A batch of new front-line bombers Su-34 entered service with the Russian Aerospace Forces

The Russian Ministry of Defense received a new batch of Su-34 front-line bombers, combat vehicles have already set off for a new location. This was reported by the press service of the United Aircraft Corporation.

The Russian Aerospace Forces received a batch of Su-34 front-line bombers. As stated in the UAC, this is the first delivery of operational-tactical aircraft aviation this year. The bombers were manufactured at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. V.P. Chkalov, passed the entire set of ground and flight tests before being transferred to the military.

How many aircraft in the transferred batch is not reported, the delivery took place according to the program of the current year. The equipment has already been accepted by the engineering and technical staff and went to the place of deployment. It is possible that some of the new aircraft will soon join the special military operation.

It is worth noting that recently the military has received Su-34M front-line bombers, which means modernized. The updated aircraft received new avionics, high-precision weapons and a set of several outboard reconnaissance containers. It was reported that before 2027, the military plans to receive 76 modernized Su-34M new buildings, in addition, it is planned to upgrade the entire fleet of Su-34s in service to the level of Su-34M.

The Su-34 is a Russian multifunctional fighter-bomber designed to deliver air strikes against enemy ground targets in operational and tactical depths in conditions of strong opposition. Able to carry out missions without cover fighters. Uses long-range air-to-surface and air-to-air guided weapons with multi-channel capability. Equipped with a highly intelligent radar countermeasures and defense system. The flight range is up to 4 km, the maximum speed is up to 000 km / h, and the combat load is up to eight tons.

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[Orange Bigg]

The Russian Aerospace Forces received a batch of Su-34 front-line bombers. As stated in the UAC, this is the first delivery of operational-tactical aircraft this year.

Middle of the year, but only the first delivery.

[Nexcom]

It is impossible to indicate in open media how much, when and where military equipment will arrive. At least some.

[Konnick]

It is impossible to indicate in open media how much, when and where military equipment will arrive.

And scare? Can they scare us with F-16s? What about us?

[Nexcom]

Why scare? Let DAM do this on Twitter - he has such a job. We do not need to frighten them, but to sausage harshly without further ado.

[Orange Bigg]

In theory, the new Su-34M should be able to use the X-59MK2 KR (the export version was called the Kh-69) and the X-50 KR, otherwise it’s not an option to drive strategists all the time. Yes, and the Kh-101 / Kh-555 are more expensive missiles and They have more EPR. Aviation high-precision cruise missile X-69 was first shown to the general public at the international military forum "Army-2022".

The missile carries 310 kg of explosives with a range of 290 km. The weight of the X-69 is 710 kg, and the speed can range from 700 to 1000 km/h.

The missile has a combined navigation and control system - an autonomous inertial system with course correction based on data from GLONASS navigation satellites and an optoelectronic homing system based on a reference terrain map recorded in the missile's memory. As a result, the deviation from the target does not exceed five meters.

https://www.ixbt.com/news/2022/08/17/novejshaja-aviacionnaja-raketa-h69-imeet-kvadratnoe-sechenie-a-otklonenie-ot-celi-ne-prevyshaet-pjati-metrov.html

[Ruslan Saidov]

Do not compare lancets and other tactical products with long-range missiles, rear areas, bases, air defense facilities, radar stations, com centers, etc.

[drone-expert]

Quote: Ruslan Saidov

Do not compare lancets and other tactical products with long-range missiles, rear areas, bases, air defense facilities, radar stations, com centers, etc.

For long distances, we fly 90% Shahids and 10% Caliber now. In fact, the task of depleting Ukraine's air defense and hitting small targets such as "armored vehicles" in the deep rear of Ukraine is now also being done by drones.

If we didn’t have the Air Force for furniture, then we would have won the war long ago. However, the tale of the carpet bombings remained a bedtime story for children. The evil air defense wolf came and bit our air force on the flank. God forbid that our Air Force even started to fight with planning bombs. Now the return on investment in them is not clear. For such grandmas it was possible to buy TENS OF THOUSAND drones and the air defense of Ukraine would have ceased to exist long ago, because. neither Ukraine nor NATO has so many air defense missiles.

[bayard]

Quote: drone-expert

All these Air Force howls about "precision missiles" are shattered by their enchanting corrupt cost, as well as extremely limited production.

"Corruption component" is a favorite mantra of liberals. And often not domestic, but quite even from the near (or far) abroad. Can you give examples of sky-high prices for the "high-precision systems" you mentioned above?
Here's how much, for example, the KR "Caliber" costs?
Your brethren poured in something like two, or three million, moreover, dollars.
On what basis?
In the USA, "Tomahawks" cost so much, but we have "nothing", so we are even more expensive ... So ?
And how much does "Caliber" actually cost for the RF Ministry of Defense?
A strand of 400 thousand dollars. or most likely even less, because this price has been around for so many years ... and the rocket in the series, thousands have already been released, especially if you count the "Caliber" along with its shortened version of the R-500 ("Iskander-K"). So for today I think that no more than 350 thousand dollars.
- And where is the corruption component? - you ask
Calmness. The corruption component, as it should be, is in place. In place. She is SITTING (yes, yes), in a general regime colony. 12 years (if memory has not changed) to that responsible "comrade" who was instructed to get the engine for the "Caliber" (produced under the union in Zaporozhye) with technology and the entire technical process and establish mass production. He got it. And fixed it. But he had the imprudence to invest in its value "corruption component". In common parlance - he screwed up the selling price several times from the cost price. Moreover, he tried to persist in his rights ... And he sat down ... And what did you want - an obvious corruption component.
And when our "Caliber" made their first and so famous, a volley at the Syrian barmaley, and the whole world was amazed at the possibilities of Russia ... this "comrade" remembered that he was also involved in this glory ... and wrote an open letter with a proposal to recall him, understand, forgive, let go and reward.
Did not help .
And for example, look at the purchase prices of our aircraft. And try to find more corruption in it.
You will be amazed ... enterprises there barely (and sometimes quite to themselves) produce their products without detriment to themselves. Look at the cost of the Su-34 (without M). Actually, this is ... the cheapest aircraft of the Su-27 family. And this is despite the fact that it is the largest of them, double, carries armor and an armored cabin ... has a maximum bomb load of up to 12 tons (!!) and has a maximum flight range of up to 4000 km. And it costs only some 27 million dollars. !! And the Su-35S "already" 35 million dollars. !!! And the Su-57 (drum roll) as much as ... 37 million dollars. (perhaps later the MO raised the price, because obviously no one wanted to produce this plane for that kind of money) !!
So try to dig up "kickbacks", "bribes" and "cuts" in such price tags.
Another example?
Yes for sure!!
Do you know how much the Defense Ministry costs to build one Borei-A SSBN?
$550 million for head.
And for the last of the delivered MOs, something on the order of 485 million dollars. !!!
With what to compare?
The lead frigate, Project 22350, cost $550 million.
And the corvette (KORVET Karl !!!) pr. 20385 costs the MO 450 million dollars.
And if you can find a corruption component in a corvette (this is the Barrier radar, Klimov mentions this through the article, and Timokhin with him), then it’s absolutely impossible to find one in the frigate pr. 22350 and SSBN Borey-A.
Well, for comparison with foreign counterparts, look for the price of such ships, aircraft and missiles from the United States ... which, by definition, cannot have corruption.
Look at how much is expected in the cost of the Columbia SSBN (an analogue of our Borea), the Virginia MAPL, the new Constellation frigate.
And that is why Russia has SO MANY ROCKETS that never run out.

Quote: drone-expert

the tale of the carpet bombings remained a bedtime story for children.

This is an American fairy tale (about the carpet bombing).

Quote: drone-expert

The evil air defense wolf came and bit our air force on the flank.

No . it's just that the nature of the conflict has changed, taken on a protracted character, the RF Armed Forces no longer attacked ... So why risk aviation? We have very little of it. Let's go on the offensive, then you will see it (OUR Aviation) in full glory. In the meantime, endure the strikes of the Kyrgyz Republic and UAVs and stand strong. Everything will be on time.

Quote: drone-expert

God forbid that our Air Force even started to fight with planning bombs.

So they work as UPABs every day many times . But soon there will be much more, more often, more painfully.
And UAVs are also getting bigger.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: drone-expert

Airplanes are for parades. Moreover, even at parades in Moscow, piss has been flying for the 2nd year, because. one Stinger saboteur on the roof is enough for everyone to understand what such an Air Force is worth.

Maybe so . Or maybe not . Why do the Svidoukry beg from the F-16 omeriga? The whole West is asked for these unnecessary combat aircraft to anyone .. For what?

[drone-expert]

Quote: 30 vis

Why do the Svidoukry beg from the F-16 omeriga?

The air force is now almost useless as tactical aviation, but it works quite well as air defense, especially against cruise missiles and large drones that fly slowly and fighters not even on duty in the air have time to take off to intercept.

In the NATO concept, the F-16 has long been an air defense aircraft and, as a fighter-bomber, is used only in anti-Papuan operations. In the zone of normal air defense, he is not a player.

The problem for Ukrainians is that NATO has invested very little in air defense systems. Even the Patriot PAC-3 is essentially a missile defense system against OTRK, which can attack a US base somewhere. In PAC-3, the radius of work against the Air Force and cruise missiles even decreased relative to PAC-2 by 2 times.

Then NATO simply does not have so many analogues of the S-300, Bukov and Os to replace the enchanting scale of the USSR air defense in Ukraine, created to repel the raid of all NATO aviation from the late 1980s. Missiles for Soviet air defense systems are running out and air defense can only be done at the expense of the F-16, now NATO does not even have NASAMS air defense systems to put at least 1 thing in every regional center of Ukraine. There are about 20 large thermal power plants and thermal power plants in Ukraine, and each needs air defense.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote: drone-expert

Quote from Orange Bigg

In theory, the new Su-34M should be able to use the X-59MK2 KR

All these Air Force howls about "precision missiles" are shattered by their enchanting corrupt cost, as well as extremely limited production.

Planning bombs were wrapped in many respects precisely because they interfered with sawing on rockets. Especially when you consider that in a planning bomb, most of the electronics can be bought on Aliexpress 50 times cheaper than the junk of our military-industrial complex. In fact, only the Comet CRPA antenna is needed to receive GLONASS in electronic warfare conditions.

All these "rackets" just forget. Look at Lostamore how much even LMUR has filled and you want to cry and laugh against the backdrop of the successes of the Lancet, and even our Deshman FPV drones. They hit under 70 units of Ukrainian equipment per month. More than our entire Air Force for an enormous amount of money combined. Even more than the Air Force + artillery, when it comes to counter-battery combat and radar suppression.

Airplanes are for parades. Moreover, even at parades in Moscow, piss has been flying for the 2nd year, because. one Stinger saboteur on the roof is enough for everyone to understand what such an Air Force is worth.

As part of the VOZmesdia Swarm project, the first batches of kamikaze drones were received by units of the Southern Group of the RF Armed Forces. A video appeared on the Web (video at the link below), which showed one of such batches of drones assembled for the Russian military. The video demonstrates thousands of quadrocopters - FPV drones - extremely useful devices designed to destroy enemy personnel and various equipment.

We have prepared a sufficient number of crews of combat drones necessary for the daily destruction of enemy manpower and equipment, including those supplied from the West. Victory will be ours!

- the video says.

https://topcor.ru/35768-tysjachi-dronov-kamikadze-postupili-v-podrazdelenija-vs-rf-v-zone-specoperacii.html

[drone-expert]

The concept of a swarm of drones failed, as did the concept of large drones.
If you look at the statistics of Lostamore, you will see that in swarms to a depth of 70 km from the front, nothing is hit at all. These are single Lancets and FPV drones. They perfectly penetrate air defense and electronic warfare. The concept of "kamikaze + reconnaissance + artificial intelligence" won.

Only Shaheeds fly in swarms, but they usually attack an entire air defense positional area from a bunch of different air defense systems. In fact, there is only one such district in Ukraine - Kyiv.

[Foul skeptic]

that swarms to a depth of 70 km from the front do not strike anything at all.

Only Shaheeds fly in swarms

Are you sure you understand the swarm concept? Looks like no. Both sides of the conflict do not have UAVs organized in swarms. Swarm is not about quantity, it's about interaction.

[drone-expert]

Quote: Nefarious skeptic

Are you sure you understand the swarm concept? Looks like no. Both sides of the conflict do not have UAVs organized in swarms. Swarm is not about quantity, it's about interaction.

I understand something, but you and those who are plus you do not.

To begin with, the swarm is about quantity. Wipe your ass with your manual. It’s just that a swarm is usually used in the conditions of combating air defense, but now there is almost no air defense position area without electronic warfare. Therefore, your baby talk about the communication of drones with each other, just FORGET. Communication is done through repeater drones, which are at a great distance of 30+ km, so that they have their drone in sight, and EW over the horizon does not interfere.

Swarms are not used against fleet air defense for the reason that air defense systems simply almost never shoot at drones. Drones, especially those made as a "flying wing" of ZALA, are hardly noticeable and the consumption of air defense missiles is often 3-4 pieces per drone. But most importantly, the cost of even MANPADS is higher than one drone, and therefore it is usually not profitable to shoot down drones.

Another serious point is that your stupid couch army does not understand what effect artificial intelligence has as in the Lancet with orientation not by GPS, but visually. Such a drone easily flies a significant part of the trajectory generally descending between the trees. The lancet flies high only in front of the target, because. it is easier to capture the neural network from above.

So once again. Take with the fools you plus your old training manuals, tear out the pages and wipe your ass in the toilet with them. CBO has shown that things don't work that way in the First Drone War.

[Foul skeptic]

You are a dummy, not an expert. Compiling your fantasies in sheets of text on the principle of heaping up more words that you yourself do not understand, and therefore your texts seem to you "heavily smart." Well, and also, perhaps, to the same narrow-minded victims of post-perestroika education, with exorbitant ambitions, while not even mastering spelling.

[oldmetal]

SPAM has also penetrated VO.Shcha again, my message will be too short.

[Rumata]

Quote: Nexcom

It is impossible to indicate in open media how many

It is impossible, but it is possible to calculate from open sources.

The total number of Su-34Ms built in 2022 was ten units, and the total number of aircraft manufactured under the 2020 contract was 14 aircraft.
The total number of Su-34s built reached an estimated 153 units, including seven experimental and pre-production aircraft.

Let's say that we started working in 2 shifts and riveted 20 pieces a year.
Then for half a year = 10 pieces, i.e. 2/3 squadron.
Z.Y. Losses on the Ukrainian theater 6 .... 8pcs.

[oldmetal]

What's the difference, but maybe a squadron kit right away. Why guess then?

[Peter1First]

It depends on how many planes are in this delivery ... And in general, they are not so relevant in Ukraine now - so, if only FABs with attached wings are released, and even then, with an eye to see if there is a Patriot hidden somewhere in the bushes. More needed SU-35, but also modernized, because. 2 pcs. already shot down by Patriots

[Orange Bigg]

The Su-57 is needed. It is both inconspicuous and has better radars for detecting and destroying the same air defense.

[drone-expert]

Quote from Orange Bigg

The Su-57 is needed. It is both inconspicuous and has better radars for detecting and destroying the same air defense.

Yeah, I turned on the radar and stealth itself)))))) That's what's interesting is the same nonsense among the guys who order planes from Sukhoi.

UAV Okhotnik is even less noticeable than the Su-57, because. the main visibility is actually associated with the air intake and turbine nozzle. The Indians abandoned the Su-57, because. unlike the F-22, its frontal air intake DOES NOT HAVE STEALTH TECHNOLOGY AT ALL. In other words, the front of the Su-57 shines the same way as the Su-35. In Okhotnik, the air intake was transferred to the flying wing from above, so for air defense systems shining from below it is usually outside the irradiation zone. The Hunter also has a flat nozzle. The Su-57 cannot have it because of our nonsense of useless super-maneuverability with modern air-to-air missiles and the detection of conventional F-150 aircraft at more than 16 km, even on the Su-34 radar.

In the West, they correctly write about the disgusting management in our Air Force production, where junk or broken products are riveted, but strike UAVs are not produced with a finished project.

Oh yes. The hunter is 4 times cheaper than the Su-57. Drinking is harder. Really trouble.

[oldmetal]

"and he has better radars for detecting and destroying the same air defense." Radars are not needed. We need radiation detectors and intelligent computing devices that allow you to select the desired evasive maneuver. approaching the target and defeating it.

[drone-expert]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Middle of the year, but only the first delivery

Do not tell me, why do we need another Su-34? We had 147 of them before the SVO. Lost about 10 pieces. However, in fact, 70% of the Su-34 fleet smokes bamboo, because. it just doesn't work as tactical aviation.

The Su-35 fighter is more often engaged in bombing, because. has protection against MANPADS like Vitebsk. The role of an attack aircraft is more performed by the grandfathers of the Su-25 (it’s not a pity to lose metal, like).

Bombers do not have enough gliding bombs, they themselves are not needed for hell even in the amount of 50 pieces, until the air defense is suppressed.

Dry, instead of sawing on the Su-34, it would be better to tear off his ass and complete the Okhotnik UAV, which is 3 times cheaper than the Su-34, but much more secretive and, most importantly, there is no "hero-pilot" who stupidly pisses to fly for the front. The robot, unlike the pilot, is not afraid to die, as the experience of the NWO has shown, this plays a decisive role in many cases.

Until Sukhoi finishes it, Hunter in Putin's place would simply stop paying Sukhoi. His products now have extremely low efficiency at the front. While the Hunter is gone, it is better to spend money on 10.000 glide bombs than to buy another duckling, which, terrified of Ukrainian air defenses, will dive at the airfield.

[Orange Bigg]

Yes, at least for the masked use of planning bombs on targets, which are now in abundance.

[drone-expert]

Quote from Orange Bigg

Yes, at least for the masked use of planning bombs on targets, which are now in abundance.

In fact, one Su-34 can throw 10 (TEN) planning bombs from the FAB-500. Our production of planning bombs is still experimental and we have never thrown more than 30 planning bombs a day. You can laugh at our Air Force, but even 5 Su-34s will be enough for you to carry out the current tasks of bombing.

[Foul skeptic]

In fact, one Su-34 can throw 10 (TEN) planning bombs from the FAB-500.

Even in theory no more than 8

su-35 fighter, because has protection against MANPADS like Vitebsk

The Su-35 does not have the L-370. Although this phrase is generally difficult to understand, it violates the rules for constructing sentences in Russian.

[figwam]

Quote: drone-expert

The Su-35 fighter is more often engaged in bombing

Su-35 is covering the Su-34

Quote: drone-expert

The role of the attack aircraft is more performed by the grandfathers of the Su-25

And the role of the bomber is just performed by the Su-34

[drone-expert]

Quote: figvam

And the role of the bomber is just performed by the Su-34

This is what is written in your books for schoolchildren and in the brains of local sofa experts.

Now a typical bombing strike is done at the most with 2 500 kg bombs. Therefore, the increased bomb load of the Su-34 is not needed at all. However, the geniuses from Sukhoi did not put the Vitebsk MANPADS suppression system on the Su-34 as on the Ka-52, and the main threat is from MANPADS, because. The air defense systems drove our Lancets and artillery from the front for 50 km. Vitebsk is on the Su-35, so it is more protected for the mission of the bomber in the realities of the NVO, and not the fantasies of couch strategists.

If you look at the losses, you can see that most of the Su-35s were lost precisely in the mission as bombers.

[oldmetal]

Didn't Dry make you? You read the post - solid design flaws.

[fruc]

Orange-Bigg ..... The middle of the year, but only the first delivery.

If you are not in the know, I can report that the manufacturer regularly delivers this type of aircraft to the customer of the Ministry of Defense. Everything goes according to plan.

[Konnick]

By 2027, the military plans to receive 76 modernized Su-34M new construction

I wonder how many new Air Force pilots will receive before 2027?

[Nexcom]

Are you a spy? Why do you need such data?
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[Konnick]

Are you a spy? Why do you need such data?

Uh-huh, I wrote down that by 2027 they plan to receive 76 (no more and no less) Su-34M. After all, someone sits with the military and plans. But will these planes be needed, maybe it’s better to spend money on Lancets and Orlans? It looks like there is not much sense from the Su-34, it was painfully easy to shoot it down on May 13 and it’s a pity for the pilots.

[dmi.pris1]

Two universities will recruit flight crews. We definitely need more. We need both equipment and people ..

[Plate]

You don't need a lot of pilots for 76 aircraft. Even if there are 10 pilots for each, this is 760 people. As if not very many - many universities accept so many first-year students every year, or even more.
And for maintenance, you can also hire specialists with civilian training.

[Rumata]

Quote: Konnick

how many new air force pilots will receive

The Krasnodar School is the only educational institution in Russia that trains military pilots.
In total, the school graduated 2022 military pilots in 400. Of these, 11 people received a diploma with honors and a gold medal, 55 people received a diploma with honors.

[dmi.pris1]

In Voronezh, the Zhukovsky Academy is still. Not?

[egor1712]

Good plane. And partners in tandem.

[Konnick]

Good plane

Only a dry tank hammered at our border guards in Shebekino, where were these good ones? Or have they already been banned from approaching closer than 100 kilometers to the border? Ugh, so the tank left. Another shame. Expensive doesn't mean good.

[oldmetal]

I believe that for the staff of the CIPSO it is necessary to introduce a mechanism for a permanent ban on the forum. We would like to hear suggestions from the Administration.

[Rumata]

combat load - up to eight tons.

Probably, if the kerosene is half poured, then 10 tons can be. At 2000 km. enough.
Isn't it time to attach the wings to the ten-ton AVBPM and attach them to these Dryers?
I dream of seeing fireworks.

[Plate]

AVBPM, it seems, cannot even throw the Tu-22. Under this case, the Tu-160 is needed. Well, wings for such a thing ...

[Sergey_Sailor]

This is good. So that the number of takeoffs is equal to the number of landings. “So they say in army aviation” ... I myself am a submariner, I don’t know how to

[gig334]

By 2027, the military plans to receive 76 modernized Su-34M

Few of course, at least 100 of these per year should be made, and not squeezed out drop by drop. Especially now.

[Sergey_С0710]

Good news, but it is important that there is no shortage of pilots

[drone-expert]

Quote: Konnick

By 2027, the military plans to receive 76 modernized Su-34M new construction

I wonder how many new Air Force pilots will receive before 2027?

We produce about 400 pilots a year. In the case of the Su-34, it’s just a plus that teapots can fly there, because. the function of pilot and weapons operator is divorced. It is easier to prepare them separately than a fighter-bomber pilot, who must do both the first and second and also launch the weapon at the same time as piloting.

But the problem is not the pilots, but that 70% of the Su-34s do not fly anyway. The "500s" problem as Figtherbomber writes. Pilots are simply afraid to fly in air defense conditions. If the Su-34 were a drone, then the Air Force would have fought at a different level, even if the drone is worse than a person, because. the drone does not refuse to fly over the front. Then the latest tests of artificial intelligence both in our country and in the USA show that AI beats the pilots. This is not surprising, a convolutional neural network, like in the Lancet, in 98% of the cases recognizes targets better than people

[gig334]

The on-board computer in modern aircraft recognizes targets no worse. And not a single drone has such a speed as modern aircraft, and also cannot carry so much combat load. You need this and that.

[Plate]

I myself am a supporter of the most active use of AI in the army, including I am for giving him the right to independently decide on the murder. But we have been skeptical even about UAVs for a very long time. They will be suppressed by electronic warfare, control will be intercepted, he will not raise much ... etc. and so on. And as for AI-like technologies in the control of military equipment, all the more arguments: he will not be able to make the necessary decisions on time, he will make a mistake, the enemy will outwit him ...
But, as I understand it, the main problem is that no one knows who to judge and who to punish if the AI ​​commits a war crime.

[drone-expert]

Quote: Plate

But, as I understand it, the main problem is that no one knows who to judge and who to punish if the AI ​​commits a war crime.

The main problem with AI and drones is our favorite cut and rollback. It's just easier to cut on airplanes and boats. Exactly because of the same problem of corruption in the United States, admirals and generals did not even order analogues of Lancets or ZALA intelligence officers there. Cheap, and when the cut goes, then cut the same% of the amount. Plus, it’s not respectable for kids in parades to show small airplanes as a "demonstration of strength." A rusty trough like Moscow or a futuristic-looking plane - that's strength. The problem is that for the 2nd year our Air Force ssat will take part in the parade on May 9th, because. what an evil Ukrainian with a Stinger on the roof can spoil the halo of greatness.

Our AI drone vendors like ZALA and Albatros came into existence because striped thieves didn't make them. These are civilian developments that were born from surveying drones. Therefore, they quietly installed state-of-the-art Nvidia Jetson boards for AI and gave a shit about our import substitution with electronics from your grandfather's TV.

However, war, like hunger, is not an aunt. Here they are already paying those who howl, and not run around in parades. Therefore, Putin decided to invest 1 TRILLION rubles in drones and the budgets of the Navy will be very cut off, you can forget about laying new ships. In the part of the Air Force, there will be normal purchases of only aircraft, because. they have planning bombs. The concept of attack helicopters, in fact, also failed, and attack helicopters are plowed by an aircraft modeling circle at the home of pioneers from ZALA.

[oldmetal]

"In the case of the Su-34, it's just a plus that teapots can fly there, because the functions of the pilot and weapons operator are divorced." Only dummies can write such rubbish.

[amr]

Quote: drone-expert

Dry, instead of sawing on the Su-34, it would be better to tear off his ass and complete the Okhotnik UAV, which is 3 times cheaper than the Su-34, but much more secretive and, most importantly, there is no "hero-pilot" who stupidly pisses to fly for the front. The robot, unlike the pilot, is not afraid to die, as the experience of the NWO has shown, this plays a decisive role in many cases.

Until Sukhoi finishes it, Hunter in Putin's place would simply stop paying Sukhoi. His products now have extremely low efficiency at the front. While the Hunter is gone, it is better to spend money on 10.000 glide bombs than to buy another duckling, which, terrified of Ukrainian air defenses, will dive at the airfield.

I applaud while standing !!!!
tired of throwing hats on the enemy, when will they finish the bombs?

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote: Konnick

It is impossible to indicate in open media how much, when and where military equipment will arrive.

And scare? Can they scare us with F-16s? What about us?

Intelligence already knows: their satellites hang over the plant, all the time.