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Current activities of Tupolev OJSC

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Tupolev OJSC is currently executing at least four state contracts for the repair of long-range aircraft aviationconcluded last December. What is noteworthy, they are concluded directly between the Ministry of Defense and the society itself. This is a fundamental difference from agreements for the repair of front-line and military transport aircraft, helicopters, for the repair of which on March 2 last year one mega-contract R / 4 / 1-11-DOGOZ was concluded with JSC Aviaremont, which already independently concludes agreements with co-executors of work.

To perform work for the needs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the maintenance of the Tu-160 1 aircraft on December 2011, two contracts were concluded - P / 4 / 2 / 18-11-DOGOZ and P / 4 / 2 / 16-12-DOGZ. The second contract assumes not only maintenance, but also repair of Tu-160 No. 602 and 605, as well as a long-awaited modernization. To perform these works, several subcontracts with KAPO im. Gorbunova, the cost of supplied products for modernization is more than 155 mln. Rub. only under one agreement with KAPO. KAPO Contract No. 2962 from 10.01.2012 g. Participation in the maintenance of aircraft Tu-160 »18 669 346 stage 1.12, 1.19, 1.25 GK

The implementation of work for the needs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the maintenance of the Tu-22MZ, MR aircraft is carried out under the contract P / 4 / 2 / 19-11-DOGOZ. This year, the co-contractor of works - KAPO, began repairing two Tu-22М3 and KoVR three Tu-22М3. In addition, another state contract No. P / 22 / 3 / 4-2-DOGOZ was concluded for servicing the Tu-15М12. For its execution, the Kazan aircraft manufacturers will supply the head contractor of products worth more than 36,9 million rubles.

In addition, Tupolev OJSC is the lead contractor for the repair of Tu-95MS strategic bomber. In fact, these works are carried out by forces TANTK them. Beriev. This year, after the second (medium) repair, two aircraft must be commissioned - Tu-95MS with serial numbers 00603 and 15105 (onboard 21 and 45). The contract for these works was signed on 1 June 2012, the TANTK for the work performed should receive 631,4 million rubles. The same company must perform under two contracts the maintenance of Tu-95MS bombers for 132 million rubles. I wrote about the work on the modernization of this type of aircraft several posts earlier.

The documents of JSC "Tupolev" mention OCD "Potential", the subject of which is not specified. The contract with the co-performer of work on it in the person of LII them. Gromov was signed 17 July this year. Judging by the used numbering system of contracts in the Tupolev firm, this OCD does not concern any of the existing types of long-range aircraft.

Program Tu-204M and Tu-214

I have already mentioned the contract number 1303 of 20 on April 2012, concluded between the Tupolev company and UAC in the amount of 209 million rubles. The subject of it is the execution of work on the topic: "Creating a Tu-214 aircraft in a special version, equipped with a special communication center." The contract is concluded in pursuance of state. Contract No. 13 / А-2218-11 from 08 December 2011 of the year concluded between JSC UAC and the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation. Apparently, under this agreement, the Tu-214VPU mentioned in the KAPO report for the past year will be built.

Of particular interest are the figures and the consolidated order for the Tu-214 and Tu-204СМ for the structures of state aviation. The need for them in the Tu-204CM is estimated at 14 aircraft, the recipients are determined by the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergency Situations. Eleven Tu-214 should go to the Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Ministry of Emergency Situations, Federal Security Service, Roscosmos, Office of the President of the Russian Federation.

The numbers of planned deliveries of Tu-204CM to Russian civil aviation companies have changed somewhat. In the period from 2014 to 2020, OAO Tupolev plans to deliver up to 40 Tu-204CM aircraft. Recipients indicated the airline "Red Wings" (15 aircraft), Vim-Avia (11), Aviastar-Tu (5), Vladivostok-Avia (6), Mirninskoe AP ​​"Alrosa" (3). As we see, in comparison with the report for the 1 quarter, Cosmos Airlines disappeared from the list of potential customers, and there is no question about options at all. Although, unfortunately, plans on paper change almost quarterly, and in life none of them is realized ...
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  1. itr
    itr 10 December 2012 09: 12
    +5
    Yes, the amounts announced in this article say that the company does not make airplanes but sells tomatoes. Apparently, the plant is breathing incense. It's a pity !!
    1. dimanf
      dimanf 10 December 2012 11: 30
      +3
      all the money for the PUPERjet goes.
      the rest are funded on a residual basis.
      1. urzul
        urzul 10 December 2012 11: 53
        +1
        And now we are looking at the plan for the Development of Civil Aviation until 2015; about 30 billion rubles are allocated annually.
        http://www.minpromtorg.gov.ru/ministry/strategic/sectoral/8
        Budget financing of Superjet (the plane is assembled by Sukhoi Civil Aircraft, GSS) and engines for it Sam-146 (NPO Saturn) in 2003-2010. amounted to 16,9 billion rubles. on 15 government contracts, the Accounts Chamber writes (a report is published on its website), and developers raised 27,1 billion rubles from extrabudgetary sources. Budget expenditures only for a Superjet aircraft (without engine) - 12,4 billion rubles, and from extrabudgetary sources - 20,3 billion rubles.
        And these are the numbers from 2003 to 2010 year, even if we assign extrabudgetary amounts, well, it doesn’t work out that everything goes to the duper jet
        1. dimanf
          dimanf 10 December 2012 12: 14
          +2
          Less than 334 million of budget funds were spent on the development and testing of the Tu-100.
          “Extreme estimates of the costs of developing SuperJet indicate that 3,5 billion dollars have already been spent on the program, which is more than four times higher than the originally planned amount. For comparison: the development of the E-series line cost Embraer one billion
          1. urzul
            urzul 10 December 2012 12: 32
            -2
            Quote: dimanf
            “Extreme estimates of the costs of developing SuperJet indicate that 3,5 billion dollars have already been spent on the program, which is more than four times higher than the originally planned amount. For comparison: the development of the E-series line cost Embraer one billion
            Have you switched to the western press? The author of the figures is Ruben Johnson (Reuben F.Johnson), he just could not justify his figure in 3,5 billion, and why. People hawala wink

            Quote: dimanf
            Less than 334 million of budget funds were spent on the development and testing of the Tu-100.
            And now we read business news and find out the truth, and henceforth do not read the yellow analytes.

            The government included the Tu-334 among the priority projects in the field of civil aviation and, according to Igor Shevchuk, for all the years of work on it allocatedColo 1 billion dollars from the budget.
            Read more: http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2004/06/24/ industry / 562949979067177
            1. dimanf
              dimanf 10 December 2012 12: 51
              +1
              Quote: urzul
              And now we read business news and find out the truth, and henceforth do not read the yellow analytes.

              Documents to the studio please!

              Is Natalya Bendina really an expert in aviation?
              And why is there no mention of the victory in the state competition to create a regional aircraft a year earlier, the paper Russian Regional Jet (now a superjet) over an already completed TU?

              the article you are referring to also says:
              Among the interested, according to RBC daily, airlines such as Aeroflot, Siberia, etc.
              Read in full: http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2004/06/24/industry/562949979067177
              And then they drove Aeroflot under a superjet.
              Tupolev’s appealed to the government with a request to cancel within five years the VAT for the aircraft, as well as provide state guarantees for commercial loans. However, no steps were taken by the officials in this regard.
              Read in full: http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2004/06/24/industry/562949979067177
              1. urzul
                urzul 10 December 2012 13: 09
                -2
                Quote: dimanf
                Is Natalya Bendina really an expert in aviation?

                She quoted the words of the General Designer Tupolev at that time, whose refutation has not been received since 2004. Moreover, this is not even the entire amount of appropriations in the design bureau. And note, I give you a link to a business newspaper, not a yellow press.
                over the finished TU?
                That the "ready-made" plane had no buyers? Well apart from Iran's desire expand production at home.
                Yes, and comrades from Ukraine tried (since An-148 also needs to be moved), I quote Nikitin:
                As for the third Tu-334 aircraft, our Ukrainian colleagues delayed the delivery of a wing for him. Instead January it only came in October"

                And we would have our own, patriotic. But no one needed abroad and completely dependent on supplies from Ukraine, cool would be a lever in negotiations on the gas issue.

                Tupolev’s appealed to the government with a request to cancel within five years the VAT for the aircraft, as well as provide state guarantees for commercial loans. However, no steps were taken by the officials in this regard.
                Read in full: http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2004/06/24/industry/562949979067177
                As well as leasing companies and a total of another 1 billion dollars.
                1. FID
                  FID 10 December 2012 13: 15
                  +7
                  Quote: urzul
                  And we would have our own, patriotic. But no one needed abroad and completely dependent on supplies from Ukraine, cool would be a lever in negotiations on the gas issue.

                  Tell me, who needs super? I do not see the queues behind him, except for third-grade a / c who want to buy on the cheap. Domestic a / c, even at half price, it is not needed, except for those who are forced through the Federal Air Transport Agency to acquire this device.
                  1. dimanf
                    dimanf 10 December 2012 13: 23
                    +3
                    picture from the superjet site!


                    and a lot of Russian here?
                    1. urzul
                      urzul 10 December 2012 13: 40
                      -1
                      Well, even from the photo:
                      1 - West
                      2 - West
                      3 - 50 / 50
                      4 - production St. Petersburg
                      5 - West
                      6 - production Nizhny Novgorod
                      7 - production Nizhny Novgorod
                      8 - west partly Russia
                      9 - west, but this system is also on the "people's" Tu-334
                      Total even in the photo no more than 50.
                      And according to the SCA reports in 2012, no more than 35% of the money went to the West from the cost.
                  2. urzul
                    urzul 10 December 2012 13: 28
                    0
                    Of the latter, the order is still 10 Mexico, price negotiations for 2 Kyrgyzstan, negotiations on 10 with Russian Post.
                    This is September information. So far, the queue has been painted on the 168 boards.
                    The first to transfer to Indonesia and Mexico, which is not the third-class Mexican, the largest carrier in the Mexican domestic market, as of October 2012, operates 34-36 A320 aircraft on 32 directions. And the Pininfarina interior is not for the poor.
                    1. FID
                      FID 10 December 2012 13: 34
                      +5
                      Quote: urzul
                      And the Pininfarina interior is not for the poor.

                      Of course not for the poor! At 20 million, at a cost of almost 40 million, the rich only take it. I see neither Lufthansa, nor Erfrans, nor the British, not even Arabs. What are you talking about. 10 for Mail - where will they fly? With a range of 2400, Mail will soon wait for IL-476.
                2. VAF
                  VAF 10 December 2012 17: 05
                  0
                  Quote: urzul
                  Yes, and comrades from Ukraine tried (since the An-148 must also be moved)


                  Andrei. I do not agree with you here. An-148 and so it goes fine, unlike Super, correctly said below the namesake .... only for nothing or under the threat of any sanctions for local airlines and carriers.

                  And about the fact that he is being "pushed" to the Papuans .. why are you not telling that VTB has allocated a loan for $ 2.5 billion for this case ?????

                  What not to take on such conditions? wassat
                  1. urzul
                    urzul 11 December 2012 14: 19
                    0
                    And a lot of them for the 4 year of the series released?
                    that VTB has allocated a loan for 2.5 billion. $ ?????
                    Rubles only, with a black spot currency.
            2. FID
              FID 10 December 2012 12: 59
              +3
              Quote: urzul
              The government included the Tu-334 among the priority projects in the field of civil aviation

              And then what? Money allocated, but KAPO - bankrupt. Where did the money go, that’s the question!
              1. dimanf
                dimanf 10 December 2012 13: 05
                +1
                rzul

                Here is more news from your source RBC.
                you said that he is writing the truth.

                Lady Gaga thanks Medvedev for his attitude towards gays
                08.12.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX RBC daily Printable version
                The world-famous American performer Lady Gaga praised the fact that Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev does not support the law on the fight against the propaganda of homosexuality. She wrote thanks in her microblog on Twitter (@ladygaga), which is read by more than 31 million people around the world.

                On December 7, Lady Gaga arrived in Russia, where she will have two concerts in support of the Born This Way album: December 9 in St. Petersburg, and December 12 in Moscow. Known for her struggle for the rights of sexual minorities, the singer wrote a message on Twitter. “Thank you, Prime Minister D. Medvedev, for not supporting your party’s gay propaganda law, instead supporting my show and fans all over Russia,” Lady Gaga thanked.

                “Prime Minister, please accept my gratitude. I look forward to speaking in RUSSIA and want to celebrate the fact that our cultures finally met together, ”the singer added on her microblog.

                Thus, Lady Gaga responded to Dmitry Medvedev’s interview with reporters of five Russian television channels on December 7. During the conversation, the Dozhd television viewer, who introduced himself as an official of the United Russia press service and who was openly gay, asked the prime minister why a law was needed to ban homosexuality propaganda. “Not all moral issues, far from all behavioral habits, far from all communication issues between people need to be turned into legislation. Because not all relationships between people are subject to regulation of the law. This is my position and position. "United Russia"- the head of government answered him.
                Read in full: http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2012/12/08/focus/562949985289633
                GOOD POSITION OF UNITED RUSSIA!
                1. urzul
                  urzul 10 December 2012 13: 19
                  -2
                  Is something wrong here? No tweet or no interview ?!
                  Are you talking about this position? apparently forgotten to accidentally add an article:
                  The law on the prohibition of the promotion of homosexuality among minors in St. Petersburg was adopted in November 2011 and entered into force in March this year. According to the law, all "public actions aimed at promoting sodomy, lesbianism, bisexuality, transgender among minors ”are punishable by administrative procedure.
                  Read in full: http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2012/12/08/focus/562949985289633
                  1. dimanf
                    dimanf 10 December 2012 13: 38
                    0
                    The law on the prohibition of the promotion of homosexuality among minors in St. Petersburg was adopted in November 2011 and entered into force in March this year. According to the law, all “public actions aimed at promoting sodomy, lesbianism, bisexuality, transgender among minors” are punishable by administrative procedure
                    Read in full: http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2012/12/08/focus/562949985289633

                    here is a missing paragraph!
                    But does this change anything?
                    1. urzul
                      urzul 10 December 2012 13: 47
                      -2
                      As I understand it, you do not agree with the position on the prohibition of advertising HOMOSEXUALISM?
                      Quote: dimanf
                      GOOD POSITION OF UNITED RUSSIA!
                      Since you have such a negative wink the bill is then United Russia, adopted and entered into force. But Medvedev can blurt out anything further, this is far from his first nonsense; Putin has repeatedly pointed out his place.
                      1. dimanf
                        dimanf 10 December 2012 13: 56
                        0
                        Quote: urzul
                        As I understand it, you do not agree with the position on the prohibition of advertising HOMOSEXUALISM?

                        do not distort !!!!
                        it’s your elected president who has appointed such a prime minister!
                        and he voiced the position of the party, which you are actively defending!
                        Are you not a member of United Russia for an hour?
                      2. urzul
                        urzul 10 December 2012 14: 01
                        -2
                        do not distort !!!!
                        it’s your elected president who has appointed such a prime minister!
                        and he voiced the position of the party, which you are actively defending!
                        Are you not a member of United Russia for an hour?
                        So I just quoted you a legally formalized position, not Dmitry Pearls.
                        That you weren’t and didn’t intend to, although you were offered a position under the Governor of the Moscow Region.
                      3. dimanf
                        dimanf 10 December 2012 14: 15
                        0
                        Quote: urzul
                        So I just quoted you a legally formalized position, not Dmitry Pearls.


                        Dmitry is the head of the government!
                        it follows from your logic that all of Putin’s campaign promises are also pearls!
                        they were also not legalized!
                        and his current speeches are empty words?
                        they are not decorated either!
                      4. urzul
                        urzul 10 December 2012 14: 21
                        0
                        This is already a distortion. When there is an adopted law prepared by the party, and the leader says the opposite, is it not pearl !?
                        In general, flood will go further, if you want to continue in PM
        2. urzul
          urzul 10 December 2012 13: 20
          -2
          We know where, "Tupolev Plaza", have you heard maybe?
          1. FID
            FID 10 December 2012 13: 27
            +5
            All clear. You can continue in the same vein.
            1. Chicot 1
              Chicot 1 10 December 2012 16: 34
              +5
              Superjet 100 was initially a failed project. And above all because of its passenger capacity. And this could be seen and understood even by a layman. But the money invested in its development and construction would be more than enough to fine-tune the Tu-334. Which would actually fly and work now ...
              However, Poghosyan shut off the oxygen to the Tupolevites, and I’m glad to try - in fact, he wasted his grandmothers in vain by creating a stupid dummy and, in essence, thrashed the Tupolev cars. The quintessential swan did not come out of them. They died of hunger ... And they could replenish the fleet of domestic air carriers. But no, it wasn’t here! ..
              And the "Superjet" remained nasty, but popular and sleek uselessness ...

              Maybe now Poghosyan will take on an airbus? .. No, but really - why not? !! .. It is clear that he (this very airbus "from Poghosyan"), too, will not be needed by anyone (like the "Superjet-100 Well, at least the people will amuse again ... and denyuzhku will "master" the Kag-Bae again ... wink
      2. dimanf
        dimanf 10 December 2012 13: 04
        0
        Here is more news from your source RBC.
        you said that he is writing the truth.

        Lady Gaga thanks Medvedev for his attitude towards gays
        08.12.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX RBC daily Printable version
        The world-famous American performer Lady Gaga praised the fact that Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev does not support the law on the fight against the propaganda of homosexuality. She wrote thanks in her microblog on Twitter (@ladygaga), which is read by more than 31 million people around the world.

        On December 7, Lady Gaga arrived in Russia, where she will have two concerts in support of the Born This Way album: December 9 in St. Petersburg, and December 12 in Moscow. Known for her struggle for the rights of sexual minorities, the singer wrote a message on Twitter. “Thank you, Prime Minister D. Medvedev, for not supporting your party’s gay propaganda law, instead supporting my show and fans all over Russia,” Lady Gaga thanked.

        “Prime Minister, please accept my gratitude. I look forward to speaking in RUSSIA and want to celebrate the fact that our cultures finally met together, ”the singer added on her microblog.

        Thus, Lady Gaga responded to Dmitry Medvedev’s interview with reporters of five Russian television channels on December 7. During the conversation, the Dozhd television viewer, who introduced himself as an official of the United Russia press service and who was openly gay, asked the prime minister why a law was needed to ban homosexuality propaganda. “Not all moral issues, far from all behavioral habits, far from all communication issues between people need to be turned into legislation. Because not all relationships between people are subject to regulation of the law. This is my position and position. "United Russia"- the head of government answered him.
        Read in full: http://www.rbcdaily.ru/2012/12/08/focus/562949985289633
        GOOD POSITION OF UNITED RUSSIA!
  • VAF
    VAF 10 December 2012 17: 26
    +4
    Quote: itr
    Yes, the amounts announced in this article say that the company does not make planes but sells tomatoes


    Absolutely correctly noticed! +! wassat

    Considering that the "modernization" of the Su-25 into the SM version cost 125-137 million rubles apiece. then on the Tu-160 such an amount, yes ....... maybe there was a "discount" of interest by 300-400% ??? wassat
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak 10 December 2012 09: 15
    +3
    In addition, JSC Tupolev is the prime contractor for the repair of Tu-95MS strategic bombers. In fact, these works are carried out by the forces of TANTK them. Beriev.

    Here are those times ... Recently they wrote that Beriev had a blockage with orders for the Be-200, and then he was repairing the Tu-95MS. Do the Tupolevs also lack personnel?
    1. PLO
      PLO 10 December 2012 09: 19
      +11
      Tu-95MS handsome
      1. TRex
        TRex 10 December 2012 10: 19
        +3
        A handsome man ... I just would like the Tupolev company to be engaged not in maintenance and modernization, but in the concrete production of new machines. At civilian airports, the sheer dominance of 737 Boeings and Airbases ...
        We can do it ourselves ... without "partners" who clap their hands and melt all kinds of old stuff into Russia. Where is the domestic aviation industry and in what condition ??? Tell your colleagues about current affairs at aircraft factories ... Where are the new cars? Why in the Roosysky sky rule the ball of the Americans?
    2. Igorboss16
      Igorboss16 10 December 2012 10: 54
      +5
      we recently changed the leadership at KAPO, they carried out optimization, fired a bunch of people, there are 17 milling machines in the workshop, it was mothballed and only 3-4 work, 13 people were assembled on the wing assembly, and before it was 3 times more! and the other day we were told that the plant is merging with someone and the management will be in Moscow, and they have plans for the next year 6 or more machines, the workers barely barely have time to rivet 3 cars and here are such expressions! We are asked what will have to work in 3 shifts in order to be in time? and there’s no place to recruit people, everyone is retired, that's why it's all so bad, and the management doesn’t give a damn
      Yes, and I can say that with the current pace of modernization, that 22m3 it will be ready not yet soon, not at all soon,
      but one worker compares me that Boeing 1 is rolling out a car !! these are the pies
    3. VAF
      VAF 10 December 2012 17: 07
      +2
      Quote: Wedmak
      Do the Tupolevs also lack personnel?


      This upgrade of the Tu-95MS is connected with the screws no more than that! +!
    4. tichsha
      tichsha 11 December 2012 14: 09
      +1
      And today I have an employee of TNTK them. Berieva asked: how are they supposed to work with Tu-95 and Be200, but he answered: it’s not bad with Tu-95, but Be200 I hear for the first time, there is no normal contract until 2025!
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 10 December 2012 09: 20
    +10
    Our government is doing everything to destroy the aviation industry in the end, so that it would be impossible to revive it. Hundreds or even thousands of Tupolevs flew around the country in the USSR, and now, they are happy with orders for repairs and maintenance, allocate tiny amounts for new developments, after which they will say that it is better to buy abroad than spend money on the development of your Aviation Industry.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 10 December 2012 09: 22
      -6
      Nobody destroys anything. Serdyuk certainly did a business, but it seems that with the advent of Shoigu they took up the mind.
  • Armata
    Armata 10 December 2012 09: 26
    +4
    Sib NIA them. Chaplygin and TsAGI put 2 new test bench. 1 under the TU enclosures. 2 under En. The first korpnyak will go there from the 3 of the 2013 quarter of the year for testing. Now we are doing hydraulics and tracking electronics on them. gyro drives and control electronics.
    Around the same time, it is planned to load both plants.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 10 December 2012 09: 27
      +1
      Stands for new developments?
      1. Armata
        Armata 10 December 2012 09: 34
        +2
        Quote: Wedmak
        Stands for new developments?
        It is mounted under already concluded contracts, to replace the old ones. Another one was ordered for new projects, but TK will be available only by the 2014 year.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 10 December 2012 09: 42
          +1
          It’s even somehow "scary" to ask whether a new stand has been ordered under the PAK. smile
          Any such suspicions?
          1. Armata
            Armata 10 December 2012 09: 49
            +2
            Quote: Wedmak
            It’s even somehow "scary" to ask whether a new stand has been ordered under the PAK.
            Any such suspicions?
            Honestly, no idea yet. When we see TK, then we find out. request We are only engaged in the preparation of production and we are not given such information.
            1. valokordin
              valokordin 10 December 2012 10: 35
              +4
              I met the guys who repaired the Tu-160, they said spare parts were ordered for a plane in France. Our factories do not do such parts
              1. Armata
                Armata 10 December 2012 10: 39
                +1
                Quote: valokordin
                I met the guys who repaired the Tu-160, they said spare parts were ordered for a plane in France. Our factories do not do such parts
                There is such a thing. Now they are just beginning to revive their own production. And this does not only apply to airplanes; carobelians also have similar problems.
                1. FID
                  FID 10 December 2012 11: 21
                  +7
                  Greetings, colleagues! What can be ordered in France for the repair of the Tu-160? Enlighten me please. Evgeny, most likely, is installing the MS-21 test bench, I think so. Since, An-70, they have already passed. As for the revival of their own .... KAPO is a little bad somehow. There, at the top, there is a comment by Kapovets, I fully confirm. I just arrived from Kazan.
                  1. Armata
                    Armata 10 December 2012 11: 24
                    +4
                    Hi Sergey I don’t know exactly which one. Locals say it’s like under An. Himself recently, only from Novosib arrived there just signed the technicals for sensors.
                    1. FID
                      FID 10 December 2012 11: 28
                      +6
                      If near An, it is not known when Kazan will start riveting them. The plant, it seems, began to get along, but nothing is known. In KAPO, the strip was extended and they began to build an international terminal, according to rumors. It will be like in Ulyanovsk - an international airport right at the factory, beauty ....
                      1. Armata
                        Armata 10 December 2012 11: 35
                        +2
                        Quote: SSI
                        The plant, it seems, began to get along, but nothing is known. In KAPO, the strip was extended and they began to build an international terminal, according to rumors. It will be like in Ulyanovsk - an international airport right at the factory, beauty ....
                        Well, some kind of blunder. drinks
                      2. VAF
                        VAF 10 December 2012 17: 13
                        +1
                        Quote: SSI
                        If near An, it is not known when Kazan will start riveting them.


                        Seryoga, I heard speeches of the director of KAPO, and so he voiced the experimental cars in 17-18 are planned. but in series since 19-20 ..... well, I don’t know how it really will be, but the fact that he didn’t say a word in it. as is customary with .... 15-16-slender rows and ranks ... that's for sure, +! drinks
          2. VAF
            VAF 10 December 2012 17: 10
            +1
            Quote: Wedmak
            Any such suspicions?


            Denis, well, you want ... that would be ahead of the rest wassat

            There is still a Su-33 on "static" "flying"!
  • Krilion
    Krilion 10 December 2012 11: 25
    +4
    judging by the top photo, the patient is rather dead .... the shabby look of the workshop just kills ....
    1. FID
      FID 10 December 2012 11: 30
      +6
      This is a photo from the Tupolev Design Studio, on the Yauza embankment, but, in general, you are not far from the truth!
      1. dimanf
        dimanf 10 December 2012 11: 38
        +2
        it is necessary to clean MINPROMTORG from manturov and his clique.
        otherwise it only creates the appearance of activity.
        some cuts and no real help to aircraft manufacturers.
      2. VAF
        VAF 10 December 2012 17: 15
        0
        Quote: SSI
        This is a photo from the Tupolev Design Studio on the Yauza embankment,


        That would have posted a photo from the "redwood" workshop !!!!! bully
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 10 December 2012 11: 31
      -3
      Do you judge by production by photograph? And not very good.
    3. VAF
      VAF 10 December 2012 17: 16
      +1
      Quote: Krilion
      The shabby appearance of the workshop simply kills ..


      This is not a workshop. a .. workshop bully and has nothing to do with the KAPO factory! soldier
  • jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 10 December 2012 13: 55
    +1
    Quote: dimanf
    Puperjet
    I first read duper laughing Tupolev bends, it seems, slowly, it’s a pity if everything will fall apart like that
  • tichsha
    tichsha 10 December 2012 17: 13
    +2
    Late! Already the Boeings and airbuses were ordered by the GA, and no company will change them anymore! called pros ... whether! so let even military aircraft thrive on their machines!