They plan to appoint a pilot from the Falcons of Russia

RIA News. Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force, Lieutenant-General Viktor Bondarev intends to appoint the pilot of the other aerobatics group “Falcons of Russia” from Lipetsk aviation center Maxim Musatov to be the new commander of the Swifts aerobatic team.

Earlier it was reported that in the beginning of October a criminal case was opened against the commander of the Strizhy aerobatic team Valeriy Morozov. According to investigators, he allegedly demanded money from his subordinates for a free schedule of visits to the service. The Ministry of Defense 12 November, without waiting for the end of the investigation, dismissed Morozov "for non-compliance with the terms of the contract." The lieutenant colonel appealed against his dismissal in court.

The most likely candidate for the post of commander "Swifts" was called Major Maxim Musatov 1979, born. A military pilot of the first class from the composition of another group of aerobatics "Falcons of Russia" from the Lipetsk aviation center.

"Well, it has not yet been appointed, and only the Minister of Defense can be appointed by order, therefore, not yet. Yes, I plan to appoint Major Musatov," the commander told reporters during his visit to Voronezh.

Musatov in 2002 graduated from the Krasnodar military aviation institute. During the service he mastered the aircraft L-39, MiG-29, Su-27 and Su-30. The total flying time on these types of aircraft is more than a thousand hours.

Married, has three children. Awarded the medal of Nesterov.

"Strizhi" is an aerobatic flight group of the Russian Air Force, formed in 1991, which performs group and single aerobatics on MiG-29 fighters.

Comments

[YARY]

Article negative BULO ALREADY!

[Lissyara]

Maybe I have something with my memory, but it seems that this topic has already been "washed" here on the site.
In general, it is clear that they decided to quietly hush up the Morozov case. As the people had predicted, the systematic "collapse" and the dragging of the Swifts under the Lipetsk wing began.

[VAF]

Quote: LiSSyara

As the people had predicted, the systematic "collapse" and dragging of the Swifts under the Lipetsk wing began.

Seryoga, hello, you're 100% right. And what is interesting ...... the "conflict" with Sulim in Lipetsk was "extinguished" by Bondarev .... "extinguished" and once .. already the Commander-in-Chief, God forbid, of course, if I feel a bit, but he does something too often. " appears "on the horizon there .... where does not seem to be his place?
Now, if he stood up like a mountain for his subordinate, it would be pont, but here ..... does the "instructions" of the stool and hedgehog with him?

[Lissyara]

"and then ..... does the" instructions "of the stool and hedgehog with him?"
Serge,
the impression is that Viktor Nikolaich's "inertia" is strong. As if during the run from the lane, do not jump off.

[VAF]

Quote: LiSSyara

the impression is that Viktor Nikolaich's "inertia" is strong. As if during the run from the lane, do not jump off.

Well, yes ..... "don't take care of the brakes on the end of the strip, and fuck ... lyu for old age"

[Armata]

Quote: vaf

Seryoga, hi, you're right on everything 100%

Hi guys. I don’t know what’s going on there, you’ll be so stupid for what kind of gestures and what happened to Valery?

[VAF]

Quote: Mechanic

shoot for the stupid what kind of gestures and what happened to Valery?

Hi Zhenya! Such news, initiated a case, but the articles were not voiced, they are charged with illegal requisitions, well, I wrote below below, that's all for now.
A new commander is appointed to Swifts and deputy from Lipetsk, and two of the group are sent to Bebsk, seemingly to help create a group in the Yak-130s!

[Vadivak]

Quote: LiSSyara

In general, it is clear that they decided to hush Morozov’s case quietly

It seems that the president was told that the commander of the Swifts was framed and there was no answer. Musatov is a good man - he is an aerobatic pilot himself - he was the tail pilot of the Falcons of Russia and the Swifts know him, but time will tell, but Osyaykin seems to remain

[VAF]

Quote: Vadivak

"Swifts" know him, but time will tell, but Osyaikin seems to remain

Vadim, so it’s so but .... I have another info on the account of Osyaykin and .. the other guys ..... so, as you say ... time will tell

[Vadivak]

Quote: vaf

I have another info on the account of Osyaykin

Well then, there will be no Swifts, I understand when Serdyukov s.uka Karimov Suleiman Abusaidovich forgive him Allah Kubinka sold in parts, Swifts interfered, apparently now some kind of deal is brewing

[alexng]

Oh guys, something is creeping in for a long time. Probably it was necessary to immediately slam all the henchmen of Taburetkin until they made an impassable windbreak.

[s1н7т]

Quote: Vadivak

was the tail slave of the Sokolov of Russia

Well, enough, apparently, to steer the Swifts!

[VAF]

Quote: c1n7

Well, enough, apparently, to steer the Swifts!

I can’t judge the level of training ... I don’t know, but I know for sure that Swifts have their own ready-made products for a long time!

[VAF]

Quote: LiSSyara

As the people had predicted, the systematic "collapse" and dragging of the Swifts under the Lipetsk wing began.

Seryoga, and I still knew them like that ..... in all its glory

[Alex 241]

....................................

[bremest]

The army under Serdyukov became even more disordered, and if all the facts about extortion are not linden, then this does not paint Morozov. On the other hand, there is a law, there is a law, as it were, it would not be a shame for our Air Force ....

[KRAVEN333]

Why write about it again?

[sleepy]

Quote: KRAVEN333
"Why write about it again?"

The commander of the Swifts aerobatic team Valery Morozov was set up. It is already directly discussed that the matter is in Kubinka and money, big money. Perhaps already paid for by someone and spent for themselves.

Why write about it again?
To be remembered. So many forgetful and forgiving. Forgot and forgiven the 90s and their representatives?

Stepan Sulakshin. Treason.
http://lib.ru/POLITOLOG/sulakshin.txt

"The draft budget for 98 is only 97% of the budget for 70.
The priorities of the budget policy of Yeltsin and all his governments are visible.
They are stable from year to year.
1. Destroy the statehood of Russia.
Further undermine production, the real sector.
2. Gather new debts abroad.
Disarm Russia. Build a pyramid, GKO (the state turned into a sort of Mavrodi)
3. To extinguish, suppress the social protest of citizens by gagging handouts.

Now it's time to admit. We are faced with a new GULAG - the Yeltsin economic GULAG.
Here is the evidence that confirms these words.
Fertility per thousand people fell from 14,1 to 8,9.
This means that up to 800 thousand Russians are not artificially born annually in the country.
Mortality increased from 9,2 to 14,7.
This means that about 800 thousand Russians die prematurely every year.
Note, it is not born and leaves precisely because Yeltsin pursued just such a policy. "
http://lib.guru.ua/POLITOLOG/sulakshin.txt

Maybe it's not interesting - well, why about it again ...
“They talk about a great power, about a federation, and the line“ targeted programs for the development of Russian regions ”was financed by only 45%.
... but the line "servicing the public debt" was exceeded even in the conditions of the collapsed budget.
This means that, deliberately destroying the budget revenue base, they are trying to plug holes in current budget financing through the construction of the Mavrodi pyramids, but by the state itself, by issuing State Short-Term Obligations, the so-called GKOs, and other securities.
This means that the state lives in debt, and the Mavrodi pyramid, once collapsed by not very sophisticated investors, will collapse throughout Russia as a whole. It is inevitable, it is programmed.
The financial collapse and collapse in the country from this policy follows absolutely predicted ...
It is quite obvious that eating up the line "social policy" with the simultaneous destruction of the revenue base of the budget, industry, and the real sector is a vicious circle along which the country goes into oblivion. "

[sleepy]

"And the truth and the point is that on December 25, 1997, Yeltsin's
the government introduced to the State Duma a bill amending the 1997 Budget Law.
Notice that the fiscal year has already ended, and they needed to amend the Budget Law.
It is not important that the budget itself was a failure, that the government introduced an illegal sequestration, that by a presidential decree, in fact, officials were allowed to finance only what they wanted.
And in the current conditions it is clear that they only want to finance why they receive appropriate rewards in puffy envelopes.
Another thing is important: in this bill, expenditures on the country's defense-industrial complex and military science of the country are cut by 7 trillion rubles.
Another blow to defense.
The state defense order was unilaterally adjusted, state obligations on debts to industrial enterprises, research institutes and design bureaus, which are now not deferred to 1998, were canceled.
And this blow to the defense industry is also approved by the State Duma. "
And we remember that too.
http://lib.ru/POLITOLOG/sulakshin.txt
"In the course of regular negotiations between the government of the Russian Federation and the IMF on providing Russia with another loan for 10 billion dollars, the government has undertaken to fulfill a number of conditions:
1) the abolition of duties on the export of raw materials;
2) reduction of duties on imports of goods from the West;
3) the introduction of land into the trade;
4) the abolition of state subsidies for the maintenance of housing,
5) fragmentation of natural monopolies,
6) the creation of pension funds through direct contributions. "

[sleepy]

"For example, with privatization.
Gennady Burbulis found in Leningrad an "outstanding" economist, who worked as an assistant professor for 12 years, Anatoly Chubais.
He headed the State Committee for Property, dealing with privatization,
"Russian Privatization Center", in the depths of which $ 116 million was "lost."
Another thing is important: all employees of Chubais' Russian Privatization Center, and among them were 35 foreigners,
mostly americans had badges not only the building of the State Committee for Property, but also free access to a computer system.
But there they kept confidential information about the state of Russian industry, the defense industry, and the conditions of investment competitions.
What hysteria would arise in the American Congress if local lawmakers knew that 35 Russian citizens walk freely, say, in the building of the US Treasury or Commerce and get into a computer system!
Among the advisers to Chubais in the State Committee on Property, the counterintelligence service identified a CIA staff member, Jonathan Hay. The information collected on the state of affairs in Russian industry and the military-industrial complex naturally floated into the hands of the Americans.

Let us recall the "outstanding" Finance Minister Chubais, who received awards in Washington as the best finance minister of the year, and the country's budget is practically ruined.
Let us recall the "outstanding" economist Gaidar, who regularly followed instructions from Harvard (USA), the International Monetary Fund, who signed hundreds of draft decrees and decrees that were brought to him from overseas ... "

Why write about it? To remember.
http://lib.guru.ua/POLITOLOG/sulakshin.txt

Let's read the direct testimony of Anatoly Chubais when he was the first deputy chairman of the government of the Russian Federation. Letter N4573p-P2 of November 28, 1997
"To President of the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development James Wolfensohn. Washington, USA".
Chubais writes: “In accordance with our agreements, I am sending a letter on the policy of the government of the Russian Federation in the coal industry in 1997-1998, signed by VS Chernomyrdin.
Let me once again express my deep appreciation for the support of the government's efforts to reform the Russian economy. Your decision to increase the amount of the second loan (here is the management mechanism, and in clear text - S.S.) to finance the structural adjustment of the coal sector testifies to your deep understanding of Russian realities.
It is a significant contribution to the implementation of measures outlined and agreed upon with the bank (agreed upon!
But after all it is clear to everyone that they agree with the leader. So, here Chubais himself says who is the boss in the Russian house. - S.S.) in the coal industry.
Best wishes. A. Chubais ".

[sleepy]

Read more.
Stepan Sulakshin. "Treason."
http://lib.ru/POLITOLOG/sulakshin.txt

"Isn't it a betrayal, when in the conditions of the collapse of the Russian economy, the defeat of the aviation industry, which sells only 6 airplanes of the Air Force and Civil Aviation in a year, Chernomyrdin signs his
"Order of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation V.S. Chernomyrdin N1489Р dated October 7, 1996",
which says:
"To make a decision on full exemption for a period of five years from customs duties, dues and taxes for Boeing-750 aircraft, Douglas-DC10 aircraft imported into the territory of the Russian Federation in 1994-1995 and operated on domestic and international airlines."

Is it not a betrayal signed at that time by the assistant to President Yeltsin, then by the Minister of Finance of his government, and in 1998 - deputy. the head of the Presidential Administration of Yeltsin - A. Livshits letter.
("Letter of the Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation for Economics A. Livshits to the Government of the Russian Federation No. A-1-1268L dated April 3, 1995).
In it, Livshits instructs the First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation:
"I ask you to take this position into account when forming a policy for regulating the fleet of domestic and foreign air vehicles."
But what is this position?
Here is a quote: "Unfortunately, recently there has been an extremely dangerous tendency of thoughtless lobbying of the interests of the domestic aircraft building complex on the part of government agencies.(??? - S.S.), which consists in attempts at all costs to begin operating the new Russian aircraft TU-204, which was unfinished in all respects.
In accordance with the foregoing please support the position (here it is - an indication of Livshits to the Russian Government - S.S.) on the inadmissibility of the serial launch of the TU-204 aircraft on Russian air routes and the continuation of the doctrine of the acquisition of advanced models of western aircraft in leasing.
We ask you to agree with our proposal and give appropriate instructions to the Russian government. "
So, on April 3, 1995 Livshits gives the government such an instruction.
What other words can be used to qualify these documents, these actions and these people? "

Stepan Sulakshin. "Treason."
http://lib.guru.ua/POLITOLOG/sulakshin.txt

Why write about it again?
Maybe someone does not know, or maybe someone has already forgotten.
But here I, who worked at the St. Petersburg aircraft instrument-making enterprise before this betrayal, should not be forgotten.

[sleepy]

And others remember how the collapse of the aviation industry began.

From the Internet about aviation industry workers. http://kan-kendarat.livejournal.com/17641.html

"The plant is your home, the plant is your family. And if you don't get drunk, you will be all right, just work!
So they worked on the Aviation - with all their might and enthusiasm. 100 aircraft per year.
9 handsome "TU" every month flew into the sky from the factory airfield.
And spit in the eyes of the one who says that we had bad airplanes.
These were the most reliable and safest aircraft in the world!
Not a single accident was on the TU-154 due to the fault of the glider.

The other day, television with reverence, swallowing saliva, celebrated the anniversary of Viktor Stepanovich Chernomyrdin.
According to parquet journalists, Chernomyrdin should first of all remain in the people's memory
as the author of deep aphorisms. But, they noticed, a strange thing: everything that was quoted was wretched?
However, if you know that the best “Chernomyrdinsky” aphorism “was wanted the best, but it turned out, as always” is printed in collections of aphorisms and actually belongs to the Tsar’s Minister S.Yu. Witte
really smart person, then - nothing strange.

And the workers of our Plant remember another “aphorism” of Stepanych, from which you will not turn your back:

"To make a decision on full exemption for a period of five years from customs duties, dues and taxes for Boeing-750 aircraft, Douglas-DC10 aircraft imported into the territory of the Russian Federation in 1994-1995 and operated on domestic and international airlines."
(Order of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation V. Chernomyrdin N 1489Р of October 7, 1996)

And another quote from the death sentence to our guys, our native Plant:
“Unfortunately, recently there has been an extremely dangerous tendency of thoughtless lobbying of the interests of the domestic aircraft building complex on the part of government agencies.
We ask you to support the question of the inadmissibility of the serial launch of the TU-204 aircraft on Russian air routes and the continuation of the doctrine of leasing advanced models of Western aircraft. "
(Letter from the Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation for Economics A. Livshits to the Government of the Russian Federation NA-1 1268Л dated April 3, 1995).

Once upon a time, 100 planes took off from here into the sky every year. Now at Aviakor they dream of 10.
Data for February 2008: Of the 28 thousand workers at the plant, 3,5 thousand remained.
The average salary in the Plant is 9374 rubles. I’m afraid that the top management salary also entered here,
which, as you know, in spending on oneself, loved ones, is usually not shy.
All "social" is destroyed. In the former factory dispensary, drug addicts are now pumped out.
... Well, how am I going to go to my mother’s grave with this? Here, in ruins, through the wind I hear:
- What have you done, daughter? .. ". Http://www.x-libri.ru/elib/borzv000/00000311.htm

And further.
“Russian airlines will be allowed to hire foreigners to work as pilots.
The newspaper "Vedomosti" writes about it in the issue of October 5 with reference to the Minister of Transport Maxim Sokolov ".
http://www.russianskyteam.ru/forums/showthread.php?t=3972

[sanyabasik]

Well, in fact, according to data from Kubinka, Musatov refused (he is "respected" for that), so he is still in limbo ..
On the face of one: the times are gone when the opinion of the pilots was asked and taken into account ..
The conclusions are disappointing ...

[VAF]

Quote: sanyabasik

Well, in fact, according to data from Kubinka, Musatov refused (he is "respected" for this)

Sasha, + well, this is still at the level of rumors..type Lipetsk said to the Cubans .....
And if Musatov does not find enough motivation, then Bondarev will stupidly "devour" him!

[Yuri11076]

Indeed, this is a replay, the article was already in November ...

[Yarbay]

*** Air Force Commander-in-Chief Lieutenant-General Viktor Bondarev intends to appoint Maxim Musatov, pilot of another aerobatics group "Falcons of Russia" from Lipetsk Aviation Center, as the new commander of the Swifts aerobatic team. no pilot worthy of becoming a commander in the opinion of the commander in chief ??

[VAF]

Quote: Yarbay

did I understand correctly that among the aerobatic team * Swifts * there is no pilot worthy of becoming a commander in the opinion of the commander in chief ??

Right, dear AlikBek! It is in the opinion of the Commander-in-Chief .... in fact, in the group of Morozov (the former) there were and are trained both the commander and his deputy. As a rule, training in a group takes from 3 to 5 years !!!!

[Yarbay]

Quote: vaf

) were and are trained and the commander and his deputy. As a rule, training in a group takes from 3 to 5 years !!!!

In principle, I thought so!
And it’s just a question of a teapot — but is every pilot of the group not an ace ?? In the sense that not everyone can replace a commander ??

[VAF]

Quote: Yarbay

And it’s just a question of a teapot — but is every pilot of the group not an ace ?? In the sense that not everyone can replace a commander ??

Everyone in the group is of the highest class, but ... the level of training of the commander must be higher, because. the commander flies not only in the leader's place, but in any place, and the most difficult place in the BP is ... the tail one and unfortunately .. just the pilot from the group cannot "stand up" in the commander's place, without appropriate training ... therefore, extremely surprised the appointment of Musatov to this position (there are no claims to him, the order is an order) the whole thing is in the group. after all, you first need to "smuggle" it, and then everything else, that is. the group, instead of flying, will be engaged in the preparation process.
And the most "funny" (to be honest, it's not funny at all). he will be transported to the commander Osyaikin, who is 100% ready as a commander, but he wrote a letter in defense of Morozov to Pu himself, and so do ...

[Yarbay]

Quote: vaf

he will be transported to the commander Osyaykin, who is 100% ready as the commander, but he wrote a letter in defense of Morozov to Pu himself, and so do ... nizya

Osyaykin as far as I remember the deputy was !! ??
And here it was written in my opinion that not only did he write to Putin, but he also refused to take the commander's place, in protest!
In general, I am becoming more and more convinced that anyone can even become a marshall, but very few can remain Humans and in general being a MAN is not an easy task !!

[VAF]

Quote: Yarbay

but very few can remain Humans and in general to be a MAN is not an easy task !!

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++

[VAF]

Quote: Yarbay

Osyaykin as far as I remember the deputy was !! ??

Why was it? ... So far ... and there is, though .....

[Lissyara]

Serega, hello!
Yes, with the group in general, some kind of misunderstanding. They want to send a normal man for demobilization, for the post of commander from Lipetsk, send a couple of pilots to the Yak-130. Usually such "restructuring" does not lead to anything good.
Better yet, the "Rus" was transplanted onto the Yak-130 instead of the old L-39 that is being piloted.

[VAF]

Quote: LiSSyara

Better yet, the "Rus" was transplanted onto the Yak-130 instead of the old L-39 that is being piloted.

Sergei, immediately talked about this as soon as the question arose. rather, he was voiced by a stool about the creation of a new group on the Yak-130!
And why don’t you transplant Russia ... a ready-made and wonderful group, the minimum expenses for preparation, especially since 9th ........!
There is only one answer ... to free the kubinka, since the grannies are already sealed and the entrance is all

[valokordin]

It is interesting Morozov to resign, Serdyukov to prison.

[VAF]

Quote: LiSSyara

Better yet, the "Rus" was transplanted onto the Yak-130 instead of the old L-39 that is being piloted.

Sobakin "knocked" off the topic, but now I will continue .. for "Rus" .. I picked it up so to speak .. clearly (to your comment) and also ...... not deeply "buried" I think

And the "heart" of the Rusichi was made at a time when the Tricolors ... (without detracting from their skill) ..more ... they studied at the "school"

[Alex 241]

On the 100th anniversary of the Russian Air Force

[Lissyara]

Quote: vaf

..free the kubinka, since the grannies are already sealed and everything goes in

Seryozha, after one glass of pyva thoughts struck the head.
So we argue ...
Whatever one may say, but the aerobatic team is the face of the state. (Even island Taiwan has its own one - "Thunder Tigers"). It is clear that no one wants to lose this face.
Then the question arises - where does the respected Sergey Kuzhugetovich look, when is this story publicly known? (sorry, it’s not a couple of ZiLov-130s from DX units to drive into a neighboring collective farm, which no one will even remember). Accordingly, the absolute amorphousness of Viktor Nikolaich is also very alarming (or is it also a "stigma in the gun" on the "cut" of Kubinka?).
Those. "Hussar" no longer exists, "Swifts" in this situation, the identity will not. Only "Knights" stick out like a bone in the throat of the Comers, which can be connected with the "Falcons" by order (by issuing the same bubble on the paws of the Air Force bureaucrats / any justifications will be drawn for the MO leadership by order). I think that most pilots are unlikely to go to Lipetsk (their age is no longer lieutenant, and we do not live in the days of the USSR), respectively, termination of the contract and dismissal. And there are no Swifts either.
What is the exit - the airfield "Kubinka" with all the infrastructure. The "bottomless pocket" will only have to build a passenger terminal.

[VAF]

Quote: LiSSyara

Like it or not, but the aerobatic team is the face of the state.

Golden words, that's just .... okay .. let's not talk about sad things Runways in Kubinka, well, the infrastructure is overshadowed by everything, and even more so by a heap of greenery from
Already every little bit of a country has its own aerobatics, already as "obka..lis" in England, when the Slovaks were spinning aerobatics on the MiG-29s, and ours could not ....... get out!
Something is heard too often .... "well .. I couldn't", "she drowned", etc. etc.

And here ? They sew on white with black threads, not even with threads, but with ropes and ..... the entire management "pauses"?

It is clear that "a set-up and a hat" with a bribe. as S. Kramarov said ... he doesn’t canal, so they came up with a new "hat" - illegal extortions

Since time immemorial, you yourself know very well that each squadron, management had its own cash desks, where grandmothers gathered from each payday for their birthday, titles, classes, types. And all kinds of everyday things, well ... on "black day"! Did the Strizhiki carry it out at the officers' meeting under the protocol or not, or was it so long ago that everything had already gone bad, as unnecessary?

So they found a loophole. because there is a mutual aid fund in the database and the commander’s fund, and this is all illegal and the worst thing is that it (the presence of the cash desk is confirmed by everyone, though in the normal version, but how ... the interested parties will turn it up, it’s already understandable in principle ..... abuse and excess, i.e., Art. ...... everything is just like God's day .... remember what the famous lawyer said, the main thing is that there would be a person, and you can always fit an article for him!

If I were in their place (I cross out), I would have acted .... UNIVERSAL ...

And let them ... go through the woods!

[Alex 241]

You are always right commander Hi Seryozha.

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

Hi Seryozha.

Sasha hello dear ! As successes in combat and .. "political" ..

[Armata]

Quote: vaf

Sasha, hello, dear! As successes in combat and .. "political" ..

Sergey AU. Maybe I'm not worthy of your celestial attention. But still answer the question. What's up with Valery? How is he doing with the court?

[VAF]

Quote: Mechanic

But still answer the question. What's up with Valery? How is he doing with the court?

Zhenya, my friend already answered everything, look carefully, otherwise you ... like on the screws ..... quietly and .. you come up easy

[Alex 241]

but how beautiful Seryoz, and the sound ...................

[Alex 241]

normally the commander, as always catching up, you are in the air, and I stand on the blocks.

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

catching up, you're in the air, and I'm standing on the blocks.

Why so?

[Alex 241]

yes with this civil aviation .............................

[Alex 241]

Hi guys, as usual, I managed to do a hat analysis, the idea of ​​a VIP port based on Kubinka has been circulated for a long time. The Russian government ordered to open the famous Kubinka military airfield near Moscow for international civilian flights. Most of the air base in 2010 at a auction organized by the Ministry of Defense was bought by billionaire Suleiman Kerimov. The billionaire needed a Cuban to build a terminal for business aviation on it. Translated into Russian, all this means that the famous aerobatic teams “Russian Knights” and “Swifts” will be sent to other airfields, along with several hundred more aircraft.
, and as we see it begins to come to life.

as they say without comment

[Lissyara]

Sanya, my respect!
But they will definitely not leave it as a dual-purpose airfield (like the Arkhangelsk "Talag").

[Yarbay]

Quote: Alex 241

Most of the air base in 2010 at a auction organized by the Ministry of Defense was bought by billionaire Suleiman Kerimov. The billionaire needed a Cuban to build a terminal for business aviation on it.

I don’t think everything is so simple !!
He was involved in aviation for three years and saw everything with his own eyes !!
Everything has a host!
I think that Karimov or any other billionaire was offered to buy!
And to buy it does not mean to own!
I think everything is much more complicated!
Surely this is a multi-way combination!

[Alex 241]

Hi Seryoga, will be imprisoned purely under civilian, analogue of Vnukovo

The fate of Kubinka was decided personally by Putin

In 2009, as part of the privatization program, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin excluded Kubinka from the list of jointly based airfields. In 2010, a land plot of 46 hectares (the entire aerodrome occupies 60 hectares) with adjacent infrastructure for only $ 7 million at a tender by the Ministry of Defense bought a gesheftmakher Karimov to carry out his gesheft business projects. By the way, I am not an expert, but, in my opinion - $ 7 million for 46 hectares of land, with the infrastructure available in Kubinka, is definitely an understated price. Again, some “edros” most likely put a rollback in his pocket.

The new owner plans to build an international business terminal on the base of the still fighting airfield. The volume of required investments is estimated at $ 2018 billion. By XNUMX, the conversion of Kubinka into a civilian airport is expected.

Victor Savenkov: If they intend to transform this airdrome into a civilian airport by 2018, where will the Strizhi and Vityazei relocate? Or will they stay there?

Magomed Tolboev: They will be relocated to Lipetsk.

Victor Savenkov: And will the pilots themselves go there?

Magomed Tolboev: I also raised this question. People are already accustomed, got along, settled down, and now they are somewhere to act in film. It is not worth offending a military man: because of his oath, he cannot resist. “To endure hardships and hardships with dignity” is written in the charter, and we are doing it. But businessmen use it. Everything is fine with them, but it would be better if they gave these military pilots land for summer cottages in the Moscow Region. The military is the most offended part of the Russian population.

Victor Savenkov: That is, giving Kubinka for commercial use, we jeopardize the existence of elite aerobatic teams?

Magomed Tolboev: In addition to the national coat of arms, anthem and flag, all self-respecting countries have their own national aerobatic team: among the Spaniards, Italians, French, Americans. They fly on behalf of their state, their people and the president.

Ours are destroyed. In the 90s, Anatoly Kvochur and I flew with these groups around the world: America, South Africa, Thailand, Australia - in the most difficult times we showed that Russia was alive. And today they tell us, "You are nobody." For me personally, as an officer in the Russian army, this is insulting.

Victor Savenkov: How the transfer from this airfield will affect the training of aerobatic teams.

Magomed Tolboev: It will be bad, because a single system will be destroyed. We no longer have aviation: 3-4 aircraft were built in a year, and immediately “Hurray!” on all channels. We need such aircraft not 3-4, but 1304!

Victor Savenkov: What airbases will now be closest to Moscow?

Magomed Tolboev: There will be nothing closer to Voronezh and Lipetsk.

Victor Savenkov: And what about the flight school, with the training of new pilots?

Magomed Tolboev: For four years we did not have a set of cadets who should replace the current pilots. Only this year, the Minister of Defense allowed the resumption of recruitment. I can’t understand anything at all: the territory of Russia is not Switzerland, and not the Vatican. This is a huge country that needs the appropriate power of aviation.

Yugoslavia was defeated by aviation in more than twenty days, without introducing a single NATO soldier into it. Libya was defeated by aviation, Iraq, too. It all depends on the Air Force. Therefore, Russian aviation must be maintained and raised not by single purchases, but by large-scale ones.

Victor Savenkov: And who will now protect the sky of Moscow?

Magomed Tolboev: No one will. Today, Russia has only one hope - for nuclear missiles.

[Lissyara]

Sash, the question arose while Tolboeva was listening.
By the way, why not decommission Bykovo, instead of using it as a parking lot for motorists at MAX? Yes, and closer to Moscow ...
Yes, and we will observe in Kubinka from such a poster (especially to scare military pilots):

[Alex 241]

Sereg, it’s far to Rublevka, at hand, Astafyevo has the Gazprom terminal, but it’s not very popular, travel far, mostly ABT Vnukovo 3, TsDA Sheremetyevo, ZOLD Sheremetyevo-2, and Avkom Domodedovo fly.

[Lissyara]

Although yes, I didn’t think about the strategy of money bag, although it was voiced in the film.

[Karish]

Quote: LiSSyara

Yes, and we will observe in Kubinka from such a poster (especially to scare military pilots):

Yes . desire to return does not add

[Alex 241]

Hi, Sasha, I’m glad to see how you can imagine a noble body shaking on a Ryazan, and then from Zhukovka or Laikovo to Minka and a stone's throw.

Vnukovo Airport wants to rely on scheduled flights. He intends to offer business aviation to move to the Kubinka airport of Suleiman Kerimov

Co-owner and chairman of the board of directors of the airport Vitaly Vantsev told Vedomosti about the new Vnukovo strategy. In 2013, the company plans to increase passenger traffic by about 50% (in 2012, about 10 million passengers are expected), he says. In December, the reconstruction of the second runway will be completed. Now she will be able to take long-range aircraft. A new line of passenger terminal A will also open.

Vnukovo’s total ground capacity will increase to about 30 million passengers a year, Vantsev continues. But the problem is the limited capacity of the air zone over Vnukovo, he adds. “We are waiting for our turn to depart for up to an hour,” confirms an employee of a major air broker ordering flights from the Vnukovo-3 business terminal. In September, the base airline Vnukovo, UTair, complained about the turn in the sky. “Airplanes are waiting for landing for 30-40 minutes,” her letter said.

Vnukovo can increase its throughput by reducing business traffic - now it is about 25% of take-offs and landings. “In the next couple of years, most of it will go to Kubinka,” Vantsev predicts. This option is already being discussed with the owner of the airport, Suleiman Kerimov and his assistants, he adds. The representative of Karimov only said that Kubinka would be launched in 2013-2014, and declined to comment further.

A source at Vnukovo says that Vnukovo plans to redirect flows through a substantial increase in tariffs for business jets. “At least we will not reduce them. We have invested about $ 200 million in the business terminal, ”Vantsev said.

“Rates [at Vnukovo] are already 10-15% higher than at Domodedovo or Sheremetyevo,” says Alexander Evdokimov, CEO of Jet Transfer. But Vnukovo is the most popular one: it’s easier to get to it, he explains. "Due to the weak logistics of Kubinka, business traffic from Vnukovo will be distributed between Sheremetyevo and Domodedovo,” said Alexey, a co-owner of Upcast consulting agency Korolev. But if a highway is laid to Kubinka, many business companies will go there themselves. “Moreover, there are a lot of private VIP residences in this area, including Rublevka,” says Evdokimov. And transferring business airlines will not be difficult: they are mobile, planes are mainly registered in Europe, and are based there, Korolev summarizes.

[Lissyara]

Sanya, still elementary. Millionaire ass in the pinwheel, and forward, with a feather in it (in the sense of an ass), on Bykovo.
So it will come to the point that some thread of the nouveau riche will "screw up" Ramenskoye.

[Alex 241]

How many earrings do we have? In the new Riga, crocus city, sklif, Helicopter infrastructure is not developed due to our legislation, more or less afloat AEROSOYUZ,

[Lissyara]

Well, let them poke around at their sites, you’ll eat at least places. They will not die from the fact that they will lose one guest house.
I also dug up about Kubinka in Izvestia from 2009.
"The Kubinka was not included in the number of permanent combat readiness units," a source in the Ministry of Defense told Izvestia. "Therefore, a change in its status will not damage the combat readiness of our army (a fighter flies from Lipetsk to Moscow for 20 minutes -" Izvestia "). There is an airport The Ostafyevo navy near Moscow. Both sailors and Gazprom planes are based there. And nothing. In general, the military department plans to change the status of a number of military airfields. For example, Krechevitsy near Veliky Novgorod or Engels airfield near Saratov. " ...
Is it a joke about Engels?

[Alex 241]

Promising look .............. wording, you are walking on the flight, and from the bases there will be business jets flying!

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

wording

Noticed? especially in the light of extreme events and THEY are happy .... "the success of the reform"

And such regiments and divisions, such a ... wording ..... the amount of comment is not enough to list!

[Alex 241]

The main thing is that everything on paper would be beautiful! Damn anger is not enough!

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

Damn anger is not enough!

Sanya, that's it, I'm on the fourth ... chassis released with landing, group

[Alex 241]

I’m watching you land.

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

I observe you landing allow

Got it, they allowed it ... in a group, landing 300 ...

[Alex 241]

There are no laws on small aviation earrings at all, but about airbases it’s a masterpiece, bombers in a circle in the waiting area of ​​Abramovich on the glide path.

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

Abramovich on the glide path. Masterpiece!

It seems to me that the owner of the chelis and the steamer ... will write crookedly if ... he sees

[Alex 241]

like that Seryoz, so that his teeth would clatter!

[Armata]

Alexander. And what did we do in the humble ECB Tu 95? It seems that they are not standing anywhere near.

[Lissyara]

Insanity grows stronger ...
Announcing at the airport: "To the crew of the Tu-160 strategic bomber, Valery Chkalov, tail number 17, please go to check-in at the fifth counter" or "The Tu-95MS strategic bomber has landed on the Kura-Engels training ground. Meetings are asked to go to out ... "

[Alex 241]

Aha Earrings and special products through customs to drive away

[VAF]

Quote: LiSSyara

Insanity grows stronger ...

Well ....... for insanity (photo not photoshop. but ..100% nature to the topic ..for insanity)!

[Alex 241]

Here the bourgeoisie nervously smoke! The commander to the bottom

[Thunderbolt]

By the way, in 2005, Senator Obama was in Engels)

[APASUS]

It's time to switch to UAVs

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[Alex 241]

Lesh, hi, you believe only I remembered about you! I think in this topic and was not marked

[Thunderbolt]

Hello! I’m mainly watching you in my green sight. Domestic affairs are overpowering. You’re saying everything correctly

[Alex 241]

......... here’s Lesh in your collection.

[VAF]

Sanya, I look at Koltsovo, and about Aramil ..... are you not indifferent?

[VAF]

Quote: Thunderbolt

I’m mainly watching you in my green sight. Domestic affairs are overpowered.

Aleksei. I’m greeting .. just watch carefully .... maybe this is the last time ... we all observe them .... and Valera is definitely

[VAF]

Quote: vaf

.we all observe them.

I beg your pardon .... Dmitry Koposov ... "forgot" .....

But this is solo aerobatics ..... the best in the world!

[Alex 241]

now hold Lesh, soon it will be a rarity

[studentmati]

The degradation of state foundations continues. And the "drain" of the aerobatic teams is one of the steps into the abyss. The state has no ideology, and such a state does not need patriots in the person of "Russian Knights" and "Swifts". Statements about their unprofitability and unprofitability are complete nonsense. The public destruction, without exaggeration, of national heroes leads only to further distrust of the authorities, and not only among the military. Which will help the adversaries very much, of course. Come to your senses, rulers!

[Lissyara]

Hi Sasha!
Well, what a loss - this is the aerobatic team of the Ministry of Defense, they are state employees, and "flights" are included in the budget of the Air Force. This is people blowing in their ears that "it is hard to contain." In this situation, the Lipetsk Center is also difficult to maintain, they fly there every day.

[Civil]

too much already ... involved, do not get fooled!

[Den488]

Someone will answer the question: "Why did Musatov not please you all?" Because he is from Lipetsk ??? And what non-professionals fly in Lipetsk ?? Or not like in Kubinka ??? As far as I understand, all the Cubans were retrained in Lipetsk at one time ??? If I'm wrong, correct ...

If everyone has forgotten, I can remind you what they are doing in Kubinka and what they are doing in Lipetsk ...

And yet, I'm just wondering, maybe who knows, the former commander of the Swifts and his Zam, always served in Kubinka (with lieutenants) or at one time, they also came from somewhere ??? If you came, then for some reason, then no one spoke about the collapse of "the pride of our Air Force" !!!!!!

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"Falcons of Russia"

[valokordin]

It all started with Gatchina, Kachi and Borisoglebsk. Now everything is from Moscow, so it’s completely scum.

[Lissyara]

This is not in the "please-displease" plan. It's just that the flight team is flying off - this is the time ...

[Yarbay]

Quote: Den488

And yet, I'm just wondering, maybe who knows, the former commander of the Swifts and his Zam, always served in Kubinka (with lieutenants) or at one time, they also came from somewhere ??? If you came, then for some reason, then no one spoke about the collapse of "the pride of our Air Force" !!!!!!

The issue is not collapse, but decency and trust !!

[taseka]

Looks like swifts and falcons had a fight because of the worm!

[Yarbay]

Quote: taseka

Looks like swifts and falcons had a fight because of the worm!

I think they are trying to quarrel !!

[taseka]

It is likely that the intrigue and money - a foreign tour, and with them a group of observers on a ball with the Moscow Region

[boris.radevitch]

Congratulations Swifts with the commander I wish you great happiness!

[Den488]

Quote: Yarbay

The issue is not collapse, but decency and trust !!

I hope this is not about Valery Morozov right now?

Quote: taseka

Looks like swifts and falcons had a fight because of the worm!

And who said they had a fight ???

[taseka]

And I want - no !!!