The head of the Russian administration of the Kharkiv region: the RF Armed Forces came close to Kupyansk

The Russian army is conducting local offensive operations in several directions. Earlier, it was reported about fierce battles in the Maryinsky and Avdeevsky (DPR) directions, where the RF Armed Forces knocked out the enemy from the “oporniks” near Krasnogorovka.

Today it became known about the successes of our army in the Kharkov region. So, the RF Armed Forces came close to Kupyansk, as he writes TASS with reference to the head of the CAA of the region Vitaly Ganchev.

According to the official, the line of contact is already in the immediate vicinity of the city, which is divided into two parts by the Oskol River. The left-bank part is now under the control of the RF Armed Forces. At the same time, as Ganchev put it, even the Ukrainian media do not hide the fact that positional battles have already been recorded directly within the city.

It is worth noting that the successes of the Russian army in the Kharkov direction today are of great importance. The thing is that the abandonment of the RF Armed Forces from their positions on the territory of the region last autumn gave the Armed Forces of Ukraine the opportunity to conduct fierce artillery shelling of settlements in the Belgorod Region, and also opened the way for enemy DRG sorties into our border areas.

In connection with the recently increased shelling of the region, which has already led to numerous casualties among the civilian population, many military experts and politicians spoke in favor of the offensive of the RF Armed Forces in the Kharkiv direction and the occupation of territories from which the Ukrainian military is shelling peaceful border settlements.

Comments

[coinsam]

Well, that's great, if that's the case. In a month, bring their positions near the city as close as possible, and by that time the Wagners will rest, show class in urban battles.

[novel66]

Well, it's necessary for others to be heroes
Ttttttttt
The bell would have been repaired, otherwise it was short

[Plate]

Yes, there will be no bell at all.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

In such a protracted war, one has to take into account the factor of keeping the civilian population in the liberated cities. It's one thing when cities were taken without destructive battles, such as Berdyansk, Melitopol and the same Kherson. And a completely different matter is Mariupol, Severodonetsk, Lysichansk and others, where after liberation they have to take on their maintenance absolutely the entire population with pensioners and children, and for the able-bodied part to look for employment with at least some benefit and return. So the capture of Kharkov with Zaporozhye, especially with the great destruction of industrial infrastructure and housing stock, with the unbroken resistance of the rest of Ukraine, will lay a heavy burden on the Russian budget. Maybe that's also why there is such a burden to starve the enemy without moving the front?

[Rumata]

that the successes of the Russian army in the Kharkov direction today are of great importance. The thing is that the abandonment of the RF Armed Forces from their positions in the region in the fall of last year gave the Armed Forces of Ukraine the opportunity to conduct a fierce artillery shelling of settlements in the Belgorod region,

This is a story for a long time. If we liberate Kupyansk, the VFU will shell it, if we liberate Kharkov, they will start hitting it, and so on until Chop. Uno variant.

[Jean Baptiste]

No, I think if we arrange a "Kharkov meat grinder" which has been asking for a long time, of course, after the mobilization of another 200-250 thousand. Then after that it will be clear who the father is, and it will be very difficult to make up for the losses, and a huge psychological pressure, Kharkiv for a second
The 2nd largest city of Krajina, this is not Bakhmut for you.

[Vlad 63]

If 20 thousand Wagners died for Bakhmut, then Kharkov is 15 times larger than Bakhmut in terms of population

[Jean Baptiste]

Unfortunately, you are right, with an equal technological level, and a lack of resources on both sides, everything will be decided by the operational delivery of new reserves., Adjusted for coefficients such as motivation, skill of military leaders, military luck and TD.

[Plate]

Quote: Jean Baptiste

Of course, after the mobilization of another 200-250 thousand.

No more mobilizations are needed. As for me, the first one was not needed, but since there is already ...
It is necessary not to recruit people into the army, but into design bureaus, laboratories, research institutes, factories and other enterprises responsible for the supply of advanced weapons to the NVO zone, as well as ammunition for these weapons.
Yes, and pounding on the city the way they are pounding now, this is not how you need to fight. The Americans in their conflicts seem to have developed more advanced methods of urban operations. And in general, more advanced methods of warfare.

[YanniKounnar]

US methodes plus avancées ? Examples :
- Des bombes guidées ont été utilisées pour frapper un abri réservé aux civils à Amiriyyah en banlieue de Bagdad, faisant 400 morts civils.
- Un quartier entier de la ville d'Haouidja, dans le nord de l'Irak, a été détruit par un raid aérien mené par la coalition anti-Daech sous commandement américain, tuant des dizaines de civils
- L'autoroute de la mort. Une route au nord de la ville de Koweït qui mène à l'Iraq.(tuant sans discernement militaires et otages civils)
- 'environ 2 tons d'uranium provenant de munitions de guerre alliées ont été dispersées sous forme de poussière d'oxyde d'uranium dans le pays, et Falloujah fait partie des 000 sites les plus touchés'

US more advanced methods? Examples: - Guided bombs hit a civilian hideout in Amiriya, a suburb of Baghdad, killing 400 civilians. - An air strike by the US-led coalition against ISIS destroyed an entire block in the city of Khaouijah in northern Iraq, killing dozens of civilians. - Highway of death. Road north of Kuwait leading to Iraq. (indiscriminate killing of military and civilian hostages) - "About 2 tons of uranium from Allied military munitions were dispersed as uranium oxide dust in the country, and Fallujah is among the 000 most affected sites"

[topol717]

Quote: Plate

No more mobilizations are needed. As for me, the first one was not needed, but since there is already ...
It is necessary not to recruit people into the army, but into design bureaus, laboratories, research institutes, factories and other enterprises responsible for the supply of advanced weapons to the NVO zone, as well as ammunition for these weapons.
Yes, and pounding on the city the way they are pounding now, this is not how you need to fight.

Your words would be up to God's ears. more precisely, not to God, but to the General Staff, the Moscow Region, and where else you need it.
But alas, ignoramuses are sitting there, who yesterday did not need lancets, and the parade was the best achievement. And therefore, victory will be obtained with shovels and lives.

[Jean Baptiste]

They wrote beautifully, I fully support it. If you don’t know that now copper is begging from the oligarchs for shells, and they decide what price it will suit both sides while the boys are yelling there (and not only Wagner, things are not better in the troops, according to military correspondents), then everything is mind and how to. But there is one more nuance, this war does not bring money, and the reversal of industry on a war footing is fraught with losses. But the "meat", sorry for the jargon, is compensated by the newly annexed territories, I think it sounds cynical, but people who are thrown into the muzzle of war hundreds of thousands of souls have long figured and calculated everything.

[terms]

The situation is reminiscent of the times of World War I, when its state negotiated with industrialists and could not even purchase banal materials for the production of protection against poisonous substances - gas masks, etc. Oh, the oligarchs will finish their game. In the 1th, those who survived ticked so that their heels sparkled right from Australia. Then they sat there and yearned for "the Russia we lost")

[Dilettante grandfather]

If we liberate Kupyansk, the VFU will shell it, if we liberate Kharkov, they will start hitting it, and so on until Chop.

Basically, you are being logical. But what will happen when we liberate Lvov? Will they start shooting at him from the territory of Poland?

[topol717]

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

Basically, you are being logical. But what will happen when we liberate Lvov? Will they start shooting at him from the territory of Poland?

I don’t understand one thing, why free the ruins left from the city?
Well, Gerasimov and Shoigu are certainly smart people, but why free the ruins?
maybe it's easier to bury all the Bandera people there?

[Incvizitor]

Better than them than Belgorod, the more they will still look like Artemovsk.

[phrases]

Damn unexpected conclusions about Kharkov. And there is also a common border beyond the Kharkiv region, where you probably have to wait, all of a sudden they still won’t climb there.

[Poplar]

the line of contact already passes in the immediate vicinity of the city, which is divided into two parts by the Oskol River. The left-bank part is now under the control of the RF Armed Forces. At the same time, as Ganchev put it, even the Ukrainian media do not hide the fact that positional battles have already been recorded directly within the city.

Somehow it is not very clear what it means: the left-bank part is under the control of the RF Armed Forces? Under fire control or are we physically present there? If our units are present there, then the author wrote some kind of bilebird, and if only we have the opportunity to deliver artillery and bomb strikes, then we must write like that.

[Sergey_С0710]

We are not in Kupyansk - we took Masyutovka and next to Sinkovka, but this is not Kupyansk at all. This cannot be called an offensive - on our part, a very slow tactical
promotion, no more

[rocket757]

In connection with the recently increased shelling of the region, which has already led to numerous casualties among the civilian population, many military experts and politicians spoke in favor of the offensive of the RF Armed Forces in the Kharkiv direction and the occupation of territories from which the Ukrainian military is shelling peaceful border settlements.

. Does anyone doubt that the Kukuevites will start to nightmare the population in the liberated territories? They don't care whom and how to nightmare, they crossed the line and ceased to be people, there was a solid non-human.

[FoBoss_VM]

Is there a Russian administration of the Odessa region? Well, or Sumy and Poltava? Well, I’m like that, for myself, purely neighing .. the administration of the red estuary and raisins is Russian? In exile.. sska clowns

[Fan-fan]

So I was struck by the title of the article - "The Russian Administration of the Kharkov Region." Is Kharkiv ours? When did they manage to appoint officials to this position and, most importantly, why?
This is very similar to the division of the skin of an unkilled bear. Ivan correctly wrote above - some kind of circus ..

[Rage66]

Dear, do you distinguish a region from a city?
There is the administration of the region and there is the administration of the city.
In the Zaporozhye region, by the way, the same

[Boris Sergeev]

When they fled from the Kharkov region, did the leadership of the Russian Federation have no idea that the Belgorod region would be shelled from there? Or were the exercises in the Far East more important? They simply left the north of the Kharkov region. Never a "contract". When they left the Chernihiv and Sumy regions as a "goodwill gesture", did you think that it would be convenient to shell Bryansk and Kursk from there? "I'm not interested in your intentions, I'm interested in your opportunities."

[Sergey_С0710]

The feeling is that when they left the north of the Kharkiv region they counted on an agreement, but it didn’t work out (the partners refused), and now they don’t know what to do - the Belgorod region is quickly turning into a war zone

[Boris Sergeev]

Doesn't it bother you yourself from "counting on an agreement"? The agreement either already exists, or it does not exist at all. And this is not for you, but for those who "counted". More precisely, he simply covered up his betrayal with this.

[mmaxx]

Last summer is generally beyond reason. Sitting for six months and doing nothing for defense. And play toys in the Far East. I then wrote about it, they threw slippers on me here. I have never seen so many cons in my life. As if it was not clear that artillery and MLRS would hit where they would get it. We are looking for warehouses, equipment, troops. And our non-brothers do not care where to shoot. And it is much more pleasant for them to shoot at the cities than at the military. The essence is Bandera.

[mmaxx]

Gaspadin minus for draping, flashing his heels? Show me your face!

[Kuziming]

Perhaps this is exactly what ukrovermacht wanted.
As long as there is no clear superiority in long-range strikes, it is not strategically beneficial to drive infantry into attacks. There will be, perhaps, local successes, but there will also be a problem point that constantly requires reinforcements.
Such dispersal of forces is dangerous.

Now the main thing is to strengthen reconnaissance, constantly monitor the positions of artillery, its warehouses, and hit them.
Search and find tanks, determine dangerous directions, hit enemy tanks and reserves of fuel and ammunition.

[Eug]

There are almost all suburbs around Kharkov, and it is very convenient to attack the attackers from the city, having almost a million people with transport, food supplies, medicine, mobile resources as a rear base. To storm Kharkov is not an option, to surround it - so it takes at least a third of the number of Russian troops ... That's another task.

[Plate]

There is an option to raze it to the ground. Against weeks and months of merciless bombing and shelling, not a single city in history has resisted

[Rage66]

It is easier to do. Give three days for the exit of all their cities, and if not, appoint a tactical nuclear weapon strike.
If they bend, Kharkov is ours and you can continue to use the technique. If they don't, it won't get worse.

[Plate]

They will not come out, and the use of tactical nuclear weapons will be an interesting precedent in international politics with unclear consequences. Unlike the city again, what the Americans were doing in one form or another actively after the Second World War. But yes, if he does, it will be possible to start playing the nuclear blackmail card.

[mmaxx]

Therefore, it is not clear why some company was assigned to Kharkov. We had to break into the shelves. This is such a valuable city. Something went wrong at the beginning.

[fa2998]

Quote: Jean Baptiste

The 2nd largest city of Krajina, this is not Bakhmut for you.

Quote: Jean Baptiste

The 2nd largest city of Krajina, this is not Bakhmut for you.

Well, if Bakhmut was stormed for 240 days, then Kharkov is probably for 2 years

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: fa2998

Well, if Bakhmut was stormed for 240 days, then Kharkov is probably for 2 years

Surround, block and let them sit and think about their behavior ... Yes, arsenals, yes fuel depots, and other crap. But they will not be able to sit in the blockade for a long time.

[Sergey_С0710]

What to surround it with? For such an operation, at least 200 thousand are needed - and new mobilization (even partial), as Peskov said, is not planned - we have not yet exhausted our "concerns"!

[Plate]

It is less than 100 kilometers from Kharkov to Belgorod (according to Yandex.Maps, I put an end to it from Kharkov to Belgorod - 73-74 km). Kharkov is right on the border, well. MLRS is easy to get. Planning bombs too. Only it is necessary to carry out not such shelling as the Armed Forces of Ukraine carry out, but seriously and for a long time. So that after a couple of weeks or a month of shelling, there would be nothing left from Kharkov and its suburbs except ruins, which are almost impossible to defend. And so you can demolish everything in front of you.
Yes, you will need a lot of ammunition and consumables for weapons. But that's why it's better to send people to factories and design bureaus, and not to the front.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Plate

Only it is necessary to carry out not such shelling as the Armed Forces of Ukraine carry out, but seriously and for a long time.

I don’t really understand in connection with what they are minus. if you conduct regular shelling, then the city will be demolished. if you start an assault, then shelling will be needed and the city will be demolished. in any case, the city will be demolished. what's the point of being on ceremony? or if during the assault they didn’t put 20000-40000, then it’s not comme il faut? yes, the fate of the city is unenviable, but the city will turn into ruins in any case, the only question is how many of our soldiers will die during the assault and how many will not die if they occupy already scorched ruins.

[Plate]

Quote: SanichSan

if you conduct regular shelling, then the city will be demolished. if you start an assault, then shelling will be needed and the city will be demolished. in any case, the city will be demolished. what's the point of being on ceremony? or if during the assault they didn’t put 20000-40000, then it’s not comme il faut?

Certainly not comme il faut. If you destroy all enemy objects in front of you for a long time and methodically, without storming them, how many heroes will not receive new stars! How many reports of heroic self-sacrifice will be missed! And how can the population admire then?
I don't know what's being downvoted, to be honest. But somehow it doesn't matter.

[meandr51]

Yes, more humane than 10 nuclear warheads of 50 kt in one salvo.

[terms]

In fact, you don’t need much - the question is rather in technology. And it is quite possible to smoke out slowly from there, because if you surround and move the defense line away from Kharkov to the west, they are guaranteed not to receive any reinforcements. Further, it is purely reconnaissance work and the gradual destruction of first large storages of weapons and ammunition, then smaller ones, plus the destruction of equipment. They won’t do much with machine guns alone. In any case, this situation will not be on their side. In any case, the Kharkov problem will have to be solved somehow sooner or later. It's unavoidable.

[mmaxx]

Sitting in the city and sitting in an open field are two big differences. We have already sat there. This is not a medieval fortress. Yes, and those, more often than not, could not surround them in a solid way.

[Rage66]

In February 1943, our troops took Kharkov ... In March 1943 they left it again ... In August 1943 Kharkov was finally liberated ... The assault on Berlin began on April 24, 1945, The last remnants of German units were destroyed or captured by May 7 .. How much can you calculate the outcome of the war using the multiplication table?

[Plate]

It is possible and necessary to calculate the outcome of the war. Only this calculation is much more complicated than the multiplication table.

[mmaxx]

The question is: can we now afford the losses then? The power of weapons has increased incomparably.

[syabroleonid]

The only natural barrier to the separation of the parties is the Dnieper River. It is worth striving for this line.

[Simple]

Yes, the unenviable fate of the cities.
Will all the cities of the DPR, LPR, Kharkiv region turn into a pile of bricks?

[Fan-fan]

Mariupol was destroyed, and now they are rebuilding it, have you seen the TV reports? True, Ukraine is large, there are many cities, and we will not have enough resources to rebuild everything anew.

[Egg]

Quote: Fan-Fan

True, Ukraine is large, there are many cities, and we will not have enough resources to rebuild everything anew.

Enough, just we have heaps of resources, not much money, but enough resources :)
But what development the construction industry will get! and production of building materials
We urgently need to buy for the garage, I feel the prices will skyrocket for building materials.
Again, they moaned here about jobs, get it and sign it, there will be a sea, you will have to expand the supply of gastro workers

[mmaxx]

Anything is better than shove money on American treasuries. Already squashed.

[Rage66]

We don't have enough resources to rebuild everything.

Don't you have enough?
You won’t have enough toilet on a suburban area to rebuild ... If you have this area

[This is the main]

no need to go to town! it is necessary to bypass the cities, encircle them and cut them off from supply and replenishment with personnel !!! otherwise the assault is the death on both sides, including the civilian population and the destruction of cities, in western Ukraine you can storm with carpet bombing.

[mmaxx]

There are cities and towns all over. How to bypass? And the city is a natural base and shelter for the army. Anything can be hidden there.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

I do not rule out the possibility that not a Ukrainian will launch an offensive, but we will return to the Kharkiv region. It’s hard for Putin to endure the Belgorod shelling ...

[Valery_Erickson]

In this situation, Sumy must be taken

[meandr51]

Quote: Vlad 63

If 20 thousand Wagners died for Bakhmut, then Kharkov is 15 times larger than Bakhmut in terms of population

And what about the population? It doesn't fight. Only the balance of power matters. I hesitate to ask: why climb into the city? It is enough to block communications and turn off the urban structure. The larger the city, the sooner it will devour itself.

[meandr51]

Quote: Plate

It is less than 100 kilometers from Kharkov to Belgorod (according to Yandex.Maps, I put an end to it from Kharkov to Belgorod - 73-74 km). Kharkov is right on the border, well. MLRS is easy to get. Planning bombs too. Only it is necessary to carry out not such shelling as the Armed Forces of Ukraine carry out, but seriously and for a long time. So that after a couple of weeks or a month of shelling, there would be nothing left from Kharkov and its suburbs except ruins, which are almost impossible to defend. And so you can demolish everything in front of you.
Yes, you will need a lot of ammunition and consumables for weapons. But that's why it's better to send people to factories and design bureaus, and not to the front.

Why, when there are nuclear weapons? This is the best kind of denazification. And they will respect us like the Americans after Hiroshima. And if someone doesn't...