About amendments for marksmanship from AK

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About amendments for marksmanship from AK

Recently, a rather strange trend has begun in the near-military media space. Many shooting instructors emphasize body position and "tactical" reloading of the rifle. As if performance depends mainly on what position you took and how quickly you recharged.

In fact, no matter how strange it may sound, but shooting from the same AK is a whole science. In order to effectively hit a moving target, which often also shoots back, it is not enough to learn how to hit targets and "banks" in the shooting range.



Taking into account the fact that the Kalashnikov assault rifle allows aimed shooting at a distance of up to 600 meters, its owner, in combat conditions, must take into account the following parameters - this is the distance to the target, ballistics, wind speed and direction, as well as target movement.

If an optical sight is not installed on the AK, and the shooter does not have a laser rangefinder at hand, then one of the ways to determine the distance (not counting by eye) is the formula in thousandths, which is known to almost everyone who served in the military.

Then, when you have determined the distance, you need to correct for ballistics using the table.

But that's not all: if you are fighting in an open area, you need to take into account the strength as well as the direction of the wind. With the latter, everything is quite simple, just pay attention to any swaying object (flag, ribbon, etc.). At the same time, to determine the speed, you will need a table of corrections for the wind.

Finally, in combat, your opponent can take a position in cover, but at the same time, he can also move out of cover. To hit a moving target, you need a lead table.

By the way, about shooting from cover. At shooting ranges, as a rule, the defeat of growth, chest and head figures is practiced. So, if you want to learn how to effectively hit an enemy who fires from cover, you should train more in shooting at the head pieces.

It is worth noting that several tables were listed above, which, of course, need to be known by heart, since the shooter during the battle is unlikely to be able to get a printout out of his pocket and do mathematical calculations.

However, as professionals say, it is not necessary to “cram” each of the table values. It is enough to know some of the parameters suitable for most situations. For example, if we are talking about distance, then this is a distance from 300 to 500 meters.

How to use the above amendments correctly in practice is shown by the NVP73 channel presenter:

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    1. -10
      15 May 2023 19: 27
      What kind of accurate shooting from the AK can we talk about? What "heap" will the best AK barrel collect? Even the notorious SVD 2 (TWO, Karl, MOA), but what can I say for AK? Twos and threes up to 200 m. But in fact .. Everything has long been thought out by "P" - the position is practically universal.
      1. +2
        15 May 2023 19: 50
        Quote from Wolfskin1993
        What kind of accurate shooting from the AK can we talk about? What "heap" will the best AK barrel gather? ... In twos or threes up to 200 m.

        Normal, indestructible weapon. I know firsthand. I just didn’t understand why you would shoot at 200 meters? In whom?
        1. -3
          15 May 2023 19: 57
          AK assault weapon. Further 300m is not effective. It is optimal to shoot with "twos" and "triples", if there is no urgent need to crush with fire.
          1. -1
            20 May 2023 22: 06
            Both you and the vast majority, even those who had to shoot "twos" - "triples" in combat, have no idea, and they have no idea what this skill was required for.
            And I'm not going to explain, who needs to know or understand.
      2. -1
        15 May 2023 19: 57
        Found the "specialist"! It's obvious that you don't know shit. It makes no sense to shoot with triplets at all, aiming - best of all with deuces. A bunch of beautiful AKs - an accurate machine gun!
        1. -4
          15 May 2023 20: 04
          I'm sorry! How accurate? I consider less than 0,5 MOA to be an accurate weapon.
      3. 0
        16 May 2023 03: 19
        Are armchair experts always manipulating MOAs? When there is a "movement" no one considers the direction of the wind, humidity and pressure! Then they just work ... And quickly replace the magazine and pull the shutter, this is necessary on the "automatic" without hesitation ... Therefore, sometimes the position of the body also affects the rate of fire ... And getting into a person who was standing at full height is much easier !
        1. +1
          4 June 2023 09: 10
          You can not explain anything when a person without the slightest idea about the realities of the battle, without taking into account the skills and experience of the average fighter, his experience of being on the NSP line, the state of weapons and the availability of RAV services, the experience of direct commanders, etc., and 1000 tons, etc., even ate the shooter today or not, argues, puffing out his cheeks and reveling in his knowledge of the Internet user and virtual games, about MOA. Based on personal experience, it’s completely useless to explain something more mundane and useful that will save their lives, he’s higher than that, he read on Wikipedia, and you tell him about a wrapped swivel or a sooty aiming bar and what to do so as not to crap yourself at close explosion. A simple question on which to stop discussing this fiction, 90% of small arms in practice in the troops have an open sight or, at best, a collimator with a planted battery, as in combat conditions, smoke, dust, sweat on your eyes, etc. you at 200+ (about 600 is generally nonsense, which makes no sense to discuss), at least find a chest (about the head only for cybersportsmen (I never understood the meaning of this term)) target, not to mention tables and amendments, etc. narrowly elite sniper "toys ". , and some comments are not even discussed, like baby talk.
    2. +2
      15 May 2023 19: 28
      In the army, I "learned" in the second year of service - I was aiming from my AKM 7,62 mm a little to the left and lower - about 6 ... 8 centimeters. The second bullet in the line goes a little higher and to the right, and the target is so mod. covered stably.
      Of the 12 rounds for three targets (far - 350 meters), half of the rounds were handed back.
      AKM knocks down targets pts. well, I was always sure of it! Pts. love this machine!
      (Only the edge of the sight always shines - it is polished when worn - this is not very good. But it can be solved))
    3. +3
      15 May 2023 19: 29
      All this entertaining ballistics is treated by shooting on the ground, because it is not possible to establish the strength of the wind in specific numbers. Especially when you consider that over a distance of 600 meters, the direction and strength of air flows can change significantly. For example, when shooting across a lake or river, the humidity and air density also change along the entire trajectory ... Moreover, this influence is especially great for small-caliber bullets
      1. -3
        15 May 2023 19: 48
        For AK it doesn't matter. And the pros assemble the cartridge according to local conditions, immediately before use.
    4. +5
      15 May 2023 19: 32
      600 meters for AK is very optimistic. I think position P covers all situations.
      1. -5
        15 May 2023 19: 38
        Absolutely agree!
        Further 300 m, just a harassing fire.
        1. +3
          15 May 2023 20: 00
          About reloading. If, for that matter, in battle, in a stressful situation, the tenth store will be charged with exactly the technique that will be the most optimal for you. This is where you need to earn it.
        2. -1
          15 May 2023 20: 15
          Further 300 m, just a harassing fire.

          I calmly hit the target with a "machine gun" at a shooting range at a distance of 350 meters, and this is from an AKM, and even easier with an AK-74.
      2. -1
        16 May 2023 03: 23
        If we are talking about AKM-7,62, then of course you can get to 600 meters! But the AK-74 5,45 is out of the question! Effective shooting no more than 250-300 meters ..
        1. 0
          20 May 2023 22: 29
          Wow! In fact, the AK-74 with 5,45 has a much better flatness of the trajectory and the accuracy is correspondingly higher. He had, unlike you, dealt with both calibers.
    5. +5
      15 May 2023 19: 36
      Many shooting instructors emphasize body position and "tactical" reloading of the rifle.

      I would like to force these left-handed clowns to change the store with their left hand in the prone position, and then crawl in a plastunsky way with a bunch of stores on their chests.
      1. +4
        15 May 2023 19: 53
        Quote: Konnick
        Many shooting instructors emphasize body position and "tactical" reloading of the rifle.

        I would like to force these left-handed clowns to change the store with their left hand in the prone position, and then crawl in a plastunsky way with a bunch of stores on their chests.

        Agree. Each shooter has their own take on the reloading of the assault rifle. Most likely, he will reload the machine in the way he is accustomed to, honed over years of service and training.
        1. +4
          15 May 2023 20: 14
          I'm left-handed, and I always reloaded the AK with the right, as it is more convenient. It’s inconvenient for me, left-handed, to cock the shutter, from the fact that you release the fore-end with the right, it’s problematic to hold the handle with the left and pull the shutter with the right.
          1. +2
            15 May 2023 21: 22
            I'm left handed

            I meant right-handers in videos, even from the Kalashnikov concern, reloading with their left hand and clattering under the bolt with their left hand too. The shutter on the AK is designed for right-handers. Even the magazine pouch should be on the right side of the belt. I may be old-fashioned, but it was even more convenient for me to run forced marches, holding the machine gun over my right shoulder, holding the belt tight and resting the machine gun in the crook of my elbow. But now, in Hollywood, they drag it around the neck, with the barrel down, shortening the belt, using one swivel, which makes it difficult to lift it later and press it to the shoulder, and it’s generally inconvenient to rush to the ground with a machine gun, so they walk, holding the machine gun in the air and looking at the barrel ... with your eyes you need to quickly look around, and not stare at the trunk. We have seen enough American, and already our militants ...

    6. +1
      15 May 2023 20: 07
      Everything is purely individual and different for each situation - the shooter and his position "in space", machine gun, ammunition, weather conditions ... And each condition-situation has a bunch of sub-points and clarifications that do not fall into the instructions. And in the school and in the future, I shot from a machine gun only perfectly ... if it is possible to designate events when the target was far from paper, but very voluminous and nimble. But ... I still remember when we were literally trained on
      an exam in firearms training - they fired from everything that was in service with the "infantry" ... ammunition was not counted at all. He was in real fucking (now they would say "in shock") - on the move through the side loophole of the BMP-1, he burned about 500 rounds of ammunition from the PK and not a single hit in a group of 6 growth at a distance of 600-800 meters. How??? Yes, the car was shaking and tossing up, but five hundred rounds of ammunition into the white light ... Science turned out to be powerless. feel What a shame it was...
      1. +1
        15 May 2023 20: 13
        Don't worry! According to statistics, only one in 20 rounds finds its target.
      2. -2
        20 May 2023 22: 36
        For me, another thing is surprising, how did you even manage to consider at least something at a distance of 600-800 meters. Vision must be absolutely 100%. The limit for shooting on the move, or at a moving target, according to experience, is somewhere around 450-500 meters, only circus magicians can work at long ranges.
        1. 0
          22 May 2023 13: 13
          Other times, other standards ... there was nothing unusual in shooting at 800 meters from a machine gun.
          1. 0
            22 May 2023 20: 19
            The standard is 600-800 meters when firing through the side loophole of the BMP-1, it seems that this was discussed? And this is something from the realm of non-science fiction, probably something from the series "Soldiers".
            Although, there was something like shooting at a target a car in motion, from a coaxial machine gun, through a sight, just at a distance of about 800 meters. So even the tracers go out there. And this is not even your case.
    7. +1
      15 May 2023 20: 21
      35 years ago he served in the military. Engineers. He loved to shoot. SCS in service. Kalashnikov was only dismantled and assembled. Out of 3, he knocked out 27. They didn’t let him shoot a lot. Three sighting, three count. But they shot often. Relatively.
      1. +1
        15 May 2023 22: 35
        In 2020, the brother of the wife fired 5 shots from a machine gun in a year on an urgent basis. So it goes.
        1. -3
          15 May 2023 22: 59
          In 2020, the wife's brother fired 5 shots from a machine gun in a year

          On the other hand, officers with ensigns shot to their heart's content, and reported that the soldiers shot back, such a vicious practice in our army, and even worse when they are sold to the side. In the American one, 6 rounds of ammunition relies on the course of a young fighter.
    8. +3
      15 May 2023 20: 27
      I read the statistics for a long time, but for memory only 20% aims at the enemy, in World War 1 5 thousand rounds were spent on one destroyed enemy, in MV 2 25 thousand, in Korean 50 thousand. Snipers took 1,2 rounds per one destroyed. In reality, they spent less cartridges, these are the cartridges taken into account according to the data of the factories, but not all of them reached the front, there were considerable losses. About instructors: they say the war is different now at the shooting range, therefore, in their opinion, the preparation is different, it is necessary to minimize the area of ​​​​destruction, the question of how the area of ​​​​destruction will decrease, if the preparation does not affect either height or weight, did not receive an answer, get ready because for It is more convenient for you, it is said in all instructions.
      1. -3
        15 May 2023 20: 35
        A sniper in real life, they shoot a lot of rounds, picking up attachments for different conditions. But then, looking at their accumulated Talmud, they collect a cartridge for specifics. And then really 1 shot is the result.
    9. +1
      15 May 2023 22: 36
      the Kalashnikov assault rifle allows you to conduct aimed shooting at a distance of up to 600 meters


      https://inosmi.ru/20221016/kalashnikov-256826703.html
      When determining the practical accuracy of shooting at a growth target at a distance of 800 meters, good shooters needed 11 shots to hit it from a prone position in an equipped position, 20 shots from an equipped position in a trench, and 26 shots from a prone position in an unequipped position. With regard to AKM, these figures have grown to 18, 22 and 41 shots, respectively. When shooting from the knee using the AK-74, well-trained shooters were able to hit a growth target from a distance of 700 meters, although they spent 45 rounds on it. As for the AKM, such a goal was submitted to them only at a distance of 500 meters, which took 36 attempts. Intermediate shooters using the AK-74 needed 14 shots to hit chest and body targets from 300 meters away. For the same, only with the use of AKM, 47 attempts were spent. The AK-74 has demonstrated a significant increase in accuracy when shooting at small and medium targets compared to the AKM for both experienced and intermediate shooters.
    10. -1
      15 May 2023 22: 52
      NVP73 respect and respect! Looking forward to more videos from you!
    11. 0
      20 May 2023 22: 22
      My God! What have I read here? Measure distance when firing from AK using formulas? This is done by eye. As a last resort, according to the divisions on binoculars or a sight. At ranges of more than 500 meters without optics, you will not see much at all.
      And, probably, a sailor or a cook wrote that little depends on the position when firing. How it depends. The most comfortable is lying down, the most difficult is from the knee, and the worst is standing. The AK was sorely lacking a handle on the forearm, or at least a protrusion for gripping. The most important thing is to learn to observe the results of your own shooting and adjust the fire as you go.
      And in general, at the beginning of the clash, the first store is released immediately, without any "twos" - "triples" there.
      And only then, you can think, evaluate, aim.
    12. 0
      6 July 2023 11: 23
      All these articles are nonsense. Watch the videos on the cart. Either they beat with their hands from a trench, or the battle goes on at a distance of 10 meters. What are the scope settings? This is not a landfill for you. I watched it yesterday: ours were boozing in position, they didn’t set up any mines, or observations. Ukrainians approached on the armor, jumped out and killed everyone in a minute. One grandfather was taken prisoner, he threw the machine gun, 59 years old ....

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