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Andrei Vajra: “Ukrainian Putin” is possible, but not “Ukrainian,” but Little Russian

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Today is visiting “Ruska Pravda” Andrei Vajra.

- Good day, Andrey. I will begin with a question that interests me personally, tell me, can a forecast influence the future course of events?

AV: Your question actually goes beyond simple physics. The concept of “future” itself is a pure product of human consciousness. Like the "past." In reality, there is no future, no past. They exist only in consciousness. Everything beyond consciousness exists only here and now. In fact of availability. That which does not fit into this fact of presence does not exist.

When someone's consciousness constructs a forecast, in fact it constructs something that does not exist. Similarly, someone's consciousness constructs a "prediction" or pure "fantasy." The prognosis differs from the “prediction” and “fantasy” only in that it is rigidly tied to facts independent of consciousness. Predicting consciousness, finding causal relationships, the forecast throws their chains into a non-existent future.

For example, a person plays billiards. His mind and body are trained on the perception of a causal relationship between the force-directionality of a cue hit on a ball and the trajectory of movement of this ball. A ball falling into a pocket is a good prognosis for a billiard player. This is a metaphysical game of consciousness with pure physics. At the same time, the forecast (the idea of ​​a ball pushed into a pocket) directly affects the events (movement of the body and hands).

What ultimately turns out? Just what you said, the impact of the forecast on current events.

But I took the simplest example, when consciousness metaphysically plays with pure physics (non-living objects). If it metaphysically plays not only with pure physics, but also with another consciousness, the effect of influence increases many times, since the nature of the consciousness of one person and the nature of the consciousness of another person are the same. Like the nature of the balls on the pool table. In this case, it is not necessary to format the existing here and now under the non-existent, i.e. forecast, meaning, idea. In this case, the forecast, the meaning, the idea (non-existent) themselves format the existing (perceiving its consciousness).


- That is, after all, the forecast can change the future?

A.V .: Yes. In the most direct way. It all depends on the goals and skills of the one who predicts. From his ability to metaphysically play with pure physics and human consciousness with the help of words, meanings, ideas.

Incidentally, in many ancient cultures this was well understood. For example, you can take the Germans. Their pre-Christian culture. The supreme god of the ancient Germans is Odin. On the one hand, he was an unsurpassed warrior, and on the other, an unsurpassed master of the magic of words. Having nailed himself to the sacred tree of Yggdrasil, he doomed himself to many days of torment, and being, as they say now, in an altered state of consciousness, he discovered runes magic, the manipulation of which allowed him to magically influence people and nature.

Buddhists talk about the same thing. The word is no less material than the objects of the physical world. And the word in the hands of the initiate can become a factor of powerful influence both on people and on the inanimate world.

In my opinion, not only the forecast, but any correctly chosen and used word that carries a meaning influences events. And the more people hear this word, the more massive the impact. But this does not mean that if everyone wants to reach a megaphone, newspaper or television channel, he will be able to influence something or someone. Thousands speak publicly, but only a few are heard by the masses. They write hundreds of thousands (in the age of universal literacy and the Internet), but they read only a small part of the writers. All others create a background.


- You have never experienced the illusion of the Party of Regions regarding the pro-Russian nature. Tell me, are there any external circumstances that can make them go to rapprochement with Russia?

AV: Of course there are. The main circumstance capable of forcing the Party of Regions to go towards rapprochement with Russia is Russia itself. More precisely, its political leadership. Re-read The Godfather is a reference book of modern politics. Sooner or later, Vladimir Vladimirovich will make Viktor Fedorovich such an “offer” that he cannot refuse. But, of course, before this the Russians need to conduct a series of preparatory activities. They are now consistently carried out. Therefore, it is possible that we will all wait for the “proposal” mentioned by me. In financial and economic terms, Ukraine is on its last legs.

- Is there a chance of a split in the "Party of Regions"?

AV: Of course. There is even the possibility of a palace coup. Already, there are many dissatisfied within this party. "Family" is prone to selfishness. Greed rolls over. This is reflected not only in mere mortals, but also in the political guards of the “regionals”. Already, among them there are a lot of those who have not received the desired. And no longer receive. It is an excellent breeding ground for a variety of splits and conspiracies. It is necessary only to give the slack to the “family”, and the most unexpected events may occur.


- Are there people among the “regionals” who you personally like?

AV: Mykola Azarov is sympathetic to me. With all its flaws and weaknesses, it looks more than positive against the general background of the “regionals”. In my opinion, in mind, culture, professionalism, it is in PR - a foreign body. I will say sedition, but in the presidential chair he would be more optimal. In the position of prime minister he is a hostage of the “collective” in which he is.

I like Dmitry Tabachnik. Again, like Azarov, according to his mind, culture, professionalism, he is in the PR - a foreign body and a hostage of the “collective”. He is not perfect. But everything is relative. Compared with the rest of the leadership of the PR, and, even more so, the "svidomi" of various colors, it is just a human being.

I like Andrew Klyuev. His sanity and pragmatism. Of course, he is still the “beetle”. If you wish, you cannot write it down in the saints. But he is extremely adequate. In our times, this is a rare quality. And who among us can be counted among the saints?


- Do you see people in Ukraine capable of ruling the state, understanding the depth of the existing problems?

AV: I do not see. Yes, and not seen. All of our state top managers are managers, at best, middle managers. In the ruling elite and among those who crowd around it, there are no people of a national scale. And every year the whole audience is shallow.


- “Ukrainian Putin” - impossible in principle?

AV: Well, why is it impossible? It is possible! But not "Ukrainian", but Little Russian. The whole "Ukrainian" was initially set up on a small scale. A village can produce only atamans who jump along the steppes with a whoop or sweat in caches. They will always be the exhaust of an extra-historic village claiming something more. And the Little Russian urban environment may well give birth to political figures of the scale of Putin, and maybe even more. But as long as everything is trapped in the grip of the agrarian Ukrainians, the era of great personalities will not come here.


- How do you assess the chances of coming to power, "Ukrainian choice" Viktor Medvedchuk?

AV: What is the "Ukrainian choice"? Well, there is a certain collective who sits at Vladimir Vladimirovich’s salary. So what? So far, the “Ukrainian choice” is only an information decoration for the law on referendum, which was developed by Medvedchuk, and adopted by the Verkhovna Rada and the President on the urgent recommendation of Moscow. Some chances are only for Viktor Vladimirovich. And “Ukrainian choice” is just his toy. And any toy, sooner or later, bothers.


- Why is Ukraine so rich in Mazepa and Petlyur? Atamanschina Ukrainians in the blood?

AV: And what else can spawn a village? Take any “Ukrainian”, expand his intellect and culture to the necessary minimum, and he will automatically lose interest in any manifestation of Ukrainians. At the same time, we will receive either a Russian person or some European.


- Can federalization solve the problems of the split of Ukraine into the West and the East? How real is it?

AV: Real. If the fullness of the federal government in the country will be in the hands of representatives of the Russian Ukraine. A federation is possible if Galician Ukraine has everything it wants. Give the Galicians and their political followers everything they need (except politics and economics), but at the regional level. And all will be happy.

They do not want to know Russian? Yes, the flag in their hands! Who will be worse from this? In this case, first of all, your child, who speaks perfect Russian, when he grows up, will receive a prestigious job in a Russian company. And believe me, everything goes to the fact that all serious business in Ukraine will be Russian. Well, all those who do not speak Russian will get a job easier. Receiving the street with a large broom, cleaning toilets, raising pigs and kneading the mortar at a construction site is also necessary for someone.


- Is the collapse of Ukraine inevitable?

AV: In this world, the probable predominates over the inevitable. In this case, “decay” is a process. This process is underway. This fact is difficult to deny even the latest "Svidomo" idiot. I'm not for nothing that my big cycle of articles was called “DECAY”. And the final result of this process can only be assumed.


- What is the main problem of the Russian movement in Ukraine? Why don't Russians vote for “Russian parties”?

AV: The main problem of the Russian movement in Ukraine is the absence of this movement. I hope you understand that a small group of political balabolos trying to feed on the theme of the Russian-Ukrainian rapprochement cannot be called a Russian movement. And it is necessary to be completely sick in the head, in order to vote for these no matter how incapable balabolok.


- Let's dream up, if Andrei Vajra became president of Ukraine, what would be your first actions?

AV: Nuuu ... Sergey ... Even if such an incredibility is allowed, why should I lay my cards on the table? Let it be my little secret. On this occasion, I can only say one thing: by the end of the first presidential cadence of Andrei Vajra, our country will be different. Fundamentally different.

Questions prepared by Sergey Lunev
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 4 December 2012 06: 38
    +4
    I read, but not read. After that, as I saw the words that there is no past and no future, he went out. Without the past there is no future! The article is more scientific than political. Moreover, scientific with a big stretch. hi
    1. andrey777
      andrey777 4 December 2012 11: 38
      +4
      Rather philosophical.
  2. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 4 December 2012 06: 53
    0
    “Ukrainian Putin” - impossible in principle?

    A.V .: Well, why is it impossible? It is possible! But not “Ukrainian”, but Little Russian. All “Ukrainian” initially exhibited a small scale
    .
    Brothers Ukrainians, ask Medvedev he will change the scale from Little Russian to Great Russian ... Touchscreen!
  3. Magadan
    Magadan 4 December 2012 07: 13
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The article is more scientific than political. Moreover, scientific with a stretch

    That's for sure. A lot of recent philosophers-heromants. It’s clear that the past already no, but the future more no, but what have the Germans to do with the Buddhists? It was clear without them. The past is super important. Especially for us, Russians and Ukrainians with such a rich and glorious history. So let's study the rich experience of our ancestors and instead of introducing foreign philosophy into our country, let's live our own traditions.
  4. smel
    smel 4 December 2012 07: 47
    +1
    Based on the author’s assumptions, he should not even have made assumptions about the future and remembered history. People differ from animals in that they remember not only the causes of their unconditioned reflexes, but can also reveal a causal relationship, pass on the experience to descendants and others and to draw conclusions for the future. So history (past) and perspective (future) are very relevant for human society.
  5. bart74
    bart74 4 December 2012 09: 29
    +7
    The federalization of Ukraine is a healthy and pressing issue. It is necessary to prevent the collapse of the state in favor of external forces. Nevertheless, with all the differences between Western and Eastern Ukraine, they have more in common than with the same Poles and other fragments of Austria-Hungary. Well, of course, the conclusion about the need to unite Russia and Ukraine into a union state suggests itself. I think this is the question of the next few years.
    1. mda
      mda 4 December 2012 19: 29
      -1
      Quote: bart74
      I think this is the question of the next few years.

      While the power in Ukraine is treading water on the spot, there can be no talk of any unification.
  6. Altor86
    Altor86 4 December 2012 10: 19
    -1
    Nobody will allow them to unite. No one needs a strong Russia. All these are pseudo-scientific conversations. And leaders who are able to restore the state have probably not yet been born.
    1. Nick
      Nick 4 December 2012 22: 58
      +1
      Quote: Altor86
      Unite will not allow. Strong Russia does not need anyone.

      A strong Russia is needed by all Russian people, all indigenous Russian peoples ...
  7. Oidsoldier
    Oidsoldier 4 December 2012 10: 41
    0
    The project "Andrey Vajra" is being launched in Ukraine. A certain comrade gives interviews, writes articles, but the audience has not seen him. Reading his articles, one gets the opinion that not one person is writing, but a team of authors, one can see the difference in approaches, stylistics, and sometimes views on the problem. Interview articles like this one often appear. She stands in the line of events when the entourage makes the "king". I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Lunev himself asked and answered questions.
  8. White
    White 4 December 2012 10: 42
    +10
    Yes, I read it and once again made sure that this site has some unhealthy love for Ukraine. Articles about my country are just waterfalls of diarrhea. And what I don’t understand at all is what are the goals of all this propaganda.

    Something needs to be answered, or else someone will believe the words of the author.
    1. Evil, angry Galicians hate Russians and fundamentally do not know the Russian language, which is why they are not accepted into Russian companies (is it interesting what Gazprom is). For starters, you would go to Lviv or Ivano-Frankivsk, they normally speak Russian there, it is clear that if you behave like a bull, they will also answer you.

    2. About people, this is generally a stupor for me, in villages, or something else sort of people. As far as I know, the situation with the ratio of rural to urban population only last decades, the years began to lean towards the latter. But let us recall the USSR and those who to a large extent built its glory. Why is there that the science of Russia was laid by someone - Lomonosov.

    3. About Putin-the Russians are happy, but the president was lucky, well done, but this is almost an accident, and the rest, what ministers do you have or are ideals straightforward. People that you have that we have the same and elites are the same.

    In general, once again explain to me the motivation to constantly print this. And so judging by what I see on RTR, everyone hates Ukraine
    1. EropMyxoMop
      EropMyxoMop 4 December 2012 11: 08
      -1
      About Putin - the Russians are happy, but the president was lucky

      Strongly controversial statement.
    2. washi
      washi 4 December 2012 13: 27
      +2
      Again, solid emotions. And the whole question is in religion. Daniil Romanovich (Galitsky) even in 1254 lay down under the pope, because of the royal crown, for his well-being. Since then, there has been a civil war between Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
    3. Magadan
      Magadan 5 December 2012 01: 26
      +1
      I will not say about the site, but forum users have a healthy love for Ukraine. I don’t know what comments you read, where they say something bad about Ukraine. We also perceive your problems to heart, so sometimes someone from a pure heart also complains about your power or Natsik. But it normal. This means that you are not indifferent to us.
      Do they hate Ukraine on RTR? Nothing like this. Russia there, if you judge so, is "hated" even more
  9. Karabin
    Karabin 4 December 2012 10: 57
    +12
    А.V .: I do not see. Yes, and did not see. All our government top managers are middle-level managers, at best. In the ruling elite and among those who crowd around it, there are no people of state scale. And every year this whole audience is becoming smaller.

    If not for the headline, I would have thought what was written about Russia.

    - Why is Ukraine so rich in Mazepa and Petlyur? Atamanschina Ukrainians in the blood?

    In the Russian Empire, the mess will not end. When in the Empire a mess on the outskirts appears atamans, bais and other small fry. As soon as order is established in the empire in power, the Tsar comes, and not visibility, the boyars are built at a stand at attention, on the outskirts of the chieftains and bais either swear allegiance to the Tsar or flee. While there is no King, we have what we have.
    1. kush62
      kush62 4 December 2012 15: 54
      0
      I rarely agree with Karabin, but here he is 100% right.
  10. DeamonFIre
    DeamonFIre 4 December 2012 11: 42
    0
    Who in general came up with the designation of the central part of Russia "Little Russia"? ... Nonsense ...
    1. Nachkar237
      Nachkar237 4 December 2012 13: 39
      +12
      NOT delirium but a historical reality! Your Ukraine, dear brother, has always been called Little Russia among the people (read Great Russia, Little Russia, Belarus) - these terms existed only among the people! (This is like, for example, in our city of Togliatti - 3 districts - Atozavodsky, Central, Komsomolsky, therefore the residents are called accordingly, however we are all Togliatti, and we are officially called by the name of our hometown! I hope the example is clear.), And so, the concept of "Little Russia "it also appeared because these territories were sometimes conquered from" you and me "and belonged for some time to other states ... (including Poland, etc.). Here on the site I have already written many times - we are not different and not fraternal peoples! WE ARE ONE ONE PEOPLE! We were artificially divided (before the October Revolution, Russia was a unitary state - there were no republics, nothing like that, there were provinces, Moscow, Minsk, Kiev, Kazan, Ufa ... there were many of them, and they were equal! The capital at that time was St. Petersburg !) and artificially we were divided by this nit Lenin - a German agent of influence, he managed to implement a plan to weaken Russia by dividing the consciousness of a once united people! As a result, a decree was adopted on the self-determination of nations - a lie in the literal sense, since the nation was united! Fooled the gullible people! Now we have what we have!
      In addition, judge for yourself: how we can be different nations if we went from the same Kievan Rus!
      1. ebrd
        ebrd 4 December 2012 17: 34
        +1
        Nachkar237,
        ... Lenin, a German agent, shared this nits ... I agree to 100. The Emperor of All Russia was too soft. So, just an ax and a rope.
  11. ironman
    ironman 4 December 2012 12: 20
    -3
    Quote: EropMyxoMop
    About Putin-that the Russians are happy, but the president was lucky, well done, Strongly controversial statement.


    According to a survey conducted by the Levada Center, the approval ratings for the activities of Russian President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev are falling. It is reported by Interfax.

    According to sociologists, over the past seven months, Putin's rating has declined by 6% (from 69% to 63%), Medvedev - by 10% (from 64% to 54%).

    The number of dissatisfied Putin has increased from 30% to 36%, with four percent adding to them only in the last month. 45% of respondents were disappointed with Medvedev.

    The trends are clear. Putin has nothing more to offer society. So partying cards in the deck. Kremlin Duma Government. The rich get richer. The poor were beaten. The quality of health care is falling. About the exam in school, the whole society speaks to the president. The president is deaf. In Putin’s fairy tales about affordable housing and 20 million skilled jobs, even the people in the village already disbelieve. For all the costs, the political situation in Ukraine is slightly better than in Russia.
    1. washi
      washi 4 December 2012 13: 26
      +2
      Nevertheless, he is the best of the worst.
  12. georg737577
    georg737577 4 December 2012 13: 03
    +4
    The article is neither scientific nor political. The article is ordered. I myself live in Ukraine, and I can say that the realities here are very different from the "masterpiece" described by the author. Article is a minus!
    1. washi
      washi 4 December 2012 13: 25
      -1
      Ukraine is big. Everywhere has its own truth. But everything is far from the truth of Kievan Rus
  13. washi
    washi 4 December 2012 13: 20
    +1
    Again, solid emotions. And the whole question is in religion. Daniil Romanovich (Galitsky) even in 1254 lay down under the pope, because of the royal crown, for his well-being. Since then, there has been a civil war between Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
  14. Orey
    Orey 4 December 2012 13: 25
    +2
    Who are these people?
  15. anchonsha
    anchonsha 4 December 2012 13: 26
    +1
    Although not in everything, one can agree with a part of the conclusions in the article. With the same philosophy, we reason and create models of our development. Otherwise it will not work. The same thing is about the past and future in philosophy, these concepts are beyond the laws of physics. The fact that the ruling elite in Ukraine has come off the face of the real state of affairs in the country. It can be insight, but what about reality, when finances are in the hands of an elite estate, that the current government understands well, but does not take steps to change the situation. But here Yanukovych can be too late, which will be fraught with the elite itself, and not just with the people.
  16. Mr.Fox
    Mr.Fox 4 December 2012 14: 53
    -3
    Why don't you love us so much, eh, Slavs? Sala is not enough for you? We found another "expert" who makes himself public relations on throwing mud at Ukraine and happily posted his scribbles here ... Not tired?
  17. Abel
    Abel 4 December 2012 16: 01
    +5
    Mr. Fox, no need to generalize. Firstly, you are also Slavs, and secondly, after reading the article, no thoughts of dislike do not come to mind, rather the subjective opinion of another analyst here, he lives by what he presents his vision of situations. And we have enough fat, our own, by the way :) So, look at the world more calmly and more optimistic. In addition, to be honest, the Ukrainian side is more likely to hear very critical statements about Russia. So .. As for whether we are tired of, we can ask the same question to you (the Ukrainians, that is) so ... as my cousin from Odessa says: "don't take the bad in your head, but take the heavy in your hand" !
  18. VadimSt
    VadimSt 4 December 2012 16: 28
    +1
    A frank provocateur acting according to the Gapon priest scheme (1905). His provocative articles have already been thrown in.
    1. VadimSt
      VadimSt 4 December 2012 16: 56
      -1
      What are his supposedly "open sympathies" for Azarov, Klyuev, Tabachnik. Well, everything is clear with Tabachnik, he added it to heighten the weight - indeed, the minister, who sharply limited Ukrainization of everything and everything, which caused the "noisy" protests of the Orange. But, from Messrs. Azarov and Klyuev, something I have not seen, special friendly messages to Russia, except for frank chatter about free gas. And after the adopted pension and other reforms, Mr. Azarov, nothing but negative causes, both among the "orange" and among the "blue" voters.

      And what an allusion to the offer ("Putin"), from which ("Yanukovych") cannot be refused, at the same time, he unequivocally recommends reading "The Godfather".

      Especially, it is intended to "alarm true Ukrainians", a question and an answer, oh - "Real. If all the fullness of federal power in the country will be in the hands of representatives of Russian Ukraine ......."

      I emphasize once again, the article is provocative, and is not aimed at strengthening the friendship of the Russian and Ukrainian people! It is most likely focused on Ukrainian visitors to the site, because the rest, before the Vajara sermons, have no business.
  19. bazis
    bazis 4 December 2012 17: 13
    +5
    Russia and Ukraine are the same as two bottles of mineral water, only one with gas, and the other not)))))) drinks joke....
  20. Daduda
    Daduda 4 December 2012 17: 16
    +1
    Dream about not a dream, about not a dream: a dream.
  21. MG42
    MG42 4 December 2012 18: 10
    +1
    Why is Ukraine so rich in Mazep and Petlyur? Is Atamanism in the blood of Ukrainians?

    Correct - soon hetman - 2 x ... la - 3 hetman in the end.
    Take any “Ukrainian”, expand his intellect and culture to the necessary minimum, and he will automatically lose interest in any manifestations of Ukrainians. In this case, we get either a Russian person.

    This will not affect the Galicians and other schools - you can’t blind a Russian from Bandera. lol
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 4 December 2012 18: 27
      +4
      yeah, western Ukraine has always been under someone.
      1. MG42
        MG42 4 December 2012 18: 33
        +4
        There is another dialect and mentality, happened to go with the Galicians in the same train. So I like Ukrainian normally know, but their mov is difficult to understand.
    2. MG42
      MG42 4 December 2012 22: 48
      +7
      About how many Bandera people settled here fellow , then the article is just what the doctor ordered. Just minus means a comment is just a direct hit.
      I repeat from Bandera Russian does not work, because blank - g @ vno! lol
      1. Kars
        Kars 4 December 2012 22: 52
        -1
        Quote: MG42
        I repeat from Bandera Russian does not work, because blank - g @ vno

        The user said with the nickname MG42))))))))))))) okay DShK, ShVAK, or DT))))
        which only))))))))))) the site does not carry.
        1. MG42
          MG42 4 December 2012 23: 01
          +1
          Oh the main nationalist drew hi What do you call a lover of cars? I don’t look at nicks at all, but at comments.
          1. Kars
            Kars 4 December 2012 23: 07
            -3
            Quote: MG42
            the main nationalist drew

            Well, not the most important, but a patriot of independent Ukraine.
            Quote: MG42
            What are you called a lover of cars?

            The first four letters of my surname, and the ending is like the current president of the Russian Federation))))))
            Quote: MG42
            I don’t look at nicks at all, but at comments

            A strange, very strange man then called himself the name of a German machine gun that collected a bloody harvest from the Red Army.
            The name says a lot about a person. And with you everything is clear from one glance.
            1. MG42
              MG42 4 December 2012 23: 14
              +3
              Quote: Kars
              Strange, very strange man

              What do you care? What from the first attempt did not understand what I wrote to you above? As soon as you have grown to Marshal, uzhos!
              You wrote that your hobby is "trolling"? request
              However, I will not explain to you anyway it won’t reach you, they are rather weak for trolling.
              1. Kars
                Kars 4 December 2012 23: 17
                -3
                Quote: MG42
                What do you care?

                I do not like earflaps with nicknames MG42, Hartmann, Bormann, Goebelss.
                Quote: MG42
                do not understand what I wrote to you above?

                The fact that you took yourself a rattle from the ceiling? Will you tell it in kindergarten.
                1. MG42
                  MG42 4 December 2012 23: 25
                  +2
                  Not you, but you this time - the poke will break at you - these are two complaints write in a personal. The dialogue is over, relax lover of cars. hi
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 4 December 2012 23: 27
                    -4
                    Quote: MG42
                    Not you, but you this time

                    I made fun of fascist))))))
                    Quote: MG42
                    have complaints write in PM

                    what for do I need it?
                    Quote: MG42
                    Dialogue is over

                    ))))))))))))))) laughing
                    1. MG42
                      MG42 4 December 2012 23: 29
                      +2
                      Quote: Kars
                      what for do I need it?

                      Yes, you are also a bastard besides wink
                      Find at least one comment sympathetic to fascism, on the contrary, I am an ardent anti-fascist. A nickname to troll is just right.
                      1. Kars
                        Kars 4 December 2012 23: 32
                        -4
                        Quote: MG42
                        Yes, you are also a bastard besides

                        With the fascist of Marats in drugs? Meaning?
                        And why should I? Boys? Mat oppression, so from the Hitler Youth it is harmless.
                      2. MG42
                        MG42 4 December 2012 23: 37
                        +3
                        Well, you see one Bandera just chopped! wink And the article is good to the author my plus. That's how Bandera flatters!
                      3. Kars
                        Kars 4 December 2012 23: 42
                        -3
                        Quote: MG42
                        Well, you see one Bandera just chopped

                        I made fun, fascist))))))) he chopped --- the chopper did not grow))
                        My opinion on Ukrainian-Russian relations is known to everyone who is interested in this topic, and visits articles that are usually about .. how bad things are in Ukraine .. cover these aspects.
                        But you all the same fascist change drove, or the flag near it to Fritzevsky with a swastika.
                      4. MG42
                        MG42 4 December 2012 23: 48
                        0
                        Yes, you yourself are a shell-shocked fascist, you can see you hit hard on the head by the hatch from the tank! Re-read the comments "trolling" with cars.
                      5. Kars
                        Kars 4 December 2012 23: 55
                        -3
                        Quote: MG42
                        Reread the comments "trolling"

                        )))))))))))))))
                        Quote: Kars
                        Quote: MG42
                        I repeat from Bandera Russian does not work, because blank - g @ vno
                        The user said with the nickname MG42))))))))))))) okay DShK, ShVAK, or DT))))
                        which only)))))))))))) the site does not have



                        MG 42 (German: Maschinengewehr 42) - German single machine gun from the Second World War. Developed by Metall- und Lackwarenfabrik Johannes Großfuß AG in 1942. This weapon also had the nickname Hitler Saw.


                        And do not be ashamed of you fascist on such a site so politician?
                      6. MG42
                        MG42 5 December 2012 00: 07
                        0
                        Quote: Kars
                        so politician on such a site?


                        There, at the end of the clip, good photos of how such tankers were captured by Soviet soldiers. soldier
                        The first verse of spices for you.
                      7. Kars
                        Kars 5 December 2012 00: 24
                        -3
                        It’s strange and you don’t feel sorry for your comrades? Hitler youth?

                        And the song, a good song of your mental level, judging by your comments.

                        Well, since I shared with the public how did you rack your brains how would you call yourself when registering for VO?
                      8. MG42
                        MG42 5 December 2012 00: 28
                        0
                        Yes, I'm not sorry you guessed Bandera.
                      9. MG42
                        MG42 5 December 2012 00: 26
                        +1
                        What are you nafig tanker.
                      10. Kars
                        Kars 5 December 2012 00: 34
                        -3
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, since I shared with the public how did you rack your brains how would you call yourself when registering for VO?


                        Well, what a fascist, tell us how you decided to take your nicknames .. the name of the machine gun, I wanted to feel myself. Hitler's saw)))))
                        Is it really such a wretched fantasy)))

                        •Full name: Яwassat Group: Visitors
                        • Date of visit: December 5 2012 00: 29
                        • Registration Date: October 31 2012 21: 24
                      11. MG42
                        MG42 5 December 2012 00: 39
                        0
                        What is it about you? lol Accurately shell-shocked. I already answered you!
                        Quote: MG42
                        Find at least one comment sympathetic to fascism, on the contrary, I am an ardent anti-fascist. A nickname to troll is just right.

                        Quote: MG42
                        What do you care? That on the first try you didn't understand what I wrote to you above? As soon as you have grown up to the Marshal, uzhos! You wrote that your hobby is "trolling"?

                        Quote: MG42
                        However, I will not explain to you anyway it won’t reach you, they are rather weak for trolling.
                      12. Kars
                        Kars 5 December 2012 00: 49
                        -3
                        Quote: MG42
                        I already answered you!

                        You answered? No, I don’t see. And you are a fascist by nickname, and you will kindle comments between ethnic Russians and Ukrainians. You are doing petty tricks, but you see the phantasy is poor that you made such a nickname for yourself)))))
                        Quote: MG42
                        , for trolling weak

                        It froze the fascist who wrote ---
                        Quote: MG42
                        Dialogue is over relax

                        count how much after that you commented?

                        and so weak?
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, what a fascist, tell us how you decided to take your nicknames .. the name of the machine gun, I wanted to feel myself. Hitler's saw)))))
                        Is it really such a wretched fantasy)))


                        • Full name: I • Group: Visitors
                        • Date of visit: December 5 2012 00: 29
                        • Registration Date: October 31 2012 21: 24
      2. Alexander Petrovich
        Alexander Petrovich 5 December 2012 05: 21
        +3
        XDDD is well said - +
      3. Kars
        Kars 5 December 2012 13: 12
        0
        Quote: MG42
        I repeat from Bandera Russian does not work, because blank - g @ vno!

        Wow, this was said by the subhuman with the nickname MG42 who took the nickname of Pila Hitler, okay, it would be DShK, ShKAS or DT.
        Probably for a long time puzzled how to call themselves, why not Goebbels? Then it would be more understandable attempts to incite ethnic hatred.
        I am ashamed that such individuals fly under the flag of my homeland.
      4. Kars
        Kars 5 December 2012 15: 16
        0
        Quote: MG42
        I repeat from Bandera Russian does not work, because blank - g @ vno!



        It is interesting that this was said .... Russian ... taking on a nickname from Hitler's Spit, a German WWII machine gun from the fire of which thousands of Russians, Ukrainians, Uzbeks and so on were killed.

        ETOGES what kind of imagination you need to have in order to come up with this when registering. Although it is clear from the comments that the speaker is a nickname taken to incite intrusion.

        I am personally ashamed that there are such people on such a reputable site, and even under the flag of my homeland. Next time Goebbels, Skorzeny, Bormans will be?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 December 2012 15: 19
          +1
          Quote: Kars
          I wonder what that said

          Kars, I wrote everything to you in PM, tie it up. Start again to peel each other, delete all comments.
          1. Kars
            Kars 5 December 2012 17: 48
            +1
            C'mon, I’m still complaining how some I will not run.
        2. washi
          washi 26 January 2013 16: 47
          0
          I agree Quote: MG42
          I repeat from Bandera Russian does not work, because blank - g @ vno!
          they offended against regular troops, and against women - rapists and murderers ahead. T.E., quite in the connection of modern Europe - Sadomaso
  22. vezunchik
    vezunchik 4 December 2012 18: 24
    0
    December 3 | Policy | "PRIME"
    Medvedev indexed 2,85 times pensions to ex-employees of the Kremlin administrationMOSCOW, Dec 3 - RIA Novosti. Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev indexed pensions to former employees of the presidential administration by 2,85 times. The corresponding decree was signed by the head of the cabinet last Thursday.
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 5 December 2012 09: 43
      0
      You put these cons to Medvedev ???
  23. gladiatorakz
    gladiatorakz 4 December 2012 19: 15
    +1
    Delirium of a drunken gibon. What does Voennoye Obozreniye have to do with the predictions and assessments of schizoids? Who is this author? Is this some kind of unknown authority? A moral landmark? Why is someone on this website constantly trying to "patronizingly" teach Ukrainians how to live?
    (“Disintegration” is a process. This process is under way. This fact is difficult to deny even for the last “Svidomo” idiot.) That is, anyone who does not agree with this MUDI.L.O.Y. automatically i.di.o.t. Also "Svidomo". Tired of these words-labels: svidomo, liberast, swamp, etc. Opinion manipulation.
    Such contempt for people from the village. And there, just the majority are clean, honest people. Children from the villages do not know what glamor, fashion and other homosexuals are. And this bull: The village can produce only atamans who jump with a hoot along the steppes or sweat in caches. Does he even understand what Ataman means?
    “Take any“ Ukrainian ”, expand his intellect and culture to the required minimum, and he will automatically lose interest in any manifestations of Ukrainianity.” There are no words. Who is from Russia, imagine what to write about the expansion of the culture and intellect of the Russian and he will immediately lose interest in Russia. I have no word for this chmyr that the local moderators would have missed. But they miss such libels. And very often. Although many guys from Ukraine and Russia ask you to pay attention to this and prohibit the articles that divide us. But if such a gamna appears, then someone needs it.
    1. gladiatorakz
      gladiatorakz 4 December 2012 19: 57
      -2
      Yeah. Probably just lunev and the virtual vajra prezik have read and decidedly put mine.
  24. WW3
    WW3 4 December 2012 19: 16
    +3
    Sooner or later, Vladimir Vladimirovich will make such a “proposal” to Viktor Fedorovich that he cannot refuse. But, of course, before these Russians it is necessary to carry out a number of preparatory measures. They are now consistently implementing them. Therefore, it is possible that we will all wait for the “proposal” I mentioned.

    This is like Putin made a proposal to Tymoshenko in Moscow, which she could not refuse and the gas contract was signed?
    I wanted the author to more fully reveal the essence, rather than subtle hints of thick circumstances, so to speak ....
  25. Cat
    Cat 4 December 2012 19: 26
    +1
    - Do you see people in Ukraine capable of ruling the state, understanding the depth of the existing problems?

    A.V .: I do not see. Yes, and did not see. All our government top managers are middle-level managers, at best. In the ruling elite and among those who crowd around it, there are no people of state scale.


    I wonder: where, in what country are there such "top managers"? Compared to some Lumumba, they are, perhaps, very "top", but against the background of Stalin, Hitler, Churchill, or the same Peter I - they look very pale. And the scale of theirs is not the state, but the selfish interests of certain FIGs.
    And if among all the current "popularly elected" figures, Pan Vajra contrived to consider a leader who not only understands the full depth of existing problems, but also acts on the basis of this understanding, and acts in the interests of the state - well ... it remains only to envy Pan Vajra, or rather - his talent to see what is not
  26. The cat
    The cat 4 December 2012 22: 57
    -3
    "I like Mykola Azarov. For all its shortcomings and weaknesses, it looks more than positive against the general background of the "regionals". In my opinion, in terms of intelligence, culture, professionalism, he is a foreign body in PR "

    Thanks, laughed laughing . What kind of mind and culture can we talk about if he cannot learn to read in Ukrainian, regularly burns on TV. Yes, I’ll teach a weak-minded Papuan to READ this week, and the Prime Minister can’t do it.
  27. uizik
    uizik 4 December 2012 23: 50
    +3
    With Ukrainian Putin already late! Here you need a cooler ..
  28. vezunchik
    vezunchik 5 December 2012 00: 10
    +1
    The prosecution insists that Kvachkov and his associates intended to seize weapons depots and military units in several central cities of Russia, including Kovrov. In those warehouses that, according to the investigation, were to be seized, Kalashnikovs, RPK machine guns, RGS grenade launchers and other weapons were stored, among other things, Interfax reports.

    Earlier, Vladimir Kvachkov was accused of attempted murder of the former head of RAO UES of Russia Anatoly Chubais, but he was twice acquitted by the jury of the Moscow regional court. At the end of 2010, Kvachkov’s acquittal was approved by the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation. Subsequently, the former person involved in the case obtained an apology from the prosecutor's office for unlawful criminal prosecution through the court, and also sought 450 thousand rubles through the court as compensation for non-pecuniary damage.

    The day after the Supreme Court’s meeting, the colonel was taken by FSB operatives to the Lefortovo court of Moscow, who charged him with attempting to prepare an armed coup and facilitate terrorist activities. Vladimir Kvachkov was again arrested.

    As part of the investigation of the new case, the colonel was subjected to a psychiatric examination, which the officer considered a personal insult. According to the results of a study of his condition, Kvachkov was found to be mentally healthy and fully sane. On October 17, 2012, the Moscow City Court rejected the defendant's motion to dismiss the criminal case against him. Two weeks later, the panel of judges also refused to satisfy the petition of the lawyers to hold open hearings.

    Thieves are not planted-they are not dangerous ....
  29. Selevc
    Selevc 5 December 2012 00: 43
    +3
    AV: Mykola Azarov is sympathetic to me. With all its flaws and weaknesses, it looks more than positive against the general background of the “regionals”. In my opinion, in mind, culture, professionalism, it is in PR - a foreign body. I will say sedition, but in the presidential chair he would be more optimal. In the position of prime minister he is a hostage of the “collective” in which he is.


    Chu - well, it's generally a comedy !!! A Jew born in Russia is the Prime Minister of Ukraine ... It's kind of like a Chukchi-Georgian dancer of the French ballet :)))))))))))

    He says something in Ukrainian so distorting that sometimes it’s hard to understand ... The authorities in Ukraine are absolutely random people who solve purely their material problems - the best thing they can do is flirt with Russia and the West and get profit from it ... but the trouble is that in the long run, such a policy leads us to one big dead end and may even lead to a split in the country ...
    1. Alexander Petrovich
      Alexander Petrovich 5 December 2012 05: 23
      +1
      Well, not just a split. tell me. Romania does not press on its side? This is Moldavian crushing us.
  30. Magadan
    Magadan 5 December 2012 01: 34
    +3
    I don’t understand why Ukrainians got so hung up on the site! I also did not like the article, but they post different articles, so that we would have something to indulge in.
    And about some mythical hatred of Russians towards Ukrainians - this is all utter nonsense, even reluctance to discuss it! My mother is 100% Ukrainian and the mass of people we have roots in Ukraine. Do we hate ourselves?
    It’s just that Ukraine is not indifferent to us. And we all sincerely worry about what is happening there. We are part of one diseased organism and must be treated together. Forgive her pathos. Of course, we will not discuss here the deep, spiritual problems of any Belgium or England. Because to us they are deep purple.