They won’t last on teleservice: the West is ready to send technical personnel to Ukraine

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They won’t last on teleservice: the West is ready to send technical personnel to Ukraine

Service centers for APU


Now the technicians of the Ukrainian armed forces are experiencing a real renaissance. This caste is crystallizing into true universal soldiers, whom the Ukrainian Armed Forces must protect like the apple of their eye. This is indirectly confirmed by the lack of photo and video evidence of repair or maintenance of new Western equipment. The Ukrainians are afraid to even approximately disclose the location of repair bases - this will immediately become a priority target for the Russians. missiles and kamikaze UAVs.

A successful blow to send two birds with one stone to the next world at once - armored vehicles for that very counteroffensive and, no less important, technical specialists for servicing NATO equipment. Over the past year, it was they who turned into the "white bone" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Technicians have to work with both old Soviet-made models and modern machines made in Ukraine and NATO products. If the first two categories are distinguished by maintainability and unpretentiousness in maintenance, then foreign equipment has always required a special approach. Combining two opposing technical concepts in one repair box is, as it is fashionable to say now, skills of a critical level.



But do not overestimate the Ukrainian technical specialists - at the moment they can do a lot, but not all of them cope with their duties. For different reasons. Someone disappears under the blows of the Russian army, someone does not know English, and someone simply does not live up to the level.

This is why the Americans have still not delivered to Ukraine what is perhaps the most difficult to maintain танк modern times – Abrams. One vehicle requires the work of more than a hundred contractors, repairmen and logisticians. Otherwise, the battle chariot will remain a monument to American aid to the Kyiv regime.






Plant "Bumar-Labendy"

But problems are being solved.

First of all, due to service centers in Eastern Europe. The Poles were especially successful in this - the Bumar-Labendy plant will soon accept Leopards of the second series for repair and maintenance. Prior to this, the enterprise was actively restoring the T-72 of the Ukrainian army. This strongly resembles the situation with the "Tigers" in the Great Patriotic War, when the Germans had to send armored cats deep into the rear for complex repairs.

The situation is even worse for the Ukrainian Armed Forces – from Gliwice, where the repair plant is located, to Kharkov there are almost one and a half thousand kilometers. Not a small distance, it should be noted. And so it is with almost all NATO equipment – ​​artillery systems, complexes Defense and light armored vehicles. The game already includes the Czech Republic, Romania, Slovakia and Lithuania. Now local technicians are preparing to accept the famous T-64 for repair and restoration. One can only sympathize - the tank engines 5TDF and 6TD alone are worth something.

In any case, the presence of repair bases for enemy equipment plays into the hands of the Russian army. As a result, the enemy loses in operational mobility and the density of fire in certain directions.

Among the well-known examples is the wear of the German PzH 2000 howitzers, which is too fast by Western standards. The vehicles were simply not prepared for such intensive use, and therefore they go west for repairs more often than planned. This, by the way, once again confirms the need for the speedy destruction of all crossings across the Dnieper. Entire bridges not only allow the unhindered transfer of all calibers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but also take the equipment for repairs. It’s just that greenhouse conditions for military operations have been created by the Ukrainian army, you can’t say anything.

In Ukraine, there is also a second maintenance channel now operating, built around videoconferencing or “teleservice”. Critical systems such as Javelin or HIMARS have to be repaired via Skype. This is not an easy matter. It is necessary to find a technically savvy translator, as well as ensure that the consultant on the other end of the line is completely immersed in the problem.

Alexander Vindman, a retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel, commented:

“Anyone who says that Ukrainians are fine with remote service is lying to themselves.”

Probably, they impose restrictions and secrecy regime for individual equipment and nodes. It is not always possible for a secret carrier to disclose the details of repairs, for example, of the Challenger 2 fire control system, through an online messenger. The tank will have to be put on a trawl and sent deep into the rear of Europe - most likely, even Poland does not have the appropriate equipment and personnel.

New legitimate targets


In the West, the idea of ​​admitting technical specialists to the territory of Ukraine to service new tanks, MLRS, howitzers and other exhibits of the NATO zoo is gradually being promoted. At the end of April, several American publications and one of the key newsmakers of the Kyiv regime, Defense Minister Reznikov, started talking about this at once. He stated in particular:

“I am sure that our partners could hire such specialists, and we will do our best to arrange their visit to Ukraine. We have long been offering our partners assistance in providing maintenance as close as possible to the battlefield ... If specialists came here with access to the necessary documents, it would help a lot.”

There are several interesting findings here.

In Ukraine, they clearly cannot cope with the flow weapons and technology, despite their own gold-handed specialists. And this, of course, is good. Especially in light of the offensive, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine still cannot start. If it is nevertheless organized, the flow of faulty and damaged equipment will increase many times over. So Reznikov is worried - who will repair the resulting rubbish? In the mentioned Gliwice you can’t carry much.

The second conclusion is that the West is getting closer and closer to direct participation in the Ukrainian-Russian conflict. Not only by the supply of weapons, but by the deployment of technical personnel, "as close as possible to the battlefield." Words that hundreds and even thousands of NATO repairmen are ready to go to Ukraine within a couple of hours, one has to take their word for it. Still, the military technical intelligentsia cannot be compared with the neo-Nazi rabble that is now fighting in Ukraine as mercenaries. But there is rhetoric in the camp of the enemy about this.

US Army Colonel Vindman, in an interview with Newsweek, reveals a possible scenario. In his opinion, Ukraine has already formed a certain immunity to Russian missile attacks and drones. As soon as carriers of high-precision weapons rise into the air, American intelligence transmits this information to the leadership of Ukraine in real time. Even if nationalists have accumulated in one of the rear units, they instantly disperse upon an air raid signal. That is, everything here depends on the reaction time and discipline of the responsible structures of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Vindman further comments:

“It is possible to distribute the operations of technical personnel so that the Russians cannot target large concentrations of specialists. Then, in the places where contractors are present, maintain military discipline and use high-tech Ukrainian early warning systems. This can allow technicians to protect themselves any time there are potential incoming threats."

Vindman apparently forgot about missiles that cannot be launched from aircraft, for example, the Iskander-M. This "incoming threat" is very difficult to detect at the moment of combat deployment and even more difficult to dodge. But let's leave this on the conscience of a retired colonel chasing media fame.

Is it worth spending an expensive supersonic missile on a bunch of NATO techies? The question does not require an answer and explanation.

But the fact remains that the West is seriously thinking about the direct involvement of military personnel or civilian technical staff in the course of a special operation on the territory of Ukraine. This is a clear signal for escalation and should not be ignored. Somewhere in Washington and Brussels, they clearly considered that the potential of the Russian army and the logic of our response would no longer be sufficient? You have to dissuade.
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  1. +9
    5 May 2023 05: 38
    Of course, NATO techies should be a priority target ... a specialist capable of repairing Abrams or Leopard is better to see in the grave than at the repair base of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    It is very important to neutralize NATO's surveillance systems for our high-precision missile launches.
    The NWO is in full swing...the enemy is preparing more and more surprises for us.
    1. +5
      5 May 2023 07: 00
      As a rule, the enemy leaks information much later than the decisions / deliveries of weapons, sometimes the time lag is 2-3 months. This means that repair centers are already being organized. There are suspicions that ground services for the F-15/16 are immediately being deployed. In the meantime, we are informed about the discussion. That is, when they announce the decision made, everything will already be at the stage of completion.
      1. -1
        6 May 2023 19: 50
        Training on the F-16 has been going on since the summer of 2022 at American bases in Germany.
  2. +9
    5 May 2023 05: 41
    Repairing something remotely is a fiction and a utopia ... I myself often encountered such a canoe. There, the point is not that the specialist is not catching up, there is no "full immersion in the problem", but that the wrong thing is being shown to him. Roughly, he is being tortured on the topic - the engine will not start. Fur-fur, and stalls. Everyone begins to torment the engine, and the whole problem is that gasoline was diluted with donkey urine, but who will say that? This is how they will sit, deal with the ignition. The eternal problem of technical support remotely, classic
    1. +5
      5 May 2023 05: 46
      Exactly. Maybe there they also "corrected the sight with a sledgehammer, tapped" (c) sharovarnye, but they don't admit it either. Or climbed into which block to tweak the settings quickly.

      PS Although, for example, we changed the detector on the Anglo-American spectrometer with the help of remote technical support. They simply sent us a document, where the points were written in what order what to unscrew, how to drown out part of the vacuum system, how to disconnect-attach what, etc. Nothing - we did it. But that was a long time ago, before the start of the NWO. Now their technical support threw us - like a sanction.

      By the way, I don’t know how with modern military equipment, our spectrometer could be connected to the Internet and their technical support could remotely diagnose through the central electronic control unit of the spectrometer. So to say, diagnostics and troubleshooting to make. Well, now we don’t connect this matter - otherwise, these infections will remotely cut down the equipment and the spectrometer will “turn into a pumpkin” (c)
      1. +3
        5 May 2023 06: 29
        Quote: Nexcom
        . They just sent us a document, where the points were written

        Gee) So, too, they do not always know what to write. I once faced such a canoe. I remember it for the rest of my life) Mobile satellite communication, everything is working separately, it does not plow in the kit, I went through all the documentation - zero sense. It turned out, damn it ... Well, Canadians are not called "American suckers" for nothing - they also have everything through ... How could it be possible to calibrate the frequency in dekahertz, and not mention it anywhere separately? Have you ever met with a unit of 10Hz? Hertz, kilohertz, megahertz - everyone knows, but dekahertz?!!! I probably chatted with Canada for about 2 hours before I knocked this information out of them, well, they are used to working specifically IN THIS company in dekahertz, is it normal to set the frequency, for example, to 10 GHz in tens? 1000000000 dHz... Why then not Hertz? And in general, by and large, they miraculously got to the bottom of what the problem was, a real employee of this office on the spot would simply drive the frequency in dozens without question.
        PC: and before I got there, the installation was lying around for a year and a half in a warehouse - no one knew English enough to put their technical support on the phone like cancer laughing The situation is extremely delusional, then the satellites only appeared, it cost a lot, and lay dead
        1. +3
          5 May 2023 10: 34
          I have the opposite situation, everything worked like clockwork, because I knew English, I didn’t speak, but I read the necessary technical documentation freely. It seemed to someone that everything is very simple, since everything works. Arguments that a group of friendly and good guys without knowledge of technical English would not replace me did not have any effect. The equipment finally stopped.
          And with digital communications, even satellite, it is usually clear where the bottleneck is. There everything is by levels and stages, like: no carrier, no synchronization, no cycle, a signal about a malfunction of the opposite side has been received, etc. And there are also some unusual types of modulation and coding and the channels are quite narrow, low-bandwidth, even one dish had to be serviced.
          1. +2
            5 May 2023 12: 22
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            Everything is there by levels and stages, such as: no carrier

            Why not? It’s just that on the mobile the control is intercepted by the antenna orientation software unit, but it is calibrated exactly in dB, and please - the manually tuned antenna plows lovely, you cut the mobile orientation unit - there is no carrier, sit and think why, in the technical documentation no gu-gu
          2. +2
            5 May 2023 19: 23
            Arguments that a group of friendly and good guys without knowledge of technical English would not replace me did not have any effect. The equipment finally stopped.
            The age-old confidence of modern "English experts" that if they were given a beautiful piece of paper and they understand the standard dialogues in moronic American films, then they already know a foreign language. Repeatedly faced with this, especially in democratic times.
            1. 0
              16 May 2023 00: 35
              You know, I taught English at RUDN) I remember I had such a funny student) He has been in Britain since the age of 7, he is completely sure that they say "you can teach me something." The only problem is that he does not speak, but "bazzles". Slang, Cockney English. Well, he is also from the thieves. The only one of my students whom I did not allow before the exam. After that, I generally went nuts with delight - this monster asked me - "How much do you need for a signature?" Well, that is, he did not understand at all. He still got the milestone, did not pass, but bought, well, the holy 90s.
  3. +5
    5 May 2023 05: 44
    Nothing, Poles, "a mad hyena 1500 km is not a detour" (c). Our guys will provide you with work - you will saw and repair the lined .....
  4. +3
    5 May 2023 05: 52
    Where techies there and fighters will appear. Red pencils should be canceled - they want to destroy us, the French were stunned to the edge, and we are talking about peace, friendship. We are given once a year glass beads in exchange for our resources.
  5. +1
    5 May 2023 06: 50
    So they should be a priority target for us.
  6. +2
    5 May 2023 07: 05
    No, what's wrong with the enemy's actions? Do we have to shout from every corner where equipment and weapons are repaired and stored? And what's funny about that? It's not a sin to adopt a few things from our enemy if it helps defeat him. The ability to camouflage, set false targets, disperse, etc. And of course, to tighten the fight against chatterboxes and not very smart people who, out of "good intentions," reveal military and other information that helps the enemy.
    1. +1
      5 May 2023 10: 40
      There is something wrong with our actions. In my opinion, railway junctions, bridges, and even more so the defense industry should be bombarded daily, and factories should be destroyed in general, demilitarization should take place.
  7. +1
    5 May 2023 07: 27
    By the way, this is how Vietnam and Afghanistan began. But now the situation is different. The development of the situation can become more fun
  8. +1
    5 May 2023 14: 57
    This, by the way, once again confirms the need for the speedy destruction of all crossings across the Dnieper.

    So who's stopping the military? The FSB seems to be eating its bread in vain.
  9. +2
    5 May 2023 21: 00
    I would say militarily and materially.. it would be wise to specifically target western specialists.
    other wise they will never feel anything.
  10. +1
    6 May 2023 09: 31
    “I am sure that our partners could hire such specialists, and we will do our best to arrange their visit to Ukraine. We have long been offering our partners assistance in providing maintenance as close as possible to the battlefield ... If specialists came here with access to the necessary documents, it would help a lot.”
    It depends on what to repair, armored vehicles or someone's mentality using the analogy with the repair of armored vehicles. Particularly curious are the methods of repair through the messengers Viber, Telegramm, Whatsapp, as well as conferencing programs such as Skype, Teamspeak. For example, many representatives of the general Ukrainian public used Twitter before, until the above-mentioned American social network was subjected to a personnel purge with the replacement of work protocols, thus repairing something through the above network became less effective. "Remontiniki" in the person of politicians from Ukraine and Europe are unlikely to be able to change their personal protocols of behavior, because then they will have to experience the retribution of the general public. For example, at the moment the general public in France is trying to produce
    a major overhaul of its outdated model of building society and clarifying the front line in the party between the business elite and the people of France, as well as the migrants from the Middle East and North Africa (potential electorate and cheap labor without the participation of trade unions). The result of the work carried out is promising...
  11. -1
    22 October 2023 10: 16
    "zzTeyyukhnicheskikh specialists." I am an international lawyer and I don’t know.
    In my opinion - direct participation in hostilities