Everyone needs a break. We will come later

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Everyone needs a break. We will come later

Well, the fanfare about the liberation of Artemovsk has ceased. The most radical couch patriots celebrated the victory in the NWO. Less radical - victory in the battle, which was compared with Stalingrad.

The fighters are busy with the usual work of cleaning up the city and demining the territory. The "funerals" are pulling out the corpses of the fighters from the rubble... The usual work in such cases is going on to restore elementary order in the liberated territories.



The enemy, also habitually, lies about the fact that Bakhmut is already practically surrounded and, again, according to the already traditional scheme of dill propaganda, that the Russians will allegedly soon run away from this city, as they once did from Kherson.

Even that predictable "offensive" of Ukrainians on the border regions of Russia has already taken place. Again, the Ukrainians did not come up with any zest. We used a method that has already been tested previously. Even the performers are the same.

The suicide bombers were assigned traitors to the Motherland, from among our former citizens, who simply have nowhere to go. From the very beginning of this adventure, it was clear that none of this DRG would be released. Which is basically what happened. At the time of writing, there were unofficial reports of the destruction of 39 and the capture of 4 saboteurs.

Only one event that was announced by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, did not take place. I also held this point of view. The liberation of Artemovsk releases significant forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Yes, and those 6 brigades that were intended for the offensive still exist.

I will express a seditious thought about the reason for the inaction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Alas, the very problem of the role of the individual in stories. Khokhols really lack the determination and quick decisions of General Zaluzhny. I am more and more inclined to the version that Zaluzhny is really seriously wounded. At least I would like to believe it.

Bakhmut disappeared, Artemovsk returned, what's next?


Indeed, what's next. Who and where will attack? And will there be at all?

These questions are of interest to many today. And again, the most radical ones are already "advancing on Kharkov." Less radical - "liberate the territory of the DPR and LPR." And pessimists consider the remnants of Russian units that will be able to attack at all. Exactly the same situation on the other side.

But I'll start with something else. From why the battle for Bakhmut became so epic. Why have we been messing around with this city for so long.

Yes, Bakhmut is the key to a fairly powerful fortified area, which includes Kramatorsk, Slavyansk and Avdeevka. It was necessary to take it. But why so long?

Yesterday I saw a commemorative medal of the Wagner PMC with the interesting name "Bakhmut Meat Grinder". I think this modestly decorated, in the style of awards for the capture of cities in the Great Patriotic War, the medal will be another award that will be proud of. The reverse side of this medal contains the answer to all questions. Direct text.

It was impossible to take Bakhmut in any other way than by storm. Therefore, it was decided by the leadership of the PMC and General Surovikin to use assault units. Start the same "meat grinder". Therefore, the period for which the operation was carried out should be considered not in days and months, but ... in the losses of the enemy.

And these losses are calculated in quite serious numbers. The total losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, according to various sources, range from 130 to 150 thousand people. Of these, irretrievable from 45 to 57 thousand people. The loss of equipment and weapons is also impressive. alone tanks over 100 destroyed...

It is clear that musicians also suffered losses in the battles for the city. The musicians are exhausted physically and psychologically. Both we and the enemy are well aware of this. Subdivisions must be withdrawn to the second echelon for rest and replenishment of personnel, equipment and weapons. Hence Prigogine's statement.

But it is rather problematic to withdraw all at once and replace them with units of the Russian army. We have repeatedly seen how the Armed Forces of Ukraine push through the defense of newly arrived units and subunits on the flanks of PMCs. And how effective is the assistance to these parts of the Wagner attack aircraft.

Hence the original task for Artemovsk. The gradual replacement of units and the creation of effective defensive lines in the event of a counteroffensive by crests. By the way, it is precisely the fact that the “steel guys from the orchestra” will soon leave that Ukrainian propagandists are pressing today. At first, the musicians will allegedly leave, and then the troops will flee under the blows of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Thus, the idea of ​​developing an offensive from this direction "on the shoulders of the enemy" is utopian from the very beginning. At the same time, local offensives in certain areas are quite possible and, I think, will be carried out. For example, why not take away Konstantinovka and Druzhkovka from crests? Then we go directly to Kramatorsk and Slavyansk.

It seems to me that active actions of a serious scale on our part should not be expected in the near future. It is difficult to liberate the city, but it is even more difficult to keep it. Attacks on unprepared positions by fresh brigades are quite likely. Not even the five I mentioned above.

At the disposal of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are also fresh brigades of the defense. And this is at least five brigades. You can use them not only under Bakhmut. Probably, the area of ​​Kremennaya and Popasnaya is more promising in this respect.

If Kyiv has not abandoned the idea of ​​terrorizing Russia's border regions, and there are no such data yet, then this is an ideal place to intensify hostilities. The border is near, if you want to step there, if you want to send a DRG. Yes, and brilliant green allows you to well mask equipment and weapons.

So will there be an attack or not?


This question remains unanswered. From Kyiv, the "offensive machine" is launched. I wrote about this many times. But the competent work of the VKS artillery significantly reduced the offensive potential and logistics capabilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Today it is foolish to count on a rapid replenishment of formations participating in the offensive.

Paradox. It is impossible to stop the preparation of the offensive and it is impossible to attack. At the same time, it is impossible not to attack. The West demands victories, and if there are none, aid will be reduced to a minimum. This is such a difficult task facing Ukraine.

A global strategic offensive that would radically change the nature of the war in favor of Ukraine should not be expected. There will be operations in small areas of the LBS of a tactical nature. The situation can be changed by the rapid delivery of aircraft for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Bye Russian aviation dominates the air, any offensive will turn into a "meat grinder".

Alas, such a decision, based on current statements and events, will be made soon. I do not presume to predict how much NATO aircraft will reduce the efficiency of our aviation, and this will certainly happen in the initial period of use, but they will not have a significant impact on the overall picture. There are also rockets...

In general, today it is not worth talking about the offensive of one side or another. The forces and means that both sides have are simply not enough for a more or less long offensive. What is sufficient for defense is by no means sufficient for attack.

If the task is set to force Ukraine into peace negotiations as soon as possible, we will have to use fresh connections. And this means that at the moment, taking into account many components, those who will advance on the Left-Bank Ukraine are still on the territory of Russia. In the Belgorod, Kursk and Bryansk regions ...
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  1. +31
    25 May 2023 04: 26
    For an offensive "later" a threefold superiority in forces and means is needed. So I realized that he did not come from anywhere? Can the audience disperse?

    Such a huge whole agglomeration of fortified regions of Ukraine that it’s just fucking ...... And there are no forces and no means.

    About 2-3 years ago, they showed on TV the construction of a ditch around the borders with Russia, and then hohliv also had no strength or money for this ditch .... Ukraine at that time lived by stealing Russian gas, but "shooting" tranches from the IMF.....
    Interesting, but where did it all come from?

    Even more interesting - why can't these fortified areas be bypassed in order to cut off supply lines? You might think that the whole of Ukraine is one big fortified area and there is nowhere to step there .....
    Prigozhin did not answer this question of Girkin when he called him to the assault squads ....... Does anyone know?
    1. +35
      25 May 2023 04: 42
      if each city is taken as Bakhmut-Artyomovsk, then it will take a hundred years, or even more. Such a "rate of advance" ...
      1. +2
        25 May 2023 05: 45
        today it is not worth talking about the offensive of one side or another.
        Fso! Swarm trenches, build dugouts...
        1. +5
          25 May 2023 07: 48
          Fso! Swarm trenches, build dugouts...

          You can also build gyms. Just watched the SolovyovLIVE channel. Fighters on the front line show Solovyov a gym. So there is time to practice. If they train, then there is strength and time (time for training, time for recovery after training). The feeling of the video: "everything is calm in Baghdad." Clearly, the attack is not yet planned.
    2. +9
      25 May 2023 09: 17
      Quote: ivan2022
      Even more interesting - why can't these fortified areas be bypassed in order to cut off supply lines?

      To get around the UR, it was necessary to study at schools and academies, and not play truant. Literate people should move up the career ladder, and not who brings in the money, well, or "their own". Well, you can still find a lot of reasons for an attack on the forehead, but the main one, I repeat, is personnel, which in our case, cannot offer anything smart.
    3. +28
      25 May 2023 16: 03
      Ivan 2022, I have been asking a similar question for a long time, citing the example of France, the Maginot Line, Hitler’s tanks simply bypassed it without being drawn into hostilities, there are Stalin’s cipher messages that demand not to get involved in urban battles and bypass cities, destroy the enemy in the field. They answered me that now the war is different, and they put a minus, I think that those who would never go into the trenches, neither he nor his relatives, were minus.
      1. +12
        25 May 2023 16: 41
        Quote: Sergei Fonov
        there are cipher messages of Stalin who demand not to get involved in urban battles and bypass the cities

        This is the written truth. All this is taught throughout the training of the military. Another question is that in the army, since the times of the USSR, a negative selection of personnel has gradually been established. With a developed democracy and in the last 10 years, it has simply acquired a mass character. What I personally saw was the elimination of the most literate at the level of captain-major. Rarely did anyone advance to colonel.
        1. +2
          26 May 2023 09: 11
          Over the past years, we needed not smart, but obedient
      2. +5
        25 May 2023 22: 39
        Quote: paul3390
        And why, in such scenarios, did you start all this at all?

        Of course, I am not a member of the highest circles, but one gets the feeling that in their moods and level of thinking they do not differ much from the tax-paying population. Judging by the same VO and other patriotic forums, the same severe racism reigned before the NWO as in the USA before WWII. Then the Americans were in full confidence that the Japanese were simply by nature inferior to the whites and could not pose a serious danger. The opposite opinion was seen as unpatriotic and simply absurd. Thoughtful articles were written about the fact that the Japs, due to biological characteristics, cannot normally fly aircraft, that their slender physique forces them to use weak-powered rifles that are ineffective against powerful Americans, etc. Not to mention the evaluation of the moral and intellectual qualities of the Japanese. Reality severely taught the arrogant Yankees a lesson.

        The same attitude was towards the Ukrainians before the NWO, even though we are of the same race. Cowardly corrupt idiots, more like pigs than people - such opinions were pluses in those days, and more sober assessments were drowned in minuses. For understanding, you can go to LiveJournal to bmpd and read the comments, nothing has changed there since then. And at the top of understanding, apparently, there was no more.
        1. +1
          26 May 2023 18: 57
          So what exactly did the Americans do wrong?
          That's exactly how it all happened. The provocation dragged the Japanese into the war in the Pacific. They donated old chests at Pearl Harbor on 07.12.1941/10.12.1941/04 and framed the British on 07.06.1942/7.08.1942/09.02.1943. They turned the tide of the war during the battle for about. Midway 80-XNUMX and beyond Guadalcanal XNUMX - XNUMX And then fought in one gate. And finally, they treated mankind to high-tech from two bombs. As a result, for XNUMX years the United States has dominated the largest area of ​​the globe - the Pacific Ocean and neighboring countries. And everyone, including China and Russia, has to look at how the Americans behave.
          This war made the US the dominant power for a century. And neither the collapse of the Kuomintang in China, nor the Korean draw, nor the defeat in Vietnam shook their power.
      3. TIR
        +5
        25 May 2023 23: 14
        Bypassing the fortifications from the flanks, thereby the attackers also expose their flank. This moment was also feared by our generals during the Second World War. Then they already learned how to masterfully control the troops and put up barriers or tie down the garrison of the fortified area with head-on battles (Zeelow Heights). Now there is no strength, no intelligence, no skillful management. The same Zhukov or Rokosovsky in a modern way would have hit western Ukraine from Belarus. And they would burn everything there without sparing the house and the enemy
      4. 0
        28 May 2023 19: 38


        sergey backgrounds,
        The Maginot Line, Hitler's tanks simply bypassed it without being drawn into hostilities,


        another mom's strategist got in touch.

        You at least refresh your knowledge so as not to exhibit your stupidity. the Maginot Line, as it was conceived by its creators in the 1920s, fulfilled its main task, which was to limit the scale of attacks on positions protected by the line

        The defeat of France in 1940 was not the result of shortcomings in the central part of the line (which, despite numerous attempts by the German army, was broken through only in two places, which happened after the fall of Paris and the retreat of most of the French army), but was the result of numerous strategic miscalculations the government of the French Republic, which failed to take advantage of the advantages created by the existence of this powerful defensive line.

        Sergei Fonov
        Stalin demands not to get involved in urban battles and bypass cities, destroy the enemy in the field

        Buddy, there is no one simple way to win in nature, just as there is no one trick to defeat all the champions in boxing. After all, the enemy is not a pear that can be beaten, he studies you, changes tactics and gives back.
        In the fields, the army will be destroyed on the march.
        Secondly, the intelligence community of the West, by joint efforts, fixes all the movements of the units of the Ministry of Defense, under Stalin this was not the case, so the old methods do not work.
        bypass cities

        Under Ugledar, there was an unsuccessful operation of the Ministry of Defense, by the way, it was planned to bypass it, but the detours were destroyed.
    4. +1
      27 May 2023 14: 08
      Quote: ivan2022
      About 2-3 years ago, they showed on TV the construction of a ditch around the borders with Russia, and then hohliv also had neither the strength nor the money for this ditch ....

      Quote: ivan2022
      Interesting, but where did it all come from?

      From sponsors. They dumped more than two military budgets of Russia last year alone. In addition, they have full-fledged mobilization and enough workers for all these works.
      Quote: ivan2022
      Even more interesting - why can't these fortified areas be bypassed in order to cut off supply lines?

      To get started, just look at the map to get an idea of ​​the scale of the task. Then look at the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and estimate the applied number of garrisons of these cities and agglomerations turned into fortified areas. The next step will be the realization that no one has canceled the arithmetic for the advancing side (3 to 1), especially since surrounding the fortified area (city \ agglomeration), the blocking side will have to keep the front on both sides of the ring and there should be enough forces for this. And the logistics for the parts / formations that form the outer ring will not be easy to organize because of the road penetration. Based on everything, estimate how many forces and means you will need to implement such a strategy.
      Due to what did you manage to quickly surround Mariupol and take it by storm with forces smaller than those of the enemy?
      Surprise, pressure and massive fire suppression. In this case, all three factors played an equivalent role. At the moment, the first factor can no longer exist by definition. The second is possible only with a numerical advantage in forces and means. And with the inevitable strengthening of the role of the third factor. And for this all it is necessary to accumulate forces (l / s, equipment, logistics) and time for this accumulation, because the peacetime industry can no longer satisfy all these requests. And for NATO, this has also become a problem due to the depletion of resources and difficulties in replenishing them. Therefore, the realization comes / came to them of the impossibility for the Armed Forces of Ukraine not only to turn the tide of the war, but simply to carry out any serious offensive operation. Hence their search for opportunities for a "truce" on the Korean principle.
      Quote: ivan2022
      You might think that the whole of Ukraine is one big fortified area and there is nowhere to step there .....

      This is partly true - for them (the Armed Forces of Ukraine) the tactics of war in cities have been chosen, using them as fortified areas and hiding behind the civilian population while simultaneously screaming about the "atrocities of the invaders". And they tried to bypass all their cities without getting involved in protracted assaults, without their reliable blocking and reliable protection of their own communications, even at the very beginning of the NWO. Do you remember how it ended? The enemy in the rear of our troops did not sit on the priest evenly, but launched a mass mobilization, with the issuance of weapons and the formation of units and formations right in our rear. And then he began to cut communications and smash supply convoys.
      Why did we act so thoughtlessly?
      There are two reasons - the "genius" of Gerasimov, Shoigi and Co., as well as a categorical lack of forces to organize a reliable blockade of bypassed cities and prevent mobilization measures from being carried out in them and, in principle, hostile actions. Explaining this, all the keyboards have already been erased.
      So future offensive actions of the RF Armed Forces must be provided with a sufficient outfit of forces (everything according to military arithmetic for the advancing Army), weapons, logistics, AMMUNITION in exhaustive quantities, to ensure guaranteed fire suppression of the enemy. And since the enemy does not stand still, but is arming, preparing new formations, conducting regular mobilizations, receiving more and more new and serious weapons from sponsors ... It is necessary to provide him with a regime of constant consumption and loss of these funds in such quantities that his total forces and capabilities at least did not increase.
      In principle, this is exactly what we have been observing since the autumn of last year.
      Quote: ivan2022
      Ukraine is one big fortified area and there is nowhere to step there .....
      Prigozhin did not answer this question of Girkin when he called him to the assault squads ....... Does anyone know?

      In any, the most perfect and rich defense, there are weak points. As a rule, they are beaten in them, then developing success and entering the operational space, destroying the enemy's rear communications and resources. And this is definitely not LBS in the Donbass and in the Zaporozhye region. But you need to beat when you reach your own readiness for this, and preferably at the moment of maximum unpreparedness of the enemy. Everything else depends on the operational art of the parties.
      hi
  2. +19
    25 May 2023 04: 58
    Impression from the article: On one of the sectors of the front, leaving the settlement, after long, stubborn, prolonged battles, the enemy retreated to pre-prepared positions, suffering significant losses. On the entire front line, without change.
    1. -9
      25 May 2023 05: 04
      Well, what, a summary with analytics elements. The author understands.
      1. +12
        25 May 2023 05: 24
        Imagine such reports by Levitan: Grind, grind .. and so on for four years. smile
        1. +1
          25 May 2023 06: 14
          Quote: parusnik
          and so four years

          Well, it's been two years... hi
    2. +23
      25 May 2023 17: 15
      This author has not yet answered for Kherson. In his article, he also imposed a bunch of analytics on why we won’t surrender Kherson. He is balabol.
      1. +5
        25 May 2023 17: 56
        So from a military point of view, Kherson could defend itself for a very long time. But the factor of Abramovich and the ammonia pipeline can put anyone to flight without any attacks. Under Balakleya, it turned out to be enough to show a couple of dozen Humvees with machine guns and that's it, the army scatters even where no one interrupted the supply lines
  3. +2
    25 May 2023 05: 28
    Ivan is right. An offensive requires total superiority in manpower and equipment. Has Ukraine been demilitarized.? It is doubtful. There is no need to talk about denazification. A different word sometimes has a greater meaning than the most powerful weapon. Would pick up these words.
  4. +12
    25 May 2023 06: 06
    It was impossible to take Bakhmut in any other way than by storm.

    Is it also impossible to surround?
    1. +19
      25 May 2023 06: 14
      Is it also impossible to surround?
      "This is not our method" (c)
    2. -12
      25 May 2023 06: 55
      How do you imagine it? along the outer ring there is a huge grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is many times superior to ours, and along the inner fortified area of ​​Bakhmut. Turn on your head.
      1. +15
        25 May 2023 15: 43
        Hmm ... When our troops regrouped from Kharkov and from the right bank of the Dnieper, arguments were heard, among other things, to avoid encirclement. It turns out that our military leaders did not turn on their heads? It turns out that the environment, coverage is now basically impossible? Or - should it be clarified that they are impossible exclusively in the performance of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation?
        1. +4
          25 May 2023 22: 07
          The coverage of Bakhmut was planned, the Wagners did not have enough of their forces, but there was no support.
    3. +5
      25 May 2023 08: 17
      No. Well, you look at the map or on the road Chasov-Bakhmut.

      You took Ivanovskoye - the width of your ring of encirclement will be even 500 meters. How long can you last with this ring? There is simply nowhere to expand - Hours are at a height, from where you will be processed from everything from artillery and mortars, to tanks from a direct fire building and trucks with ZUShki. To storm the Hours - you need forces almost like on Bakhmut, although he is smaller, but at a high-rise.
      1. +16
        25 May 2023 15: 47
        And then the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Bakhmut were squeezed out of the fig, if at first glance at the map it is clear that there is nowhere to advance there? And to gnaw at such a pace every fortification into which the enemy can easily turn every settlement - centuries are needed. However, we will run out of people earlier for such mutual "grinding". Or is that the purpose? In the reduction of the "extra" population of the two once related countries?
        1. +7
          25 May 2023 17: 08
          Well, Prigogine showed on the map, the whole idea.

          Draw as much Armed Forces into Soledar-Bakhmut as possible, and at this time the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will close the appendix to the north with Belogorovka-Seversk, setting up a short front along Bakhmutka. That will allow the initiative to conduct offensive operations in other sectors of the front.

          As a result, attempts by the RF Armed Forces to squeeze through failed (well, in truth, not much, and they tried it there). Prigozhin's attempt after Soledar to quickly run to Seversk failed at Rozdolovka and Pereezdnoye - where there was a strong defense and these villages would have to be dismantled brick by brick with large forces. As a result, the musicians left their foothold at Sacco-Vazetti and switched to Bakhmut.
    4. -6
      25 May 2023 16: 09
      To take, you need a superiority of 3 to 1. And in order to surround, do you need less superiority, or not at all?
      Hospade, well, strategists, with smart cabbage soup carrying nonsense.
    5. +2
      25 May 2023 19: 41
      Is it also impossible to surround?

      In order to answer this question, you need to know a lot. Landscape, roads, bridges, presence of buildings, basements, etc. Maps and own eyes. In addition, to know what forces we have and the enemy.
      ...............
      In the presence of sufficient forces, it would certainly be more efficient to bypass this entire Donetsk agglomeration much to the north with access to the Dnieper. Allow armored vehicles, aviation, artillery to turn around, with all their pluses in terms of mobility in relative open spaces. But there are risks. Who among us likes to take risks?
  5. +45
    25 May 2023 06: 43
    When you read this, you get the strong impression that the last 100 years of the development of military affairs simply did not exist .. Neither the German offensives of 39-42, nor the operations of Bagration, Vistula-Oder, Manchurian and others and others. There is only one method - a consistent frontal assault on fortified areas .. As in WWI.

    As for our lack of forces for a large-scale offensive, a reasonable question immediately arises, how did you even plan the NWO then a year ago ??? If there are still not enough troops for her? What did our adored guarantor and our military leadership do, if our army is not able to carry out large-scale operations? And why, in such scenarios, did you start all this at all? Why did you give them EIGHT years to prepare for war?

    And most importantly - what are you going to do next? Eastern Ukraine is a highly urbanized territory, and every town has clearly been turned into a fortified area. And what - we will each take 200 days? How many people will we lose then? And how long will it take? What is the bet on? What is an ingenious strategic plan? I would like at least a general understanding, because personally I don’t see him at close range .. The desired cunning plan.
    1. +9
      25 May 2023 10: 15
      What is an ingenious strategic plan?

      Based on the facts. The ingenious plan is as follows: to invade the enemy country for a short distance, declare the occupied territory and part of the territory controlled by the enemy to be part of their country, go on the defensive and wait for the "counterattack".
      1. +5
        25 May 2023 15: 54
        Judging by the latest events in the Grayvoronsky district of the Belgorod region, the enemy is rehearsing something like: to seize some regional center for a couple of days, announce a referendum, vote on it himself, recognize it as valid and quickly dump it. Of course, we do not recognize it, but even Belarus did not recognize the referendums in the former Ukrainian regions. But Ukraine recognizes on the same day, who would doubt it.
    2. +6
      25 May 2023 16: 17
      Quote: paul3390
      What did our adored guarantor and our military leadership do, if our army is not able to carry out large-scale operations?

      Heh. They plundered the country, the people, their own army. And they still continue. The daughter of the Minister of Defense over the past 4 years has mastered 80 billion for the construction of a museum and historical complex in Kronstadt. And learn the same amount more. What questions can there be?

      Quote: paul3390
      And most importantly - what are you going to do next? Eastern Ukraine is a highly urbanized territory, and every town has clearly been turned into a fortified area. And what - we will each take 200 days? How many people will we lose then? And how long will it take? What is the bet on?

      The bet is on nuclear weapons, and ultimately on an agreement, in the hope that the West and Ukraine will run out of steam in a protracted conflict.
    3. +2
      25 May 2023 16: 32
      Quote: paul3390

      And most importantly - what are you going to do next? Eastern Ukraine is a highly urbanized territory, and every town has clearly been turned into a fortified area. And what - we will each take 200 days? How many people will we lose then? And how long will it take?
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      +20
      if each city is taken as Bakhmut-Artyomovsk, then it will take a hundred years, or even more. Such a "rate of advance" ...
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    4. +2
      25 May 2023 19: 45
      And the main question is why all this? Flatten cities? AND ?
    5. +5
      25 May 2023 19: 54
      Quote: paul3390
      how did you even plan SVO then a year ago

      They planned that there would be a flower ceremony, the enemy would scatter only from one speech by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs about the borders of NATO in 91. No one paid attention to such trifles as maintaining a database, this is not a master's business, if the serfs decide among themselves.
    6. 0
      28 May 2023 20: 23
      consecutive assault in the forehead fortified areas

      With the light hand of Strelkov, "head-on assault" became a favorite expression among mother's strategists.

      No German offensives of 39-42

      In that war there were armies of millions, and low sensitivity to losses, it was possible to lose an army of a million, and then defeat the same

      Why did you give them EIGHT years to prepare for war?

      To save the fortunes of the oligarchy stored in NATO countries.
  6. +27
    25 May 2023 06: 45
    The author lives in some kind of parallel world. Ignoring objective reality is a special gift given from above. This gift must be protected and preserved.
    In the world of the author, enemy suicide bombers, repeatedly destroyed, die again and again from the statements of our propagandists.
    In some other reality yesterday afternoon, they were interviewed by foreign journalists, but our mighty spirit seer is too holy to watch their telegram videos.

    In the reality created by the powerful energy of the author, our aviation unconditionally dominates the air, and we have not recently lost, it seems, eleven pilots in one day, please correct me if I'm wrong.

    (On the other hand, perhaps this is a particularly cynical form of presenting information, and you need to read between the lines correctly?)


    Therefore, I have great confidence in the following forecasts of the author:
    1. Artyomovsk will never be surrendered in the coming months.
    2. The Ukrainians have exhausted their offensive potential.
    1. +6
      25 May 2023 17: 18
      This balabol has not yet answered for the article about Kherson.
    2. +3
      25 May 2023 17: 43
      Just propaganda. It's time to get used to it.
  7. +17
    25 May 2023 07: 45
    Quote: paul3390
    And why, in such scenarios, did you start all this at all?
    Perhaps if the Garant had been asked this (an option, of course, purely fantastic), he would probably have answered with downcast eyes ... We thought that we would be met with flowers, that the Ukrainian army would scatter, that we had 80% of the latest weapons, that our men will immediately run to the military registration and enlistment offices (hello - Matvienko) .... We also thought about future profits and ratings .... But we did NOT think that NATO would help Ukraine on such a scale that there would be such sanctions that China it won’t help us much that money in the treasury will start to run out so quickly, that there will be a catastrophic shortage of workers and engineers at defense plants, that some of the contractors will scatter, that many generals were really parquet ....
    1. 0
      25 May 2023 23: 58
      Quote: Skorin
      Perhaps if this was asked (a purely fantastic option, of course) from the Guarantor, he would probably answer with downcast eyes ...

      And in the end, he would have cheered up and added: "But I was not mistaken in one thing - my rating, which left much to be desired, thanks to CBO, has coolly nurtured! Yes! Yes! Yessss!" laughing
    2. -1
      28 May 2023 20: 35
      at the Guarantor, he would probably answer with downcast eyes ... We thought that we would be greeted with flowers

      The guarantor lives in the royal chambers, flies on planes around the world, eats in restaurants, everything is fine with him, life is good, so he is not interested in your problems.
  8. +9
    25 May 2023 07: 57
    To summarize, not great. One of the slogans was denazification. But it seems that denazification does not work, and nazification, in the unliberated territories, only intensified and they are not going to denazify there, and Russophobia is intensifying. Demilitarization? Probably, there are some shifts , but militarization occurs at the expense of third parties. It turns out that it is necessary to demilitarize the whole of Europe.
    So will there be an attack or not?
    Dear author, you wrote not long ago, and not only you, but also another, argued that there would be an offensive. And now who are you asking? Or are you talking to yourself?
  9. +14
    25 May 2023 08: 19
    It is clear that musicians also suffered losses in the battles for the city.


    Prigogine named them. And they are 5 digits.

    In general, I strongly recommend watching his last interview, he speaks quite openly about the case.
  10. -7
    25 May 2023 08: 30
    why the battle for Bakhmut became so epic. Why did we mess around with this town for so long.

    Firstly, "they were grinding and not in a hurry."
    Secondly, how did you want to "mess around" with fortified defenses?
    In order to be fast, it was necessary to advance in a completely different place and without frontal assaults on fortified positions.
    1. +10
      25 May 2023 08: 37
      In order to be fast, it was necessary to advance in a completely different place and without frontal assaults on fortified positions.
      Apparently there are no other places. There are apparently several places for the offensive. Maryinka, Avdeevka, Artyomovsk. The rest of the places, apparently restricted areas, for both sides. smile
    2. man
      -1
      26 May 2023 02: 28
      In order to be fast, it was necessary to advance in a completely different place and without frontal assaults on fortified positions.
      Uh-huh, it was necessary to attack the toilets
    3. 0
      28 May 2023 20: 38
      it was necessary to advance in a completely different place and without frontal assaults on fortified positions

      Yes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine left the corridors specifically for the offensive.
  11. VLR
    +4
    25 May 2023 08: 37
    By the way, does anyone remember the last time we heard the phrase "destroyed by high-precision weapons" and the word "calibrated"? Run out of expensive but low-powered toys? Or - showed complete inefficiency compared to traditional artillery and multiple launch rocket systems?
    One thing is clear: real combat operations have shown that the infantry is still the "queen of the fields", and if there is not enough of it, you will not achieve victory.
    1. -2
      25 May 2023 08: 55
      every day we hear blows all over the territory
      1. +4
        25 May 2023 09: 05
        Come on! Strikes - by Soviet artillery, almost from the time of the Great Patriotic War. And the Soviet "Grads" and "Tornados". Occasionally - "Tornado" and "Pinocchio". About "Caliber" has not been heard for a long time, what is true is true.
    2. +2
      25 May 2023 09: 48
      One thing is clear: real combat operations have shown that the infantry is still the "queen of the fields", and if there is not enough of it, you will not achieve victory.


      And which repeatedly loses its effectiveness without the support of tanks, artillery and aircraft. With the war-torn industry of attack aircraft alone, by 1945 the USSR had at least 3500 in service. The Russian Federation at the beginning of the SVO had no more than 260 combat helicopters. That's air support for you.
      And in order to cover up their weakness to build up military aviation, the media has launched a trend that it is outdated and now only UAVs are allegedly needed.
      1. +2
        25 May 2023 17: 18
        At the beginning of the NWO combat helicopters, the Russian Federation had no more than 260 pieces

        What the hell?
        The Russian Federation has 1300 combat helicopters.
        1. -2
          26 May 2023 11: 49
          What the hell?
          The Russian Federation has 1300 combat helicopters.


          1300, that's all. Including both Mi-8 and Mi-26.
          1. 0
            26 May 2023 12: 53
            Why upset a person?)) Perhaps he recorded all the modifications of eights as drummers ... Can they shoot?
            1. -1
              27 May 2023 10: 26
              And in the USSR there were 7200 helicopters ... eh ...
  12. -17
    25 May 2023 09: 03
    Quote: kor1vet1974
    But it seems that denazification is not rolling, and nazification, in the unliberated territories, has only intensified and they are not going to denazify there, and Russophobia is intensifying. Demilitarization? Probably, there are some shifts, but militarization occurs at the expense of third parties. It turns out that it is necessary to demilitarize the whole of Europe.


    Rolls. Disinfection, physical destruction of carriers of the "brown plague" is taking place.
    Russophobia, strictly speaking, simply manifests itself in a more explicit form. And okay. But what is characteristic is that inveterate Russophobes are still not very eager to go to the front. Or can you provide evidence to the contrary, queues of volunteers at the Ukrainian military registration and enlistment offices?

    Yes. But, perhaps, the partial demilitarization of Europe was the initial plan. And the fact that the military-industrial complex of European countries is not particularly powerful was also shown by the operation of the Europeans in Libya.
    1. +9
      25 May 2023 09: 43
      Rolls.
      In every farm, village, city, they are greeted with flowers, and when approaching some settlement, the local anti-fascist underground raises an uprising and expels the Nazis?
      Disinfection, physical destruction of carriers of the "brown plague" is taking place.
      By carriers of the "brown plague" do you mean the entire population, young and old? That is, the Lord in heaven will figure out who is the carrier and who is not the carrier?
    2. +3
      25 May 2023 16: 03
      Disinfection, physical destruction of carriers of the "brown plague" is taking place.

      So the monument to General Krasnov, who commanded the Cossack troops in the service of the Wehrmacht, was demolished on the Don? Was the memorial plaque to Mannerheim destroyed, or are they waiting for the uncultured St. Petersburg-Leningraders to come to their senses and stop pouring red paint on it in order to hang it again?
      Or are all forces thrown at the denazification of Ukraine, so that the hands do not reach the struggle against the rehabilitation of Nazism in some other country? Or maybe it was necessary to start with this first?
  13. -4
    25 May 2023 09: 07
    Quote: parusnik
    Imagine such reports by Levitan: Grind, grind .. and so on for four years.


    What to present? And so it was. "More than .
    Berlin was taken when there were almost no peasants left in the Reich. How did the Fuhrer admonish the brats there, didn’t they see it in the newsreel?
  14. -7
    25 May 2023 09: 09
    Quote: Aerodrome
    If each city is taken as Bakhmut-Artyomovsk, then it will take a hundred years,


    To protect every city like Bakhmut, Ukraine must have no less reservists than China.
    So it's unlikely...
    1. -1
      25 May 2023 16: 08
      And in order to take every city like Bakhmut, Russia must have more reservists than China. Moreover, the border in Upper Lars should be closed, and weapons, equipment and weapons should be delivered from abroad, as now to Ukraine. But we have much less opportunities to import military products than non-brothers. So to take every city like Bakhmut, Russia has even fewer opportunities than Ukraine has to defend it.
      It was not in vain that Pyrrhus said that such victories, as he did, can be won only two. Then the army ends.
    2. 0
      25 May 2023 21: 13
      To protect every city like Bakhmut

      In order to storm every city, like Artemovsk, Russia must have its own separate Wagner for this, mobilized ones will not be suitable for this. And he is only one.
  15. +13
    25 May 2023 09: 17
    You can already see from the title that this is Staver.
  16. +23
    25 May 2023 09: 29
    I will comment, although Mr. Staver comment on this for myself ..
    The suicide bombers were assigned traitors to the Motherland, from among our former citizens, who simply have nowhere to go. From the very beginning of this adventure, it was clear that none of this DRG would be released. Which is basically what happened. At the time of writing, there were unofficial reports of the destruction of 39 and the capture of 4 saboteurs.

    Yeah. These dead are handing out interviews left and right. And we were shown 5 or 6 bodies in clean camouflage with Konoshenko's comment that these were 70 people .. Not a single name of the dead was named. Not a single prisoner is shown. NOTHING. But PR people painted the inscriptions "for Bakhmut" on top of the burnt equipment with fresh paint, yes. Clowns.
    In general, the dill raid was more than successful.
    Not only is this another shameful slap in the face of Russia, but with their daily raid, they found out that:
    1. Our intelligence is missing as a class. To skip the ukrobattalion with heavy equipment - you need to manage it.
    2. The time and the degree of response to the invasion of a serious battle group are more than deplorable.
    3. The quality of command, communications, organization and coherence of units when repelling an invasion is negative, but in general - they used to just be shot for this.
    Now they know for sure that if necessary, they can seriously hit Kursk / Belgorod / Bryansk and others. Resistance will be minimal. Therefore, the capture of our cities and the plan to exchange their territories for ours began to play with fresh colors.

    On a positive note, I can say that dill did not have a plan to nightmare the citizens of the Russian Federation. Otherwise, they could have chopped up hundreds or even thousands of corpses of civilians, who, as is usually the case with us, did not understand anything and nothing was explained to them ..
    It seems to me that active actions of a serious scale on our part should not be expected in the near future.
    Oh yeah. We've been seeing this all year.
    The West demands victories, and if there are none, aid will be reduced to a minimum.

    I don’t understand where they pick out this statement about minimizing support for Ukraine.
    Of course not. It will only grow, no matter how things go at the front. At first, they gave first-aid kits and uniforms, looking back at us all the time. Then a shooter. Then javelins, then hymars, then tanks and patriots, then storm shadow and other "long-range" missiles, by the fall they will give aircraft. I think that things will not come to nuclear weapons, but the rest will be, 100%. and in commercial quantities.
    While Russian aviation dominates the air

    The example of Bryansk and the simultaneous death of four aircraft and eleven pilots show that this statement, to put it mildly, is erroneous.
    If the task is set to force Ukraine to peace negotiations as soon as possible
    We have been tasked with this task since April 2022. But neither the West nor Ukraine needs this. We are asking for negotiations in every possible way. But we do not rule the ball.
    1. +4
      25 May 2023 12: 14
      But we do not rule the ball.
      The author, judging by his articles, has a different opinion. "We press, bend, the Swedes" (c) laughing
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    3. 0
      28 May 2023 20: 42
      And we were shown 5 or 6 bodies in clean camouflage with Konoshenko's comment that these were 70 people .. Not a single name of the dead was named.

      Do you need to show 70 bodies with last names to convince? The thing is, no one wants to convince you.
  17. +7
    25 May 2023 13: 06
    Bakhmut took 20 thousand Wagner soldiers only killed, 50 thousand wounded, if every such city in Ukraine is liberated with such losses, then the entire general mobilization will have to be announced, the losses will be catastrophic. We need to change the whole approach to SVO. liquidate the military and political leadership of Ukraine.
    1. -10
      25 May 2023 18: 18
      Where did such a figure of losses of 20000 killed and 50000 wounded come from, there were only 50-60 thousand in PMCs. Here it is dill propaganda.
      1. +7
        25 May 2023 18: 32
        About 20 thousand killed from PMCs, Prigozhin himself said in a long interview.
      2. +2
        25 May 2023 19: 30
        odisey3000
        Where did such a figure of losses of 20000 killed and 50000 wounded come from, there were only 50-60 thousand in PMCs

        https://vk.com/video-177427428_456239228?t=34m46s момент 34:46
      3. +4
        25 May 2023 19: 44
        Prigogine listen before you write something. You're too lazy to do something
  18. -13
    25 May 2023 13: 26
    Quote: Mishka78
    Yeah. These dead are handing out interviews left and right.


    Do you know them personally? How do you know that interviews are given by those who participated in this action? Believe in the word of these vukam?

    Quote: Mishka78
    The example of Bryansk and the simultaneous death of four aircraft and eleven pilots show that this statement, to put it mildly, is erroneous.


    Dominance in the air does not at all exclude the loss of aviation equipment and flight personnel. The common place is that the Luftwaffe dominated the Eastern Front until 1943, but the Germans had considerable losses.
    Still, it's not worth the hassle.
  19. -9
    25 May 2023 13: 33
    Quote: kor1vet1974
    In every farm, village, city, they are greeted with flowers, and when approaching some settlement, the local anti-fascist underground raises an uprising and expels the Nazis?


    The reverse is also not observed.

    Quote: kor1vet1974
    By carriers of the "brown plague" do you mean the entire population, young and old?


    The facts of the total destruction of the local population by Russian troops - in the studio!
    Or do you think there are all Banderlog Nazis from birth? Maybe British scientists have identified the "banderism gene" in the local population?
  20. -11
    25 May 2023 13: 37
    Quote: Shamil88
    Bakhmut took 20 thousand Wagner soldiers only killed, 50 thousand wounded, if every such city in Ukraine was liberated with such losses,


    And how much did Bakhmut take from Ukraine? Given the fact that the population there is still much less.
  21. +8
    25 May 2023 14: 23
    It was impossible to take Bakhmut in any other way than by storm.


    Can you clarify where this info comes from? feel

    in the Second World War, Koenigsberg was taken in 81 hours - if my memory serves me - and there was a defense not like Bakhmutskaya belay
    1. +5
      25 May 2023 14: 31
      Quote: Corona without virus
      in the Second World War, Koenigsberg was taken in 81 hours - if my memory serves me - and there was a defense not like Bakhmutskaya

      it’s just that then there was the Red Army, and not PMCs!
  22. +16
    25 May 2023 14: 52
    Why does the author of his article ignore the rules of the site, calling Ukrainians by their nickname with the letter X repeatedly? And the editors indulge him in this. Why have readers learned to avoid using forbidden words in comments, but this does not concern the author?
    1. +11
      25 May 2023 18: 59
      Quote: Galleon
      Why does the author of his article ignore the rules of the site, calling Ukrainians by their nickname with the letter X repeatedly? And the editors indulge him in this. Why have readers learned to avoid using forbidden words in comments, but this does not concern the author?

      This is Russia, it has always been like this here - "What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull." Staver - Jupiter, he is allowed, but we ...
      Vaughn Prigozhin in his last interview on several articles of the Criminal Code said, and he will not get anything for it - he is Jupiter, he is allowed.
      And a week ago, a 51-year-old Muscovite named Alexei was stopped by the police for quoting Prigozhin "Where are the shells?" on the back window of his car. And on May 23, Aleksey received an administrative fine of 30 thousand for discrediting the RF Armed Forces - he is a bull, he is not allowed.
    2. 0
      25 May 2023 23: 00
      Why does the author of his article ignore the rules of the site, calling Ukrainians by their nickname with the letter X repeatedly?

      cosplay of Tatarsky. In general, it is not clear: just now I was listening to Radio Russia. there one presenter constantly pronounces this word with the letter "x" and no one buzzes.
  23. +15
    25 May 2023 14: 54
    Lord! What idiots is this written for?"... it was clear that none of this DRG would be released. Which, in principle, happened. At the time of writing, there were unofficial reports about the destruction of 39 and the capture of 4 saboteurs. have already appeared in the media, the prisoners have not been shown so far, instead of 70 and the killed photographs of five corpses. "It was impossible to take Bakhmut in any other way than by storm." Yes, you sho! "Bakhmut is the key to a fairly powerful fortified area," then, logically, the entire fortified area should fall apart? However, the opposite is true. In short.
  24. -1
    25 May 2023 15: 24
    The battle for Bakhmut became such because it was so presented in the media. You can rename it to any name, but it's better to forget - in fact there is no city. The offensive will be either when the zaluzhny recovers or if someone in Ukraine does not recover, he will have to take responsibility. Otherwise, they will not be given weapons. What should the Russian Federation do - in fact, wait for the decomposition of the military formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there is no point in working in this, storming - many people will die.
    1. 0
      25 May 2023 18: 36
      Yes, today's video with Zaluzhny is already walking in Telegram. Looks healthy.
  25. +6
    25 May 2023 15: 26
    1942, the Battle of Stalingrad has just ended and the newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda comes out with the headline "Everyone needs a respite. We will attack later" and a text similar in idiocy.)) I can’t imagine, no matter how hard you try. And in our time, this is a reality. We've arrived...
    1. +10
      25 May 2023 15: 52
      Quote from mixail sherbakov
      And in our time, this is a reality. We arrived ...

      So we don't have a war. Strange military operation. We fight there, we trade here, we transit here in all sorts of ways .. This people is dying in the war. But it's okay, and the women still give birth and out, Central Asia is happy to replace the indigenous population.
      The main thing is that the money grows in normal boys!

      The wealth of the richest Russians has increased by more than $10 billion since the beginning of the year

      https://www.rbc.ru/business/01/03/2023/63ff04e69a79474cdac61163?from=newsfeed
      1. +6
        25 May 2023 18: 03
        If I was fond of conspiracy theories, I could well assume that the Ukrainian and Russian "real boys" got over it and decided to stir up this entire SVO, just to milk Western sponsors. The lion's share, of course, is received by Ukrainians (of course, kickbacks are paid to those who make decisions to allocate billions to proud heroic Ukraine - where can we go without them? The real boys there also want to eat), but Russian counterparties also receive considerable deductions, I don’t know - Who exactly. Their task is to ensure that the NWO does not end as long as possible, while maintaining the degree of confrontation, not lower than a certain one. In the case of dangerous discussions in the West about the need for savings, the degree immediately rises. Of course, sponsors should have the feeling that just a little bit more, another hundred, or even a dozen transferred tanks, and victory! But this is unlikely - the last thing sponsored wants to stop the golden rain, so that the victories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be strictly dosed and stretched out in time. Well, the fact that tens of thousands are killed and maimed on both sides ... For the individuals mentioned, these are more than acceptable collateral losses.
        1. +2
          25 May 2023 19: 02
          A quite suitable version.) Much does not fit into.)
        2. 0
          28 May 2023 20: 56
          just to milk Western sponsors. The lion's share, of course, is received by Ukrainians
          The lion's share of the money allocated by Congress goes to American military corporations.

          Their task is to keep the SVO from ending as long as possible.

          The supply of weapons during the Second World War created the economic boom in the United States. Some guys share your primitive thinking, here corporations are divided, for their own benefit and global goals, by the way, Russian figures are not considered boys, since they voluntarily export resources for zeros in a computer. The oligarchy of accounts for a trillion, they definitely don’t need a SVO, but they are not asked to grow an elite for the West at the level of the Papuans.
    2. +2
      25 May 2023 15: 54
      Quote from mixail sherbakov
      1942, the Battle of Stalingrad has just ended and the newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda comes out with the headline "Everyone needs a respite. We will attack later" and a text similar in idiocy.)) I can’t imagine, no matter how hard you try. And in our time, this is a reality. We've arrived...

      You do not compare "God's Gift with scrambled eggs"!!! ry)))
      In the cauldron near Stalingrad, a whole field marshal with his entire army surrendered as a prisoner good drinks From hopelessness...))) And Bakhmut was simply razed to the ground by the price that Prigogine voiced in his last interview... crying
  26. +13
    25 May 2023 15: 54
    For some reason, the author wrote only about the losses of Ukrainians, which is very typical for jingoistic patriots. Apparently so as not to embarrass their vulnerable souls. Although Prigozhin was not afraid to name these losses in his interview.
    And in general, the whole article, unfortunately, is general reasoning. What is there in the rest of the Donbass is generally incomprehensible.
  27. +7
    25 May 2023 17: 14
    How was it not released? Where are the tanks then? Where are the corpses (except for that pile)?
  28. -4
    25 May 2023 18: 51
    The media is widely speculating about the possible direction of the counteroffensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - ON Mariupol, Artemovsk or to the north. Ukry, by the way, do not deny this ...
    Hell no! IEDs quite adequately assess themselves, the plan is different!
    Capture the ZNPP (they definitely have enough strength for this) and start such nuclear blackmail that it won’t seem enough!
  29. 0
    25 May 2023 19: 42
    20 thousand died from Wagner. The question is why then they didn’t bomb, but stormed. Huge losses
    1. -2
      25 May 2023 20: 14
      Not quite about Artyomovsk. To use air attack aircraft, helicopters, mortars and hailstones in Avdeevka and Marinka is farting in a bucket. The builder of the fortifications told me - there are up to 5 floors of poured concrete. Only "Tulips" and FAB 1500. And the rest is more appropriate to the south.
  30. +1
    25 May 2023 20: 42
    We'll be coming later...

    What will improve later? It's better now, concentrating a lot of forces in narrow areas and pushing through the enemy's defenses. Start from Kharkov direction, north. From there move south.
  31. +1
    25 May 2023 20: 55
    From the very beginning of this adventure, it was clear that none of this DRG would be released.

    So what is DRG? DRG can be numbering 3-5-20 people. But not a reinforced company or almost a battalion with tanks, artillery and armored cars.
  32. -8
    25 May 2023 21: 32
    I think that PMC Wagner will be waiting for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the breakthrough zone.
    Summer is coming, and in a month it will be hard to advance
    +30 and you no longer look like military clothes
    It will be hellishly hot in tanks if there are no air conditioners
    In the spring, as they say, they blew with the onset, now only at the beginning of August and autumn.
    June and July will be hot. But August is already getting colder by the numbers 20.
    Imagine stepping into the heat in a helmet and body armor. It's not really simple
    And if they come when the sun is out, but then it usually rains.
    In the heat, you lose a little blood and you immediately faint
    Yes, the Russian troops will be given a rest, and the production of daggers will continue to go on.
    Someone writes daggers make 2 pieces a month, someone writes that 10,. Well, I think daggers should at least be a priority as a highly effective weapon
    All warehouses will be in Poland and most likely they will arrange the delivery of ammunition and shells by trucks. Again the question of the destruction of bridges
    By destroying the bridges, this entire group could be slammed
    Tactical nuclear weapons can already be used on large warehouses. Still there is uranium ammunition
    1. +2
      25 May 2023 22: 43
      Summer is coming, and in a month it will be hard to advance
      +30 and you no longer look like military clothes

      fell under the table laughing laughing tongue
      further NI asilil))) You served in the Army ?! belay
    2. 0
      26 May 2023 05: 56
      I declare to you with full responsibility
      Daggers produce 0 pcs per month
    3. +4
      26 May 2023 09: 09
      Quote from Alexwar
      Summer is coming, and in a month it will be hard to advance. +30 and you no longer look like military clothes

      It gets hot in summer. Agree.
      In autumn and spring it is damp to advance. It's cold to come in winter. Do you agree?
      Quote from Alexwar
      production of daggers

      Quote from Alexwar
      will improve

      Quote from Alexwar
      tactical nuclear weapons

      The holidays have begun, go play DotA, you are our strategist.
  33. +2
    25 May 2023 23: 04
    Quote: sergey backgrounds
    Ivan 2022, I have been asking a similar question for a long time, citing the example of France, the Maginot Line, Hitler’s tanks simply bypassed it without being drawn into hostilities, there are Stalin’s cipher messages that demand not to get involved in urban battles and bypass cities, destroy the enemy in the field. They answered me that now the war is different, and they put a minus, I think that those who would never go into the trenches, neither he nor his relatives, were minus.

    The command staff, who were taught how to conduct an offensive in a large-scale war, was expelled from the army long ago. And those who are, have been taught for 20 years to fight exclusively against the notorious "international terrorism."
    And they have no idea how to organize a front-line offensive operation bypassing fortified areas, with access to the operational space of CONNECTIONS and ASSOCIATIONS. They just weren't taught it. The notorious battalion tactical group is declared the pinnacle of military art. Which should ride up to defeat everyone and ride off to win in another place. Operations at the division or corps level - no, we don't know.
    It is no coincidence that the operation has already been going on for more than a year, and at the forefront there is still a vinaigrette from units that do not have a single command. Although the situation urgently requires the formation of regiments and divisions right on the front line, bringing them together in the army. And not like a battalion from one district, next to a battalion from another district, and each upper command jealously observes such subordination, God forbid someone encroaches on this battalion.
  34. -1
    25 May 2023 23: 11
    Dieser Krieg könnte schon binnen 3 Tagen zu Gunsten Russlands
    entschieden und beendet sein!

    Warum nicht das gesamte HInterland behind den aufgestellten Linien
    der ukrainischen "Offensiv-Kräfte" mit zwei, drei sehr harten Schlägen
    taktischer Atomwaffen vollkommen abschneiden und den verbleibenden
    Rest dieser NAZ-Ratten samt ihrer US/Polnischen-Söldner-Freunde in
    einem einzigen großangelegten Angriff ein fur alle mal ausradieren...?!?

    Erstens wären das insgesamt gesehen weit weniger, vor allem weniger russische Opfer, als ein fortdauernder, langanhaltender Stellungskrieg mit eher ungewissem Ausgang und zweitens wären
    die anderen, höchst leichtfertigen FEIND-STAATEN gewarnt, dass
    die Geduld des russischen Bären jetzt endgültig erschöpft ist...!!

    Ps.
    Vielleicht haben wir ja Gluck und Frau Nuland ist gerade zufällig zu
    Besuch in Kiev...!!!!!!!!!!???

    Oder hat die ATOMMACHT Russland ihr riesiges Arsenal nur zu
    "Dekorations-Zwecken"; when wenn nicht JETZT, oder wartet
    man in Moscow wirklich allen Ernstes auch noch auf US-
    amerikanische F-16 Jäger...?!?
    1. 0
      26 May 2023 09: 17
      Quote: 1erWahrheitsMinister_1984
      punches
      taktischer Atomwaffen

      Der Einsatz taktischer Atomwaffen ist äußerst gefährlich. Denn es führt zu einer unkontrollierten Anwendung durch alle Beteiligten. Und Russland wird nach dem Einsatz solcher Waffen absolut sicher zu einem ausgestoßenen Land.
  35. +2
    26 May 2023 00: 07
    The cunning plan to grind the APU cost us 1:2.5, some very cunning plan. The smart one will not go uphill, the smart one will bypass the mountain.
    1. -4
      26 May 2023 12: 10
      2,5 ukra is a good option .....................
  36. +2
    26 May 2023 02: 41
    Quote: ivan2022

    Prigozhin did not answer this question of Girkin when he called him to the assault squads ....... Does anyone know?

    Putin said last year that we have no goal of occupying Ukraine and changing its leadership. What attack? Why did we withdraw troops from Ukraine, and left them only on our territory? On the other hand, the United States does not need a Ukrainian offensive either. They need a big headache for Russia for many, many years. Everything is going according to the US plan.
    1. 0
      26 May 2023 02: 44
      The 57th parallel has already been built by Russian hands (dragon teeth all over the south).
      1. -2
        26 May 2023 18: 41
        The teeth of the dragon in nature are covered by the lips of the dragon. And how are we?
  37. +4
    26 May 2023 09: 50
    This is Donbass 2.0. There, too, after the hot months, years came, you don’t understand what. Only this time the scale is higher and the events resonate with the country much more strongly.
  38. -2
    26 May 2023 18: 39
    As long as Russian aviation dominates the air, any offensive will turn into a meat grinder.

    And vice versa - as long as Russian aviation dominates - Russian troops can advance. Why don't they come? At least for the purpose of tactical success. But, only not in the forehead! Are you weak in the knees?
  39. -1
    27 May 2023 19: 26
    Everyone needs a break. We will come later

    The author would have to write "... as late as possible" to be sure of the forecast
  40. +3
    28 May 2023 11: 48
    The guys who are sitting here on the forums perfectly understand everything. There is no rotation there and never will be. Why? Stupidly there are no people there, that is, not enough. Consequently, the people there are very tired and especially do not want to fight. I know all my knowledge about this from the guys who serve there - the 108th regiment, these are the guys mobilized, these are the guys volunteers, etc. And if this is not done, the offensive potential will dry up, it has already dried up, and we will soon see the defensive potential, I think morally many are already indifferent to everything. And no one wants to join their ranks personally, and you all understand this. Nobody wants to be in a trench, it’s easier to sit at home in front of a monitor and TV and watch this bacchanalia

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