Chess on the Far Eastern board: Putin’s Shah to Minister Ishaev

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The problem of the development of the Far East does not cease to excite the minds of the Russian authorities. Some thoughts are born, others die suddenly, and still others are born stillborn. It would seem that you just need to screen out the mental slag, separate, as they say, the wheat from the chaff and start work, rolling up the sleeves. However, while it is the process of separating the grains from the chaff and the flies from the cutlets, it looks the most difficult, because with all the seeming diversity of ideas about how to make paradise from the Far East, this diversity will look like only a scattered kaleidoscopic picture.

There are, of course, progress. It would be foolish to ignore them, but sometimes it seems that in our country there is a very solid interested force, which its main goal is to see the dissolution of positive work in the swamps of bureaucracy and corruption worthlessness. Previously, it had a well-defined name and was called sabotage or outright sabotage. Today, such words are preferred to be replaced by more politically correct ones, but the real state of affairs hardly changes due to such political correctness.

Not so long ago, the problem of the development of the Far East forced Vladimir Putin to respond in rather harsh tones to the activities of the new ministry for the Russian Government - the Ministry for the Development of the Far East, headed by Viktor Ishaev. When Viktor Ivanovich was approved for a ministerial post, they were guided not only by his vast experience in terms of work in the Far East region, but also by the level of trust on the part of the local population. Ishaev headed the Khabarovsk Territory for 18 years, in 2009 he received the post of Plenipotentiary Representative of the President of the Russian Federation in the Far Eastern Federal District, and since May of this year he has been the Minister for the Development of the Far East. The track record of Viktor Ishaev's work in the region gave certain hopes related to the fact that this person can really actively begin to solve the problems that have accumulated over the years. However, a miracle has not yet happened, and the proverb that there is no warrior alone in the field could fully characterize the activities of both Ishaev himself and the ministry he heads. But the problem is that there seem to be too many warriors, and they all wear different uniforms and adhere to different charters ...

The fact is that the Ministry of Eastern Development has not conducted any truly intelligible actions for the development of the Far Eastern part of Russia, and if it did, then such an action was conceived, sprayed and mixed with the sticky quagmire of the bureaucracy that returns even the best undertaking to its original positions and minimizing efficiency.

It is this state of affairs that caused certain questions from the president. Putin expressed a clear bewilderment over why the Government has not yet proposed a program for the development of the Far East and Transbaikalia, although this was discussed in the middle of summer. The president expressed his bewilderment by delaying the preparation of the program during the State Council held on the Far Eastern region, its demographic and socio-economic problems. Putin made it very clear that for the time being, the instructions for preparing a regional development program were simply ignored. And such a “message” at the State Council was addressed, among other things, to Viktor Ishaev.

In response to the presidential criticism, Ishayev said that all the questions on delaying the preparation of the program are related to the fact that they received real authority to prepare it in the Ministry of Eastern Development only in mid-November, and it’s not possible to prepare such a serious document in a couple of weeks. In addition, the minister announced that corruption networks and the absence of a legislative base prevent him from working ...

If you believe Minister Ishaev, then it is completely incomprehensible why the very powers to prepare the draft program for the development of the Far East were transferred to the Ministry of Eastern Development only in November, while the ministry itself began work in May. It turns out that about six months in this segment of the Government were doing work that can be called improvisational ... Well, in fact: there are no plans, there are no programs, there are no authorities, but there are not those, but then there is the ministry itself, which means you need to do something, to justify their existence.

Assuming that it was so, the question arises: why did President Putin’s instructions have to be executed as early as July 2012 of the year, but are not executed until now. After all, even if the relevant ministry did not have the authority to conduct relevant management activities, then who was involved in preparing the program? .. Most likely, there was a classic conflict of separation of powers, which boils down to the famous Russian proverb about seven nannies and their one-eyed child ...

In other words, there are a lot of ministries that in one way or another deal with the Far Eastern problems (Ministry of Regional Development, Ministry of East Development, Ministry of Labor, and others), and therefore it is extremely difficult to single out a single person in charge. It turns out that Vladimir Putin asks a person who, by definition, was supposed to deal with the creation of a balanced program, but this person (Minister Ishayev) said that he, in fact, was not allowed to show his abilities by mid-November. Then immediately a series of other questions: who did not give? Who pulled the blanket over himself? And if others were blanking, then where is the program they created? ..

In general, there is a feeling that if it were not for the next meeting of the State Council, then the Government of the Russian Federation would have long turned the hands on each other, postponing the decision of such an urgent issue as the development of the Far East.

Now, as has often happened, the president had to intervene directly, and demand from a strictly defined person, namely Minister Viktor Ishayev, specific actions to prepare the program. To this end, Putin allocates more than enough time - until the end of the first quarter of 2013, and announces that he is waiting for concrete proposals. As they say, better late than never ...

On his own behalf, Vladimir Putin proposes the idea of ​​a certain tax amnesty for businessmen who are going or have already gathered to invest in the economy of Transbaikalia and the Far East. The essence of the proposal is that within a decade not to collect the federal part of the income tax for those representatives of the business community who decide to invest more than half a billion rubles in enterprises of the region.

Economists consider such a proposal by the president to be very timely, but not sufficient. After all, the Far East borders on China, and therefore enterprises will have to compete in many respects precisely with Chinese, as is customary to say, partners. Today, even with the tax benefits outlined by Putin, this is unlikely to work out. We will have to apply much more radical measures in order to activate the production process in the Far East. After all, preferences exclusively to large businesses will not always contribute to an increase in labor activity on the part of ordinary people in the region. And not every large industrialist will be ready to use the tax benefits obtained to open new highly efficient jobs. It will be much easier for him (a major industrialist) to restrict himself to a raw material path and without much hesitation to overtake the extracted wealth into China, South Korea or Japan. And then from there products will come to Russia, created on the basis of Russian raw materials, but at completely different prices. The vicious circle that takes place now.

It turns out that for the development of the Far East this vicious circle will have to be cut. But this, apparently, is the main difficulty. Indeed, it is one thing to attract money bags for their even more self-filling, and it is quite another thing to attract workers, engineers, scientists, teachers, and medical personnel. All these people are clearly not impressed with the fact that the government is making tax concessions to large investors. “What do we need?” They will say, and such complaints are clearly not without foundation.

That is why tax breaks should concern not only multimillionaire investors, but also those who will conduct direct work on the development of the Far East and Transbaikalia. To differentiate here: to one, government benefits, to others, the hope of a kindly gifted with benefits to private owners with big money — to put it mildly, is not quite productive.

Viktor Ishayev clearly will have to offer solutions to this problem. The main thing is that his department should not have its own “Yelkin-Vasiliev”, which the very concept of “regional development” can understand only in terms of developing its own business programs and bank accounts in the Far East. And also: let Ishayev and the whole ministry headed by him have enough powers this time ...
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  1. Rascopov
    +7
    5 December 2012 08: 58
    Isaev’s confusion is not surprising: for many years they did not pay attention to the Far East, and now they suddenly remembered that he is!
    1. sv-sakh
      +14
      5 December 2012 09: 04
      Ishaev’s resignation would be, but under investigation ... Things are going wrong in the whole region. And the last decade, it has become worse than in the 90s.
      But there is a way out - Create a free economic zone in the Far East and stop paying tribute to the Moscow Principality, at least five years.
      Only Sakhalin oil and gas are worth what, but the money goes to Sofiyskaya embankment and further into the pockets and locally. And how many more such schemes ??? Sea of ​​Okhotsk fish, coal, forest, gold. Yes, so many resources!
      Every year, oil and gas leaves Sakhalin, and the cost of the annual local budget is tens of times higher.
      And the cost of fuel for the population is growing at an appalling pace. And the money in the budget is constantly not enough for anything.
      Fish in Sakhalin stores, caught and processed at Sakhalin enterprises, is more expensive in place than in Moscow - is this normal? AS?!
      Meanwhile, the harvesting of biological resources is carried out in a barbaric amount, violating all reasonable volumes and every year the catch is reduced and reduced .... Sadly ...
      This year, it got to the point that people were practically not given licenses for licensed fishing, due to the lack of fish in river mouths, but the fishermen reported catch records.
      Far East is a raw materials appendage, and until this status changes, the slavish position of the inhabitants will not change and the situation will remain the same.
      1. +8
        5 December 2012 09: 25
        Quote: sv-sakh

        Ishaev’s resignation would be, but under investigation.

        What region are you from?
        Quote: sv-sakh
        But there is a way out - Create a free economic zone in the Far East and stop paying tribute to the Moscow Principality, at least five years

        The first step to the collapse of the country, minus you.
        Quote: sv-sakh
        Fish in Sakhalin stores, caught and processed at Sakhalin enterprises, is more expensive in place than in Moscow - is this normal? AS?!

        Ishaev should come to your store and say that they would lower prices? Where are your local authorities and yourself?
        Quote: sv-sakh
        Meanwhile, the harvesting of biological resources is carried out in a barbaric amount, violating all reasonable volumes and every year the catch is reduced and reduced .... Sadly.

        Decreased due to new quotas. And not the lack of fish. Although there are enough poachers, but many times less than before.
        Quote: sv-sakh
        DV - raw materials appendage,

        not only DV.
        1. sv-sakh
          +4
          5 December 2012 09: 39
          Do not break up and suck less - reduce appetites, do not feed subsidies and leave on self-sufficiency.
          Ishaev comes every half a year, and the FAS makes decisions for a tick.

          The Chechens are building castles at the expense of the country, and the Far East sucks their legs - rightly?
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          not only DV.
          When was the last time you were here ?? O_o
          1. +15
            5 December 2012 09: 54
            Quote: sv-sakh
            The Chechens are building castles at the expense of the country, and the Far East sucks their legs - rightly?

            Well, what do you want if the national minorities have more authority for our government than the Russian people.
            Quote: sv-sakh
            Do not break up and suck less - reduce appetites, do not feed subsidies and leave on self-sufficiency.

            Even then the loot will go into the pockets of those who push fish at you in the shops and others like them. More money will be left, more will be stolen and that's it. The whole system needs to be changed.
            1. sv-sakh
              +3
              5 December 2012 10: 54
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Even then the loot will go into the pockets of those who you

              And in Moscow, this loot goes exclusively to the needs of poor old women and to the joy and peace of the world, huh ...
              It is clear, of course, that they will steal, but then the region will receive at least something from what they have, and not just always look for funds for development and throw up their hands to the sides with the words "What to do .. Crisis .."

              So far, the theft of Moscow from our own people is justified here, and we are losing the country ...
            2. nutmeg
              0
              5 December 2012 20: 29
              I don’t understand ... so much land around, give 6 acres, a loan at normal interest rates and millions will come. A third of Eastern Europe is guaranteed.

              I don’t understand ... so much land around, give 6 acres, a loan at normal interest rates and millions will come. A third of Eastern Europe is guaranteed.
              1. vozn_ser
                0
                5 December 2012 21: 06
                Here near London, and give a fellow countryman, at least 1x2 for his American smaller brothers. There, I suppose, under the yoke of blacks they want to their historical homeland.
                1. nutmeg
                  0
                  5 December 2012 21: 53
                  for you, at least 6 x6 is not a pity, only England is not Siberia, the land itself is not enough
        2. Slayer
          +3
          5 December 2012 10: 13
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The first step to the collapse of the country, minus you.

          By your logic, while Moscow sucks all the juices from the country, the country will be holistic, as soon as the regions start to leave something to themselves, then everything will collapse?
          1. +6
            5 December 2012 10: 16
            Quote: Slayer
            By your logic, while Moscow sucks all the juices from the country,

            This is not my logic, the slogan enough to feed Moscow will do its job, further corrupt politicians will yell for independence.
            1. Slayer
              -4
              5 December 2012 10: 38
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              This is not my logic, the slogan enough to feed Moscow will do its job, further corrupt politicians will yell for independence.

              Yes, no one will let you separate, this is from the science fiction department)))) But you can and should fight for autonomy, say the Siberian Autonomous Okrug, the Far East, etc. And we can already form our own budget, and what’s left can be given to Moscow, so to speak, in excess, and as long as Moscow forms our budget, we will live in slavery
              1. +7
                5 December 2012 10: 49
                Quote: Slayer
                )) But it’s possible and necessary to fight for autonomy, let’s say

                This was already in 91, it is only necessary to start, and it’s very simple to bungle people’s brains with promises about bright prospects and those who wish will catch up.
                Quote: Slayer
                and as long as Moscow will form a budget for us, we will live in slavery

                I don’t live in slavery, you are putting everything in a heap, you need to distinguish the economic component from the political one, if you mix them, there will be a split.
                1. Slayer
                  -3
                  5 December 2012 10: 56
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  This was already in 91, it is only necessary to start, and it’s very simple to bungle people’s brains with promises about bright prospects and those who wish will catch up.

                  Then the Americans tried, right now, if everything is done correctly, then everything will be fine, even if the Kremlin itself chooses the heads of districts and sets them, but we will already have our own laws, and we will have our own budget. Autonomy under the Constitution of the Russian Federation has the right to independently conclude economic transactions with other countries, the development paths for the regions will be many times more
                  1. +2
                    5 December 2012 11: 01
                    Quote: Slayer
                    Then the Americans tried

                    But we only realized this after many years, and then much was seen quite differently. Always and now those who will put personal gain over the interests of the people will be offended.
                    Quote: Slayer
                    right now if everything is done correctly

                    Judging from how we are doing, everything will turn out again to the top of jo ... hi
                    1. Slayer
                      0
                      5 December 2012 11: 08
                      Alexander, the fact is that such an attitude of the Kremlin towards the regions just leads to a split in the country, people's patience is also not rubber, when it bursts, people get tired of begging in the richest regions of the planet, and then there will definitely be a big bang. So the Kremlin needs to change its attitude towards its "raw material ancestors" now
                      1. mogus
                        0
                        5 December 2012 14: 56
                        I agree. raw material tax is exported to the federal budget.
              2. hot
                hot
                +2
                6 December 2012 09: 51
                Regional funds do not go to the maintenance of Moscow but to the maintenance of the country. Moscow feed at the expense of its taxes. If all regions begin to give money to the country as much as they see fit, then the underdeveloped regions will bend down altogether. And the army and various programs such as space, etc. how to finance? We’ll take someone who’s not sorry?
            2. SASCHAmIXEEW
              +1
              5 December 2012 10: 44
              Well, and the one who will yell in Turma for ... will find for what! But this will not happen, these bitches from the feeder do not tear them easier to kill!
            3. bykov
              -5
              5 December 2012 13: 37
              To save Russia, you need to burn Moscow .....
            4. +4
              5 December 2012 21: 23
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              This is not my logic, the slogan enough to feed Moscow will do its job, further corrupt politicians will yell for independence.


              1. 2010 census, which was accompanied by a major PR campaign urging residents of Siberia to record their nationality as “Siberian” and this campaign gave some results
              2. Next, on April 24, 2011, a "comic" rally was held in Novosibirsk “Stop paying tribute to Moscow!”.
              This rally was agreed by the Novosibirsk authorities
              3. Then, in the same October 22, 2011 Novosibirsk, as part of the “Stop feeding the Caucasus” campaign, a full-fledged and official rally “Stop feeding Moscow” was held.
              This rally was agreed by the Novosibirsk authorities.
              4. Next, PR began, for example, on November 4, the “Siberian Society” and “OOD Solidarity” hold a conference in Novosibirsk on the topic: “Russia and Siberia, development paths, do you have any solutions to the issues that have arisen”, to which we invited Bulk
              5. If someone thinks that regional separatism concerns only Siberia, then he is deeply mistaken, the topic of separation from Moscow (read Russia) is already warming up even in Belgorod - on May 22, 2011, the picket “Stop feeding Moscow” was held in Belgorod.
              This meeting was agreed by the authorities of Belgorod.
              6. Pseudo-nationalists have long been stretching the topic of Siberian separatism. For example, back in 2007, the article “Russia and Siberia: Union or Divorce?” Was published in the key pseudo-nationalist information resource “APN”, which states that "Siberia is not Russia"

              “If Canada is divisible, then Quebec is also divisible” (c) - If Russia is divisible, then Siberia is also divisible.

              All this direct road leads to the collapse of the Russian people into tribes - Siberians, Pomors, Cossacks, Ingermanlanders, etc.
              DIVIDE AND RULE!
              All anti-Moscow (actually anti-Russian) rallies are held by people who position themselves as “Russian nationalists” and act as part of the “Stop feeding the Caucasus” campaign.
              It all starts with the most acute “anti-Caucasian” topic, then the energy collected in this way is transferred to the second most acute topic - “anti-Moscow”, after which inter-regional showdowns will begin.
              As a result, the main supporters of the collapse of Russia are "Russian nationalists". And they greet and PR them colleagues from the Kavkaz CenterTogether they do one thing, each from its flank.
              They do not want to put the "presumptuous Caucasus" in its place, restore order, defeat the "enemy".
              Instead, the pseudo-nationalists impose on the indifferent Russian guys defeatist swine psychology proposing to fix (!) by them the invented “defeat” under the pretext that the Caucasians “eat them up”.
              But, the logic “Stop feeding ...” cannot be limited to the North Caucasus alone, since the main topic is “feeding”, then the question of “feeding the snickering” of Moscow cannot but arise followed by inter-regional showdowns.
              1. Slayer
                0
                5 December 2012 22: 40
                Ascetic, I’m sorry, it’s not for you not to talk about life in Siberia, you probably can’t even imagine how it is possible to raise a child when a man receives 15-18t.r per month, and his wife 8t.r. You don’t understand this, because you didn’t encounter this in the suburbs, and we would have reconciled ourselves if our land was poor, but we live in Siberia on the richest territory of the whole planet !!!!, we are literally we walk on gold, and we do not have enough money to feed an elementary child !!!! And honestly, when the federals have such an attitude towards you, it’s not up to patriotism, sometimes you want to send this whole country far and far away, but for now some kind of love in the soul stops no matter how our grandfathers fought and died for this country, but when your feet are constantly being wiped, will this love last?
                1. +2
                  6 December 2012 00: 53
                  Quote: Slayer
                  Ascetic, I’m sorry, it’s not for you not to talk about life in Siberia, you probably can’t even imagine how it is possible to raise a child when a man receives 15-18t.r per month, and his wife 8t.r.


                  Daughter and son-in-law live and work in Novosibirsk. I myself constantly fly there on business trips and also to Krasnoyarsk and Uglegorsk. By the way, he was born in Krasnoyarsk.
                  The question is not where and who lives better or worse, but that certain circles seek to use these contradictions in their plans to divide Russia and not only Russia but also its peoples into Siberians, Cossacks, Muscovites, etc. Do not interfere with everything in one pile. You talk about Thomas and you about Yerema. And as for Moscow, the most far-sighted Muscovites who have the opportunity and do not keep anything here leave this city as traders and managers with their service staff. Or buy land in the surrounding areas for the future. I’m not talking about the moneybags from Rublevka, who are buying everything up in the regions, but about ordinary people, according to some reports, over the past five years, about 300 thousand. Muscovites left the capital (you will not read about it anywhere in the press or on the Internet). Think about these numbers, these are roughly cities such as Vladimir, Tambov or Oryol. We must live here and see to understand this. Not a single Russian child will soon remain in schools and kindergartens in Moscow. The collapse of Russia as a single state always began with the collapse of Moscow, the heart of the people. And all the Western rot and infection have always come from St. Petersburg since the time of Peter the Great. There will be no Moscow and there will be no Russia, including Siberia with the Far East.
          2. hot
            hot
            0
            6 December 2012 09: 46
            It is necessary to register their enterprises in the region where they are located and not in Moscow, then the tax will not go to Moscow but will remain in place.
            1. Slayer
              0
              6 December 2012 12: 35
              Quote: hot
              It is necessary to register their enterprises in the region where they are located and not in Moscow, then the tax will not go to Moscow but will remain in place.

              Moscow will not allow this, Khlaponin was delivered to the Krasnoyarsk Territory just to give all the enterprises to Moscow, he completed his work 100%, with him all the large enterprises belonging to Krasnoyarsk were transferred to Moscow, as soon as he completed his task, he quickly dumped
        3. 0
          5 December 2012 14: 48
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The first step to the collapse of the country, minus you.
          Yes, people already agree with the Chinese, you can at least minus the divide, but people don’t change from this; they say while Moscow lived like we did, they went out into the streets and fought with cops like money, they poured everything where working solidarity went from without starting and thought such
          1. dusha233
            +1
            5 December 2012 16: 45
            DO NOT compose anyone who does not wish for anyone, neither for the Chinese nor for the Nanai-obviously this is your fiction .... wassat
            1. Slayer
              -3
              5 December 2012 19: 03
              Quote: dusha233
              Do not compose anyone who does not wish for anyone, neither for the Chinese nor for the Nanai-obviously this is your fiction ..

              Don’t tell me, I talked a lot with someone about work, at different factories, in different regions of Siberia, everywhere unanimously, men said how tired they were of Moscow and thought, if the Chinese or the Japanese came here, they would have made candy in 10 years, etc. d. So the people are really tired of being an appendage, in Moscow, as soon as the standard of living begins to fall, everyone takes to the streets, Siberia, the Far East is still suffering, although if Moscow had such a level of life, there would have been a revolution
      2. dusha233
        +1
        5 December 2012 16: 41
        Full nonsense from the lord
        sv-sakh! You can immediately see a person who has never been to the Far East!
      3. 0
        6 December 2012 06: 00
        Sv-sakh

        Speaking of a tribute to the Principality of Moscow, you voice the widespread philistine views. But, they are erroneous. There is not a single donor entity throughout the Far East. Even Sakhalin is subsidized. Least of all in the Far East, based on subsidies per inhabitant, but nonetheless.
    2. +3
      5 December 2012 09: 26
      Quote:.
      in our country there is a very solid interested force,


      Also me a Newton bin ........
    3. nutmeg
      0
      5 December 2012 20: 25
      I do not understand ..... so much land around, give 6 acres each, a loan to build a frame 'house on the prairie' and millions will go, maybe not half of Eastern Europe, but a third will definitely come. Here is your answer to China.

      I do not understand ..... so much land around, give 6 acres each, a loan to build a frame 'house on the prairie' and millions will go, maybe not half of Eastern Europe, but a third will definitely come. Here is your answer to China.
    4. -1
      6 December 2012 07: 25
      Quote: Rascopov
      Ishaev’s confusion is not surprising: for many years they did not pay attention to the Far East, and now they suddenly remembered that he was


      Ishayev may be right in his objections, but still a huge bunch of questions remain. including him. He himself is in power, as can be seen from the article, for a long time - for 18 years the governor was the Khabarovsk Territory. All this time he put forward ideas about the development of the Far East - I myself listened to his speeches many times. Moreover, he has been heading the relevant ministry for half a year. even if for some reason he didn’t have any powers that his ministry should have by definition (which is doubtful in itself), in any case, nothing prevented him from collecting all his previously voiced ideas (thanks by which he was appointed to the post) and for half a year to outline at least a draft plan based on them. This would make it possible, in the event of a question from the side of the GDP regarding the program, to at least present the results of one's mental work. But actually it's time Putin stop mowing under the idiot and ask himself a simple question: how much money is pumped out of the Far East and how much is allocated by the government to his needs. It just needs to be a complete nerd. to wait for milk from a cow, which is given out to blood .. and that's exactly what they are doing now with the Far East - the government simply robs him and then wonders with the expression of oligophren on his face - why is this not a development ??..and Putin and Medvedev also had a hand in this situation .. so if anyone is to be tried, then start with them ... and if they don’t have enough mind to understand how to develop the Far East, let them turn to the experience of the Communists .. they had enough intelligence to understand that in reality the region is not developed by money, but by people .. and in order to keep and secure people in any territory, including the Far East, they need to be provided with free housing and decent work, because there are no other incentives for people and never will be ...
      1. 0
        6 December 2012 08: 50
        Krilion

        ... it’s time for Putin to stop mowing under the idiot and ask himself simple question: how much money is pumped out of the Far East and how much is allocatedI am the government for his needs ...

        This question has long been answered. There are a dozen donor regions throughout Russia. Not a single territory of the Far East belongs to them.
        Here is more detailed: http://www.aif.ru/money/article/47340
        1. 0
          7 December 2012 03: 05
          Quote: BigRiver
          This question has long been answered. There are a dozen donor regions throughout Russia. Not a single territory of the Far East belongs to them. For more details: http://www.aif.ru/money/article/47340


          it’s very funny ... in this case, I’m just wondering where the income from the production of that huge amount of oil, gas, timber, etc. that goes on the same Sakhalin ... and although the population on the island is about 700, goes to ruin , with the exception of the regional center, everywhere is scary ....
      2. dusha233
        0
        7 December 2012 06: 55
        Krilion, you are a friend - you simply looked at the usual nonsense. Ishaev became governor in 1999 and ceased to be in 2009, and where did 18 years of governorship come from? When he was governed, he did a lot himself, I personally see this while living in Khabarovsk!
  2. Lech e-mine
    +6
    5 December 2012 09: 03
    ISHAEV will not solve this problem.
    It is necessary to put the FAR EAST well, sooo big money so that there was a tangible return (trillion rubles)
    Naturally, the article outlined only a small part of the problems of this region.
    1. sv-sakh
      +5
      5 December 2012 09: 11
      No need to invest, it is necessary not to take at least.
      1. 0
        5 December 2012 10: 17
        sv-sakh:
        Move the capital, for example, to Yekaterinburg, and the mess with corruption schemes will stop! In other countries, it helped in due time ...
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          5 December 2012 10: 49
          This is a good idea, Peter was the capital and during the war the government was not in Moscow, and nothing happened!
    2. +6
      5 December 2012 09: 18
      There are a lot of problems and they need to be solved comprehensively .... To be honest, it is perplexing why Putin should interfere in the work of the government every time, then the regional ministry, and now? Why is there a LADY sitting there? Sits in pants and broadcasts something with a serious look? In my opinion, it should be like this: the president gives instructions, the government under the leadership of the prime minister executes (including the delineation of powers), if it seems to the minister that within the current framework he cannot fulfill the instructions, he should shout about it, and not wait when from him ask .... and then say "I'm not guilty ..." What a mess? Maybe it's time to change the prime minister, if he can only broadcast? Maybe it's time to ask strictly for failure to fulfill their duties, and not just shake the air ...

      As for development, there is nothing new: you need to build roads, healthcare, infrastructure, housing (provide at discounted prices), etc. Well, of course, there should be transport accessibility, so that a person can freely and at affordable prices travel, for example, to central Russia ....
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +2
        5 December 2012 10: 58
        From the beginning of all bribe takers to shoot with confiscation! Everyone who takes more than 50tyr, and the rest for life, and also with a confiscated, and then a fine (as for drunk) for the Bear for himself, did it come up with something? Or accomplices otmazyvatsya?
    3. +8
      5 December 2012 09: 31
      Quote: Leha e-mine
      ISHAEV will not solve this problem.

      Not only Ishaev, but also businessmen on whom, as always, Putin trusts. The problem can only be solved by the state itself, it must build enterprises and housing. A businessman will build, suppose an enterprise, even suppose people come from other regions, and where to live, in a mortgage in an eternal debt slavery. First of all, the state should attract people there, young families should be given housing free of charge, provided that a person has worked a certain number of years. The government will again follow a dead-end path in advance "we will create an atmosphere for investment" and will wait for investments instead of to build the state, but there is no money, and it’s troublesome, they say, a private trader will do everything. So I think every time such questions arise, everything rests on the system created in the country. There will be a failure again, as has happened more than once with their programs.
      1. +2
        5 December 2012 09: 47
        Quote: baltika-18
        First of all, the state should attract people there, give free housing to young families


        About housing

        04.12.12/100/XNUMX: Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation: XNUMX thousand military personnel in Russia are waiting for their housing,

        “It’s strange enough that every year we heard that the housing problem for the military has been resolved, but, according to the Accounts Chamber, to date, 100 thousand military personnel are again without housing. We need to understand, ”said Stepashin.

        \
        The husband was held captive in Germany during the years of World War II. Born in 1923. "Does he have the right to receive payments or provide housing as a prisoner of a concentration camp?"

        Vadim DROZHENKO, 1st Deputy Chairman of the Regional Social Security Committee, answers: “Federal Law No. 5-ФЗ dated January 12, 1995“ On Veterans ”and Decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 714 dated May 7, 2008“ On Providing Housing for Veterans of the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945 »The right to provide housing at the expense of the federal budget of disabled people and participants in the Great Patriotic War, as well as family members of the deceased (deceased) disabled people and participants in the Great Patriotic War, recognized in the established order to improve housing conditions, was determined. The prisoners of fascist concentration camps are not affected by the specified legal acts. ”


        The accumulated problem of major repairs in apartment buildings can be solved by 2035,
    4. +1
      5 December 2012 09: 31
      Quote: Leha e-mine
      Naturally, the article outlined only a small part of the problems of this region.


      In my opinion, China is still a smut, and Ishaev believes that the Russian Far East is not dependent on China, strange, we sell China oil, gas, coal, metals, bioresources, timber. We buy from them - textiles, machines, mechanisms. And "we get" in addition to the dirty Cupid where they drain production waste
      1. +5
        5 December 2012 09: 57
        Quote: Vadivak
        In my opinion, China is still a pain in the neck, and Ishaev believes that the Russian Far East is not dependent on China, strange, we are selling oil, gas, coal, metals, bioresources, and timber to China.

        No, Vadim, he doesn’t think so, he raised the question of why we sell electricity to China cheaper than to our own citizens, but they didn’t use it. Tariffs continue to grow, and with them everything else.
        1. +3
          5 December 2012 10: 13
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          he doesn’t think so, he raised the question


          Well then, it’s clear that they’ll make a clown out of him and declare him incompetent
      2. 0
        6 December 2012 08: 56
        Vadivak
        ... Ishaev believes that the Russian Far East is not dependent on China, it is strange, we sell oil, gas, coal, metals, biological resources, timber to China. We buy from them - textiles, machines, mechanisms. And "we get" in addition to the dirty Cupid where they drain production waste ...

        Yes, China is a market for Far East. And we are for them. But, this is better than nothing. Otherwise, the territory would have died out altogether.
        By the way, Cupid over the past 5-6 years has become much cleaner in chemistry. This is due to the closure by the Chinese of a number of plants on the Sungari River.
    5. 0
      5 December 2012 12: 07
      As long as corruption flourishes in the country, it is difficult to count on serious improvements even if sooooo big money is sent. And not only in the Far East.
    6. iSpoiler
      0
      5 December 2012 13: 43
      You comrade read the book "Vladivostok 3000" by the notorious Ilya Lagutenko - the soloist of "Mumiy Troll", by the way, he is an ardent defender of the Far East, you will understand the whole situation .. He correctly said sv-sakh - no investments are needed, stop robbing ... !!! Sometimes thoughts come to me myself - if only this Moscow should be nafig - everything will work out right away, we'll put things in order here ... we have something, what and with whom to earn ...
      I’ve been living in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky for 26 years, I can clearly see why ..
    7. +1
      5 December 2012 14: 02
      First of all, in my opinion, it is necessary to organize tight control over the spending of funds. Well, check out someone for compliance with the position with the ensuing consequences. You can invest a lot, but if everyone steals, what is the use of investing?
    8. 0
      6 December 2012 07: 33
      Quote: Leha e-mine
      It is necessary to put the FAR EAST well, sooo big money so that there was a tangible return (trillion rubles)


      you can invest at least 100500 trillion, but if there are no people (population), then this will not help development ... now people simply have no reason to live in such a remote region with poor climatic conditions ... therefore everyone leaves for the first opportunity the European part of Russia ... and if there is an outflow of the population * of workers), then degradation is simply inevitable, it is just a matter of time ... we are already observing the results ...
  3. +3
    5 December 2012 09: 07
    While they will manage the Far East sitting and wiping their pants in Moscow, nothing will come of it, otherwise they will invest a ruble, and it’s 10 kopecks
  4. +3
    5 December 2012 09: 14
    Putin proposes not to levy the federal part of the income tax ... For your information: the income tax is 20% (18% to the local budget, 2% to the federal) ... He calls this tax benefits? Are ordinary employees not entitled to benefits? So we will develop the Far East for another 300 years and will never develop it! It is necessary to provide more substantial tax benefits for enterprises, real benefits for the population moving from other regions. It would not be superfluous to allocate land for the construction of a personal economy and "lifting" funds for its construction! And do not forget about the infrastructure that the state should develop!
  5. +1
    5 December 2012 09: 24
    As said, seven nannies ... So now we have a lot of ministers, advisers, plenipotentiaries, administration workers, provincial servants and others. But there is no one responsible for affairs. Ishaev when agreed to this position, that , didn’t know that he would not pull in the current situation? Why didn’t he immediately determine the circle of his responsibility and his authority? You can add to the proverb at the beginning of the text only about fish that rots from the head
  6. +4
    5 December 2012 09: 25
    "... Well, in fact: there are no plans, no programs, no powers, but there is the ministry itself ..." Here the president (mentioned in the article several times) is perplexed ... Hmm ... But here I am, not even surprised.
    A lot of times already on the site, a LOT of measures were proposed on the development problems of any region. True, it was proposed by us, ants, once again there is no desire to write ...
    "It's one thing - to attract money bags for even more self-filling, and it is quite another matter to attract workers, engineers, scientists, teachers, doctors. All these people are clearly not impressed by the fact that the state makes tax concessions to large investors. "What is it to us?" - they will say, and such claims are clearly not without foundation. " Absolutely correct thought, with one BUT - this is when the state is SOCIALLY-ORIENTED.

    And in short, what they left (read - they lost it under the USSR), they are trying to return to something positive. Only now ... they do not get a "STONE FLOWER", no matter how hard you push ...

    "Wondering ..."he ... Yes, many already OHHU ... DO from what is happening.
  7. +4
    5 December 2012 09: 37
    The Far East needs a large city. In the order of 3-4 mil. Only then can the region be saved. Kazakhstan managed to build such a beautiful city like Astana! Why don’t we start! Why build Moscow?! Transfer several ministries there. Factories, construction, hospitals, doctors, universities, students, work, a lot of work, deputies, dogs, cats .. ..... In 10 years, an invisible beauty city can stand on the shore of the Sea of ​​Japan! Modern! With modern houses, a subway, factories, cinemas, a city .... people will go there themselves.
    1. +8
      5 December 2012 09: 50
      Quote: rosomax
      With modern houses, metro, factories, cinemas, city .... people themselves will reach there.

      There are modern houses, but the apartments in them are almost the same as in Moscow. The people leave from the far and will continue to leave until there is investment in people living here. There is no incentive to live.
    2. Igor
      +3
      5 December 2012 09: 52
      If you provide tax benefits to all segments of the population, take less money from there, make normal housing and communal services tariffs, really fight corruption, then not only the Far East will begin to develop, but the whole country, but these state-owned corporations for development, this is just for stealing the money , like Oboronservis.
      1. +2
        5 December 2012 10: 51
        Quote: Igorek
        If

        In your post, this is the main word to regret hi
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        -2
        5 December 2012 11: 08
        That's for sure, they made feeders to make collecting loot easier! !!!!!
    3. SASCHAmIXEEW
      -1
      5 December 2012 11: 05
      Not necessarily by the sea, but to remove the capital from Moscow, leave one prident and that's enough!
  8. Skiff
    0
    5 December 2012 09: 48
    In response to the presidential criticism, Ishayev said that all the questions on delaying the preparation of the program are related to the fact that they received real authority to prepare it in the Ministry of Eastern Development only in mid-November, and it’s not possible to prepare such a serious document in a couple of weeks. In addition, the minister announced that corruption networks and the absence of a legislative base prevent him from working ...

    You would tell Comrade Stalin further corruption schemes, the bureaucrat openly confesses that he is not in his place, and is not fighting anything and is not doing anything, for the chopping block of it to plahuuu.
  9. +3
    5 December 2012 09: 55
    The Far East will not raise any private investor, no matter how much he invests, first of all, for the development of the region, people are needed who have no where to come from, the comprehensive development of the region can be pulled only by the state, and as it was said above, it is necessary to invest trillions and more than one year and in equal shares in infrastructure, people and enterprises, and the infrastructure should be developed ahead of schedule, there are no elementary roads, housing, hospitals, who will go there, only seasonal workers, but they won’t raise the edge, they’ll only dissolve more.
    That's where the stabilization fund needs to be directed
  10. +2
    5 December 2012 09: 58
    Some thoughts are born, others suddenly die off, still others are born stillborn.

    When thoughts are confused, not to great accomplishments.

    On his own behalf, Vladimir Putin proposes the idea of ​​a certain tax amnesty for businessmen who are going or have already gathered to invest in the economy of Transbaikalia and the Far East. The essence of the proposal is that within a decade not to collect the federal part of the income tax for those representatives of the business community who decide to invest more than half a billion rubles in enterprises of the region.

    A typical liberal approach to solving the problem.

    Chess on the Far Eastern chessboard: a check from Putin Minister Ishaev President Putin
    1. +2
      5 December 2012 10: 05
      Quote: Karabin
      Chess on the Far Eastern chessboard: a check from Putin to Minister Ishayev to President Putin

      So after all, the mat is not far in a chess sense. And as for the mat in the Russian sense, it is enough for the powers that be.
      1. 0
        5 December 2012 14: 53
        Quote: baltika-18
        So after all, and to the mat is not far

        I bow to the fact that there will be a stalemate.
  11. 0
    5 December 2012 10: 01
    The title of the article is not very correct. "Chess" - the president and the minister are not playing games, and it seems that they are not opponents, on the contrary - the level is different.
    You need something like "The last Chinese warning! Or a reprimand with an entry into the chest" laughing
  12. +2
    5 December 2012 10: 11
    I’ll intercede for Ishaev. Our region was near and in Khabarovsk. With whom he spoke, all Ishaev respected. By the way, in Khabarovsk I was pleased with posters with telephones on which you can call and report about corrupt bureaucrats.
    All the bureaucrats of the middle federal or municipal level are braking. We all clearly do not underestimate the possibilities of just such bureaucrats, the level of the head of Rostekhnadzor, the second deputy of a thread of the mayor, etc. They are very deftly able to translate arrows, cover their ass and do nothing in the end. The Far East is a storehouse of wealth and opportunity. The State Department through the fifth column will do everything to cut off all undertakings with the hands of corrupt bureaucrats.
    If Putin wants to get something from Ishayev, then let him give him dictatorial powers, at least for five years. Intelligence agencies must dig the earth with their nose, look for pests. We, ordinary citizens, should be able to report anonymously about the facts when bureaucrats press business.
    And finally, cancel all your pieces of paper and restrictions. For example, give the fish the opportunity to process without SESovskih inspection of premises! Check the quality of finished products taken in the store! Everywhere you spit, you have to run around the bureaucrats everywhere. And those have already been paid by competitors and are doing everything to hack you.
    1. +3
      5 December 2012 10: 59
      Quote: Magadan
      If Putin wants to get something from Ishayev, then let him give him dictatorial powers,

      Dictatorial powers will not help here. The foundation of the modern economy is energy. As long as the private trader in this area dictates the conditions, there is no need to talk about any positive changes. Moreover, with every 100 dollars received from the sale of oil to the state, only 34 are needed. the system itself, the funds received from this should be directed at the state level for such purposes as the construction of enterprises and housing, the development of infrastructure. The strategic sectors will be under control: energy, transport, raw materials, there will be development. We will not come to this, we will kill ourselves. We are not Europe , their economic model is not suitable for us. We need a symbiosis of a socialist system with various intersperses of market capitalist relations.
      1. 0
        5 December 2012 22: 25
        I agree to all 1000%. I always talk about this too. Nationalize the energy sector, transport and raw materials and set tariffs for domestic consumption at practically the same level as the prime cost. Speculative prices for energy and transport are ruining the entire industry. The most interesting thing is that only oligarchs and "fucking efficient managers" will suffer from this
      2. 0
        6 December 2012 03: 00
        Yes, I’m for it with both hands! But this does not mean that you need to sit and do nothing until the energy sector becomes 100% state-owned, and the lion's share of oil will also go to the people.
        Quote: baltika-18
        We need a symbiosis of a socialist system with various intersperses of market capitalist relations.

        Quoting my thoughts, colleague wink
  13. _arbit
    +1
    5 December 2012 10: 14
    You didn’t yell like that when the Great Ussuri and Damansky were given to the Chinese, didn’t go to rallies, didn’t support the authorities of the Far East who said they shouldn’t be given, eh? And then like jackals pounced on a person who put his health on this fucking patch of land, where the floor of a person is 1 square km. Who was accused of separatism when in the 2000s he asked for tax benefits and a departure from the federal budget. And which they still do not want to let go. And where we are trying to live, we are trying to do something. we discourage people from going west, because and there is work and here you can live. There is something to develop, but they do not.
  14. +2
    5 December 2012 10: 17
    If the state itself cannot decide which way to turn, to a simple person or an oligarch, how can one be asked from one minister at all! Dee and doubts take that decent people are sitting in this ministry. Stalin also had problems with personnel up to 37. But part of the planted
    , part shot, part in Birobidzhan drove to master the Far East and everything rolled!
  15. ironman
    0
    5 December 2012 10: 21
    Quote: Middle Brother
    The title of the article is not very correct. "Chess" - the president and the minister are not playing games, and it seems that they are not opponents, on the contrary, the level is different. Something like "The last Chinese warning! Or a reprimand with entering into the chest"

    Because of the "mess and corruption", the economy of the Far East is losing about 300 billion rubles a year, said the head of the Ministry of Eastern Development Viktor Ishaev.
    “The mess and corruption, of course, are extremely difficult. We calculated that we are losing about 300 billion rubles a year. Something is underestimated, licenses are not fulfilled, something is set aside, the difference is in customs ”,
    This is a direct blow under Putin’s breath. For Putin controls and coordinates the work of security forces (or does not control and does not coordinate ???).


    After some time, Putin will recall this to Ishaev. And make him a mate.
  16. 0
    5 December 2012 10: 42
    I watched part of this meeting on TV. The impression was that there was no Prime Minister at all, and the ministers were recruited from the janitors of the Kremlin housing and communal services. It was sad and sad. From May to October, Minvostok apparently only settled down in the classrooms. I’ve gotten it in vain.
  17. +1
    5 December 2012 10: 55
    Now we are told directly who will receive all the bonuses - big dealers, but they will never raise the economy of the Far East as a whole, this can only be done by an average entrepreneur and need to be guided if it is easy for him to start and develop his business only in this case talk about the development of the region. This is followed by a whole "bunch": cheap loans, tax incentives, low energy tariffs, it’s not mentioned, it’s easier to create a ministry, they probably hope that the ministry will generate cheap electricity. Now, with all the ministries, there is no sense why they decided that if there is one more ministry there will be better, the fifth wheel will not accelerate the movement.
  18. +1
    5 December 2012 10: 57
    Okay, wait and see that this ministry will work. That's just the pace, of course, is not impressive, it will last from May to November, to get money for work and not to do ANYTHING - it’s completely like that on a parish basis. And no matter how it turns out, as always - they’ll make a program, they’ll blow it up for the whole country, report back, tell how much money is needed for it, and even allocate money ... and then ... oh well, I won’t be sad, you need to believe in something good!
  19. ironman
    +1
    5 December 2012 12: 00
    Quote: baltika-18
    The foundation of the modern economy is energy.

    The foundation of the modern economy is competent management and control. In Japan, Taiwan, Switzerland, Finland there are no energy resources of its own, but the state apparatus performs its functions for 4+. As a result, a good achievement in most sectors of the eco-economy and the social sphere.
    On the other side are Venezuela and Nigeria. Oil at least flood but the effectiveness of public administration at 3-
    Quote: baltika-18
    We are not Europe, their current economic model is not suitable for us.

    Excuse me, what kind of Europe are you talking about ?. About the British model. Germanic. Or maybe Italian. Or do you mean the Norwegian model. All of them are very different in terms of taxes, the financial sector, the degree of integration into European institutions and much more .....
    There is no such average European model.
    1. +1
      5 December 2012 12: 35
      Quote: ironman
      Excuse me, what kind of Europe are you talking about?

      I am talking about the capitalist model of the economy.
      Quote: ironman
      The foundation of the modern economy is competent management and control

      And the basis is still energy, and competent management is just a way to achieve certain goals. It depends on what goal is set, such a management method is chosen.
  20. ironman
    -1
    5 December 2012 12: 55
    Quote: baltika-18
    I am talking about the capitalist model of the economy.

    There are no others, dear, from the moment we invented how to evaluate a person’s work in money.
    Even in North Korea and Belarus, the economy is based on monetary settlements.
    Quote: baltika-18
    And the basis is still energy, and competent management is just a way to achieve certain goals. It depends on what goal is set, such a management method is chosen.

    The goal all the time is the same - with less cost to achieve more with the least environmental disturbances. Methods are selected based on the qualifications of managers.
    Excuse me. Are you still in school? Somehow with the theory of management and the fundamentals of the economy is not very.
  21. +2
    5 December 2012 13: 38
    the minister announced that corruption networks and the lack of a legislative base prevent him from working ...

    Well, why then agreed to become a minister, I would immediately say, they say, I can’t. Once 18 years he was the governor, he knows the situation.
    Well, in general, colleagues, at least someone represents WHICH RICH COUNTRY - the Far East. And after all, almost everything is direct - to China. I couldn’t imagine until in Khabarovs I saw, or rather I didn’t, see the opposite bank of the Amur: all in one, one to one there were barges with a round timber to be sent to China !!! Oil, coal, forest, minerals, fertile land, fish, thermal springs ... Total not count. If you DO NOT IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY, we will lose the DV ... If we have not already lost.
  22. mogus
    0
    5 December 2012 14: 51
    tax breaks ... blah ... won't solve anything. while the country has a system of 70% to the federal budget, and 30% to the regions (these are only roughly sounded ratios by officials, after all, there are 15 to 85). you need to take less and control the expense / investment. and so Moscow lives, the regions are the last ..uy without salt they eat up. in Transbaikalia, the forest is pressed, there is no other work ... what to do? Yakutia gives almost 100% of diamonds, but according to our system it turns out to be a subsidized region! while Moscow is pursuing a policy towards the regions along the lines of the 90s (this system was introduced at the behest of "teachers of democracy), the question is, what is preventing this from changing now?
  23. +4
    5 December 2012 16: 20
    I read the article and realized:
    He mastered the power of comments: only 2-3 people understand where they live, and understand what needs to be done ...
    ---------------------
    Before offering different options for the development of the Far East, you look at the map (geographic), then look at the transport map, then at the map of minerals ... then let’s ... make suggestions.
    But the essence is simple:
    The entire Far East is a mixed city (some may only be called urban-type settlements: Okhotsk, Magadan,) with almost broken transport networks, each of which has 1 or several universities.
    Of all this monotony, only Blagoveshchenks, Khabarovsk, Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Sovetskaya Gavan (Vanino), Vladivostok are located on the railway line. Of these, the most developed industrial: Komsomolsk and Vladivostok.
    Ludi.
    With the advent of new market relations, many enterprises went bankrupt and ceased to exist. An excess of people and personnel formed - people began to leave. You can live with a natural type of economy, but not everyone likes it.
    If a factory / enterprise is opened in the Far East, an unpleasant situation opens up when the shift workers build the factory (because the company from M. won the tender for the construction), and the local population is not a lot.
    Normal people try to leave, there are nowhere left for those to leave: here a problem arises like an accident on Nerpa Square (someone bought something, someone didn’t check the system in the laboratory before pouring (it also didn’t care), got it .. tragedy).
    Example: Living in the Far East for 12-13 thousand (with the northern ones) is extremely difficult for ml of medical staff than in a city in central Russia and getting 15-17 thousand (without the northern ones) on hand. I think it’s not worth writing about housing and communal services tariffs.
  24. +3
    5 December 2012 16: 36
    Many people remember that recently a dry cargo ship sank in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. But if you think carefully, you get an unsightly situation: Polymetal - it extracts ore near Okhotsk, takes the ship to Nikolaevsk-on-Amur, then it is loaded onto barges and transported past Komsomolsk to Amursk - to the newly built ore plant. (Or Albazino-Amursk - in winter on winter roads, in summer on Amur).

    About the fishing industry, so generally hemorrhoid. How much is already on the lips, and the Ministry of Fisheries and Water Management does not solve all the problems. Everyone just says that it’s long and expensive to bring fish from the Far East to the Center of Russia. But did they exist in the USSR in eateries - fish days ?? how then lived.?

    Taxes will not change anything. Nothing. If they are eaten up by tariffs higher than selling electricity to China.

    Building and increasing Transiba? everybody talks about it, writes, makes smart predictions. But Russian Railways will not pull this project, and increasing the capacity of the road is absolutely not profitable militarily, especially since the capacity of the ports on them is low.
  25. ironman
    +4
    5 December 2012 16: 49
    Academician Pavel Minakir, director of the Institute for Economic Research of the Far Eastern Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences, writes in the article "It's time to stop looking for the philosopher's stone" http://expert.ru/2012/12/5/pora-perestat-iskat-filosofskij-kamen/
    “Understand that the constant search for a“ magic solution ”or a philosophical stone for the Far East is completely meaningless. The first is the large-scale exploitation of raw materials (the use of real advantages) and the production of products that allow for the growing scale of production and exports (for example, electricity, ferrous and non-ferrous metals). The second is the formation and maintenance of the main transport infrastructure for Russian products to enter the APR markets Third, the stubborn increase in the capacity of the internal diversified market in various areas by supporting the notorious private initiative, small industries, services, etc. etc.). In short, on D The Alm East should develop a normal, structurally complex economy. If there is a market, there will be prospects for people and industries. But this is difficult, and with the current economic policy it is simply impossible. "
    And I agree with him. The inability to work at the constant pace of the president and the government leads to companionship today.
    1. +1
      6 December 2012 09: 39
      ironman
      ... The first is the large-scale exploitation of raw materials (the use of real advantages) and the production of products that allow for an increasing scale of production and export (for example, electricity, ferrous and non-ferrous metal). The second .... The third ...

      From the first. Large-scale exploitation of it is impossible without solving the issue of transport and energy tariffs for the region. Further ... It is impossible without long-term investments in infrastructure. There are not many real and promising fields in the region located near the Transsib. All of them are mainly in the north, where you can fly only by helicopter.
      Each such project requires careful study, and who will do it? Yes, we even have a well-developed Elga (coal mine) breathes through time.
  26. +1
    5 December 2012 17: 40
    Yes, which investor will go here, who will let him in. Everything has been divided for a long time: forest, fish, gold, and nothing more, what half a billion, what? Tariffs will devour everything, railway, energy, heat ... Here, for good, the investor also needs to pay extra. There are no cheap loans. Moscow has long been able to buy it. Utopia is all here. They want to increase energy cooperation with China, we sell kilowatts to China cheaper than local ones, that is, to ourselves ... By the spring they promise a loaf of bread for 30-ku. People in China are buying apartments, it’s getting cheaper. And how many Ishaev, being the governor, offered these programs ...
  27. zemlyak
    0
    5 December 2012 18: 48
    Far Easterners themselves are to blame. Is your fish dear? So you sell it to yourself, hit the prices, am I coming up? Bioresources exterminate? And who exterminates them? Who is pulling everything out of the sea? Are you rowing everything for loot, or are they coming from central Russia and all the rivers are being pulled by nets when salmon goes to spawn? But who cuts down the forest and shoves everything into China? Everything is for sale, and then dumped in the same Moscow. Yes, Moscow does not argue with anyone. Start with yourself, your homegrown officials, because they didn’t fall from the moon, you choose them yourself. Do you want to separate? Well, well. We also at 91, when they scattered into independent apartments, they shouted, we’ll live, everything is there, and gas and oil coal the entire periodic table from uranium to gold, the population is 16 million, the population of Moscow alone, live and rejoice. Second emirates, damn it. As the poor people were and remained, but Astana was built guess what money. Do not build illusions. You paid tribute to Moscow, you will pay your kings, the same Darkins and Ishaev. Do you pay the same Ishaev now, or is he your altruist and silver-free?
    1. +1
      6 December 2012 03: 11
      Yes, not us, not residents rowing. Selling bureaucrats handed over everything to Muscovites.
      We have a fish river, Ola. This year there was a bad move of salmon and no one was given licenses. But some brigades still stood. They asked who and where they were from, they said that their owners were from Moscow.
      Local bureaucrats are no longer shy about anyone coming to the river, and pulling fish with a tractor with nets, when the local is not even allowed to catch the tail. At the same time, fish supervision comes, they see that they are people from the prosecutor’s office, judges, riot police, city administration, etc., and begin to plow peacefully with them.
      That's how we live.
  28. 0
    5 December 2012 20: 15
    What pleases me most is that our state has finally paid attention to its eastern frontiers. And in my opinion quite seriously. The main thing is not to slow down. The capital must be moved to Yekaterinburg (as the city connecting Europe and Asia in Russia).
  29. wax
    0
    5 December 2012 23: 57
    The capital cannot be moved east, then such a mess will begin that again the Poles will be in Moscow. But to give Siberia and D. East the opportunity to receive solid rent from the bowels of the earth and use it on the spot for development, it is necessary as quickly as possible. In addition to state investments, of course.
  30. _arbit
    +1
    6 December 2012 01: 02
    zemlyak,

    hahaha guy are you burning))) Look at the logging enterprises, who are the owners?) At the oil refineries, at the extraction and processing of fish on Sakhalin, at the dress of the Bureyskaya hydroelectric power station who promised that the energy will go to the Far East and, as a result, goes to China without going through a single city on its way, and who is the owner of the authorized capital ?? More than 70% of Muscovites.

    ps: Ishaev is silver-free.
  31. 0
    6 December 2012 03: 04
    Quote: _arbit
    You didn’t yell like that when the Great Ussuri and Damansky were given to the Chinese, they didn’t go to rallies, they didn’t support the authorities of the Far East who said they don’t need to give

    Yes, because no one had heard about it then! Especially about the rallies!
    Everything is done with us quietly, from under the quiet. And therefore, since we are an "Internet community" here and there are more information opportunities now, let's agree to finally act together against (or for) some decisions and against specific scum.
  32. +3
    6 December 2012 09: 15
    I read all the comments. Himself from Khabarovsk.
    Comrades, dear! And here Ishaev?
    The topic of "raising" the Far East has existed since the time when Putin came in 2000. Full-fledged funding of federal regional programs went in, and individual investment projects also went. At the very least, but at least something breathed.
    Regarding the subject. The theme of the Far East is the development of the theme "Russia in the world layout". The first, it is impossible, and will not work, to be considered apart from the topic of the second - the strategy of the state. This is not a reform of the housing and communal services of the district microdistrict.
    And even if one speaks locally, only about the region’s strategy ... Annual economic forums are held here, different people gather, including the best Russian minds. Well, there is no consensus even among large Russian academics and professors regarding the vector of development of the region! There is no ideology :(
    And without understanding where to sail, without a course, not a single ship will go to any port. No matter how much currency, fuel oil and the number of teams were on it.

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