How Hitler wanted all Czechs to be exiled to Patagonia

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A long time ago, the author of these lines read that Adolf Hitler, driven by the desire to free up more living space for the Aryan Germans he loved so much, wanted to resettle the Czechs in Latin America. Specifically, Patagonia. Which the author then associated only with information from Jules Verne's novel "Children of Captain Grant". The climate and life in general in distant Patagonia were a classic of adventure literature presented in harsh colors, and therefore the author felt sorry for the poor Czechs in absentia, who, apparently, only miraculously managed to avoid this unenviable fate.

However, having settled in the Czech Republic and trying to find out the details of this stories, the author was faced with a complete lack of intelligible data. But something completely different emerged. It turns out that there is a serious suspicion that the plans for such a “deportation” were seriously nurtured by Jan Antonin Bata, one of the representatives of the famous dynasty of Czech shoe “kings”, the brother of its founder Tomas Bata Sr. (1876–1932).
Nazi shadow

After the tragic death of his brother in a plane crash, Jan Antonin headed a huge company. Times were hard: the economic crisis, the Munich agreement in 1938, the occupation of the Czech Republic in 1939 ... The businessman did everything possible to maintain the viability of the enterprise. Perhaps the Nazis hooked him on this hook, arresting Batya in the city of Marianske Lazne. The shoe magnate was released on the condition that he meet Hermann Göring in Berlin. The Reichsmarschall tried to convince Batya of the need for cooperation between his company and Germany. After this meeting, the "oligarch" decided to move away from sin, to the United States. A German manager appeared at the Batya factories in Zlín. The company throughout the war supplied the Wehrmacht not only with military footwear, but also with spare parts for submarines, V-1 and V-2 missiles. In the summer of 1939, the US press accused the Czech businessman of sympathizing with Nazism. The Allies blacklisted him as collaborating with the enemy and did not renew his American visa. Dad moved to Brazil.

No one knows for sure what exactly Jan Antonin was talking about in 1939 with Goering and other Nazi bosses. What later served as the basis for speculation - both in terms of the tycoon's sympathies in relation to the Nazi gang-watering can, and in connection with the notorious resettlement in Patagonia. The issue must be considered in a historical context: when the head of a shoe corporation was persuaded to cooperate in Germany in 1939, the Second World War had not yet begun, and no one knew how this whole story would end. There was a powerful Germany and a small Czech Republic, betrayed by the Western powers and conquered by the Germans. It is quite possible that Goering really hinted to Bath: soon there will be little space in the small Central European "clearing". On the map of the world there are a lot of uninhabited regions. There is no need to wait until the thunder breaks out, the fathers of the Czech nation need to be baptized right now.

Political ambitions

Jan Antonin Batya may have been flattered by this approach to business. He considered himself one of the pillars of Czech society. And even got into politics. In the second half of the 30s, for example, he bombarded the Czechoslovak president, Beneš, with projects to improve the country's road and rail networks and revive industry. When his advice was coldly rejected, Batya began to speak very critically about the head of state. They obviously didn't get along. Once, when meeting in London, a huge Batya slapped little Benesh on the shoulder: “My friend, together we can do a lot!” The President was offended and Bate said that he should "take better care of his shoes." In the deep autumn of 1938, after the capture of the Sudetenland by the Germans, the resignation and emigration of Benes Bata seriously thought about taking the vacant presidential seat.

But the shoe magnate was not a politician, but a practitioner. For selfish-capitalist reasons, it was not included in his plans that a future war would leave ashes and a mountain of corpses in the place of the Czech Republic. Here lived his skillful workers and his loyal customers; for the sake of preserving this invaluable for every business tycoon of the market, he was ready for anything. Perhaps even the creation of a working "plan-plan" for ... the movement of Czechs and Slovaks to South America, so as not to "crowd in Europe."

Criminal case

Since this story in the Czech apocryphal heritage is overgrown with so many conjectures, the author will try to stick only to the facts. And they are. On December 12, 1946, Czechoslovak law enforcement agencies opened a criminal case against Jan Bata. He was charged with, for example, "an attempt to forcibly change the Constitution of the Czechoslovak Republic." The investigation had in mind precisely his "plan for the resettlement of the Czech people in Patagonia."

This part of the indictment was based on a single letter that Jan Bata, during a business trip to Chile in 1941, allegedly sent to his secretary, Dr. Jiří Udřal. In the letter, the businessman spoke of a "great" plan to move the Czechoslovaks into regions stretching between Chile and Argentina. Secretary Udzhal, apparently, the beetle was still the same; he painstakingly accumulated dirt on the boss. The next two years, when the scales of the Second World War fluctuated, and it was not clear who would prevail in the war, Udrzhal kept the master's message a secret. But then, after Stalingrad and El Alamein, it became, in principle, clear that the Nazi veins were cut. And the secretary wrote to the son of the founder of the shoe empire, Tomas Bata Jr., who lived in Canada, a letter dated April 19, 1943. Where he told everything about the “insidious uncle-deporter”. The letter said that "the secret folder of Jan Antonin contained a map with the territory allotted for the future Czechoslovak state (in Patagonia - Auth.)". Udrzhal wrote: “There was a remark in the text: “I agreed with the leaders of the German people that they would support the resettlement plan.” This seriously shook my confidence in Jan Antonin Bata.”

Manuscripts do not burn

The plan, which, according to the secretary, contained 27 pages, was rewritten "for history" by his wife Adela Udrzhalova. The original was allegedly returned to Bata when he returned from Chile in the summer of 1941. The project consisted of two parts - a draft of propaganda lectures and a description of the possibilities for the economic use of Patagonia. Although Batya was not XNUMX% sure of Germany's victory, he certainly considered her participation in the enterprise in the first place. Therefore, the main place in the plan was assigned to the attitude towards the idea of ​​Berlin.

“Goering told me that we live in a German court, we must be aware of this and act in accordance with this,” the text of the Batev memorandum allegedly said. Of course, there is a lot of truth in this saying. We live in a German environment, even if we are talking about the recently Germanized Slavs, Silesians and Serbs ... But it is also obvious that ... the Czechoslovak nation survived and withstood the blows of all Asian hordes, while serving Germany as a buffer from the east ... "

Dad hits historical philosophizing: they say that it is the Czechs who are well aware of the "art of being a small people." From this it follows: the Czechs cannot be Germanized, "we are talking about a people who will hide their fists (read: figs - Auth.) for decades and, in the end, will break the German Reich in the same way as they destroyed Austria." “Thinking about all the possibilities,” writes Jan Bata, “I find only one solution. I am looking for a way out that would be in the interests of everyone and would not leave behind a sea of ​​hot blood ... The solution that I have in mind is the resettlement of the Czech and Slovak people to another continent. To a better environment, to better lands, to greater opportunities for free national development. I am ready to personally propose and… organize such a resettlement of the nation. In the event of victory, Hitler will not stop at any right of the Czech people to exist .. therefore, we must get ahead of events and find the best place on the globe and independently come up with such a project so that we have benefits, both moral and economic .. ."

Speaking about other belligerent powers (the USSR, apparently, was still out of the war at that moment and was not taken into account - Auth.), Yan Batya states: if the British lose, then they "will not have the opportunity to speak out about this." If things turn out differently, the British Empire will be able to benefit from the project: Czechoslovak Patagonia will become a tidbit where Albion can "get new territories, and territories very valuable, since they will be inhabited by a valuable people, consisting of people who are culturally, technically and economically developed ". The Czechoslovaks, in his opinion, would have nothing against the temporary English government, "considering it more of a guard than a citizenship."

$20 billion, 30 years

The US would have to participate in a grand "resettlement". According to the businessman, the reason for the war in Europe is "overpopulation". He calculated: the conduct of hostilities (at that time - helping the fighting Great Britain - Auth.) Costs America 36 billion dollars; for the resettlement of the Czechoslovak people, "only $ 20 billion" must be paid. Batya, as a specialist in the national economy, recommends dividing the amount between individual powers. Considering that Czechoslovakia will be able to participate in the $4 billion project. The resettlement, according to Bati, can be carried out in 30 years.

What was Baty's "Patagonian empire" supposed to look like? The industrialist wanted to start production in 25 industries at the first stage. The basis is, of course, shoe business; it was planned to tie a raw material base, mines, wood processing and aircraft manufacturing plants, chemical, cement and paper factories, shipyards and railway companies to it. In total, it was planned to create jobs for 340 thousand people.

Raise the Patagonian virgin soil

The movement of Czech and Slovak colonists, according to Bata's plan, was to take place in "waves". In the first, people released from concentration camps and landless peasants with their families would be displaced. Behind them are workers, artisans and merchants. The property could be sold. Practitioner Jan Bata gives a specific example: a hectare of arable land in the Czech Republic "flies away" for 30 thousand crowns, and in Patagonia for this money you can buy 5-10 hectares. Such a prospect allegedly could well seduce the Czechs. Batya describes in detail the most fruitful areas of Patagonia: from the Pacific side - the valleys of the Rio Palena, Puelo, Velho, from the Atlantic - the basins of the Rio Hubut, Rio Negro, Rio Genoa and other rivers. According to the plan, the "new Czechoslovakia" (or "Bateland") was to receive about 2000 islands, mostly rich in minerals. If we leave aside the geopolitical husk, then Jan Antonin was certainly interested in the colonization of free space by people who would strive for the life and work of pioneers in difficult conditions.

15 years with confiscation

In 1947, the Czechoslovak Prosecutor's Office drew up an indictment in the case of Jan Antonin Bati. Of course, the investigation failed to prove that his theses (even if they really were written by him - after all, no one except the Udrzhalovs saw the original) grew into something more serious than reflections on the "defeatist" topic.

In the verdict of the prosecutor's office, it was said that citizen Batya Ya. A. “by agreement with Hermann Goering, left for the USA in 1939; from there, by supplying raw materials to the occupied countries or directly to Germany, and also in other ways brought significant benefits to the enemy, "dissuaded workers from joining the Czechoslovak army," harmed the Czechoslovak defense power and allies, "condemned the victims of internal resistance, approved the actions of the occupiers and their servants; being a well-known industrialist, refused to join the resistance." The accusation was not very convincing, but the then justice, in which the communists set the tone, was guided primarily by political considerations. The court sentenced Batya in absentia to imprisonment in a special regime prison for 15 years; his property was confiscated. The condemnation of Jan Bata was very opportune: the largest Czech joint-stock company Batya, on the basis of decrees of President Beneš, had already been confiscated earlier. The verdict legitimized this dubious legal act.

Rehabilitation - posthumously

The rest of the days, Jan Antonin lived in Brazil, where he founded four towns (for example, Batagaussa and Bataipora) and was engaged in the same shoe production. He died in 1965 at the age of 67. He had 5 children. Three daughters - Lyudmila, Edita and Maria - came to their homeland in October 1991 to seek the rehabilitation of their father. Czech courts denied their complaints for 16 years. Only 60 years after the conviction of Jan Antonin, in November 2007, the Prague City Court took into account evidence that the convict during the war, it turns out, financed the London government in exile in millions of dollars and helped 300 Jewish families escape from the protectorate. The manufacturer's name was cleared; the court found that he was not a collaborator. The cold water of history shifted its thickness over his "Patagonian fantasies".
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  1. bask
    +6
    December 15 2012
    Although the Czechs were Slavs. But they were always against Russia together with the Poles. And until 1943 in military factories. The labor productivity of the Czechs was 1.5% higher than that of the Germans. Well, the Slav brothers worked for the Nazis. And some serious resistance to the occupiers -nat ... did not show.
    1. 22rus
      0
      December 15 2012
      Quote: bask
      The Czechs, although Slavic, have always been against Russia together with the Poles.

      And why should they be for Russia? They were not for the USSR and not for Germany, and even more so for some Slavs there. And by themselves. They didn't need this war. Therefore, they survived the situation as best they could. As a result, the country emerged from a steep European batch with relatively small losses both among its soldiers and among the civilian population.
      1. +2
        December 15 2012
        Quote: 22rus
        And why should they be for Russia? They were not for the USSR and not for Germany, and even more so for some Slavs there.


        And the Czechs have always "covered" everyone and everything, and therefore they are always under someone (romance), which cannot be said about the Slovaks. So this is a debatable issue. Although the main industry was mainly in the territory of today's Slovakia.
        1. 22rus
          0
          December 15 2012
          Quote: alexneg
          And the Czechs have always "covered" everyone and everything, and therefore they are always under someone (romance), which cannot be said about the Slovaks.

          That's just the Slovaks fought for the Germans and for ours.
      2. +2
        December 15 2012
        Quote: 22rus
        this war was not needed. Therefore, they survived the situation as best they could.

        Who needed her? Us, right?
        And it’s not worth putting the Czechs into an “asset” that they saved their soldiers and civilians. They saved their own, but what about those who were killed from the weapons made by the Czechs?
        1. 22rus
          0
          December 15 2012
          Quote: Bulls.
          Who needed her? Us, right?

          We (the people) do not. The ruling elite - yes. True, as always, they did not think that so it will turn out.

          Quote: Bulls.
          what about those who were killed from the weapons made by the Czechs?

          You are very worried about who is being killed and for what somewhere in Africa or the Middle East from a Kalashnikov assault rifle?
          1. +3
            December 15 2012
            Quote: 22rus
            Are you very worried about who and for what is being killed somewhere in Africa or the Middle East from a Kalashnikov assault rifle?

            In general, the fact that the Czechs during the war, working for Germany, made weapons from which they killed Soviet soldiers, you personally for yourself, do not see anything reprehensible? So what?
            And with all this, do you think the Czechs have every moral right to hate Russia? Did I understand you correctly?
        2. -4
          December 16 2012
          Quote: Bulls.
          But what about those who were killed from weapons made by the Czechs?

          In the service of the Wehrmacht, there were both ZIS-3 and F-22 (especially beloved), 45-ka, a-19, PTRS ... what about those who made this weapon, or may think about how it fell into the hands of the Wehrmacht and then blame the manufacturer.
          1. +2
            December 16 2012
            Quote: haron
            In the service of the Wehrmacht, there were both ZIS-3 and F-22 (especially beloved), 45-ka, a-19, PTRS ... what about those who made this weapon, or may think about how it fell into the hands of the Wehrmacht and then blame the manufacturer.

            Trophies obtained in battle are one thing, and another is PURPOSED and SPECIALLY MADE for them in the Czech Republic.
            Do you understand the difference at all?
      3. Baboon
        +5
        December 15 2012
        And the Czechs have always surrendered to everyone, and let them rejoice that the USSR won, Hitler, certainly the territory of the Czech Republic, would have cleared the Czechs themselves.
    2. Kaa
      +10
      December 15 2012
      Quote: bask
      The Czechs, although Slavic. But they were always against Russia together with the Poles. And until 1943 in military factories

      CZECH MILITARY FACTORIES WORKED FOR THE WEhrmacht BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF WORLD WAR II AND UNTIL MAY 5, 1945.
      “Already during the Polish campaign, the Wehrmacht used a whole tank hull equipped with the latest Czech LT-38 tanks. mm howitzer, 1939 254 mm cannons, 75 241 mm mortars and over two thousand anti-tank guns of 80 mm and 261 mm caliber. thousands of easel ZB-150s, fortunately, these machine guns (like the Czechoslovak Mauser rifles) were created for the German 10-mm cartridge.
      With the arrival of the Germans, the plant of the Skoda concern in Mladá Boleslav also revived, which until 1939 produced cars and barely made ends meet ... The plant's program included a car designed for operation in the Russian cold climate and off-road conditions. It was an artillery tractor with all leading and rear steered steel wheels with a diameter of 1,5 m with high metal lugs. Until May 1944, 206 copies were collected. The Skoda factories also assembled 5 Hkl6 (Sd.Kfz.11) half-tracked transporters, produced DB10 tanks and tractors under the S10 index. According to the Center for the German War Economy, on March 31, 1944 alone, the Fuhrer received almost 857 billion 13 million brands of weapons and equipment from the workshops of 866 factories of the previously annexed Czech Republic. 1939-1942 produced LT-38 tanks in the amount of 1480 pieces. When this tank was hopelessly outdated, the plant's specialists, IN INITIATIVE ORDER, took up its conversion into an anti-tank self-propelled guns. In total, 1944 Hetzer tank destroyers were produced in 1945 and 2584. In 1944, she MONTHLY shipped 30 thousand rifles, 3 thousand machine guns, 625 thousand artillery shells to Germany. The Škoda factories in Pilsen and the Mürz zuschlag-Bohemia in Česká Lipa produced Sd.Kfz 251/1 Ausf.С and Sd.Kfz/251-1 Ausf D armored personnel carriers; assembly of Messerschmitt Bf 109G-6 and Bf 109G-14 fighters. The hands of the Czechs assembled a quarter of all tanks, 26 percent of trucks and 40 percent of small arms of the German army... http://govorilkin.livejournal.com/524582.html
    3. pakukr
      -2
      December 15 2012
      And the Russian idiots erected a monument to the Czech legionnaires in Chelyabinsk. It can be seen that these Czechs betrayed Kolchak to the Bolsheviks and stole part of Russia's gold reserves. Truly, the Russians themselves will defile their history, they don’t even need external enemies.
      1. Kaa
        +4
        December 15 2012
        Quote from pakukr
        stole part of Russia's gold reserves

        "At the end of November 1918, the gold reserves of the Russian Empire were moved to Omsk under the protection of the Czechoslovak Corps and placed at the disposal of the Kolchak government. According to preliminary data, 657 million rubles of gold were seized in Kazan, however, only 651 million rubles were found when re-counting in Omsk. On On this basis, some sources claim that the missing six million were stolen by the Czechs.
        “The Czechoslovaks took the gold reserves of Russia in Kazan and handed it over to the Bolsheviks in Irkutsk along with Kolchak at the end of their journey. For this gold and for Kolchak, they could leave peacefully through Vladivostok and return home. In addition to the missing six million after the journey of gold from Omsk to Irkutsk, another 4-5 million were missing. According to one version, these 4-5 million were also taken by the Czechs. In support of this version, there is a letter from the future President Benes to the command of the legion, in which he expresses interest in "purchasing gold and other precious metals." Another reason for this version is that the legionnaires who returned to their homeland founded their own bank - Legiobank, which became one of the largest banks in Czechoslovakia. http://www.radio.cz/ru/rubrika/progulki/carya-ne-spasli-zoloto-ukrali
  2. Volkhov
    +6
    December 15 2012
    Hitler was then building the Horst Wessel base in southern Chile and he needed a vassal industrial area nearby for the future, it would not be the SS themselves who would sew boots for themselves - so the Czechs were invited.
  3. Lech e-mine
    +5
    December 15 2012
    During the Second World War, the entire Czech industry worked for HITLER in full swing.
    CZECH tanks, machine guns, shells - all this mass of weapons was directed against our fathers and grandfathers.
    In general, the Czechs live on their own, and from time to time the neighbors have an irresistible desire to bite off a piece of territory from them.
  4. +5
    December 15 2012
    Hitler wanted a lot. But the Czechs were traitors to the Slavs, they were not for the Nazis.
    1. +1
      December 15 2012
      Quote: Deniska999
      But the Czechs were traitors to the Slavs, they were not for the Nazis.

      It is a pity that this unfortunate fact does not have the proper information "promotion".
      Unlike the events of the 68 year, you will see much of what happened, then, there in Prague, it would become clearer.
  5. +2
    December 15 2012
    What is interesting is that such thoughts about resettlement and our "Goerings" are sometimes visited - like the idea of ​​​​giving reserve officers apartments in Eastern Siberia - they say we will increase the population and throw in intelligence!
  6. +7
    December 15 2012
    interesting article. Relocate Czechs or don’t relocate, but the result is the same
  7. vic011
    +3
    December 15 2012
    And now their youth considers Hitler a savior, and Russian invaders...
    There is no gratitude, only complaints. negative
    1. -4
      December 15 2012
      Not only our youth, but everyone else considers the Germans and the USSR after 1968 to be occupiers. The situation in Czechoslovakia in 1968 had to be solved, but not with tanks.
      1. -3
        December 16 2012
        Quote: hrad
        The situation in Czechoslovakia in 1968 had to be solved, but not with tanks.

        Well, how do you imagine, so that the population (the people) would decide in what form the messiah would come to him. It's scary.
      2. Baboon
        +1
        December 16 2012
        I’ll answer you honestly (I + put you if I don’t see any reason to put minuses here), it’s always been like this with the Czech Republic - Germany came - all the Czech Republic under Germany, the Austrians came - everything under them, the USSR came - under the USSR, and a single came Europe is all under Europe. Let's compare the Serbs with you, I personally do not have love for them, and the Serbs loved Russia only when it was hard for them, but they lost 1/5 of the male population for the sake of Serbia! And the Czechs? gave up immediately and okay!
  8. +3
    December 15 2012
    Interesting article. I did not know this page of history at all. I only knew that "Batya" shoes are cool. And here is such a project ... Comparable to the project of a tunnel from the Czech Republic to the Adriatic coast.
  9. +5
    December 15 2012
    It seems that only we are tearing the anus for the Slavic brotherhood when we lived in the Czechs, the Czechs said about the WWII that you Russian fools fought with the Germans, but we don’t and almost no one died in our country and indeed there are also monuments to the victims of the Second World War as it is written 7 people died 9 people died. In general, everything is as always Vanka brings happiness to everyone, only he cannot convey to himself
    1. -3
      December 15 2012
      I somehow didn’t hear us say: “they say you Russian fools fought with the Germans, but we didn’t.” Crap, uncle!
      Try to find in open sources how many Czechoslovaks fought against Hitler and how many of them died. Although you do not need such information for free. Wouldn't suit your understanding of the world
      Watching the forum is turning into a forum of Slavic chauvinists. Lord! And in Russia, blood has long been mixed. Now in Russia, the Russian is the same 100 percent Slav, just like Goebels is 100 percent Aryan. Take a look in the mirror! Maybe you yourself will see that only one surname remains from the Slavs
      1. 0
        December 17 2012
        Hrad "I see the forum is turning into a forum of Slavic chauvinists. Gentlemen! And in Russia, blood has been mixed for a long time. Now in Russia, the Russian is the same 100 percent Slav as Goebels is 100 percent Aryan. Look in the mirror! Maybe you yourself will see that only Slavs are only surnames remain
        Maybe you're right about something. But in any case, we are far from you. Already your Czech Republic who just did not crawl.
    2. +1
      December 15 2012
      Quote: Tambourine 2012
      It seems that only we tear the anus for the Slavic brotherhood when we lived in the Czechs, the Czechs said about the WWII they say you Russian fools fought with the Germans, but we don’t and almost no one died

      Are you confusing something, the Czechs resisted Hitler, otherwise why would the Germans burn Czech towns and villages? Remember Lidice, I was there, all the buildings were destroyed, all the men too, women and children were sent to a concentration camp, and the uprising in Prague in May 45th ...
      1. Baboon
        0
        December 17 2012
        Well, yes, but in 1938, for some reason, they didn’t do anything, when Germany didn’t have so many weapons, and I can’t imagine how Germany in 1938 could fight against not the weak army of the Czech Republic, but in 1945, of course, when everything is already clear it was possible to raise an uprising.
  10. mr.poops
    +4
    December 15 2012
    in my understanding, "Czechs" is almost "Germans", another thing. Slovaks they really have something left of the Slavs ...
    1. Baboon
      +1
      December 15 2012
      Interestingly, but in the understanding of the Germans themselves, how? I don't think they think the same way.
      1. +1
        December 15 2012
        Oh, this Eurora. Shared it shared...
        The state of Tschecho-Slowakei was formed in 1918 with the collapse of the state of Österreich-Ungarns after the First World War.
        Accordingly, A. Hitler did not really consider the history of Tschecho-Slowakei.

        http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/1800/de_index.html
        http://www.posselt-landkarten.de/index_ostgebiete.htm
        http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.de/koenigreich_preussen.htm
      2. +3
        December 15 2012
        I don’t know what the Germans think ... But they are, perhaps, genetically closer to us today than the Czechs ... I risk picking up minuses, but over the 3 years of occupation, their soldiers managed to do something ... And our GSVG managed a lot of things .. In some cities there were more of ours than Germans, and the Germans liked Russian soldiers ... In general, of the Slavs, only Belarusians, Serbs, Ukrainians, Montenegrins are close to us, that's probably all ..
  11. maxiv1979
    0
    December 15 2012
    Czechs? and who are they? all their lives they grovel before any power, like the Serbs and look at the powers that be, did we do the right thing, dad?)
    1. -2
      December 15 2012
      Reptiles, you say? However, the occupiers do not stay here for long.
      1. +4
        December 15 2012
        I respect the Czechs. Conscientious hard workers and not bad warriors ... I remember we already apologized for 68 years .. But I think there were many to blame for these events ... both ours and the Americans had a hand in ... The struggle of two systems ... I wonder if tomorrow in Forces will appear in the Czech Republic that will conduct propaganda for leaving the NATO bloc and the EU, they will be allowed to do this ...... Of course, today you are a "free country" in decision-making, you are independent, you do not serve anyone ... but who They will let you go ... Try it and get 68 years from a completely different absolutely "democratic" country ...
        1. +2
          December 15 2012
          The National Bank of Slovakia planned to mark the “1150th anniversary of the beginning of the mission of Saints Cyril and Methodius in Great Moravia” by issuing 2-euro coins depicting the saints. However, representatives of the European Commission opposed their free circulation due to the fact that the coins "contravene the principle of religious neutrality" enshrined in the Charter of the European Union, writes the magazine Russian Germany.
          "Certain countries", as follows from the statement, protested the design of the Slovak coins because of the depiction of religious symbols. According to the member of the European Parliament from Germany Martin Kastler, such claims were made by France and Greece.
          The fact that the issue of Slovak coins, scheduled for the first half of 2013, will face opposition from "individual countries", became known last summer. In this regard, the National Bank of Slovakia adjusted the design of the coins, depriving Saints Cyril and Methodius of haloes. However, as it turned out later, this did not satisfy the critics at all, who demanded to remove the image of the double cross, which is part of the state emblem and one of the official symbols of Slovakia. It is curious that the double cross, depicted on the Slovak kopeck pieces, did not previously cause any complaints. According to some reports, the position of Greece on this issue is connected precisely with the fact that supposedly “Greek saints” are depicted with a “Slovak cross”.
          As a result, the National Bank of Slovakia, contrary to the position of the European Commission and "individual countries", decided to mint coins with a halo and a double cross. “The Board of the Bank approved the initial design of the coins, despite the fact that the approval process may lead to the fact that the circulation of coins will be limited,” the bank said in a statement.
          Telegrafist.RF believes that Slovakia's price for joining the European Union is the renunciation not only of sovereignty, but also of national traditions. As practice shows, in order to preserve its roots, the state needs independence.
          1. 0
            December 16 2012
            Quote: MstislavHrabr
            According to the member of the European Parliament from Germany Martin Kastler, such claims were made by France and Greece.

            What is not clear with this France is going on. It is now like an icebreaker of multiculturalism in Europe. And as usual, butting with the Germans.
      2. Baboon
        0
        December 16 2012
        Here, convince me that the invaders. The occupiers are usually rebuffed, but there was no such thing from the Czech Republic, so they are not occupiers, but forced allies. And Czechs. In my opinion. don't care who to work for!
  12. sapulid
    +4
    December 15 2012
    Let's start with the Gold Reserve of the Russian Empire, stolen by the Czechoslovak Corps? Can we start with the Empire of Charlemagne?

    Damn, how many times to repeat that we have no "brothers" anywhere. We have only our own interests with their corresponding temporary allies.

    Then there are fewer empty hopes and resentments.
    1. +4
      December 15 2012
      Quote: sapulid
      We have only our own interests with their corresponding temporary allies.

      Then there are fewer empty hopes and resentments.


      In short, both in Hungary and Czechoslovakia, the cause of well-known events was the desire of the USSR to deploy tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of these countries in response to the deployment of NATO tactical nuclear weapons. It is known that in 1960 the United States began to deploy nuclear missiles in Europe and Asia - 60 Thor missiles in the UK , 30 Jupiter rockets in Italy and 15 Jupiter rockets in Turkey. In response, the USSR decided to deploy its nuclear missiles (40 launchers for SS-4 and SS-5 missiles plus 162 atomic bombs for Il-28 bombers) in Cuba. As a result, the Caribbean crisis brought the world to the brink of nuclear war.
      And Hungary and Czechoslovakia were ideally suited for these purposes, but there were no Soviet troops on the territory of Czechoslovakia at that time, so a reason was needed for them to appear there, the West naturally tried in every possible way to prevent this, including by the method of generating "orange revolutions" in its style. At that time, if it were not for the need for tactical nuclear weapons, no troops would have been sent there, all these revolutions would have been suppressed without the help of Soviet troops.
      1. Brother Sarych
        +1
        December 15 2012
        Doubtful, to be honest...
        1. +2
          December 16 2012
          Quote: Brother Sarich
          Doubtful, to be honest...


          precisely in order to fulfill the terms of the treaty on the nonproliferation of nuclear weapons and deploy our nuclear weapons on the territory of the Czechoslovakia in response to the US deployment of its nuclear weapons in the countries of Western Europe to restore parity, troops were sent in because proliferation of nuclear weapons is its transfer to third countries and its deployment on the territory of the country where there are troops of the USSR and under their jurisdiction is not a distribution and since Czechoslovakia was the only ATS country where there were no USSR troops, it was precisely to fulfill the terms of the agreement that both the United States and the USSR jealously followed and the ATS troops were introduced, including the contingent of the USSR troops, and it was on this option to restore parity that he was obviously forced agree US President Johnson in his negotiations with General Secretary Brezhnev
      2. Volkhov
        -3
        December 15 2012
        Quote: Ascetic
        in Hungary and Czechoslovakia, the cause of well-known events was the desire of the USSR to deploy tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of these countries

        There were simply not enough atomic bombs in 56, the R1 and R2 missiles did not fly far, for the R5 there was only a "dirty" BG, why place it there?
        And the Nazi agents in Hungary, the emergency was full, the Nazis created Cuba in general, so they carried out Hitler's directive to push the Allies together, because. only this allowed the Reich to come out of hiding.
        The KGB is strongly against the collective farmers, and against the Germans it plays a giveaway or is simply subordinated since the time of Beria.
        1. +1
          December 16 2012
          In 1966 on the territory of Czechoslovakia, three storage facilities for nuclear warheads were built in Bilin, Vrh Bele and
          Mishov-Borovo. The storage facilities were serviced by units of the 12th Main Directorate of the USSR Ministry of Defense. Control
          for their use by Czechoslovakia was carried out by the representative of the Ministry of Defense of Czechoslovakia at the Main
          nom command of the countries of the Warsaw Pact. In addition to nuclear warheads, tactical
          and operational-tactical missiles (TR and OTR) there were also 152-mm shells in nuclear
          nom performance and aviation ammunition. Some of them also stored nuclear warheads,
          which were to be transferred in the event of the outbreak of hostilities in part of the combat
          the use of allied countries under the Warsaw Pact. The vaults were emptied during
          the first stage of the withdrawal of troops and handed over to the Czech representatives on July 1, 1990.
          In June 1968, the long-discussed Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons was signed, according to which these storages and ammunition could not be used by the Czechoslovak army (as a third party under the Treaty). hence the need to deploy Soviet troops on the territory of Czechoslovakia, which was so opposed by its leadership.
    2. +1
      December 15 2012
      Quote: sapulid
      Damn, how many times to repeat that we have no "brothers" anywhere. We have only our own interests with their corresponding temporary allies.

      Well, you’re right Churchill, he also said, England has no permanent allies, England has only her interests. Something like this...
  13. maxiv1979
    +1
    December 15 2012
    Quote: sapulid
    Damn, how many times to repeat that we have no "brothers" anywhere. We have only our own interests with their corresponding temporary allies.


    I agree completely, it's time to write a book like "Brothers of Russians and how they prick them")
  14. 0
    December 15 2012
    The wonderful Czech shoe factory CEBO, whose shoes were loved and appreciated in the USSR and in all CMEA countries, is the nationalized and renamed BATYA factory. The shoe king Batya himself, as luminaries and veterans of the shoe industry told me, kept a special worker who broke in shoes for him. Although, as for me, it was CEBO's shoes that always fit me.
  15. mamba
    0
    December 17 2012
    It is quite possible that Goering really hinted to Bata: soon there will be little space in the small Central European “clearing”. On the map of the world there are a lot of uninhabited regions. There is no need to wait until the thunder breaks out, the fathers of the Czech nation need to be baptized right now.
    Kind of weird. Before the start of World War II, Goering hints that the Reich does not need the Czechs. Like, get out of here before it's too late. Is it in him "philanthropy" jumped? But what about German practicality? Who will "forge victory" for the Reich?
    In the event of victory, Hitler will not stop at any right of the Czech people to exist .. therefore, we must get ahead of events and find the best place on the globe and independently come up with such a project so that we have a benefit, both moral and economic.
    The Czechs still had no illusions about the future of the "goose that lays golden eggs". But it's foolish to miss out on the benefits. Bottom line: we will make money on the Nazis, and then we will dump. And if we do not have time to jump off, and even the Russians win, then they will not offend us, but we will lie under them.
    We live in a German environment, even if we are talking about the recently Germanized Slavs, Silesians and Serbs ... But it is also obvious that ... the Czechoslovak nation survived and withstood the blows of all Asian hordes, while serving Germany as a buffer from the east ...
    The main thing here is not even that Russia falls into the category of Asian departments, but the words "serving Germany as a buffer from the east"! But the classic policy of Czechoslovakia at that time was playing on the contradictions between the great powers as long as they allowed it. But for Czechoslovakia, this always ended with another spreading of the legs, relaxation and enjoyment.

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