Gullible Serdyukov has nothing to do with it

In possession of "Rosbalt" were the investigation materials about the theft of property of the Ministry of Defense. It follows from them that the Investigation Committee (SK) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints against the former head of the military department, Anatoly Serdyukov, because his subordinates, including Yevgeny Vasilyev, “deceived” him and “misled”. But the circle of classmates Vasilieva, who have become accused in the case, may expand. Investigators suspect that close friend Vasilyeva, head of the Main Directorate of Arrangement of Troops (GUOV) Lyudmila Egorina took part in real estate frauds.

"Abusing trust" Serdyukov

It should be noted that in most of the materials of the Military Investigation Department of the RF IC, for example, in resolutions on initiating a case of fraud when selling a country house in the Krasnodar Territory (the so-called "Serdyukov villa") - on the role of former military department in the events it is reported extremely dry and evasive: “the officials of the Department of Property Relations (DIO, headed by Yevgeny Vasilyev - Rosbalt) of the Ministry of Defense, exceeding the powers granted to them, organized the preparation and publication of directives defense nistra ... " In these and some other materials of the case, a full legal assessment is given of the actions of the defendants - Vasilyeva, Egorina, Smetanova, Zakutaylo and others ("exceeding authority", "out of mercenary motives", etc.), and the actions of the head of the military department are not characterized. Moreover, even the names of Serdyukov are not in the documents, everywhere he is simply referred to as “the Minister of Defense”.

However, in materials on fraud with shares of OAO 31 GPISS and real estate GUOV, investigators assess Serdyukov’s actions. "Persons (Vasilyeva, Yegorina and Zakutailo - Rosbalt), who performed managerial functions in Oboronservis OJSC and ... (the subsidiary structures of this joint stock company are listed, including those where Zakutymailo was the general director, Rosbalt), fraud and abuse of trust, misleading the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense and shareholders, transferred payment orders to the account of Legal Support Center Expert (company headed by Vasilieva Ekaterina Smetanova - Rosbalt) for the total amount of 234 million 900 thousand . RU bley. "

That is, according to the latest version of the RF IC, Vasilyeva was simply deceiving his gullible boss Serdyukov, and he himself did not know anything about the scams that his subordinates "scrolled" behind his back.

Classmates in the Ministry of Defense

From the case file it becomes clear that further investigation will move not "up", but "in breadth." Investigators are now exploring in detail the activities of Vasilyeva’s friends, who are trapped in the Defense Ministry system. First of all, it is about classmate Vasilyeva in the Faculty of Law of the St. Petersburg State University Lyudmila Egorina, who at various times occupied the positions of Acting. Director General of JSC Oboronservis and the head of GUOV. In particular, an investigation is underway to sell GUOV facilities at a lower price.

"In June 2011, the general director of OAO" GUOV "Yegorina L.M ... performing managerial functions in a commercial organization contrary to its legitimate interests and protected interests of the state, in order to reap the benefits and advantages for those leading and managing OAO Granit-Kuznechnoye" doing business in the rubble market of granite within the boundaries of St. Petersburg, wishing to please the persons who are members of the governing bodies of OAO GUOV and OAO Oboronservis (meaning Vasilyev - Rosbalt), and others statement on the implementation of the profitable enterprise LLC 436 KNI of JSC Granit-Kuznechnoye at a lower price. "

According to the investigators, Yegorina also illegally donated to Granit-Kuznechnoye a license for the right to use subsoil resources at the Prudy-Mokhovoye-Yaskinskoye deposit.

The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation believes that Yegorina and Vasilyeva took an active part in the scam selling buildings in Moscow’s Bolshoi Predtechensky Lane, which belonged to GUOV.

"4 July 2011 members of the board of directors of Oboronservis OJSC (composed of the chairman - head of the DIO of the Ministry of Defense Vasilyeva, members - head of the department for coordinating the exercise of rights of the owner of the MO Shtykulin, acting director general of the JSC" Oboronservis "Yegorina) commercial organization and the legally protected interests of the state, approved the transaction for the sale of this property complex LLC "Theorem" at a lower price ".

The investigation concludes that "the unlawful actions of the said persons led not only to the damage caused by GUOV, but also caused a violation of the property interests of its founder, the Russian Federation." The amount of damage from a deal with buildings in Bolshoi Predtechensky is estimated at 202 million rubles.

Property Ministry of Defense privatized the "military" money

The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation Armed Forces of Russia built in detail the whole scheme under which the former fellow students acted, and also found out where they got the money to buy real estate from the Defense Ministry on the cheap in their own interests.

According to the investigation, on April 10 of 2009, Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov appointed Yevgeny Vasilyev, the head of the DIO, and 15 of February, 2011 of the year and. about. General Director of Oboronservis became Egorina, who "in the period of 1996-2001, together with Vasilyeva, studied at St. Petersburg State University." By decision of the head of the military department, Vasiliev and Egorin were included on the boards of directors of a number of subholdings and subsidiaries of Oboronservis OJSC. 1 On April 2011, a meeting of the board of directors of OAO Oboronservis was held, at which Capital Consulting, as proposed by Vasilyeva, as an organization providing property valuation services for the military department. At the same meeting, Expert Legal Support Center LLC was granted the right to provide agency services in real estate sales.

As noted in the case file, Vasilyeva had previously worked as a lawyer in a company "affiliated with Capital Consulting LLC. And Yekaterina Smetanova, general director and founder of Ekspert, was a classmate of Vasilyeva and Yegorina." This may indicate conspiracy and self-interest of these individuals in exercising their authority. "

Further, according to investigators, fellow students began to form the monetary base for subsequent scams. Despite the fact that the directors of the Defense Ministry were negotiating directly, the documents were drawn up so that the agent for the transactions was Expert, to whom the subsidiaries of Oboronservis regularly transferred interest from each amount received from the sale of buildings. Operatives of the Interior Ministry of the Russian Federation believe that part of the property was sold at a lower price, for which Smetanova separately received "kickbacks" from buyers.

When in December 2011 a large amount of money accumulated on the accounts of Smetanova’s structures, under the loan agreement, it transferred these funds to VitaProject LLC, the founders of which were Expert and Alexey Naumkin. The latter was also the general director of VitaProject and the head of the legal department of Expert.

It was VitaProject for the money paid by the Ministry of Defense as an agency fee. From December 2011 to January 2012 bought a part of the most “tasty” objects of the military department. In particular, the stake of OAO "31 GPISS", which owns a number of buildings in Moscow.

According to the investigation, Capital Consulting LLC valued the assets of the Ministry of Defense at a lower price, the misguided Defense Minister signed the necessary directives, VitaProject LLC bought military objects on the cheap, and even from these transactions continued to receive agent interest.

House by the sea with a view of the Federal Tax Service

The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation especially carefully studied the features of the sale of a country house in the village of Peresyp of the Temryuk district of the Krasnodar Territory, which the locals called the “summer house (or villa) of Serdyukov”.

As follows from the case, this object was previously owned by the subsidiary structure of the Federal Tax Service FSUE "SPb Inzhtechcentre". Recall, before becoming Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov headed the Federal Tax Service. However, in April 2010, the government, at the request of the military department, transferred “St. Petersburg Engineering Technology Center” from the Federal Tax Service to the Ministry of Defense, where the federal state unitary enterprise received a new name - “St. Petersburg Engineering and Technology Center of the Ministry of Defense”. And then "officials of the DIO, exceeding the powers granted to them, ... prepared projects and ensured the implementation by the Minister of Defense" of a number of legal acts.

28 May 2010 of the year Serdyukov transferred the country house in Peresyp from the balance of FSUE "St. Petersburg Engineering and Technical Center of the Ministry of Defense" to the balance of FSU "Zagorodnaya KECh rayon". October 13 2010, Serdyukov ordered to secure a country house already for the state unitary enterprise "District material warehouse" ("OMC"). 28 December 2010, the Minister of Defense signed an order on the privatization of the state unitary enterprise “OMS”, in the list of assets of which, which is also subject to privatization, Vasilyeva included a property in the Temryuk district. And in the same December, the Ministry of Defense began the construction of a suburban complex at Peresyp, on which a total of Defense Ministry spent 328 million rubles of budget money.

18 March 2011, the state unitary enterprise "OMC" was registered as a company. That is, the privatization took place. 13 April, Maxim Zakutaylo, Ekaterina Smetanova's husband and classmate Vasilyeva, was appointed CEO of OMS. According to investigators, in May 2011 of the year asked Zakutailo LLC Capital Consulting to evaluate the country house by the sea as of December 28 of 2010 of the year - for the period when Peresyp had not started building a luxury mansion. It is noteworthy that by this time all the old buildings in Peresyp were demolished, and in their place a new modern complex began to appear.

Despite this, Capital Consulting concluded that the value of the object was 92,1 million rubles. 19 August 2011, "DIO officials, exceeding their authority, organized the preparation and publication of the directive of the Minister of Defense," according to which the OMS board of directors was ordered to approve the implementation of a country house in Peresyp as a "non-core asset". In the same directive of the minister, the sale price is also indicated - 92,1 million rubles. For this amount, in September 2011 of the year, "Serdyukov's Dacha" was bought by CityEngineering LLC. Who is the real owner of this company, in the case file is not specified. It noted only that "the buyer of this property - LLC CityEngineering" - was known to the seller long before the transaction. " And even with this transaction, by decision of Zakutaylo, the agency interest in the amount of 5 million rubles was transferred to the firm of his spouse "Expert".

It is worth noting that the text of criminal cases draws attention to the fact that they were initiated according to the materials of the Department of Military Counterintelligence of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation and the Main Military Prosecutor’s Office.

Comments

[mar.tira]

In Russia, criminals are accustomed to covering up their patrons, because we live in a state where everything is arranged according to the concepts of a gangway. They think that they will be smeared! Already the Bear has begun to say that "Mebelshchik" has nothing to do with it! Unfortunately, I conclude: the state power continues to rot !

[Blackscorp]

Here s..ki, they began to sculpt from Serdyuk a sort of "Ivanushka the fool", "it's not their fault" .....

"officials of the Department of Property Relations (DIO, which was headed by Evgenia Vasilyeva -" Rosbalt ") of the Ministry of Defense, exceeding their powers, organized the preparation and publication of the directive of the Minister of Defense ...".

How is that? By their logic, Serdyuk is unmanageable or what? Didn't know what to sign ??

[smel]

Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president.
They said that there are no complaints and now is not the 37 year

[NIKOLAI T]

Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president.
Are you sure that another president would have started this business?
And who do you think he is?

[AK-47]

Quote: NIKOLAI T

Are you sure that another president would have started this business?

Are you sure that this president has begun?
And where did he get mansions from all over Russia, and his savings were not frail, kickbacks usually reached the very top.
A com can even come to him.
GDP is probably not happy that it happened.

[tan0472]

Quote: AK-47

And where did he get mansions from all over Russia, and his savings were not frail, kickbacks usually reached the very top.

And in more detail - what kind of mansions? Share information. And do not forget about savings "not sickly".
Just the facts, please.

[Nose]

Quote: NIKOLAI T

Are you sure that another president would have started this business?

If Medvedev had stayed for a second term, the country would not even have heard of theft in the Ministry of Defense! And the little women, led by their blind boss, would steer b and on!

[Ymidge]

Quote: Nose

If Medvedev stayed for a second term,

If Medvedev had stayed for a second term, we were now America’s best friends! Quiet and smooth and full reboot! Syria - yes, take it! .. Magnitsky list - yes, for God's sake, at least ten! .. Putin’s resignation? .. Yes, even to hard labor! ..
The main thing is that the iPhone stood rooted to the spot.

[Beck]

Quote: NIKOLAI T

The theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president. Are you sure that another president would have started this business at all? And who do you think he is?

These are the statements introduced by the propaganda of the ruling regime that I don’t understand at all. Well, no, in all holy of Russia another brainy, okromya Putin. Here in the whole of Russia he is the only one noted by God.

And, what, would it not be and all of Russia would sink into the abyss? And in general, how can a state exist where 150 million is only brainy, and the rest are peasant, ignorant and fools.

No disgrace RUSSIA Nikolay T.

[Rezun]

And you ... it's ...- a troll ...

[Egen]

This is for 1,5 years so many frauds turned. And for all the time?

[omsbon]

Quote: smel

They said that there are no complaints and now is not the 37 year

Suvorov once said that any quartermaster can be shot without trial after five years of service.
So now you can hang up effective managers and directors of DIO even earlier, somewhere in a couple of years!

[Denis]

Quote: BlackScorp

How is that? By their logic, Serdyuk is unmanageable or what? Didn't know what to sign ??

All clearly show- Serdyukov will not give!

[Volzhanin]

If they take a stool and ask, he can begin to answer these questions.

[slav4ikus]

before the new year in 2011, such a directive of the Moscow Region appeared on the suspension of payments to military personnel who were out of state for half a year, as a result, a howl rose to heaven from the suggestion of journalists, and Tolik immediately made a mournful f ... but they say it wasn’t me who signed me ... hoo bitches nits hate

[Ross]

Blackscorp,
I didn’t know what I was signing .... But doesn’t the law on responsibility of an official already exist ???? Such gross attempts to whiten and smear only increase irritation and residual trust in the authorities.

[bask]

Ross And whoever doubted that they would NOT put Serdyuk ?????? Serdyuk, one of the many fleas attached to the state. means .. Cases with MO, This is the TOP of the CORRUPTION ICEBER !!!! And to power I feel not only distrust and irritation. And a feeling of loathing and disgust for these BODIES .. How much more do they need $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ To fill their rotten shells ?? ?????

[Volzhanin]

bask IS THE TOP OF THE CORRUPTION ICEBER !!! Taburetkin is just a lightning rod. The top of the corruption iceberg will be higher.

[aksakal]

Quote: BlackScorp

How is that? By their logic, Serdyuk is unmanageable or what? Didn't know what to sign ??

- cunningly bastard stole. Surely there’s a service from those fools with a beautiful justification of how it is profitable to sell this or that property of defense service with the signatures of appraisers. And grandmothers probably didn’t receive a serduk himself, but through affiliated persons who may not even be in a family relationship with a serduk and go into unconsciousness - like a grandma, he received it exclusively in his favor, and not for the serdyuk. And whoever doesn’t go into unconsciousness will get a myocardial infarction. And it must be proved so that later the international court in Hamburg (or where is it ?. Russia, after all, signed the relevant documents) didn’t decide to immediately release the heart, moreover, it can also decide reinstate him! That will be a laugh!
For example - Gdlyan and Ivanov did not take bribes, they were great masters. The Tengiz machinations were revealed, for which Kunaev was removed. But they failed to plant the key "Tengiz" player - unexpectedly and on time the events of 1986 followed in Alma-Ata, and Gdlyan and Ivanov almost ended up behind bars. And that was in the USSR! I strongly doubt that the hydra of corruption has grown weaker since then. I think the opposite is true. And the year 37 is unlikely to help - it will turn into an instrument for the struggle of the same corrupt officials among themselves. We will rejoice - here is shot. Here's another shot! Hooray. And then scratching your head - we shoot, we shoot, and something more and more corruption!
Here other measures are needed. I don’t know which ones.

[Orik]

The fight against corruption is only a tool. There is no need to despair, "Year 37" is effective in conjunction with the "Russian conscription to the party." The main sign of change is the change of elites, and the forerunner is the creation of guardsmen, priobrazhenets and Semenovites, Russian recruitment to the party. While this is not even theoretically, it means all lies and PR.
There are three options for real recovery. "The first is a legal evolutionary re-election campaign, a change of ideologues and government officials. But it is clear what elections in our country are, so this option is not available. The second theoretically possible option is a summit coup, whether military or civil. According to experts, it is unlikely. , but our country can by no means wish it. And, finally, the third option is a revolutionary change. Experts assess it as more and more likely.
Is there a recovery on the part of the leaders of Russia? The probability that this is so is a few percent, not more. Most likely, we are still facing an episode that develops into a PR campaign that will not last long. It will be useful, it will strengthen a wobbly, unusable nonviable system, and this is better than collapse, because collapse will bury a lot in the literal sense of the word. And then everything will return to square one: after all, if the system works, then it returns any fluctuations to its original state. "Http://sulakshin.ru/korruptsiya-odna-iz-treh-golov-drakona/

[aksakal]

Quote: Orik

http://sulakshin.ru/korruptsiya-odna-iz-treh-golov-drakona/

- unfortunately, I can’t follow your link yet (I’ll be sure to familiarize myself with it), but I can guess from the last sentence that you touched my favorite topic, my hobby, so to speak.
If there the author offends the theory of the evolution of complex systems, then he may be wrong. The system returns any fluctuations to the starting point just at the moments when it is stable. Is not stability the main goal of any evolving system?
But in the so-called. the point of bifurcation - in terms of social systems, this is a pre-revolutionary situation - just has the growth of any fluctuations to macroscopic scales. In other words, any idea, even the most delusional one, can develop - the main thing is that the element that "gave the fluctuation" would be louder and stronger than the others. This element, for example, can shout that the Aryan race is above all, and the rest of the races are worthy of either complete destruction or falling into slavery to the Aryan race. Delirium, but at the point of bifurcation, this delusional fluctuation has grown to the size of the entire system. If anything, I dreamed about it and there was no such thing in history -)))))). So in the end with your output:

Quote: Orik

It will be useful, strengthen the shaky, worthless, non-viable system, and this is better than the collapse, because the collapse will bury a lot of things in the literal sense of the word.

- reluctantly, but forced to agree. And then, if you bring the matter to the point boiling bifurcations is it possible what kind of fluctuation jumps out there?
Will pop up "the urine of the average, all the same firewood!", What shall we do ?. Something's scary -)))))

[Orik]

Really does not open, and the site itself works http://sulakshin.ru/ article "Corruption is one of the three heads of a dragon". But this is only Sulakshin's blog, and much more is here http://rusrand.ru/

[Orik]

The last two paragraphs are not mine, but a quote from Sulakshin, with whose idea I agree. Your statements do not contradict this either, until we have reached the boiling point, but we are persistently (!) Moving towards it. Indeed, at the boiling point, the system disintegrates and you never know what pops up, but all other options gradually disappear. "Our" kakistocracy is hardly capable of creation, no one wants to change it. You can shoot it now only for the sake of satisfaction (this is the answer to the question you asked earlier) because it will not give any positive result. We need a national idea, a change in the system, new people, and then there is a sense of "37 years", and so all the swarming in the swamp, one hand pulled out, the other and his legs got stuck.

[aksakal]

Quote: Orik

You can shoot it now only for the sake of satisfaction (this is the answer to the question you asked earlier) because it will not give any positive result. We need a national idea, a change in the system, new people, and then there is a sense of "37 years", and so all the swarming in the swamp, one hand pulled out, the other and his legs got stuck.

- Orik, I agree.
Here is an indisputable, but also in its own opinion. I usually try to get acquainted with all points of view, here I do not agree with the author, but there are some healthy grains. After all, the wise say - in any conflict there is no completely guilty and completely right, both are usually to blame, one is only a little less -))))) http://vpk.name/news/80464_porazhenie_rossiiskoi_armii.html. Serdyukov will continue to stir up the minds for a long time, a very resonant and ambiguous figure, and perhaps even a thief. But this is my IMHO.

[Orik]

Yes, not an indisputable article, but much is true (the need to live within the means of the army, the role of Serdyukov, the launch of the economy), but everything must be considered as a whole. The bias in the article on the relationship between the Defense Ministry and the military-industrial complex, it also raises the question, if Serdukov is "overseer", then did he really make decisions on the import of equipment ?! The conflict is on the face, and the degree of its influence on the process is not obvious.

However, we are moving away from the topic of the country's life and vitality, here, in my opinion, all obviously clans are only interested in loot and power.

[aksakal]

Quote: Orik

However, we are moving away from the topic of the country's life and vitality, here, in my opinion, all obviously clans are only interested in loot and power.

- quite right. Moreover, it is NORMAL. You point to fuel, figuratively speaking, without which there is no progress or evolution, making this fuel the culprit of all troubles. In fact, the rules of the game are important, under which this very struggle for power and money is carried out. It is possible to establish such rules of the game under which the best qualities of this or that nation are realized, or vice versa. The rules of the game are established only by the people, not by the ruler. The ruler is only compelled to play by the rules prevailing among the people. It is from here that the saying - "every nation deserves the ruler it deserves." If we in Kazakhstan are already agreeing to rename Astana to Nazarbayev, then with our excessive reverence for the authorities we absolutely deserve such a ruler.

[Orik]

No, not normal. Do you want to reduce a person to the level of an animal? So Western liberalism and Putin, as a Westerner, do it perfectly, then it’s good, but Russia is degrading. Question from what? A person begins to behave like a person only when he is able to overcome the psychophysical level. The primary meaning is not spatial and not material, not corporeal, but existential meaning. A man becomes a man when he, as a spiritual being, transcends the limits of his physical and mental being.

Psychology views the desire for power and money as the absence of high meanings. The pursuit of pleasure will never be satisfied because pleasure is only a by-product of human activity. Even our distant ancestors understood this, having worked out their causal relationship, seeing the meaning in "keeping the world from evil" - "the moral fall of people, puts the world on the brink of destruction" - "the main function of the state, the salvation of the people from the final fall from sin" - "symphony of powers "-" spiritual self-sufficiency from the Western world "-" the foundation of the state on Christian love for God, Church, power (authoritarian-conciliar), people, country, family, man. " The main task of the authorities is to help a person save his soul, teach him to be better (!), And not to live better.
To this end, a citizen should be granted freedoms “from sin”, but not “for sin”. A person’s desire for freedom “for sin” must suppress the full power of state and church authority, which, in order to achieve this goal, is forced to have a “formidable” character. Whereas freedom “from sin” must be based on love for God and the Church created by Him for this purpose. Love for power, because it was put by God to help all people of goodwill and to protect them. Love for your people and their land, as they were given to us from Above as a kind of inheritance, which God did not give sanction to change. Love for the family and the people around us.
This value orientation, along with veche traditions, helped to suppress the spirit of individualism, self-love in people, encouraging the principle of community, collective collectivism, built on the principle of "one for all, all for one."

[Rezun]

Well, what are you ... inadequate ....
"Dad" will merge - "daughters" will float ... Return the grandmother, and we will disperse ...

[Bykov.]

Quote: mar.tira

In Russia, criminals are used to covering their patrons.

“Rosbalt” is also the “source” of information, or rather, the “drain barrels” of the Liberal Elite. Had Taburetkin had a "furry hand", he would have continued to sit in the Moscow Region.
(... At the disposal of Rosbalt were the materials of the investigation into the theft of the property of the Ministry of Defense. It follows from them that to the former head ...). As it turned out, I suppose the entire editorial staff sat down and composed. And Serdyukov, without options, will get his own, too much "resonance", it will not be possible to shut up without losses.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Bulls.

And Serdyukov, without options, will get his own, too much "resonance", it will not be possible to shut up without losses.

Are you sure about this? Judging by what the two first persons of the state say, if he gets it, then by the pope a thread, through a feather pillow.

[Bykov.]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Judging by what the two first persons of the state say

Then they will lose face, not to understand this, they cannot. And for the sake of what, did they raise a wave?

[Egen]

will not lose, that's right, everything is calculated in advance, if there was a risk, then the "wave" would not be raised :(

[Bykov.]

Quote: Egen

will not lose, that's right, everything is calculated in advance, if there was a risk, then the "wave" would not be raised :(

Yes, how not to lose? In the next election, not only competitors will remember all this.

[Nose]

Quote: Bulls.

Yes, how not to lose?

I can’t understand what is valuable in this Serdyukov? Ordinary pitcher snout! We have dozens of such good things at any pub! And for his sake put on the line everything acquired by such labor.

[Ross]

Nose,

Here most likely "family" affairs. Father-in-law, Zubkov, who is closest to Putin's entourage, was very angry over the shame of his daughter, now the ex-wife of Serdyukov. Well, someone probably knows what female jealousy is. At any cost, a woman who is abused is trying to trample her rival. Here, for sure, Serdyuk was offered, either you give a mistress, or you sit down. They probably noticed how Serdyukov, in slippers and a dressing gown, rushed at the investigators with a tiger during a search and then "knocked out" house arrest for his mistress. And then suddenly "wilted" and now there was a version of an unconscious, like a woman was framed? It is clearly seen that he handed over to Vasilyev, his skin is more expensive.

[military]

Quote: Nose

Ordinary pitcher snout! We have dozens of such good things at any pub!

"... And then he remembered where he saw those clear, clean eyes ... in the Odessa DOPR, where he himself was sitting on a business case ..."

[Egen]

in what elections? :)))): ((((

[AleksUkr]

Mr. Churov will do everything for you. So do not fuss. It is said quite clearly - only the court can blame. But the matter, of course, will not reach the court. Like all other cases.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Bulls.

Then they will lose face, not understand this, they cannot

And now speaking of his innocence, why are they doing this?

[Bykov.]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And now speaking of his innocence, why are they doing this?

They will move him away from power, and therefore from money, away from him, and he himself will be "blown away". That they still can, just sit in a chair, yes "tyrit" from the budget.

[Rezun]

Yes they don’t say ---- hint ...

[predator.3]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Are you sure about this? Judging by what the two first persons of the state say, if he gets it, then by the pope a thread, through a feather pillow.

That's when you begin to understand Joseph Vissarionovich and his struggle with the enemies of the people!

[Egen]

yes it is clear why it is bad to think about our tax and other inspection bodies, like they were idiots did not understand anything :( It may well be that the minister is a pawn :( Only if the girls are all "diamond pawns", then what is he?: ))

[predator.3]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Are you sure about this? Judging by what the two first persons of the state say, if he gets it, then by the pope a thread, through a feather pillow.
That's when you begin to understand Joseph Vissarionovich and his struggle with the enemies of the people!







From

[sanyabasik]

Quote: mar.tira

State power continues to rot!

Well now amputation only.. and realizes it more and more ...

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Hello, hello
Judging by the fact that the two first persons of the state moo and what the media say, Serdyukov will not get anything at all. Blind image of an innocently injured and knowing poor bunny, that's all. The bunny was stupid, signed without looking (Ahhh, the whores talked, sucked, their heads were hammered, I have nothing to do with it, sorry ...), such a gullible ...

Bunny ran on time where necessary. In slippers on a bare foot. And apparently, they will forgive the hare. Well, all the women have deceived. Women's brigade of destruction of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. In kind, each Congress medal must be issued. And who accepted these women by kagal is a separate issue, beyond the competence of this business.

Once again they are trying to make us idiots. Like far from the election, forget. DO NOT FORGET.

And more.

Quote: NIKOLAI T

Are you sure that another president would have started this business?

The other is Medvedev? I'm 100% sure I wouldn't start. If only because he is clearly one of those who are "in the subject."

[Kaa]

Quote: Banshee

Blind image of an innocent victim and who knew nothing poor bunnies,

And he will "sculpt a hunchback" - "I am innocent! They themselves came to me ..."

[WW3]

Quote: Kaa

And he will "sculpt a hunchback" - "I am innocent! They themselves came to me ..."

That's how this character +

[Normal]

Quote: Banshee

DO NOT FORGET.

Hello Roman. Forget, still forget.
To be indignant at Serdyukov's topic is a sign of good form. But try to criticize its roof. Here the "old song about the main thing" will immediately begin; there is no alternative ..., no one except ... So, FORGET. And Kaa, Aksakal, esaul and his comrades will help us. And this was not forgotten for the sake of stability, calmness and a full belly

[Volzhanin]

Normal -Gold words not in the eyebrow, but in the eye.

[Rustam]

"deceived" him and "misled" him.
____
there are simply no words -And he (Serdyukov) probably had no eyes and no ears, such a gullible one, although they would have come up with a better excuse
like Chernomyrdin (deceased) They wanted the best, it turned out as always


therefore, this window dressing only annoys people - for 10 years no one has seen anything and then it’s just like a cornucopia, it’s scary to turn on the TV the series went, catch the official’s corruption official (for how long)
like people threw a bone, look, we are fighting) -Only dear rulers, our people are not so stupid as you think and he draws conclusions
the last is just our house arrest in 13 rooms, in the USA they talk differently despite their ranks and ranks (the only thing the USA likes is that everyone is equal before the law)

[strannik595]

we can stop urinating on the corpse of Serdyukov, and the men? ........ give a place to the investigators

[Nose]

Quote: strannik595

we can stop urinating on the corpse of Serdyukov, and the men? ........ give a place to the investigators

Investigators will not urinate on him. He is in their authority.

[Jaromir]

Quote: Nose

Investigators will not urinate on him. He is in their authority.

To whom they point out, they will pour it on him! They do not care.

[YARY]

It’s a pity that not the 37th

[WW3]

Quote: Ardent

It’s a pity that not the 37th

In those years, to the wall and shoot ...
Here is the way interesting material almost to this topic...

In some countries of the world, looting is imposed. In others, a very long time. Under our law, the term “looting” is not applicable. He is from war crimes. And to what happens in the emergency zone, the term "theft" is applicable.

Article 266 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR, as amended in 1961, provided for punishment for the abduction, but only on the battlefield, of things that were wounded or killed. And covered the term "looting" only actions committed in wartime. Probably, due to the fact that there was no judicial practice on this type of crime, this article was excluded altogether from the new Criminal Code of 1997. So there are no marauders in Russia, from the point of view of the law.

Article 63 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation considers aggravating circumstances: the commission of crimes in a state of emergency, spontaneous or other public action, as well as in mass riots. But this is only aggravating circumstances. There is simply no article itself.

For example, during a plane crash, investigators cannot qualify the actions of amateurs of profit working here as theft or robbery. Because the main link of the investigation is missing - the victims. After all, they died. Violation of moral and ethical standards is not a matter of course, because Russian law does not even mention it.

[Rink]

.... the Investigative Committee (IC) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints against the former head of the military department Anatoly Serdyukov, since his subordinates, including Yevgeny Vasiliev, "deceived" him and "misled" him. ...

Does it mean that he turned out to be incompetent, "official inconsistency" in full growth?

And to ask, where does the "not involved" in the theft of white and fluffy Storetkin real estate in elite districts come from? Or did he provide such a standard of living with the salary of a civil servant? Krasava ....

Grandfather Stalin was simple: you can not cope with the job - what the hell do you take a place? incompetent people at the post of the Ministry of Defense with their stupidity cause more harm to the country than all the enemies combined. Do not match - quit! The report is on the table, and is free.
Since he did not leave himself, but "led", contemptuously calling the regular military - people who, on duty, give their lives in defense of the interests of the country - "little green men", then such a fucking figure should be placed against the wall.
I can imagine how much the desire to serve arises among the officers, with whom their own (not the enemy!) Minister of Defense treats in this way .... Is this not a harm to the country ?! And given that he piled up with combat training, purchases of weapons, military education and army property, this is no longer "incompetence", here the system is viewed. Systematic and consistent action to reduce the country's defense. The tower is simply written on his forehead, a scumbag ... Theft is not the main damage from his activities. Where is counterintelligence looking? I think she has something to do here ....


Subordinates, damn him, deceived ..... But what, he does not bear responsibility for the actions of his subordinates ?!

That’s why Taburetkin will show up, hu from Putin ....
I will follow closely how the "furniture maker business" ends.

[baron.nn]

mar.tira:
The first persons of our state have said more than once or twice that they continue the continuity of power ... We all remember what happened in the 90s ... Now we have embellished it a bit, but the essence has not changed ...

[starshina78]

Even before the last elections, when I was "pecked" here for the fact that I contradicted those who extolled Putin, I said that this government is rotten, mired in corruption and kinship - friendly ties, and that it is not worth choosing it. So no! They called me an enemy here, and someone even advised me to "put on a stake." And it turns out that I was right and everyone is now shouting in unison that the government is rotten. A hypocrite, friends! On the subject, it was immediately clear that Serdyukov would not be sent to the slaughter. He is the son-in-law of the best friend, and the familiarity in our power has blossomed in full measure. And do not expect that at least one more or less significant figure will appear in all corruption cases. Putin once said: "We are not giving up our own!"

[Sasha 19871987]

well, holy prostate ... I wonder if he also has a golden toilet?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: sasha 19871987

I wonder if he also has a golden toilet?

piss them in faience is not comfortable.

[Tersky]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

piss them in faience is not comfortable.

yeah .... murmur is not musically ...

[alexng]

I don’t know what the toilet is, but the brains are rotten. It will be merged in any way. No one will risk because of him. It looks like they are just setting the stage (proven evidence) for this.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: alexneg

It looks like they are just setting the stage (proven evidence) for this.

I think it will end with Serdyukov's "suicide" with subsequent speeches of "sincere" condolences

[Gorchakov]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I think it will end with Serdyukov's "suicide"

But this alignment of events cannot be ruled out ...

[Nose]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I think it will end with Serdyukov's "suicide" with subsequent speeches of "sincere" condolences

And you can quietly: a heart attack and a long coma, about five years, until they forget.

[Ruslan67]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I think it will end with Serdyukov's "suicide" with subsequent speeches of "sincere" condolences

And in the end they’ll write a runny nose of the 45th caliber

[Vanek]

And why is he not in prison yet?

[tronin.maxim]

Quote: Vanek

And why is he not in prison yet?

So someone needs this, so as not to fly in!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Vanek

And why is he not in prison yet?

Hi Ivan, because it’s one, that the second of our tendeme says that there are no claims to him. And the fact that Serdyukov’s signature on the sale of an oil depot is garbage, he was hypnotized and forced to sign this document.

[Pit]

Quote: Vanek

And why is he not in prison yet?

Yes, damn it, why did you pester him. Well, he married his husband successfully. Lucky dude.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

The second of the tandem ... Is there a tandem, that's the question? Something seems to me that no longer exists. The LADY served his time, cleared the chair, for this he received the promise. But what will happen next "at the court of the eternal emperor" - we'll see.

All this looks strange: the first started the whole kitchen and is actually silent on this topic. The second fiercely defends Serdyukov, because he himself has ears in this heap. We’ll see, everything is clearly not clean here.

[baltika-18]

Quote: Banshee

Is there a tandem, that's the question? Something seems to me that no longer exists. The LADY served his time, cleared the chair, for this he received the promise. But what will happen next "at the court of the eternal emperor" - we'll see.

Roman, yes there are no tandems and groups. It's simple, Medvedev wrote more than once a hat (ass), which is left in place as a sign that the place has been taken. Putin is the main in all these processes, they are all executors. My personal opinion: Putin is torn trying to take a higher place in it. It’s not a secret to anyone who is behind our homegrown oligarchy, a billionaire in the modern world, it’s impossible to become without the control of the global financial elite. In Russia, they created a system in which certain rules work, no one can go beyond them. Putin is in it in this system, he created it, he obeys the rules. The main task for him now is to keep the system in balance, that there was neither forward movement nor destabilization of the situation. This is where all these movements and throwings come from. Theatrical performance, someone having fun, someone watching with interest, and people sometimes pay with their lives without suspecting that they have become participants in the performance.

[Nose]

Quote: baltika-18

Putin is tearing into the world elite

Why the hell is the world elite? .. Here he is the king! And who is there? .. Exactly - no one.

[military]

Quote: Banshee

All this looks strange: the first started the whole kitchen and is actually silent on this topic. The second fiercely defends Serdyukov, because he himself has ears in this heap. We’ll see, everything is clearly not clean here.

it should be remembered that in those dashing years, the stool, as a power manager, was directly subordinate to the current second (who then heated the first's chair) ... and today a barrel of shit simply cannot roll past the second, who is really threatened with a "red card" ... in turn, it seems that the first one who gave the go-ahead at the start of this barrel, once again, against the general background, expects to remain in the "offsite" ... so, it seems, more understandable ...

[AleksUkr]

They probably put a facsimile when he was busy with his harem.

[taseka]

Not! Dad obviously has nothing to do with it - daughters, only they are crafty - to blame! Dad is a successful manager, he has no time for upbringing, numerous girls, he did not see and did not hear - he is all in a successful appearance (the truth is that 7 billions were stolen) but these minxes are simply innocent! That's all - sailed !!!

[ism_ek]

Serdyukov comes to the subordinate on his birthday, and there Jennifer Lopez dances .... Serdyukov thought an accident ...
Serdyukov comes to the subordinate lover's home, and there is a 12-room apartment in the center of Moscow, with paintings by famous artists ....

Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president. Therefore, they will leave him alone.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: ism_ek

Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president.

Well, suppose we shoot Putin, who do you propose to put? Prokhorov or Zyuganov? That one, that the second clowns and do not have the support of the country's population.

[islandpan]

Well, suppose we shoot Putin, who do you propose to put?

this is the whole question! before the election, candidates were picked up so that a normal one! and the rest of the clowns

[Sergg]

Golden words!

[predator.3]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Prokhorov or Zyuganov?

Probably better than Zyuganov than this "tandem", it will not be worse!
In 1998 when E.M. became Prime Minister Primakov, hoping that he would restore order; no, as soon as he put things in order in the economy, the EBN sent him to resign! but his government was much stronger and more professional than today.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: predator.3

it will not be worse !

Yes you are an optimist

[Tersky]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes you are an optimist

Sasha welcome! You're right ... oh, right. The Russian land does not become scarce on good souls

[Nuar]

Quote: predator.3

as soon as he put things in order in the economy, EBN dismissed him!

it is inappropriate to oversimplify. Primakov tried to sort out financial fraud. It just so happened that with the brow, whom Skuratov tried to crush, Tanyusha Dyachenko got stuck on a large scale, and the "tannin-dad" himself was close to her

Remind somebody How the name of the boy Vova who conducted the "Prosecutor Skuratov Case"?

[Tersky]

Quote: predator.3

but his government was much stronger and more professional than today.

Ilham - Do you see him, the government? Is it in Russia? Judging by the deeds of ex MO, he is not ..... The Government of the Russian Federation for the coming day, in my opinion, in the person of two unique ..... who exactly I think is not worth specifying ..

[predator.3]

A common question from Putin ... If not Putin, then who? “Leaders' vacuum” is created by the authorities on purpose. Potential leaders are hushed up, deleted from the lists (look who was supposed to participate in the elections and who was denied), defamed ... Instead of them, they offer the same clown dolls who have long merged with the authorities - Zyu, Zhirik, Miroshu paratrooper and, on a new one, Yo-Please, while forbidding to vote against everyone. I don’t want these candidates, but don’t care, vote! Discredit the protest movement by "leaders" such as the Germans, Sobchak, Bulk, Ryzhkov, while nodding at the State Department!

[valokordin]

Zyuganov or how you choose, but about clowns and thieves, the difference is big. A clown could lead the province, and an actor in the United States.

[Thunderbolt]

Stockholm syndrome, some ... Power does not please, but a party, movement, a charismatic Leader, for which there would be not only a word, but I don’t know the Case either :(

[baltika-18]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

suppose we shoot Putin, who do you propose to put? Prokhorov or Zyuganov? That one, that the second clowns and do not have the support of the country's population.

We have four elections in a row, the three in places are unchanged: Putin (Medvedev), Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky and further little things in life. Spectacle. If someone is not from this "glorious" cohort, he is doomed. Even to participate, they will not be allowed.

[smel]

Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president.
For now, I want Mr. Medvedev to share not only Serdyukov’s responsibility, but his fate as well.

[Sergg]

That is, remained pink and fluffy like Serdyukov?

[Pit]

Quote: smel

For now, I want Mr. Medvedev to share not only Serdyukov’s responsibility, but his fate as well.

So he did. He doesn’t live poorly, pisses, is healthy and does not soar about tomorrow.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: smel

For now, I want Mr. Medvedev to share not only Serdyukov’s responsibility, but his fate as well.

Pavel, yes Serdyuk is not complaining about fate yet. He has stolen, and not a lot. Lucky guy this Serdyukov!

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: smel

Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president.
For now, I want Mr. Medvedev to share not only Serdyukov’s responsibility, but his fate as well.

Here !!! What are you on the president then?
He seems to have not yet been hired by lawyers.
And then, before the election, oh how far ...

Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for a kick to Serdyukov and his patron (s).

[Black]

He wrote in a golden toilet bowl and slept with Vasilyeva?

[merkel1961]

So Serdyukov's own sister lived in that house, and Tolik himself was under the side. The transfer of arrows to subordinates in property crimes, such as blonde suckers shod, this is one thing. But something is not heard, except for praise, the assessment of the state of the Armed Forces from the authorities, the military with extensive experience, analysts are "shouting" - under Serdyukov-Makarov, there was a direct destruction of defense capabilities in the interests of the United States and NATO, and everything comes down to a battalion's fraud in skirts!

[military]

Quote: ism_ek

Theft of Serdyukov is an occasion for impeachment of the president. Therefore, they will leave him alone.

besides everything, this is also a good reason for the dismissal of the Cabinet ... as an option to correct the rating of the owner ... like, "nothing personal, dima, you know ..."

[iulai]

all, gentlemen, comrades, they remove the stools from under the blow. he is poor, coming to spend the night at Vasilyeva, he has not seen all this luxury. Yes, together they were under the covers and designed all the colossus. just buyers again see surrounded by Putin and Medvedev. (and Vasilieva is good, JUICY!)

[svit55]

Or maybe the girls, as is customary for swans, watered his poor clafelin? and he was unconscious and signed.

[AlexTarov]

She otmazyvaet her hillock. And the media are trying to sniff us that Vasilyeva is so crazy that she even dared to dissolve the simpleton minister. Passions subsided, with the "steam locomotives" on the case, they agreed with the IC, and began to "launder" Taburetkin. Rude and cynical.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: AlexTarov

And the media are trying to get us involved that Vasiliev is so crazy that even a simpleton-minister dared to breed

Not only threw up, but lured to bed, where she raped Serdyukov and forced to constantly come to her and satisfy the animal instincts of Vasilyeva. Only those who arrived with a search of the opera managed to wrest the victim Serdyukov from the clutches of Vasilyeva.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

He killed ... rzhunimaga.

[the polar]

Alexander Romanov,
That is not, then at the trial they will announce personal testimonyпYerdyukov, that he was a fag in life, so he didn’t go to Vasilyeva for whispers, but to make her repent of her crimes and confess. Because he had long suspected, and recently noticed that she lives in her thirteen-room apartment clearly beyond her means, and on her walls are paintings that he has already seen somewhere, but doesn’t remember exactly. But when citizen Vasilyeva, in response to his exhortations, once again intolerantly called him fag, he, i.e. column FROMпYerdyukov was offended in earnest and called the SK himself to personally help the valiant special forces to detain this hardened and slutty criminal Vasilyeva. For which he asks the court for leniency, and the government of the order for the birthday of his dear spouse to make her pleasant, for various minor troubles, in life.

[Krilion]

Quote: AlexTarov

She loses her mound.

she can otmazyvat him as much as she wants .. however, the answers to all questions to Serdyukov lie on the surface - just no one wants to notice them ... in fact, everything is painfully simple: 1. since Serdyukov signed papers for sale, then the questions of property valuation are included in its competence and responsibilities. 2. time he turned out to be "incompetent", tk. he was "misled", he was forced to go to jail, if not for complicity in theft, then for the displayed criminal negligence, causing significant damage to the state.

in this regard, the statements of the ICR and medveputov that Serdyukov has no questions and he can continue to work - the essence or the statements of his accomplices or another example of complete official incompetence ...

[the polar]

There will be many more aspects of this dirty business ahead.
Without fail, questions should arise regarding military counterintelligence and the Main Military Prosecutor's Office, on whose materials the IC is currently working.
On duty, the head of the military counterintelligence was obliged to report to the minister the first time he received compromising evidence about thefts, and not to conduct long-term surveillance, allowing tens of billions to be squandered.
In this case, the leadership of the military counterintelligence and the Main Military Prosecutor's Office themselves bear criminal responsibility.
Of course, they reported to Serdyukov, this is unequivocal and only realizing the futility of these attempts, they continued the secret collection of materials.

In any case, they should be summoned to court and there to voice the whole background of this case, i.e. who patronized Serdyukov without authorizing the arrest of the entire group of criminals, or who obstructed counterintelligence, specially preparing the situation to the point of a political scandal.

[Tersky]

Quote: Krilion

he is liable to be in prison, if not for complicity in the theft, then for the criminal negligence shown, causing substantial damage to the state.

He should not sit, but burn out in the crematorium’s furnace after the indicative execution ...

[Misantrop]

No need to make a martyr out of this stupid thief. To plant. And let him sit until he sews mittens for the amount that was stolen with his participation and connivance

[andrey903]

Serdyukov the pimp put the soldiers of his battalion under high officials, they protect him, he knows a lot

[Thunderbolt]

Or maybe they are all from the same regiment?

[Pit Bull59]

JOKE OF HUMOR: Poor, unfortunate Tolyan! And the subordinates were imposed on him, and completely different people placed them in their posts, and orders with orders were forced to sign him! And these people set up honest fellow Taburetkin ... Wow, they are not good! They defamed, tarnished the "honest name" of Tolichki! He was forced to become a MO when he was returning from the mow. The litovka with a rake was taken away and put in the ministerial chair ... But he didn't want to! Because he knew that they would not really let him work, because he was given a command from those people whom he had never seen or heard of. So it turned out so badly ... They set up Anatole!
Now seriously. Nothing will happen to him! Hand washes a hand ...

[amateur.]

In short Serdyukov is represented as a gullible, stupid boy, but where did our higher ones look? And this was such a person in our Russia - DEFENSE MINISTER, Noodles are again hung up to us - I don't believe. It is clearly seen that this gop company came to taste under Medvedev, and flew under Putin.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: amateur.

it was tasted by the state-owned company under Medvedev, and flew under Putin.

For the record! So the question is, based on this: is there now the so-called tandem?
Or is Putin still one thing, and plush is another?
Think about it ...

[military]

Quote: Banshee

For the record! So the question is, based on this: is there now the so-called tandem?

And why, strictly speaking, "now"? ...
As the unforgettable Nikita Sergeevich said in the film "Gray Wolves", answering his son's question: "... After all, I was thinking the same thing when I appointed them all ..." ...
The topic of Putin’s motivation when choosing Medvedev’s candidacy for a throne heating pad has already been driven up and down ... Based on the goals set, the candidate was chosen quite successfully, but the risk is always the risk ...
Given the biography of the GDP, and the traditions of the agency from which he is a native, it would be logical to assume that Mr. Serdyukov could have been deliberately taken to the highest level and put a successor as a landmine ... Putin is unlikely at the time of adoption a personnel decision, did not have an exhaustive lens for Serdyukov ... But Caesar, leaving with the clear intention of returning, could well have needed just none other than a potential terry swindler (and, preferably, from the inner circle), which in a certain nutrient medium would certainly activates ... which happened exactly according to plan ...
The ambitiousness and euphoria from the elixir of power, combined with the psalms of the inner circle, also did their job - Medvedev felt too late what he was sitting on ... Feverish throwings only indicate that there are illusions about Putin’s intentions to undermine the landmine under the prime minister and his cabinet, Medvedev has no ...
Here, in fact, is the end of the tandem tale

[Jaromir]

Quote: military

Here, in fact, is the end of the tandem tale

In general, the usual story: was there a boy? Rather, how much is left for him?

[military]

Quote: Jaromir

In general, the usual story: was there a boy?

it seems the boy is quite ripe ... for a whipping ...

[baltika-18]

Quote: amateur.

It is clearly seen that this gop company came to taste under Medvedev, and flew under Putin.

This only suggests that Putin is not stupid. He put Serdyukov in 2007, a year before the presidential election of 2008. The bulk of the reforms passed into Medvedev’s presidency, Putin took the arrows off himself, created the image of a fighter against corruption, it’s not like deeds, they are to blame, he is raking. I’m thinking one thing. Are they really holding us all for suckers? They think that the people have already become so stupid that they can’t tell black from white?

[the polar]

baltika-18,
But you distinguish and understand. Likewise, the majority of the people all understand what kind of artist plays what role. It's just that there is no organizing political structure in Russia yet, but the situation is maturing and warming up by the very deeds of the criminals of the "vertical of power". As much as they want it.

[Ymidge]

Quote: Polar

Also, most people understand everything, what kind of artist plays what role.

Yes, our people are brainy! Interestingly, on the sweepstakes, they don't bet on "put" or "not put" and what is the coefficient there? ..

[Bykov.]

Serdyukov, you need to be punished for the damage that he inflicted on the army as a saboteur.

[Pit]

And what's the point of punishing him? Just remove everything that you have acquired not by hard labor and attach it to the furniture factory as the senior assistant of the younger student, let him work.
It is necessary to punish those who put him to this position, protected and gave orders. And something tells me that GDP and plush are the same pawns in this matter.

[Bykov.]

Quote: Pit

And something tells me that GDP and plush are the same pawns in this matter.

And who then, this "almighty" chess player, to move such "pawns"?

[Pit]

Quote: Bulls.

And who then, this "almighty" chess player, to move such "pawns"?

See above. Among those who rose in the 90s, did not sit down, survived and now does not shine.
But even they are essentially dancing to the tune of the Saxons.

[islandpan]

poor poor Serdyukov! trusting soul! innocently injured! You must either restore or increase! no up promotion! because he worked so effectively !!!

[lewerlin53rus]

Wow, damn it! deceived the orphan! Also, holy simplicity was found. A bunch of evil aunts were deceived by a simple. they wouldn’t make people laugh. They are for the most part not so simple and understand perfectly well that it is impossible to do such things without him. Another thing is that they have everything properly covered up and all documents are either in a safe place or destroyed.

[Apollo]

Good morning everybody!
After reading the article, especially the first paragraph, one involuntarily inclines to the idea that the investigating authorities got a clear installation for the time being do not touch Serdyukov! -This is unequivocal and there can be no two opinions.

1. quote - that the Investigative Committee (IC) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints about the former head of the military department Anatoly Serdyukov, since his subordinates, including Yevgeny Vasiliev, "deceived" him and "misled" him.
let's say they deceived and misled, BUT Serdyukov has a huge apparatus in the form of financial management.
2. As the former head of the Ministry of Defense Serdyukov bears full responsibility for everything that happened in the department subordinate to him.
3. I strongly doubt that Serdyukov was not aware of what was happening. There would be no blessing, there would be no embezzlement. We are talking about billions of rubles!
A stealing gut is thin to commit theft for such an astronomical amount.
4. It seems to me that if the resonance of the society on embezzlement reaches its peak. Serdyukov will be condemned BUT conditionally.

All these are my assumptions.

[qwertynsan]

Quote: Apollon

.. as the former head of the Ministry of Defense Serdyukov is fully responsible for everything that happened in the subordinate department.

and that's it

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: Apollon

The Investigative Committee (SC) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints,

Translated, it sounds like "is". But I completely and completely agree with you, in terms of the fact that the command from above to excuse is given. BUT: Apparently, the command was given from the prime minister's cabinet, not the presidential one.

Although he wore packages, Serdyuk seems to be in the presidential. To the lover.

Quote: Apollon

as the former head of the Ministry of Defense Serdyukov bears full responsibility for everything that happened in the department subordinate to him.

The whole question is, in what sizes! And who will determine these sizes.

Quote: Apollon

I strongly doubt that Serdyukov was not in the know

He kind of signed documents, nothing? Or does it look like "signed but didn't look that?" Class! "Honey, what have you got there - Oh, darling, so little things ... we sell unnecessary canisters - Oh, come on - ki-ki, I'm waiting in the evening ... murrr." if the Kola knot was sold like this, then there are no questions ...
A fool in power - it’s worse not to come up with.
But he doesn’t look like a fool ...

Quote: Apollon

if the resonance of society on theft reaches its peak. Serdyukov will be condemned by BUT conditionally.

Yes, they wanted to spit on this society.

[Apollo]

Greetings to you Roman! In general, I agree with you, but

Quote: Banshee

Yes, they wanted to spit on this society.

but this number will not work for them.

[merkel1961]

Of course, according to Putin, the inevitability of punishment plays a top priority, but what is a suspended sentence for a criminal, nothing. And the fact that "we are not 37 years old", when the leader of the gang was put up against the wall, already reminds Putin's decree on the non-jurisdiction of Yeltsin and his entire entourage.

[Brother Sarych]

E, whoever doubts, will soon go even wider and lower until they reach the clerks - that’s them and they will be punished in all the strictness of the law ...

[Roman Skomorokhov]

The scribes especially. We are fighting corruption at all levels.

[baltika-18]

Quote: Banshee

We are fighting corruption at all levels.

Putin, in a speech to proxies, said that corruption must be fought everywhere, even on the street. I would have noted his heroic patience in this matter. To endure 12 years and only now give it away.

[Apollo]

Quote: Brother Sarich

E, whoever doubts, will soon go even wider and lower until they reach the clerks - that’s them and they will be punished in all the strictness of the law ...

I greet you! If you follow your logic ................ then we too will face the same fate, i.e. us with you, which I strongly doubt! Well then you need to transplant everyone.

[Sergg]

A thief should sit in jail. Golden words from the movie.
And now we are watching a completely different movie, I doubt that this movie will say "I said Humpbacked!" In our country, other films "Pyatnitsky Division" are forming a new image of the police about which Medvedev so cherished.
Although our law enforcement officers have done well, they have almost reached the very top !!! You understand - almost to the very top, only on the very last floors the passage is closed.

[Pit Bull59]

Quote: Sergg

You understand - almost to the very top, only on the very last floors the passage is closed.

Yes, only the stairs there are slippery ...

[PatriotizTAT]

C'mon ... tired of writing about Papa Carlo what will happen if they remove Putin, you know how much we learn new about the frauds there ... scary numbers !!!

[valokordin]

The numbers will be terrible, how much slop and dirt will come out, it is terribly scary to stand up for the country and for the people. The less you know the better you sleep

[Egen]

why do we suddenly find out and who suddenly removes, everything is grabbed there :(

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Will not be removed. There - captured, but still not all who are needed are captured.

[qwertynsan]

As I understand it, everything is in ignorance. The authorities, the innocent sheep, which are deceived by subordinates. Soon, Shoigu will begin to deceive, and he will also not notice anything until they are seized. We live wonderful. When will they choke? The piece is very large. Or the saying does not apply to celestials?

[korvin1976]

Personally, I get the impression that the situation will develop like this:
New year's night.
Congratulation of the President:
Dear Russians .... blah blah blah
Here is my gift for the New Year, the former Moscow Region Serdyukov is guilty.

On the one hand, this is certainly absurd, but ....... judge for yourself. Put all the eggs in one basket, it's on the verge of a fool.
Started a business on the grief of Serdyukov, Hooray-hooray
They waited a little bit and started a business on Serdyukov himself, again hooray hooray
As a result, we have at least two loud cheers!
In the event that Serdyukov was pulled right away, only one thing.
So what is better two or one?
The people are politics and psychology, think with your head!

[Roman Skomorokhov]

That’s the fact of the matter, they have started two cases, but they will bring one to the end. With a harem. And the second to the thunder of fanfare and shackles quietly hushed.

[Black]

And you, my friend, Utopian! Is your last name Campanella?

[korvin1976]

Utopian is not a Utopian, but I can put a series of sequential actions in a row. And this series, I hope, still has a place to be. I will not give examples of chain links, as they say, I will remain with my own. And in most cases, still do not believe it. The point is to pour then from empty to empty ...........?
At least what I spoke about in 2009 is happening now, with enviable regularity. It may not be exactly as I wanted, and not so fast, but it happens.
Well, in order to still think about what is happening, there is such a psychological trick: A bad cop, a good cop. Scroll the film of events back, then you will understand what I’m talking about, you won’t be able to, well then do not blame me.

[Egen]

"under a loan agreement, she transferred these funds to VitaProject LLC, the founders of which were Expert and Alexey Naumkin"

So they bought the objects with stolen money ?! Well done !! Billions were chopped off from nothing! Yes, they need to write textbooks, and then all sorts of Westerners teach us like they are such successful entrepreneurs! :))

And the villain comes out - a sexual maniac, one Naumkin manipulated behind the scenes ... the rest are all poor girls :( :))

[KIA]

Now the noise will calm down and find a new stool, bread position, the brigade does not give up.

[Gorchakov]

I think that above Vasilyeva, law enforcement officers will not be allowed to poke around ... The upper bar of the legal field of activity of the investigating authorities is clearly defined and voiced by the prime minister ... The presumption of innocence begins to operate above this bar in Russia ....

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Gorchakov

I think that above Vasilyeva, law enforcement officers will not be allowed to poke around ..

If Putin shows his will, then not only will he turn up, but he will be imprisoned.

[baltika-18]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

If Putin shows his will, not only will he turn up, but he will be imprisoned.

Again, if? He will not show anything, he is slowly moving to its natural end.

[Gorchakov]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

If Putin shows his will, then not only will he turn up, but he will be imprisoned.

Putin has shown will and gave the go-ahead ... Things have gone wrong ... If he continues to show his will, then he will not be the president, but the monarch .... Do you all achieve this? I heard his opinion on TV and there he said everything correctly and specifically ... But Medvedev openly defined this level of responsibility and his words are an oral order for the investigating authorities .. In addition, he called the investigators goats, which Putin never allowed himself ... Medvedev was completely overwhelmed, considering himself to be the navel of the earth ... It was with him that these Serdyukov came to taste and it was with him that a female battalion of tax officers and relatives was introduced into the Moscow Region to clean and cover his rear ... That would continue if it weren’t for the president has changed .... Personally, I have always been against the liberal policies of Medvedev, his Human Rights Council, his young liberal government ... I was always outraged when this blogger-lawyer, pretending to fight corruption, destroyed old cadres and broke on the pretext of rotation human destinies ... I consider him to be the main successor to the Gorbachev case ... And Putin? Putin should not intervene anywhere else, except that he is simply obliged to change the government along with the prime minister, thereby giving the SC freedom of action ... By doing this, he will allow law enforcement officers to go up one more step in solving corruption cases ... But just do not intervene into the affairs of the investigation, otherwise all his enemies to the whole of Russia and the whole world will trumpet that Putin is a dictator ....

[omsbon]

Please note that the status of the stool began to change, there was an effective manager to which there were no complaints, and now he is a deceived, poorly seeing loshara minister. I think that soon it will go down.

[Olego48]

They used to say “SON OF THE REGION”, and everyone understood that the boy is an orphan and serves the Motherland ... And with the appearance of Serdyukov at the head of the Ministry of Defense, they started saying “Daughter of the OBORONSERVICE”, and everyone understands that she’s another lover and is stealing again ...

[Garrin]

Do not plant for theft, over non-performance of duties and criminal negligence must sit down.

[Bubo]

It's funny to look at all this "life". Satriks talked a lot about this with humorists, and the people pick up: the government (the inhabitants of heaven) lives separately, and the people live separately. This statement is the truth from which we can conclude that there is NO STATE, but there are only peculiar relationships regulated by laws, acts, decrees, etc., relationships between large and not very large groups of people (people, "officials", "inhabitants of heaven", "thieves with connections ", etc.) on a separate land area. And all this is called Russia.

PS: homo homini lupus est!

[Oleg14774]

It is very unfortunate, but my faith in Putin, even with my great desire to believe him, received a great slap in the face from this affair. Indeed, the gangster’s codec, not the government. Learned from the Clintons and about. amers.
The desire to save the bear for Putin will result in people turning away from him. I still write the last name "Putin" with a capital letter, but I am already thinking.
I think that in the place of Putin, Medved would not forgive him anything, but took the opportunity to sink to the end!
You can’t be liberal with liberals!

[military]

Quote: Oleg147741

The desire to save the bear for Putin will result in the people turning away from him.

do you still believe that he has such a desire? ... do not allow the opposite? ...

[Orik]

Only gullible optimists write with the big, and realists have long been writing with the small.

[tambourine 2012]

“The Investigative Committee (IC) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints against the former head of the military department Anatoly Serdyukov, since his subordinates, including Yevgeny Vasiliev,“ deceived ”him and“ misled him. ”For the loss of capitalist vigilance, the execution

[military]

"... From the materials of the case, it becomes clear that further investigation will move not" up ", but" in breadth "...
and "pyramidal" ...
"... it is known - swans sing for the first time
at that hour when death will be felt ...
but it would be nice if other singers
passed away before singing ... " - this is known to both the authorities and the stool ...

[Olego48]

Serdyukov sits and thinks: I pulled her (Vasilyeva) out of the shit, shared my bed with her, gave her tsatzki and pictures from the museum, won her the Order of Honor, and she treated me this way. Yes, you will not envy the UK, what should be invented and how to shield the "stool" when all the threads lead to him, and therefore they sculpt nonsense.

[military]

Quote: Olego48

Yes, you will not envy the UK, what should be invented and how to shield the "stool" when all the threads lead to him, and therefore they sculpt nonsense.

if the copyright for all these "literary and legal pearls" really belongs to the UK ... then Medvedev in his emotional assessment ("goats") is not so far from the truth ...

[Consmo]

In general, the assessment of a mansion of 90 lemons and the simultaneous transfer there of 300 lemons for construction and parallel privatization, this is a prison.
It will be difficult for Tolik to get out of it.

[Stiletto]

It will be smeared, not the first time. Unfortunately, they are not afraid of such "difficulties".

[SSR]

Quote: Konsmo

It will be difficult for Tolik to get out of it.

oh .. missed)))

in resolutions on initiating a fraud case in the sale of a country house in the Krasnodar Territory (the so-called "Serdyukov's villa"), - on the role of the ex-head of the military department in the events reported extremely dry and evasive:

So this is the very thing that saddens .... that Serdyuk is covered and sewn with white thread ... they think the people are not visible and "people are eating" .. like not the first time .. think .. ordinary people ...
In general, a paradox turns out .. a heart and a bear cost more than 60 tons of Russian citizens

[Oleg14774]

So he (a little) will be covered, they do not leave "theirs". That we are not 37 years old is yes, but this is not a reason to cover up traitors to the Motherland. And it's like a litmus test that shows the real essence of who is who. Here, either BB Putin was terribly scared that "no one" was touched or they all together. After all, nobody canceled the logic. It looks ugly. Very ugly! Because of the traitor and enemy of the people, Stouretkin can only be substituted like that about which I wrote a little higher.

[Averias]

Let it be the fruit of my fevered imagination :-) To hell with him, let's say the fact that Serdyukov "fell" a victim of rabid matriarchy and female chauvinism. Let's say that in childhood he suffered a psychological trauma from a woman (delirious, it's funny himself). We assume that he, all tucked up and henpecked, fulfilled the will of the "formidable" and greedy furies. Even if the fact that he was found in Vasilyeva's apartment almost in his underpants, maybe they were practicing hard sado-maso (slave and mistress). Then it turns out that these furies were in power over him even before the post of defense minister, since he brought them with his entire composition? Do you have friends, does this fit in your head? I can't. And where did the different services look then? And most importantly, how to be this signature on documents. Or that it turns out that they also took possession of his seals and, under the threat of a whip, forced him to sign? Wonderful, by God.

[Black]

And what ..... a wonderful script for a porn film. Go with a bang!

[Strashila]

Like, just a sucker ... and this should write off everything.

[Cavas]

It follows from them that the Investigative Committee (IC) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints against the former head of the military department Anatoly Serdyukov, since his subordinates, including Yevgeny Vasilyev, "deceived" him and "misled" him.

Ugh ....................... .......................... untranslatable Russian folklore!

[Oleg14774]

This naive guy is a little bit, and why they shot it if there are no claims ?! Yes, you can’t refuse logic! And the fact that the leader is responsible for those subordinates whom they typed do not know ?!

[wax]

I wonder if Serdyukov uses the chance given to him to shoot himself. Or a heart attack?

[sergskak]

Change places and it will be fine! Maybe something will change. I want to believe! But all the performances of our "sweet couple" give the impression that they are preparing people to simply let everything go on the brakes.

[erased]

All in white and clean. And all around are enemies. Straight Malchish-Kibalchish! Only for some reason I can’t believe it. Absolutely. And why would it?

[military]

Quote: erased

Straight Malchish-Kibalchish! Only for some reason I can’t believe it. Absolutely. And why would it?

maybe a box of cookies under the arm and condensed milk dripping from the lips give out ...

[erased]

Vernyak! So it was a blast!

[iulai]

Taburetkina will be taken out from under the blow, if he begins to give out buyers, then there will be familiar faces of Putin and Dimon!

[F-22]

Everybody count!

[military]

Quote: F-22

Everybody count!

one ... like lamb on a skewer ...

[i-gor63]

Sorry. And it all started so promisingly. But it will be so - he did not dance in the Temple and stole a bottle of vodka in a store. Yes, not 37 !!!!

[Pilot200809]

Taburetkin includes a fool. He feels the ass fried, so he pretends to be an innocent ram. Like, this is my sheep laminated. Oh well.

[military]

Quote: Pilot200809

He feels ass fried,

in a specific context, the second word, however, is spelled with a capital ...

[Captain ata]

Where is the ship headed by the deaf-mute, the stupid (very mildly said) captain and his kmanda of thieves?

[F-22]

Under the USSR, in the late 80s, the Pacific Fleet was a formidable force. Two aircraft carriers, dozens of surface ships of the 1st and 2nd rank, dozens of submarines of all classes, the atomic reconnaissance Ural.
In fact, even under Brezhnev, an active program began to build an ocean fleet, if not equal to the US Navy, then at least not much inferior. Now we can say that if the USSR were preserved, then this program would be brought to the end. By 2000, the Soviet Union would have had only nine aircraft carriers, and there was still a large-scale program for the construction of the "Orlan", "Anteev" and other unique submarine and surface ships.
And now Mistral ... by the way, why not return 141 for revision!

[Volzhanin]

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[Volzhanin]

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[tomket]

why was there all the fuss if Upyrenko declared almost HOLY aka APOSTOL? Have you been shown the location? Like, but it all seemed to you, and in general there are evil tongues .... To mine, Medvedev either drinks Gummy berry juice, and we don’t knock it down, or frankly spits people in the face.

[svit55]

It’s a pity it’s not the 37th, it’s a pity there is no definition of “enemy of the people”, but we are talking about the Defense Ministry!!!!! It owns military secrets, its b...d know the entire structure of building supplies and providing the Armed Forces with weapons, fuel and lubricants, communications......all that defines a modern army. The Ministry of Defense is not the Ministry of Agriculture, it is the sovereignty and security of the state.
Undoubtedly, Putin and Medvedev bear full responsibility for Taburetkin.

[WW3]

The Investigative Committee (IC) of the Russian Federation has almost no complaints against the former head of the military department Anatoly Serdyukov, since his subordinates, including Evgeniy Vasiliev, “deceived” him and “misled” him.

Although not Stanislavsky, I still don’t believe it!

[1goose3]

Serdyukov is an enemy, trying to cover up other goals with theft. I have written about this several times, I will not repeat myself.

[uizik]

They're screwing around again! Without the boss's permission, you can only steal a pencil. He recruited prostitutes and with their help destroyed the army. It seems that he was specially appointed minister to destroy the army. I would draw up an indictment for him, cleaner than 37, only based on the articles read in the media . Lifetime execution would not be enough for him!

[fenix57]

99 percent that only those who are in prison today will be imprisoned. The rest, as always in Rus'...