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Matured, "camouflage" ...

Matured, "camouflage" ...I have long wanted to write about the so-called "veterans" of the Afghan, Chechen and other wars. When I see these mummers in camouflage, parasitizing on the holy feeling for each of us, for some reason, the so-called deaf-mutes are remembered, which still spread out printed products in electric trains and long-distance trains. Young healthy guys mow under those who once saw in the post-war trains. Yes, after the war, thousands of demobilized soldiers walked around the country who could not find themselves in a peaceful life. And then many played the role of "war veterans", which can be judged by the songs of those years - "I was a battalion reconnaissance" and "fascist bullet-villain tore off my ability." How many "children of Lieutenant Schmidt" went around the cities and villages, nobody knows. Like the current number of tax collectors in camouflage, for which he simply props.

Once in the ATS led one such figure. “I was in Chechnya, in the city of Kabul. Or where? Oh! Is Kabul in Afghanistan? Exactly - in Grozny I was in a hot spot, ”he argued, breathing heavily in fume.

So they go fishing, not knowing the name of the country in which he fought and lost his leg-arm.

They take to others - with hysterical voices and words, which are penetrating to the depths of the soul. “People, people, look at me, in front of you is a hero, whom the motherland has forgotten about! Remember, at least you, at least a part of your kindness, donate to me for food! ”Or again:“ This is how the country treats the heroes. And I shed blood for Russia, I lost two legs, eight operations and a complete amputation. Cut off in parts, fifty fragments in the legs were stuck in the chest ... "

Yes, the wars of recent years have crushed a huge number of men with their millstones. Someone died in battles, someone died from injuries in hospitals, someone has heavy marks of fights on his body all his life. Any war is dirt, blood, pain, crippled destinies and psychological breakdowns ... Honor, fame and money are not about them, soldiers and officers. More often - red tape, dishonesty, indifference. There are thousands of disabled people, “Afghans” of 28, and many will tell you how many humiliations they had to endure after the war. But even the pain and emotional wounds pushed on the panel unit.

The doctor of the military hospital told about this case. In the subway car he approached, as it seemed to him, to the former warrior. That one had no legs. He began to talk about the fact that now the prosthesis can be made for free ... But he did not have time to finish it - the invalid with an unprecedented agility rushed to the other end of the car.

But who are these “camouflage”, who, sitting in wheelchairs and demonstrating the absence of limbs, tell “horror stories” about how they served and fought, became cripples, and their own country, whose interests they defended, cannot provide normal treatment and further rehabilitation ?

Yes, there are real people with disabilities among them, only they received their injuries not on the battlefield, but in everyday life, at work or in drunken clashes. Once in the northeast of the capital, the police brought to administrative responsibility a beggar who pretended to be a combatant. And that's what turned out. A certain Alexander Prokhorov arrived in the capital from the Vologda region at the invitation of distant relatives who promised to employ him. His left leg was amputated after he, being intoxicated, spent the night on a December winter evening on the street. In the army, Prokhorov did not serve. The enterprising relatives, without thinking twice, “attached” him to beg, which he did for a long time. Naturally, in camouflage.

Another “veteran” Sergey Moiseenko comes from Kazakhstan. He also lost his right leg along a drunken bench, landing under a tractor caterpillar. In the city he was being kept by some “good” people who brought him by car to “work” every morning and took him to the doss house late in the evening. The reward from the grateful hosts was a meager dinner and a couple glasses of cheap vodka.

In the last year, we note, many “victims of the South Ossetian conflict” appeared: in camouflage and without it, they tell plaintiffs to passersby stories about the night bombing of Tskhinval, the flight from the destroyed city, the lost house and so on. At the Preobrazhenskaya Ploshchad metro station, a legless invalid with an accordion was installed a sign: “Help the victim of Georgian aggression. My house in Tskhinval is destroyed, the family is killed! ”

Among these people have their own "legendary personality." For example, Sergei Prikhodov, nicknamed General. He got his loud nickname when he pulled a wallet from an underling military man in a strip at the Kazan railway station. In prison spent 18 years. For a long time, he traded at three stations. In 1996, he received another prison sentence. When he returned, the orders on Pleshka were completely different. I had to change the "profession". Pickpocketing no longer hunted: they say, and the hands were not the same, and the eye went out. For several years, the General asked for alms on Taganskaya Square. To the compassionate prostitutes, he seems to be an “Afghan”. To be convincing, I wrapped my leg every morning with a dirty bandage and took a crutch with me. Passers-by told incredible stories about how, under Kandahar, he was surrounded, wounded and saved the regimental flag. People, believing the fake warrior, filed. Where is now the General, I can not say.

Here is a recently seen picture. Four good young men in camouflage and blue berets were singing in the subway car a hysterical song about the harsh everyday life of a soldier in the distant Afghan region, where bullets whistle and evil Mujahideen ring less and less ...

As for the veterans of Afghanistan, it seemed strange, since the youngest fighters who marched through Kandahar and Hindu Kush are now in their forties. None of the quartet at this age is not pulled.

It was lunchtime, because at rush hour in a crowded carriages a large team would not make it. But for some reason, the strong guys were not at work, but on the subway, with a guitar ... I admit, they didn’t evoke compassion on their beer stomachs and far from emaciated faces. But everyone relied on the wand, painstakingly portraying a war invalid, and the guys sang with a soul, in general, they were given money. The funds, as the tablet testified, were intended to help the families of the victims. However, an attempt to talk with them about the affairs of the noble was perceived in hostility. Although it seemed that they hide? Apparently, the "smell" of charity was with a scent.

I do not want to talk about the image of the octopus, which has gotten the edge of the octopus, which is called the "mafia of the poor," pulling the tentacles to the wallets of pitiful citizens. It's about something else. Those who serve tomorrow, their parents and acquaintances look at these false veterans. And they think: why? So that, having returned a cripple, can you make your way along the aisle in a crowded subway car? Others, looking at a “serviceman” person, think with disdain about the army, which threw the “waste material” overboard of life. And indeed, is it really a miserable pension and an iron mug for alms - that's all that yesterday’s defenders of the Fatherland can count on?

It is hardly necessary to appeal to the conscience of the "veterans" who have begun to foul in our shameless time.

What did the Russian Orthodox Church do when people dressed in cassocks flooded subway cars and crossings? In August, 2000, the Bishops' Council of the Russian Orthodox Church issued a special definition: “In conditions when priestly and monastic clothes are sometimes used by fraudsters, the council considered it inadmissible to collect donations by clergymen and monastics in public places ...”

How many today see mummers in robes? What is not the result?

Real disabled people who really need our mercy are usually invisible in the city bustle. They stand modestly on the sidelines, silently beg, silently starving and just silently die.

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  1. alexng
    alexng 3 December 2012 11: 48
    Yes, let them forgive me here on the forum, but I give only to the musicians and then only for the fact that they work (sing, play some instrument).
    Once the truth was submitted to one beggar, but only because he told the truth what he needed the money for - he got sober, and did not invent all kinds of stories there.
    1. YARY
      YARY 3 December 2012 12: 53
      Uv Alexander light Ivanovich!
      Since 2000 I will never again serve the musician or any minister of Melpomene!
      But in 99% of cases, having suspicions that I am being fooled, I'll give a cripple in uniform.
      Maybe it will fall to the righteous? And the false will be counseled (?) Until the cops rake in?
      This is my personal attitude.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 3 December 2012 19: 35
        Stunned, just recently in my country (USSR) it was impossible to find beggars in the afternoon with fire, and now the two gold-laden authors of this site are discussing for granted who to serve, and to whom it is not worth it!
      2. Ghenxnumx
        Ghenxnumx 3 December 2012 20: 44
        Quote: Ardent
        Maybe it will fall to the righteous? And the false will be counseled (?) Until the cops rake in?
        This is my personal attitude.

        Mine is diametrically opposite, since I know a lot of people who will not go around the world with an outstretched hand, after the "hardships and hardships of military service," although there were all the conditions ...
        But the issue in the article is seriously affected, only it must be resolved not here, but at the federal level and on state television.
  2. patriot2
    patriot2 3 December 2012 11: 50
    I myself am disabled, but I never get up with outstretched hand. Spasobo - is there a pension, small or not - that the state has rolled away from its generosity to the one who served for the good of the country. Thanks for that. Well, I work, as far as possible and according to ability. I don’t use and don’t take.
    1. bask
      bask 3 December 2012 13: 32
      It is necessary to disabled local wars .. Equal rights with veterans of the Great Patriotic War. These are the defenders of one Motherland ... And you can’t separate them ... Then the question of ,, mummers ”will disappear, but even these disabled people should not be left in trouble. And give normal for retirement living And who makes begging to do .. themselves disabled, let them stay in the shoes of, sick people ...
      1. Manager
        Manager 3 December 2012 14: 44
        Quote: bask

        It is necessary for disabled local wars .. Equal rights with veterans of the Great Patriotic War

        It's high time, considering that the real WWII Veterans left a man 10 -15 for the whole country. (I exaggerate, but the meaning is clear)
        1. alexng
          alexng 3 December 2012 15: 07
          Quote: Manager
          It's high time, considering that the real WWII Veterans left a man 10 -15 for the whole country. (I exaggerate, but the meaning is clear)

          In the districts, somewhere the 10-15 will happen, and then the jambs happen - they really cannot provide them with everything necessary and what they deserve, warm attention. Sometimes we act like ungrateful rubbish.
    2. Odessa
      Odessa 3 December 2012 15: 12
      I myself am disabled, but I never get up with outstretched hand. Spasobo - is there a pension, small or not - that the state has rolled away from its generosity to the one who served for the good of the country. Thanks for that. Well, I work, as far as possible and according to ability. I don’t use and don’t take.

      This guy in the photo says exactly the same. He will not tell everyone that he is a war veteran. And the worst thing is that he decided to arm himself for self-defense, and stumbled on a whole bunch of bureaucratic clashes, even that he must bring paper, that he knows how to use weapons, this is generally insanity.
      1. YARY
        YARY 3 December 2012 16: 46
        Uw Esther.
        Knowing our bureaucrats and the enemies of the people of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it was necessary to collect iron at the duty station.
        A zealous landlord and louse are involved. And the primus in stock will always come in handy.
        1. omsbon
          omsbon 3 December 2012 18: 52
          Andrew, what kind of thieves' jargon? Somehow unexpectedly.
          * primus gun
          1. YARY
            YARY 3 December 2012 22: 23
            Namesake for you, here it is "Primus"
            1. omsbon
              omsbon 4 December 2012 01: 03
              Andrey, I've been running around with such a "primus"! I look and feel nostalgic !!!
              Primitive is a pistol in thieves' jargon. Spock nights.
    3. Yura
      Yura 3 December 2012 18: 29
      At the beginning of the XNUMXs, Vitya worked with us from a neighboring village, and so his son returned from the hospital without a leg, which he lost in Chechnya, and our Vitya drank black, drank at work so that his wife and son would not see, he drank and was silent, drank and was silent, for three days it lasted and then, then a prosthesis was ordered, the guy entered and graduated from university in absentia, studied and got a driver's license, now he works, drives his car, got married, Vitya is my friend, retired, but still turns the steering wheel of a timber truck. So, five or six years after that, I went to visit my children in St. Petersburg, I was traveling by train in the subway, and suddenly a loud, well-placed voice says "good people" and further in the text, there is no camouflage, I’m in my pocket for money , this one stopped next to him waiting, and then I remembered my friend and his son, I felt embarrassed in front of them like shit, I didn’t give it that time and then I didn’t give it, although after that everyone was nasty in my soul.
  3. smel
    smel 3 December 2012 11: 55
    I am disgusted by drivers who feed with handouts of various beggars on the road and at intersections. They, these good-natured drivers, are preparing a problem for their colleagues - for such a beggar will sooner or later fall under the wheels of an innocent driver
    1. starpom
      starpom 3 December 2012 20: 17
      Quote: smel
      Drivers disgust me

      See which cars are served. It feels like sins beg
  4. Mikado
    Mikado 3 December 2012 11: 59
    They themselves are sitting in the transitions in the city themselves, then, in the evening, their gypsies take everyone to their house. They have them, hike, live and work for food and vodka. Previously, they always gave them a trifle when they walked from the store, and after noticing that they took a minimum of five kopecks, and left the kopeck piece and simple rubles (not to mention penny coins), they stopped giving money.
  5. andrei. 2012
    andrei. 2012 3 December 2012 12: 13
    Yes, a lot of beggars. But it’s better to file 10 times not by going past 1 person in need. And condemn .......
  6. vlad tanks
    vlad tanks 3 December 2012 13: 48
    I don’t give it to anyone.
  7. taseka
    taseka 3 December 2012 14: 27
    And where are the uncles of the policemen, whose task is to remove them, then kickbacks are in effect! Now almost all directors of meat processing plants have also become generals, of which international security associations are there, and what else is there !!! Mummers - I despise both those and others !!!
  8. Manager
    Manager 3 December 2012 14: 49
    Issue the law. For each handout, a fine in the form of money is 100 times more than the handout itself. Serve only food, clothing, shoes.
    Then, in a year or two, all these false beggars will disappear. And the rest of the real poor go to live in shelters for the homeless and monasteries.
    With regards to veterans and these people with disabilities, in my entire life I have not seen a veteran of military operations begging for a disabled person. Their character is not the same.
  9. WW3
    WW3 3 December 2012 15: 04
    I have long wanted to write about the so-called "veterans" of the Afghan, Chechen and other wars.

    To the author of the "+" I will add a photo below ... pay attention to the awards, shoulder straps by itself ...

    1. Manager
      Manager 3 December 2012 15: 08
      Of course I respect age, but I so want on Channel 1 to let such veterans lie like a laugh
      1. WW3
        WW3 3 December 2012 15: 11
        The scandal with fake war veterans is gaining momentum in the blogosphere. Demand for the services of these holiday characters in Russia has grown significantly, and so Victory Day is gradually turning into veteran cosplay ... The youngest front-line soldier now is a person aged 85 years and older. In Russia, only about 200 thousand men are now of this age. Moreover, not all of them fought at the front or even simply served in the army ...

        It is worth mentioning in advance that formally in the Russian Federation - according to the Ministry of Health and Social Development, about 3,4 million veterans of the Great Patriotic War live. Of these, over 1 million are over 85 years old.

        According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in 2010 there were about 400 thousand veterans and invalids of the Second World War in the country. According to the decree of the President of the Russian Federation dated May 7, 2008 No. 714 “On providing housing for veterans of the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945” by the end of 2011 it was necessary to provide free housing for more than 236 thousand veterans (162 thousand veterans actually received apartments).

        The disagreement in numbers, of course, is wild, as is the cult of the Victory Day, which is fostered by the Soviet-Russian authorities, which is celebrated under the Vlasov tricolor in the colony of the Fourth Reich. Most Russians do not quite understand how the Great Patriotic War veteran differs from the front-line soldier, which is what the Kremlin PR specialists and simple crooks use.

        Recall that the youngest front-line soldier now is a person aged 85 (in a good way - 86 years) years and older. In Russia, only about 200 thousand men are now of this age. However, not all of them fought at the front or even simply served in the army. Therefore, peppy 65-70-year-old uncles and aunts who strum medals “For Courage” and the capture of Budapest in an obvious way have nothing to do with events at the front.
        Here is the same granny ...
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 3 December 2012 15: 44
          Quote: WW3

          You are absolutely right, there are very, very few real front-line soldiers. I have a father in 1928, naturally not a front-line soldier, but his older brother of 1926, called up in 1944, fought in Romania, now he is no longer alive. The last military appeal of 1927, and then not all veterans, they are now 85.
          1. Roman Skomorokhov
            Roman Skomorokhov 3 December 2012 16: 46
            WW3, Respect. I fucked malekho from such material. This is worse than glum.

            I will tell you such a story. It was in 2005 year.
            You know, in the early 2000s there was such a program, Putin gave "Okushki" invalids to veterans. So I worked part-time by helping to draw up documents, only in Voronezh there were about 500 pieces per region. Well, as always, it was necessary to distribute them a month before May. And, as usual, with us, they informed everyone at once. Well, they all began to come. we made out 30-40 cars a day, and there was a bunch of papers, because they went free of charge. we plowed from 8 to the stop, because when a person arrives 200-300 km away, no one raised his hand to send him empty-handed. They sat until the last. You should have seen it all. Those years were still in the yard, the veterans had lost the habit of the normal attitude. Nevermind.
            I wrote down addresses and phone numbers of many veterans, as I wanted to continue to communicate. I had a large base, there were two Heroes, three full holders of the Order of Glory, I scored 93 people in total. I got a lot of information from them, and now I use it slowly. About "Crushing" I just learned from the sailor from "Karl Liebknecht".
            In May 2011, the last of mine died. Everything.
  10. sergo0000
    sergo0000 3 December 2012 15: 24
    The 90s gave birth to a lot of Guimplen. I hate only those who are miserable under the guise of form! We have no such glory in God in the North.
    There are veterans, sometimes decent drunks, but in order to beg for money! Do not stoop to this!
    And if such a one appeared, then I think the first and last time.
    Almost all of them are provided with housing and quietly ferment in their apartments. Everyone usually has a pension and extra income!
    In general, we have a very good organization of WWII veterans and local conflicts. Almost no one is forgotten, neither friends nor the state.
  11. MG42
    MG42 3 December 2012 15: 42
    In Ukraine, medals and orders of the Second World War are freely sold by flea dealers.
  12. Comrade1945
    Comrade1945 3 December 2012 16: 36
    Mouth Front.
    A little off topic, but nevertheless I will say something about myself:
    I always give money only to those who play something in transitions or just on the street. And in fact, it does not matter how a person lives, whether he really needs or fun for the sake of, as they say.
    Indeed, if he plays, and even plays not badly, or maybe even good at all, and if he also plays the button accordion, it’s a sin not to toss a coin, I think.
  13. Indigo
    Indigo 3 December 2012 16: 51
    I always give money to a woman who is on the accordion near the monument to the Soviet Soldier in the center of the Bandera - Stry Lviv Region, for the Soldier plays Farewell Slavyanka ....
  14. VadimSt
    VadimSt 3 December 2012 17: 01
    In general, it is hard to believe that all these "mummers", including the "mummers of the Cossack atamans", have no legislative administration. Another thing is that it is "unprofitable" for the police (militia) to deal with this issue. Yes, and this problem has long roots and its development in modern history.

    In the USSR, there was a system of targeted assistance - shops and pharmacies, for services at set prices and an assortment of veterans, the disabled and large families. Why, in due time, distorted the whole point of veteran organizations - do not we remember duty-free trade in alcohol, allocation of land, etc. What did this give directly to veterans?

    What prevents the state from solving this problem once and for all, excluding private structures? Why, only private structures are profitable, but not for the state? Probably the calculation of costs for such centers will be "unprofitable" for the officials. This also applies to private structures that are involved in serving troops (such as "Oboronservis", etc.). State structures will be many times cheaper, and most importantly, completely controlled. Really nobody realizes that all this is created only as a "feeding trough".

    Why, in the Russian Empire, there was a structure of the Cossack troops defined by law. It was a state structure, not a "public organization". Soon, in some settlements, there will be more "legitimate" chieftains than free Cossacks.

    The parade of buffoons and inveterate scammers must be stopped.
  15. zadotov
    zadotov 3 December 2012 17: 50
    If a man without legs is fucked with me, what does he say for the sake of his survival, and if he is also alone ... In our country, pensioners with legs live not smartly. And what do I care what he says and what his gypsies carry, you will not carry it. This is a harmless lie to save. To save his life, the author of this article will not do it yet, but they will survive. The Russian people have always served and no one is asking to give to peppy old women. But without legs and arms, even though he I’ll put on a cassock, but if not, go silently and don’t rush a garden.
  16. Bort radist
    Bort radist 3 December 2012 18: 16
    Once, a grandmother in Krasnoyarsk asked - there wasn’t enough bread, and cried. Of course he did. She cried from having to ask. It was in the 90s I still remember. All other cases turned out to be fuck cheating. I try not to serve anyone.
  17. suharev-52
    suharev-52 3 December 2012 18: 23
    To serve or not to serve is a personal matter for everyone. Sincerely.
    1. Starksa
      Starksa 3 December 2012 19: 21
      if you don’t file accordingly and there will be no beggars, here is the solution. and as long as people serve there will be beggars
      1. Comrade1945
        Comrade1945 3 December 2012 20: 18
        and as long as people serve there will be beggars

        If we are talking about street musicians, then this is a good thing.
  18. Black
    Black 3 December 2012 20: 54
    To give or not to give is a matter of each individual's conscience, everything depends on upbringing, life experiences, on whether a person believes that "the hand of the giver will not fail." Serve, do not give, there is nothing to boast about!
    However, the article is not about that at all.
  19. bart74
    bart74 3 December 2012 23: 30
    Serve only to musicians. All the rest: disguised and "camouflaged" in no case. All organizations of Afghan and Chechen veterans declare - let all those who ask come to us - we will help them! All the rest are beggars and mummers who parasitize on our feelings! Two pluses to the author for bringing up such a difficult topic - once, and two - for writing it down so clearly! EVERY CHARITY SHOULD BE ADDRESSABLE, otherwise it's just a way - TAKE MY MONEY AND OT * BIS! If you have free money, find out from your family, friends and relatives how and how to help them. If there is enough free money for the world, first help orphans, spotr schools, in general, those for whom the future of your and your country is.
    PS: for six years now, our director and I have been patronizing the orphanage. This already brings its dividends, the company employs two girls and a guy from sponsored. They work well. Here is such CHARITY.
  20. 123dv
    123dv 4 December 2012 00: 22
    The worst crime they commit, in an effort to get a handout.
    They kill our FAITH, burn our hearts. They make us cynics, calculating crackers. We, who with such a sincere desire, are always ready to help.

    A very painful science, to distinguish a lie from a sincere call for help.
    But let your hearts not harden.
  21. s1н7т
    s1н7т 4 December 2012 01: 32
    Hidden advertising of the Russian Orthodox Church? laughing
    I saw nothing more. And when I met an operating sister from the hospital in the market in the 90s, she traded in small things. How many lives did she save ?! But she herself must live! ... In my opinion, there is an article about nothing.