UK to send 200 attack drones to Ukraine amid France's refusal to provide fighter jets

The UK authorities have decided to supply Ukraine with 200 attack unmanned aerial vehicles with a range of more than 200 kilometers. The Guardian writes about this, citing a source in the British Cabinet.

Confirm transfer decision drones due to Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Rishi Sunak. It is noteworthy that this decision is made against the backdrop of France's refusal to provide the Kyiv regime with Western-made fighter jets, although this was requested by the Ukrainian leadership.

A French official told Politico that the transfer of fighter jets would be premature as France is focused on transferring air defense and ground weapons.

Earlier, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky, who continues to beg Western governments for weapons during his trip to Europe, met the same refusal in Germany. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz noted that Germany will focus on assistance in the field of air defense.

As you can see, Rishi Sunak turned out to be the most accommodating of all Western leaders. The UK will transfer hundreds of air defense missiles, attack drones and other ammunition to Ukraine.

Note that earlier London handed over long-range Storm Shadow missiles, which are already used by the Kyiv regime for attacks against civilians in Lugansk. There is no doubt that the attack drones currently being transferred by the UK will be used to carry out sabotage attacks against Russian targets, to which Russia must give an unambiguous answer to London.

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[Gpn27]

The situation is deteriorating rapidly. Considering that the weapons are controlled by their "vacationers", our army can be destroyed by high-tech weapons and equipment without regard to any costs. It is necessary to raise the stakes by striking at the destruction of Ukraine as a country. Harm to the environment, civilians in this case is secondary.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

—- With such a saturation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the weapons of the West, delays in initiative military operations by the Russian Army are not in favor of Russia.

—- This is a trial balloon - to see how Russia reacts. And when they see it, the rest will catch up (forbid and save !!)

[Tatyana]

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky, who continues to beg Western governments for weapons during his trip to Europe,

In the opinion of the United States themselves, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have more than enough foreign weapons now!

Therefore, the president of Ukroreich is a Jew Zelensky does not "travel around Europe" at all, but he - immediately on May 3, 2023, when the UAF drone attacked Putin in the Kremlin - for almost 2 weeks it has been HIDING in Europe from personal retribution to him personally from Moscow! (Sarcasm.)

[dmi.pris1]

Do you really believe in the "sufficiency of the supplied weapons"? A lot is at stake. You see how the assortment of foreign weapons is expanding. As for "hiding" maybe in the first two days.

[Tatyana]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Do you really believe in the "sufficiency of the supplied weapons"?

Of course I absolutely do not trust Washington!
Of course, in the supply of weapons to Ukroreyhu, the United States will not stop. Namely.

1. For the US military-industrial complex, the war of Ukroreich with Russia on the TVD of Ukraine - this is too profitable militaristic business.

2. Washington has a project for Europe and Ukraine itself, voiced in 2016 by Hillary Clinton, is creation of the "American United States of Europe".

3. The United States, having infiltrated Ukraine in the form of its 51st state, will justify for itself all its military expenses with TRILLIONS of dollars of income from the absolute colonization of the entire territory of Ukraine with its natural wealth and geographical location without the vast majority of the local Ukrainian population!

Quote from: dmi.pris1

As for "hiding" maybe in the first two days. For our drivers, this Mr. and yes is not the goal

However, Zelensky himself loves himself too much and understands that not only from Moscow, but also his own people in Kyiv itself can kill him!

Of course, Zelensky will still have to return to Ukroreich from Europe!
However, political scientists rightly pointed out that to roam Zelensky around Europe - under security guarantees from the US intelligence services - Washington took the cowardly Zelensky "for a walk" only 2 weeks.
So we'll see when Zelya returns to her Ukroreich!

[Sid2014]

The supply of such weapons is a direct threat to the peaceful life of Russia! Question? Is this what our leaders wanted when they started the NWO? They are already attacking Lugansk. Not far off strikes deep into our territory! The enemies realized that they could put the squeeze on us by military means!!! For we have neither the strength nor the means nor the WILL! (comm of Dmitry Steshin)! But if also grain. deal will be extended! People are beginning to understand! But do our authorities really think to sit out as a result of the defeat !!! I'm not guarding a patriot no, but what's happening is already beyond! I ask the minusers to explain their position!

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Sid2014

The enemies realized that they could put the squeeze on us by military means!!!

We, first of all, the management are stupidly simmered, hence the zero reaction

[Foul skeptic]

It is necessary to raise the stakes by striking at the destruction of Ukraine as a country. Harm to the environment, civilians in this case is secondary.

Again "the monkey shakes the nuclear club"? When, after that, the situation worsens even more rapidly, such "specialists" will blink their eyes in surprise and ask, how can this be.

[Horon]

When, after that, the situation worsens even more rapidly, such "specialists" will blink their eyes in surprise and ask, how can this be.

Yes, of course, why do we need Yao, in the trash he, we will measure the genitals with the whole world with the help of conventional weapons, one hundred million "Ivans" can easily compete with one billion "Jons", "Hans", "Zhans", etc.
Do you really think to conquer the whole world? We have no allies, we have a weak industry and we have challenged the world hegemon - are you ready to lose? Apparently, we don’t have any more arguments left, well, except to wag the “fifth” point, portraying humanity and slowly try on the role and fate of the Indians of America and clap our eyes, how is it that we have no place left on this planet.

[Foul skeptic]

Do you really think to conquer the whole world?

I? God forbid. You confused me with 99% of VO users a year ago.

We have no allies, we have a weak industry and we have challenged the world hegemon - are you ready to lose?

It's not a "ready/not ready" question. This is a matter of "industry, allies" and society.

Apparently acre yao, we have no more arguments left

It remains to figure out why using it will improve the situation, and not worsen it.

[Horon]

It remains to figure out why using it will improve the situation, and not worsen it.

It remains to think of the difference in what your relatives will die from, because the world in the person of the hegemon with the company has already determined the death penalty for them ...

[Foul skeptic]

It remains to think of the difference in what your relatives will die from, because the world in the person of the hegemon with the company has already determined the death penalty for them ...

Do you have something to say instead of empty nonsense on the case?

[topol717]

Quote: Nefarious skeptic

Again "the monkey shakes the nuclear club"? When, after that, the situation worsens even more rapidly, such "specialists" will blink their eyes in surprise and ask, how can this be.

What's next? Then we'll see. Now no one knows what and from whom the reaction will be.
One thing is clear, the West dreams that the Russian Federation would use nuclear weapons, and it does not matter tactical or strategic. Apparently they expect to write off their debts for this case.
In general, the island began to think too much about itself.
We must learn from the experience of undermining gas pipelines. Saying highley likes blew up the British, we answered them.

[Foul skeptic]

One thing is clear, the West dreams that the Russian Federation would use nuclear weapons

Naturally dreams. It's hard to come up with a bigger gift from us.
And at the same time, the "specialists" call in chorus to do what is beneficial to the enemy, and not to us.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote from: topol717

What's next? Then we'll see. Now no one knows what and from whom the reaction will be.
One thing is clear, the West dreams that the Russian Federation would use nuclear weapons, and it does not matter tactical or strategic.

He can dream about it only in one case - if he thinks to remain safe and sound. It is clear that the method is extreme, and it is better to start treatment with conservative methods, but it is necessary to show determination.

[Horon]

One thing is clear, the West dreams that the Russian Federation would use nuclear weapons, and it does not matter tactical or strategic.

The West has long begun to doubt its existence and also our ability to use it as an argument. The fact that dill has an option with a dirty bomb, which he will use in any case, is unknown only to the blind-deaf-dumb. And that's why the West began to doubt our Yao, and for us this is a much more useful question than the question: "what will happen if we apply it."

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: A vile skeptic

It is necessary to raise the stakes by striking at the destruction of Ukraine as a country. Harm to the environment, civilians in this case is secondary.

Again "the monkey shakes the nuclear club"? When, after that, the situation worsens even more rapidly, such "specialists" will blink their eyes in surprise and ask, how can this be.

In this case, it may not be a better or worse situation. Rather, as in the old Soviet action movie "pirates of the 20th century" - "to die with honor and at the same time end you"

[meandr51]

I'll tell you more. If Britain is hitting our troops with its missiles, controlled by vacationers, then our released pilot on the MIG-31K may well hit some object in Britain with the "Dagger". Best of all is their General Staff.

[saigon]

In the cart appeared about who the hell knows the UAV at the airport, it seems like London and like Warsaw, I don’t know to believe. The case is muddy, but if true, then good and good luck to the IRA

[trenkkvaz]

Russia has already used dozens of times more such weapons than it is supplied to Ukraine.
But something of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has not gone away. There is no need to exaggerate the capabilities of such weapons. Its main drawback is the high cost, and therefore a limited number.
Practice shows that cheap and numerous low-tech weapons play the main role on the battlefield.
From conventional artillery, losses are many times greater than from attack UAVs and missiles combined.

[Ivan Ivanov]

We won’t be able to take out the cheap and technologically advanced against the West alone, the potential difference is too large.

[Vladimir80]

From conventional artillery, losses are many times greater than from strike UAVs and missiles combined

here is a remark - there is no sense in shooting from artillery either "it is not known where with unknown accuracy having lost time"

[MeVED]

What about statistics? Where to look? My belief is that the opposite is true: technologically advanced weapons are cheaper to use. As an example: our troops had many times more tanks, they had javelins, all kinds of pturs, which are much cheaper. The losses of our armored vehicles during the NWO are huge, which is obvious. How many shells will the artillery, and indeed the installations themselves, need to destroy the same number of tanks in battle? Precision-guided munitions are also an order of magnitude more efficient than conventional ones. Yes, and the artillery itself is more effective with the use of drones in reconnaissance.

[incognoto]

cause damage, yes, but not destroy it .. you need to develop your industry and emerge from the war as a winner with a developed economy ...

[azkolt]

Quote from Gpn27

The situation is deteriorating rapidly. Considering that the weapons are controlled by their "vacationers", our army can be destroyed by high-tech weapons and equipment without regard to any costs. It is necessary to raise the stakes by striking at the destruction of Ukraine as a country. Harm to the environment, civilians in this case is secondary.

They are already going to train pilots (and perhaps they are already preparing) pilots on the F-16. Today they discussed it at Vesti FM, since it is still better to launch missiles already delivered from them. In short, the situation is terrible, I listened and recalled that if someone hadn’t wanted to drive for zipuns, all this would not have happened. That's what they thought when they prepared the operation, will we find out or not?

[Roma 1977]

And what unambiguous answer should Russia give to London? He didn't seem to ask anything.

[Smoked]

This is where I'm at a loss as well. Perhaps this is a saying such for such news.

[meandr51]

If adequate, then a dagger on the bunker of the English General Staff. All others will not be taken into account.

[azkolt]

Quote: meandr51

If adequate, then a dagger on the bunker of the English General Staff. All others will not be taken into account.

Not necessarily at all. A blow to Bankovaya and other centers is enough. This will be the first step. And just to warn and do this should the whole world, our chief eliminater!

[Alexandr2637]

to which Russia should give an unequivocal answer to London

Should, but won't. Maximum - indignation or concern.

[azkolt]

Quote: Alexandr2637

to which Russia should give an unequivocal answer to London

Should, but won't. Maximum - indignation or concern.

Why maximum? At the most, this is a deep concern. So not all stages of humiliation have been passed yet. The authorities demonstrate to the whole world that you can wipe your feet on Russia!

[Volunteer Marek]

France refused to transfer fighters? She didn't give up, but rather hesitated. They will be handed over in any case, as well as the F-16. It's a question of time. So, we need to act on the basis that Bandera has aviation, contrary to the assurances of talking heads.

[donavi49]

In general, the article is misinterpreted. The issue of fighters with Meloni, Scholz and Macron was raised not in the “Give” format, but in the format of a coalition of lobbyists. I repeat, who can give the F-16 - there is already a queue and two have officially agreed to be in the first row (Denmark and the Netherlands), but the overseas happy grandfather has not yet given the go-ahead.

In general, Macron has nothing to give except for the TSA, if for fighters, only money, TSA and lobbying.

Scholz, Meloni and Sunak can be formed as Eurofighters of the first modification (Britain withdraws them all by 25, only one squadron will be Aggressors, the rest are removed from the balance, Italy is similar, Germany ordered 38 Eurofighters trache4 in 20, which will replace 1, but in the future after 25). They've been talking about this since winter.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Quote: donavi49

In general, Macron has nothing to give except for the TSA, if for fighters, only money, TSA and lobbying.

Were the early Rafalis not going to be launched?

[donavi49]

It makes no sense to deal with them, as well as with Mirages2000. They are special, they are very limited compatible (that is, the main burden of ASP, support will fall on France), well, there is no quantity. That is, the basic costs are huge, logistics is loaded - and the exhaust is very so-so.

Why now everything has come down to the F-16 - because everything is in abundance with the world on it. There are TSA donors, and aircraft donors, and maintenance donors, and donors for money-training-transportation. In fact, everything rests on the politically voiced decision of the happy grandfather.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

Quote: donavi49

It makes no sense to deal with them, as well as with Mirages2000. They are special, they are very limited compatible (that is, the main burden of ASP, support will fall on France), well, there is no quantity.

Well, Mirage is really a leaving texture. Although some kind of 2000-9 against the background of the fact that it flies ... But about the limited compatibility of Rafal, I'm a little surprised. That is, the first Rafalis are really much worse compatible with modern non-French weapons than the first Typhoons? It seems that the French learned to mate with the same Meteor a couple of years earlier than the Anglo-Germans. And Storm Shadow is the same French scalp.

[Wildcat]

IMHO, with Mirages / Rafales it can turn out like with French "wheeled tanks", after which "normal tanks" appeared - both Leo2 and Abrams and Challengers2.

France can give Mirages / Rafali to the squadron, "hanging" air defense / SEAD and strikes with the same Scalps on it. In principle, France will be able to provide logistics / technical support for one unit. The same trick can be pulled by Germany/Italy/Great Britain with Eurofighters.
This could be primarily a political decision for the next transfer of the "red lines".
But information is being "thrown" into the press that the delivery of F16 at once is being discussed, without "intermediate decisions".

And the "happy grandfather" in the summer, when the allocated 48 billion for the Armed Forces of Ukraine runs out, it will be possible to help the Armed Forces of Ukraine with "good advice" and permission to re-export F16 for other countries. As they say, "there is no money, but you hold on" (C), but in order to "hold on" better, they will give F16.

By the way, it is interesting that the issue of attack helicopters is not raised.

[Mol_18]

Great Britain, makes a transfer precedent, thereby showing other countries that it is possible to transfer other types of weapons. It was Britain that began the saga with tanks, and now with cruise missiles. They made a precedent. And then they wrote that Britain would begin training pilots for f 16. So ... It will be "fun"

[Nexcom]

For more than a year now, sharovnye have been singing that their pilots in the USA are being retrained in F16. And what? No planes, no pilots... So far.

[Mol_18]

The preparation will go on for a year or more, and then they will make an after the fact report that the planes will be handed over, and the pilots will already be ready. And it will turn out the same as with Storm, after the announcement of the next day's delivery, it will be used.

[Nexcom]

You want to say that during this time, airfields will appear at the ball valves where F16 gravel will not be sucked into the engines from the runway, infrastructure for maintenance, equipment, warehouses of special fluids and fuels and lubricants for F16, warehouses of suspended weapons and ammunition will appear (the Soviet one cannot be screwed there) .. ...

if that's all it was - yes, they would have already transferred F16. But this is not and is not expected.
unless they start flying from Poland - the Poles have all this for F16.

[Mol_18]

unless they start flying from Poland - the Poles have it all for F16

Just the Poles can fly or retired US Air Force pilots, for a good salary you can find. And the training, more precisely, the retraining of Ukrainian pilots, can be carried out in 1,5 -2 years. Yes, you correctly noted that the airfield will be a problem and infrastructure is a key problem, why are they not there. But you and I don’t know what trends are in NATO and Ukraine, perhaps airfields are being re-equipped, and the possibilities of American material support and their logistics are very high, they will be able to organize an airfield and logistics to it.

[man]

For more than a year now, sharovnye have been singing that their pilots in the USA are being retrained in F16. And what? No planes, no pilots.
Spit it out!

[Horon]

Quote from: bk-sarmat

nothing new, the cowardice of the Kremlin, and the venality of the so-called elites .... the country is very expensive

The "cowardly" Kremlin was not prevented by cowardice from falling into dill. Here it is rather not a matter of cowardice, but of the adequacy of the reaction, it is for this reason that the situation has developed as it has developed. We got into the fight not with our sleeves pulled up, but with our pants down, and instead of immediately hitting the enemy on the head, we are trying to bruise him and tear his shirt.

[Tagan]

Most likely, at least part of this "good" has already been transferred. It often happens that there is too short a period of time between the voicing of intentions and the start of application.

[Shamil88]

The year of the SVO showed that the Kremlin is ruled by the oligarchs and the Russian army is fighting exactly as much as the Jewish oligarchs allow it, therefore the infrastructure of the ho.lov is not destroyed, and while the corrupt elite stirs up agreements with the enemy. Ukraine will be so armed, including aviation, that they will strike already deep into the rear of Russia and there will be no advantage for us, and so in terms of communications, reconnaissance, artillery, although not in quantity, but in range, they surpass us, I generally keep quiet in terms of the number of UAVs . They will soon overtake us in everything with the help of the West, and grandfather is sleeping, they shot down two planes and two helicopters, and the Moscow Region is silent, head in the sand and as if nothing had happened.

[Foul skeptic]

the army fights exactly as much as the Jewish oligarchs allow it, so the infrastructure of ho.lov is not destroyed

No "permissions from the Jewish oligarchs" will change anything, the army is already showing its maximum. All advocates for the "destruction of infrastructure" should first list all the necessary targets among the infrastructure (with coordinates), and then the means with which they are going to destroy. The strikes on the energy system did not teach anything, although they very clearly demonstrated "efficiency".

[Shamil88]

Destroy all thermal power plants, bridges, government offices, banks, railway depots, substations near nuclear power plants, hunt for the political and military elite of Ukraine every day, block the pumping of oil and gas through them, arrange sabotage throughout Europe, blow up the oil and gas pipeline from Norway to Europe if there is a leadership with eggs, then a lot of things can be done so that Europe, too, can smell the war.

[man]

if there is a leadership with eggs, then a lot of things can be done so that Europe also smells the war.
So where do we get the egg manual?

[Foul skeptic]

Destroy all thermal power plants, bridges, government offices, banks, railway depots, substations near nuclear power plants, every day hunt for the political and military elite of Ukraine

I kind of asked to indicate the number and location of targets, plus the means of destruction. That is, specifics. Instead of throwing empty general phrases.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Attacks on the energy system did not teach anything, although they very clearly demonstrated "efficiency"

In particular, the inefficiency of strikes? From us, for some time, they sat without electricity, and before that, in May last year, without fuel.

[Foul skeptic]

In particular, the inefficiency of strikes?

The fact that they did not affect the combat capability of Ukraine. On the contrary, her air defense was strengthened.

From us for some time sat without light

AND? Were the babayki scared and asked for peace? Or did the Armed Forces of Ukraine receive increased support from the population as a result?

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Nefarious skeptic

Or did the Armed Forces of Ukraine receive increased support from the population as a result?

And in 41-45 we had to worry about the support of the Wehrmacht by the population of Germany, or did we still solve military tasks? The lack of light is a blow to logistics and industry, what does the babayka have to do with it?

[Foul skeptic]

And in 41-45 we had to worry about the support of the Wehrmacht by the population of Germany, or did we still solve military tasks?

So you did not solve any problem, and the enemy population rallied even stronger.

The lack of light is a blow to logistics and industry, what does the babayka have to do with it?

What "logistics" and what "industry"? What are the consequences - the front was left without supplies? Didn't stay.

[AlexKruglov1976]

Shouldn't we put Poseidon with a nuclear warhead in the UK with delivery under our own power?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: AlexKruglov1976

Shouldn't we put Poseidon with a nuclear warhead in the UK with delivery under our own power?

Firstly, there is still no Poseidon with a nuclear warhead ...
Secondly, everything that the potential Poseidon would arrange in the UK would wash the shores of the Kola Peninsula, the White Sea Line, etc. throughout the Arctic in 2-3 weeks.
This is to understand the relationships in nature.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: SovAr238A

Secondly, everything that the potential Poseidon would arrange in the UK, in 2-3 weeks would wash the shores of the Kola Peninsula, the White Sea Line, etc. throughout the Arctic. This is to understand the relationships in nature

So nuclear weapons are not consciously not for breeding trout in the North Sea, this is an argument for the slow-witted, the last argument, terrible, but without a willingness to use it, opponents cannot be impressed.

[man]

Shouldn't we put Poseidon with a nuclear warhead in the UK with delivery under our own power?
It seems that our leadership set the cons for you
And I will support! Why, then, do we need nuclear weapons at all, if the whole world already understands that the Kremlin will never use them? And Britain is a very good choice, I approve There is a possibility that the nuclear cloud will not reach us. At the same time, we will check if the states have eggs

[Ivan Ivanov]

I agree that without a willingness to use nuclear weapons, it is not even suitable for an honorable surrender.

[paul3390]

This is all from impunity .. If our leaders had Faberge, negotiations would have been going on for a long time on the supply of weapons to, say, Argentina, the IRA would have intensified, having received any support it needed, partisans would have started up in all the former English colonies, smashing the property of British companies, well - and so on and so forth .. But then - perhaps the thought that maybe - it’s not worth spoiling Russia, would have leaked into the stupid Saxons?

But for this - you need a real elite. And this is not the devil-something that flourishes in our country but not in power ..

[Foul skeptic]

negotiations on the supply of weapons to, say, Argentina would have been underway for a long time, the IRA would have become more active, having received any support it needs, partisans would have started up in all the former British colonies, smashing the property of British companies, well - and so on and so forth.

And where did you get the idea that the same Argentina needs it? Or the IRA?

[your1970]

Quote: A vile skeptic

negotiations on the supply of weapons to, say, Argentina would have been underway for a long time, the IRA would have become more active, having received any support it needs, partisans would have started up in all the former British colonies, smashing the property of British companies, well - and so on and so forth.

And where did you get the idea that the same Argentina needs it? Or the IRA?

And he thinks what if US it is necessary, then everyone needs it right there ...
And Argentina will rush to fight right there, and the IRA will blow up bonbas ...

[paul3390]

They may not rush to fight right away - but I don’t think that the small Britons will like the appearance of, say, a certain number of modern anti-ship missiles in Argentina ..

[SovAr238A]

Quote: paul3390

They may not rush to fight right away - but I don’t think that the small Britons will like the appearance of, say, a certain number of modern anti-ship missiles in Argentina ..

This strange military operation did not give you anything ...
You didn't understand the most important thing.
The presence of tens and hundreds of missiles does not give absolutely anything without a developed economy ...
For when resources are needed in the form of ensuring the war, it will turn out that there is nothing.
Like us, there is not even a form

[paul3390]

And where did you get that you don't need it? It's like suggesting .. Everyone's claims to the small Britons have not gone away. You have to work with the unhappy! They are all around us - they manage to find those who want to do dirty tricks? Or do you think that the arrogant people in the world love somehow better than us? They messed up all over the globe - and what, you can’t find a single person who wants to get even? I do not believe.

[man]

And where did you get the idea that the same Argentina needs it? Or the IRA?
You can just give weapons and promise money for each sabotage We will pay by the piece!

[Vladimir80]

negotiations on the supply of weapons to, say, Argentina would have been going on for a long time, the IRA would have become more active, having received any support it needs, partisans would have started up in all the former English colonies

excuse me, please, but this is fierce nonsense, no one needs either islands or weapons - in a well-fed Europe and a well-lived South America, all radical movements "died" twenty or thirty years ago ... even Cuba has long been in the same fairway with west...

for this - you need a real elite

yes, but where to get it, where will it come from and who will let it go upstairs?! So I'm constantly wondering - is there such a person as his last name?

[man]

for this - you need a real elite

yes, but where to get it, where will it come from and who will let it go upstairs?! So I'm constantly wondering - is there such a person as his last name?
And for what purpose are you interested, and even constantly? (with suspicion)

[Vladimir80]

And for what purpose are you interested, and even constantly?

interesting at the philistine level - there are many people in the information space who are trustworthy, who say quite the right words (I'm not talking about "political scientists" in the nightingale), but there is no support behind them ... ps do not offer "inmates" from the Vladimir region! :)

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

The transfer of F-16 aircraft is just a matter of time for the training of Ukrainian Air Force pilots. It seems to me that it's time to block the border with the Poles with sharovary and blockade Odessa, otherwise all this could drag on for many years. It's my personal opinion.

[Vladimir80]

it seems it's time to block the sharovarny border

time??? and a year ago it was not time?? if nothing has been done in 15 months, then continue the thought yourself, please!
in my opinion, it's time to give up - "all this" was muddied by overseas puppeteers, the people (who else is capable of thinking) were convinced that we are not capable of anything serious ... we must retreat while there is still time, and there are still people (who speak Russian ) ...

[Foul skeptic]

in my opinion, it's time to give up - "all this" was muddied by overseas puppeteers, the people (who else is capable of thinking) were convinced that we are not capable of anything serious ... we must retreat while there is still time, and there are still people (who speak Russian ) ...

You understand that you can’t just say - well, that’s it, we changed our minds, let’s pretend that nothing happened. The minimum that is already in the requirements is the return of the borders of 1991 and reparations for the restoration of Ukraine.

[Vladimir80]

The minimum that is already in the requirements is the return of the 1991 borders and reparations for the restoration of Ukraine

further demands will only grow ... and we have no money for reparations ... as long as this is the Crimean war, it is necessary that it does not develop into a p.m.v.

[Foul skeptic]

and we have no money for reparations ...

Why is that? Just for a certain number of years ahead, the country will give a certain percentage of its income.

[Vladimir80]

Just for a certain number of years ahead, the country will give a certain percentage of its income

so what, money comes with money...there were gold reserves and swam away! so while there is an opportunity it is necessary to choose the lesser of the evils!

[man]

Why is that? Just for a certain number of years ahead, the country will give a certain percentage of its income.
Something, but our "elite" will not give back the money, it was not robbed for that!
But voice your proposal, you see, Prigogine will have shells

[Foul skeptic]

Something, but our "elite" will not give back the money

So the money of the elite is not the profit of the state. You do not confuse their wool with the state. Everything will go from the social sphere, the cost of medicine, education, science, culture, etc.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Vladimir80

in my opinion, it's time to give up - "all this" was muddied by overseas puppeteers,

Can you imagine the consequences of surrender?

[Vladimir80]

You imagine the consequences

One can only speculate, but how it will actually be unknown ... the main thing is that it be controlled (!), With the preservation of the "territory of the Russian Federation", and not the feudalization of the country.
ps Of course, no sanctions will be lifted, but sanctions are not something that should scare us - they are rather a blessing (sanctions scare financiers and traders), they will not return the gold reserves - they will rather demand to "sign a piece of paper" on the transfer of the border, there will be demands for the extradition of "war criminals" - Well, they demand Girkin for 10 years (most likely they can all remain restricted to travel abroad), and so on ...

[Foul skeptic]

the main thing is to be controlled (!), while maintaining the "territory of the Russian Federation"

How do you imagine it, if the "return to 1991" is the transfer under Ukrainian jurisdiction of five subjects that we have declared our own and consider "the territory of the Russian Federation."

[Vladimir80]

How do you imagine that

Yes, I can’t imagine anything ... I’m just trying to comprehend what is happening, to understand and accept the most likely development of events ... There are always more than one way out ...

[Galleon]

With their promises not to touch the top of the Nazis, border transport crossings and in other ways to please Western functionaries, our leaders, even at the cost of these follies in wartime, want to remain in a certain club of the rulers of Europe and the world. Despite open threats from opponents, despite the arrest warrant for this very leader from their "international" court, despite unprecedented sanctions and persecution in all areas, from sports and culture to shipping.
But it only gets worse and worse. And it’s impossible to stay in this tempting elite.

[man]

With your promises not to touch the top of the Nazis
I won’t say about the whole top, but when I remember the promise not to kill the main clown, given former Israeli prime minister (!), I have such expressions on my tongue that I simply do not dare to repeat them!

[rotmistr60]

You read the comments and you get the feeling that by mistake you did not land on a Russian site.

[your1970]

Quote: rotmistr60

You read the comments and you get the feeling that by mistake you did not land on a Russian site.

The most anecdotal thing is that these same people demand martial law and Stalin ... Not realizing that if something happens, they will be in the forefront "with departure after the end of hostilities" ....

[Vladimir80]

You read the comments and feel that by mistake you didn’t land on a Russian site

of course, usually in the "news" section all comments are like a carbon copy

[man]

You read the comments and you get the feeling that by mistake you did not land on a Russian site.
And you do not confuse the Russian site with Russian television

[Ezekiel 25-17]

If someone thinks that we will be allowed to win this war, I deliberately do not use the term "SVO", because our enemies are waging a war against us, playing according to the rules of the "Gallant Age", then he is mistaken. So it WILL NOT work. We will have to use all the possibilities that our aircraft have. I don't care what they say; they are Orcs, beasts and so on. We are talking about the existence of Russia as a state, and its ethnic group as a symbiosis of nations. With our "red lines" we only bring the Apocalypse closer for the whole Earth. A solution is needed, even if it is difficult and scary, but there is simply NO other!

[donavi49]

Why for existence? Because they said on TV? If anything, Krymskaya under Nicholas, also turned from a small victorious NWO into existence, and despite the loss of Sevastopol (returned by successful diplomacy) and the signing of peace with the conditions for the demilitarization of the Black Sea fleet (not only self-scuttled, but also a ban on construction) and other restrictions, Russia did not end, but rather began to work on the bugs. Or the RYAV with the Count of Polu-Sakhalin, that is, they gave away the territories of Russia and were able to suppress the revolution, for another 13 years the Tsar completely ruled for himself.

Well, you can recall the toughest example of a small victorious NWO in Livonia, for a year or two to let the governor overclock. Grozny's Russia, which was at the peak of its power, flew into such an ass that only the lazy did not bite off the desired piece for themselves and did not let their governors into dispersal already across Russia. The result is the Poles in the Kremlin, the collapse of the royal dynasty, the collapse of the state, the new legitimate tsar Romanov transfers and officially recognizes Smolensk, the territories of Chernihiv and Pskov regions for the Poles. And we know the result for the Poles in a couple of centuries.

[Graz]

it is necessary to answer, and not express concerns every time, they will continue to become impudent, but they would give the Gradov battery to Anglo-Saxon well-wishers and cover the Anglo military base with them, that's the only way!

[valley64]

It’s time to answer already: if earlier the Englishwoman was just shitting, now she is openly participating in hostilities against Russia

[Rosemary]

Quote: vadi64

It’s time to answer already: if earlier the Englishwoman was just shitting, now she is openly participating in hostilities against Russia

What has Britain done that it hasn't done before? Britannia already handed over to Ukraine (i.e. did not promise, but actually handed over):
- 5361 NLAW ATGMs (since February 2022);
- 200 Javelin anti-tank systems (since February 2022);
- MANPADS Starstreak (since March 2022);
- 120 armored vehicles of various models and purposes (from April 2022);
- 6 Stormer HVM armored personnel carriers equipped with Starstreak air defense systems (from April 2022);
- 35 armored personnel carriers FV103 Spartans (from April 2022);
- 600+ Brimstone surface-to-surface missiles (from May 2022);
- some "electronic warfare equipment" (May or June 2022);
- AGM-84 Harpoon anti-ship missiles (since June 2022);
- 6 MLRS M270 (since July 2022)
- 40 armored personnel carriers FV104 Samaritans (until October 2022);
- 46 armored personnel carriers M113 (until October 2022);
- Malloy Aeronautics T150 drones (until October 2022);
- Mamba anti-battery radar systems (until October 2022);
- Black Hornets drones (until November 2022);
- 100+ shells of various calibers (000);
- 3+ cartridges for small arms (000);
- 2600 anti-tank weapons (2022);
- 4,5 tons of explosives (2022);
- 20+ 155mm M109 howitzers (until January 2023);
- 3 Westland Sea Kings helicopters (since January 2023);
- 30 ACS AS-90 (until May 2023);
- Challenger armored recovery vehicles (March 2023):
- 14 Challenger 2 tanks (until May 2023);
- 1000 tank shells with depleted uranium (April 2023);
- Storm Shadows surface-to-surface missiles (from May 2023).
And that's not counting helmets, bulletproof vests, sleeping bags, insulated clothing, night vision goggles, etc., soldier training, ongoing financial assistance and intelligence sharing, and so on.

When the Englishwoman did all this, did she just crap?

[incognoto]

first you need to understand what they will eventually transmit .. so far these are just rumors .. and, as always, panic from the very first messages .. the biggest enemy is fear, and panic ..

[Vladimir80]

panic is the biggest enemy

Do you know how it occurs in quite stable people? this is when military correspondents write one thing (moreover, they write for two whole weeks), and in the capital there is a concert and festivities ... and even when a drone in the Kremlin explodes - and there is no reaction from the first persons ... or when they "grind" them, and planes fall at us (over our territory) ...

[Tagan]

Quote: Vladimir80

in my opinion, it's time to give up - "all this" was muddied by overseas puppeteers, the people (who else is capable of thinking) were convinced that we are not capable of anything serious ... we must retreat while there is still time, and there are still people (who speak Russian ) ...

Well Duc, hands uphill, white flag in the teeth and go! Or you can just turn yourself in to the nearest police station, not forgetting to grab crackers.

[Vladimir Nizhegorodsky]

Those who scream here and everywhere:
That everything is lost and everything is bad, then it is better to keep silent or surrender.
Let the crackers not forget.
Why whine then????

[Vladimir80]

That everything is lost and everything is bad, then let them be silent

of course, it’s better to continue to deceive yourself - so calmly, look at K.’s report at 13.00 and sleep on ...

[aleks700]

Well? Are we continuing or are we starting?

[Tagan]

Quote: Vladimir Nizhny Novgorod

Those who scream here and everywhere:
That everything is lost and everything is bad, then it is better to keep silent or surrender.
Let the crackers not forget.
Why whine then????

Some under the guise of whiners work out soldering. Nobody canceled the information war. After all, victory is forged in the rear, including. But the fact is that a whiner on the payroll and just a whiner are essentially working out the same order of the enemy. That is why these characters in wartime were to be shot.

[Tagan]

Quote: Vladimir80

That everything is lost and everything is bad, then let them be silent

of course, it’s better to continue to deceive yourself - so calmly, look at K.’s report at 13.00 and sleep on ...

Do you think it is much more appropriate to call for surrender? Are you really scribbling from Russia? After all, what you are broadcasting is an ordinary undisguised betrayal. But you call it "the ability to think."

[Vladimir80]

Do you think that it is much more appropriate to call for surrender

I don’t call for surrender (!) And give something to someone (!), I also want to win in my own, I just wrote that losing in the end and getting minus a million or two indigenous citizens is much worse than admitting that "did not calculate the forces" and look for another way!
ps betrayal is saying one thing and doing the opposite

[Tagan]

Quote: Vladimir80

I don’t call for surrender (!) And give something to someone (!), I also want to win in my own, I just wrote that losing in the end and getting minus a million or two indigenous citizens is much worse than admitting that "did not calculate the forces" and look for another way!
ps betrayal is saying one thing and doing the opposite

So they didn't find another way. And the vision of it is directly opposite to the opposing sides. That is why the situation has taken such a turn. In addition, the West does not deny that it was trying to gain time. Those. if we had not started, they would have started with the hands of non-brothers acting as proxies. So there is no other way.
The guys at the front, for example, are confident in our victory. This is despite the fact that, unlike us, they take risks and give disproportionately more strength. Every citizen of Russia is obliged to contribute to the approach of OUR common victory and not to engage in alarmism. See how ordinary people in the provinces act. They put together groups and everyone who can helps in any way. A simple example from a village near me. People got organized. Whoever brings a bag of potatoes, cork, someone bakes bread himself. Who can not, please jointly weave camouflage nets. They collect everything to the heap and hand it over to the soldiers. They do not engage in demagogy and do not look for extremes, but do a common cause. But from us, until relatively recently, hostilities were carried out literally a few tens of kilometers away. Perhaps that is why people are more clearly aware of the danger of what is happening.
You don't have to wait for something ready.

[Tagan]

Quote: mann

You read the comments and you get the feeling that by mistake you did not land on a Russian site.
And you do not confuse the Russian site with Russian television

The site may be Russian. Only now, not all Russians are on it.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Peskov again in a sexy whisper will declare that this will not change the situation at the front?

[BorzRio]

The more long-range weapons are supplied to Ukraine, the more attacks will be on the rear - headquarters, PPD, warehouses, bases, airfields, bridges. This means that it will be necessary to push it much further, disrupting logistics and increasing the time of supply, response and support. As well as increasing the number of missile defense and air defense. The overload for the military-industrial complex is huge. And all this will affect the combat effectiveness of the already not the most combat-ready troops for the worse. Do the General Staff and the Kremlin understand this? Thinking? When will they stop chewing snot and telling us nonsense about the brotherly people and humanity?! When will they seriously beat everything that is on everything that is in Ukraine? It seems that the country's leadership is in a panic and confusion. At least the president is silent again, as during the "regrouping" from near Izyum and Kharkov. Apparently it is not in vain that the military correspondents are trumpeting the necessary new mobilization.

[IL-27]

Vooot, I’m saying, as an edification to others, send an island to the bottom of the sea!))) Moreover, they themselves are asking for this more and more insistently.))
The only thing is that India is a pity - they will not return the loot.)))