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The return of the ships of the Black Sea Fleet from the Mediterranean voyage is suspended until the special instructions of the General Staff

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The return of the ships of the Black Sea Fleet from the Mediterranean voyage is suspended until the special instructions of the General StaffThe return of the warships of the Black Sea fleet The Russian Federation from the Mediterranean campaign was suspended "to the special instructions of the General Staff." This was reported today by ITAR-TASS a source in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia.

"Because of the changed operational situation in the region, the detachment was ordered to linger in the Aegean Sea in front of the straits until the special instructions of the General Staff," said a source.

"The decision to detain a detachment of ships in front of the Black Sea Straits is related to the unstable operational situation in the Mediterranean. In the near future, Russian ships may receive new instructions. Until they are ordered, they will remain in the Aegean Sea until further notice. "- said the agency interlocutor.
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  1. YARY
    YARY 9 December 2012 11: 39
    +18
    And this is not surprising!
    1. YARY
      YARY 9 December 2012 11: 40
      +3
      And another reason for reflection -


      As well as the arrival of the fleet of SyShyA with AUG to the coast of Syria
      1. YARY
        YARY 9 December 2012 12: 01
        0
        The same Qatar and the Saudis have already sent more than two thousand people who were with them for "spiritual training" to Kazan. !!!!
        So it is in Ufa !!!
        There is information about the appearance in Dagestan and Chechnya of very well-equipped "students" from the same countries.
        The question is how long the authorities will flirt with the "Muslim leaders" -
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eWRZWpj7Lpw
      2. YARY
        YARY 9 December 2012 12: 02
        +17
        The same Qatar and the Saudis have already sent more than two thousand people who were with them for "spiritual training" to Kazan. !!!!
        So it is in Ufa !!!
        There is information about the appearance in Dagestan and Chechnya of very well-equipped "students" from the same countries.
        The question is how long the authorities will flirt with the "Muslim leaders" -

        Only a free translation did he say the following;
        ".... We will slaughter all Russian women and children!"
        1. Bashkaus
          Bashkaus 9 December 2012 12: 43
          +62
          Here I am, a Russian peasant sitting listening to all of this and looking at the bowl of turnips on an ax and a gun hanging on the wall ...
          So wake up cutting Russian women (looking at the mother and wife), and children (turning the head of their little son)
          Well, well, someone explained to them that consultations on the conquest of Russia should be taken from France, Germany and Tataro-Mangol, and not star-striped ones - they will teach them, then they won’t be glad
          1. homosum20
            homosum20 9 December 2012 16: 38
            +4
            And this is the Syrian scenario - the dream of the Americans. It is called "soft war".
            1. Kaa
              Kaa 9 December 2012 23: 11
              +1
              Quote: homosum20
              But this is the Syrian scenario - the dream of the Americans.

              "The operation is organized and carried out by the US CIA. There is a head office - this is the CIA, and all the intelligence structures of the satellite countries, the US allies are subordinate to it, so in the" center "you only need to select" which button to press ": it may be" Mossad ", it could be the secret services of Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and European countries. Today the CIA station" sits on the phone "of Turkey, they control the whole process, and whoever is more convenient at the moment is forced to work. A free army is simple trained militants and gangs that joined them in Syria are just criminals. Naturally, some Syrian citizens joined this army. I would call the Syrian Free Army an artificially created, armed, large-scale gang group. Today the League of Arab States has become a mercenary The United States, its states became satellites of the United States, this concerned the problems of Libya, and the problems of Syria, and other countries where revolutions took place. The Arab League is a clear accomplice aggressive forces of the West, the United States, first of all. There is external armed intervention in the affairs of a sovereign state, which contradicts paragraph seven of Article II of the UN Charter. Both Russia and China are blocking only an open official armed invasion of Syria, but a secret war, secret armed intervention is underway, and officials in the West no longer hide this. Qatari special forces operate in Syria. The French soldiers acted under the auspices of the tourists, and when they were detained, the French Ministry of Defense demanded their return, since they are military personnel. All this is a clear external armed aggression, it is impossible to give another definition here. "-President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Colonel General Leonid Ivashov http://rus.ruvr.ru/2012_08_08/Leonid-Ivashov-Begstvo-jeks-premer-ministra-Sirii-
              novost-polozhitelnaja-video /
          2. sefirs
            sefirs 9 December 2012 17: 00
            +9
            it's time for us to "hide" angry

            1. Gluxar_
              Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 02: 32
              -5
              Quote: sefirs
              it's time for us to "hide"

              To whom and why? Maybe it’s time to develop a little for our own benefit, and not forever wrap up?
              1. Nickname
                Nickname 10 December 2012 10: 11
                +2
                To sting with what now? No aviation, no fleet.
                Rockets? - nonsense
          3. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 02: 30
            +7
            Quote: Bashkaus
            Here I am, a Russian man sitting, listening to it all and looking at his turnip on an ax and a gun hanging on the wall ... So, wake up cutting Russian women (looking at mother and wife), and children (turning their little son over the head) Well, who are they explained something that consultations on the conquest of Russia should be taken from France, Germany and Tataro-Mangol, and not star-strikers - they will teach them, then they themselves will not be glad

            If it's Russian, then it's better to grasp the head than the ax. The ax will not go anywhere, it is made of iron. But what in the head can turn into a mess. Better to raise children and raise two more than "minus" two "non-Russians" and go to jail. Some pathetic little group of something is pouring into the information space and makes millions soaked in hatred, moreover, without a reason. There are only a few such scum among the Muslims of Russia, various geeks adjoin them, who even without "jihad" would have become geeks and bandits. There is no difference for what to destroy them, for "jihad" or for robbing a passer-by. But you do not need to spend all your spiritual forces on confronting them, it is better to engage in creation and creation.
            No matter how strong the external enemies are, the main thing is that there are no traitors inside. Strengthen yourself and your families, and special services deal with such provocateurs quite successfully. It is important that when our people really break out, they were strong and numerous, and their clenched fists would be able to develop normally and would not receive any preparations for battle. Do not be distracted by provocation.
        2. Su24
          Su24 9 December 2012 12: 48
          -7
          And where does the information about the thousands of Saudi assaults come from? Where are they hiding somewhere?
          1. YARY
            YARY 9 December 2012 13: 17
            +4
            Egor
            Or read carefully or do not write anything, have you agreed?
            who were with them on "spiritual training"

            Subtext-citizens of the Russian Federation.
            1. Sergh
              Sergh 9 December 2012 16: 02
              +14
              Quote: Ardent
              The same Qatar and the Saudis at the moment have already sent more than two thousand who were

              Edrena-dig, Yury, where did you dig these videos, I watched them last year, which with the emir, about Syria are also outdated, including departure, summer July-August. About two thousand people sent to Kazan, they shouted it back in the spring. What are you balamutish people.
              Here are the Syrian news in Russian.

              http://www.youtube.com/user/SyriaSegodnia?feature=watch
              1. Cavas
                Cavas 9 December 2012 18: 29
                +5
                Quote: Sergh
                What are you balamutish people.

                I wanted to write the same thing, but I think the person will be offended, he will start to write again that he takes news from the Internet, but another "classified" resource! laughing
                Igor you forgot- "Syria bloody news: Bashar al-Assad killed"-and all the audience YOUR! laughing

                It seems that there is an info attack, moreover, as if by command, and this, you must admit, leads to not very good thoughts!
                Only what to attack us, we are not in Syria and even more so we will not believe the Al-Jazeera channel. .
                1. igor67
                  igor67 9 December 2012 18: 33
                  -8
                  Cavas,
                  Guys you can make fun of only Assad your leadership threw again. hi
                  1. Cavas
                    Cavas 9 December 2012 18: 41
                    +5
                    Quote: igor67
                    guys you can make fun of only Assad your leadership threw again

                    Are we telling him dad and mom?

                    A year ago they said that Syria was about to fall, and it stood for a year, thereby giving us a break. hi
                    1. igor67
                      igor67 9 December 2012 19: 06
                      -4
                      Cavas,
                      Yes, let Syria stand for itself. I am for an adequate understanding of the comments posted. I’m bloodthirsty. This is the Russian fleet comes and leaves after the fight. There is a base anchored and all of no flight-less tzon mattresses. This is whose leadership in the quiet and no way can deliver the turntables under contracts or again Igor67 is to blame for the productions here Hollywood does
                      1. Cavas
                        Cavas 9 December 2012 19: 16
                        +7
                        Quote: igor67
                        Igor67 is to blame for the productions here Hollywood does

                        Yes, no one blames you for being so close to your heart !? request
                        We all understand, we understand how difficult it is for you now, we understand that Nityanu is a patriot, but not the person you need.
                        The misfortunes of Israel also come from the word poverty and are also due to the incompetence of leaders. What is the need to hold such a man as Netanyahu as prime minister, every Israeli will soon have to ask himself. If this does not happen, then the country's current foreign policy problems will very soon turn into the domestic political problems of its citizens.

                        Don’t be offended, but why throw in disuity in such quantities? Why, for example, I don’t understand !? hi
                      2. GSH-18
                        GSH-18 9 December 2012 22: 53
                        +1
                        Quote: igor67
                        This is the Russian fleet coming and going after the fight. There is a base anchored and all of no flightless tzons of mattresses. It’s whose leadership in Tikhorya cannot deliver turntables under contracts or again Igor67 is to blame for Hollywood’s staging

                        But who in Syria needs your turntables when our operational squadron is there !? belay
                      3. Gluxar_
                        Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 02: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: igor67
                        Yes, let Syria stand for itself. I am for an adequate understanding of the comments posted. I’m bloodthirsty. This is the Russian fleet comes and leaves after the fight. There is a base anchored and all of no flight-less tzon mattresses. This is whose leadership in the quiet and no way can deliver the turntables under contracts or again Igor67 is to blame for the productions here Hollywood does

                        And why did you get that you did not put a turntable? Have you seen a lack of equipment from government forces? Or ammunition? Or were there hidden bombings somewhere?
                    2. Gluxar_
                      Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 02: 45
                      0
                      Quote: Cavas
                      A year ago they said that Syria was about to fall, and it stood for a year, thereby giving us a break.

                      So after all, with such a development of events, it will stand for another year. The last 4 months there was a "saturation" with militants, but the decisive battle did not work out in any way .... Now I will interrupt this "supply" of human goods, for another 4 months I will have to "saturate".
                  2. GSH-18
                    GSH-18 9 December 2012 22: 49
                    +2
                    Quote: igor67
                    Guys you can make fun of only Assad your leadership threw again.

                    Why suddenly such conclusions ?? Since the squadron was left opposite Syria? laughing Your logical series carries the brain! wassat laughing
                  3. Kaa
                    Kaa 9 December 2012 23: 24
                    +4
                    Quote: igor67
                    Guys you can make fun of only Assad your leadership threw again.

                    Respected igor67 , you can joke around as much as you like, but the US leadership threw the Israelis once again "under the Muslim skating rink." If Assad's government falls, Syria will be replaced by a cluster of enclaves controlled by "warlords" armed to the teeth with former Libyan weapons:
                    "" The United States is now conducting a clandestine operation to transfer weapons to Syrian rebels for the first time in order to intensify efforts to remove President Bashar al-Assad from power, "the newspaper notes. Sunday Times ... “Mortars, hand-held missile systems, anti-tank missiles will be directed by them through friendly Middle Eastern countries that are already supplying weapons to the opposition.” According to the newspaper, “the United States has already purchased some of the weapons from Libya from the arsenal created by Muammar Gaddafi, who was liquidated last year.” includes the Strela-2 portable anti-aircraft missile system, "the newspaper emphasizes. The Sunday Times points out that the Syrian opposition since last spring" has received, with visible consent from the United States, weapons from Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. " the United States itself joins "http://rus.ruvr.ru/2012_12_09/SMI-SSHA-pristupajut-k-sekretnim-postavkam-oruzhij

                    a-sirijskim-mjatezhnikam /.
                    When they reach their goals in Syria, Who can guarantee that the "Syrian opposition" will not organize a "no-fly zone" with the help of the Strela-2 air defense system, say, in the vicinity of Ben Gurion airport? The IDF will have to "negotiate" with them for a long time..
                  4. Gluxar_
                    Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 02: 44
                    +6
                    Quote: igor67
                    Guys you can make fun of only Assad your leadership threw again.

                    Assad in itself, well done. And the Russian leadership will pursue its goals. For example, the presence of a group of Russian ships in the conflict zone does not allow American hawks to realize their plan. But everything was ready, a huge mass of militants sent to the territory of Syria, concentrated in areas to attack the capital. Ammunition and ammunition delivered and distributed. It remains only to deliver a missile and bomb strike and clear the corridors, demoralize government forces and victory is in the hands ...
                    But here again the stubborn Russians, transmit some kind of intelligence, supply ammunition and air defense systems, set them up, do not give a normal beating / democratization ... as a result, about 40 thousand trained militants fall into the trap, they are systematically grind there. The loss is not great, of course, but money is a pity, and time is running out ...

                    And of course, they threw a manual, it eats children.
                2. Gluxar_
                  Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 02: 38
                  +2
                  Quote: Cavas
                  I wanted to write the same thing, but I think the person will be offended, he will start writing again that he takes news from the Internet, but another "secret" resource! Igor You forgot - "Bloody news of Syria: Bashar al-Assad is killed" - and all the audience is YOUR! One gets the impression that an info attack is underway, and as if on command, and this, you must agree, leads to not very good thoughts! But why attack us, we are not in Syria, and even more so we will not believe the Al-Jazeera channel. ...

                  Well man works. He was told he does. What blame him for it?

                  Another thing is that the situation around Syria is like in the film "Groundhog Day". There is a war of attrition. Nothing has changed since the May events, only a larger percentage of the country has been destroyed and more refugees, well, mountains of dead terrorists are also growing. But what is worth collecting another 20-30 thousand per quarter.

                  And as for the news itself, it is certainly good that the Russian authorities do not bend, oh how it infuriates the West.
          2. nycsson
            nycsson 9 December 2012 17: 52
            +3
            Quote: Su24
            And where does the information about the thousands of Saudi assaults come from? Where are they hiding somewhere?

            And you don’t understand this !!! fool
          3. igor67
            igor67 9 December 2012 17: 55
            -8
            Su24,
            maybe it's them. Syrian mercenaries or local?
            1. SenyaYa
              SenyaYa 9 December 2012 21: 58
              +4
              What is the sucker formation of bearded basmachi?
              1. Gluxar_
                Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 02: 56
                +1
                Quote: SenyaYA
                What is the sucker formation of bearded basmachi?

                This is the digital interent of the CIA. Must scare the Syrians.

                Although over Aleppo over the past 4 days they put about 1000 of such fighters. Well, when they get together, ammunition consumption is reduced. Near Daraya, now also surrounded by 17 thousand such fighters.
                Because the United States so fiercely began to cry over chemical weapons. Assad has a very great temptation to solve this problem with the help of 2 tons of sarin, from which after 2 weeks there will be no trace ...
            2. TRex
              TRex 10 December 2012 10: 32
              +2
              Without laughter - you will not look .. in the background dudes in the form of a growth target, some throughout the whole match on their outstretched arms hold machine guns and machine guns ... in short - plywood pranksters
              But seriously - either send troops to Syria or Kaput Assad ... It won’t last long.
          4. orfo
            orfo 9 December 2012 17: 56
            +2
            RT seemed to be fashionable to send students to Saud. Arabia for training, what could they bring from there besides the "in-depth" study of religion? Traveling a car with the symbols of a terrorist organization in Kazan and not only is this normal?
            1. Sergh
              Sergh 9 December 2012 18: 20
              +3
              Quote: igor67
              maybe it's them. Syrian mercenaries

              igor67, I repeat again, stop the crap from the children! Take a look five-ten times yourself, the average person will not understand, and the average professional will be just ridiculous, done on a multiplier with dressing twenty or thirty people, too lazy to count and deal with this video, but I’ll show my pros that there will be a complete obassaka, as with your videos with the capture of the air defense base. Where do you dig them out or do you mount them yourself at home? Show your Babe Fae, do not make me laugh and stop dull stuffing, including about Azerbaijan.
              1. igor67
                igor67 9 December 2012 18: 25
                -7
                Sergh,
                Quote: Sergh
                Show your Baba Fae, do not make me laugh.

                it’s not beautiful and rude! the videos are stupidly typed on YouTube. this is the time on the video where I don’t know Arabic mercenaries but the word suria is Syria in Russian. maybe this is a production where I got a bunch of clowns with weapons I don’t know
          5. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 02: 33
            +2
            Quote: Su24
            And where does the information about the thousands of Saudi assaults come from? Where are they hiding somewhere?

            The concept is conditional. We are talking about Sunni mercenaries, they just train in Saudi Arabia and with its money.
        3. djon3volta
          djon3volta 9 December 2012 12: 58
          +15
          100 million Russians will be killed, right? Russians will stand and wait, well, when will they kill us, how long can we wait? laughing
          1. TekhnarMAF
            TekhnarMAF 9 December 2012 13: 19
            +12
            Gentlemen, stop reading YouTube! Bashkaus- and I’ve got the DShK dug up, and my finger will not flinch on the descent if someone touches my family and my neighbors (and they are of different nationalities), and even more so the mythical Saudis (and who is this?)!
            1. YARY
              YARY 9 December 2012 13: 28
              +9
              St. Nicholas
              This is Saudi Arabia. And by no means mythical. Very real. Do you remember Chechnya? From 91 to this year? They did a lot of things there.
              1. Sergh
                Sergh 9 December 2012 13: 59
                +9
                Quote: Ardent
                They did a lot of things there.

                Well, that was the end of their adventures, by the way, no one returned home on vacation from Chechnya, who had time to get to the Britons, he dumped much earlier. Now the experience has been accumulated, the equipment is provided, the mountains of ammunition. And about cutting, it's like in a joke: "... again you are with a little foot on a machine gun ...".
                I think this emir, or how it is ..., has no idea about the consequences on his mug.
              2. TekhnarMAF
                TekhnarMAF 9 December 2012 15: 46
                +7
                Andrei Yes, I understand and know firsthand- I saw the shooting of children from the Children's Artillery and Marine Corps of the Pacific Fleet, in the first Chechen. There were guys at my place. At that time, we lost our fellow doctor from the Pacific Fleet Hospital. I’m not about the fact that they are not (the Saudis), but that you shouldn’t be afraid of them - we are on our land, and they are newcomers!
              3. alexng
                alexng 9 December 2012 15: 54
                +1
                Quote: Ardent
                This is Saudi Arabia. And by no means mythical. Extremely real.


                Yes, someone's mattresses decided to merge Saudi Arabia. Something their plans changed after the failure of the blackmail of Iran. So it is not known how it will turn around. It would not hurt Saudi Arabia and Qatar to know that the most dangerous thing for any country is to be a friend of the mattresses - they always throw their supposedly friends at the right time.
                1. GSH-18
                  GSH-18 9 December 2012 23: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: alexneg
                  It would not hurt Saudi Arabia and Qatar to know that the most dangerous thing for any country is to be a friend of the mattresses - they always throw their supposedly friends at the right time.

                  That's for sure. And I will add: In order to replace these "friends" with more reliable puppets! yes
              4. Nick
                Nick 9 December 2012 17: 33
                +2
                Quote: Ardent
                This is Saudi Arabia. And by no means mythical. Very real. Do you remember Chechnya? From 91 to this year? They did a lot of things there.

                The Saudis sponsored it all. Outraged, mostly local ...
                1. YARY
                  YARY 9 December 2012 18: 35
                  +1
                  Who pays that ......
                  And the customer is the glavnyuk-bandyuk.
                  1. GSH-18
                    GSH-18 9 December 2012 23: 08
                    0
                    Quote: Ardent
                    Who pays that ......
                    And the customer is the glavnyuk-bandyuk.

                    Yes. But this is not the case. Too quickly and simply under the bandit's loot there were so many "performers"! belay
                    1. YARY
                      YARY 9 December 2012 23: 22
                      +3
                      I like what has been done in Kazakhstan.
                      Sending a "spiritual" "study" abroad is a criminal offense!
                      And why do not we introduce it?
              5. Gluxar_
                Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 03: 04
                0
                Quote: Ardent
                This is Saudi Arabia. And by no means mythical. Very real. Do you remember Chechnya? From 91 to this year? They did a lot of things there.

                Well, compared to what happened throughout Russia in the 90s, not so much, and since 2003 it’s not even heard of Chechnya. No need to dramatize and play on the mood. Better do your family and work. it is now more important for the country.
            2. Cavas
              Cavas 9 December 2012 22: 31
              +3
              Quote: TehnarMAF
              Bashkaus- and I’ve got the DShK,

              Well RPK- I would have understood, but .... DShK -you were seriously preparing! laughing
              And what kind of oil do you water the garden? laughing
            3. not good
              not good 9 December 2012 22: 52
              -2
              DShK is not cool, uncle the old Cossack threatened to get Maxim hidden away by his grandfather from the nest egg, says the grandfather fired from him the red-bellied ones laughing
              1. Cavas
                Cavas 10 December 2012 00: 00
                +3
                Quote: Negoro
                DShK is not cool, uncle the old Cossack threatened to get hidden by his grandfather MAXIM from the stash

                Since when did the DShK begin to be compared with Maxim, and even in favor of the latter?
                1. WW3
                  WW3 10 December 2012 00: 51
                  0
                  Quote: Cavas
                  Since when did the DShK begin to be compared with Maxim, and even in favor of the latter?

                  1. Cavas
                    Cavas 10 December 2012 01: 00
                    +4
                    WW3,
                    I believe these guys more.


                    1. WW3
                      WW3 10 December 2012 01: 04
                      +4
                      Cavas, no one argues + but the video is cool ....
                      1. Cavas
                        Cavas 10 December 2012 01: 58
                        +2
                        Quote: WW3
                        Cavas, no one argues + but the video is cool ...

                        Here you also found Anka the machine gunner!))) wassat
                        Where is Chapai looking? laughing
                      2. WW3
                        WW3 10 December 2012 05: 21
                        +5
                        Quote: Cavas
                        Here you also found Anka the machine gunner!

                        These are better ...

                      3. ramzes1776
                        ramzes1776 13 December 2012 18: 59
                        +2
                        Such formidable aunts should be approached only from the rear drinks
          2. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 03: 02
            0
            Quote: djon3volta
            100 million Russians will be killed, right? Russians will stand and wait, well, when will they kill us, how long can we wait?

            A lot of all sorts of apocalypses will be predicted for us here, few people take into account that Russians are more than 80% percent. and few people understand that the Russian Muslims themselves will smear all this Salafi shobla on the walls. Among Muslims, there are no more than 2% supporters of Salafism, and this happened in the dashing 90s when it was really hungry and not from a good life went to "humanitarian" training. This policy has long been stopped. Enemies need to be sought not among Muslims, they get along well with us and their spiritual leaders perfectly understand that it is not worth waking up the "Russian dashing", therefore they themselves will deal with the problem of the Salafis and the "Red Macas". The latter is also actively promoting itself and they are trying to give it the status of an all-Russian, and not individual incidents of groups of incompetent Caucasian youth.
        4. Green
          Green 9 December 2012 14: 27
          +44
          Ardent, thank you very much for the video. I laughed. A monkey in a cap waving his hands like a chimpanzee and thrashing his tongue like a chimpanzee. And these obscurant underdeveloped degenerates seriously want to challenge the country and the people, the first to burst into space and tempered in Stalingrad. They skidded and fled from the Israelis, at a time when Israel was not yet at the zenith of its military power, and they want to slaughter Russian women and go to war against a people much more fierce and ruthless than the Israelis. When they fall into the clutches of brutalized Russians (and Russians very quickly become wild when someone cuts their children), then these monkeys will be asked back, and will remember the "atrocities of the Zionists" as the best years of their lives.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 9 December 2012 15: 27
            +7
            Yarom also wanted to answer, but you expressed my idea more clearly and capaciously!)
            1. Green
              Green 9 December 2012 15: 33
              +12
              The quality of human material is incomparable. They were baked at the end there, they do not even imagine all the horrors and that fierce grin with which these "southern macaques" will have to face in the event of a war with the Russians. When Qatar threatens Russians with genocide, they are simply taken aback.
              1. OSTAP BENDER
                OSTAP BENDER 9 December 2012 18: 44
                -1
                Quote: Verde
                The quality of human material is incomparable. They were baked at the end there, they do not even imagine all the horrors and that fierce grin with which these "southern macaques" will have to face in the event of a war with the Russians. When Qatar threatens Russians with genocide, they are simply taken aback.

                Respected! Judging by your writings, you are a simple Jewish provocateur! Talk here about "Muslim macaques", identify the Russian people with the beast, and unobtrusively advertise Israel! What's this, the Mossad has a new tactic ?! Well, well, take off the mask You got it right here !!!! And the phrase about human material is a masterpiece! You are our Ziono-fascist !!!!
                1. Green
                  Green 9 December 2012 19: 09
                  0
                  Human material is a term from sociodynamics, it includes not only and not so much a genetic component (and does not at all express usefulness or inferiority in the fascist sense), but also includes factors such as education, upbringing, and a cultural component. I do not wear any masks, I am not indifferent to Israel, and apparently this is your fault. And by this, I will quote my compatriot: "Pioneers, go to f * ny!"
                  PS if you want to call me provocateurs, then Jewish, for the atheist excuse me, the costs of Soviet education.
                  1. Fox 070
                    Fox 070 9 December 2012 19: 17
                    +3
                    Quote: Verde
                    Human material is a term from sociodynamics that includes not only and not so much the genetic component (and does not at all express full value or inferiority in the fascist sense), but also includes factors such as education, upbringing, and the cultural component.

                    Quote: Verde
                    : "Pioneers, go to f * poo!"

                    Very educated, educated and cultural, and most importantly, very Zionist. Apparently being cultured and educated is not about you. hi bully
              2. GSH-18
                GSH-18 9 December 2012 23: 20
                0
                Quote: Verde
                They were baked at the end there, they do not even imagine all the horrors and that fierce grin with which these "southern macaques" will have to face in the event of a war with the Russians

                You have not correctly identified the species laughing This is not a macaque. A mumbled barking sabaccion that works off an abandoned bone.
              3. 10 December 2012 02: 00
                +1
                Quote: Verde
                The quality of human material is incomparable. They were baked at the end there, they do not even imagine all the horrors and that fierce grin with which these "southern macaques" will have to face in the event of a war with the Russians. When Qatar threatens Russians with genocide, they are simply taken aback.

                These macaques, only out of a sense of self-preservation, need to familiarize themselves with the memories of German soldiers during the Second World War:

                «I have never seen anyone meaner than these Russians. Real chain dogs! You never know what to expect from them. And where do they just come from tanks and everything else ?!»

                Tanker of the 12th Panzer Division Hans Becker: "On the Eastern Front, I met people who can be called a special race. Already the first attack turned into a battle not for life, but for death».

                «During the attack, we stumbled upon a light Russian T-26 tank, we immediately clicked it directly from the 37-graph paper. When we began to approach, a Russian leaned out of the hatch of the tower to the waist and opened fire on us with a pistol. It soon became clear that he was without legs, they were torn off when the tank was hit. And despite this, he fired at us with a pistol!»

                «We almost did not take prisoners, because the Russians always fought to the last soldier. They did not give up. Their hardening cannot be compared with ours ...»

                «I did not expect anything like this, - the commander of the battalion, Major Neuhof, admitted to his battalion doctor. - It’s pure suicide to attack the forces of the battalion with five fighters».

                «You just won’t believe this until you see it with your own eyes. Red Army soldiers, even burning alive, continued to shoot from the blazing houses».

                Yes, about Russia in general:
                «Russia, only bad news comes from here, and we still don't know anything about you. Meanwhile, you absorb us, dissolving in your inhospitable viscous open spaces»

                Who cares: http://svpressa.ru/society/article/56325/
          2. OSTAP BENDER
            OSTAP BENDER 9 December 2012 18: 16
            +2
            Quote: Verde
            They darted and fled from the Israelis, at a time when Israel was not yet at the zenith of its military power, and they want to slaughter Russian women and go to war on a people that are more fierce and merciless than the Israelis. When they fall into the clutches of the brutal Russians

            Respected! What are you, the Russian people expose such a beast! Compare it with the Israelites! The Russian people have never been a beast, and they have never been fierce! The Russian people are a warrior people, they are merciful to their defeated enemies! It has always been so, and it always will be! He forgives, forgives even those fierce, reckless bandits who cut their heads to captive soldiers! And you can’t underestimate the enemy, so for the future! And yet, you Zionist-fascist, just call the Arabs degenerates and monkeys in a cap! I advise you: do not underestimate them, they are a competent, cold-blooded and merciless enemy!
            1. Green
              Green 9 December 2012 18: 47
              +8
              The Russian people may be merciful to the defeated enemies, but the whole history of the Russian people proves that in the struggle and desperate resistance there is no more merciless and terrible enemy than the Russians. Read the memories of the French who retreated from Moscow, throwing loot carts, which were overtaken by Cossack detachments, leaf through the history of the Second World War, when even children blew themselves up with grenades along with the Nazis, and partisan detachments burned and destroyed not only fascists, but also collaborators, and whole villages ... The degenerate monkey in the video behaves like a monkey, looks like a monkey, and in general is a monkey without a doubt. The Arabs are, of course, a very competent enemy. True, half of them cannot read and write, and they are still in primitive religious thinking, and they are so cold-blooded, self-control and self-control, boiling water, reviewing footage from Tahrir. By the way, I am not a fascist, stating the fact of the deepest intellectual decline of the Arab civilization in the 21st century, I do not question their outstanding achievements in mathematics, medicine, philosophy and astronomy in the 12-14th centuries, but today, alas, this tribe is in the deepest cultural decline ... Of all your epithets to the Arabs, I agree only with the last: "ruthlessness." To expel their women onto the rooftops and close their missile positions with them, carry their children under the bombs, and then wave the corpses in front of the BBC lenses, place launchers on the roofs of maternity hospitals, yes, you need an incredible ruthlessness, but in a head-on collision, having a tenfold numerical advantage, they prefer legs that have been demonstrated more than once in clashes with Israel.
              1. OSTAP BENDER
                OSTAP BENDER 9 December 2012 18: 55
                +1
                [quote = Verde] Read the memories of the French who retreated from Moscow, throwing the loot's carts that were overtaken by Cossack units, leaf through the history of the Second World War, when even children blew themselves up with grenades along with the Nazis!

                This is called SELF-DONATION !!!! Yes, self-sacrifice in the name of VICTORY !!!! And none of them called the enemy, and then the Germans and the French macaques !!!! It was the Nazis who called the Slavs subhuman - you judging from their cohort !!!!!
                1. Green
                  Green 9 December 2012 19: 17
                  +1
                  Wipe your eyes:
                  1. OSTAP BENDER
                    OSTAP BENDER 9 December 2012 19: 27
                    -3
                    Quote: Verde
                    Wipe your eyes:

                    Respected! Are you trying to connect the Jewish cartoonists with the self-sacrifice of the Russian people !!!! My dear friend, these are completely different things !!!!!
                    1. GSH-18
                      GSH-18 9 December 2012 23: 37
                      0
                      Quote: OSTAP BENDER
                      Respected! Are you trying to connect the Jewish cartoonists with the self-sacrifice of the Russian people !!!!

                      What is self-sacrifice? What are you talking about ?? We then defended ourselves, our loved ones, and our homeland! But who defended your ancestors, the question ..
                      1. OSTAP BENDER
                        OSTAP BENDER 10 December 2012 00: 41
                        +4
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        What is self-sacrifice? What are you talking about ?? We then defended ourselves, our loved ones, and our homeland! But who defended your ancestors, the question ..


                        You are re-posting my post! This is so in Jewish! I bring to your attention, my grandfather went through the whole war! And his brother died in Poland having the Star of the Hero of the USSR !!!
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        We defended ourselves then

                        So the question is: Who are we and where did they defend?
                    2. saturn.mmm
                      saturn.mmm 13 December 2012 20: 46
                      0
                      Quote: OSTAP BENDER
                      Respected! Are you trying to connect Jewish cartoonists

                      Kukryniksy is a creative team of Soviet graphic artists and painters, which included full members of the Academy of Arts of the USSR, people's artists of the USSR (1958), Heroes of Socialist Labor Mikhail Kupriyanov (1903-1991), Porfiry Krylov (1902-1990) and Nikolai Sokolov (1903— 2000).
                      Well, very disguised Jewish cartoonists.
                2. GSH-18
                  GSH-18 9 December 2012 23: 32
                  0
                  Quote: OSTAP BENDER
                  This is called SELF-DONATION !!!! Yes, self-sacrifice in the name of VICTORY !!!! And none of them called the enemy, and then the Germans and the French macaques !!!! It was the Nazis who called the Slavs subhuman - you judging from their cohort !!!!!

                  You are cunning here dear. In areas occupied by the Nazis, where there were numerous partisan detachments, the Germans were called beasts, etc. Because of their punitive actions, from which the simple population suffered greatly!
              2. GSH-18
                GSH-18 9 December 2012 23: 28
                -4
                Quote: Verde
                but in a head-on collision, having a tenfold numerical advantage, they prefer to make legs, which was demonstrated more than once in clashes with Israel

                Yeah, invincible warriors from Podpishkovo laughing
          3. Fox 070
            Fox 070 9 December 2012 19: 07
            +4
            Quote: Verde
            at a time when Israel was not at the zenith of its military power,

            At the zenith of what, excuse me? Military power? Eco you bent! The entire "military might" of Israel is based on the comprehensive support of the United States and, in part, the European Union. Without this "prop", Israel's "military power" is nothing more than a myth. A small state with big claims to regional, and in the long term, to world domination, would have "blown away" long ago. And if we consider that the United States is slowly "gluing its flippers", then Israel does not have much to puff up.
            Quote: Verde
            brutalized Russians (and Russians very quickly become wild when someone cuts their children)

            Some strange thoughts you may have, you might say, hallucinations, apparently inspired by the very thing depicted on your profile picture. Something I do not recall the atrocities during the Great Patriotic War, during the period when it resembled the territory of Germany, the Baltic states, Ruiniya, Bulgaria, although all these countries had their own punitive SS units operating on the territory of the USSR.
            In what narcotic dreams did you see the "brutal Russian"?
            Quote: Verde
            will remember the "Zionist atrocities" as the best years of their lives.

            You shouldn't have put the phrase Zionists atrocities in quotation marks. These are not just atrocities, but a targeted genocide against the people of Palestine. And pray your MOSHIACH, that he would give you quick legs, so that you can get away from the "promised land" in time, when the Palestinians begin to remind you of these "best years". hi
            1. OSTAP BENDER
              OSTAP BENDER 9 December 2012 19: 12
              +2
              Quote: Fox 070
              And pray your MOSHIACH, that he would give you quick legs, so that you can get away from the "promised land" in time, when the Palestinians begin to remind you of these "best years".

              Felix! As always, you are on point! Apparently, the "Jewish special forces" have a replenishment! lol
              1. Fox 070
                Fox 070 9 December 2012 19: 37
                +6
                Quote: OSTAP BENDER
                the "Jewish special forces" replenishment!

                You're right buddy! "Spetsnaz" is in a hurry to help its injured fellow tribesmen !!! laughing
              2. Gluxar_
                Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 03: 31
                +2
                Quote: Fox 070
                You have some strange thoughts, one might say, hallucinations, apparently inspired by the very thing that is depicted on your avatar. Something I don’t remember the atrocities during the Great Patriotic War, during the period when it was like on the territory of Germany, the Baltic states, Ruiynia, Bulgaria, although all these countries had their own punitive SS units operating on the territory of the USSR. In what narcotic dreams did you see the "brutal Russian"?

                Why are you hanging on to these words. The man thought that such a comparison against the background of the promise of some Arab "to cut the Russians" would be in demand among the public. He miscalculated and is simply ashamed to admit his kink. Brutalized Russian is a normal concept, but it does not mean "turning into an animal." The Russian man is great and merciless, but he is merciless towards enemies and non-humans. What does this mean in practice? And the fact that the Russians are a very ancient people, and therefore hasty in some decisions. The Russian people are like a parent for many others, brotherly who have been under its protection for centuries. And when such "careless" children are forgotten and begin to prove their maturity by censuring the foundations of their parents, then the Russian is very patient. Because he understands that a historical perspective is needed to understand the actions, he endures and waits for the "enlightenment" of the apostates. This is Russian patience and mercy, but if the Russian sees that his child is in pain and will not see the light. The way it is with Gogol ... "I have pleased you, and I will kill you." What does this mean in practice? And the fact that when the Russians run out of patience, they can no longer be deceived and led astray from the path of righteous anger. When Russians are brought to such a state, the initiator simply disappears as a subject of world history. Perhaps the time is coming for the Arabs to learn this truth, they are playing with radicalism.

                However, one should not forget one more important truth. There is one more people on our planet who are just as "fruitful" in the historical process. But he takes a different path, the path of sabotage, he himself remains on the sidelines. And this time in all "holy wars" he is the main instigator, but personally we direct our anger in the other direction. Thus, playing by his rules. We need to start thinking with our own head.
                1. 11 December 2012 03: 32
                  -1
                  Quote: Gluxar_
                  However, one should not forget one more important truth. There is one more people on our planet who are just as "fruitful" in the historical process. But he takes a different path, the path of sabotage, he himself remains on the sidelines. And this time in all "holy wars" he is the main instigator, but personally we direct our anger in the other direction. Thus, playing by his rules. We need to start thinking with our own head

                  The more you learn historical facts, the stronger is the belief that a country is meaner than England does not exist.
                  No wonder they say: "Devils in hell, and Britain on earth."
            2. Green
              Green 9 December 2012 19: 31
              -3
              It was still not enough for the Red Army to act as an SS; I won’t even answer for the rest of the stupidity. The genocide is good, that with this genocide, the Arab population grew and multiplied as much as 5 times. I don’t feed the trolls, especially the evil anti-Semitic ones, preferring a good scuffle to the virtual liquid squad. You amused me, thank you, I went to score what’s on the profile picture, because the weekend is coming to an end, there is a busy week ahead, and there is no desire to waste time on you, my dear anti-Semites. Good luck and see you soon. Pioneers, go to f * ck!
              1. OSTAP BENDER
                OSTAP BENDER 9 December 2012 19: 38
                +1
                Quote: Verde
                You amused me, thank you, I went to score what’s on the profile picture, because the weekend is coming to an end, there is a busy week ahead, and there is no desire to waste time on you, my dear anti-Semites. Good luck and see you soon. Pioneers, go to f * ck!

                Judging by the number of your komentov, you are a Jew, everything else is a consequence of your Jew !!!! When the Zionist runs out of arguments, he is rude and calls everyone "anti-simites", proven for the millionth time, by your example !!!!
                1. saturn.mmm
                  saturn.mmm 13 December 2012 20: 57
                  -1
                  Quote: OSTAP BENDER
                  Judging by the number of your comments, you lit a liquid srach,

                  Actually, the video was inserted by Yary.
              2. Fox 070
                Fox 070 9 December 2012 19: 50
                +5
                Quote: Verde
                preferring a good scuffle to a virtual liquid sack.

                Wow !!! It’s only a pity that you can’t reach!
                Quote: Verde
                You amused me, thank you, I went to score what’s on the avatar,

                That's it, go get it. Smelly addict ...
                Quote: Verde
                my dear anti-Semites.

                Pioneers, go to f * ck!

                When you (the Jews) begin to tear all over the world, we (Russians) will be truly on your way. Will still kiss us on the lower back. bully
                So have fun ... bye. hi
                1. OSTAP BENDER
                  OSTAP BENDER 9 December 2012 20: 09
                  +4
                  Quote: Verde
                  went to score what’s on the avatar,

                  Felix! Stoned Zionist fascist is something !!!! lol
                  1. Fox 070
                    Fox 070 9 December 2012 20: 30
                    +6
                    Quote: OSTAP BENDER
                    Stoned Zionist Fascist

                    That’s all they can fight with. laughing
                    In a word - narcotics ...
            3. GSH-18
              GSH-18 9 December 2012 23: 40
              -2
              Why are you hooked then ?? The man wrote emotionally. And you pragmatically suck every phrase! Is it really not clear what he meant ??! belay
            4. Gluxar_
              Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 03: 31
              0
              Quote: Fox 070
              At the zenith of what, excuse me? Military power? Eco you bent! The entire "military might" of Israel is based on the comprehensive support of the United States and, in part, the European Union. Without this "prop", Israel's "military power" is nothing more than a myth. A small state with big claims to regional, and in the long term, to world domination, would have "blown away" long ago. And if we consider that the United States is slowly "gluing its flippers", then Israel does not have much to puff up.

              What kind of analytics has gone here? the news about the Russian fleet and left already in the wilds. It clearly shows that the topic of the war in Syria is not covered much on this site, although the demand for such materials is very high.

              As for Israel. Then no one ever considered it and does not consider it as an exclusively territorial association. And all the power of Israel is based on the powerful Zionist lobby. Nobody denies this and everyone understands this. Izrpil itself is a Zionist military base from around the world in a region that is key to the 20th century.
              Today the situation is changing dramatically, priority is shifting to the Asia-Pacific region. Proceeding from this, it is not difficult to assume that Israel is really going through the last decades of its existence. Moreover, his military power is more of a raspiarin than something it is. The fact is that he will not be able to use everything that he has, even if absolutely necessary, otherwise he will endanger all Jews around the world. Nowhere will they be at ease if he uses WMD.
            5. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 13 December 2012 20: 52
              0
              Quote: Fox 070
              genocide against the people of Palestine

              Do you think these are our poor poor unfortunate Palestinians?
              Look, they will be standing next to some new Khatab tomorrow.
              Humanists were found.
          4. GSH-18
            GSH-18 9 December 2012 23: 12
            0
            Quote: Verde
            When they fall into the clutches of brutalized Russians (and the Russians very quickly become angry when someone cuts their children), then these monkeys will be asked back, and will remember the "atrocities of the Zionists" as the best years of their lives.

            Really smiled laughing Short and clear. With a very high probability! +++++++
            1. OSTAP BENDER
              OSTAP BENDER 10 December 2012 00: 37
              +4
              Quote: GSH-18
              Realistically smiled. Short and clear. With a very high probability! +++++++


              What smiled at you? What the Russians call the beasts? Purely Jewish approach, all Russian animals, wild, etc. etc.!!!!!!! Yes, you are from the same kagala !!!!
              1. Gluxar_
                Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 03: 34
                +1
                Quote: OSTAP BENDER
                What smiled at you? What the Russians call the beasts? Purely Jewish approach, all Russian animals, wild, etc. etc.!!!!!!! Yes, you are from the same kagala !!!!

                Well, you really are going too far. To my shame, I admit that I did not read all his comments. I do not like to read any nonsense, but from what I turned my attention to such an open text I did not see.
                1. Fox 070
                  Fox 070 10 December 2012 10: 11
                  +4
                  Quote: Gluxar_
                  but from what I turned my attention to such an open text I did not see.

                  Colleague, hello! Do not think of it as moralizing, but let me give you one piece of advice - in the case of the Jews, read between the lines. In recent days, their manner of communication has changed dramatically on the site. THEY are no longer trying to oppose themselves to the Russians, but are beginning to prepare the public for the idea that the Jews are the Russians' closest allies (as this role was once prepared for the Americans). Those. AGAIN anyone will pay for their crimes in the Middle East, but not themselves. Do you like this role? I don’t! I am ready to die for my land, and my children will stand next to me (!), But give their lives for the sake of a handful of "God's chosen" - thank you, this rabble is not worth it. This tipok (like some others here on the site), having served in the IDF, rushed from his historical homeland back to Russia, away from hostilities and now (as part of the team) is engaged in promoting Israel in all media, including on the internet, trying to find a new ally (read - a sacrificial ram) in the person of Russia.
                  Horseradish them bald, DIPPED ... Let them rake their der ... mo.
                  Do not try to see anything human in THEM; it simply is not there. Believe me, German fascism is a flower compared to Judaism and Zionism.
        5. подводник
          подводник 9 December 2012 14: 59
          +16
          For example, the United States and Israel when they want and then bomb terrorists, wherever they are, Sudan, Iraq and Libya (in the past).
          We know with 100% certainty that the Saudis and Qatar feed the militants in the Caucasus (and not only there, look at VERY).
          What prevents us from gouging these quasi-states in one day ???
          American military bases located on their territory?
          Fear of losing face in the Arab world?
          We are already openly spit in the face, look at the material that gave us YARY
          Remember how the Russian ambassador at the airport of Qatar wiped his feet and not only!
          What are we losing ????
          So we will definitely lose our face !!!
          Our foreign commanders do not dare to tear uniforms about Russian bayonets.... not I said
          1. Green
            Green 9 December 2012 15: 10
            0
            They didn’t just wipe their feet, they made a person with a disability! They beat him so that he has partial loss of vision.
          2. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 9 December 2012 15: 30
            +7
            Well, why, and the blown up militant leader in Qatar? And in Turkey, how many fighters were shot by unknown people?
            1. Gluxar_
              Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 03: 45
              0
              Quote: Sith Lord
              Well, why, and the blown up militant leader in Qatar? And in Turkey, how many fighters were shot by unknown people?

              I already wrote above, but I'm glad that at least someone else remembers this. Although it is not worth giving an occasion for discussion about the bloody KGB / FSB. And on this issue, short memory is only for us.
          3. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 03: 44
            +6
            Quote: submariner
            For example, the United States and Israel when they want and then bomb terrorists wherever they are — Sudan, Iraq and Libya (in the past). We know with 100% certainty that the Saudis and Qatar feed the militants in the Caucasus (and not only there -see with FAR) .What prevents us from gouging these quasi-states in one day ??? American military bases located on their territory? Fear of losing face in the Arab world? We are already spat openly in the face-look at the material that YARY gave us. Remember how about the Russian ambassador at the airport of Qatar wiped their feet and not only! What are we losing ???? So we are sure to lose our face !!! Our commanders do not dare to tear uniforms on Russian bayonets .... Not I said

            Not everywhere they can do what they want. Only in weak "non-states". They won't go to Russia, nor to China. And in India they will not be hooligan. The same Latin America is largely closed to them.

            As for Russia, when necessary, a cruise missile can fly into the territory of Turkey or a car can explode. Who in the know will understand what it is about.

            Only the UN can deal with quasi-states. This is the main position of Russia and a position that is really respected by everyone except those who are hindered by this state of affairs. Unlike Russia, which has not yet restored its "optimal shape", the same USA wants to create a precedent of world law. And then he, with his hands untied and his gangster nature, will frolic around the world, since there are more than enough weak states. Russikh does not like this state of affairs, the rule of law is in our interests.

            Moreover, you should not be led to such a provocation because of the words of a person in a canopy. There is a lot of honor to him. The path howls from its powerlessness. He had long wanted to defeat Syria and drive his gas to Europe, but he was not allowed to do this. That's angry now.

            So Russia does not change, and moreover does not lose face. Moreover, she shows the whole drugged world the face of law and reason. What else will play a role in the history of mankind. So there is less emotion and more reason.

            One more thing. Of course, I understand that the contingent on such resources is different, but what happens to the Russians? Many become so mundane and short-sighted that just longing for the people in the heart makes its way. Russian is always distinguished by intelligence and quick wit ... even a Russian talker.
            1. 11 December 2012 03: 24
              -1
              Gluxar_,
              Honestly, I’m just reading your messages. good
        6. Nachkar237
          Nachkar237 9 December 2012 15: 18
          +5
          Here, as it were, you can write a lot of comments on the video, I'm interested in something else - in Russia there are special forces which on the topic would be thrown into Saudaravia and "cut" quietly and not forcedly the languages ​​and throats of such broadcasters about the massacre of the Russian people? After all, it is necessary to somehow plug the mouths of these monsters (even forever in different ways - fortunately, the choice is huge), and then - "Russian deversants? - I have not heard!"
          1. Green
            Green 9 December 2012 15: 23
            +3
            Russian specialists cannot merge with the local population (as well as get fodder and support). But an unknown terrorist attack will undermine the terminal for liquefying gas in Qatar and will blow the floor of the peninsula. To paralyze gas production is also like two fingers.
            1. strannik595
              strannik595 9 December 2012 15: 55
              +3
              Russians have long endured ... and then the dream of Zhirinovsky and our oil magnates will come true .......... we will wash our boots in the Indian Ocean, and our oligarchs will lose their main competitor ..... ..I think it's just a sub-barking and nothing more ......... and breaking the ribs of the ambassador shows their essence as people ......... our German ambassador did not break the ribs after the robbery
        7. orfo
          orfo 9 December 2012 17: 53
          +2
          a very selective interview ... it seemed to me or an Arab-speaking Russian was cut to put it mildly?
        8. Civil
          Civil 9 December 2012 21: 53
          0
          So it is in Ufa !!


          what nonsense .... with the same success can be sent to Ryazan or Severobaykalsk.
        9. vagabo
          vagabo 11 December 2012 18: 45
          0
          The translation is accurate. He did not say anything about women and children.
          But on occasion, I have no doubt, such people will stop at nothing.
          That’s all, damn it, they forgot who is friend to someone, who is the enemy!
        10. ramzes1776
          ramzes1776 13 December 2012 19: 14
          +1
          Yes ... This goat, if he does not prove his line, will bend. So there’s nothing to communicate with these freaks. They only respect the politics of power.
      3. vvvvv
        vvvvv 10 December 2012 06: 09
        0
        I have already said many times, but every day I never cease to wonder what kind of creatures the Western elites are ultimately behind all this inhumanity ... Thousands and millions of people in general are slaughtered by terrorists' hands. Syria should have had a patriotic war against mercenaries for a long time, a state of emergency with the widespread blocking of any movement by self-defense units, etc., etc., general mobilization. There should be no human communication with Western countries, Turkey, etc. Personally, a new "iron curtain" would suit me and, if possible, wipe Qatar, the Saudis, and to a heap of the eilta of Turkey and the entire West from my face.
        When will all the BDLDs, ready to kill for money, die. For prevention, it is necessary to deliver a nuclear strike against Qatar and the Saudis, and let the Americans then decide whether to start a nuclear war ...
        What is such poor-quality voice acting for the plots ?!
  2. sergo0000
    sergo0000 9 December 2012 11: 44
    +4
    GREAT NEWS!
    DO NOT DROP Syria!
    1. Esso
      Esso 9 December 2012 12: 00
      +1
      It’s high time for Assad to use chemical weapons, let him use everything that is in the arsenal! But it cost us this Negro from the White House and Mrs. Clinton to say that if you don’t get out of it, the whole world will see how their fleet with marines will rot on the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea. We have another option, either we will blindly look at the bombing in Syria or scare the United States. Our anti-ship missiles will do their job!
      1. YARY
        YARY 9 December 2012 12: 17
        +3
        More for the big picture-Russian Syria
      2. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 04: 04
        0
        Quote: Esso
        It’s high time for Assad to use chemical weapons, let him use everything that is in the arsenal! But it cost us this Negro from the White House and Mrs. Clinton to say that if you don’t get out of it, the whole world will see how their fleet with marines will rot on the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea. We have another option, either we will blindly look at the bombing in Syria or scare the United States. Our anti-ship missiles will do their job!

        Thank God no one is bombing Syria. Bomb while the government troops, let it be.
        The use of chemical weapons is the end of Assad, although I myself understand how I want. But still, the world community will not be able to accept this. Even if you pretend that this is a spontaneous explosion of chemical weapons captured by the rebels. The very fact of losing control for such hazardous materials makes this power illegitimate and dangerous in the international sense, and Russia must explain Assad.
        Unfortunately, Russia is not yet in the form to dictate something, so you need to be consistent and careful. The situation is extremely beneficial for Russia in all directions, maybe except for the capture of a Ukrainian journalist. Iran takes the main role of donnar, and there is a gradual flow of Iraq into this camp. At the same time, the key solution to the question of Russia at the UN, Iran does not have the right of VETO there.
        What turns out. Russia does not spend resources on this war, it manages only diplomatic work. It discredits its main geopolitical opponents due to their obvious mistakes in supporting the terrorists, that is, beating on their own field. Grinds potential enemies, including averting the blow from himself. Moreover, every day of the war, no matter how cynical, but this is the death of our terrorists. Because pulling on our hand.
        At the same time, this state of affairs is forcing Iran to play a more active role in supplying and financing supplies, and in terms of direct military assistance, including by "advisers". Iran is forced to do this, since Assad's defeat is primarily a blow to Iran, and then to Russia. In turn, this further antagonizes Iran as opposed to the West, which heats up tensions in the Middle East and allows Brent oil to cost significantly more than WTI. Which again is beneficial to Russia.
        One cannot but admit that this state of affairs weakens Iran, which is also a potential geopolitical adversary of Russia. Moreover, it puts Iran in a certain dependence on Russia, which again gives room for bidding and negotiations. Which is again a plus.

        It is clear that there are criteria of humanism, but from a purely pragmatic position, Russia benefits from the status of the CWO in this conflict. Moreover, it is even more beneficial than a quick victory for Assad. Although if we assume that with the victory of Assad and the creation of the Iran-Iraq-Syria alliance, the Shiites will not calm down, but decide to get even with the Sunnis and a war of any intensity will begin in the Sunni states, then this is an even more "useful" scenario .... but this is just guesswork.
        So far, it is necessary, without direct intervention, not to allow NATO and the monarchies to bomb Syria, to help Iran bypass the sanctions, so that it, in turn, continues to help Assad. Helping Syria solve its economic problems, of course, not for free. And, of course, continue the information confrontation and show the "Western" inhabitants who are supported by their governments. RT channel is very productive in this.
      3. sergej.salnikov2012
        sergej.salnikov2012 10 December 2012 21: 30
        0
        I want to correct you, Dear, do not scare, but put in place
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 December 2012 12: 00
      +6
      Quote: sergo0000
      DO NOT DROP Syria!

      Hi Sergey, the amers have an aircraft carrier and 17 ships + a fleet of NATO sixes. Too little strength to sober up. Or maybe the evacuation will be request
      1. Cavas
        Cavas 9 December 2012 12: 16
        +11
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hi Sergey, the amers have an aircraft carrier and 17 ships + a fleet of NATO sixes. Too little strength to sober up. Or maybe the evacuation will be

        Sasha, hi.
        And here you are wrong, they know perfectly well what is behind the Russian fleet and not a single nit will move! Suddenly a submarine can show its "back" off the coast of America, or rather, it was shown all summer.
        Americans understand such hints, oh how they understand!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 December 2012 13: 20
          +3
          Quote: Cavas
          And here you are wrong, they know perfectly well what is behind the Russian fleet and not a single nit is moving!

          Hi Sergey, they won’t move against us, but against Syria in full. Our aircraft carrier will not sink either.
          1. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 04: 10
            -1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Hi Sergey, they won’t move against us, but against Syria in full. Our aircraft carrier will not sink either.

            This is called counterweight. If the United States decides to bomb Syria, then the main goal of the first stage is to destroy the air defense and radar station. But when targeting from Russian ships, the goal is unattainable. It is clear that technically everything can show "tense", but the presence of the S-400 in Tartus has already passed more than once. So this is a kind of "no-fly zone" for the air defense of Syria. This means that the tasks of the complete destruction of the US air defense will not be able to achieve, which means there will be heavy losses, which means they will not climb. They are not stupid and understand everything.
        2. TekhnarMAF
          TekhnarMAF 9 December 2012 13: 35
          +2
          And what is behind the Russian Navy? Strategic Missile Forces? Other than that, what?
          1. Kaa
            Kaa 9 December 2012 16: 19
            +9
            Quote: TehnarMAF
            And what is behind the Russian Navy? Strategic Missile Forces? Other than that, what?

            The worst Russian weapon: Chief Sanitary Doctor of Russia Gennady Onishchenko!
            "On the evening of December 7, the Russian Federal Veterinary Inspectorate announced the introduction of significant new obstacles to the import of meat from the United States. Some analysts see this move as an act of political retaliation for the adoption in the United States of a new law that provides for sanctions against Russian officials related to human rights violations. In a statement published on the official website of the Russian veterinary service on Friday, December 7, it is said that the new rules will take effect immediately and that during a "transitional period", the boundaries of which are not further specified, Russia will conduct its own laboratory tests on imported meat. On Friday, December 7, the USDA asked Russia to postpone the entry into force of this requirement, citing the fact that such rules could pose a significant obstacle to meat exports to Russia.
            Representatives of the US Department of Commerce are expected to travel to Moscow in the coming days to convince the Russian government to postpone the entry into force of new requirements. The United States annually exports beef and pork to Russia amounting to approximately 500 millionOriginal publication: Russia Announces Barriers on Imports of US Meat
            Posted: 08/12/2012
            : http://www.inosmi.ru/russia/20121209/203140928.html#ixzz2EYVq5spA
            "US Navy ordered from Raytheon 361 Tomahawk Block IV cruise missiles totaling $ 337,84 million The United States has already spent more than 1,9 thousand SLCMs and ALCMs in wars with fairly good results. Http://army-news.ru/2012/06/krylataya-raketa-tomagavk-i

            -eyo-nasledn
            iki /
            US military spent 1 billion and played a much broader role in Libya than claimed. The United States was quietly pursuing a “covert intervention” strategy, which, as the Obama administration hopes, will allow America to wage small wars and leave a barely noticeable mark.
            : http://www.km.ru/inosmi/2011/09/16/voina-v-livii/tanaya-voina-ameriki
            In total, with a slight stroke of the pen, the United States lost the opportunity to bang at least 500 Tomahawaks across Syria (so that they would not bark about technological superiority, remember that the Europeans faced a shortage of precision ammunition during the Libyan mayhem, which they had to "borrow" from the United States).
            While the sanitary doctors are working, the guns are resting ... you need to earn money for rockets, but here such losses ... bully
            1. brutal true
              brutal true 9 December 2012 18: 24
              +5
              Quote: Kaa
              The worst Russian weapon: Chief Sanitary Doctor of Russia Gennady Onishchenko!

              And against Europe there is another effective weapon - Gazprom. lol bully
              1. Kaa
                Kaa 9 December 2012 19: 19
                +1
                Quote: brutal true
                effective weapon - Gazprom.

                "What if will not take start to get excited - turn off the gas! " wassat
            2. sergej.salnikov2012
              sergej.salnikov2012 10 December 2012 21: 36
              0
              I agree that Gennady Onishchenko is worse than nuclear bombs
          2. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 9 December 2012 21: 36
            +3
            Are you a little strategic missile forces? we can block Europe’s oil, we can arrange coercion for the Arab countries to peace. Corridor through the Caspian to Iran is not a problem. The Iranians will not only open the corridor, but they will also kindly offer their airdromes for additional corrections, and then they dispute with an honorary escort to the missile launch area, and there are already air defense problems for the Qatar and its owner
          3. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 04: 12
            0
            Quote: TehnarMAF
            And what is behind the Russian Navy? Strategic Missile Forces? Other than that, what?

            Does it light and warm on our planet? The sun ? And nothing but him? The aggregate specific firepower behind the Russian fleet can burn our entire planet many times over. This is more than a valid argument, even for Satan.
      2. sergo0000
        sergo0000 9 December 2012 12: 17
        +7
        Alexander Romanov,
        Greetings, Sasha! drinks I am in the know about AUG But the more significant and fearless is our Assad friendship step marked! Now let's see who has stronger nerves!
        I do not think that amers decide on a direct intervention in our presence!
        After all, you yourself understand, otherwise war.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 December 2012 13: 24
          +1
          Quote: sergo0000
          After all, you yourself understand, otherwise war.

          It is she who is needed by the Amers, the jackals cannot do without her. They will behave arrogantly and will not retreat, well, then who will.
          1. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 04: 16
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            It is she who is needed by the Amers, the jackals cannot do without her. They will behave arrogantly and will not retreat, well, then who will.

            This has been discussed more than once. Americans need a war, but not for them to fight. They will not pull a real war, they will fall apart quickly. they need Russia to fight with China, and that in turn with the Middle East, and these are rustling against Russia and Africa, the Europeans are pulling themselves into their old colonies ... and they are sitting at home and selling weapons to everyone. You understand that any war to the state participating in it brings only losses. But arms manufacturers are always in the black, but they are not people, they are traders.
      3. mda
        mda 9 December 2012 12: 27
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hi Sergey, the amers have an aircraft carrier and 17 ships + a fleet of NATO sixes.

        So what? If NATO dares to attack Syria and at the same time attack Russian ships, that is, it will be an attack on the Russian Federation.
      4. Ascetic
        Ascetic 9 December 2012 13: 21
        +14
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hi Sergey, the amers have an aircraft carrier and 17 ships + a fleet of NATO sixes. Too little strength to sober up. Or maybe the evacuation will be


        Enough to sober up, considering a couple of at least Sharks under water.
        flagship of the Black Sea Fleet missile cruiser Moscow, patrol ship A sharp, large sea tanker Ivan Bubnov and sea tug MB-304 remain in the Aegean Sea in front of the pouring zone “until special instructions from the General Staff”
        US media prepare public opinion before NATO invasion of Syria
        panic and hysteria escalated around the use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people provide a good basis for preparing the US for an imminent invasion. 10 years ago, the Bush administration confidently presented false evidence to invade Iraq. This led to a civil war that claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. The Americans referred to fictional intelligence about the chemical weapons of Saddam Hussein, which actually was not
        The Pentagon said that it will take another 75 thousand military in order to neutralize the Syrian weapons of mass destruction.
        And this just suggests the preparation of a direct invasion.



        And some rhetoric
        will have to answer
        straight banduks on the arrow, although why should the gangster state be surprised gangster rhetoric. AND bandits are only afraid of power
        1. djon3volta
          djon3volta 9 December 2012 13: 33
          +1
          I advise you to watch the film "do not take it alive"
          In the Green Zone of occupied Iraq, a territory controlled by the United States Army, CIA agents vainly search for traces of weapons of mass destruction. The bias of the investigation becomes apparent to Officer Roy Miller, who tried to publicize the results. But how far can the generals go who decide to restore order in an unstable region at all costs?
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 9 December 2012 13: 52
          +11
          GRKR MOSCOW
          Ship armament

          Anti-ship missile system
          equipped with 16 launchers (4 twin launchers on each side) for the Vulcan anti-ship missile system. Today, the missile of this complex is the most powerful of all ship-based anti-ship missiles in the world! Long flight range, simultaneous salvo, powerful warhead and the ability to operate missiles "in a flock" are not at all a gift for the AUG, even with all their cover
          more about the complex

          Anti-aircraft missile systems
          these are S-300M Fort long-range air defense systems (64 missiles ammunition) and 2 Osa-MA short-range air defense systems (48 rockets ammunition).
          S-300 Fort
          64 high-precision missiles capable of reaching any aircraft or anti-ship missile at a distance of several tens of kilometers - a reliable "anti-aircraft umbrella" not only for the cruiser itself, but also for other ships in the order.
          more here
          Osa MA
          Auxiliary air defense system of the "last line" of defense against anti-ship missiles, aircraft, helicopters, and unmanned aerial vehicles.
          more

          Ship Artillery
          equipped with seven artillery pieces of two calibers: the main caliber (1 double-barreled gun mount caliber 130mm) and small-caliber gun mounts (6 six-barrel gun mounts caliber 30mm)
          AK-130
          Today is the most powerful of all gun mounts, used on warships of all fleets of the world. The double-barreled design, 130-mm caliber and high rate of fire allow this monster to release several tons (!!!) of shells per minute
          more here
          AK-630M
          An auxiliary caliber of a cruiser designed to create a "last line" of defense against anti-ship missiles, aircraft, helicopters, and small ships.
          more here
          anti-submarine weapons: 2x5 533-mm torpedo tubes, 2x12 RBU-6000 jet bombs;
          - aircraft weapons: 1 Ka-27 helicopter

          So homosexuals make a rustle

          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 9 December 2012 13: 59
            +1
            The absence of destroyers and BOD suggests the presence of a multipurpose submarine

          2. TRex
            TRex 10 December 2012 11: 25
            +2
            ... the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, the missile cruiser Moscow, the watchful ship Sharp, large sea tanker Ivan Bubnov and the sea tug MB-304 ....

            Ascetic! Are you going to confront the 6 fleet with this? Drown in half an hour, if that ... No strength, no money, no desire.
            Apparently - in Turkey, Syria was leaked, like Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya ... as a military base in Cuba and Kamran ...
            We do not sit in the Kremlin traitors?
        3. SSR
          SSR 9 December 2012 15: 30
          +6
          We are returning officers who were the color of military science - Shoigu

          Read further: Defense Ministry will return the most competent officers dismissed under Serdyukov | RIA News

          They would have posted this news ....
          Personally, I breathed a sigh of relief ....
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 9 December 2012 17: 07
            +4
            [quote = SSR] They would have posted this news ....
            Personally, I gently sighed with relief. [/ Quote]

            Or this one. also warms the soul ..
            Russia continues to develop new weapons systems

            [quote] [quote] “I would like to assure everyone that what I said that we developed new weapons systems:“ Mace ”,“ Yars ”,“ Topol-M ”- this does not mean that we do not work over the following. And there will be liquid ones. There should be different options ", - [/ quote]

            Head of the Presidential Administration Sergei Ivanov
        4. polly
          polly 9 December 2012 17: 21
          0
          Not lips - but chicken tail! lol
      5. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 9 December 2012 13: 48
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        amers have an aircraft carrier there


        Those. "Dwight D. Eisenhower" did not go home after serving in the Persian Gulf, as announced, but was stuck in Syria? On December 1, he passed the Suez Canal, did not hear anything more about him ...

        Tell me pliz, Alexander, if there is any kind of infa.
        Thanks in advance.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 December 2012 13: 56
          +5
          Quote: Aleks tv
          Tell me pliz, Alexander, if there is any kind of infa

          At the head of the US Naval Strategic Group, the Dwight Eisenhower attack multipurpose nuclear aircraft carrier arrived in the eastern Mediterranean. It is currently in close proximity to the coast of Syria.
          Last Saturday, the aircraft carrier passed the Suez Canal and entered the Mediterranean Sea, where it was overtaken by a powerful storm. On Wednesday night, the Dwight Eisenhower approached the Syrian territorial waters.
          According to available information, there are 70 fighter-bombers on board the aircraft carrier, the total number of sailors, pilots and marines on board reaches 8 thousand. Dwight Eisenhower has joined the Iwo Jima landing helicopter carrier, which has been off the coast of Syria for almost two weeks.
          Since the arrival of the aircraft carrier, the naval strategic group deployed in the eastern Mediterranean now has 17 ships, which also includes a cruiser with cruise missiles on board, ten destroyers and frigates. Four ships are armed with Aegis multifunctional missile defense systems
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 9 December 2012 14: 16
            +4
            ... "On Wednesday night," Dwight Eisenhower "approached the Syrian territorial waters." ...

            Those. "Eisenhower" changed his mind about going home and "accidentally" decided to fish off the coast of Syria together with the landing helicopter carrier "Iwo Jima", otherwise, you have seen, the latter is bored alone in the Mediterranean Sea ... REDISKI.

            Clear, thanks for the info, Alexander.

            The Moscow air defense umbrella with the S-300 is now very important for Syria, even more important than the main weapon of the cruiser. Just as a demonstration of it. The correct decision is that "Moscow" was left there for now.
            Good luck to the sailors.
          2. Green
            Green 9 December 2012 14: 48
            +3
            It seems that the White House is struggling to incite Israel to a disarming strike against Syria (so to speak, to work out the status of an unsinkable US aircraft carrier in the BV). I don’t know what the US should promise to Israel that Israel would take this step, which obviously contradicts its interests. But in the Israeli press, the discussion of the possibility of such a strike (the notorious chemical weapon) is intensifying. In principle, Israel has enough forces and means to sweep away the Air Force and Air Defense of Syria with one blow, but for less than "the head of Ahmadinijad", Bibi will not go for such an adventure, because after that the Syrian border will become the most restless for a long time, and " domes "will have to cover the entire north, and make an electronic border, as with the Gaza Strip. In my opinion, the White House is kicking Israel into this burning bathhouse, while the Jews are still resisting with their feet and hands.
            1. igor67
              igor67 9 December 2012 15: 05
              -2
              Green,
              here it is the border. The Syrian city I do not know the name Where exactly the dividing strip is also on the question. If Bibi succumbs to the regular game will be ....... soldier
              1. Green
                Green 9 December 2012 15: 15
                -2
                but it will look like this:
                1. igor67
                  igor67 9 December 2012 15: 20
                  -2
                  Green,
                  this wall is garbage. if anyone saw it. it is somehow strange built. most likely only in those areas where there are no reliable neighbors. The wall is not continuous. If you go along the highway along the wall, there are many open sections and roads that are connected by Arabs on the other side stop by. there’s not even a checkpoint there.
                  1. Green
                    Green 9 December 2012 15: 26
                    +1
                    This is the border with the Gaza Strip. There is a solid wall, I served there not far. In my time there were only a few sections without concrete reinforcement (Only wire fences) But in my opinion they have now completely enclosed the wall. And the border with Syria, yes, is rather arbitrary.
                    1. igor67
                      igor67 9 December 2012 15: 30
                      -2
                      Green,
                      In my opinion, only in the area of ​​the friends village of Majel Shams there is a wire fence. And with Kuneitra it’s not at all clear. It's a Syrian city, we quietly go on excursions.
                      1. Green
                        Green 9 December 2012 15: 42
                        -1
                        We'll have to enclose it with a wall, but in the mountains this is problematic. They will set up posts and build observation towers with machine guns to build. But in general, all this does not add optimism. I remembered a friend in Metula, who in 2006 spent the entire war in the kitchen and ate vodka under rocket fire. For all the time I never went down to the bomb shelter. To the question "Are you dick * cancer?" raised his drunken eyes and answered "Yes".
                      2. igor67
                        igor67 9 December 2012 15: 54
                        -3
                        Green,
                        Quote: Verde
                        sat in the kitchen and ate vodka under rocket fire.

                        and that I also ate vodka. there is no bomb shelter in our house
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 9 December 2012 17: 34
                        +5
                        Quote: igor67
                        and that I also ate vodka. there is no bomb shelter in our house

                        If you have vodka and a partner, then it is not necessary to have a bomb shelter))))
                        Hi Igor !!!))
                      4. igor67
                        igor67 9 December 2012 17: 39
                        -5
                        Hi buddy. This is what they say. Take over the medicine. drinks (toast) Here's today's news Press-TV: Israel and Azerbaijan jointly patrol the border with Iran
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                        Press-TV: Israel and Azerbaijan jointly patrol border with Iran

                        According to Iranian Press-TV channel, Azerbaijan uses Orbiter ultra-light unmanned aerial vehicles assembled with the help of Israeli experts to patrol the border with the Islamic Republic of Iran and Karabakh. The channel also notes that the American radar installation in the area of ​​the city of Astara, on the border with Iran, has intensified its work.

                        Press-TV quotes Iranian experts, according to whose information, Israeli Hermes-450 UAVs are also used to monitor the border. In 2009-12, Israel sold 10 such aircraft to Azerbaijan. They note that although these UAVs can be integrated with Israeli reconnaissance satellites, the level of interaction at the moment leaves much to be desired.

                        The TV channel reminds that Hermes-450 can be equipped not only with reconnaissance equipment, but also strike weapons, such as air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, as well as electronic warfare. However, the range of their action is rather limited - about 200-300 kilometers.

                        Recall that on December 2, the British Sunday Times announced that Israel is going to use the Eitan UAV deployed in Azerbaijan to intercept Iranian missiles fired at our country. The publication quoted the Israeli military as saying that Iranian missiles must be shot down while accelerating.

                        The state concern "Aviation Industry" began development of the heavy UAV "Eitan", 15 meters long and with a wingspan of 26 meters, nine years ago. The first squadron was deployed in December 2010. From unofficial sources it is known that "Eitan" can hold out in the air for up to 36 hours and at the same time operate at an altitude of 13-14 km.
                      5. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 9 December 2012 18: 00
                        0
                        Quote: igor67
                        According to Iranian Press-TV, Azerbaijan uses ultralight unmanned aerial vehicles assembled with the help of Israeli experts

                        Let them cry further))))))))))))))
                        Quote: igor67
                        Recall that on December 2, the British Sunday Times reported that Israel is going to use the Eitan UAV deployed in Azerbaijan to intercept Iranian missiles.

                        And this is not the first setup !!!
                      6. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 10 December 2012 17: 46
                        +2
                        Quote: igor67
                        Hi buddy. This is what they say. Take the medicine (toast). Here's the news today. Press-TV: Israel and Azerbaijan jointly patrol the border with Iran.


                        Iran’s defense ministry denied media reports on flights of Azerbaijani drones on the Iranian border. “We have no information about the flights of Azerbaijani drones on the border with Iran,” said Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Wahidi, Vesti.Az reports citing Mehr.
                      7. bart74
                        bart74 9 December 2012 18: 54
                        0
                        Shalam! I feel you are good there. And how much does vodka cost on the promised land?
                      8. igor67
                        igor67 9 December 2012 18: 57
                        0
                        bart74,
                        Shalom! Vodka Mernaya 0.75 from 11 to 15; Green Mark and Five Lakes 10;. Khortytsya expensive and Russian Standard
                      9. bart74
                        bart74 9 December 2012 19: 45
                        +1
                        Yes, Just like ours. Five Lakes is not bad. As they say, the main thing is to only benefit to health! Hold on there.
                      10. Fox 070
                        Fox 070 9 December 2012 19: 23
                        +4
                        Quote: bart74
                        Shalam!

                        And you, Artem, are you from North Ossetia?
                2. Kaa
                  Kaa 9 December 2012 23: 36
                  0
                  Quote: Verde
                  but it will look like this
                  and surround this ...
              2. Ascetic
                Ascetic 9 December 2012 15: 46
                +6
                igor67,

                The Israeli government stated that ready to take part in any military operations against the regime of Bashar al-Assad, if chemical weapons are used in Syria against the opposition. The international coalition will include USA, UK, Turkey and Jordan, the Isroil portal reports.
                The military special operation will involve 75 thousand fighters of elite units. The international coalition will not be able to obtain the sanction of the UN Security Council due to the veto of the Russian Federation and China. But the basis for a military special operation will be the use of chemical weapons, which qualifies as a crime against humanity.
                My webpage
                1. igor67
                  igor67 9 December 2012 15: 59
                  -3
                  Ascetic,
                  Quote: Ascetic

                  Israeli government says ready to take part

                  At first there was infa about what the British prime minister said. that Israel is obliged to support coalition forces from the air and ground. means put pressure on Bibi.
                  1. Green
                    Green 9 December 2012 16: 10
                    0
                    judging by the hysteria in the English-language press, they twist Bibi's hands thoroughly.
                    1. Thunderbolt
                      Thunderbolt 9 December 2012 16: 31
                      +4
                      It may seem that the Iranian nuclear program and the civil war in Syria are not related to each other, but in fact they are inextricably linked. Israel is afraid of losing its monopoly on nuclear weapons and, therefore, the possibility of using conventional weapons throughout the Middle East at its discretion. And this is a factor that everyone avoids in silence, forcing him to take a look at the Islamic Republic when making decisions. For the Israeli leaders, the real threat posed by a nuclear-armed Iran is not the prospect that reckless Iranian leaders will launch an unprovoked nuclear strike against Israel, leading to the destruction of both states. The fact is that Iran does not even need to conduct nuclear weapons tests to undermine Israeli military influence in Lebanon and Syria. Just being on the verge of possessing nuclear weapons could provoke the Iranian authorities to encourage their supporters in Lebanon, Hezbollah, to attack Israel, knowing that the enemy would have to think seriously before striking back.

                      That's where Syria comes in handy. It is the strategic relationship between the Islamic Republic and the Assad regime that enables Iran to undermine the security of Israel. The Islamic Republic has proven that it can pose a threat to Israel’s national security. After thirty years of hostile relations between Iran and Israel, although they have not yet reached the point of direct military action, nevertheless, with the help of Hezbollah, supported and trained by Iran through Syria, the Islamic Republic has proved that it can threaten the security interests of Israel.

                      The fall of the Assad regime will destroy this dangerous alliance. Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak (perhaps the most important decision-maker on the matter) recently told CNN's Christian Amanpour that the fall of the Assad regime "will be a serious blow to the radicalist bloc, a serious blow to Iran. ... He [ the Assad regime - approx. transl.] is a kind of exceptional outbreak of Iranian influence in the Arab world ... and its fall will seriously weaken both Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas with the Islamic Jihad in Gaza. "
                      1. bart74
                        bart74 9 December 2012 19: 03
                        +5
                        I agree with you. Israel is like losing its monopoly on nuclear weapons. Taking into account the "friendly" environment and the size of the population in these countries. But the main motive of amers is resources. Here is the access to the Caspian Sea and Central Asia, and through the Central Asians to China. I think everything is much more confusing. Some other Dallas plan.
                      2. Thunderbolt
                        Thunderbolt 9 December 2012 19: 37
                        +4
                        Quote: bart74
                        I think everything is much more confusing. Some other Dallas plan.

                        Artyom, this is one of the aspects of one of the interested parties. Each party wants to get more +, calculating the inevitable disadvantages. And the Dallas plan is here, what kind of analogies with the present do not find?
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                        We will throw everything that we have, all gold, all material power and resources into fooling, and fooling people.

                        The human brain, the minds of people are capable of change. Having sowed chaos in Russia, we will quietly replace their values ​​with fake ones and make them believe in these fake values ​​... We will find our like-minded people, our assistants and allies in Russia itself. Episode by episode will be played out with a grandiose scale tragedy of the death of the most rebellious people on earth, the final irreversible fading of his self-consciousness ...

                        For example, we will gradually erase their social essence from literature and art, alienate artists, discourage them from engaging in image, investigation (research), or something, of the processes that occur in the depths of the masses.

                        Literature, theaters, cinema, the press - everything will depict and glorify the most base human feelings, we will in every way support and raise the so-called artists who will plant and hammer into the human mind the cult of sex, violence, sadism, betrayal - in a word, all immorality.

                        In government, we will create chaos and confusion, discreetly, but actively and constantly we will promote tyranny of officials, bribe takers, unscrupulousness, bureaucracy and red tape will bring to virtue. We will ridicule honesty and decency - they will not be needed by anyone, they will turn into a relic of the past. Rudeness and arrogance, lies and deceit, drunkenness and drug addiction, animal fear of each other and shameless betrayal, nationalism and enmity of peoples, primarily enmity and hatred of the Russian people - all this we will cleverly and inconspicuously cultivate, all this will bloom in a double color .

                        And only a few, very few will guess or even understand what is happening. But we will put such people in a helpless position, turn them into a laughing stock, find a way to slander them and declare them to be the scum of society ...

                        Thus, we will shake generation after generation ... We will fight for people from childhood and youth, we will always place the main stake on young people, we will begin to corrupt, corrupt, and corrupt it.


























                        ?
                  2. Ascetic
                    Ascetic 9 December 2012 16: 57
                    +6
                    igor67,

                    Probably in connection with the subsequent collapse of Syria as a single state, they will try to cancel the UN Security Council resolution of 1981 No. 497 on the Golan Heights
                    and assign them to Israel. Otherwise, I personally do not see any benefits from the participation of Israel.
                    Well, indirectly, of course, Hezbollah’s position and Iran’s influence in Lebanon will weaken.
                    But this can be expected without getting involved in the war with Syria.
                    1. igor67
                      igor67 9 December 2012 17: 12
                      -3
                      Ascetic,
                      I found a more or less normal story about the Golan Heights. I have been there many times. And so many ancient synagogues are there. Syrian only made of concrete
                    2. Kaa
                      Kaa 9 December 2012 19: 56
                      +3
                      Quote: Ascetic
                      Well, indirectly, of course, Hezbollah’s position and Iran’s influence in Lebanon will weaken.

                      And I don’t go at all, what a profit to Israel in the fall of the Assad government. Until recently, in the event of an aggravation of the situation, there was someone to appeal to - the government of Syria, which was clearly not inclined to fight the Israelis in recent years. In the event of a hypothetical victory of the "oppositionists", they will have to negotiate with a good dozen evil uncles - "field commanders", whose subjects have never seen anything except shoot and blow up. Does Israel need it? Absurdity and surrealism, the mind is resting ... recourse
                  3. YARY
                    YARY 9 December 2012 17: 38
                    +4
                    But the basis for a military special operation will be the use of chemical weapons,

                    Did you live in the USSR? Read between the lines!
                    "If you (SyShyA) suddenly do not give up and attack, I am always ready for STE"
                    So here we have just a bazaar before the fight.
                    1. igor67
                      igor67 9 December 2012 17: 42
                      -3
                      YARY,
                      But the basis for the military special operation will be the fact of the use of chemical weapons, a formal occasion waited for the rout of the Syrian air defense. So that without loss in the Air Force
                      1. Sergh
                        Sergh 9 December 2012 19: 54
                        +4
                        Quote: igor67
                        other shootings from other Syrian air defense bases.

                        On the bottom two frames of the installation, most likely the modernized short-range anti-aircraft missile system S-75M-2 "Volga-2A"



                        short-range anti-aircraft missile system S-125 "Neva.



                        Interesting productions, directors greetings from the former test engineer of the electronic system (I won’t say which one) missiles. I thought their homeless people had already been handed over for scrap?
                      2. igor67
                        igor67 9 December 2012 20: 23
                        -5
                        Sergh,
                        Yes, I don’t have anything to do with missiles, I know the turntables, nk12.
                2. Green
                  Green 9 December 2012 16: 00
                  +1
                  Ground operation, if any, is only cross-border. But in the region, NATO does not have sufficient funds to break down Syria’s air defense with one blow, Turkey is not capable of such a task (or rather, it will entail significant losses in the ranks of the Air Force, most likely) But Israel has enough power to demolish the entire air defense system and destroy the Air Force without losses and open the way for Turkish special forces. But America must offer something very serious in return for Israel to climb into this burning hut.
                  1. igor67
                    igor67 9 December 2012 16: 19
                    -6
                    Green,
                    Sunday Times: Israeli special forces began a hunt for chemical weapons in Syria
                    publication time: 09: 44
                    last update: 09: 44
                    blog print version save as file email photo


                    Sunday Times: Israeli special forces began a hunt for chemical weapons in Syria

                    According to the British newspaper Sunday Times, December 9, fighters of elite units of the Israeli army were abandoned in Syria to discover secret depots of the chemical weapons of the Bashar al-Assad regime. The publication notes that the actions of the IDF special forces are part of the international campaign to eliminate the threat posed by the Syrian arsenal of WMD.

                    According to the newspaper, Israeli commandos were abandoned on the territory of a neighboring state after all alternative proposals were rejected. They refused to conduct a ground campaign, fearing losses, and from Assad’s chemical weapons depots to Assad because it could lead to infection of the territory adjacent to them.

                    Recall that on December 5, the Times wrote that Israel entered into a coalition with the United States, Britain, Jordan and Turkey. These countries are ready to attack Syria if the country's authorities use chemical weapons against the opposition. US President Barack Obama made a harsh statement in which he noted that the responsibility for this step will fall on Assad and his entourage.

                    A senior American source told the British newspaper that Washington and London had developed a military campaign plan to establish control over the Syrian arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. The operation, which can be started at any time, will be attended by 75.000 elite units.

                    On the same day, the NBC television channel reported, citing senior US sources, that the army of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had prepared to use the sarin bomb. According to the indicated sources, these bombs have not yet been loaded into combat aircraft; the Syrian Air Force is awaiting the president’s order.
                    1. Thunderbolt
                      Thunderbolt 9 December 2012 16: 40
                      +1
                      According to intelligence, the Syrian army has such toxic substances as VX gas, mustard gas and sarin. Chemical warheads can be mounted on cluster bombs, ballistic missiles, as well as long-range missiles.


                      The Syrian army has Scud missiles, the disadvantages of which include low accuracy. Moreover, the use of "Scuds" is most likely from the point of view of experts
                      Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2012/10/17/1047284.html
                      1. igor67
                        igor67 9 December 2012 16: 54
                        -2
                        Thunderbolt,
                        and where can these Scud missiles be used.? Against Israel it will not work too close. We are 60 km to Damascus.
                    2. igor67
                      igor67 9 December 2012 16: 41
                      -4
                      Syria, Aleppo - capture of air defense rebels
                  2. Thunderbolt
                    Thunderbolt 9 December 2012 16: 28
                    0
                    Syrian air defense and air force are potentially capable of destroying more than a hundred enemy aircraft. But, since the very first blow will be dealt precisely at the places of their deployment, their capabilities will be greatly reduced.

                    To suppress the Syrian air defense system, which has about 650 anti-aircraft missile systems, and aviation, which has about 450 aircraft of various classes, the creation of overwhelming air superiority will be required, otherwise NATO aviation losses will be very large. The alliance will need to assemble an air fleet of 1500-2000 aircraft.

                    If the NATO forces create a grouping of only 600-700 vehicles, it will suffer significant losses, because it will not be able to suppress all air defense and air force assets at the same time, and many of them will effectively counter it. If they create a grouping comparable to that which was set up against Iraq in 2003, that is, 2000-2500 aircraft, then by massing forces they will be able to solve the problem of suppressing air defense and air force assets in the first blows. Then the losses of NATO aviation can have in the range of 20-30 air courts
                    1. igor67
                      igor67 9 December 2012 16: 35
                      -7
                      Thunderbolt,
                      This is a fresh video. There are still other shootings from other Syrian air defense bases.
                      1. Thunderbolt
                        Thunderbolt 9 December 2012 17: 14
                        +1
                        Igor, thanks for the movie! this is the s-75 in modifications. And there is something of this: in accordance with the contract concluded in 2007 between Russia and Syria, the latter received the BukM2 air defense system, which made it possible to significantly expand the capabilities of the Syrian air defense. Secondly, the Syrians have at their disposal 48 long-range air defense systems S-200 "Angara" and, roughly, "Vega" and "Dubna". It is no coincidence that at the end of March the Americans carried out a special operation to destroy the remaining two hundred of the Libyans by strikes of the Tomahawk cruise missiles. NATO experts themselves admitted that the Soviet "two hundred" aircraft remains a formidable enemy for the alliance's aviation even now.

                        Its effectiveness and noise immunity was proved during the US operation against Libya "Fire on the Prairie" in 1986 and in the same Syria in 1982, where the long-range radar observation aircraft (AWAC) E-190C "Hokai" was shot down at a distance of 2 km which the United States was forced to abandon aid to Israel in the same volume and withdraw the carrier group from the coast of Lebanon. In addition, according to foreign intelligence services, the Syrian air defense has at its disposal 48 SAMs of the early Soviet-made S-300 modifications, tentatively delivered by Syria to the Belarussian side (these data were also later cited by Jane) and 50 SAM Shells.
                        eat this s-75.
                      2. igor67
                        igor67 9 December 2012 17: 26
                        -4
                        I think if you take the Syrian problem seriously, not from the words of the respected Gromova. And with a sober look, Assad is not so normal. I think why the British and Americans became more active. most likely with Syria air defense already ....
                      3. Thunderbolt
                        Thunderbolt 9 December 2012 17: 42
                        +2
                        I didn’t notice the destroyed mobile phones. This, I think, is the reason why the Americans and others like them, while the currents are activated, do not wave the gang of thugs from the height of the handle.
                      4. 77bor1973
                        77bor1973 9 December 2012 22: 21
                        +2
                        If this is S-200, then I am the Pope.
                      5. Sergh
                        Sergh 9 December 2012 17: 23
                        +2
                        Quote: igor67
                        other shootings from other Syrian air defense bases

                        Well stop throwing productions, complete nonsense. Either from Egypt or from the Libyan ancient base. By the way, this info has been hanging out for the third month, including about all airports.
                      6. igor67
                        igor67 9 December 2012 17: 46
                        -6
                        Sergh,
                        on the turntable the identification marks of the Syrian air force. I know a lot of them at one time repaired the truth 24 (item 246)

                        Sergh,
                        Sergey is not a production. It’s Syria, at least for dressings (Syrian) among mercenaries and nature.
                      7. brutal true
                        brutal true 9 December 2012 18: 41
                        +2
                        Quote: igor67
                        on the turntable the identification marks of the Syrian air force. I know a lot of them at one time repaired the truth 24 (item 246)

                        Come on, if building models are being built, then you can draw any signs, MI-8 is full throughout the world.
                      8. Sergh
                        Sergh 9 December 2012 19: 07
                        +7
                        Quote: igor67
                        Sergey is not a production, it’s Syria, at least for dressings (Syrian)

                        Oh damn I can’t, right now I’ll collapse from a chair looking at your S-200, in short, a filmmaker, however
                        of you shitty and on YouTube probably yesterday all day steamed flooded videos with one number.
                        You repaired Christmas toys, not equipment. Yap. Look at the S-200 carefully
                        and on the bed, tomorrow you will make a Syrian landscape, the day after tomorrow I will check.



                        On-board identification marks at Sriya on the helicopter and their placement, and the flag not on the tail boom.



                        We are tying it, trust in you is undermined.

                    2. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 9 December 2012 22: 37
                      0
                      They decided to use Assad’s military force probably not to the mercenary’s teeth, even if the Egypt deal with Egypt there, it’s in full swing
                  3. Ascetic
                    Ascetic 9 December 2012 19: 11
                    +7
                    Green,

                    In my opinion America no longer promises anything to anyone. Only stupidly "builds" his vassals as she herself needs, despite their deaf discontent and timid attempts to "roll away"
                    They want to control everything. I have already said this on the open television line. I sometimes get the impression that the United States does not need allies. They need vassals "

                    V. Putin,
                    And vassals do not promise them anything use rightfully strong.

                    I have already uploaded the entire video here
                    1. Green
                      Green 9 December 2012 19: 36
                      -1
                      Very much like that. But Israel is quite vulnerable to sanctions and embargo because it is completely deprived of resources, and the "elder" brother has imposed an embargo against the "younger" more than ten times. By the way, the development of an unreasonably large assortment of weapons for such a small country like Israel is connected with this. (The same Delilah was developed because the United States refused to sell Tomahawks) And Israel is very vulnerable in this regard, it costs nothing for the United States to twist Israel's hands.
                  4. Gluxar_
                    Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 04: 31
                    +2
                    Quote: Verde
                    But Israel has enough power to demolish the entire air defense system and destroy the Air Force without losses and open the way for Turkish special forces. But America must offer something very serious in return for Israel to climb into this burning hut.

                    The Turks also thought that they could fly without loss. flew by. Israel is expecting the same. And even more so, Iran is waiting for this. If Israel fools and attacks Syria, although this is not even in its interests, then a bloody orgy will begin in Israel itself. Hundreds and thousands of MANPADS will begin to shoot down not only military, but also civilian aircraft. Iran will hit Israel, even Muslims will unite and Israel will have to face not unarmed Palestinians, but full-fledged armies which, by the way, have been fighting the last couple of years without a break and combat experience. This will bury Israel and all Jews.
                    This is precisely why Israel will not climb, moreover, on the contrary, it is interested in the victory of Assad, since a split among Muslims gives it just some chance of the prospect of existence in the coming decades.
        2. Kaa
          Kaa 9 December 2012 23: 33
          +2
          Quote: Aleks tv
          "Dwight D. Eisenhower" did not go home after serving in the Persian Gulf, as announced, but was stuck in Syria?

          They substituted the old man under the "Bastions" to create a "casus belli", apparently, disposal in the United States is expensive, and so - the old American slogan "Remember the battleship" Maine "!
      6. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 04: 06
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hi Sergey, the amers have an aircraft carrier and 17 ships + a fleet of NATO sixes. Too little strength to sober up. Or maybe the evacuation will be

        The United States is sobering up not a few ships, but ICBM launches. Ships can simply create a "precedent" for the use of ICBMs. So the presence of the Russian fleet in this region is a sobering moment. Plus, no one cancels the reconnaissance capabilities from these ships, which Syria needs so much now.
    3. 53-Sciborskiy
      53-Sciborskiy 9 December 2012 12: 43
      +1
      A wise decision, Russia should be guided by its interests.
    4. Garrin
      Garrin 9 December 2012 15: 10
      +3
      Quote: sergo0000
      GREAT NEWS!
      DO NOT DROP Syria!

      The news is great, I agree. But, God forbid, that all our guys, in the end, would return alive and healthy.
      For those at sea !!! drinks
  3. boris.radevitch
    boris.radevitch 9 December 2012 11: 45
    +2
    Let them serve in the Mediterranean, it is useful for Russia! hi
    1. Dikremnij
      Dikremnij 10 December 2012 05: 01
      0
      Black Sea Fleet ships should always be present in the Mediterranean Sea, even if there are no conflicts in the region.
  4. omsbon
    omsbon 9 December 2012 11: 54
    +1
    Hope the presence of our warships sober hot heads wanting to fight in Syria!
    1. timurpl
      timurpl 9 December 2012 12: 04
      +6
      Quote: omsbon
      sobering up

      AFRAID THAT I WILL NOT CUT ...
      - THERE IS THE RED FLAG ON THE CAPITALITY - SOBBLE!
      1. mda
        mda 9 December 2012 12: 18
        +2
        Quote: timurpl

        Quote: omsbon
        sobering up
        AFRAID THAT I WILL NOT CUT ...
        - THERE IS THE RED FLAG ON THE CAPITALITY - SOBBLE!

        Not until the end, but sober
        1. bask
          bask 9 December 2012 12: 47
          +6
          Hello everyone. The main and main question? Will we throw Syria. If not. Then at least one ship of the Black Sea Fleet will cruise off the coast of Syria. One will stand for repair, in Tartus .. The NATO mongrel + amers will not be found. Syria .. to the Russian leadership. In particular, GDP. It is necessary to make clear to everyone that Syria is our ally, and military intervention in this country is not permissible ... But in the place, this. It’s all kind of mumble, and ambiguous statements .. One Lavrov, well done. Everything is clear and clear ... A good president of the Russian Federation could become !!!
          1. Green
            Green 9 December 2012 14: 51
            -6
            It seems that all the same they will merge Syria. At least that's what it looks like, especially in light of recent Turkish contracts.
            1. brutal true
              brutal true 9 December 2012 18: 46
              +1
              Quote: Verde
              It seems that all the same they will merge Syria. At least that's what it looks like, especially in light of recent Turkish contracts.

              These should be very very good contracts. Anyway, no contracts will cover our losses in the Middle East. Especially political.
              1. Kaa
                Kaa 9 December 2012 20: 10
                +1
                Quote: brutal true
                our losses in the Middle East will not cover any contracts

                And nobody seriously says this:
                "The Kremlin spokesman stressed that the topic of the talks is clearly divided into two blocks: bilateral relations, which are" very diverse and full of excellent projects, "and international problems. On international problems, Russia and Turkey "there are many serious disagreements, and we do not hide it"Also, Putin defended the Syrian authorities, referring to the recent shelling of Turkish territory. Putin expressed confidence that the shelling from Syria is an accident. The creation of "some additional opportunities on the border does not defuse the situation, but rather aggravates it." “You know what they say: if at the beginning of the play there is a gun hanging on the wall, then at the end of the play it must fire, why do we need more shooting at the border,” Putin said.Our foreign ministries will continue to work together towards peace in Syria and an end to the bloodshed, "the prime minister said. http://www.newsru.com/world/03dec2012/poehali.html
            2. 9 December 2012 23: 38
              -1
              Quote: Verde
              It seems that all the same they will merge Syria.

              What is this wording? And what about Stalin "leaking" Smolensk, Rostov, Kiev? And Kutuzov "leaked" Moscow?
              We must not forget that only thanks to the firm position of Russia and the excellent work of our Foreign Ministry and, in particular, Lavrov, Syria has not yet been destroyed. For over a year now, our country has held back the very strong pressure of the United States and its vassals, and if we have to leave, it will not be a drain, but a tactical, forced retreat before future revenge.
              There is a war going on, but in a war they do not always only advance and not all positions are held.
            3. Gluxar_
              Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 04: 38
              +1
              Quote: Verde
              It seems that all the same they will merge Syria. At least that's what it looks like, especially in light of recent Turkish contracts.

              Well, given the fact that Turkey depends on gas and electricity, and not Russia, it is most likely that Syria was bought by these contracts and not sold. In any case, there has been talk about the operation for 2 years, and so far only 25000 militants have found graves there.
          2. SSR
            SSR 9 December 2012 15: 22
            +1
            Quote: bask
            Hello everyone. The main and main question? Will we throw Syria. If not

            Headline on Yandex
            Defense Ministry will return the most competent officers dismissed under Serdyukov
            The Russian Defense Ministry plans to return the most competent officers dismissed under Serdyukov, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Sunday. Conference of Trustees of President Vladimir Putin.

            By love, not everything is calm
      2. SHILO
        SHILO 9 December 2012 12: 54
        +2
        timurpl
        AFRAID THAT I WILL NOT CUT ...
        - THERE IS THE RED FLAG ON THE CAPITALITY - SOBBLE!


        Something like this? laughing
      3. snek
        snek 9 December 2012 14: 21
        0
        Quote: timurpl
        THERE IS THE RED FLAG ON THE CAPITALITY-DISPLAY!

        Yes, it seems that the Chinese of the USA are not in a hurry to conquer (well, except economically).
      4. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 10 December 2012 00: 41
        +2
        Quote: timurpl
        THERE IS THE RED FLAG ON THE CAPITALITY-DROP

        then we’ll note it! drinks
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 10 December 2012 00: 46
          +1
          Otherwise, it is impossible, except to "bend your policy." Russia has already been put on the line for destruction as a state entity ...
  5. andrei332809
    andrei332809 9 December 2012 12: 06
    +7
    here you go. to political words and demonstrate a little strength.
    paraphrasing the classic, we will threaten the gang
  6. Rus2012
    Rus2012 9 December 2012 12: 07
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Hi Sergey, the amers have an aircraft carrier and 17 ships + a fleet of NATO sixes. Too little strength to sober up. Or maybe the evacuation will be

    ... do not forget about our strike boats, which with guarantee are able to drown AUGs there ...
  7. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 9 December 2012 12: 14
    +5
    Quote: Rus2012
    do not forget about our strike boats, which with a guarantee are able to drown AUGs there ...

    In theory, yes they are capable, but do not forget about the boats of the USA and NATO, how many of them there are now unknown.
    1. Cavas
      Cavas 9 December 2012 12: 24
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      In theory, yes they are capable, but do not forget about the boats of the USA and NATO, how many of them are currently unknown

      Sanya is unknown to you, well, to me. laughing
    2. YARY
      YARY 9 December 2012 12: 35
      +7
      Alexander with a compromise!
      That's why I said and say, until our fleet is at the level of the fleet of the USSR, until there is a permanent base in the Middle East and not the collective farm that is in Tartus now, until there is a new 5th group, we cannot make any more less serious warning!
      Only evacuation. And this is LOSE! And a shame!
      1. TekhnarMAF
        TekhnarMAF 9 December 2012 13: 41
        +2
        And who said that Ardent_Storming patriot! He's 100 percent right! What will we threaten the "Swedes" with!
      2. brutal true
        brutal true 9 December 2012 18: 51
        +1
        Quote: Ardent
        Only evacuation. And this is LOSE! And a shame!

        Do you propose a vigorous craving? It is necessary to proceed from the possibilities. If a strong butch begins, you have to leave. Of course, you can collect a fist from all fleets ...
    3. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 04: 40
      -1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      In theory, yes they are capable, but do not forget about the boats of the USA and NATO, how many of them there are now unknown.

      The fact is that not only AUG in the Mediterranean Sea can drown, but in general AUG. Today is, but tomorrow is not.
  8. nokki
    nokki 9 December 2012 12: 17
    +3
    To paraphrase Vladimir Ilyich, I will say: "Beat, beat and beat again !!!"
    1. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 9 December 2012 12: 49
      +9
      In principle, I understand the seriousness of the geopolitical situation, I am ready to shove a passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation into my anus (it will be more intact there) and go to the front line near Damascus, it’s not dumb for me to die if I’m sure that Moscow will give a "solutational salvo" in my memory under under the auspices "we will save our citizens anywhere in the world, as it was in Georgia. There would be a reason.
      Just someone still have to
  9. razved
    razved 9 December 2012 12: 48
    +5
    Their propaganda works great, especially in attempts to make Russia the main enemy of the Islamic world. It is thought that this may be followed by the announcement of the jihad of Russia and an attempt to raise a new bucha from us. It’s necessary to prepare. As the saying goes: Want peace, get ready for war.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 9 December 2012 13: 27
      +3
      read it, the French media write like this wassat
      Bashar and his accomplice Vladimir
      http://www.inosmi.ru/asia/20120415/190477140.html
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 December 2012 13: 48
        +5
        Quote: djon3volta
        Bashar and his accomplice Vladimir

        It’s interesting how much the author of this article paid to write such a lie. The productivity of Western journalists is no longer surprising, but Western readers should read more comments for this article. Everyone is sick there or not.
  10. djon3volta
    djon3volta 9 December 2012 13: 20
    +4
    hit only two missiles and the aircraft carrier is not combat ready.
    1. Bekzat
      Bekzat 9 December 2012 16: 33
      +1
      Greetings to everyone, what is this movie called?
      1. Focuser
        Focuser 9 December 2012 17: 59
        0
        It seems to be "The Sum Of All Fears " 2002.

        On the 2:01 the same frames with an aircraft carrier:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJIF9-6D52w
      2. YARY
        YARY 9 December 2012 19: 02
        +2
        Cheap-bound capitalist agitation "All the Fears of the World" by Clancy. Russophobe what to look for! Read the book and not the film you will understand.
    2. WW3
      WW3 9 December 2012 21: 58
      +1
      Quote: djon3volta
      hit only two missiles and the aircraft carrier is not combat ready.

      The author of this video Hollywood production continue to believe in amer cinema feel
  11. Serg_Y
    Serg_Y 9 December 2012 13: 29
    -2
    The army cannot be used against terrorists, the army must be used against organized official structures, states, coalition blocs, with which you can agree in case of anything. And this is a meat grinder and ironing tanks of residential areas.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 9 December 2012 13: 36
      -1
      Putin did just that, ironing Chechnya. Well, and how do you like today's Chechnya? Assad should do the same.
    2. TekhnarMAF
      TekhnarMAF 9 December 2012 13: 52
      +3
      It’s probably not possible against terrorists, Chechnya is not Chechens, it was aggression and the use of the Armed Forces was justified. The same is true in Syria. The answer must be adequate!
    3. Gorchakov
      Gorchakov 9 December 2012 13: 59
      +7
      Quote: Serg_Y
      The army cannot be used against terrorists

      These rules were invented by globalists to conquer the world ... There are no terrorists and opposition in Syria, there is a war of aggression using mercenaries financed from the outside ... They need to be ironed with tanks and burned with hot iron .... It is the army and only the army that should work here can save the situation in the country ... And it’s not for Western propagandists to decide when and where to use their armed forces ....
      1. Green
        Green 9 December 2012 14: 53
        -2
        Yes, but the war is network, sabotage, vile
      2. 9 December 2012 23: 49
        -1
        Quote: Gorchakov
        These rules were invented by globalists to conquer the world ... There are no terrorists and opposition in Syria, there is an aggressive war using mercenaries financed from the outside ...

        I agree. You just need to call a spade a spade, then everything will become clear.
      3. Cavas
        Cavas 10 December 2012 00: 04
        +4
        Quote: Gorchakov
        There are no terrorists and opposition in Syria, there is an aggressive war using mercenaries financed from the outside ...


    4. MstislavHrabr
      MstislavHrabr 9 December 2012 14: 12
      +8
      The army does not always need to be used ... For example, I would launch news to the press: The ships of the Russian Navy are sent to the coast of Qatar. According to reports, on board one of the ships is a special envoy of the President of the Russian Federation with an order to find out the state of human rights in this country ... And really swim so close ... Just not there and then ... But that's how much strength will be distracted from Syria, how much effort will be redirected ... But there can be many such des ... For that, it is an information war ... You need to beat not where you expect ... To play on the contradictions of the royal families, organize meetings with them and many others more ... Diplomacy, foreign intelligence and sophisticated work with the media can sometimes do much more than the Armed Forces ... The front is huge and you need to save the boys ...
      1. Green
        Green 9 December 2012 15: 01
        -2
        Place training barges - targets along the borders of Qatar’s guides and conduct large-scale missile exercises.
    5. Serg_Y
      Serg_Y 9 December 2012 18: 13
      +1
      I expressed my opinion, I will try to argue, the concept of conducting military operations against the enemy army and terrorists is fundamentally different, therefore it is impossible to build the optimal composition and weapons, it will turn out wrong. Terrorists should be engaged in separate specially trained and armed units. The army should be preparing for a real war, and this is not even the devirsants, although the effect due to mass character and supply bases may be similar.
  12. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 9 December 2012 13: 40
    +1
    Yes, the situation is getting worse every day.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aIpataWl4c4
  13. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 9 December 2012 13: 54
    +4
    Sergey, those terrorists who in Syria are a very organized army, they call it opposition only for speculation, Type, Oppa is a position!
    1. Serg_Y
      Serg_Y 9 December 2012 18: 23
      0
      Let's define the terminology, in my opinion the army is an organization of military specialists subordinate to the state. Terrorists do not fall under this definition even when in interaction.
  14. uizik
    uizik 9 December 2012 14: 08
    +4
    What one needs to learn from the amers is the art of fooling one’s own people, deceiving the world community, imposing their stereotypes, ideas, images. They called the terrorists revolutionaries and establish democracy in Libya and Syria, and set them on Russia for one thing. It’s time to develop a clear position on the radical Islam in general and including within the country. Do not flirt, respond appropriately, toughly and effectively. Colored only respect power! Checked by time.
    1. superbaranka
      superbaranka 9 December 2012 17: 28
      +1
      Regarding respect for strength, I agree 100%.
  15. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 9 December 2012 14: 12
    +8
    We live in a unipolar world. The UN has ceased to be the platform on which it was possible to achieve parity and stop the most rabid initiatives of the West.

    The situation in Syria is a model of the breakdown of international law. Even compared with Libya and Yemen, there was no argument for interfering and overthrowing the Syrian government. Syria was the most secular and enlightened state in the region, an example for the entire Arab world. Of course, Russia had to react to this intervention: if in the case of Libya it was possible to somehow avoid a decision contrary to Western policy, then in the case of Syria it was no longer possible to give slack, since this is a glaring fact confirming the ongoing process of dismantling the whole systems of international law. To agree with this for Russia was to completely lose its identity, therefore, an open opposition to the actions of the West in Syria was an inevitable decision for our country.

    What will the scrapping of international law lead to? To general chaos. Syria was the last stabilizing focus in the Middle East. In the event of an invasion of this country, war with Iran and the seizure of Central Asia will become inevitable; in the future, the tip of this policy is aimed at China and India.

    Chaos is the main eater of life and national wealth, it is much worse than military operations. Western policy in the Middle East leads the whole world precisely to chaos, to instability. The United States is clearly preparing for this, and according to the theory of controlled chaos, the winner is the one who is preparing for it.

    Russia and China are opposed to this, although the consistent holding of such a position is fraught with risk, as it can lead to an open conflict with the United States - over the whole geopolitical philosophical doctrine, and not on private issues. Today, every country fears sanctions from the West, but India and some Latin American states are leaning towards Russia, supported by China.

    All countries that voted against the resolution on Syria at the General Assembly understand that such a decision could ultimately hit them. However, if it succeeds in ending the intervention in Syria, this will be an encouraging example for the whole world.
  16. AIR ZNAK
    AIR ZNAK 9 December 2012 14: 35
    +3
    Yes, I already wrote once that until Assad puts up army units along his state border, this tub will be endless. According to the agreement with Turkey, the Turkish-Syrian border section is protected only from Turkey. This extended autonomy to the Kurds in exchange for partial border protection zones in places of compact residence of Kurds in Syria does not solve the problem. And without external recharge, after a maximum of six months, the intervention will come to naught. The problem will be largely closed. After that, redecorating the apartment will not be difficult.
    1. Green
      Green 9 December 2012 15: 07
      0
      It's impossible. Even tiny and high-tech Israel is not able to control all its borders, electronic fences and observation towers only in the most dangerous areas.
      The length of the Syrian borders is more than three thousand kilometers. Including mountainous areas.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 9 December 2012 15: 47
        +1
        no need to "fence" any fences. If the United States and its loyal allies are interested in the invasion, gangs of thugs will not stop any towers.
  17. wax
    wax 9 December 2012 15: 00
    0
    Amer is not there for invasion or direct participation. They are for electronic reconnaissance and struggle, for covering up aggression (most likely from Turkey), for target designation ... They will even gladly help us evacuate ours and try to protect us from attacking our base. The line has not yet reached us. And we still have to build up and build up the Armed Forces.
  18. mabuta
    mabuta 9 December 2012 15: 01
    +1
    Agree with Iran on the flights in their airspace of our strategists along Suez and Iraq. And time. x ... to have in Qatar all offshore gas liquefaction plants and hydrocarbon production infrastructure in case of aggression in Syria. We all perfectly understand what the question is: Syria is a gas pipeline to Europe or to the Mediterranean Sea for the Qatar gas fleet (54 gas carriers on average for 200 tons each) and, accordingly, a drop in gas prices, and the Saudis for oil. Of course, the construction will take some time (2-3year), and to abandon contractual relations with us Europe as two fingers on .. asphalt. The fact of such an agreement will cool many.
    1. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 9 December 2012 22: 20
      +1
      I’ve been proposing for half a year already, I’m even convinced that you don’t need to ask Iran, they themselves will be happy, they will also help with fighters as escort. And just do it, it’s necessary to finish, it’s appropriately blunting Qatar (sorry, I don’t pick other words), and if they don’t get it, then give the USA’s end to end and give it a hard
  19. Zabvo
    Zabvo 9 December 2012 15: 18
    +2
    But this is very, very good, a subtle hint to us that we can show "teeth", if that ... good
  20. igor67
    igor67 9 December 2012 16: 08
    -3
    Italian law enforcement officers detained an Egyptian citizen in the port of Naples trying to deliver 5 containers of weapons and ammunition on board. In one of the containers with smuggled weapons was a missile launcher.

    According to ANSA, information that weapons will be delivered to Naples was received from Israel. Border police and armed guards cordoned off part of the port to examine the contents of the containers, according to preliminary data, intended for shipment to Egypt.

    The Egyptian courier was detained by the Italian authorities.

    The routes that smuggled weapons into the Gaza Strip often take through Egypt. We will remind, on November 22, Cairo announced the interception of the first batch of smuggled weapons for Gaza after the termination of Operation Cloud Pillar. The smugglers were intercepted in the city of Masra Matruh, a Mediterranean resort on the road from the Nile Delta to the Libyan border. Arms from Libya are smuggled along this route.

    According to Egyptian sources, the confiscated shipment contained 108 Grad missile warheads and nearly 20.000 rounds of small arms ammunition.

    Earlier, the Palestinian terrorist organization Hamas announced that it was not going to refuse to deliver weapons to the Gaza Strip, despite the ceasefire agreement with Israel after Operation Cloud Pillar.
  21. TekhnarMAF
    TekhnarMAF 9 December 2012 16: 32
    +4
    Back to the original: Congratulations to ALL. who serves the Fatherland not for orders and crosses, but at the call of his heart!
  22. homosum20
    homosum20 9 December 2012 16: 47
    +1
    Something neither ours nor the Chinese have long made any statements. It is alarming. Threats are also weapons.
  23. AIR ZNAK
    AIR ZNAK 9 December 2012 17: 54
    +2
    There are the most and least dangerous sections of the border. To remove part of the troops from the least dangerous section and plug holes in the most dangerous section. To do this, you need not so much a military as a political decision. Assad has a small choice .. But there is. Remove some forces from the Israeli direction. You can’t take part from the coast. It’s very vicious. You need to regroup internal garrisons. But you need to do something. Qatar will have enough money to finance certain forces for a long time. Assad’s position on the international arena can only be corrected by ceasing intervention. The country's economy will otherwise decline. ..... and that’s it. amba. And we, too, will lose the base of the Navy. We have lost too much over the past 25 years. It's a shame for the state.
  24. bubla5
    bubla5 9 December 2012 18: 17
    +1
    We ourselves need to shatter inside countries such as Qatar, the Emirates and Saudi Arabia, since there is money
  25. nitrid
    nitrid 9 December 2012 19: 04
    -2
    Look at it - it starts ...
    [media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = SN5Zo7ggHNc & feature = player_embedded
    ]
  26. Cavas
    Cavas 9 December 2012 19: 09
    +3
    Quote: nitrid
    Look at it - it starts ...

    Yes, you my friend a provocateur, read the signatures in English under this false shooting!
  27. bart74
    bart74 9 December 2012 19: 13
    +1
    It is not clear what is muddied. Either the evacuation, or the strengthening of the Syrian missile defense due to the detachment of ships. But at least the fact that they turned from words to action to at least some kind of body movements is encouraging.
  28. 1goose3
    1goose3 9 December 2012 20: 15
    0
    A sobering message, but how effective time will show. But regarding the thousands of Saudis, radical Islamists, I absolutely agree with Yarim. And to be honest, the calm of the authorities scares. The authorities do not want to see problems, and this is fraught. Attempts to replace leaders of traditional Islam loyal to power with radicals and extremists in person. This is not the case when you can refer to the fact that Russia is a secular state.
  29. zemlyak
    zemlyak 9 December 2012 20: 48
    -5
    It is a pity to Syria, the verdict has been passed and will be carried out. We leaked Syria, merged in Turkey during Putin's visit. It is a pity for the locals, they will be cut out by families as rams, no one will intervene for them. It will be easier for the military, they will have a chance to die in battle, no one will take them prisoner. Ethnic massacre under a plausible pretext. Everything went to this, suspicious silence of China on the pretext of transferring power, then our politicians began to claim that they were not Assad’s lawyers, Well, then Putin’s visit to Turkey. Yes, now it’s not 37 years old, as Putin said, but it was 37 years old.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 9 December 2012 21: 30
      +3
      Quote: zemlyak
      We merged Syria, merged

      Countryman! You carefully read the title of the article!
    2. WW3
      WW3 9 December 2012 22: 25
      +3
      Quote: zemlyak
      We leaked Syria

      Do not confuse with Libya ... Medvedev tried there ... by the way, material on those events ... who leaked something ....
      Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Friday, August 12, signed a decree "On measures to implement the UN Security Council resolution 1973 of March 17, 2011."
      The draft decree provides for the application of a number of restrictions in relation to the Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya (Libya) established by resolution 1973, as well as additional measures are introduced to implement the restrictions stipulated by the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of March 9, 2011 “On measures to implement the UN Security Council resolution 1970 February 26, 2011, ”Interfax reports referring to the Kremlin’s press service.
      In addition, warships are allowed to conduct searches on the high seas of ships heading to or from Libya, if the Russian Federation has information that suggests that the ship is used to deliver personnel for the provision of services related to military activities, including the delivery of armed mercenaries , or transports goods containing products in respect of the sale, delivery and transfer of which a ban was introduced by Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of March 9, 2011.
      The draft decree also prohibits operations with cash and financial assets of the immediate relatives of Muammar Gaddafi, his entourage, Libyan legal entities, and also prohibits the entry into the territory of the Russian Federation or the passage through it of some individuals.

      http://bellenta-spb.livejournal.com/83372.html
      1. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 04: 51
        +1
        Quote: WW3
        Do not confuse with Libya ... Medvedev tried there ... by the way, material on those events ... who leaked something ....

        Libya was merged because there was no choice, and the interests are not so significant. Gaddafi with the French is more than a lobby. But what effect and a trump card in the sleeve gave Russia such a drain of Libya? It was the aggression against Libya that took off all the masks, and the show that happened on September 11, so generally 5 points. Sometimes drain to win. Libyan gambit, as historians call it. Although the Libyans feel sorry .tam now the medieval Inquisition in its beauty ...
        1. WW3
          WW3 10 December 2012 07: 16
          +1
          Quote: Gluxar_
          Libya merged because there was no choice, and interests are not so significant

          There is always a choice ...
          Quote: Gluxar_
          Sometimes drain to win.

          Controversial statement ... so you can go very far .....
          1. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ 10 December 2012 08: 42
            0
            Quote: WW3
            There is always a choice ...

            Of course. In this situation, you could either join and have a drink together, or do as you did.
            Quote: WW3
            Controversial statement ... so you can go very far .....

            You don't need to go far. A precedent was needed, it happened. now there will be a trump card in the sleeve for many years to come. There are still no full-fledged investigations, at least not publicized. And so far the UN has not carried out a new inventory of Libya. Let's see how the HDI is doing there. This is another icon of "democratization" will be.
            1. WW3
              WW3 11 December 2012 03: 58
              +2
              Quote: Gluxar_
              It’s not necessary to go far. A precedent was needed, it happened.

              You probably forgot Yugoslavia ... negative refresh a little memory ...
  30. Sergg
    Sergg 9 December 2012 21: 28
    +4
    We know from the media that Germany is going to deliver its soldiers and missile defense installations to Turkey, the US aircraft carrier approached Syria. The situation by NATO countries is escalating around Syria. It is logical that our ships remained in the region on combat duty. I would very much like our politicians to be firm in military matters.
    You can’t give up positions in Syria, because, among other things, we are a little time-consuming, since the process of re-equipping our army is underway and we still have to do a lot of weapons.
  31. WW3
    WW3 9 December 2012 22: 11
    +2
    In the near future, Russian ships may receive new directions. Until further notice, they will remain in the Aegean.

    Of course you need to be present, you can’t let events drift away - they will be more respected and reckoned with the opinion .... Lavrov’s statements are just in the context that foreign policy will be harder and tougher ...
  32. nitrid
    nitrid 9 December 2012 22: 27
    0
    Quote: Cavas
    Yes, you my friend a provocateur, read the signatures in English under this false shooting!


    And I’m talking about - after the words of peaceful Barack about chemical weapons, disinformation begins to be thrown. No one abandons his plans, therefore, the fleet remains.
  33. Tatarus
    Tatarus 9 December 2012 23: 22
    +2
    Quote: Ardent
    The same Qatar and the Saudis have already sent more than two thousand people who were with them for "spiritual training" to Kazan. !!!!


    Himself a third Tatar, grandfather's name was Salah. But if at least one non-human being is not very, on my land, where my ancestors lie, will threaten my relatives, ZDA to everyone I can reach. But I need to collect the same half-breeds, who honor their Tatars in the family (which are many times more than pure Tatars), visit my historical homeland and cut out all those who are not worthy of the Tatar name. Tatar is one of the main pillars of Russia. Without him, she would not have been. But HE wouldn’t have created it alone.
  34. harrymur
    harrymur 10 December 2012 00: 25
    -1
    here the strategists gathered, it’s not understandable all the mess that they would drag us in there, and you’re tearing right there, you’ll fasten these green strips a la jihad, it’s better to look at the enemy’s gates on our land, and you’re all close divide the east, let's just say idiocy, yourself in shit, so climb into another garbage dump, stupidity, run up and kill yourself against the wall
    1. rapid1934
      rapid1934 10 December 2012 18: 20
      +1
      Quote: harrimur
      better look at the stavropol-enemy at the gates on our land,

      I fully support. Stop throwing caps overseas, it's time to understand in your home!
  35. VPO
    VPO 10 December 2012 12: 01
    -1
    Guys, I’ll tell you honestly, although you probably won’t like it. But sometimes it seems to me that in the near future most likely within 3 months we will receive a deafening slap in the form of one-colored Syria. Everything has been decided with Syria, it has already been broken. It’s already too late to climb there. If you carefully analyze everything about the Syrian news in recent years, you can clearly see a sharp jump in the activity of FRIENDS of Syria. The active phase is being prepared. All impotent movements of our foreign policy come down to the banal evacuation of our citizens. And the news is only about a possible evacuation. Changed Syria to the gas pipeline through Turkey. Everything is elementary. Then wakes Iran. And then, apparently, it is our turn.
  36. Bob
    Bob 10 December 2012 12: 21
    +1
    UWB secretly brought 3 thousand shooters into Iraq, apparently not for a walk. 20 ships off the Syrian coast is also rather not for a show of force. Israel cleans Lebanon without a ground operation. A week ago, NATO foreign ministers met on Syria. Obama's statement that he will definitely deal with Syria in the near future. The slated deadline for Iran is March 2013. and the fact that it is impossible to climb into Iran while Syria is standing. Experts' statements about 100% invasion of Syria in the coming month.
    All together says one thing - the war with Syria will begin in the coming days. In view of the declared red line in Syria for the West, the situation may develop unpredictably (following the example of how it developed in Yugoslavia in 1999, where no one could vouch for anything and the conflict was miraculously avoided, one British general did not want to unleash World War 3 ...., is there now such a person who can confidently say that history will repeat itself?).
  37. Bob
    Bob 10 December 2012 13: 49
    +2
    in view of what is expressed here by some not wanting to get involved in a conflict ....
    The reasons for not getting involved are understandable - one’s own shirt is closer, enough has fought, there’s nothing to fight, etc.
    Reasons to get involved: Syria and Iran are linked by a common agreement of 2006, which clearly defines the rights and obligations of the parties in the event of external aggression. Therefore, everything that will happen with Syria cannot but affect the Iranian conflict, and hence Russia, because it borders Iran on the Caspian Sea and is actually an underbelly, that is, a zone of strategic interests in the Caucasus and Central Asia. Does Russia have the right not to react to the Iranian-Syrian conflict ?! Or should this entire international gang of terrorists be allowed to their borders, led by the crap states of the "light" West ?! So that they choke, torture our old people, children, mothers with countless terror of the invisible front, with one hope - to weaken the state as much as possible, undermine its stability and security, in order to destroy it ?!
  38. VPO
    VPO 10 December 2012 14: 02
    +1
    Bob, say it right. But there is one thing. Unfortunately, Russia has already allowed this entire gang to the borders. Amers do not have a way back, the return line is passed. They cannot stop the war machine because they live on it. The country is imprisoned for warfare. It is clear that a critical mass is awakened once, but they do not think about these problems yet.
    1. Bob
      Bob 10 December 2012 14: 29
      0
      I agree HPE, this is their infamous essence. And the problem of our country is the illiterate management of it in the recent past, which can be put in the category of betrayal. Take the same Humpbacked, who now lives freely in the West, thanks to him they destroyed the USSR, gave Germany and part of Europe to the enemy, lost half of their most modern and heavy missile systems of the Voivode, lost the carrier fleet, all previously won positions in the world (the same military naval bases in Vietnam, Cuba, etc.), you can long list what we lost.
      And now the rest that we can lose: Central Asia, the Caucasus, the Caspian (where there is no NATO yet), the Southern Frontiers, the destabilization of the Islamic republics of Russia and finally the collapse of Russia itself. Dulles plan is 90% implemented. The fate of the remaining 10% is decided before our eyes. And fate can be controlled by influencing critical factors of the crisis mechanism.
  39. Bob
    Bob 10 December 2012 14: 10
    0
    I believe that the battle on the information field has not yet been lost and the maximum benefits should be derived from this, in order to then justify all subsequent steps, including military ones. And for this you need to have a clearly defined plan of action in an "unexpected" situation.
  40. radio operator
    radio operator 11 December 2012 10: 34
    -1
    It is gratifying to hear that Russia has a desire and opportunity to defend its will, its interests.
  41. washi
    washi 13 December 2012 15: 20
    0
    Again the struggle ov, I am the Nazi face, ov, Jews and Zionists. Our ships are good.
    What are they for? A war to unleash between ours and theirs? Unlikely. To evacuate, as in Yemen, during the Soviet era - most likely.