina will be taken out from under the blow, if he begins to give out buyers, then there will be familiar faces of Putin and Dimon!
  43. F-22
    F-22 11 December 2012 16: 20 New
    +2
    Everybody count!
    1. military
      military 11 December 2012 16: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: F-22
      Everybody count!

      one ... like lamb on a skewer ... laughing
  44. i-gor63
    i-gor63 11 December 2012 16: 44 New
    0
    Sorry. And it all started so promisingly. But it will be so - he did not dance in the Temple and stole a bottle of vodka in a store. Yes, not 37 !!!!
  45. Pilot200809
    Pilot200809 11 December 2012 17: 25 New
    +2
    Taburetkin includes a fool. He feels the ass fried, so he pretends to be an innocent ram. Like, this is my sheep laminated. Oh well.
    1. military
      military 11 December 2012 17: 29 New
      0
      Quote: Pilot200809
      He feels ass fried,

      in a specific context, the second word, however, is spelled with a capital ... repeat
  46. Captain ata
    Captain ata 11 December 2012 17: 40 New
    0
    Where is the ship headed by the deaf-mute, the stupid (very mildly said) captain and his kmanda of thieves?
  47. F-22
    F-22 11 December 2012 21: 47 New
    0
    Under the USSR, in the late 80s, the Pacific Fleet was a formidable force. Two aircraft carriers, dozens of surface ships of the 1st and 2nd rank, dozens of submarines of all classes, the atomic reconnaissance Ural.
    In fact, even under Brezhnev, an active program began to build an ocean fleet, if not equal to the US Navy, then at least not much inferior. Now we can say that if the USSR were preserved, then this program would be brought to the end. By 2000, the Soviet Union would have had only nine aircraft carriers, and there was still a large-scale program for the construction of the "Orlan", "Anteev" and other unique submarine and surface ships.
    And now Mistral ... by the way, why not return 141 for revision!
  48. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 11 December 2012 22: 34 New
    0
    here is informative material about our power and from 25 minutes specifically about serdyukov http://mironovboris.livejournal.com/43442.html
  49. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 11 December 2012 22: 54 New
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  50. tomket
    tomket 11 December 2012 23: 19 New
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    why was there all the fuss if Upyrenko declared almost HOLY aka APOSTOL? Have you been shown the location? Like, but it all seemed to you, and in general there are evil tongues .... To mine, Medvedev either drinks Gummy berry juice, and we don’t knock it down, or frankly spits people in the face.