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New unmanned trophy of Iran

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In early December last year, the Iranian military reported on the successful interception of the American reconnaissance drone Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel. As it turned out later, the device was planted at the Iranian airfield with the help of some kind of radio-technical system, which allegedly "slipped" the false signal of the GPS navigation system to it. After that, the UAV itself sat in Iran, “thinking” that this is an American base in Afghanistan. Other details of the operation were not reported. A few months after the interception, the Iranian military declared that the trophy had been fully studied and the construction of its counterpart had begun.



Ironically, a new message about the successful interception of the American drone came exactly one year after the previous one. December 4 Rear Admiral A. Falawi of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) reported that an unmanned aerial vehicle Boing Insitu ScanEagle ("Scanning Eagle") fell into the hands of the Iranian armed forces. According to the admiral, the device was intercepted during the flight over the territorial waters of Iran. Like the Sentinel, ScanEagle was captured by swapping control signals and planted on an Iranian military base. Iranians believe that the intercepted aircraft was launched from one of the American ships that are now in the Persian Gulf. As proof of the vice-admiral's words, photographic materials were presented that captured a trophy drone and Iranian specialists.

Like last year, US officials are in no hurry to admit their involvement in the apparatus seized by Iranians. Moreover, they claim that all ScanEagle available are currently in place and there is nothing known about any losses during the flights. Also, the Americans emphasize the area of ​​flights of their UAVs: according to them, the vehicles never enter the territorial waters, and, moreover, do not fly over the land part of this or that foreign country. It is obvious that the Iranians do not agree with the official statements of the USA and call the intercepted UAV exactly the American one. The ambiguity of the situation is added by the fact that Iran’s ScanEagle does not have any identifying marks. This is a standard practice for reconnaissance aircraft, but the Iranian counterintelligence does not make it any easier.

UAV ScanEagle is a light flying platform designed to install various equipment, primarily for reconnaissance. The device is made according to the “tailless” scheme and has a swept wing with a span of 311 centimeters. In the fuselage length of 1,37 meter placed piston engine with a capacity of two horsepower, fuel tanks and a stabilized platform for the target equipment. The maximum take-off weight of ScanEagle does not exceed 20 kilogram, while the fuel reserve is enough for a flight lasting about a day. In flight, the drone can rise to a height of six kilometers. Despite the long flight time, ScanEagle has a range of just 100-120 kilometers. At large distances, he is not able to transmit intelligence information to earth. The main flight mode is automatic. Before the flight, route information is loaded into the memory of the device with reference to the coordinates of the route points. The drone makes a flight from one point to another, and the operator can change the flight program after launch or, if necessary, urgently recall it to the base. ScanEagle takes off from a pneumatic catapult, and lands using the SkyHook system (“Sky hook”). The latter works as follows: on the base (ground or on the ship) an 30-meter mast is installed with a cable fixed on it. The UAV automatically hovers over the cable and clings to it with a special hook.



One of the most interesting moments of the ScanEagle project is a special miniature side-effect radar with synthetic aperture NanoSAR, operating in the X-band. With a weight of about a kilogram, this station is about the size of a small box for shoes. Transmitter power allows you to "view" the surrounding space at distances up to 3300 meters. In the latest modifications of the NanoSAR, a new computing complex was applied, thanks to which already processed information is sent to the control panel. Such an approach made it possible to reduce the amount of information transmitted and, as a result, to make the data transmission channel a bit more secure. If necessary, instead of a portable radar can be installed optical or thermal imaging system, but the main version of the target equipment is the NanoSAR.

Following reports of the interception of the American drone appeared news on the future plans of Iran. Apparently, the trophy was taken at least a few days ago: the Iranians, if you believe them, have already managed to analyze the design and decipher a number of secret information. The UAV itself may soon become evidence in a lawsuit between Iran and the United States. Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Islamic Republic A.A. Salehi declared an official protest, and also showed the possibility of recourse to international courts. It is not the first time that the United States has been accused of violating Iran’s air borders, and official Tehran is not going to be satisfied with apologies alone, not to mention its reluctance not to let the case go.

However, litigation is not the most serious threat that Iranians may be unhappy with the flights. Just a few hours after the first news of the interception of the ScanEagle apparatus in the Iranian media, there were reports that Iranian specialists managed to hack software protection systems and decipher some secret information that is directly related to both the UAV’s technical part and its practical application. Thus, regardless of the outcome of the court sessions, Iran has one weighty argument. In fact, nothing prevents Tehran from publishing the data. It is not difficult to guess what the consequences of such a publication.

Among the victims of a possible publication may not be only the United States. The fact is that ScanEagle drones in limited quantities were delivered to Canada, Colombia, the Netherlands and other countries. There is unconfirmed information about the presence of such devices in Saudi Arabia. If this is true, then the situation with the intercepted ScanEagle takes on an even more interesting look. Relations between Tehran and Riyadh have deteriorated badly in recent years, so the drone could have been launched by Arabians. However, in the light of recent political events in the Middle East, for the United States, the United States is a more "advantageous" adversary, which determines the words of Iranian officials.

At the same time, there is no accurate and reliable information regarding the presence of ScanEagle in Saudi Arabia. So the intercepted device could really belong to the Americans. As for US statements regarding flying only over neutral waters, given the range of the NanoSAR radar, they look like real excuses: while above neutral waters, ScanEagle can only monitor ships that are far enough offshore. Of course, there is no question of any reconnaissance of coastal objects.

The fact of intercepting a foreign drone created by leading world-class companies says a lot about the level of development of Iranian technologies. It seems that Iran, independently or with somebody’s help, was able to make practically applicable equipment to counter UAVs. It is noteworthy that on the account of the Iranian fighters of the radio engineering "front" there are already two American drone planted and taken as trophies. To justify the United States, it should be said that they, too, are working in this direction. In the summer of this year, employees of the University of Texas presented to the world a device called the GPS Spoofer ("GPS Deceiver"). It is designed to silence a real GPS navigation signal with a false one. The unmanned vehicle, not receiving real satellite signals, begins to navigate according to data from the "Spoofer". Thus, the drone can be led away from the real base and lead to its object. Of particular interest is the fact that Texas scientists assembled their GPS Spoofer from commercially available components.

The experience of American scientists confirms the practical possibility of intercepting unmanned aerial vehicles. So the Iranians are quite capable of not only detecting other people's UAVs, but also landing them on their airfields. Therefore, Americans, Arabians and other enemies of Iran should reconsider their views on the use of UAVs, otherwise the list of trophies of the Islamic Republic can be replenished with new flying exhibits.


On the materials of the sites:
http://vz.ru/
http://lenta.ru/
http://bbc.co.uk/
http://airwar.ru/
http://naval-technology.com/
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  1. edge
    edge 7 December 2012 08: 10
    +19
    nda, the Iranians easily plant amers ..............
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 7 December 2012 09: 09
      +10
      This helped them, like last time, our AUTOBASE! Here's a link about her: http://9e-maya.ru/forum/index.php?topic=1073.0
      1. YARY
        YARY 7 December 2012 09: 21
        +22
        GOOD LUCK THEM AND MORE !!!
      2. RVSN209
        RVSN209 16 December 2012 11: 43
        0
        If memory serves, then Iran has two of these))) I already imagine the conversation between Iran and Russia - Give us 50 more LIKED us))))
    2. yurasumy
      yurasumy 7 December 2012 13: 29
      +12
      We need to consider critically this information. I have a lot of questions. There are no breakthroughs without consequences. In order to land a drone, there must be powerful developments in the field of control systems (and at the level of fundamental research, as well as technology.). Further, we need the most powerful developments in the field of electronic warfare. Next, you need a powerful intelligence service that will be able to obtain the necessary information (the system of coding the transmission of commands and communication systems. After all, to shoot down the apparatus of the mind does not need much. You just need to disrupt the communication system, and to plant it is not enough. They also need to control, block the self-destruction system, to block satellite signals (not to drown out, namely to block), and at the same time to control the device via the same frequency channel. This is a colossal task.). Personally, I do not believe that some hackers simply took and deciphered the encoding of the communication system and UAV commands. This is practically impossible in theory. And you want to tell me that Iran did all this. Don't tell my horseshoes. Here the "ears" of Russia are visible to the naked eye. And perhaps the first device that was allegedly shot down about six months ago was an unsuccessful attempt to "land" a drone.
      P.S. Well, it’s clear that if all this is a duck, then there’s nothing to talk about.
      1. iwind
        iwind 7 December 2012 13: 37
        +1
        Here in another matter, on this site people want to believe that there was a landing and the UAV is garbage. And people believe in what they want and I will not critically perceive or comprehend what they believe.
        I posted two interesting videos about UAV landing just below.
      2. Lucky
        Lucky 7 December 2012 14: 25
        0
        Well, fine, if we planted then we will be given technology for the production of drones
      3. ism_ek
        ism_ek 7 December 2012 15: 14
        +1
        Quote: yurasumy
        Personally, I do not believe that some hackers just took and decrypted the encoding of the communication system and UAV commands.

        Even Iraqi partisans intercept the signal from American UAVs. There is nothing really encrypted. The amount of information transmitted is huge. It is impossible to encrypt it qualitatively
        http://www.vedomosti.ru/tech/news/2009/12/17/909408
        1. yurasumy
          yurasumy 7 December 2012 17: 21
          +6
          SW ism_ek
          Intercepting the signal is not a question. In principle, this was decided in Vietnam at the end of the 60s by Soviet specialists. Have you ever heard anything about encoding information. I defended my diploma on this topic and my own developments were in the early 90s. But then no one needed it. So the video that the Iraqi rebels intercepted (from your link) is a regular video like in your DVD, for example (I'm not saying exactly in what format, but it's not that important). Standard codecs, respectively standard decoders. This information is secret only for the tracking object. For the "owners" of the UAV, this information is not secret and therefore it does not make sense to attract additional resources for its "encryption", and it is also harmful (because each encryption complicates and increases the cost of the equipment + expands or the width of the transmission channel range (which again increases in price) with parallel signal transmission, or reduces the speed, and accordingly the resolution and the amount of transmitted information during sequential transmission.). The control signals of the apparatus itself are another matter. Here, encryption is not only expedient, but also necessary (otherwise any radio amateur will be able to solve the problem of intercepting such a drone. Well, anybody, of course, will get excited, but the average person will definitely be able to.) And the encryption of this signal occurs with a "margin", i.e. approximately so that any modern computer will be able to decrypt such a signal by brute-force, well, at least for 1 years. (Again it got hot. 000 is laid down during development. Since computing technology is moving forward by leaps and bounds, then in reality in 000 years a super-modern computer will be able to decipher such a code in 1000000 years. That is, data leakage is indispensable here, and therefore powerful intelligence.). Is that clearer?
          1. ism_ek
            ism_ek 7 December 2012 18: 23
            +2
            Quote: yurasumy
            And encryption of this signal occurs with a "margin", i.e. approximately so that any modern computer will be able to decode such a signal by brute-force, well, for at least 1 years. (Again, it got hot.
            Nobody "head-on" decrypts control signals. If you match the encoded signal and the real behavior of the DRON, the task of decoding control signals will be greatly simplified. In reality, the Iranians needed the DRON to shut off the engine and release the parachute. There is no need to break the entire control system.
            ps in general, if you are behind the progress - type in Google "hacking wireless networks"
            Quote: yurasumy
            So the video that the Iraqi rebels intercepted (from your link) is a regular video like in your DVD for example

            I’m on WiFi - I’m watching a video - you will be able to intercept it with a DVD player wink Here it is not a video encoding, but a protocol of interaction between a base station and a DRON.
            1. Professor
              Professor 7 December 2012 18: 39
              0
              ps in general, if you are behind the progress - type in Google "hacking wireless networks"

              In theory, everything is smooth, but in practice neither Russia nor China was able to crack the Skype code, and how Iran is technologically "advanced" should not be explained.
              1. ism_ek
                ism_ek 7 December 2012 18: 56
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                In theory, everything is smooth, but in practice, neither Russia nor China could crack the Skype code,
                Skype is not a problem to hack. The difficulty with Skype is that there is no single center. For example, a telephone operator has a switchboard. You can put a "black box" there and "listen" to all conversations. With Skype, each package can go its own way. It is necessary to "listen" directly to the "wire" coming from the computer. It's easier to shove the bugs into the room. In Skype, any computer with the installed program can become a switch (super node).
                ps By the way, our Estonian friends write Skype.
                1. Karish
                  Karish 7 December 2012 19: 08
                  +6
                  Quote: ism_ek
                  ps By the way, our Estonian friends write Skype.

                  Now I understand why it works so slowly laughing
                2. Professor
                  Professor 7 December 2012 19: 26
                  -2
                  Skype hack is not a problem.

                  nevertheless, neither the Russian special services nor China could hack it. In China, due to the impossibility of wiretapping, it was simply banned. They threatened to do the same in Russia, but then chance helped: Microsoft bought Skype and "kindly provided" the FSB codes. So much for the Estonian GUI developers.
                  1. yurasumy
                    yurasumy 7 December 2012 20: 13
                    -3
                    You professor ism_ek cannot prove anything. A person does not even understand what "heresy" is. The person has gone too far, but he cannot slow down and say that he is overheated. Therefore, it will argue to the end or go into ignore. Honestly, he amuses me very much. I have not received such pleasure for a long time.
                  2. ism_ek
                    ism_ek 7 December 2012 22: 18
                    +1
                    Skype in China has not been blocked since 2004, because all traffic passes through the servers of the Hong Kong company TOM Online.

                    The Egyptian revolutionaries who overthrew President Mubarak planned and coordinated their actions using the popular program and were confident in their security. But a secret note was found in the archives of the Egyptian counterintelligence, torn by the victorious people, proving that a unit called the "Electronic Penetration Department" was able to intercept the many activist negotiations over Skype. One of the activists, Basem Fathi, found his own file, which, among other things, contained descriptions of his love affairs and trips to the beach. Needless to say, some of these details 26-year-old fiery Egyptian reported only Skype-interlocutors?

                    http://net.compulenta.ru/613921/
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 7 December 2012 23: 01
                      -3
                      Needless to say, some of these details 26-year-old fiery Egyptian communicated only to Skip-interlocutors?

                      You smile at me, did he use antivirus? Did you clean the Trians?
              2. yurasumy
                yurasumy 7 December 2012 20: 16
                -3
                I generally wonder why SW. ism_ek with such talents and here vegetates. Yes, it's time for him to write a doctoral dissertation on hacking information security systems using the example of a Google request "hacking wireless networks." And I didn't know where the key was. It appears on Google.
            2. yurasumy
              yurasumy 7 December 2012 20: 01
              +3
              Quote: ism_ek
              Nobody "head-on" decrypts control signals. If you match the encoded signal and the real behavior of the DRON, the task of decoding control signals will be greatly simplified. In reality, the Iranians needed the DRON to shut off the engine and release the parachute. There is no need to break the entire control system.
              ps in general, if you are behind the progress - type in Google "hacking wireless networks"

              And who are you so smart at. Okay, let's task offhand. Here is the number for you
              111100011001101010000111101110110111100110101 (here I encrypted in binary code a digit (command) that is responsible for one of the UAV control parameters and is repeated 3 times.) There are tens or hundreds of such commands every second. You do not know the length of the code word and the frequency of passing each of the parameters (the algorithm for passing these commands is the most important secret). And I also forgot the floating algorithm. Those. There are several signal flow algorithms, which can change according to the following algorithm. And the complication can be wrapped up indefinitely. It is clear that no one does this, since and that's enough for you. So, my genius, decipher this simple task, and then when you solve this "noticing" we will talk about hacking the information systems of the "drone" as you put it.
              Quote: ism_ek
              I’m on WiFi - I’m watching a video - you will be able to intercept it with a DVD player; wink Here it is not a video encoding, but a protocol of interaction between a base station and a DRON.

              I almost forgot to answer you on the last opus. So the "protocol" is, in principle, an algorithm. Only for work in ordinary household networks, the protocol does not change, because the task is the opposite: "We need the client not to have problems with viewing, that is, to minimize these problems." Otherwise, we return to the first task. What you call a protocol changes for you in an arbitrary order (for me not, because I have an algorithm for changing the sequence of protocols, but for you yes). So offer me the principle of hacking such an information security system.
              1. Dnepropetrovsk
                Dnepropetrovsk 11 December 2012 01: 03
                0
                I put you a plus for specific reasons, but I do not agree with two fiddling comments. It discredits you a little.
          2. Gavrn
            Gavrn 8 December 2012 01: 34
            0
            Actually, signal interception is the biggest question. And an even bigger question is finding the signal we need. For example, we have a whole discipline called Signal Detection.
            All this is compounded by the fact that modern specialized means of communication should first of all ensure the secrecy of data transmission. Why are all kinds of frequency hopping and broadband radios so popular now - because they allow you to hide the signal, make it less noticeable. (And what are the opportunities offered by SHPS. In addition to high secrecy, there is a VERY big gain in the energy sector.) Encoding in wireless communications is mainly used to increase noise immunity.
            No, I do not exclude the right to life and other opinions, but in any case, they explained something like this to us at the university.

            And about the protruding ears, it's definitely either ours or the Chinese. If it had just been dropped somewhere, then one would have thought it would (the GPS signal is VERY easy to distort, if drones are really so critical to the presence of a GPS signal).
          3. tracer
            tracer 9 December 2012 00: 40
            0
            It is clear that our work through the IRAN. And these are our EARS sticking out ... It’s a pity that Yulia has intensified again in the zone .. He marks it for the presidency ... Here's the vish as a hint .. it works ...
    3. Lucky
      Lucky 7 December 2012 14: 22
      +3
      Well done, soon they will direct them to the Americans))
    4. baron.nn
      baron.nn 7 December 2012 14: 40
      -1
      edge:
      Interestingly, do we have similar technologies?
    5. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 7 December 2012 15: 49
      +3
      Do not consider me aggressive, warlike, but I want to see how the United States will fight not with the army of a banana country, but with an army relatively close in level. I want to see how the amers will be given on the nose, and even better if the arms and legs break!
      1. yurasumy
        yurasumy 7 December 2012 17: 22
        +5
        But they won’t. As they are fighting now. Coups. Color revolutions.
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 7 December 2012 18: 16
          +2
          ShturmKGB
          and with an army relatively close in level. I want to see how amers will be given on the nose,

          I remembered here the good old cartoon "Mowgli", when Sherkhan was given a nose and his cowardly jackal Tabaki said the catch phrase: "... and we will go to the North ... and wait there ..."

          1. Kaa
            Kaa 9 December 2012 01: 00
            +1
            Quote: Sergh
            I remembered here the good old cartoon "Mowgli

            Quote: yurasumy
            As they are fighting now. Coups. Color revolutions.

            ShturmKGB
            I want to see how the United States will fight not with the army of a banana country, but with an army relatively close in level.

            For the army to be close in level, the society must be monolithic ... IMHO ... so that there is no help "ginger orange dogs "
        2. Dinver
          Dinver 8 December 2012 23: 06
          0
          yurasumy Sorry, of course, but you are behind the times, deciphering using GPGPU calculations, using rainbow tables, even such a modern algorithm as AES256, has become easy and not forced, for a powerful gaming home PC with a premium 2-4 GPU, I am silent about the corporate segment and state capabilities ...
      2. merkel1961
        merkel1961 8 December 2012 22: 56
        0
        ShturmKGB, + with separation of the head.
    6. Kaa
      Kaa 9 December 2012 00: 52
      0
      Quote: hert
      , Iranians easily plant amers

      Down with the impudent cowboys from their drones !!!!! am
  2. Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 7 December 2012 08: 36
    +1
    I will not be amazed if ours participated in this in any way.
    1. apppa
      apppa 8 December 2012 23: 45
      0
      yeah, for example, metal for the manufacture of the apparatus was supplied
  3. predator.3
    predator.3 7 December 2012 08: 38
    +4
    Quote: hert
    the device was planted at the Iranian airfield with the help of a certain radio-technical system, which supposedly “slipped” a false signal to the GPS navigation system. After that, the drone itself landed in Iran, "thinking" that this is an American base in Afghanistan.


    Paraphrasing Pushkin "Ayda, Pushkin! Ayda, son of a bitch!" I would like to say: "Ayda, Persians! Ayda, sons of bitches!"

    December 15, 2011 A secret American drone fell into the hands of the Iranians. It is possible that electronic warfare tools developed by the Belarusian military-industrial complex helped this.
    inosmi.ru
  4. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 7 December 2012 08: 39
    +15


    These UAVs ... what they think, I don’t know. Spinning overhead, spinning, spinning ...
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 7 December 2012 15: 51
      +2
      "milafon" cool!)
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 7 December 2012 18: 07
      +4
      here are the pictures on Iranian TV
  5. saveall
    saveall 7 December 2012 09: 19
    +14
    And so it turns out that all these drones and other high technologies are suitable only for war with savages. A less developed country can easily find cheap countermeasures to all these super expensive toys. So it is necessary again, as in the old days, hoping for the good old soldier.
  6. demon ada
    demon ada 7 December 2012 09: 19
    +12
    those. there are at least two news
    1. Americans spit on international law and the sovereignty of air borders.
    2. a miracle of technology - i.e. unmanned aerial vehicles are very vulnerable.
    article plus
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 7 December 2012 12: 20
      +2
      Quote: demon ada
      1. Americans spit on international law and the sovereignty of air borders.

      This news at lunch for a hundred years. remember the same U-2.
  7. Rus_87
    Rus_87 7 December 2012 09: 30
    +2
    The Iranians, of course, are fine fellows ... (maybe we are also great fellows, they say our Autobase there worked in both cases bully ) But I think this "freebie" will end soon, which prevents the amers from putting some kind of self-destruction system on the drone ... let's say the drone sat down, and within a certain time it is necessary to enter a certain code, which of course only the real owners of the UAV know, otherwise the UAV explode into small pieces ... meaning then in Autobase what ?...
    1. Wertynskiy
      Wertynskiy 7 December 2012 11: 16
      +2
      Then it will be necessary to increase the weight of the UAV, which is quite problematic. And if the Iranians were able to switch the UAV to their control panel, then hacking the destruction code, I think the task is less difficult.
      In any case, the Iranians fellows, were able to find freedom DUBIN AGAINST MANY WISE TECHNOLOGY!
    2. Lucky
      Lucky 7 December 2012 15: 00
      -2
      Carpool and picks up this code))
    3. Ratibor12
      Ratibor12 7 December 2012 16: 53
      +2
      Quote: Rus_87
      The Iranians, of course, are great ... (maybe we are also great, they say our Autobase worked there in both cases) But I think this "freebie" will soon end, which prevents the amers from putting some kind of self-destruction system on the drone ... let's say the drone sat down, and in within a certain time, it is necessary to enter a certain code, which of course only the real owners of the UAV know, otherwise the UAV will explode into small pieces ... then the point is in the Autobase


      And even if so! The UAV will still be lost. Enemy technology can be captured, or simply destroyed. Both options are acceptable.
  8. Enjoy
    Enjoy 7 December 2012 09: 30
    +1
    Good news. It seems that if Iran can fly American drones of various types, ours will definitely be able to privatize them, if necessary laughing
  9. demon ada
    demon ada 7 December 2012 09: 38
    +7
    Rus_87,
    about the bookmark ....
    the more difficult the operation of the product, the better
    and suddenly at the place of basing they forget to enter the code a couple of times,
    and then even minus a couple of devices.
    1. Rus_87
      Rus_87 7 December 2012 10: 43
      0
      Well, you can, for example, not manually enter the code, but for example from a flesh-drive, inserted just such a USB flash drive into the special. connector on the BPL and you're done. As for the complexity of the service staff, these "birds" are already complex, and in terms of complexity they are not much inferior to piloted aircraft of 4-5 generations ...
  10. Pon69
    Pon69 7 December 2012 09: 56
    +5
    In the 90s, the Swedes made a super-duper plane, essentially a flying robot. They stuffed it with electronics for the most indulgent, publicized. And they decided to test it in close to combat conditions. At a distance of 2-3 km from the aircraft, Soviet-made ammunition of the 60s was blown up. Undermining that gives EMR. And everything died. As a result, the money thrown out of the order of several watermelons cu and time and made flu. Therefore, any super electronic crap is incapacitated by the means of almost a century ago.
    1. 73petia
      73petia 7 December 2012 21: 44
      +1
      In fact, not all electronics are easily disabled by EMI. There is a technology for protecting electronics from exposure to an electromagnetic pulse. But of course, not absolutely the entire spectrum of electronic devices. But anyway.
  11. Rumata
    Rumata 7 December 2012 10: 00
    -8
    The author of the article is so gullible, the Iranians said that they put him in prison, it means they certainly did, he couldn’t be the one who sat down due to a malfunction or was captured in another way, they put him in prison.
    Regarding the last paragraph, it turned out to break the connection of the UAV with the base, but taking it under full control is on the verge of fiction. To realize this is so difficult that until I see normal evidence I will not believe
    1. saveall
      saveall 7 December 2012 10: 14
      +4
      Well, it turns out that breaking the UAV’s connection with the base is a very good option. Why take it under full control then? It is enough to break the connection and here is the loss of a multi-million dollar toy. In a real war, how much are they willing to lose such toys? Of course, I understand that they can print green candy wrappers as much as they want, but there is a limit to everything ...
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 8 December 2012 15: 57
        0
        As of 2011 in the US Air Force:
        RQ-1 produced 75 - in stock 30 Unit cost $ 4,03 million.
        RQ-4 Global Hawk produced 13 - in stock 13 Unit 30 unit cost: $ 215 million.
        MQ-1 Predator produced 285 - in stock 125 Unit cost $ 4,03 million.
        MQ-9 Reaper produced 74 - in stock 27 Unit cost $ 30,3 million.

        Total as of January 18 2010 years US Air Force lost 58 MQ-1 / RQ-1 Predator.
    2. Dimon Lviv
      Dimon Lviv 7 December 2012 11: 00
      +5
      Read the article carefully, study materials on the topic thoughtfully:
      In evidence of the words of the Vice Admiral, photographs were taken that captured the captured troop drone and Iranian specialists.


      the device was planted at the Iranian airfield with the help of a certain radio engineering system, which supposedly “slipped” a false signal to the GPS navigation system
      - technically it is possible, it was applied once, why not use this and the other? Nobody talks about taking control - a drone can be hijacked in hundreds of other ways, for example, by dropping a metal network on top of it))) Or by detonating an ammunition simulating the EMP of a nuclear explosion nearby, or by irradiating it with a device that produces such radiation, or - as the Russian imagination suggests, I apologize - Iranian specialists! ))) wink
    3. Wertynskiy
      Wertynskiy 7 December 2012 11: 19
      +1
      Quote: Rumata
      To realize this is so difficult that until I see normal evidence I will not believe

      And what evidence will they provide? Is there a guided tour? Video provided - and enough. Whoever needs it will recognize its swallow!
    4. Cynic
      Cynic 7 December 2012 12: 25
      +1
      Quote: Rumata
      he sat down due to a malfunction or was captured in another way,

      How far AI has not yet been invented and therefore the presence of the self-preservation instinct is cumulative. but about other ways ... This is for example what?
    5. Zlyden.Zlo
      Zlyden.Zlo 7 December 2012 14: 01
      0
      We expect - hardware radio monitoring, channel lock remote control aircraft "Rosehip-Aero" In the internet on this topic, look for
    6. iwind
      iwind 7 December 2012 14: 56
      0
      Rumata Well, judging by the number of cons there are many gullibles. Landing RQ-170 frank not even installation, but stupidly took a little known video of 2009
      http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a4_1260779886 и радостно завяли ,что мы его посадили , а потом получилось вот это http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mw9owPsv4
      Now I feel the same story. Fell, they picked it up and the Iranians say again they planted !!!
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 7 December 2012 18: 40
        0
        Quote: iwind
        and happily wilted that we planted him

        Comrade, I did not understand you with your montages. If the military gave a short statement about something, then believe me, there will be no shortage of directors from correspondents and newspapermen, they will concoct "as expected" at a stroke. Although I don't see anything prejudicial here, well, they showed the footage, so what? This is very often observed, fortunately, though, that the model coincides, otherwise news about the Yak-130 is slipped, and the MiG-AT flashes in the frame. Yes, at the expense of little-known personnel, you are sad here, I sympathize. Well, they said, like they planted them themselves and to hell with them, even if they are at least a little like heroes, although we know that for sure everything was wrong or almost ...
        1. Windbreak
          Windbreak 7 December 2012 19: 02
          0
          Quote: Sergh
          This is very often observed, although it’s a good thing that the model coincides, and it sometimes happens to slip the news about the Yak-130, and the MiG-AT flashes in the frame.
          here the situation is the same. P-175 Polecat with 2 engines give out for the RQ-170 Sentinel which has 1 engine
          1. Sergh
            Sergh 7 December 2012 19: 27
            0
            Quote: Burel
            here the same situation. P-175 Polecat with 2 engines issue

            This is all the bells and whistles of wretched reporters and correspondents of television channels. But in the end with the RQ-170, everything turned out to be true or almost ... where the amers agreed on everything by swallowing a shovel.
            In this case, it is too early to speculate, although no one will do such harsh pronouncements, so something serious has happened. We will wait. From the video below from smprofi the latest news from December 4 is visible.
  12. USNik
    USNik 7 December 2012 10: 51
    +2
    I wonder what will happen if the US military drone type ripper hits Amer? Blame Syria, Russia or Iran? ETOGES is so convenient, it seems, the management was stolen from us and meanly struck at our peaceful base ...
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 7 December 2012 12: 31
      +2
      Quote: USNik
      I wonder what will happen if

      This is for John
      1. Gorchakov
        Gorchakov 7 December 2012 20: 53
        +1
        Cynic,
        Who's that? Is this the famous American pilot, whom the Vietnamese rigidly re-qualified as a world-famous clown? And what can he know except anti-Russian slogans?
  13. KAZAKHSTAN
    KAZAKHSTAN 7 December 2012 11: 46
    +2
    Here is my opinion: the USSR did not lag behind in UAV technologies at all, remember the same Buran space shuttle that flew into space and back in unmanned mode ... Perhaps the USSR introduced its agents of engineers who "put" the US army on the UAV, and the USSR itself, knowing about the vulnerability of robots began to develop AVTOBAZA and other means of electronic warfare ... Let's remember the same stealth f117, the author of this crazy idea, a native of the Union, and so here
  14. Windbreak
    Windbreak 7 December 2012 12: 08
    -2
    interesting video "landing" will also make a fake, as it was with the RQ-170?
    1. Windbreak
      Windbreak 7 December 2012 18: 01
      0
      Specially for minus players. Video "RQ-170 Sentinel landing in Iran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mw9owPsv4 actually mounting a video of another P-175 Polecat drone http://www.metacafe.com/watch/ 256412 / polecat_uav /
      1. iwind
        iwind 7 December 2012 18: 46
        -1
        windbreak, knows there is such a saying. If you want to create yourself an enemy, change something. Now you tried to change their belief in landing.
        People just though to believe it, even brought atobase for great certainty.
        I am almost sure that in the next topic about UAVs, the same thing will again be from the same people.
  15. snek
    snek 7 December 2012 12: 15
    0
    Sentinel - yes - a serious trophy. Well, this is so, a trifle.
  16. smprofi
    smprofi 7 December 2012 12: 15
    +1
    and here is the video

  17. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 7 December 2012 12: 30
    +2
    Well, here’s a wonderful picture about moaning, about the need for unmanned fighters, bombers, etc. One tactical nuclear explosion or amy and all this expensive electronics will fall to the ground like mosquitoes from a repellent. I think that at the moment, drones (drums) are suitable only for the Papuans and are a way of pulling money.
  18. toguns
    toguns 7 December 2012 12: 49
    +13
    Iran-USA 2-0
    1. toguns
      toguns 7 December 2012 12: 57
      0
      how so ???
  19. Pimply
    Pimply 7 December 2012 12: 59
    0
    Well, for starters, you need to understand whose drone is the United States, or Arabs, who actively use the same model. Most likely the second, since the States last time recognized their UAV.
    Secondly, the loss of UAVs is not something extraordinary. They fall regularly, and an emergency parachute fall is a common thing. Given how many UAVs are hanging out over Iran ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 December 2012 13: 05
      0
      Quote: Pimply
      Pimply

      Zhenya, I posted the news in an article on a nuclear test in the USA, can you comment on the end of the Cold War? You said yesterday that it ended wink
    2. Green
      Green 7 December 2012 13: 07
      +3
      Yeah. UAVs often go astray. (Although I didn’t see such information with the Israeli ones, I’m sure there are facts) In Afghanistan, there’s even an indication on the corps that a fee is paid for the return of a drone, which is not feeble by Afghan standards (a few kilobaxes). And the Afghan peasants return (and maybe the Majahideen for such money do not disdain). There are dozens of such cases.
      1. Ratibor12
        Ratibor12 7 December 2012 17: 24
        +3
        Quote: Verde
        Yeah. UAVs often go astray.


        Well, just like in one song:

        Somewhere far trains fly
        Drone goes astray
        He went to Iran ... this is forever!
        After all, you have to follow him on foot!
    3. beard999
      beard999 7 December 2012 15: 03
      +1
      Quote: Pimply
      whose drone - States, Ali Arabs

      And where does the information from the “Arabs” have “ScanEagle”? There is no evidence of this either on the Insitu website or on the Boeing website. A wretched English-language wiki, speaks of the presence of a LHC, in addition to the United States, in Australia, Canada, Colombia, the Netherlands, Poland and Singapore.
      Where did you find the “Arabs”? Is there a confirmation link?
      Quote: Pimply
      They fall regularly, and an emergency parachute fall is common

      Delirium, it’s kind of ... In your opinion, if a technical malfunction occurs over the enemy’s territory, the drone just stupidly opens the parachute, lands calmly, and thus falls into the hands of the enemy completely. Do you yourself believe in what you wrote?
      But it doesn’t even matter. Why did you get the idea that ScanEagle has a parachute? It has a very original way of landing: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/ScanEagle_recovery_on_USS_Osc
      ar_Austin.jpg.
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 7 December 2012 19: 09
        +1
        Quote: beard999
        besides the USA, in Australia, Canada

        It is fully possible that in this way the amers' version will remove suspicion and throw information into the network (so, by the way), that: "it seems like we and the Arabs, when I don't remember a bit of BPL, were thrown into the change (money) little things in my pockets. " And to those (Arabs) amers explained: "... you take our kalyachyok over there, then we will pay for the purchase."
        And like the Skem, the Iranians took this ScanEagle, it doesn't matter, here the same effect may be, ours took it, and the Iranians said: "... here's a gift for you for the New Year, boast ... but don't harness us "!
        All participants in order, but due to secrecy, purely on a different profile:

  20. iwind
    iwind 7 December 2012 13: 23
    +3
    Once I read about the RQ-170 in a highly specialized forum ... There was an analysis of the situation. I found something from memory.
    Now compare the two videos
    1 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a4_1260779886 date 2009
    and one of the videos of the RQ landing by Iran.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Mw9owPsv4 дата 2011.
    Strange as it seems, they look like the military bases of Iran and the USA in Kandahar ... Mistek.
    1. Windbreak
      Windbreak 7 December 2012 17: 46
      +1
      here is the complete first video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/256412/polecat_uav/ and date 2007
  21. KAZAKHSTAN
    KAZAKHSTAN 7 December 2012 13: 39
    +1
    The shell, by the way, is also able to conduct electronic warfare, and in general electronic warfare is power !!! UAVs can be landed or drowned in the sea, missiles can be taken away from the target with the help of waxes. The states have screwed up hard with their super technologies !! Someone minuses, I can’t understand who ... Romka must be Roman
  22. Russian sniper
    Russian sniper 7 December 2012 13: 57
    0
    What can I say about this, handsome Iranians. good They got a second unmanned bird. A good gift for the development of their own technologies. hi
  23. Mobidic
    Mobidic 7 December 2012 14: 30
    +3
    And without identifying marks, the handwriting of the American model building is noticeable
  24. Karish
    Karish 7 December 2012 14: 40
    +1
    The Iranians ’comments must first be filtered out, and then divided by 100. It seems that if they don’t report another revolutionary breakthrough in the manufacture of military equipment (in which they have long been ahead of the rest), then these days they land UAVs.
    Somehow I do not believe this. Oranges do not grow on aspen.
    1. wax
      wax 7 December 2012 15: 34
      +3
      They do not grow on aspen, but if they grow, then maybe. it’s not an aspen, maybe Michurin was vaccinated there?
    2. Green
      Green 8 December 2012 10: 23
      +3
      Given that the Iranians insist that they shot down Hamas during a cloud pillar:
      2 F-16s
      1 attack helicopter
      1 Ship of the Navy of Israel

      Captured pilots in an amount of at least 5 pcs.

      Developed tactics to overcome the dome using false targets.

      Shaherizada with her "one thousand and one nights" is crying nervously aside.

      But the drone could really get lost and fall on the territory of Iran. there is nothing extraordinary about this.
      1. Cavas
        Cavas 8 December 2012 10: 41
        +1
        Quote: Verde
        But the drone could really get lost and fall on the territory of Iran. there is nothing extraordinary about this.

        Of course I got lost, no one doubts, with the help of the complex of executive electronic intelligence (IRTR) 1L222 "Avtobaza". wassat
  25. Professor
    Professor 7 December 2012 15: 27
    -3
    As it turned out later, the device was planted at the Iranian airfield with the help of some kind of radio system, which supposedly “slipped” a false signal to the GPS navigation system.

    Only a complete amateur could write such a thing, all who have been more or less involved in this topic simply twist their fingers at the temple. fool
    1. Blat
      Blat 7 December 2012 16: 13
      -4
      Professor, I completely agree with this. I'm not a professional, but a complete amateur in this matter, but reprogramming a UAV in flight is complete nonsense. At least you need to know at what frequency the UAV receives commands. It’s hard to believe what’s going on with them data transmission from the operator to the UAV and vice versa at the same frequency. You can intercept the signal, but how to understand who it is intended for))))))))))))))))) there are just a thousand of these signals on the air )))))))))))
      1. Professor
        Professor 7 December 2012 16: 29
        -2
        These signals jump from frequency to frequency across the entire spectrum thousands of times per second and with a sequence known only to the user. And the signal itself is encrypted, intercept the ones and zeros and you will decipher them for 50 years, and not the next day the UAVs will still change them. It is possible to replace the encrypted GPS signal only if you do not do it from the ground and if you already have the key to the cipher. These UAVs have a so-called Controlled Reception Pattern Antenna (CRPA) that uses software to synthesize narrow beams directed towards the intended location of GPS satellites, resulting in the antenna being "blind" in all other directions. The most advanced antenna designs of this type produce so-called "zeros" in the antenna pattern aimed at sources of interference to further suppress their influence. And where did the inertial navigation system on ring laser gyroscopes go? Was she also changed in flight?
        1. Blat
          Blat 7 December 2012 16: 41
          0
          Well, you told me what I’ve come to by stirring part of my convolutions myself. I just had such an object as special equipment. Others are enough only for urya.
        2. Uncle
          Uncle 7 December 2012 17: 41
          0
          Quote: Professor
          encrypted GPS signal
          Is the GPS signal encrypted? And does the cipher change? But what about the ZhPS navigator on my ship? How does he change ciphers?
          1. Professor
            Professor 7 December 2012 17: 53
            0
            But what about the ZhPS navigator on my ship?

            Do you have an American military ship using not an open civil GPS signal, but an encrypted military one? Then ask your non-commissioned officer about this ...
        3. mazdie
          mazdie 7 December 2012 23: 20
          0
          If this is true, then it turns out that someone merged for ideological or selfish reasons the entire military part of the gps system.
        4. Green
          Green 8 December 2012 10: 27
          0
          Not quite so professor. Maybe we don’t know something about Iran, maybe while the whole World including leading scientific centers of Russia, Israel, the USA and Europe conjure over quantum computers, Iran has already built a spacecraft with a height of several gigokubits. For QC, decrypting such a signal would not be a problem. You underestimate the power of the green men with whom the Iranians came into contact.
  26. Kir
    Kir 7 December 2012 16: 46
    +1
    Interesting in this regard are the relatively recent US operations with the use of tamahawks, when a decent part of them missed, and then on one of our central channels a conversation was shown with one of our scientists, who did not deny anything or confirm with a smile how to deceive the system as they say draw your own conclusions !!!
    And the fact that some doubt their personal business, but as they say, there are questions about anything in any country in the world except how we have ADF machines, not to mention earlier models, or our "friends" keep it secret, with their phonoforony that they are the coolest specialists, but most likely they have not grown up !!!
    1. Blat
      Blat 7 December 2012 16: 52
      -2
      this most decent part was a 2 or 3 tomahawk for the entire campaign. and all this was savored for a week on Russian channels. in the Pentagon probably didn’t see how he told how to deceive?)))))))))))))))) )))))))) this is the yellow press, but on tv.nothing without denying, but without confirming he told)))))))))))))))))) I drew conclusions.
      1. Kir
        Kir 7 December 2012 18: 07
        +1
        Well, yes, by the principle of Takum that I don’t know and didn’t see. And I didn’t understand the principle. ALL is a fairy tale, you can stop by, and about the loss of the tomahawks, they told me everything right away, straightforward soul, and believe not to believe everyone’s personal business.
        1. Professor
          Professor 7 December 2012 18: 15
          +1
          Explain Convincingly how exactly did they intercept him then we'll talk. Regarding the tomahawks, they have been applied over their history over 6000! Naturally, not everyone reached the goal. Even if their accident rate was only 1%, then we can observe several dozen missed CDs.
          1. Kir
            Kir 7 December 2012 20: 57
            +1
            Dear professor, everything is just like a magician, if the secret is revealed there will be no secrets of skill, to whom he should know how! A private affair of everyone, sorry I repeat, to believe or not to believe.
          2. mazdie
            mazdie 7 December 2012 23: 23
            0
            And how do you know how many of the 6000 tomahawks did not reach the goal and for what reasons?
            1. Professor
              Professor 7 December 2012 23: 27
              +1
              The vast majority flew otherwise all museums and landfills of the world would be littered with tomahawks that did not fly
              1. Gavrn
                Gavrn 8 December 2012 01: 59
                +2
                The principle is simple: we put a signal of comparable power next to the GPS signal, we get beats that lead to sufficiently strong signal distortions that allow us to deflect the rocket (it’s not known where). There is no need to intercept the missile control signal or drown it out.
                The inability to thus distort the GLONASS signal, by the way, is positioned as its main advantage.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 8 December 2012 09: 48
                  0
                  Cruise missile navigation methods


                  The problems associated with basic GPS accuracy are gradually solved by introducing wide-band GPS (Wide Area Differential GPS) methods in which correction signals valid for a given geographical location are broadcast to a GPS receiver over the air (in the case of American missiles, the WAGE -Wide Area GPS Enhancement is used). The main sources of signals of this system are radio navigation beacons and satellites in geostationary orbit. The most accurate technologies of this kind, developed in the USA in the 1990s, can correct GPS errors up to several inches in three dimensions and are accurate enough to get a rocket into the open hatch of an armored vehicle.

                  The problems with noise immunity and “repeated image” turned out to be the most difficult to solve. They led to the introduction of the technology of so-called “smart” antennas, usually based on “digital beam forming” in software. The idea behind this technology is simple, but as usual difficult in detail. A conventional GPS antenna receives signals from the entire upper hemisphere above the rocket, thus including GPS satellites, as well as enemy interference. A so-called controlled-pattern antenna (Controlled Reception Pattern Antenna, CRPA) using software synthesizes narrow beams aimed at the intended location of GPS satellites, resulting in an antenna that is blind in all other directions. The most advanced designs of antennas of this type produce so-called "zeros" in the antenna pattern aimed at sources of interference to further suppress their influence.
                  Advanced GPS receivers provide a high level of accuracy and robust noise immunity to GPS sources located on the ground. They are less effective against complex sources of GPS interference deployed on satellites, unmanned aerial vehicles or aerostats.
                  The latest generation of the American cruise missile uses GPS-inertial guidance system complements its installed in the nose of the missile digital thermal imaging camera, aims to provide opportunities like DSMAC against stationary targets with appropriate software and the possibility of automatic recognition of images and against moving targets, such as antiaircraft rocket systems or rocket launchers. Data lines, as a rule, originate from JTIDS / Link-16 technology, which is being implemented to enable the weapon to be retargeted in the event that a mobile target has changed its location while the rocket is on the march. The use of this function mainly depends on users with intelligence and the ability to detect such movements of the target.
                  1. Gavrn
                    Gavrn 8 December 2012 13: 06
                    0
                    In simple words, over time they came to a serious complication of military systems, which entails their serious rise in price. And then questions about the reliability of the system climb.
                    From what follows the logical assumption that the GPS coordinate system should be an additional system in military complexes in need of navigation. And no matter how tempting it is to use it as the main one, you need to look for simpler and more reliable methods for determining the location.
                    Which, in fact, is expressed in the conclusions in the article, the link to which is given by uv. Professor.

                    By the way, as far as I understand the logic of the above text, the term "re-image" is more correctly translated as signal fading.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 8 December 2012 13: 35
                      0
                      From what follows the logical assumption that the GPS coordinate system should be an additional system in military complexes in need of navigation.

                      And KR and advanced UAVs are.

                      By the way, as far as I understand the logic of the above text, the term "re-image" is more correctly translated as signal fading.

                      rather double signal
                    2. beard999
                      beard999 8 December 2012 16: 25
                      0
                      Quote: GAVRN
                      In simple words, over time they came to a serious complication of military systems, which entails their serious rise in price

                      But this is the most interesting moment. The "Professor" (and not just him) as a rule gives a general set of possible measures that make it most difficult to interfere with satellite navigation systems on carriers (in particular, UAVs and RCs). No one argues that adaptive narrow-band rejection filtering, the use of adaptive antennas, etc. etc. can be effective. But you try to ask a more substantive question - on which specific UAV or CR, and what specific activities are ALREADY implemented, then there will be one verbiage in response. General theoretical calculations - please, and where they are already implemented (in detail) - nor any evidence.
                      The fact that it is quite possible to interfere with GPS interference has long been proven for a long time http://gps-club.ru/yandex_news/detail.php?ID=58667 and http://www.km.ru/referats/1B5D5417DBD04929ACE01600D674C2CF. Of course, the links in question are civil systems. But the other day, (in the topic of discussing the Rosehip complex), I already gave a link to the Diabazol complex, which interferes with the military GPS signal http://www.protek-vrn.ru/production/reb/diabazol. html Other Russian and Belarusian developers have similar developments. Demonstrated similar developments and China at the show in Zhuhai-2012. “Aircraft conversion”, which has been declaring for three generations of jamming stations, describes the principle of operation of a second-generation digital jamming transmitter: “... automatically determines the operating frequency of the“ object ”of signal emission. Having received a part of the navigation radio message, it remembers it, makes its own signal many times stronger and then repeats it several times on the air at the same frequency, from several directions (simultaneously from 4 or more PPs). Signals from the receiver are much more powerful than signals from satellites, which allows them to penetrate into their input path along the side lobes of the radiation pattern even if GPS receivers are equipped with narrowly oriented antennas. ” According to Aviation Conversion, the effective jamming area for military GPS signals is determined by direct visibility (“at a flight height of 25 m (Tomahawk) up to 20 km”).
                      I suppose, to say that the interference immunity of GPS navigation (including military) on the UAV and the Kyrgyz Republic is resolved, definitely not necessary. Although, in my opinion, the future is still not a “hindrance”, for such systems are http://gurkhan.blogspot.ru/2012/09/blog-post_4531.html.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 8 December 2012 16: 43
                        -1
                        automatically determines the operating frequency of the "object" of the radiation signal.

                        Your system will fail at this stage - do not determine. Of course, you can suppress the whole spectrum with white noise, illuminate the UAV thermal imager, change the magnetic field of the earth, produce a high-altitude nuclear explosion and even disable a laser gyroscope (I can’t even imagine how), change the terrain - good luck. hi
                      2. beard999
                        beard999 8 December 2012 20: 29
                        +2
                        Quote: Professor
                        Your system will crash already at this stage - do not determine

                        In order to claim that the “system will fail” you need to know at least something about this system. Your knowledge is at the level of "crow's bark". All the snowstorm that they write there, you are dragging mindlessly here. At the same time, I want to inform you that you are arguing not with me, but with the organization as the developer (I gave their opinion). Do you think that you have more knowledge in the issue under discussion than they have? But so far, you have not demonstrated any knowledge at all. One skipping demagogy about the “magnetic field of the earth” and “terrain” (by the way, your imagination is rich). And judging by your statement that it is not possible to intercept “part of the navigation radio message” from a GPS satellite, your knowledge is not even at zero, but in the deepest negative. I’m not going to convince you of anything. If you want to live in the joy of your own errors - the flag is in your hands.
  27. KAZAKHSTAN
    KAZAKHSTAN 7 December 2012 16: 58
    +2
    The states have one current left ... to bring the ships closer to the shore and shoot Iran from the RELSOTRON with IRON DISCS !!!
  28. dr.barhan
    dr.barhan 7 December 2012 19: 59
    0
    In principle, this is good news! If this is true, then it is worth praising the Iranian specialists (and those who helped them - they planted him not without outside help ...) If this is a "duck", then it is worth praising the Iranian specialists for raising a wave in the media. After all, how much can you hear that in the United States everything is the very best and everyone should be equal to them ?! In terms of information war, Iran may be losing, but such maneuvers (this news) will make the allies think and warn against careless movements.
    And one more thing ... You shouldn't think that the Iranian army is an uncontrollable herd of unshaven fanatics armed with old weapons of fifty or seventy years of age ... We are not in the XIX-XX centuries! Lacking the appropriate weapons and technologies (it does not matter whether they are produced in Iran or purchased from friendly countries), the Americans and others like them would have brought "democracy" there in the form of lead and green portraits of their presidents long ago ...
    1. Blat
      Blat 7 December 2012 23: 59
      -1
      Iran’s military infrastructure will last several days with a massive strike and the more they will be bombed, the more Iranians will be demoralized. Americans use the fact that usually expecting death is worse than death itself. Psychologically influencing the enemy and confirming this effect with action can achieve more than one year of equal battles
  29. KAZAKHSTAN
    KAZAKHSTAN 7 December 2012 20: 10
    +2
    Knapsack-E (Defense Systems
    Daily, 26.10.2001). This complex was created as a means of defense
    mobile RES from high-precision weapons. The new system consists of an antenna,
    high-power generator, control subsystem, measuring
    installation and power source. "Satchel-E" can be made in
    stationary and mobile versions (mass of actual military equipment -
    about five tons). The power of its radiation in a pulse with a duration of 10–20
    ns in the centimeter wavelength range exceeds 500 MW. Such parameters, according
    Rosoboronexport’s approval allows hitting guidance systems and
    electronic equipment for precision-guided munitions and guided missiles
    at a distance of 10 km in a 60-degree sector.
    "Shooting" impulses through the antenna at 50dB "gun", as seen from
    of the graph presented, can completely disable the electronics of the aircraft
    at a distance of 12-14 kilometers, and serious failures of navigation systems,
    endangering the performance of a combat mission will be observed on
    40 kilometers away!
    There is another antenna, at 45dB, which provides noticeably less
    range of defeat (it is about it that is said at the beginning of the message, where
    about a sector of 60 degrees), but with a much wider beam. what
    useful when dealing with high-speed small-sized targets, accurate
    guidance on which is difficult or impossible, such as adjustable
    shells or small-sized and non-radiocontrast UAVs.
    The essence of the idea is to create a voltage on the target’s surface that exceeds
    kilovolt / meter, which causes breakdowns that damage electronics
    apparatus. The system works with standard tools
    detection and control of air defense forces - by radar stations and
    command centers.

    Knapsack-E (Defense Systems
    Daily, 26.10.2001). This complex was created as a means of defense
    mobile RES from high-precision weapons. The new system consists of an antenna,
    high-power generator, control subsystem, measuring
    installation and power source. "Satchel-E" can be made in
    stationary and mobile versions (mass of actual military equipment -
    about five tons). The power of its radiation in a pulse with a duration of 10–20
    ns in the centimeter wavelength range exceeds 500 MW. Such parameters, according
    Rosoboronexport’s approval allows hitting guidance systems and
    electronic equipment for precision-guided munitions and guided missiles
    at a distance of 10 km in a 60-degree sector.
    "Shooting" impulses through the antenna at 50dB "gun", as seen from
    of the graph presented, can completely disable the electronics of the aircraft
    at a distance of 12-14 kilometers, and serious failures of navigation systems,
    endangering the performance of a combat mission will be observed on
    40 kilometers away!
    There is another antenna, at 45dB, which provides noticeably less
    range of defeat (it is about it that is said at the beginning of the message, where
    about a sector of 60 degrees), but with a much wider beam. what
    useful when dealing with high-speed small-sized targets, accurate
    guidance on which is difficult or impossible, such as adjustable
    shells or small-sized and non-radiocontrast UAVs.
    The essence of the idea is to create a voltage on the target’s surface that exceeds
    kilovolt / meter, which causes breakdowns that damage electronics
    apparatus. The system works with standard tools
    detection and control of air defense forces - by radar stations and
    command centers.
    1. Tourist Breakfast
      Tourist Breakfast 9 December 2012 00: 51
      +1
      Here it is this prodigy:


      To cover an area with a maximum radius of only 10 km is too healthy and expensive a fool.
    2. tracer
      tracer 9 December 2012 01: 16
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      Although the secrets do not reveal the last (God forbid not the last).
  30. Zabvo
    Zabvo 8 December 2012 09: 43
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    Super news, keep it up! Hmm. I have a question for the experts: Is it possible to intercept and redirect Tomahawks as well?
    1. Gavrn
      Gavrn 8 December 2012 13: 12
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      If you tell how tomahawks are controlled and how you took control of an unmanned vehicle, you might think. smile

      But in general, redirecting cruise missiles to where an outsider needs to be is hardly possible. It seems like all the necessary information is loaded into them before the start. But it is quite possible to deflect the missile off course to "land" it at some distance from its target.
      1. Blat
        Blat 8 December 2012 13: 29
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        in order to reject, I understand you need to at least know where this rocket is headed))))))))))))))))))))))))))
      2. Professor
        Professor 8 December 2012 13: 37
        +1
        It seems like they load all the necessary information before the start.

        On extreme versions of the tomahawks, there is a command communication channel for retargeting RCs in flight.
  31. bart74
    bart74 8 December 2012 13: 29
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    Glad for the Iranians!
  32. yacht
    yacht 8 December 2012 13: 30
    +3
    Avtobaza has nothing to do with it at all, I understand the enthusiasm of the jingoistic patriots, but you have to be objective, Avtobaza does not intercept and plant drones.

    And yes, the Iranians are great.
  33. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 8 December 2012 17: 11
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    A few months after the interception, the Iranian military announced that the trophy had been fully studied and the construction of its analogue had begun.


    It would be better if they built a new fighter,
    And then they fly on old American trash F-14 and "Phantoms"
  34. bremest
    bremest 8 December 2012 19: 31
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    Even in Soviet times, our scientists foresaw this kind of problem, so they abandoned the widespread development of unmanned aircraft. The cornerstone of our military thought was the human factor.
    Let’s imagine if the control of an attack drone is intercepted and those who take control will strike this owner from this drone ... Despite the successes of the USA and Israel, it is necessary to work carefully in this direction.
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 9 December 2012 01: 18
      +1
      Quote: bremest
      Back in Soviet times, our scientists foresaw this kind of problem, so they abandoned the widespread development of unmanned aircraft.

      Not true. In the Soviet Socialist Republic / Russia, until the end of the 90's, work on UAVs was an important area.
      The photo shows a supersonic unmanned reconnaissance aircraft Tu-123 "Yastreb", operated in the Air Force since 1964.

      Alas, over the past 12 years, Americans have gone far ahead in the development of unmanned aircraft