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Under Moscow, experiencing a new form for Russian soldiers

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What will the soldiers of the future look like? In the suburbs passed field tests of advanced equipment. Perform combat tasks help laptops. If the tests are passed successfully, the ammunition will go to the troops.

Putting it all on in 45 seconds will fail. The new outfit has so many parts and accessories that it’s not immediately possible to get used to such a wardrobe.
One could say about this form: fashion, but the definition is more appropriate: state-of-the-art technology. This outfit is much more than just a bulletproof vest or pants of a protective color. The fighter in it is a universal soldier, similar to a cyborg - with antennas in epaulettes, a video eye, monitors, screens and a processor, which, if it does not yet lead the soldier, it certainly tells you where to go and when to shoot.

The kit covers up to 90% of the body surface, all vulnerable spots. In the maximum configuration, the entire set weighs 28 kilograms.

In this case, the developers assure: it is light and breathable design. It can not just be worn without removing two days, but also perform combat missions with comfort. Armored protection allows in some cases not to be afraid of even sniper fire.

The basis of equipment - aramid overalls from a unique fiber. It protects against fire and shrapnel grenades.

The outfitting of the soldier of the future "Warrior" is a fully Russian development. It is already 3 of the month being tested at special landfills. The average soldier, the socialists believe, in this form of clothing, becomes stronger and more secure.

If the test site passes successfully, soon the ammunition will go into service. This does not mean that every recruit will immediately look like a universal soldier. But the new look of the armed forces, about which there is so much talk, will also become modern.
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  1. Ppsh
    Ppsh 6 December 2012 10: 14
    -2
    For every action, a reaction is born. If a soldier is crammed with radio electronics and emits EM waves on the air, then the detection MX system coupled with the mortar or AGS will be delivered.
    And then do not care that the soldier had JPS .....
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 6 December 2012 10: 22
      +3
      Gosh ....))) What are EM waves? All that he radiates is from the radio.
    2. Igor
      Igor 6 December 2012 10: 27
      +4
      Quote: PPSh

      For every action, a reaction is born. If a soldier is crammed with radio electronics and emits EM waves on the air, then the detection MX system coupled with the mortar or AGS will be delivered.
      And then do not care that the soldier had JPS .....


      I think it's easier to shoot with a UAV, and in 96, one "politician" loved to play around with the phone and add laughing
      1. tun1313
        tun1313 6 December 2012 10: 42
        +1
        Right, whistles, flags and drums. And so that the staff property does not radiate different units in different forms, yes brighter, and the hill is better for betting, which is more visible, the binoculars glare, the machine when shooting at the IR like a torch, clubs and sabers is strength. In addition to jokes in 30 to 40 years, the most advanced (richest) army (whoever there will be amers or Chinese comrades) has people only in those. service staff and management will be. And of course, on the most important red button.
    3. Igorboss16
      Igorboss16 6 December 2012 13: 14
      0
      even today all the news has been repeated for the umpteenth time, about the form it was, about the Indian tender, about 30 they already heard that aside from this nothing happens
    4. in reserve
      in reserve 6 December 2012 17: 08
      0

      Ppsh
      For every action, a reaction is born. If a soldier is crammed with radio electronics and emits EM waves on the air, then the detection MX system coupled with the mortar or AGS will be delivered.
      And then do not care that the soldier had JPS .....


      Well, you’re directly a generator of ideas, now the enemies will read your idea and invent a damaging thread, you had to write in SKOLKOVO and not look at Military Review, and maybe you allocated a grant for the development of KNOW-HOW. wink
    5. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 7 December 2012 02: 44
      0
      Quote: PPSh
      For every action, a reaction is born. If a soldier is crammed with radio electronics and emits EM waves on the air, then the detection MX system coupled with the mortar or AGS will be delivered. And then do not care that the soldier had JPS ....

      That is, it will be necessary to build a whole system against one fighter? special equipment, etc. As regards anti-personnel actions, thermal imaging cameras and visual means for detecting infantry are now associated with both anti-personnel and machine guns. Exhaust to nowhere, replayed in games. In any case, in a modern outfit, a soldier is many times more likely to survive and complete a combat mission.
      The news is great, although not news. This can be said to be a response to a recent article "about licked off the Americans" uniforms.
  2. Edya
    Edya 6 December 2012 10: 21
    +3
    Yes, I completely agree with you ... But at the moment this uniform is pretty good and nothing bad I don’t see our soldiers dressed like that ....
  3. soldat1945
    soldat1945 6 December 2012 10: 22
    +3
    Such clips have already come out of the first form from the first channel, the result turned out to be different, let's see what happens as a result, otherwise the soldier is already lying in the snow and tells how comfortable I have already seen him, but as a result of pneumonia in the Siberian units!
    1. ozs
      ozs 6 December 2012 12: 34
      0
      If you look at the first channel and the surrounding reality. You will be shocked at how far the propaganda of false and corrupt power has gone.
    2. Jin
      Jin 6 December 2012 13: 22
      0
      Quote: soldat1945
      let's see what will come out as a result now


      Согласен, новость конечно хорошая, но и только! Молодцы, что испытывают! А, что мешает параллельно поставлять в войска хотя бы новейшие броники и каски в реально достаточных количествах??? Будущее это конечно правильно, а куда нынешнему солдату-то податься? Если принятое на вооружение не поставляется в нужных объёмах, представляю какой тернистый путь ждёт "Ратника". пока начнут выпускать, опять устареет))) Мы всё в облаках витаем, от земли оторвавшись... Так и нос расквасить можно, упав. По этому за статью не голосовал, не знаю что и ставить what
  4. Su24
    Su24 6 December 2012 10: 22
    -1
    28 kg, to the weight of knightly armor is already close. Only the cyber horse is missing, otherwise you won’t be able to jump without it)
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 6 December 2012 12: 48
      0
      And also a thinking machine, with a friend or foe identification system. The irony bursts with me, looking at how they try to make amends for a jamb with a shape from Yudashkin. That's what they even advertise, huh? Is that for all the soldiers? Oh well...
  5. Wedmak
    Wedmak 6 December 2012 10: 23
    +1
    Whoa .... Experiencing all the same "Warrior". And then - American, American ...
  6. Manager
    Manager 6 December 2012 10: 30
    0
    I won’t even say anything. 5 people to dress is not an army to dress. Until everyone approves 10 times, everything will change.
    But let's hope that it’s not very strong.
    And of course it’s nice that at least they are developing, they are showing on TV.
  7. Gurza
    Gurza 6 December 2012 10: 32
    0
    Hm very interested in the trunk on 3: 05.
    More of this form in the army!
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 6 December 2012 22: 16
      +1
      Quote: GurZa
      Hm very interested in the trunk on 3: 05.

      AEK-971 assault rifle with collimator sight
      1. Gurza
        Gurza 7 December 2012 01: 41
        0
        hmm, not recognized, thanks for the info. Although I read about it for a very long time, I consider it one of the best.
  8. AlexR
    AlexR 6 December 2012 10: 34
    -4
    I recall immediately the recent stool uniform from Yudashkin. In words, everything was openwork, but in fact, whole companies froze and, in general, slag turned out.

    And then, damn it, we put on a portable electronics !!!

    I’m afraid that in the battle (before the battle) the soldiers will simply throw out a kilogram of 15-20, which would not hurt. As a result, there will only be an automatic machine, a bronik, and perhaps a walkie-talkie, if ours can make a normal portable digital station.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 6 December 2012 10: 38
      0
      There was already information that the form from Yudashkin was "shamanized" by shitty iksperdy from the Moscow Region, and only then was it put into production. At least, before you grind with your tongue, check the information for accuracy.
      1. AlexR
        AlexR 6 December 2012 10: 56
        -3
        Valentin Abramych, log in.

        I know that. But we are talking about something else, yes, apparently, you are not catching up ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 6 December 2012 10: 58
          0
          Quote: AlexR
          Valentin Abramych, log in.

          Did you write this to Vedmaku? Then minus, if not then correct for plus hi
        2. Wedmak
          Wedmak 6 December 2012 11: 06
          0
          And what then are you talking about?
          1. AlexR
            AlexR 6 December 2012 11: 10
            -2
            So everything is written, read.
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 6 December 2012 11: 13
              +1
              Oh ... Troll! Let's debate, huh? Well, taking it ... smile At least once in your life, give a reasoned thought, or else your stupid stuffing is already quite tired.
              1. AlexR
                AlexR 6 December 2012 11: 22
                -1
                I just wrote for the first time here today.
                Why debate. Sewed a form recently. Several soldiers, if I’m not mistaken, even died from colds, hundreds fell ill. Satisfied with this form among the warriors, it was especially not. Well, except for those who have gained enough on this.
                The shape was of poor quality: the material quickly wore out, lost its shape, the seams diverged.
                Karoche, they sewed feet.

                And what does the troll have to do with it, if I wrote what was and what may be.
                1. Wedmak
                  Wedmak 6 December 2012 11: 27
                  0
                  Why debate. Sewed a form recently. Several soldiers, if I’m not mistaken, even died from colds, hundreds fell ill. Satisfied with this form among the warriors, it was especially not. Well, except for those who have gained enough on this.
                  The shape was of poor quality: the material quickly wore out, lost its shape, the seams diverged.
                  Karoche, they sewed feet.

                  To this I have already reasonably answered. Nevertheless, you accused me of misunderstanding and said that it was another matter. About what? - Everything is written ... Let's go to the second round?
                  1. AlexR
                    AlexR 6 December 2012 11: 50
                    +1
                    Yes yopt, it's about the fact that all the enthusiasm for the new form is much ahead of time. Sewed one recently. It turned out crookedly and askew. Blame MO and its corrupt employees.

                    And they are going to put in a bunch of fashionable electronic lotions in Warrior. If it’s difficult to simply sew a jacket and pants, what can we say about integration into the form of navigators, walkie-talkies, displays, etc.

                    So do you really, after a recent scandal, have no doubts about the quality of this whole technological ash-tree?

                    If not, then excuse me. As the saying goes, only the grave will correct someone ...
                    1. Wedmak
                      Wedmak 6 December 2012 12: 01
                      0
                      And who is enthusiastic here? Pass the test. A lot of things can change, add, get out.
                      If it’s difficult to simply sew a jacket and pants, what can we say about integration into the form of navigators, walkie-talkies, displays, etc.

                      Sewing is not difficult and electronics is also not difficult to make, but as you yourself said, you should not allow playful little hands to the sample. Then everything will be all right.
                      1. ozs
                        ozs 6 December 2012 12: 41
                        -1
                        But what can be prevented if it is allowed to steal with impunity.
                        Even the one who should be responsible for all this was simply fired. Meanwhile, in five years, he has done so many things there that it would be enough for a little desire to punish this greasy face for treason and undermining the country's defense.

                        And here you are sitting on the site and licking a couple of dryers built in a year, another new form, a couple of dozen tanks, etc.
                      2. Wedmak
                        Wedmak 6 December 2012 12: 47
                        0
                        Are you doing something specifically to punish fat faces?
                      3. ozs
                        ozs 6 December 2012 13: 00
                        -1
                        Lack of resources limits opportunities.

                        In modern conditions, most of us can only be outside observers.
                        Those who really have the resources and should be responsible for the country's order and defense are engaged in theft.
                        Therefore, it makes no sense to please the construction of a couple of dryers a year, since during this time the same number of aircraft will fall, if not more.
                        If the goal were really to strengthen defense, then everything would be done completely differently. This is understandable even to an amateur. Meanwhile, piece copies are coming to our troops, but for that the soldiers are changed into a new uniform every five years. Right on this, you can earn some money.
                        And so you can mock for a very long time.

                        In what country is it, an official in whose department tens of billions are stolen is simply fired from work. And the department is not simple, but the Moscow Region.
                        So dream, believe and wait.
                      4. Wedmak
                        Wedmak 6 December 2012 13: 08
                        +1
                        I agree about theft. I would love to shoot this reptile more than once ... But this is not the only thing. During the reign of the Gorbachev-Yeltsin gang, much more was stolen and sold. The military-industrial complex suffered huge losses, and not only financially, but also in an intellectual sense. They torn the research institutes, broke the supply chain of components, etc. Putting it all together, developing new equipment (even if it was still a Soviet backlog) is worth an incredible effort. Thank God, it seems that they dealt with this, the technique went, the development went. It remains only to pour money there. And here yes ... our most important misfortune comes to the fore.
                        But dreaming is not harmful, as they say. And believe and wait.
                      5. ozs
                        ozs 6 December 2012 13: 23
                        -1
                        Two aircraft can not be considered that the technology has gone.
                        You are absolutely right. Yes, all this must be restored.
                        But together they are selling a design institute that is responsible for the construction of spaceports and berths. Invest in French shipbuilding, buy Italian armored vehicles. And it seems to me that only a drop in the ocean is what is available to the public.
                        All this is happening at the present time, and not during the reign of the Gorbachev-Yeltsin gang.

                        And you still see hope for the restoration of the country's defense.
                      6. Wedmak
                        Wedmak 6 December 2012 13: 36
                        +2
                        Two aircraft can not be considered that the technology has gone.

                        How are these two airplanes? Two are only Su-30СМ (in their latest aircraft!), And Su-34 (new!)? A Su-27 of various modifications? And the Yak-130 (also new after all!)? What about helicopters? And the creation of Almaty, Kurganets, Boomerang? What about new ships? Submarines? Few? After 20 years of stagnation, movement began in almost all directions! It is clear that not as fast as we would like, but still. I’m not talking about such trifles as machine guns (finally, the Izhevsk people began to stir!), Air defense systems, anti-tank systems .... They are testing equipment for the troops. Tell me, in what other country of the world is such a large-scale rearmament and construction new designs?
                      7. ozs
                        ozs 6 December 2012 13: 50
                        -2
                        Tell me, in what other country of the world is such a large-scale rearmament and design of new models?

                        Our nearest neighbor is China.
                        Two are only the Su-30SM (in their latest aircraft!), And the Su-34 (new!)? And the Su-27 of various modifications?

                        In unit volumes, this is not serious.

                        And the creation of Almaty, Kurganets, Boomerang? What about new ships? Submarines?

                        While these are loud words. And the reality of the main boat from the project "Ash" can not be armed for almost 20 years.
                      8. Wedmak
                        Wedmak 6 December 2012 13: 57
                        +1
                        Our nearest neighbor is China.

                        China???? And you take an interest, theirs patterns - all the copying of either Soviet, or American, or something else. Until now, they cannot develop an engine for a fighter, at least somehow competitive with our AL-31.
                        In unit volumes, this is not serious.

                        Already not in pieces, for ten has exceeded.
                        And the reality of the main boat from the project "Ash" can not be armed for almost 20 years.

                        Ash is not lucky to be born (in iron) at a time when jeans were more expensive than defenses.
                      9. ozs
                        ozs 7 December 2012 01: 48
                        0
                        Ash is not lucky to be born (in iron) at a time when jeans were more expensive than defenses.

                        Laid down in 1993. What prevented it from being built since the early 2000s? Well yes, lack of funding. That's right, all the money went to expensive French toys, dressing up soldiers several times in a decade, and to the luxurious life of the Feldmebel Amazons and his predecessors.
  9. ATY
    ATY 6 December 2012 10: 36
    0
    Good news. This form is just for pros special forces and other professional units. And the fact that they are going to make a model on the model of amers is a field form for everyone.
  10. AK-47
    AK-47 6 December 2012 10: 56
    +1
    Putting it all on in 45 seconds will fail. The new outfit has so many parts and accessories that it’s not immediately possible to get used to such a wardrobe.

    In the maximum configuration, the entire set weighs 28 kilograms.

    It can not only be worn without taking off for two days, but also perform combat missions with comfort.

    You won’t envy a fighter, it would be useful.
    1. Jin
      Jin 6 December 2012 13: 44
      0
      Quote: AK-47
      You won’t envy a fighter, it would be useful.


      On amers, think less hung? Moreover, the load is constantly growing and will continue to grow! Not for nothing are they seriously engaged in exoskeletons! This is us since the Great Patriotic War, except for a backpack, a paddle, a flask and a gas mask, we do not wear anything, but, sorry! We wear of course! Heavy armored vehicles, for example! 45 seconds ... "Senya, a song about hares, it's not relevant!" Previously, a soldier, from the moment the enemy aircraft was detected, to their approach to the bombing target, at the then speeds, was approximately the same time. In short, there was a time safe and sound, with weapons and ammunition, to leave the home barracks ... Now the speed of "vesting" is no less important, but not 45 seconds! It’s up there, the blockheads have to do it, that times have changed long ago, as well as the concept of wars !!!
  11. AlexR
    AlexR 6 December 2012 11: 01
    0
    Alexander Romanov
    Did you write this to Vedmaku? Then minus, if not then correct for plus
    ,

    The Witcher, of course.
  12. vadimN
    vadimN 6 December 2012 11: 16
    0
    And how does this news fit with the one that was recently voiced on this site, namely, the development of a new field form based on copying the American ???
    1. Joker
      Joker 6 December 2012 13: 01
      0
      That vole was, and then equipment warrior hi
  13. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 6 December 2012 11: 20
    -1
    Good ammunition, dear thing, so giving it out for just a year of urgent service is a waste. And this means only one thing, it is necessary to build a professional army. Only in this case will there be an effective use of the entire complex of modern military equipment.
  14. terp 50
    terp 50 6 December 2012 11: 23
    +1
    ... at -5С it could be, it could be .. and, in our country, it went down to -57С in the Transbaikalia. And where, then will the whole ,, platmass ,, be?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 6 December 2012 11: 29
      +1
      You have already ordered the development of a special Arctic form. So that at -60 to 6 hours you can lie in the snow. smile
    2. pogis
      pogis 6 December 2012 16: 59
      0
      We have in the Urals -30, -40. I already have 2 winters 1 and 2 layer + pea coat, I’m not overjoyed! I decided to buy a 3 layer instead of a pea coat (it is heavy).
  15. bddrus
    bddrus 6 December 2012 12: 25
    0
    Are the plastic latches on the belts practical
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 6 December 2012 12: 31
      0
      Modern plastics can withstand heavy loads. Including temperature. And they are lighter than metal.
    2. pogis
      pogis 6 December 2012 17: 01
      0
      At me at unloading from China they burst through 10 min at-15.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 6 December 2012 17: 43
        0
        Neither know nor know ... we had a frost -20 with the wind, the latches on the backpack didn’t even react, I’ve been dragging it for the 2 year already. (on the latches even squeezed out up to 50 kg, here xs, a maximum kilogram of 10 dragged.). The backpack is ordinary, for the city, Nike (this is not an advertisement!).
  16. DAOSS
    DAOSS 6 December 2012 12: 48
    -2
    Until now camouflage figure! A shame, well, they themselves can’t come up with anything.
    Like that tortoise from the cartoon, winter has already begun and she came out with an umbrella.
    Amer has a new form design !!!
    1. Joker
      Joker 6 December 2012 13: 38
      +2
      Our super developers can’t understand this, so for that matter, they could have made a monotonous green one right away, even if they could save the paint, you see, and the shape was cheaper. And so they made some kind of slag, and they even say that it hides the bullshit from the NVD, it doesn’t hide the damn thing, day or night, you can just as well walk in a citizen, it will be more convenient.
      1. Jin
        Jin 6 December 2012 13: 59
        0
        Quote: Joker
        Yes, and they say that this bullshit from the NVD hides


        Seriously? laughing That's what I did not hear, I did not hear! Thanks for the info, I'll tell the guys)
        An inexpressive and non-contrasting pattern (I mean the combination of colors in the "numbers" pattern) Because of this, the silhouette, among other things, does not "split" well enough ... Compared to "acupat" or "multicam", "digital flora" is complete sucks. I will keep silent about the quality. Although both we and the amers, the institutes are already dealing with issues of disguise !!! Why not put people in a "kink", why ???
        1. Joker
          Joker 6 December 2012 15: 21
          +1
          Seriously? This is what I have not heard, I have not heard! Thanks for the info guys tell)

          And you did not know what? hi So they initially positioned it as invisible in the NVD, such as it was oriented on it, and as a result it is visible in the NVD and is useless during the day.
          Compared to "acupat" or "multicam", "digital flora" sucks.

          Compared to ANY American coloring, it even hides old American Woodland even in 5.
          Although both here and in the Amer, the institutions of disguise are dealt with by institutions already !!!

          Well, it is immediately noticeable how these institutions work, we can safely dismiss everyone, in general, no sense to anyone. Our Figure is the same Belarusian figure, only of the worst quality, in general they made a gamno, but as usual, we never knew how to make decent equipment.
          Why not dress people in a "kink", well why ???

          It seems to me that the Kink is darkish, it is better to do it on the basis of the American Marpat, to lighten it a bit and that’s it, the perfect stone for our area.
          1. Joker
            Joker 6 December 2012 15: 23
            0
            Here's another photo, this is already in our area.
            1. Joker
              Joker 6 December 2012 15: 26
              0
              In my opinion it is perfect for us, a little bit brighter to do everything. By the way, on the first photo, the cap in the new Marpat, modernized, you see white colors appeared there? It works even better with them, it’s like the effect of the sun between the leaves, the silhouette breaks even better.
              1. Joker
                Joker 6 December 2012 15: 39
                +2
                All pictures are clickable, you can take a closer look. And here is our dark green uniform. It can be seen that the institute "worked very hard" on its creation and "conducted tests" on the ground laughingThe one that goes far away, well, the distance of the 10-15 meters to the camera, generally in black as if laughing these are the wonders laughing
                1. Joker
                  Joker 6 December 2012 15: 42
                  0
                  But the new form of the US Army, as you can see, this is Marpat’s profound revision. As I said, they took the light to Marpat, they also made the largest pixels, they mask perfectly.
                  1. Joker
                    Joker 6 December 2012 15: 44
                    0
                    Here is another photo of the new form. It turned out, of course, lovely sight.
                  2. Jin
                    Jin 6 December 2012 16: 04
                    +1
                    Quote: Joker
                    disguises perfectly.


                    Hmm, actually I have nothing to add, and so everything is clear good How miserable is our figure, with a visual comparison !!! Yes, Oleg, to drive these developers into shape in a louse !!! How long will this dizziness continue? Probably forever (((
                    1. Joker
                      Joker 6 December 2012 16: 18
                      0
                      A month ago, I sent Rogozin a letter about this, also with the same photos, also cartoons for comparison, let's see what answers, while my letter in the departmental development is hanging, we can reply in a month hi I think if he is not a fool, he will deal with this issue. If it does not work, then everything will fall into place, as soon as the answer comes, I will immediately post it on the site.
                      1. Joker
                        Joker 6 December 2012 16: 27
                        +1
                        In general, we need a universal camouflage, which would work equally well on all types of terrain, this financial savings and convenience for the soldiers, would have accepted cartoons, would have finished a little and that was all. And then the form is green in the summer, bright in the fall, in the forest one masks well, and you will get out of it poorly, and the universal mask masks everywhere. They have already done somewhere digital camouflage in the colors of cartoons. Again that clarified Marpat. So it turned out 2 in 1 and the silhouette breaks like a digital cam and is universal due to the use of cartoons colors.
                      2. Brother Sarych
                        Brother Sarych 6 December 2012 18: 09
                        0
                        And it seems to me that in principle it is impossible to create a universal color and all attempts to create it are a waste of time! A significant part of the military does not need camouflage, but for those who really need it, it is better to specially make camouflage suits that are focused only on camouflage in a particular area - it will be cheaper and more angry ...
                      3. Joker
                        Joker 6 December 2012 22: 30
                        0
                        Brother, there is a universal camouflage, called Multicam, suitable for any type of terrain and for any time of year, well, except for winter, of course smile Of course, he hides worse than narrow-profile camouflage, for which he hides everywhere, and narrow-profile only for the theater that he intended for.
                      4. Joker
                        Joker 6 December 2012 22: 37
                        +1
                        Here it is, universal camouflage, the development of the American private company crye precision.
                      5. Brother Sarych
                        Brother Sarych 6 December 2012 22: 55
                        0
                        Something is doubtful, in my opinion, and this is far from universal coloring - depending on which places ...
                        But I won’t argue ...
                      6. Jin
                        Jin 6 December 2012 23: 05
                        0
                        Quote: Brother Sarich
                        But I won’t argue ...


                        Yes, colleague, there is no need to argue, I studied this issue for a long time. Here the amers approached the development very seriously, drove through different climatic zones, carried out work and eventually gave birth to cartoons ... I watched the "photo session" at different latitudes and landscapes, from desert to city, in different illumination, etc. impressive!

                        Not only did they jump us a lot, they already have 3D camouflage versions being tested!
                      7. Joker
                        Joker 6 December 2012 23: 34
                        +1
                        Oh, Zhenya, you wrote this to me about 3D camouflage, and I thought about printing weapons on an 3D printer laughing The cartoon is really good, there are both green and brown, white and black colors are used with interesting transitions from one to another. We have everything green at most one month a year, then everything burns out in the sun, again the forest, there is yellow leafy cover, plus the effect of sun rays through the leaves, in the Caucasus, the FSB uses this camouflage, by the way it is officially adopted by them. Here is a photo in greenery. In my opinion, it masks it well here.
                      8. Joker
                        Joker 6 December 2012 23: 38
                        +1
                        Here's another summer photo.
                      9. Joker
                        Joker 6 December 2012 23: 39
                        0
                        And here is another one in a green deciduous forest. Of the three stones, the Multikas seem to be much better.
                      10. Joker
                        Joker 6 December 2012 23: 41
                        +2
                        And here are our cartoons in Dagestan, the quality of the photo is not very. Bronik in American Woodland.
                      11. Joker
                        Joker 6 December 2012 23: 43
                        +1
                        And here is our Alpha in the multi-car.
                      12. Dikremnij
                        Dikremnij 8 December 2012 00: 45
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                        And as everyone knows "Alpha" will not wear shit.
                      13. Dikremnij
                        Dikremnij 8 December 2012 00: 43
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                        Yes, really good camouflage, because the color picker is like a MultiCama, and it really masks very well both in the forest, and in the city or desert. By the way, the British Army is moving to it now.
      2. pogis
        pogis 6 December 2012 17: 05
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        from active type PNV. such only in our country and in the countries of the 3 world.
  17. zavesa01
    zavesa01 6 December 2012 13: 35
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    Quote: Wedmak
    There was already information that the form from Yudashkin was "shamanized" by shitty iksperdy from the Moscow Region, and only then was it put into production. At least, before you grind with your tongue, check the information for accuracy.


    Excuse me, how many years ago was this Yudashkin form adopted? And he began to deny himself only AFTER they removed Serdyukov. As if he didn’t know that his ALL army on mother recalls.

    As for camouflage, the best color scheme is at the "Border Guard"
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 6 December 2012 13: 48
      +1
      How do I know why he was silent. Maybe they held for the tongue?
  18. zavesa01
    zavesa01 6 December 2012 13: 52
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    Quote: Wedmak
    There was already information that the form from Yudashkin was "shamanized" by shitty iksperdy from the Moscow Region, and only then was it put into production. At least, before you grind with your tongue, check the information for accuracy.

    Excuse me, how many years have passed since the adoption of the Yudashkin form? Why did he justify himself right now, is it because Serdyukov was removed. In my rotten smell. Or didn’t hear how his entire army obscenities?
    Personally, my opinion is better than the colors for the forest-steppe than the KZM "Pogranichnik" is not present.
  19. pogis
    pogis 6 December 2012 17: 13
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    who is interested in which camouflage is suitable for our conditions
    http://frefilms.ru/index.php?url=dmlkZW8xODQyMjg0N18xNjM2MzA2ODk/bm9pcGhvbmU=&ti
    tle=%D2%E5%F1%F2%206%20%EA%E0%EC%F3%F4%EB%FF%E6%E5%E9%20%CB%E5%F2%EE-%CE%F1%E5%E
    D%FC%28%C0%F0%F1%E5%ED%E0%EB,5%20%EA%E0%ED%E0%EB,%D3%EA%F0%E0%E8%ED%E0%29
    1. Joker
      Joker 6 December 2012 17: 34
      0
      I have already laid out this video 10 here, but the cartoons are great for us hi
      Moreover, it is universal, i.e. for any type of terrain suitable.
      1. pogis
        pogis 6 December 2012 18: 54
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        they didn’t accept it in the US, because they don’t fight in the conditions of the Euro TVD, in the light of reports on copying the RA ACU, what prevents to change the number to cartoons?
        1. Joker
          Joker 6 December 2012 22: 28
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          Fuck knows, maybe outdated production technologies do not allow recreating a drawing for cartoons, we have a figure and then each has its own color sad
  20. Comrade1945
    Comrade1945 6 December 2012 18: 33
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    Honestly, I really liked that the machine gunner Pecheneg good
  21. airatt
    airatt 6 December 2012 18: 48
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    This warrior was already shown 2 3 years ago! The advantage of Russian soldiers was always the ability to fight without electronics! How everyone reacts to various magnetic bursts and everybody knows how to glitch bodies! After all, they use magnetic bombs to incapacitate radars! and how will a fighter fight if he is taught to fight on a computer ???
    1. Jin
      Jin 6 December 2012 23: 29
      +1
      Quote: airatt
      This warrior was already shown 2 3 years ago! The advantage of Russian soldiers was always the ability to fight without electronics! How everyone reacts to various magnetic bursts and everybody knows how to glitch bodies! After all, they use magnetic bombs to incapacitate radars! and how will a fighter fight if he is taught to fight on a computer ???


      You know, with this approach, you can change everyone in riding breeches and caps again. And in figs we need all this advanced! Only when each enemy soldier has a personal, compact and effective night vision device (I am silent about the rest of the equipment), and you are trying to target him through the "phosphor" bar and front sight, which must be charged with light from any source, and have time to aim ... in short, it's too long to list these anachronisms ... who do you think will survive in the end?
  22. TNT
    TNT 6 December 2012 20: 05
    -1
    Compared with the USSR field form, yes class
  23. airatt
    airatt 9 December 2012 13: 44
    0
    compact and effective sting guns !!! probably it’s cool exactly until the flashlight shines in it or there is a bright flash from a stun grenade and then it takes off its stun guns and can’t look at all for a long time! that’s why we use light rockets and mines for fighting at night! Such bells and whistles are needed for reconnaissance and spot operations, but they only interfere in battle! It’s enough to have good light armor, a calimator and more ammunition !!!
  24. NICK17
    NICK17 12 March 2013 00: 31
    +1
    TNT,
    Have you tried to wear the uniform of the USSR? Thank God I happened! The overcoat, the sweetest thing, wasn’t blowing, it’s light and versatile, it happens that you’ll stumble into some corner, you’ll sit on one half of your overcoat and hide and sleep, but try to cover yourself with a square pea coat and get the hell out of it. she wasn’t blown under any circumstances. And at the end of the service, when we introduced pea jackets, we were the name of pea jackets, all the time we tried to put on our greatcoats. But the fools decided to cancel the footcloths, but I wore a pair of footcloths for a week or more and did not wash any fungus or corns for two years nirazu non-paid.
    And we dressed in 45 seconds, and after a minute on alarm the whole part (about 600 people) was already on the parade ground, after three minutes the officers were gathering, and after 10 we were shaking in shishig. Try so quickly get dressed in this new form. The field form of the USSR was tested by not a single generation and passed a single war, it was universal and practical. Try to crawl on your belly in a new form for about a kilometer and a half, but you will lose everything and everything, and in war you never mind that your butt can have five positions. I served in the KGB unit, so we were categorically forbidden to take any transmitting receiving devices with them up to a quartz watch in a real combat situation, because this is all a potential device for self-detection, especially foreign-made equipment, but here you are , it’ll even look for anyone inappropriately, it’s worth the current to connect to this system and kirdyk, apparently someone from our leadership has been playing games for a very long time and the roof went, he decided to turn the army into a toy too. The only good news is that, as always, we will not succeed, I read in a foreign journal in the late 80s (or rather our magazine, but the article was foreign), so it said that by 2014 all the major armies in the world would finish their rearmament, and what follows, I think I’m chewing it inappropriately, world wars just do not start, they first prepare for them for a very long time. But in general, the main thing is not the weapon, the main spirit of the soldier, and when I look at the current fighters, who are chocked away and beside them, who are frostbite and cannot warm themselves, whom grandfathers scoff at, and they cannot even protect themselves who die from hunger while sitting on boxes with a carcass just because they don’t know how to open banks without an opener, I don’t even get scared, but very sad for our country.