The disturbing sound of silence... Again about the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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The disturbing sound of silence... Again about the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

More and more often the press raises the question of why our Aerospace Forces do not strike at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on various sectors of the front. For me personally, it is completely clear that those who put the question in this way are most often from the “winners”, i.e. those who have already defeated the Armed Forces of Ukraine, prevented the onset of crests and now decide which city we will take first.

And everything is “wrapped” beautifully. The Russian Aerospace Forces do not strike at units and subunits of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the LBS simply because Ukrainian soldiers are hiding in cities.



And for humanitarian reasons we are forced to use precision bombs and missiles. Which significantly reduces the effect of the bombings.

The same units and subunits of the Ukrainian Armed Forces that are on the LBS, we keep our artillerymen under fire control. This is precisely what explains the fact that, in general, no serious actions are taking place on the line of contact.

The parties locally carry out tactical operations, most often aimed at capturing some kind of defensive midfielder or some positions. Alas, but in many respects this opinion is based on the feelings and experience of previous battles. It's clear.

Everyone knows about Mariupol or Bakhmut. That's where the opinion comes from. There are no moral boundaries for crests, which means they will act the same way in other areas. Only here such an opinion is not friendly with logic. We are talking about the offensive, but we mean defense.

But those brigades that were prepared for the offensive have not gone away. They are there and ready to attack. And they are not sitting in warm and comfortable "winter apartments", but in the immediate rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Literally in one transition from LBS.

And they are located according to all the rules of military science. They are dispersed, not concentrated in some places. Yes, some units are located in populated areas, but this is only part of the main forces.

Why don't we bomb future "offensives"?


Any gunner or pilot knows that there are different types of targets. Accordingly, various ammunition is used to destroy such targets. If you carefully read the reports from the RF Ministry of Defense, you will notice an almost traditional phrase - “we struck with high-precision weapons».

We know perfectly well where and how many Ukrainian troops are today. For example, the strength of the group in the Bakhmut direction is about 80 thousand people. At the same time, there were only 40 thousand people in Zaporozhye.

We also know about other directions that are conditionally related to us. Again, for example, in Transnistrian. So the goals, if there is a need and the opportunity to beat them, are enough. But there is one very important issue.

Those who have read our material on the first stage of a strategic offensive know that the main task of this stage is to identify weak points in the enemy's defense and break through in this particular place. Alas, for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, this task was not completed. Moreover, the enemy "exchanged" the fortified area in the city of Bakhmut for several kilometers of fields. In other places, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were forced to crawl back to their previously occupied positions.

So, today it is doubtful that the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has made a final decision on the place where the offensive will begin. Even despite Zelensky’s statement. The fact that in the spring of this year Ukrainians It is clear that they intended to repeat the option that had already been used last fall.

Several strikes from different directions, a panic transfer of Russian units to the "main direction" and a blow in another place. It didn't grow. The nerves of our generals were strong.

Let's get back to goals.

Precision weapons are used to destroy point targets. Such targets are warehouses, locations of military units, military factories and repair shops, bridges, railway junctions, and so on. What are we doing today. Reducing the possibilities of logistics and additional build-up of forces in some areas.

At the same time, those who carefully read war correspondents from the SVO zone have noticed other messages that sometimes slip through there. Something like: “Ukrainian units preparing to attack were spotted in time by our intelligence and destroyed by strikes artillery и aviation"...

Those who "can read" are well aware that these are the same strikes against a different type of targets. By areas, by area targets, which are accumulations of enemy manpower and equipment.

This is not humanism, although you can talk about it, this is the usual law of war. Destruction of the enemy "in the field" requires much less effort and resources than destruction in populated areas ...

This option is also not newly invented. This is already forgotten by many "yesterday". Our troops acted in much the same way during the withdrawal from Kherson. The Armed Forces of Ukraine act in much the same way when moving away from their defensive midfielders in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Roads are pre-mined and targeted. And then the artillery works very effectively.

What's next?


Once again I write the same thing. The war machine, once it is running, is almost impossible to stop. There will be a Ukrainian offensive. And the silence that many complain about is actually far from silence. This is the time when the fiercest battles are going on in separate sections of the LBS. I repeat, fierce fighting!

The intelligence of both sides is working in full. Saboteurs too. Shooting and tank units conduct reconnaissance in combat constantly. In the same Kherson direction, a huge number of boats are concentrated for the quick crossing of armored vehicles to the left bank. Figuratively speaking, as they write in the credits of movies - "disturbing music sounds."

Again, I repeat, I believe that the main blow will be delivered precisely in the south. Not where the bulk of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is now located, but where the distances are shorter and the possibilities for quickly replenishing the attackers with manpower and weapons are higher. The coast provides such an opportunity. Even though the Black Sea fleet Russia will try to block this logistical route. Ukraine has long had quite effective anti-ship missiles.

The question arises as to how far the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to advance?

I don't have an exact answer. There are too many components that do not help, but rather interfere with the analysis. Yes, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

LBS in any war is not a constant, but a constantly changing value. Such changes are characteristic of SVO in general. Again, thanks to Mariupol and Bakhmut. One hundred meters there, one hundred meters here...

I have a completely new feeling. By the way, I feel about the same feelings in interviews with the participants of the NWO. Although many of them cannot yet formulate it. This is the same desire to move forward that arises before an offensive. When the legs itch, the eyes look into the distance when the body wants a fight.

Preparing for defense, we plan to attack! Moreover, to attack in such a way that by the end of the summer campaign to free most of the Left Bank. There are prerequisites for this. It remains to maintain the potential of the army. Preserve personnel and weapons during defensive battles.

The actions of the same musicians and other units, which became famous precisely as assault ones, are pushing me to the same thought. Using attack aircraft for defense is extremely wasteful, let them rest and “lick their wounds”.

People are stronger than metal, but still the possibilities of people are limited. But then, when the time comes to move forward, these people will be very useful. It is those who know how to take cities that will be needed ...
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  1. +2
    2 June 2023 03: 45
    The disturbing sound of silence... Again about the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Or about a boy who liked to shout: “Wolves! Wolves!
    1. +10
      2 June 2023 04: 55
      The calm before the storm. Before the storm. I noticed it too.

      The main thing is that this calm should be before the Bagration operation, and not before the Brest peace ...
      1. +13
        2 June 2023 05: 35
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        The main thing is that this calm should be before the Bagration operation, and not before the Brest peace ...


        There was no calm before the Brest Peace. And after that, he was gone for a few more years.
      2. +3
        2 June 2023 09: 28
        so that this calm was before the operation "Bagration", and not before the Brest peace ...
        Which of the two? Prisoners of the UNR or the Soviet Republic. Yes, Operation Bagration was carried out by Soviet troops, not the troops of the Central Rada laughing
    2. +2
      3 June 2023 16: 16
      To give a brazen head to these hapozhora-military corps and some media.
  2. +18
    2 June 2023 04: 00
    Well, it is possible that just those who command the army have not learned how to fight, they plan their actions not according to the events around them, but according to instructions from above. The second, and more dangerous reason is the excessive politicization of the leadership of the country and the army, where you need to be tougher, first there is an eye on the notorious "partners." And the third, most dangerous thing in the war, is the selfish interests of the oligarchs. Therefore, the launch of a methane pipeline is more expensive than an offensive? Deliveries of oil and gas under contracts to countries that give weapons and ammunition to Ukraine against us, and fuel for the army of Ukraine is driven from our oil. In a war, you need to fight without looking back at someone and fight hard. The Kremlin has not yet understood this.
    1. -8
      2 June 2023 11: 57
      only idiots can think that the sale of oil and gas to Europe is evil and we must refuse ourselves
      1. +8
        2 June 2023 12: 15
        Sell ​​me a weapon with which I will send you to the next world - nothing personal for you, just business? Don't give up, you're not an idiot. Or in relation to you personally, "it's different"?
        1. 0
          3 June 2023 16: 17
          Quote: JD1979
          Sell ​​me a weapon with which I will send you to the next world - nothing personal for you, just business? Don't give up, you're not an idiot. Or in relation to you personally, "it's different"?

          Are you sure you know something about the economy of war? Or do you want to pay for it from your own pocket?
  3. +3
    2 June 2023 04: 01
    It seems to me that now the Armed Forces of Ukraine are ready to strike anywhere. Just to show the owners usefulness. It hurts a lot Zelya is shoved in the ass "go ahead." Need ukram any positive offensive, and where is not so important.
  4. +10
    2 June 2023 04: 21
    In Russia, everything has always been sacrificed to politics, and to the most stupid, idiotic politics at that. Both the Russian Empire and the USSR broke their necks on this.

    The reason was also clear long ago. Back in the 19th century: This is the absolute absence of the "political element" in our society. The country has always been ruled by small groups. Our main political slogan has always been simply flawed: "Who else?"...

    As pet A. Maikov wrote:
    "Just a few families
    They own my country."

    To be like this is Fate, and a sad one at that.
    1. +1
      2 June 2023 19: 12
      Yes, the whole world is ruled by 2-3 groups
  5. -13
    2 June 2023 04: 40
    Explanatory. You can also add that how to trample the offensive, but here I agree with the author - it will be, they have nowhere to go, the alternative is a complete scam from the owners for not following the order, the United States said in plain text many times - "no offensive - no weapons ".

    And during the offensive, any - we will have losses, both in people and in positions occupied, this is not a shootout between the Behemoth cat and the NKVD officers, when no one gets anywhere ...
    But the advantage is that they, the suckers, are driven into a narrow framework - the offensive ONLY to the south, with the cutting of the land corridor to the Crimea - the suckers do not decide anything here, they were ordered. And from here and back in the fall, the predicted attempts to divert attention precisely in the north, right now - in the Belgorod region ... This is already a loss when the enemy is confident in your plans, but it’s simply impossible to change them
    1. +7
      2 June 2023 09: 01
      It took nine months to take Bakhmut. Finally, we took it. Ukrainians In response, they began to storm the border area. Note that they are storming with a company and a platoon of a couple of tanks. And our people, 20 in number, courageously repel them until Lapin gallops up.
    2. +7
      2 June 2023 14: 45
      A year ago, everyone knew too ... they were ready for anything ... and we know how it ended
      1. +3
        3 June 2023 02: 32
        Why are there no preventive strikes? Worn, but in small quantities. There is only one reason: there is no accurate intelligence data and a quick reaction to the destruction of detected targets has not been established - a long chain of bureaucracy is still on the way from detecting a target, classifying it and ending with an order to destroy it. Well, intelligence is absolutely not enough.
        1. -4
          3 June 2023 17: 18
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Why are there no preventive strikes? Worn, but in small quantities. There is only one reason: there is no accurate intelligence data and about.
          Why do we need precise data? To iron out all the cities so that no stone is left on any stone. Then it will be precise.
  6. +23
    2 June 2023 04: 48
    Russia has already lost this war, a year ago, when it became clear that the cavalry charge did not work. Now the only question that is being decided is how catastrophic the defeat is.
    The ideal option is that the Russian Armed Forces reach the Polish border by the end of the year. Anti-globalists come to power in several Western countries and lift sanctions for the sake of their countries' economies and energy. Is everything all right? Not at all. The Russian Federation gets a devastated territory with bombed-out infrastructure and industry, and they themselves were the ones who bombed it - what can you do, it's war. And the people there need to be given work, and in terms of pay they will compare it with Moscow and St. Petersburg, and not with a godforsaken regional center in the Non-Black Earth Region. And if you don't like the comparison, expect yellow-blue rags hung on towers at night, and if only that were all - there will also be blown-up rails, village councils and fuel bases set on fire, tortured administrators who agreed to work with the Russian Federation, in general, everything is like in Western Ukraine in the late 1940s - early 1950s. Only now there is no Stalin or Beria.
    And they will also hate Russia, quietly or even not so quietly. All those who have lost their relatives, loved ones, friends. Who have lost their home and/or livelihood. And you can't prove to them that their loved one was raked into the grave by Banderovites, and their house was destroyed by a missile launched by clumsy Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners. They are guilty anyway. curse the Moscow. Even in the Russian-speaking southeast. Especially there, because that's where they're raking in the graves the most, while the Westerners were spared until recently - of course, the golden gene pool of Ukrainians. And the military actions are primarily destroying the once pro-Russian left bank.
    And this is the ideal option. I don't even want to consider other options.
    The West, by the way, also lost. Even if sanctions were lifted tomorrow, and cheap Russian oil, gas, timber, and whatever else would flood the market, inflation would not be recouped. And reputational losses have already occurred, and as Pugacheva almost said in a song, "It is impossible to turn mincemeat back, and you cannot restore meat from it."
    And Ukraine... what about Ukraine? It is not a subject, but an object in this process.
    The only one who profited is China. And it will profit even more by helping "to achieve a lasting and just peace."
    1. +10
      2 June 2023 05: 30
      Quote: Nagan
      And they will hate Russia, quietly or even not very quietly.

      Already hate!
      1. +2
        2 June 2023 21: 19
        Already hate!

        Why not? And they will really hate most of all, just in the former pro-Russian southeast. Especially - in the Donbass.
    2. +14
      2 June 2023 05: 36
      It is absolutely true that the USSR, with its tightly closed borders, powerful special services and considerable support from the local population, dealt with the Bandera underground for a decade and a half, and in the Baltics for even longer.
    3. +6
      2 June 2023 08: 44
      Why do you all suffer so much that our government will not be loved in the annexed Ukraine?
      In Ingushetia or the Far East, they were also dissatisfied with the authorities, in Kazan and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug they were dissatisfied with the Quarcodes, did anyone care? All over the country now they do not really like the authorities, because of the pension reform, forced vaccination and the controversial SVO. Also because of the invasion and the behavior of Gaster.
      So what?
      Why is it only because of the feelings of Ukrainians that you need to worry, the feelings of the rest do not care?
      1. +3
        2 June 2023 09: 37
        Quote: Stinging_Nettle
        Why is it only because of the feelings of Ukrainians that you need to worry, the feelings of the rest do not care?

        Because of this dislike, we will have to, as in the old days, dig out the remaining Banderites from their hiding places for years. And the more of this dislike, the more support there will be from the local population for the Banderites, and the more losses for the Russian Federation. Or do you not care?
        1. +1
          3 June 2023 16: 23
          From what caches? Why are you hysterical, like a schoolboy? For your information, in the Khmelnytsky region, the last UNA soldier left for the POM in 1982 in the village of Cherche. And in the Rivne region, even in 1986. There were no relatives left to feed them - so they left. My boss served in Veretye. We were at interspecific exercises in the BSSR, and on a farm sat an old man who served as a policeman for the Germans. He sat in a swamp for 26 years.
    4. +7
      2 June 2023 16: 10
      The only one who profited is China

      You forgot the states. To whom did the lion's share of the grandmas allocated by them go? His own military-industrial complex, plus orders from gay Europeans.
      1. +5
        2 June 2023 18: 51
        Quote: Olegi1
        You forgot the states.

        How can I forget the country I live in? A few companies may have made money, but the country as a whole has lost. The dollar has depreciated by about 30% on average since the sanctions were announced. And some product categories, particularly building materials, have almost doubled. In short, sanctions are a double-edged sword.
        1. +1
          3 June 2023 06: 20
          What bothers me the most is the transformation of the so-called opinion about the "brotherly Ukrainian people." Where did it all start? And from the fact that someone decided to liberate the Ukrainian people, he is oppressed by Bendera. Like we will come, we will drive out the Nazis, we will choose a loyal government and it will be nishtyak and we will all live happily in the "Russian world". And suddenly it turned out, literally a month later, that no one in Ukraine needed the "Russian world" and Ukrainians see their development path only together with the EU. And what are we? And we immediately changed our minds about the "fraternal people", now almost everyone says that in Ukraine there are only Benderites and it is necessary to take a bite of them with nuclear weapons and generally eliminate Ukraine as a state. How! Eliminate! This immediately begs the question: if so, since now there are only Nazis, then why here, all this? If there is no one to "liberate" from the Nazis, are all Nazis? Some immediately suggested - to flicker with thermonuclear missiles - and there is no Nazi country and there is no need for SVO .. (sarcasm) ....
          1. -2
            3 June 2023 16: 24
            Not everyone needs it there. Secondly, your generation of the Unified State Examination has forgotten how to read between the lines.
    5. +2
      3 June 2023 10: 01
      There is no image of victory - there is no motivation to fight for it.
    6. +3
      3 June 2023 13: 33
      The ideal option is that the RF Armed Forces will reach the Polish border before the end of the year.
      - or even to the English Channel laughing Idealize - so to the fullest!
    7. +4
      3 June 2023 14: 05
      there will still be undermined rails, village councils and fuel bases set on fire, tortured administrators who agreed to work with the Russian Federation, in general, everything is like in Western Ukraine in the late 1940s and early 1950s.
      Without outside support, no "partisan" movement is possible. At the time you indicated, Bandera and the Baltic "forest brothers" had tremendous support from the entire West. If he suddenly has more pressing problems than feeding these "rebels", then there will be no organized resistance in the new territories. They just need to organize such problems.
      1. 0
        4 June 2023 15: 16
        Quote: Aviator_
        At the time you indicated, Bandera and the Baltic "forest brothers" had tremendous support from the entire West.

        And how was this "huge" support expressed?
  7. -4
    2 June 2023 05: 22
    It is necessary to prepare Iskander rockets filled with at least millions of tungsten balls.
    With an explosion in the air, and then all enemy infantry and small equipment will be destroyed in a diameter of 1 km.
    The launch of 10 missiles - and the entire offensive contingent will be destroyed in a couple of hours.
  8. +7
    2 June 2023 05: 33
    You can write a lot of fortune-telling words and put forward all sorts of theories, only again I have a feeling and an assumption that the main thing is that we do not have superiority in the forces and means necessary for an offensive. These are the thoughts that arise and questions are not for the General Staff and other headquarters (the minister of defense should not be remembered as a parade figure), everything rests on politics, the will of the generals is not given.
    1. +10
      2 June 2023 06: 10
      Quote: saigon
      the main thing is that we do not have superiority in the forces and means necessary for the offensive

      The leadership doesn't need Ukraine. Neither the territory nor the population. That's why we "grind". But to fight defensively means to give the initiative to the enemy, who will certainly take advantage of it.
      This is what is happening. Mobilization, training and pumping with new Western weapons are being carried out calmly.

      If during the last offensive they used a quantitative advantage, then in the upcoming one they will try to use a qualitative one as well. Western: air defense, tanks, aircraft, long-range missiles. Perhaps they will strike closer to autumn (in the fall). That is exactly how much time (IMHO) is needed for rearmament and training. Well, in the meantime they will declare what they have been shouting about since winter: "a quick and crushing offensive."
      1. -13
        2 June 2023 06: 37
        Quote: Stas157
        then in the upcoming one they will try to use high-quality ones. Western: air defense

        And, well, everyone saw the qualitative superiority of the Patriots ... He knows how to knock down cars in Kyiv, and the power steering administration flew over the bridge quite well. As well as the qualitative superiority of Bayraktars, Chimeras, Zhabelins and so on.
        Do not remind Antonovsky bridge for three months gouging? But how did the troops LEFT on it?
        1. +11
          2 June 2023 09: 04
          And it flew to us in the Kremlin. The Americans turned Iraq and Afghanistan into dust for two skyscrapers
          1. -13
            2 June 2023 09: 51
            Well, Syria is in ruins and we can do it without straining, here it’s not close to the Outskirts of the Russian Empire. that's the trouble.
        2. kam
          +2
          2 June 2023 09: 25
          Quote from Bingo
          Do not remind Antonovsky bridge for three months gouging? But how did the troops LEFT on it?

          If everything is so cool, then why did they leave?
      2. +4
        2 June 2023 07: 59
        To fight from the offensive, so the question is that the BTG does not provide suppression of the enemy by fire, well, there are not so many fire weapons.
        The brigade is also not a division, and as I understand it, the trunks are also short and there is no artillery regiment. In a word, what is the reason most likely simply in the density of troops and trunks.
        During maneuvering actions, it is necessary to provide flanks, problems with this seem to be.
        In a word, much is not understood
  9. -8
    2 June 2023 05: 42
    Quote: Nagan
    . I don’t even feel like considering other options.

    And you consider... The Armed Forces of Ukraine rests only on the supply of weapons from the West, the mobilization potential of Russia is an order of magnitude higher.
    After the exhaustion of the human resources of Ukraine, it will collapse.
    The fact that they hate us on the sly is not a secret ... it has been treated with active propaganda for 30 years, starting from kindergarten age, according to the American model.
    Even if the Armed Forces of Ukraine launch a counteroffensive ... even if they achieve some success at the first stage, they cannot count on more with such a meager number of soldiers.
    A protracted conflict is extremely unprofitable for Ukraine, it will definitely lose in it.
    Well, as for Stalin and Beria ... there are such people in our society ... smile under certain circumstances, they will be in power ... and then many will regret that they were born into the light of God.
    1. +11
      2 June 2023 06: 29
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Ukraine is extremely unfavorable for a protracted conflict

      I think it's the other way around. Her rear is the West and all its economic and military power. But it takes time to use it. The priceless time that Ukraine is given by its adversary (without attacking).
      1. -8
        2 June 2023 06: 39
        Quote: Stas157
        Her rear is the West and all its economic and military power.

        These are the arsenals that have been depleted and officially declared that they are not able to restore in the foreseeable future?
        1. +22
          2 June 2023 07: 37
          Quote from Bingo
          depleted the arsenals and officially declared that in the foreseeable future they were not able to restore

          Let's throw our hats together, shall we? Yes, the West is not good for us at all! He has nothing to fight with!
          1. -16
            2 June 2023 09: 53
            Quote: Stas157
            Let's throw our hats together, shall we?

            Throw, but not with us, but with your owners - about the depleted asenals and the impossibility of restoring them - THEIR words, not ours.
            Here's an ambush, huh?
          2. -11
            2 June 2023 11: 35
            Quote: Stas157
            He has nothing to fight with!

            Currently, the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance have exhausted their stocks of ammunition, so the bloc's arsenals need to be replenished as soon as possible. This was stated in an interview with Bloomberg by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

            https://topwar.ru/218395-gensek-nato-nashel-opravdanie-dlja-povyshenija-rashodov-stran-aljansa-na-oboronu-do-polozhennyh-2-vvp.html
            The tsipsota urya was whistling and the kava of the panty was throwing ...
        2. +12
          2 June 2023 14: 53
          just naive ... evaluate the industrial potential of at least NATO countries and think in how many days (not months) they will restore stocks
        3. +6
          2 June 2023 16: 13
          These are the arsenals that have been depleted and officially declared that they are not able to restore in the foreseeable future?


          "So big, but do you believe in fairy tales?" (c) from a joke
    2. +6
      2 June 2023 06: 36
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      After the exhaustion of the human resources of Ukraine, it will collapse.


      They will bring a million reckless people from the Middle East, Bulgarians, Latinos, Poles, Turks. They will force all "brothers in arms" to put up contingents of "volunteers"...
      Just while the Ukrainians are fighting almost for nothing. The tactic of slow "grinding" is meaningless.
      1. +8
        2 June 2023 06: 49
        Yes, yes, right now, millions of Bulgarians and Turks will trample on Ukraine ... do you seriously believe in this?
        1. -6
          2 June 2023 06: 58
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Yes, right now, millions of Bulgarians and Turks will trample on Ukraine

          Bulgarians - to the front, suckers - from the front to Bulgaria)))
        2. -1
          2 June 2023 07: 04
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          do you seriously believe this?


          They didn't believe in "Donbass" either... Everyone was herded into Afghanistan and Iraq. Even Georgians with Kazakhs. For the sake of control over the resources of Russia, even "white" America will be chased. For starters, they may well be thrown at the "Transnistrian Front", and there "blood for blood" and the 3rd World War rushed ...
          1. +1
            2 June 2023 07: 13
            A maximum of several brigades of mercenaries can be supplied...for a full-fledged invasion, full-fledged armies are needed.
            All these people need to be trained, armed, fed, paid ... this is a different scale.
            That's why I don't think it will be like in Iraq and Afghanistan...the NATO members were the main ringleaders there...everything else is trivial.
            1. +6
              2 June 2023 09: 53
              “Therefore, I don’t think it will be like in Iraq and Afghanistan ... there, all the same, the main instigators were NATO ... everything else is a trifle”
              there, as elsewhere and always, the main ringleaders were amers, as in Ukraine
              ".for a full-fledged invasion, full-fledged armies are needed"
              You are thinking in terms of the day before yesterday. Several thousand axes in previously reconnoitered and zeroed-in places, aviation with thousands of sorties a day - in a week the RF Armed Forces will be transferred to the category of partisan detachments, without communications and supplies. Then they will go to clean up the territories - Khokhls, Poles, Romanians and other Turks. The Chinese will occupy the Far East and Siberia without prior arrangement - exclusively for raw materials, they do not need the population. Well, they will have a little quarrel with the Japanese, for the Kuril Islands. And that's it. In a month the new president (maybe we even know his last name) will sign the Chancellor Act and announce another constitution, composed far from the outside. And everything will go on as it was, only more blacks will appear in the occupation administrations, the number of oligarchs will sharply decrease, and the benefits of civilization for the rest of the population will come through a thin tube
              1. +3
                2 June 2023 10: 01
                "and everything will go as it went, only in the occupation"
                this, if anything, is my forecast for a war with NATO, with which, according to many here, we have been fighting for a long time
              2. -1
                2 June 2023 18: 05
                Fantasize ... a few Sarmatians in decision-making centers will cool your ardor and desire to throw axes across Russia located there.
                Do not even dream. smile
                1. +3
                  2 June 2023 18: 33
                  "several Sarmatians in decision-making centers will cool your ardor and desire for those who are there"
                  well, well, we can see how they hit the centers. so far only in moscow and belgorod, but that's for now. and launch the Sarmatians - the current Faberge leadership has the wrong system
                  1. -1
                    2 June 2023 19: 07
                    Quote: aglet
                    well, well, we can see how they hit the centers. so far only in moscow and belgorod, but that's for now. and launch the Sarmatians - the current Faberge leadership has the wrong system

                    I also see how they beat Kyiv smile.
                    Don't worry...when the pressure gets tight, the Kremlin will press the red button.
                    As for Putin's Faberge... I have no doubt that he will have the will to launch the Sarmatians... it's just that the axes, as you say, haven't hit the Kremlin yet... a couple of Budanov's commercial drones that fell on the dome are not a reason to waste strategic missiles on retaliation. smile
                    1. +4
                      3 June 2023 11: 36
                      "I also see how Kyiv is being hit"
                      and I see how they hit Shebekino - 800 missiles per day. That's what the governor said. and it’s somehow purple to me that they are hitting Kyiv. I need them not to hit Belgorod, and even Moscow
                      "just axes, as you say, have not hit the Kremlin yet ..."
                      when they hit, it will be too late to press any buttons, because the Kremlin is the last target, and the first is the same Sarmatians
                    2. -2
                      3 June 2023 20: 06
                      Well, Putin has some cool Faberge. Look at the Belgorod region, they're terrorizing it all. They're evacuating Shebekeno. Think about it, the residents of the Russian city are being evacuated because Putin's hands can't reach the button.
              3. -1
                2 June 2023 19: 31
                And what will there be no one to press the nuclear button? And erase the NATO armies
          2. 0
            3 June 2023 13: 44
            White America will soon begin to emigrate to Russia itself, as to a lost world of traditional values ​​and healthy conservatism. In my opinion, our top political leaders are betting on this. As a solution to the problem of population decline. People who are closer in mentality and culture than their neighbors from Central Asia.
    3. +2
      2 June 2023 19: 16
      After the exhaustion of Ukraine, there is still Poland, Finland and other countries of the alliance, as well as an overseas supplier. And there is no one behind us.
      A protracted conflict is beneficial to all the tops and is not beneficial only to the common people. This conflict diverts all attention to itself, the economic crisis and internal problems remain on the sidelines, various laws beneficial to the authorities are secretly adopted, some of the most revolutionary-dangerous citizens are crushed, while earning decent capital along the way.
  10. +5
    2 June 2023 06: 33
    In addition to what is happening in Ukraine, there is also media news. Everything here is like a weather forecast. Lugansk. No one even stutters about this counter-strike. I think that artillery strikes should be directed against those firing points that I fire at civilians day after day. The mood of these people is no less important to us.
  11. -7
    2 June 2023 06: 48
    Quote: Stas157
    Her rear is the West and all its economic and military power.

    Only now the voters in the West are asking questions, why the hell do they need all this.
    1. +9
      2 June 2023 10: 10
      "Only voters in the west are asking questions, why the hell do they need it."
      yah? and what's going on there? revolutions, nationwide strikes, overthrow of governments? Yes, absolutely nothing on a global scale. they live the same life as before. no, a certain percentage of those concerned got excited, of course, but they are generally minuscule. they are absolutely not interested in us and do not need us, just like our gas and our oil. I mean the voters, of course
    2. +2
      3 June 2023 00: 04
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Only now the voters in the West are asking questions, why the hell do they need all this.


      It's not my fault - I voted for Trump.
  12. +1
    2 June 2023 06: 48
    All right. The string is taut. won't be able to hold it for long. Choosing the time and place of the strike is a martial art. However, the ability to predict and repel this blow is also an art.
    P.S. I personally find the fashionable abbreviation LBS off-putting. It's somehow frivolous and disrespectful. Front, or Front Line. Or - the frontline. Let's not forget the memory of our grandfathers who did not return from the front, and not from LBS.
    1. +7
      2 June 2023 08: 52
      Russia does not wage war, if you have not forgotten. After this statement by Peskov, I think every soldier thought: "Russia is not waging a war, what am I doing here?"
      Does it jar you from the abbreviation, but does it not jar from lawlessness?
  13. -1
    2 June 2023 06: 53
    Quote: Volunteer Marek
    I personally jars fashionable, abbreviation - LBS. How frivolous and disrespectful. Front line. Or, well, advanced.

    Now there is no front line in the classical sense ... there are gray zones, there are places where only artillery works ... millions of soldiers are needed for a continuous front with a length of 1500 km.
    1. 0
      2 June 2023 10: 30
      My grandfather did not return from the front. And I think that the memory of all those who died should be treated with respect. And it does not matter in which war our soldiers laid down their lives. They gave and give their lives for a just cause. "Did not return from LBS." - is this respect?
  14. -4
    2 June 2023 07: 23
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Ukraine is extremely unfavorable for a protracted conflict

    I think it's the other way around. Her rear is the West and all its economic and military power. But it takes time to use it. The priceless time that Ukraine is given by its adversary (without attacking).

    Not to say that the rear of the Khokhls turned out to be super reliable. It would not be bad to take into account the possibilities of this "rear" at the moment. This is about the fact that if the ukroreich has more forces and weapons than it receives, then time does not work for them.
    The blind idealization of the West is completely incomprehensible. According to some important positions in terms of the availability of weapons and ammunition and the possibility of their mass production, he is up to Russia, as up to the moon. Of course, you can shake bags of candy wrappers, but production will not immediately arise from this, and the existing one will not produce ten times more. In addition, whatever one may say, Russia has much cheaper resources, which is important.
    1. +3
      2 June 2023 07: 55
      Quote: Tagan
      The blind idealization of the West is completely incomprehensible.

      How do you assess a situation in which "it's better to be safe than sorry"?

  15. -2
    2 June 2023 08: 09
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: Tagan
    The blind idealization of the West is completely incomprehensible.

    How do you assess a situation in which "it's better to be safe than sorry"?

    I believe that it is counterproductive to cultivate an inferiority complex in oneself.
    1. +9
      2 June 2023 08: 22
      Quote: Tagan
      I believe that it is counterproductive to cultivate in oneself inferiority complex.

      Well, that doesn't really apply to hats. And we have a dime a dozen of them! There are few riflemen, but many hats. The picture we have here is rather the opposite - as if there were no overestimation complex! The Kharkov regrouping is evidence of this.
  16. +3
    2 June 2023 08: 34
    Quote: Tagan
    The blind idealization of the West is completely incomprehensible. According to some important positions in terms of the availability of weapons and ammunition and the possibility of their mass production, he is up to Russia, as up to the moon.

    Yeah, but for some reason we are the ones with the shell shortage, even in the most important areas (musicians). And if you compare high-precision shells, like the Heimers, then we look like Papuans - thanks to Rogozin and other effective managers. Kalibrs and Iskanders take off once every 3 months, although they should be daily. The means of communication are still from Soviet times. I'm not saying that we should lose hope and give up - Ukrainians are not infinite, production can be expanded / bought / begged from China, Iran and even the DPRK (we've come a long way!). We have a larger population, retreat does not = defeat. "We have the means, we lack the brains" (c).
  17. +4
    2 June 2023 08: 40
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Only now the voters in the West are asking questions, why the hell do they need all this.

    But who is listening to them?
  18. -2
    2 June 2023 08: 48
    Quote: Stas157

    Well, that doesn't really apply to hats. And we have a dime a dozen of them! There are few riflemen, but many hats. The picture we have here is rather the opposite - as if there were no overestimation complex! The Kharkov regrouping is evidence of this.

    It depends on what to attribute to the caps. If, for example, someone does not lament and says that we have something to answer, but there is no evidence to the contrary, does this apply to hatred?
  19. 0
    2 June 2023 09: 21
    I don’t understand what to be afraid of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? isn’t it time to learn from Israel’s experience when the Egyptians and Syrians attacked them, defeated them, because they were covered by air defense, but as soon as they got out of the umbrella, they raked them to the fullest. You just need to prepare more aircraft and let the ukrams get drawn in as far away as possible, and then complete destruction from the air.
  20. +6
    2 June 2023 09: 24
    This is the same desire to move forward that arises before an offensive. When the legs itch, the eyes look into the distance when the body wants a fight.
    Right, Song of the Falcon.
  21. +8
    2 June 2023 09: 24
    "Preparing for defense, we plan to attack! And attack in such a way that by the end of the summer campaign we will free most of the Left Bank"
    Staver's next forecast will come true in exactly the same way as the previous ones, that is, we are not preparing for defense, and we will not attack. and it’s not necessary to talk about most of it, so as not to jinx it laughing
  22. -2
    2 June 2023 09: 28
    Quote: Meaning of Life_

    Yeah, but for some reason we are the ones with the shell shortage, even in the most important areas (musicians). And if you compare high-precision shells, like the Heimers, then we look like Papuans - thanks to Rogozin and other effective managers. Kalibrs and Iskanders take off once every 3 months, although they should be daily. The means of communication are still from Soviet times. I'm not saying that we should lose hope and give up - Ukrainians are not infinite, production can be expanded / bought / begged from China, Iran and even the DPRK (we've come a long way!). We have a larger population, retreat does not = defeat. "We have the means, we lack the brains" (c).

    It remains to compare who and how much spends over an equal period of time and what is the ratio of losses.
    Calibers and Iskanders take off once every 3 months

    I strongly doubt that this is true.
    And if we compare high-precision projectiles, such as Himers, then we generally look like Papuans

    I think it's a little different. The Papuans on the other side think that the Himers are an unsurpassed prodigy with whom they will definitely win. They said the same about javelins, bayraktars. But somehow they subsided over time.
    We, unlike the Papuans, have the opportunity and the means to shoot Ukraine up and down, which has recently been done with enviable regularity. And these means are quite diverse. At the same time, no means brought by the "pale-faced" can save.
    production can be deployed / bought / begged from China, Iran and even the DPRK (survived!)

    Is there any evidence that we bought / begged from the DPRK? Again, Ukraine is supplied by several dozen different states. And at the same time, we got tired of buying something for our hard-earned money, since it comes to that?)) And then, why is the DPRK more flawed than the same Baltic extinctions, Poland or Bulgaria? In my opinion, the DPRK looks much more worthy, especially under the most severe sanctions.
  23. +4
    2 June 2023 09: 48
    A month of continuous explanations why the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not come to the counter-offensive promoted by our media ...
    And not for the first time.

    Alas, this is a problem of negative selection and the level of the media. Zombies of the population can go sideways.

    Since all the explanations about whether we are bombing/not bombing, dirt/roads, money/not money, the State Department allowed/prohibited - this is all a slightly different tea leaves...
  24. -1
    2 June 2023 11: 47
    Yes, the Russian offensive and the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the subsequent conclusion of a peace treaty is the best outcome of the campaign. Although remembering the previous offensives, I don't really expect anything.
  25. +3
    2 June 2023 16: 47
    And we, for humanitarian reasons, are forced to use high-precision bombs and missiles. Which significantly reduces the effect of the bombing

    Well, probably dumping a car of shells somewhere in that direction is more effective than an accurate hit. Maybe. Reasoning about humanitarian considerations against the backdrop of the ruins of cities also deliver.
  26. +3
    2 June 2023 19: 09
    Quote: Tagan
    The Papuans on the other side think that the Himers are an unsurpassed prodigy with whom they will definitely win. They said the same about javelins, bayraktars.

    In fact, it was mostly javelins that stopped our "blitzkrieg" in March 2022. By the way, they have been supplied to Ukrainians since 2018 (this is for those of our patriots who jerk off on Trump). Hymers are not a guarantee of victory, but one such missile with a hit accuracy of 10 meters replaces a hundred missiles with a dispersion of 200 meters (the dispersion area is 400 times smaller!). It was the accuracy of the Hymers that allowed the Ukrainians to shell the Antonovsky bridge for 3 months, disrupting the supply of our troops in Kherson, which led to its surrender. The Hymers could not bring down the bridge - in the Soviet Union, bridges were built to last, but they were able to destroy the cars traveling on it, damage the upper canvas and prevent its repair very well.
  27. +2
    2 June 2023 19: 12
    Quote: Tagan
    Ukraine is supplied by several dozen different states. And at the same time, we got tired of buying something for our hard-earned money, since it comes to that?)) And then, why is the DPRK more flawed than the same Baltic extinctions, Poland or Bulgaria? In my opinion, the DPRK looks much more worthy, especially under the most severe sanctions.

    Here I completely agree.
  28. 0
    2 June 2023 19: 32
    Quote: Demon
    On the sly, various laws beneficial to the authorities are adopted, some of the most revolutionary-dangerous citizens are ground down, while earning decent capital along the way.

    This is a whole set of irreconcilable contradictions ... the war nullifies them for a while ... this has been the case at all times in the development of mankind.
  29. +1
    2 June 2023 20: 12
    Those who knew the cardinal directions are gone. But they don't know which way to go!
  30. 0
    2 June 2023 22: 30
    Calm down. There will be no storm. Ukrainian Nowadays it's different. The soul is missing ))
  31. -3
    3 June 2023 04: 31
    Quote: chingachguc
    Calm down. There will be no storm. Ukrainian Nowadays it's different. The soul is missing ))

    ... and Kyiv in 3 days.
  32. 0
    3 June 2023 06: 58
    The coast provides such an opportunity. Even though the Russian Black Sea Fleet will try to block this logistical route.
    That is, the author claims that the Naval Forces of Ukraine can supply the group that has broken through to the Sea of ​​​​Azov, themselves, in turn, breaking through the Kerch Strait under the Crimean bridge ... ???
  33. 0
    3 June 2023 08: 55
    Quote: Meaning of Life_
    Actually, it was mostly javelins that stopped our "blitzkrieg" in March 2022. By the way, they have been supplied to Ukrainians since 2018 (this is for those of our patriots who jerk off on Trump). Hymers are not a guarantee of victory, but one such missile with a hit accuracy of 10 meters replaces a hundred missiles with a dispersion of 200 meters (the dispersion area is 400 times smaller!).


    Nonsense. The "Blitzkrieg" was stopped because the political calculation for a coup in Kyiv did not work after our troops approached it. Zelensky strangled the opposition in time. After that, the troops were taken back, relying on a war of attrition.

    Again, these "chimeras".
    For MLRS, high accuracy is not needed, they work on areal targets. And "chimeras" are neither fish nor meat. Like MLRS - they are weak, they cover a small area, like a fuel dispenser - too, the range is short, like warheads. An incomprehensible hybrid, which is inferior to conventional MLRS and fuel dispensers, even if it sometimes takes it with its versatility.

    Cannon artillery is no worse for hitting bridges if there is enough range.
    1. +1
      3 June 2023 20: 03
      Quote: Illanatol
      Cannon artillery is no worse for hitting bridges if there is enough range.

      Campaign your knowledge of military affairs is no better than that of history laughing Can you name such a system of cannon artillery in the Russian army, which strikes at 90 km and at this range falls into a circle with a diameter of 10 meters?
    2. +1
      4 June 2023 01: 32
      Chimera is not fish, not meat, not MLRS. However, it solves its tasks perfectly, except in those cases when air defense systems counteract the chimeras. Then Hurricanes are thrown forward, followed by chimeras. I won’t say for the effectiveness of electronic warfare, but it’s clear that chimeras are more than worth their money.
  34. +1
    3 June 2023 09: 02
    Quote: Meaning of Life_
    Uh-huh, only for some reason we have a shell hunger, even in the most important areas (among musicians). And if we compare high-precision projectiles, such as Himers, then we generally look like Papuans - thanks to Rogozin and other effective managers. Calibers and Iskanders take off once every 3 months, although it is necessary daily.


    Just nonsense. Even Western experts admit that our army in the NMD zone spends many times more shells than the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    We don't fucking need their Hymars when we have Tornado-S and Suns.
    Calibers and Iskanders (for which the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply do not have analogues) fly much more often and not in units.
  35. +1
    3 June 2023 09: 07
    Quote: samarin1969
    .In Afghanistan and Iraq they drove everyone. Even Georgians with Kazakhs. For the sake of control over the resources of Russia, even "white" America will be chased.


    By a teaspoon. And it didn't help, by the way.
    They don't chase. The United States does not have the necessary unity of the nation to get directly involved in another conflict. Moreover, it is too costly. And while resources can be found elsewhere, where the risks are less.
  36. +2
    3 June 2023 13: 29
    The Russian Defense Ministry's plan is logical - to weaken the "offensive guard" with strikes and to tear apart the logistics of the Ukrainian Armed Forces as much as possible, to draw the enemy into his "counteroffensive" by identifying the direction of the main strike, to grind down his main striking forces in a deep defense, and then to go on the offensive ourselves on the shoulders of the washed-out and broken strike units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Any adequate headquarters would plan like this. The only problem is that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are increasingly acquiring long-range weapons - from MLRS 70-100 km to cruise missiles from UAVs with a radius of 500-1000 km. And this is a huge danger to our rear bases, warehouses, logistics. But our main task is to preserve troops and equipment.
  37. -1
    3 June 2023 20: 00
    Quote: Illanatol
    Nonsense. The "Blitzkrieg" was stopped because the political calculation for a coup in Kyiv did not work after our troops approached it. Zelensky strangled the opposition in time. After that, the troops were taken back, relying on a war of attrition.

    That is, you are saying that the troops COULD take Kyiv, but deliberately decided not to take it, but to bet on a war of attrition? Are you out of your mind?
  38. -1
    3 June 2023 20: 08
    Quote: Illanatol
    For MLRS, high accuracy is not needed, they work on areal targets. And "chimeras" are neither fish nor meat. Like MLRS - they are weak, they cover a small area, like a fuel dispenser - too, the range is short, like warheads. An incomprehensible hybrid that is inferior to conventional MLRS and fuel dispensers

    It is difficult to explain higher mathematics to a person who has barely mastered the alphabet.
  39. +1
    4 June 2023 08: 49
    Quote: Meaning of Life_
    That is, you are saying that the troops COULD take Kyiv, but deliberately decided not to take it, but to bet on a war of attrition? Are you out of your mind?


    Are you dyslexic and unable to comprehend what you read?
    I advise you to change your avatar, do not dishonor the coat of arms of the USSR.

    Once again, for those who are in the tank: the bet was on a political coup in Kyiv, which could happen when our army approached this city. The oligarchs and generals, realizing the criticality of the situation, could overthrow Zelensky, create a new government that would be quite negotiable and would accept our conditions (recognizing the sovereignty of the DPR and LPR and agreeing to a neutral status and not joining NATO).
    The analogy is with the events in the Third Reich, where there was an attempt to overthrow and assassinate Hitler.
    However, Zelensky (at the suggestion of the Yankees) cleared the clearing and there was no one to carry out the coup. Realizing this, our leadership moved on to "Plan B", which is still being implemented.
    No one planned to take Kyiv.
  40. 0
    4 June 2023 08: 53
    Quote: Meaning of Life_
    It's hard to explain higher mathematics to a person,


    Well, when there is essentially nothing to object, all that remains is to blow sponges.
    Do not consider yourself smarter than everyone. Modesty - decorates.
    Or do you serve in the General Staff?
    Or maybe they worked in the design bureau for the development of new weapons for decades?
    I suspect that all your knowledge in this area comes from computer games and "heroic blockbusters".

    About the "calibers" and "Iskanders" flying once every three months - thanks, they made me laugh. You can see the news reaches you with big interruptions ... tongue
  41. 0
    4 June 2023 08: 58
    Quote: Meaning of Life_
    Can you name such a system of cannon artillery in the Russian army, which strikes at 90 km and at this range falls into a circle with a diameter of 10 meters?


    And at such a range there is simply no need to use cannon artillery.
    There are other means of destruction. From OTRK to attack aircraft.
  42. 0
    5 June 2023 15: 24
    What is this article all about? Lots of letters and little meaning.
    1. 0
      6 June 2023 22: 05
      There is a lot of meaning in this war, about the not simple Nazi enemies, about more of our soldiers returning home after victory,
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  43. +1
    6 June 2023 08: 13
    Can anyone really explain to me how we got from "Kyiv in 3 days" to the hope of repelling the Ukrainian offensive against Russia? Who is this "brilliant" generalissimo strategist who conceived such a brilliant military campaign with demilitarizations, denazifications... and now we don't know how to get out of this swamp. Under Stalin, all these "brilliant" military strategists - against the wall, on a barrel of gunpowder - let them fly!
  44. 0
    6 June 2023 22: 00
    Yes, this Bandera war is surreptitious, vilely, from behind the backs of its own population, from their homes, but loudly and loudly, so that Western politicians hear and give weapons, pay money
  45. 0
    30 July 2023 00: 11
    I am not an analyst, not a visionary, and I understand little about war... But it is clear that we need to prepare for mobilization.
  46. 0
    10 August 2023 06: 37
    "There will be a Ukrainian offensive. And the silence that many complain about is actually far from silence"
    Staver is prophesying again. I would like to remind you that summer is ending, autumn is just around the corner. And although it is dry and warm in those places, but after September comes October, and after it November, and this means rain, in any case. xoxly, with talk and hints about their offensive, they scared the command of the Russian Armed Forces, won the whole season, holding our armed forces in their previous positions. It is too late for our troops to advance, although they do not strive for it. The video of the completely destroyed Novosyolovka seems to hint at the goals of our command - the complete destruction of everything. Each building was either destroyed by detonation, or swept away by concentrated fire of large-caliber artillery. And it looks more like detonations, there are not enough craters around. Each building. Like in Bakhmut. I understand, it was impossible to surround this metropolis (Bakhmut), there were not enough troops, but there were enough shells to sweep it away. but it was possible to encircle and bypass the tiny Novosyolovka, with an area of ​​1 sq. km, and not fight it head-on, as usual? and how long did this squeezing out take? like a year. that's why I say - our troops won't attack either, firstly they don't know how, secondly they don't want to. and prove me otherwise
  47. -1
    10 August 2023 06: 45
    "Preparing for defense, we plan to attack! And attack in such a way that by the end of the summer campaign we will free most of the Left Bank"
    Staver's next forecast, he wrote this at the beginning of June. when does the summer campaign end? and we haven't even started yet.
  48. -1
    24 August 2023 13: 37
    Bridges with tunnels also dispersed, like the refinery?