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New symbol of Volgograd instead of Motherland?

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After a group of Volgograd officials successfully flew to Italy as part of an "official" trip that cost the hero city and its taxpayers a lump sum, apparently, an administrative mechanism completely stuck with the city authorities, and more and more began to be born. original ideas. So the other day from the city on the banks of the Volga came the information that the local authorities are going to offer the world a new city symbol. It turns out that the world-famous symbol of Volgograd-Stalingrad as a hero-city, in which a truly epochal battle took place during the Great Patriotic War, no longer suits the army of Volgograd officials ...



The fact that such a department as the state institution “Tourism Development Agency” of Volgograd with the active support of the Committee for Youth Policy, the Department of Foreign Relations Administration and the Agency for the Development of Cultural Initiatives of the Volgograd region, suddenly decided that the symbol of the hero city, namely the world famous the statue of E.Vuchetich "Motherland is calling!", is, quote:

“... the legacy of Soviet times. She (the statue) is associated with something so heavy, tragic, mourning. Especially from foreigners. And we would like our territory to be perceived as pleasant for recreation. ”


"The winning brand for many years to come will become a symbol of one of the most famous Russian cities, will spread across millions of copies in the country and foreign countries, making Volgograd closer and more understandable for millions of people around the world."


Hmmm ... Apparently, the sun illuminating the beaches of the Italian resorts and the famous wine from the Apennine Peninsula so strongly impacted Volgograd officials from various agencies, committees and departments that since April (since that very "business trip") many of them have not can The organizers of the competition seem to forget, and what makes Volgograd thereby a world-famous city ... They also forget that all these initiatives about the "rebranding" can, on the contrary, cause skepticism among the same tourists who come to the city like in a glorious military city stories, the city of the Great Victory. And then, you see, to some tourist at the sight of the Motherland, he doesn’t have a good time ... Yes, for God's sake - let him go to where there are palm trees, beaches and bikinis. Who forbids? ..

And does it really matter to Volgograd, and to all other Russians, how foreigners perceive the victory of the Soviet people over fascism. Or again, the whole question in money: how to attract “grandmas” to Volgograd, and then how to use these “grandmas” for new Italian “business trips”.

Yes, of course, the Battle of Stalingrad itself is a tragic event in the history of our country, but the same event spread the news about the unparalleled courage and resilience of our people, that the fascist armada suffered a crushing defeat around the Volga which has changed the course of the Great Patriotic War, and the entire Second World War. If someone's feat of the Soviet soldier in Stalingrad causes negative emotions, then is it worth it to listen to the opinion of this person. Indeed, in any city there is one who will argue with foaming at the mouth that “they were fighting in vain”, that “now they would have drunk Bavarian beer long ago and have seized this business with fried sausages,” and such a person would say that he had negative associations with the form of "Motherland" on Mamaev Kurgan. Yes, he will declare anything, just to cover up his complete historical illiteracy and desire to play in the "new trends of democracy."

Maybe even on the occasion to go, and rearrange the statue somewhere far away so that the tourist would be at ease and “cool”.
In general, the competition for a new brand of the city, “pleasant for rest”, has been announced. Summing up its results, if, of course, the authorities of Volgograd are suddenly not fully aware of the entire stupidity of the project, should take place as early as this month. The organizers call on all creative citizens to develop a draft of a new (“positive”) symbol of the city of Volgograd, which would attract turbulent flows of foreigners to the banks of the Volga. Interestingly, the ideological inspirers of this kind of competition are going to see, and indeed, they have thoughts in their heads that any sensible person will be ready to associate Volgograd not with the Battle of Stalingrad and the sculpture of Vuchetich’s authorship, but with the embodiment of the fantasy of creatives who aimed to like guests ...
In this case, we can assume what projects may appear in the near future. Projects that can attract the attention of foreign tourists.

Project one: a statue of a Volgograd bureaucrats flying to Italy on a charter flight.
The second project: the monument "Magnitsky List", and next to three statues of soloists "Pussy Riot", covering the height of "Motherland".
The third project: the monument "New dancing Volgograd bridge for endts billion rubles."
The fourth project: a monument to Barack Obama with open arms in front of the administration building (generally a win-win option to attract foreign tourists).

In general, there are more than enough options here, and if you consider how much each of them may require money from the budget, then, in principle, the purpose of such a competition becomes more than obvious. After all, officials and wives, and children have, they also want to eat and dress up like ... And on one "Motherland", apparently, all proliferated Volgograd politicians have a hard time to feed themselves ...
However, realizing the stupidity of the situation in which they themselves found themselves, city officials decided to justify themselves. In particular, before the townspeople and journalists decided to speak acting. Heads of Volgograd City Hall mister Sobakar. He noted that the initiative was not understood. In fact, there is no question of rebranding. They say that the city just wants to have a new "neutral" symbol, and the symbol of the Battle of Stalingrad will still remain the main one.

In general, as they say, reassured ...

Still, it would be much better if the army of Volgograd officials did not concern themselves with the creation of “new” symbols, but solved much more pressing issues: repair of roads, stadiums, bridges, raising living standards, transportation problems, agricultural development, cleaning littered with garbage Volga beaches, finally. And if you drive around on budget money in “Italy”, will you be able to keep up with everything?



PS The authorities of Berlin do not declare that the memorial in Treptow Park causes negative emotions in someone. So why should the authorities of Volgograd be like those who push the idea of ​​a break with the past in Latvia or Estonia ... One thing pleases: the symbols of the hero city and the memory of the feat will remain, but the officials are temporary people.

03.12.2012, 15: 17: 53 Officials punished for competition for a new symbol of Volgograd

The officials who suggested changing the symbol of Volgograd and announced a competition for a new graphic designation of the city were punished. About it on Monday, December 3, reports RIA News with reference to the deputy head of the city administration, Alexander Maslov.
In total, four officials were involved in the scandalous competition for the symbol of the city, the administration said. One of them is fired. What kind of punishment awaits the remaining three officials, not specified.

Last week, the media reported that the mayor of Volgograd announced a competition for a new symbol of the city, as the existing symbol is the image of the sculpture "Motherland is calling!" on Mamayev Kurgan - allegedly unattractive for tourists.

The government of the region said that the initiative belongs to the city mayor’s office, and the possibility of changing the symbol was not discussed either with the local cabinet or with the public. The Volgograd mayor's office reported that the competition for the creation of a symbol of the city was held by the city department of foreign relations, but not for the purpose of rebranding, but in order to tell about the modern sights of the city. Were they going to completely abandon the use of the current symbol of the city, or simply wanted to introduce another one, it wasn’t specified.

The initiative of the city department of foreign relations was perceived, on the whole, critically. Acting head of the administration of Volgograd Vladimir Sobakar spoke against changing the character, noting that the “brand” of Volgograd is the Battle of Stalingrad, embodied in the monument “The Motherland Calls!” State Duma deputy, coordinator of the patriotic platform of the United Russia party, Irina Yarovaya, called for punishing officials who wanted to change the symbol of the city, calling them incompetent, and their initiative was stupid.

According to Sobakar, there was not a single proposal for changing the symbol of Volgograd, and the results of the competition should have been announced on October 19. At the same time, according to Nezavisimaya Gazeta, it was planned to take in applications for the competition until December 17.

In 2013, the 70 anniversary of the victory at Stalingrad will be celebrated in Russia. The battle of Stalingrad became the largest land battle of the Second World War and, along with the battle of Kursk, marked a radical change in favor of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War. The construction of the sculptural ensemble "Motherland Calling!" Dedicated to the heroes of the Battle of Stalingrad began in the year 1959 and was completed in the year 1967.

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  1. YARY
    YARY 3 December 2012 07: 40
    +136
    SHOTS-MASS SHOTS - TOTAL R S C S T R E L S!
    All these traitors are in public! With reading on the All-Russian radio their "pearls" and ChSVN forever in the taiga!
    1. YARY
      YARY 3 December 2012 07: 47
      +52
      Some kind of abomination - apparently the same as these bureaucrats - slush sewer - disagrees with my conclusion.
      Kids traitors and policemen, and other evil spirits.
      1. I-16M
        I-16M 3 December 2012 07: 58
        +25
        Someone from 10% of the "elite" minus you. wink
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 December 2012 08: 05
          +29
          Quote: I-16M
          Someone from 10% of the "elite" minus you

          Mr. Sobakar himself seems to be sitting on our website, he does not like our comments. He expected support from us. fool
          It is a pity there is no smila with a fig
          1. I-16M
            I-16M 3 December 2012 08: 14
            +37
            good But seriously, because some kind of nits support the Volgograd bureaucrats. Although ... why be surprised, Stalin’s incomplete 5th column in power sad
            1. predator.3
              predator.3 3 December 2012 09: 06
              +57
              So a "new" generation of Russian officials has grown up in the gangster 90s, received an "education" in the permissive "zero" years, in whose eyes the image of the dollar is frozen, and in their brains there is one thought, grab!
              1. Nose
                Nose 3 December 2012 12: 54
                +16
                Quote: predator.3

                So a "new" generation of Russian officials has grown up, which grew up in the gangster 90s, received "education

                This Dog under seventy !!! It can’t be attributed to the new ones. Yes, and in general all the power of the hero city is temporary clowns. The first elections will disperse them in the corners, like toothless mice.
                1. Ymidge
                  Ymidge 3 December 2012 16: 20
                  +13
                  Quote: Nose
                  This Dog under seventy !!!

                  Nothing rejuvenates so much as insanity! hi
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 3 December 2012 09: 43
            +10
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Lord Sobakar himself


            I don't understand - the director of the agency - Maya Levanovna Vlasova by nationality is not at all one of those foreigners who came here at 41 for a "pleasant vacation". Although the surname pumped up anyway
            1. Mujahiddin777
              Mujahiddin777 3 December 2012 11: 22
              +3
              Maybe she did that? From this tribe, Maya ... lol
            2. YARY
              YARY 3 December 2012 13: 02
              -7
              ARMENIAN she and the Armenians themselves know, not our people
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 14: 18
                +16
                Matevosyan Samvel Minasovich
                24.08.1912 - 15.01.2003
                Hero of Social Labor

                http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=9926
                sometimes it's better to keep silent
                1. YARY
                  YARY 3 December 2012 15: 16
                  +23
                  U. Vasilenko Svet Vladimirovich
                  Armenia is a separate state this time.
                  - "We have no irreplaceable ones!" J.V. Stalin is two
                  Exceptions only confirm the rules are three
                  And finally from myself:
                  When representatives of all "diasporas" in Russia begin to spread rot on their fellow tribesmen for the slightest disrespect for the people on whose territory they were allowed to live, the question will be removed!
                  And at the moment we have the opposite.
                  1. MilaPhone
                    MilaPhone 3 December 2012 16: 02
                    +4
                    Quote: Ardent
                    Vasilenko light VladimirovichArmenia is a separate state, this time .- "We have no irreplaceable ones!" JV Stalin is twoExceptions only confirm the rules are threeAnd finally from myself: When representatives of all "diasporas" in Russia begin to spread rot on their fellow tribesmen for the slightest disrespect for the people on whose territory they were allowed to live, the question will be removed! we have the opposite.

                    Here I fully agree with you.
                  2. HIGHLANDER
                    HIGHLANDER 4 December 2012 06: 06
                    +2
                    Quote: Ardent
                    When representatives of all "diasporas" in Russia begin to spread rot on their fellow tribesmen for the slightest disrespect for the people on whose territory they were allowed to live, the question will be removed!
                    Dear, this is suitable for kindling. we have a multinational country. how many Georgians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Jews died in Stalingrad and for the land, as you say, they are allowed to live
                    1. SAVA555.IVANOV
                      SAVA555.IVANOV 5 December 2012 16: 26
                      0
                      Quote: Highlander
                      Dear, this is suitable for kindling.

                      Then what many of those who are listed by you are doing now is called sabotage and subversive activity against the state, and then we return to the first komenty
                      1. Bekzat
                        Bekzat 6 December 2012 16: 01
                        0
                        For Sava, what can you say about the girls from the Pusi Route? After all, are they also Russian? It is not necessary to reduce everything from ethnic hatred, and there are their own ghouls and there are their own.
                      2. HIGHLANDER
                        HIGHLANDER 7 December 2012 05: 16
                        +2
                        so I don’t deny that we must destroy the enemies, but not make a separate nation of the enemies, for the Russians, who would also have enough of them to put to the wall with great pleasure and the hand would not flinch, the main thing is an even fly and a smooth descent)
                2. Evrepid
                  Evrepid 6 December 2012 15: 18
                  0
                  It remains to add:
                  Marshal of the Soviet Union Baghramyan I.Kh.
                  Hero of the Soviet Union.
                  http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%8F%D0%BD,_%
                  D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D
                  0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
              2. MilaPhone
                MilaPhone 3 December 2012 14: 27
                +3
                Quote: Ardent
                ARMENIAN she and the Armenians themselves know, not our people

                Why? Are we no longer allies? Something happened?
                1. YARY
                  YARY 3 December 2012 15: 22
                  +3
                  I live side by side with the Armenians (literally)
                  And one thing is clear with them, with an extremely rare exception, they are a rotten board in the floor. They will sell in the light at the slightest benefit to themselves.
                  Well, what our government has done with the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus, otherwise than preparation for annexation "de facto" by the Armenians, you cannot call it.
                  1. MilaPhone
                    MilaPhone 3 December 2012 15: 54
                    +2
                    Quote: Ardent
                    I live side by side with the Armenians (in the literal sense) And one thing is clear with them, with extremely rare exceptions, they are a rotten board in the floor. They will sell it to the lungs at the slightest benefit for themselves. Well, what our government has done with the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus, otherwise than preparation for annexation "de facto" by the Armenians, you cannot call it.

                    Also not an indicator. For example, in my country house, over the fence, a neighbor's boy fucked a chicken. And the neighbor is drinking a little bit with his minor daughter. I now, in the opinion of a "non-Russian" "zoophile pervert" or what? No need to generalize. Regarding the annexation of the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus by the Armenians, I think that this is the influence of the propaganda machine of the states hostile to Armenians and Russians.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 16: 02
                      +3
                      Quote: Milafon
                      For example, in my country house, through a fence, a neighbor boy fucked a chicken

                      excuse me for God's sake, did I understand you correctly? belay
                      1. MilaPhone
                        MilaPhone 3 December 2012 16: 16
                        0
                        Yes, you understood correctly. There was a little scandal. The parents of the "prankster" paid the old woman for the unfortunate chicken (she was a stranger and died) as a pig and the incident was over.
                      2. Cosmonaut
                        Cosmonaut 3 December 2012 17: 12
                        +4
                        Hmm ... It happens.
                    2. Bismark
                      Bismark 5 December 2012 18: 11
                      +1
                      MilaPhone
                      I agree with you all 100. If a person is moral, then what difference does his nationality have. Summarize the destiny of the wretched.
                  2. Feroma
                    Feroma 5 December 2012 08: 17
                    +1
                    Clearly, one Armenian is bad, so the whole nation is rotten. You would have a little brother to cool down, as they say in every family, it seems to me that you very accurately fit this proverb. Wiser to be!
              3. Feroma
                Feroma 5 December 2012 08: 10
                +1
                The victory of the Soviet people over Nazi Germany was a common one, including the Armenians, however, like the Georgians, they fought together against the fascists. It would be better if they did not stir up another national feud on emotions in the wake of the dubious actions of officials. Who knows what nationality they are, Russians, Armenians, etc. the main thing is diby - for this shooting, but for such (your words) will have to answer ...
                1. Bekzat
                  Bekzat 6 December 2012 16: 02
                  0
                  For Ferom, the right words, + you.
              4. Ghenxnumx
                Ghenxnumx 6 December 2012 16: 44
                +1
                I do not understand you, Ardent, at times reasonably expound, and sometimes, as for example here:
                Quote: Ardent
                ARMENIAN she and the Armenians themselves know, not our people
                - like a SCHOOL yelling at the whole site, although according to some statements, they even served in the army / how did they command it? /.
                I live in Rostov-on-Don and can immediately voice a couple of dozens of streets named after the Armenians, and other nations too.
            3. vadimN
              vadimN 3 December 2012 15: 00
              +4
              Quote: Vadivak
              Director of the agency - Maya Levanovna Vlasova by nationality is not at all one of those foreigners who came here at 41 for a "pleasant vacation"


              This is the fruit of a new time. The worldview of such persons is formed by the complete destruction of patriotic upbringing in the country, duping the reform of education, imposing by all means (media) the cult of primitive passions, violence and money.
              What do you want from young people raised on "House-2" and who do not know their history ...
              There is only one way to rectify the situation - a radical change in the educational system in the country and the return to the state of the role of moral-patriotic educator.

              But ... I’m afraid that this will not happen ... the current government does not need this ... Fursenko’s business lives on and wins ...
            4. enkor
              enkor 3 December 2012 21: 01
              0
              Bitch. What to say.
            5. Azzzwer
              Azzzwer 4 December 2012 11: 52
              +1
              Vadivak,
              Vadivak, And don’t look at the surname, look at the name and patronymic
          3. LION
            LION 3 December 2012 11: 00
            +22
            We have a legend in Volgograd. Once a year, Mother Motherland waves its sword. This time, apparently, she will hit the wise men from the city hall and the region. administration.
            1. Bykov.
              Bykov. 3 December 2012 12: 08
              +9
              Quote: LION
              We have a legend in Volgograd. Once a year, Mother Motherland waves its sword. This time, apparently, she will hit the wise men from the city hall and the region. administration.

              Yes, as with the classics.? .. "... They live, not feeling the Country under them ...", but you need to feel it, with a sword in the head, this is what you need, how is it ...? "a little mind can enter through a hole in the head ..."
              1. Nose
                Nose 3 December 2012 12: 57
                +6
                There was also one creative artist, Mr. Matveychev, by the way, his patriotic articles were discussed more than once on this site, so that for some presentation the Mother of the Mother figured a dress in a sarafan, so to speak - a new way of thinking!
                1. SAVA555.IVANOV
                  SAVA555.IVANOV 5 December 2012 09: 42
                  +2
                  Quote: Nose
                  There was also one creative artist, Mr. Matveychev, by the way, his patriotic articles were discussed more than once on this site, so that for some presentation the Mother of the Mother figured a dress in a sarafan, so to speak - a new way of thinking!

                  Such degenerates "float" all the time, then they devour supplements and feed others, then they join the sects, then they create all sorts of abominations with their bodies. They have "creative" thoughts, so what to take with the feeble-minded !!!!! ??
              2. in reserve
                in reserve 3 December 2012 15: 35
                +3

                Bykov
                Yes, as with the classics.? .. "... They live, not feeling the Country under them ...", but you need to feel it, with a sword in the head, this is what you need, how is it ...? "a little mind can enter through a hole in the head ..."


                Yes, we have all the officials "COUNTRIES DO NOT FEEL" , just ordinary people, it’s now the smell has reached them in connection with the exposure of Oboronservis and then weakly.
                1. Ymidge
                  Ymidge 3 December 2012 16: 22
                  +7
                  Quote: in stock
                  Yes, all our officials "DO NOT FEEL THE COUNTRIES"

                  They don’t smell sticks. An official dulls without a stick!
              3. Bykov.
                Bykov. 4 December 2012 06: 17
                +2
                EVERYONE! EVERYONE! TASS IS AUTHORIZED TO STATE: Officials involved in the scandal, with the change of the symbol of the city of Volgograd from Motherland, which no one knows ..... PUNISHED !!!!!
                LOOK HERE.
                http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_22430/ВСЕМ
              4. Bykov.
                Bykov. 4 December 2012 06: 40
                0
                EVERYONE! EVERYONE! TASS IS AUTHORIZED TO STATE: Officials involved in the scandal with the change of the symbol of the city of Volgograd, from Motherland Mother knows nothing .... PUNISHED !!!!!
                VIEW HERE
                http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_22430/
                HOORAY ! ! ! COMRADE! ! !
                PS In the top "comment" error, the correct link is here:
                http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_22430/
            2. подводник
              подводник 3 December 2012 15: 04
              0
              I thought you would say: "In Stalingrad ..."
            3. Jin
              Jin 3 December 2012 15: 21
              +1
              Quote: LION
              We have a legend in Volgograd. Once a year, Mother Motherland waves its sword. This time, apparently, she will hit the wise men from the city hall and the region. administration.


              Yes, in a stronger way! Hope that you are Volga neighbors (I myself am from Samara), do not let us down !!! And make all this nonsense to cram your bureaucrats ... well, you yourself know where !!! Support to you and victory in this good field !!! We are brothers !!! Stomp this nits in the bud, as our grandfathers near Stalingrad trampled fascist scum !!! So that I couldn’t raise my heads !!! Eternal glory and memory to the fallen, glory to Volgograd-Stalingrad and may the Motherland Motherland rise forever on Mamaev Kurgan !!!
          4. JackTheRipper
            JackTheRipper 3 December 2012 12: 38
            +10
            There you are

            not our statue
            1. kostello2004
              kostello2004 3 December 2012 13: 55
              -34
              that you are all fed up, it seems to me a good idea to correct the image of Volgograd. We need to see what Western architects will offer, maybe it will be a very profitable project
              1. Volodin
                3 December 2012 14: 21
                +11
                Konstantin, is it really a matter of profit for you? .. Hmm ... If someone spoils the image of Volgograd, it certainly isn’t a complex on Mamayev Kurgan, but those who bring in the ideas mentioned in the material.
                1. Crocus
                  Crocus 3 December 2012 14: 27
                  +15
                  Quote: Volodin

                  Konstantin, is it really all about profit? .. Hmm ..

                  Traders and no other! If you smell business profits, they’ll smash Disneyland on Mamaev Kurgan!
                  1. kostello2004
                    kostello2004 3 December 2012 15: 50
                    -13
                    well, and after how much can something be built there? kindergarten or school? 500 years? 1000? One must live somehow and not with memories but with reality
                    1. Ymidge
                      Ymidge 3 December 2012 16: 24
                      +4
                      Quote: kostello2004

                      well, and after how much can something be built there? kindergarten or school? 500 years? 1000?

                      Do you have enough space? fool
                    2. Denzel13
                      Denzel13 3 December 2012 19: 01
                      +6
                      Quote: kostello2004
                      One must live somehow and not with memories but with reality


                      I didn’t ask the State Department singers. Besides $, is there anything in the eyes and head?
                    3. Grenz
                      Grenz 3 December 2012 20: 45
                      +7
                      Here's how you can hate people after reading the comments on this site!
                      More truly not people!
                      My uncle, a kid on Tractor Repairing tanks, until a German sniper broke his legs. Father survived the August death raid, when the air was boiling - you have a conscience to reason whether the Motherland is needed. Bitches you!
                2. Foamas
                  Foamas 3 December 2012 16: 47
                  -16
                  Why immediately so much negativity ??
                  1) The contest organizers tried to represent the city in more "calm" light of for foreign guests.
                  Here are some ?, relatively speaking, brands, the government is positioning for example for St. Petersburg.
                  White nights, the Hermitage, drawbridges, Peterhof fountains, theaters, etc.
                  Foreigners are primarily interested in just what they are driving for, the blockade of Leningrad is not particularly attractive to them, but having arrived in the city they still end up at the Piskaryovskoye cemetery for the victims of the blockade or at the Memorial complex on Victory Square, because excursions to these objects are included in the mandatory program of visiting the northern capital.
                  (that is, having arrived for one brand, a foreigner will also see the Feat of Defenders of Leningrad, such is the policy of the Committee on Tourism in St. Petersburg, which literally "imposes" these conditions for tour operators working with foreign guests)
                  2) Do you know what options were offered at the competition in Volgograd ?? Once in advance against.
                  After all, the competition "for the brand" was not born out of nowhere, although it was somewhat amateurish (due to "youth" organizers) by continuing the open competition for the Best conceptual project for the integrated development of the territory of the 62nd Army embankment in the Central region of Volgograd and the competition for the best sculptural composition dedicated to the countries participating in the anti-Hitler coalition.
                  It is as a result of these three actions that an updated image of the city should have appeared, without prejudice to the heroic past.
                  3) From the conceptual examples of the strategy there was such an option:
                  The city should have a new semantic brand The history itself has already given the image of the Motherland -Mother, as a symbol of victory in everything: in the economy, industry, sports, education, in the end, it provides a clue to the mysterious Russian soul. The monument should become a magical brand of the city of Volgograd. Mamayev Kurgan can be positioned as a sacred place that gives special strength to overcome life's difficulties. "Anyone who wants to achieve success, victories, career growth, etc. in life - visit this place, touch your hands to the Motherland, kneel in front of her, gain the energy of victory, courage, and you will kill doubts and fears in yourself etc. ", In a word, the Motherland-Mother gives the spirit of victory and protects from defeat. It is in this interpretation to popularize the city, its symbol for all inhabitants of the planet. Well, the city of Volgograd itself must correspond to this spirit!

                  1. Foamas
                    Foamas 3 December 2012 17: 38
                    -6
                    Video of the project that won first place (preliminary) in this whole epic to improve the image and update the image of Volgograd.
                    (everything is pretty decent)
                    1. Jin
                      Jin 3 December 2012 19: 36
                      +1
                      Quote: FoMaS
                      Video of the project that won first place (preliminary) in this whole epic to improve the image and update the image of Volgograd.
                      (everything is pretty decent)


                      Oh, I'm melting straight !!! Everything is very decent! I've seen a list of "intolerable" objects! And where are these objects, harmoniously inscribed in this idyll, eh? And where is the 62nd division mentioned ??? WHERE??? What the fuck again? Or you have no one to give a ball on the site ??? am Everyone fought with my great-grandfather and were held captive, and in the penal battalion ... I’ll bury for Stalingrad, bastards !!! In memory of great-grandfathers-grandfathers ... I cry, reading and seeing such a dick * u ... I do not put a minus ... on the conscience of members of the forum ...
                    2. Jin
                      Jin 3 December 2012 20: 36
                      +1
                      Quote: FoMaS
                      Video of the project that won first place (preliminary) in this whole epic to improve the image and update the image of Volgograd.
                      (everything is pretty decent)


                      Why was my comment deleted? What was wrong?
                    3. Goodmen
                      Goodmen 4 December 2012 22: 45
                      0
                      Why minus the video !!! Major's sarcasm !!! The hidden truth ... and not everyone understands !!! But my attitude to the video, I would make an open-air museum instead of all this "... you can't swear ..." !!! And in the museum would reflect the panorama of those times, for the edification of descendants !!!
                  2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 18: 22
                    +9
                    Quote: FoMaS
                    Foreigners are primarily interested in just what they are driving for.

                    I dance who and why is going, SAINT NOT TOUCH
                  3. The Shrew
                    The Shrew 3 December 2012 18: 58
                    +9
                    Foamas,
                    For the sake of career, touch Mother Motherland !!!! This is bullshit!
                    1. Grenz
                      Grenz 3 December 2012 21: 20
                      +3
                      That's right!
                      But do not offend the gray mare! She has nothing to do with
                      They have now renamed themselves: Fedor - became Fred, Peter - became Peter - with it complete.
                      Well, the blue flag in their hands!
                      Let it be fun
                  4. Grenz
                    Grenz 3 December 2012 21: 05
                    +4
                    I would have driven this brand to you if possible at the most I can’t.
                    It has its own brand - light rail - Stops: Pionerskaya, Komsomolskaya; KGB area, etc.
                    Mamaev Kurgan is impossible to position there you can only bow, and you can only position in the blue parade.
                    Learn or remember what those people said - who defended this mound.
                    They did not position - they fought.
                    And I'm not interested in what foreigners think - I am interested in how the surviving defenders of Stalingrad live.
                    Thank God my father, when he spoke in front of the film, did not position.
                3. Grenz
                  Grenz 3 December 2012 21: 40
                  +2
                  Don't be sugary
                  Here it is not up to the Lavelace!
                  You can and should answer like this - you are defending your homeland here!
              2. black_eagle
                black_eagle 3 December 2012 14: 26
                +16
                Do you have an irresistible desire to be against everything? All kinds of Sochi can be promoted as a tourist Mecca, and Volgograd-Stalingrad is a hero city! This is holy!
              3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 14: 32
                +10
                Quote: kostello2004
                it does not seem a good idea to correct the image of Volgograd

                and what is wrong with the image ?!
                Pavlov’s house doesn’t like or a mill ?!
                Quote: kostello2004
                We need to see what Western architects will offer, maybe it will be a very profitable project

                you gored with your grandmothers, conscience and honor how much you will appreciate, and memory? !!!
                1. kostello2004
                  kostello2004 3 December 2012 15: 51
                  -23
                  memory is not a concrete woman, but an assessment of events, and pain in the heart, and a woman is just symbolism, by the way nobody needs
                  1. rapid1934
                    rapid1934 3 December 2012 17: 46
                    +8
                    You stay on Mamaev Kurgan for a couple of hours on May 8 or 9, and it may reach you.
                    Have you ever been there?
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 18: 31
                      +3
                      Do you think that blind can tell what a rainbow looks like ?!
                      1. Ghenxnumx
                        Ghenxnumx 6 December 2012 17: 02
                        0
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Do you think that blind can tell what a rainbow looks like ?!

                        At the moment, I have not heard of such cases, but all sorts of ... rasta her / rainbow / already rotten with might and main am
                    2. Grenz
                      Grenz 3 December 2012 21: 32
                      +2
                      He was not there - he was sucking another prioekt
                      1. Bismark
                        Bismark 5 December 2012 18: 53
                        +1
                        Already see the ground under their feet do not feel
                        Motherland is not just a symbol, it is much more.
                  2. Jin
                    Jin 3 December 2012 19: 43
                    +5
                    Quote: kostello2004
                    memory is not a concrete woman, but an assessment of events, and pain in the heart, and a woman is just symbolism, by the way nobody needs


                    They killed you, scum ??? laughing It remains only to ossat at your grave! Which I do with great pleasure!
                    1. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 3 December 2012 20: 13
                      +13
                      Jin hi
                      Yes, you spit on this juvenile idiot, if you are lucky, then with age he will pass it, he will not be lucky - he will be foolish in the white light, but this is his problem.
                      Yes, and he is a troll without a spark, but they are idiots wink .
                      On the topic, I finally can not understand what image means belay This question is much broader:
                      - in Magnitogorsk (Urals), the “Rear to Front” monument, a worker (facing east) passes a sword to a warrior (facing west), Belopolsky architect;
                      - in Stalingrad, the monument, “Motherland is calling!”, facing east, sword facing west;
                      - in Berlin, the monument "Warrior-Liberator", facing east, the sword is lowered.
                      The point is that the sword forged on the banks of the Urals was then raised by the Mother Motherland in Stalingrad and omitted after the Victory in Berlin.
                      The Germans in 2003-2004 carried out a complete reconstruction of the monument, while our bastards were spoiled in the end, they need to be drowned in toilets.
                      1. Jin
                        Jin 3 December 2012 20: 40
                        +7
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        you spit on this juvenile idiot, if you are lucky, then with age he will pass it, he will not be lucky - he will be foolish in the white light, but this is his problem.


                        I can’t, it’s like an adult, but I’ve crushed such people, I’ll crush and crush them! (((This is NOT A TINY !!! This is a ghoul, an intruder! Can’t it be read? What little one can methodically stir up an anthill without passing on to insults ?! Yes well heh with him! Each has its own business ... and without such, the will of the people cannot be shaken ... it's something like a bot, only living ...
                      2. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 3 December 2012 21: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: Jin
                        This is not a little baby !!!

                        Well, if so, then this is an idiot, I mean the medical meaning of this term.
                        you can’t fix this anymore, but there’s some benefit from it wink .
                      3. WW3
                        WW3 3 December 2012 21: 27
                        +3
                        Quote: Jin
                        What youngster, so methodically able to stir up an anthill, without passing on to insults?

                        I will make an assumption the style of "rinata.kz" is only a little less aggressive, apparently worked on itself ...? he was banned 3 weeks ago, but the troll is 100%. I only made a mistake in my predictions about the number of skulls ...
                      4. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 3 December 2012 21: 34
                        0
                        WW3
                        belay
                        Quote: WW3
                        he was banned 2 weeks ago, but the Troll is 100%. I was only mistaken in the predictions about the number of skulls ...

                        Duc like our young troll-masochist five days ago as registered
                        what
                      5. WW3
                        WW3 3 December 2012 21: 44
                        +2
                        Rinat also managed to collect about the same number of minuses for this branch as this individual, which is why it seems that the branch was about Syria .. deleted it ..... but what is not clear? Any questions, write in a personal ...
                      6. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 3 December 2012 21: 50
                        +1
                        mi sorry, especially the communication in the grid, the first time I did not understand, now everything became clear winked
                      7. WW3
                        WW3 3 December 2012 22: 03
                        +2
                        OK. No problems. + drinks
                  3. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 3 December 2012 20: 03
                    +7
                    You are looking into their eyes, say !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  4. Grenz
                    Grenz 3 December 2012 21: 25
                    +2
                    You Su,,,,!
                    Apparently you were not in this city.
                    And how such bastards .... the earth wears
                2. kostello2004
                  kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 18
                  -15
                  everything has a price, but you need to remember with your head and not with concrete idols
                  1. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 3 December 2012 20: 12
                    +3
                    This I call farting the brain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    1. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 3 December 2012 20: 19
                      +2
                      Alex 241 hi
                      I welcome, such MD is really more useful to chew than to speak.
                      1. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 3 December 2012 20: 25
                        +1
                        Greetings buddy, Zhenya hello, such people freeze for whom nothing is sacred!
                      2. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 3 December 2012 21: 18
                        0
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        Hi Zhenya

                        request

                        Quote: Alex 241
                        freeze such people for whom nothing is sacred!


                        I agree, but there is a remark:
                        anyone is not pleased to join compost, but they also benefit from compost wink
              4. zadotov
                zadotov 3 December 2012 16: 50
                +6
                We need to erect a huge monument to Stalin and rename the city to Stalingrad, create defense monuments, such as Pavlov’s house, scatter different foreign shells and military glands of which there are plenty in Volgograd, in short create a live panorama of protection. I guarantee there will be no end to the foreigners, they love it and here as they arrive, a field for propaganda of our view on the Great Patriotic War. Here I give the Russian project to Volgograd for free. Let them not be offended by this word, but Stalingrad is our brandy brand and now the whole world, and Volgograd is an amorphous name.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 18: 32
                  +3
                  Quote:
                  It is necessary to put a huge monument to Stalin and rename the city in Stalingrad

                  and don’t forget to photograph the reaction of the Hypoderma and Alekseeva wassat
                2. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 3 December 2012 21: 21
                  +2
                  zadotov

                  let me subscribe! The city - the Hero must return his glorious and fighting name!
            2. kpox
              kpox 3 December 2012 17: 19
              +4
              So it will be more in Russian:
          5. Denzel13
            Denzel13 3 December 2012 18: 51
            +3
            This is how you need to hurt your head in order to come up with such initiatives. The reaction is no better either - one was fired.
            They have pure water, the composition of Article 214 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - vandalism, that is, the desecration of buildings or other structures, through article 30 - preparation and assassination. The case must be brought in their relation.
        2. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 3 December 2012 08: 31
          +13
          quote = I-16M "Someone from 10% of the" elite "minus you" By the way, yes. You press on plus it turns out minus - an interesting moment. In Volgograd, the bureaucrats, who were completely mortified, have already been marked by scandalous trips abroad. So that will probably have to shoot from Volgograd.
          1. Nose
            Nose 3 December 2012 13: 00
            +12
            Quote: Nagaibak
            So, apparently it’s necessary to shoot from Volgograd

            From Stalingrad !!! From Stalingrad, and this time must begin the Victory!
            1. vadimN
              vadimN 3 December 2012 15: 04
              +11
              Quote: Nose
              From Stalingrad !!! From Stalingrad, and this time must begin the Victory!


              in terms of commercial categories, the return to the city of Stalingrad is what will raise its status and attractiveness, even in the eyes of foreigners!
              1. Crocus
                Crocus 3 December 2012 15: 33
                +9
                Quote: vadimN
                that’s what will raise his status and attractiveness, even in the eyes of foreigners

                Especially in the eyes of the Germans! drinks
              2. Bekzat
                Bekzat 7 December 2012 07: 39
                0
                For Vadim, and this is a good idea, I support you !!!
          2. black_eagle
            black_eagle 3 December 2012 14: 44
            +2
            Quote: Nagaibak
            Click on the plus turns minus

            Looks like someone minus with you at the same time
      2. Averias
        Averias 3 December 2012 09: 29
        +10
        To go nuts, I just put you +, and set -, this is what the anomalies are. Modera, are you right confused with the left. or Budun from Sunday libations brains wedged. Ardent, +++ to you.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 December 2012 09: 40
          +7
          Quote: Averias
          To go nuts, I just put you +, and set -, this is what the anomalies are. Modera, are you right confused with the left.

          Do not drive the blizzard, your plus is fixed at Yaroy plus, not minus.
          1. Averias
            Averias 3 December 2012 10: 50
            -4
            Alle a garage, wipe your eyes, or the same boudun in your head. Before clicking on +, Yaroy had 23, after clicking on + it became 22. Guess from three times that is more :))
            1. Averias
              Averias 3 December 2012 18: 11
              0
              And for what the cons are, I just said that when I put Yarom + he had 23 pluses, and when he put it became 22. That is, the plus went as a minus. What are the disadvantages of sculpting.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 4 December 2012 05: 06
                +1
                Quote: Averias
                That is, the plus went as a minus. What are the disadvantages of sculpting.

                I clearly told you that your plus passed as a plus. I looked and answered where your plus went. At the time when you put your plus, Yarom put two minuses.
                1. klavyr
                  klavyr 4 December 2012 12: 55
                  0
                  Personally, I ... for both pros and cons, but the fact that the ghoul was punished for his dementia is good! still the others who supported him would also be scolded (about the article)
      3. Harleone
        Harleone 3 December 2012 19: 58
        0
        Why not a caps? It would have looked better
      4. zelenchenkov.petr1
        zelenchenkov.petr1 5 December 2012 02: 42
        +1
        What to say something!
        When Otrepiev began to rebuild the Empire, my dad, the kingdom of heaven to him, said: "The Stalinist lackeys, son, are striving for power!" And with bitterness he added: "Eh, he did not finish them off, NOT DOBIILLL !!!"
        How was he RIGHT, and I - BLIND and DEAF !!!
      5. Evrepid
        Evrepid 6 December 2012 15: 14
        0
        You see ...
        They erased from the memory that the Mamaev Kurgan itself existed before the Second World War ...
        The song "Black Raven" is quite popular among the people and tells where he came from this mound.

        Here is a quote from her
        "... And he buried, gracious, 240 people ..."
        It is about the fact that on this very spot the defenders of the motherland were buried, I will clarify the Cossacks who died.

        Something like that...
        Again I ask myself: Or are Cossacks not people? From whose point of view is that?
    2. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 3 December 2012 07: 48
      +13
      Not better than confiscation, but the bureaucrats themselves to hard labor. And all their earned money for the repair and restoration of monuments of war and history.
      Although Yariy is right in some ways. Even Peter 1 said that in two years any quartermaster could be shot without trial.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 3 December 2012 08: 01
        +13
        Quote: lewerlin53rus
        Even Peter 1 said that in two years any quartermaster could be shot without trial.

        Peter not only spoke, but also hung, and in our time, only we are verily on the site and can hang all kinds of Dogs and the like. MUCH regret.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 3 December 2012 12: 34
          +3
          Well, from the buoy on the Internet, they also quickly review their positions, but of course it’s not that ...
    3. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 3 December 2012 07: 59
      +11
      Quote: Ardent
      and ČSVN forever in the taiga

      You probably meant hard labor with a life link!
    4. Blackscorp
      Blackscorp 3 December 2012 08: 24
      +13
      Apparently, the sun illuminating the beaches of Italian resorts ..... many of them can’t move in any way.

      There is a great place - Kolyma is called, they will quickly leave ..... A good expression comes to mind, though rather rude: "If a chicken does not know where to insert a feather, she inserts it in the ass", here are our officials, in this case Volgograd resemble that chicken ....
    5. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 3 December 2012 08: 46
      +9
      I support in everything except executions! Expensive! Spending ammo on these bastards is too expensive. Paraphrasing V.I. Ulyanova ... and the liberal bastard should hang! And so that it would not be at all unprofitable, it would be advisable to especially distinguish themselves by hanging them in their poisonous tongues, so that others would continue to be advised to throw shit.
      1. Jin
        Jin 3 December 2012 15: 43
        +2
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        I support in everything except executions! Expensive! Spending ammo on these bastards is too expensive


        To you, plus! I have a suitable solution! Here, near Samara, for several months in a row, they are disposing of old ammunition, the glasses are already shaking, and I am, almost 50 km from there! That's all of them in this hole at the landfill at the same time and do not even need to bury !!!
    6. klimpopov
      klimpopov 3 December 2012 08: 47
      +7
      Unsubscribed on this topic a couple of days ago, I didn’t receive a reply from the administration, but some official spoke and said that there would be no rebranding and so on.
      Here they discussed http://topwar.ru/21568-v-2013-uchebnom-godu-bolee-200-voennosluzhaschih-proydut-
      podgotovku-v-shkole-snayperov-vvo.html
    7. подводник
      подводник 3 December 2012 08: 54
      +15
      Dear friends!!
      I absolutely agree with you that this situation falls into the category MARASMA ....
      Officials who stole billions and their offspring, sitting in various youth offices for tourism, etc. etc. for the opportunity in the future to visit gay Europe, for Italian wine, loot, beaches, hotels, girls, and other sweet life, they will go to all the conditions of the foreign countries, to continue to have such a lafay at the expense of all of us ...
      Again, some scum decide behind the back of the people ... At first it was Khrushchev - now his ideological successors ...
      1. kostello2004
        kostello2004 3 December 2012 15: 52
        -11
        envy that is not in the place of an official? or eye pain for their children?
        1. подводник
          подводник 3 December 2012 16: 06
          +6
          Over the hill I was both by type of service and on vacation ...
          To envy the dough .... Verily, you will live longer, you will know more, happiness is not in the dough ..
          And about the pain in the eyes - ????? Che wanted to say something ???, it would be better to study, undergrowth.
        2. Denzel13
          Denzel13 3 December 2012 19: 05
          +1
          Quote: kostello2004
          envy that is not in the place of an official? or eye pain for their children?


          Do not align others with yourself.
    8. baltika-18
      baltika-18 3 December 2012 08: 54
      +13
      Quote: Ardent

      SHOTS-MASS SHOTS - TOTAL R S C S T R E L S!

      I agree with you Yary. Although the reason for the initiatives of the Volgograd bureaucrats is banal. Money. As the brand change involves financing work on this subject, which is practically uncontrolled and very expensive. We planned to warm our hands well, it didn’t work out. These bitches replaced conscience.
      1. bask
        bask 3 December 2012 09: 14
        +12
        It’s disgusting to get those ki who invented it, yours ,,,,, fellow citizens ,,,,,, and even the representatives of the authorities ... edros ... And this is not just an attempt to make money ,, A STATE CHANGE. AND SHOULD THEM JUST ONLY ON THIS ARTICLE !!! But with the existing in Russia tolerance-thieves system: they are not even threatened by the headquarters ... Baltic, what is conscience, they don’t know ... A bullet between the eyes is the main treatment for them ....
        1. yustas
          yustas 3 December 2012 14: 34
          +1
          Quote: bask
          A bullet between the eyes is the main treatment for them ....

          Good afternoon! as usual, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye, but I think it’s better for the solar magadan, I consider 1 to 10 shooting, the rest to plow for the good of the motherland, and not ordinary chainsaws, that would quickly instill love for work ... creatures
      2. YARY
        YARY 3 December 2012 13: 06
        +2
        And THIS IS NOT TREATED BY TAIGIOUS RESORTS, SURGERY ONLY!
        1. kostello2004
          kostello2004 3 December 2012 13: 53
          -5
          yes, the lobotomy of the ardent, it’s good that you only write and do not accept laws or do not lead. stay scribble
      3. kostello2004
        kostello2004 3 December 2012 15: 53
        -12
        For money you eat and drink, ride and take pictures of women, and here I do not need money
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 23: 05
          +1
          I’m wondering are you really like that or are you fooling around?
          we all use it, but not everything can be sold or bought for money!
    9. Vadivak
      Vadivak 3 December 2012 09: 17
      +19
      Quote: Ardent
      SHOTS-MASS SHOTS - TOTAL R S C S T R E L S!



      What for? To hold a national referendum to rename Volgograd to Stalingrad, they themselves will die of anger A "Tourism Development Agency." (state. enterprise) to send in full force to Kolyma, there tourism is not developed, the field of activity is extensive
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 3 December 2012 09: 39
        +4
        Provocation is another attempt to sow enmity and test us for strength, if three days ago the Internet had not made a noise and it would have rolled everything ...
      2. bask
        bask 3 December 2012 09: 40
        +7
        Vadivak Question about the referendum, this is the question number 1. It is necessary to conduct the ALL-RUSSIAN REFERENDUM ON THE RETURN OF THE CITY BY A HERO NAME IV. STALIN ... On the occasion of the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Stalingrad .. This will be the test of GDP, with whom is he ???? With healthy patriotic forces, with the people, or with ..............
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 3 December 2012 10: 46
          +5
          The farther from the events, the more truly you see everything, the great is seen from far away .. Yes, a referendum and not only on this issue, in the people’s mine there are so many of them ...!
        2. LION
          LION 3 December 2012 11: 35
          +7
          Volgograd should be called Stalingrad. The city was defended and restored just like Stalingrad. From the former Tsaritsyn, only the foundations of several buildings remained. But. Colossal funds will be spent on renaming. And apparently part of the sawed. As a resident of this city, I see other problems. And the funds are needed specifically for them. Although they will saw it here. Our city is unique. One mayor was jailed, the other was kicked out of work. Laugh.
          1. Nose
            Nose 3 December 2012 13: 09
            +6
            Quote: LION
            Colossal funds will be spent on renaming.

            Not for renaming, but for returning the name! Moreover, you will have to pay for it once, but they’re sawing daily! So this will not affect losses.
        3. Crocus
          Crocus 3 December 2012 14: 30
          +5
          Quote: bask
          It is necessary to conduct an ALL-RUSSIAN REFERENDUM ON RETURNING A CITY BY A HERO NAME I.V. STALINA ... To the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Stalingrad.

          And it’s worth moving, until these figures renamed Volgograd to Volga City!
          1. kostello2004
            kostello2004 3 December 2012 15: 55
            -12
            if after that it’s better to live there, please at least the formidable Volgograd
      3. baltika-18
        baltika-18 3 December 2012 10: 07
        +9
        Quote: Vadivak
        What for? To hold a national referendum to rename Volgograd to Stalingrad, they themselves will die of anger

        But it would be great. The whole west would be drowned in its anger.
        1. подводник
          подводник 3 December 2012 15: 16
          +5
          baltika-18
          You just can’t imagine what will happen if the city happens to return its true name !!!!
          GDP will be West and local liberals forever recorded as communist dictators, Russia will be declared the Evil Empire in the square, all visas with the West will be canceled, expelled from the WTO, thrown out of twenty, the Vatican will announce a new crusade, and friends will have some fun !!!
          laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
          1. Crocus
            Crocus 3 December 2012 15: 36
            +7
            Quote: submariner
            You just can’t imagine what will happen if the city happens to return its true name !!!

            Yes, it’s better! We don’t get used to it. And then they’ll kiss to death! piderasts.
          2. arduan
            arduan 3 December 2012 23: 16
            +2
            Quote: submariner
            GDP will be the West and local liberals will be forever recorded as communist dictators, Russia will be declared the Evil Empire in the square, all visas with the West will be canceled

            They would return the iron curtain, reinforced concrete, I would say. There will be a need to establish and raise our own production of everything from toilet paper to processors. And the workers will be needed and the managers will be reduced. Spizh ... you can’t get the hard-earned billions offshore, and if you succeed, you yourself will stay here in the Fatherland.
            No, we must seriously think about the urgent renaming of the city to Stalingrad.
      4. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 3 December 2012 10: 41
        +5
        A very true offer for the rest of my life ...
      5. kostello2004
        kostello2004 3 December 2012 15: 54
        -15
        I am against totalitarianism no Stalingrad Volgograd. And they didn’t die for Stalin but
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 3 December 2012 20: 24
          +5
          Svanidze is it you?
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 23: 06
          +1
          aspen stake in your ass
        3. I-16M
          I-16M 4 December 2012 04: 54
          +1
          It’s not for nothing that they called you the Tolerasts
    10. neri73-r
      neri73-r 3 December 2012 10: 00
      +8
      It is time for the city to return its real name, the name with which it is very much connected, due to the fact that we will never forget and this name is not Tsaritsin, but STALINGRAD !!! amThen everyone will know him for sure and tourists will come even more!
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 3 December 2012 10: 09
        +4
        Quote: neri73-r
        and STALINGRAD !!!

        And to erect a monument.
        1. strannik595
          strannik595 3 December 2012 10: 33
          -10
          I ask for the executioner to be FAST, he’s grabbing at us right away, VERY Bloody wink just to dismiss an overgrown official for lovers of steak with blood is too boring ........... but, the hydra of the revolution then begins to eat its children, as far as I know from the history of France and Russia ......... ........ so that YARY after himself in Siberia will cool his overheated head ..... or lie in a ravine covered with powder
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 3 December 2012 21: 25
            0
            strannik595

            the main thing is that you do not have spontaneous combustion in front of the monitor laughing
            knowing you are ours.
          2. YARY
            YARY 3 December 2012 22: 40
            0
            Especially for YOU I convey the words of DANTON in front of the guillotine;
            "Show the people my head, it's worth a look."
          3. Goodmen
            Goodmen 4 December 2012 23: 04
            +1
            Late, my friend .... Late ... At the moment, only radical action. With your permission, I will represent our country in about 30 years ... A very dumb picture is obtained !!! Highly!!! And no liberal-dermocratic methods (emphasis on the second syllable :))) will help !!!
    11. Alx1miK
      Alx1miK 3 December 2012 10: 51
      -4
      I even smell Hitler and Paulus, having merged in Stalingrad, personally shot these coves. From 2 meters to the temple.
      1. 755962
        755962 3 December 2012 10: 58
        +10
        RESPOND FOR MOM!
    12. Igorboss16
      Igorboss16 3 December 2012 11: 02
      +7
      How many idiots! how few rounds! they don’t have the courage to do it conceived, and if they dare even touch the symbol of Volgograd with a finger, the consequences will be catastrophic, they are trying to destroy our history, and it plays a very important role in our future
    13. JackTheRipper
      JackTheRipper 3 December 2012 12: 16
      +6
      Every time I look at Yaroy’s comments and every time I am amazed). From habitual and monotonous: "Whoever comes to us with a sword is from the sword and ...", "Our armored train is on the side track!", "The Russian land has stood and will stand on that!" it is separated by an abyss).
      He has some kind of gift in this regard).
    14. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 14: 01
      -9
      What is it suddenly in the taiga? There, among other things, good people live, worthy. and science cities. and yes you need to heal in the dispensary, and it painfully attracts everyone to executions and ezikutsii
    15. Ymidge
      Ymidge 3 December 2012 16: 17
      +4
      Quote: Ardent

      SHOTS-MASS SHOTS - TOTAL R A C S T R E L S

      No, shooting is not a method, but drowning in an outhouse is just that!
    16. Krilion
      Krilion 3 December 2012 16: 45
      +1
      the witch’s sabbath is canceled .. four official initiators have already been punished, one was fired ... maybe the other three will be fired too ...
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 18: 33
        0
        Quote: Krilion
        maybe the other three will be fired too ...

        maybe we’ll hang it? feel
    17. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 3 December 2012 17: 50
      +3
      YARY hi
      I fully support, the bureaucrats have played so much in the Matrix in which they live that they have completely lost the banks of the real world, and even that - they can play it out am
      1. JackTheRipper
        JackTheRipper 3 December 2012 18: 35
        0

        It's time to put it to the wall.
    18. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 3 December 2012 18: 06
      0
      YARY hi
      It seems that the bureaucrats living in their Matrix have completely lost the coast of real, looking at people like them who really yearn for Soviet punitive medicine crying , it’s not just like this, when even the instinct of self-preservation fills up stupidity, this phenomenon should be seriously studied in institutions with soft walls, straitjackets and a haloperidol course.
    19. enkor
      enkor 3 December 2012 20: 59
      0
      Fair. According to merit.
    20. dimanf
      dimanf 3 December 2012 22: 37
      +1
      Quote: Ardent

      SHOTS-MASS SHOTS - TOTAL R S C S T R E L S!
      All these traitors are in public! With reading on the All-Russian radio their "pearls" and ChSVN forever in the taiga!

      and start with the Kremlin !!!!
    21. zelenchenkov.petr1
      zelenchenkov.petr1 5 December 2012 02: 31
      0
      What kind of mismanagement is such ... to human resources?
      Yes, and patron! on this very ..... again.
      In the Gulag .... in the Arctic ... to explore the vastness of the Motherland!
      Joseph Vissarionovich, respected comrade Yry, was careful about the material means of the Fatherland! You got excited, got excited !!!
      However, Vlad once said that it was necessary to introduce some requirements into the official instructions of the OFFICIALS, his, his .... local representatives, in terms of patriotism, and so he completely hobbled!
      Vladimir, somehow it’s bad, even BAD; said we believed you and VOTED FOR YOU, and you ...... FORGOTTEN !!!
      How do you understand something, Vladimir ?! VRALLll, what is CHA ???
    22. rom8622
      rom8622 6 December 2012 00: 21
      0
      I support with arms and legs, these creatures need to be crushed like creeping reptiles !!!
    23. kostiknet
      kostiknet 6 December 2012 09: 48
      0
      I am categorically against the execution of such creatively advanced intellectuals !!!! These undoubtedly smart and worthy people will not have time to understand the depth of their delusions! In our time, people should be treated more gently, and problems should be looked at more broadly! Grow above yourself. NO NO AND ONE MORE TIME NO! NO SHOOTING. This is an anachronism and a relic of the past. Only massive and public (even with online broadcasting) bathing in not strong acid solutions !!! In transparent tanks. Then the time for realizing mistakes will be and others will not want to make mistakes! And then a vulgar bullet now will surprise no one and will not frighten anyone. (and they know (these same "smart, etc ... that no one will shoot them. We have a motatorium, just like in GEYROPE, his mother ...)
    24. Bekzat
      Bekzat 6 December 2012 15: 57
      0
      Greetings to all, for Yary, you managed to get ahead of me with such a post, and you are RIGHT !!! These officials were sold for "green" !!!
  2. I-16M
    I-16M 3 December 2012 07: 48
    +11
    It's time to put these degenerates to the wall
    1. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 13: 52
      -8
      will you first get up?
      1. подводник
        подводник 3 December 2012 15: 17
        +1
        Right behind you.
        1. Jin
          Jin 3 December 2012 15: 58
          +5
          Quote: submariner
          Right behind you.


          Yes, he is not worth the bullet and you should not get up behind him !!! They must be stoned with such stones; they are not worthy of more
          1. kostello2004
            kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 34
            -9
            Wow, you are not knowing a person throwing bullets at him. so before the article of the Criminal Code of Doty, you can well or ban
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 18: 34
              +4
              Quote: kostello2004
              so before the article of the Criminal Code of Doty you can

              against you to violate Article 111, especially paragraph 2 a) b) and c) of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation
              1. Denzel13
                Denzel13 3 December 2012 19: 41
                +3
                Vasilenko Vladimir, don’t need to mess with his wretched, he himself will run into sooner or later, although at such a pace it is sooner soon.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 23: 08
                  +1
                  I'm wondering if he has the courage to call his name enough?
            2. Denzel13
              Denzel13 3 December 2012 19: 10
              +2
              Quote: kostello2004
              so before the article of the Criminal Code of Doty you can


              To do this, at least you lack legal literacy, otherwise they would not have written such nonsense.
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 3 December 2012 18: 50
            +3
            Quote: Jin
            Yes, he is not worth the bullet and you should not get up behind him !!! They must be stoned with such stones; they are not worthy of more

            and this is not the case!
            Just honest and decent people should rally and stop being indifferent!
            1. Jin
              Jin 3 December 2012 19: 07
              +3
              Quote: Yarbay
              Just honest and decent people should rally and stop being indifferent!


              Alibek! One hundred years, one hundred winters! How are you? What do you say about all this?
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 3 December 2012 19: 20
                +1
                Quote: Jin
                Alibek! One hundred years, one hundred winters! How are you? What do you say about all this?

                I’ll say I'm trying to kill memory !!
                And all because we all show indifference!
                I remember here how the monument was destroyed in a certain city and the lands of the Russian Orthodox Church were transferred! That is, patriotism is being killed by all means!
                1. Jin
                  Jin 3 December 2012 20: 09
                  +3
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  And all because we all show indifference!
                  I remember here how the monument was destroyed in a certain city and the lands of the Russian Orthodox Church were transferred! That is, patriotism is being killed by all means!


                  Do you know what I noted for myself, dear? The fact that there are few who are indifferent! And it's like a balm for the soul!
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 3 December 2012 22: 47
                    +4
                    Quote: Jin
                    Do you know what I noted for myself, dear? The fact that there are few who are indifferent! And it's like a balm for the soul!

                    I agree, this is really good !!
                    I remember about six months ago they tried to show on Channel One on Victory Day, another film that denigrates Soviet soldiers and the activity that all the guys showed in order to prevent this!
                    I remember that joy when I officially announced that the film was removed from the program guide !!
                    Cohesion always gives results!
                    1. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 3 December 2012 22: 51
                      +6
                      anytime and anywhere soldier
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 23: 09
              +2
              and it will be possible to kick? !!!
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 3 December 2012 23: 40
                0
                tougher need something like this wink .
        2. kostello2004
          kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 31
          -9
          I can skip, and by characteristic features I don’t belong to degenerates, but it’s possible to think class
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 3 December 2012 19: 20
        +3
        kostello2004
        Otkel gap in thoughts?
    2. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 31
      -10
      and you will determine who is degenerate?
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 3 December 2012 21: 37
        +3
        kostello2004
        Quote: kostello2004
        You will determine who the degenerate?


        yeah we bully We will use you as a pattern.
        1. I-16M
          I-16M 4 December 2012 04: 43
          +1
          drinks Brief, informative and true
      2. I-16M
        I-16M 4 December 2012 04: 45
        +2
        We will determine all the people, including myself
  3. Ustas
    Ustas 3 December 2012 07: 49
    +13
    local authorities are going to offer the world a new urban symbol. It turns out that the world-famous symbol of Volgograd-Stalingrad as a hero city, in which a truly landmark battle took place during the Great Patriotic War, no longer suits the army of Volgograd officials ...

    Sometimes I wonder who launches such nits into power.
    Ay, Volgograd residents, we must defend the symbol of the city, because this is not only your symbol, but also the symbol of the whole country.
    1. YARY
      YARY 3 December 2012 07: 54
      +15
      Uv Genady
      I am surprised, who lets such nits into power?

      I think that this is a matter-POLITICAL!
      And the PRESIDENT is obliged to intervene here, unless of course he is the president of RUSSIA and not the manager on payment,
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 3 December 2012 08: 08
        +9
        Quote: Ardent
        And here the President must intervene-

        This administration, after the intervention, will beat and scream with your heels in the chest, the people have chosen us. Volgograd residents-YOU have chosen a measure for yourself, you will collect signatures for the review. It’s worth starting and quickly the brains will fall into place.
      2. zol1
        zol1 3 December 2012 08: 20
        +6
        I'm afraid the last one! And the payment comes from behind the hill.
        1. Armata
          Armata 3 December 2012 08: 43
          +13
          And we recently held on to the monument painted in cheerful fagots in Bulgaria. We have something to think about at home. There is a systematic extinction of our history. And with the monument, what did these infections decide to do?
      3. boris.uryadkin
        boris.uryadkin 3 December 2012 09: 11
        +5
        Hope for the president, but don’t hesitate. We have a thought, deputies of all stripes, but everyone is busy with their own affairs, and for them we need to unite and create our own party in order to stretch the country, because we only bazaar for nothing, but we need to think and the whole world to decide how to act.
      4. kostello2004
        kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 20
        -11
        this is a purely voluntary matter, and the top manager (mayor) himself will take action on what to do with this complex, which advertises violence and torture, most citizens will not mind if they put a school there or a kindergarten
        1. rapid1934
          rapid1934 3 December 2012 18: 14
          +4
          Are you thinking
          the top manager (mayor) will take action on what to do with this complex[/
          If he just stutters something, he simply will not do it.
          Our trouble is that the authorities are not leaders but top managers.
          .
  4. erix-xnumx
    erix-xnumx 3 December 2012 07: 52
    +17
    Only for this feat of our people on the Volga the whole world should know about Stalingrad, the Soviet Union, and the Soviet soldier. As Gagarin is the cosmos, so Stalingrad is the greatness of our people in the fight against world evil.
  5. I-16M
    I-16M 3 December 2012 07: 53
    +22
    My opinion is that the city should be renamed to STALINGRAD. It was the STALINGRAD BATTLE that decided the fate of Russia and all over the world.
  6. Nikaviz
    Nikaviz 3 December 2012 07: 54
    +6
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ??????????????????? am
    1. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 21
      -12
      here and where does a woman from concrete?
      how the great contemporary sang

      from eton obelisks
      loves our people

      loves our people
      any g ......
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 3 December 2012 17: 05
        +2
        “Appreciating the vast national experience accumulated in all spheres of life, remembering the good deeds of our ancestors, educating the younger generation is the sacred duty of each of us.

        On the basis of historical knowledge, the political consciousness of people is formed, the social memory of society, political guidelines and patterns of behavior are affirmed.

        The tremendous strength and power of Russia in its colossal potential. You cannot defeat a people while its history is alive. And while she is alive, the people are alive. This is the pattern.

        Someone, apparently, really wants to kill us in self-esteem and faith in ourselves.

        Foreign representatives are surprised by the voluptuous desire of our people to humiliate themselves, to voluntarily put themselves below other nations. "

        BUT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT! BRAINS ON THE LEVEL OF SINGLE CELLS. Although you are not worthy of them!

        “When I lived in Russia,” American journalist Carroll Bogert writes in the Izvestia newspaper, “for a long time I could not understand the meaning of one widespread statement. More precisely, I didn’t even understand the meaning, but to grasp what it was used for. The expression was“ How accepted in civilized countries "..." Russian politicians dream of joining the community of civilized states. "This puzzled me: I wonder, and the country in which they live, to which world does it belong? Is it from a pigsty? From a cave? It is the expression flashes in the speeches of everyone - from the head of state to an ordinary person. ”I was especially shocked when Boris Yeltsin, the president of a great country, presenting an anti-crisis program, said“ how it is done in civilized countries ”...“ I cannot imagine, ”the journalist writes. - that, say, a citizen of China. Denmark or Papua New Guinea could speak of his country this way, for them their own country is the best in the world. "

        (Izvestia, February 11, 1998)

        Unfortunately, this is not for everyone to understand!
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 3 December 2012 19: 25
        +5
        kostello2004
        how old are you?
        purely entomological interest what
        where does this come from:
        Quote: kostello2004
        here and where does a woman from concrete?

        from youthful stupidity, against the background of a hormonal surge, or is it already rooted?
        1. WW3
          WW3 3 December 2012 19: 59
          +7
          Quote: Karlsonn
          kostello2004
          how old are you?
          purely entomological interest

          laughing Bravo! Regarding the insect ... there is such a proverb ... a small bug, but smelly ...
          1. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 3 December 2012 21: 27
            +1
            WW3

            if the bug is crushed, it emits the smell of singing cognac, in our case everything is much worse.
  7. EW
    EW 3 December 2012 08: 10
    +12
    Everything is eating like pigs, money, factories, factories and steamers, the country's budget ....
    And with the honor of the PEOPLE they will choke!
    1. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 22
      -7
      Well, what are you writing? You live on lousy money and are indignant
  8. zol1
    zol1 3 December 2012 08: 19
    +13
    I wonder where these bureaucratic creatures were born, studied, who are sickened by the memory of our people! They are alien! The "barrel of patience" of the folk is already filled almost to the brim, further will be what has already happened!
    1. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 23
      -10
      nothing will happen, everything will go as usual, do not incite hatred here otherwise I will complain about you
      1. Armata
        Armata 3 December 2012 20: 26
        +5
        Quote: kostello2004

        nothing will happen, everything will go as usual, do not incite hatred here otherwise I will complain about you
        Listen, climb back into your swamp. By the way, you can complain about me even to the international court for minority rights, you won’t get better from this.
        1. Denzel13
          Denzel13 3 December 2012 20: 46
          +4
          Zhenya, and he is a scary person laughing he complains. 100% when he was in school he was given pendals more than once. Would participate laughing
          1. Armata
            Armata 3 December 2012 21: 08
            +4
            Quote: Denzel13
            100% when he was in school he was given pendals more than once. Would participate
            Hello Sasha. I like these more to morally trample and bring to white heat. Count how nice it is to realize that he is now biting his slippers out of rage. laughing drinks
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 3 December 2012 21: 16
              +2
              My grandfather Zhen, the kingdom of heaven to him, a tank destroyer, simply called these: Captive Romanian drinks laughing
            2. Denzel13
              Denzel13 3 December 2012 21: 24
              +3
              Zhenya knows that "physical" methods are "non-pedagogical", but hands are very asking. laughing
  9. Leisure
    Leisure 3 December 2012 08: 20
    +15
    The bastard, seized power, it’s not at any gate does not climb.
    I agree with the first comment of Yaroy.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 December 2012 08: 27
      +12
      Quote: Lazer
      The bastard, seized power

      But when they indulge in power, their slogans and proposals are completely different, and as soon as he got into the mayor’s chair, all the crap goes to guns.
      1. I-16M
        I-16M 3 December 2012 08: 46
        +13
        With 146% result, slogans are not needed, voters also wink
      2. Nose
        Nose 3 December 2012 13: 14
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        and as soon as he sat in the mayor’s chair, all the crap goes to gun

        This bastard is not the mayor! no one chose him, but some city manager!
        1. Crocus
          Crocus 3 December 2012 15: 39
          +7
          Quote: Nose
          This bastard is not the mayor! no one chose him, but some city manager

          The full version of his post is as follows: city ​​manager of the municipal formation of the city of Volgograd !!! Has anyone understood anything? ..
          1. Ymidge
            Ymidge 3 December 2012 16: 30
            +6
            Quote: Crocus
            The full version of his post is as follows: city ​​manager of the municipal formation of the city of Volgograd !!!

            Well, what a position, such a figure! drinks
    2. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 17: 43
      -11
      Are you not a Soviet military pensioner?
  10. anfreezer
    anfreezer 3 December 2012 08: 29
    +9
    Under the next crazy idea to chew the dough from the local budget ?! Well, yes, they are masters in this ... Probably the old Fritz and their grandchildren, who come to Russia as tourists, Our Motherland is burning eyes, it’s a hindrance to calmly drink beer on the banks of the Volga!? .. Yes, it’s unlikely ... Our Alyosha is Treptower Park is one of the symbols of Berlin and no one there in his direction does not make any creeps. This is the greedy, vile, slavish psychology of the Volgograd (and, of course, not only Volgograd ..) officials. Namely, that slavish, because only slaves can spoof on their people and their history for the sake of foreigners.
  11. DYMITRY
    DYMITRY 3 December 2012 08: 32
    +21
    I tried to post an article on this topic on Friday, why didn’t the moderation pass.
    Here is the data of the vile office proposing this initiative:
    State institution "Agency for Tourism Development".
    Address: 400005, Volgograd, st. Kommunisticheskaya, d.21, office 421
    e-mail: [email protected]
    Website: turizm-volgograd.ru

    Director: Vlasova Maya Levanovna Tel. (8442) 24-26-20
    Deputy Director: Irina Kobysheva Tel .: (8442) 24-26-20

    Employees: tel / fax (8442) 24-26-21
    Secretary - Antonova Irina Mikhailovna
    Chief Specialist - Head of Tourism Development Department - Zaitseva Nina Fedorovna
    Public Relations Specialist - Elena Kurnosova
    Specialists: Ionkina Ekaterina Vladimirovna
    Kovalenko Irina Valerevna
    Korobeinikov Pavel Sergeevich
    Germolid Renata Evgenievna
    Shevchenko Maria Mikhailovna
    Ch. Accountant Head of the Department of Financial, Legal and Technical Support Tel. (8442) 23-67-12) - Anna S. Leshchenko
    Legal Counsel (Tel. (8442) 23-67-92) - Elena Linnik
    Economist - Olga Bolgova
    Driver - Kiselev Sergey Nikolaevich
    I propose to express my opinion directly to the initiators of this nonsense.
    By the way, apparently frightened, the contest was removed from the site the day after the appearance of information in the online media. But, if anyone is interested, I can post a screen.
    1. smel
      smel 3 December 2012 08: 40
      +11
      Women again ... Why did they break everything?
      1. YARY
        YARY 3 December 2012 08: 54
        +9
        But you can’t let a woman into power!
        A real woman babies have a baby and babysit! And the rest is from the evil one!
        A woman outside a mutant family!
        1. kostello2004
          kostello2004 3 December 2012 13: 50
          -6
          no brains, shield cripple
          1. Armata
            Armata 3 December 2012 13: 58
            +4
            Quote: kostello2004

            no brains shield cripple
            First, learn to write correctly, and then I present everything to my own. And do not touch Yaroi, he has more useful comments than you wrote, and his respect here on the site is not blown.
            1. подводник
              подводник 3 December 2012 15: 20
              +4
              Yes, it’s shkolota, the State Department’s undereducated money working out!
              Do not pay attention to this, apparently, from your minuses, the salary is growing!
              1. kostello2004
                kostello2004 3 December 2012 17: 56
                -10
                you insulted me, I complained about you, I hope the administration will take adequate action and you will be banned so that you think before pouring into the interlocutor
                1. WW3
                  WW3 3 December 2012 18: 10
                  +8
                  Quote: kostello2004
                  you insulted me, I complained about you

                  in the commentary of the submariner was not an insult, but a statement of facts ..
                  Quote: kostello2004
                  I hope the administration will take adequate action and you will be banned

                  hope dies last, and the stick has 2 ends ... if in the place of the administrator kostello2004 would have banned you, but I'm not an administrator .... it's not up to me to decide ... but for the first "shard" you will definitely work out today ...
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 18: 20
                  +2
                  and you are also snitches !!!!
                  shorter finished
                3. подводник
                  подводник 3 December 2012 18: 41
                  +3
                  Guys answered me for you ..... INFORTER ...
                4. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 4 December 2012 05: 50
                  +3
                  Quote: kostello2004

                  you insulted me, I complained about you, I hope the administration will take adequate action and you will be banned,

                  I also hope that someone like you will be banned not only here, but in the next world.
            2. Jin
              Jin 3 December 2012 16: 03
              +2
              Quote: Mechanic
              First, learn to write correctly, and then I present everything to my own. And do not touch Yaroi, he has more useful comments than you wrote, and his respect here on the site is not blown.


              Zhenya, I think you minusanul instead of a plus .... sorry! The hand wavered, from the comments of this freak! I hope the mods correct!
              1. Armata
                Armata 3 December 2012 20: 29
                +7
                Quote: Jin
                Yen, I think you minusanul instead of a plus .... sorry! The hand wavered, from the comments of this freak! I hope modders correct
                Hi drinks Yes, I'm not offended. It happens.
                1. Jin
                  Jin 3 December 2012 23: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: Mechanic
                  Hi drinks. Yes, I'm not offended. It happens.


                  drinks The enemy will not pass! Guys, at least with you for intelligence!
              2. Alex 241
                Alex 241 3 December 2012 20: 52
                +3
                Zhen, don’t worry, we’ll fix things with the namesake good
                1. Jin
                  Jin 3 December 2012 23: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  Zhen, don’t worry, we’ll fix good things with the namesake.


                  With all my heart, brother! For understanding! drinks
            3. kostello2004
              kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 23
              -8
              troll? thickly
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 3 December 2012 18: 57
                +5
                Quote: kostello2004
                troll? thickly
                Konstantin, can you troll?
                I’ve been writing here for a long time and most people don’t always agree with me, this is normal! We came to exchange opinions, views!
                I found friends here and took a lot of useful things for myself !! I read. Your comments do not understand your position ??
                You did not write a word about the article, you just tried to quarrel with people!
                I agree people are different, with different characters, but also impossible!
                I often don’t like what Yary writes, but I can’t call him brainless! I often just ignore what he writes and I advise you!
                Treat others with respect and first of all respect yourself, then you do not have to complain to the administration!
                1. Jin
                  Jin 3 December 2012 19: 11
                  +6
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Konstantin, can you troll?


                  Alibek, he went to * opu !!! Rare * ondon .. It seems that he is mocking ... adversary (((
                2. Armata
                  Armata 3 December 2012 20: 30
                  +7
                  Hi Alibek. We rarely meet now, but always like your comments (of course, when you're right, in my opinion drinks )
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 3 December 2012 22: 36
                    +4
                    Quote: Mechanic
                    Alibek. We rarely meet now, but always like your comments (of course, when you're right, in my opinion)

                    Hello Eugene!
                    The fact that you do not always like my komenty is normal))
                    I assure you that I try to be sincere!
                    I shake your hand !!
                3. Bekzat
                  Bekzat 7 December 2012 07: 45
                  0
                  Good morning Alibek, how are you?
        2. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 3 December 2012 23: 35
          +7
          YARY
          Quote: Ardent
          A real woman babies have a baby and babysit! And the rest is from the evil one!

          with such categorical disagree No.

          if you don’t know then here is an example:
          ... men of all time are invited to stand together quietly: in the Air Force of the Red Army, most senior sorties were made by the senior pilot of the 46 Guards. NBAP 325th NBAD 4th VA 2th BF Guard Lieutenant Natalya Fedorovna Kravtsova, later Meklin.

          Nine hundred eighty.

          Nine hundred and eighty times Natasha raised her formidable (though only at night) four-winged car to meet a deadly unknown.

          When the war started, she was 18 years old (she was born on September 8 1922 years). And all she managed to do was to complete the 1 course of the Moscow Aviation Institute. However, since May 1942, a graduate of the Engels Military Aviation Pilot School has been constantly in the military sky. When the war ended, she was not yet 23 years old. But she was already a Hero of the Soviet Union (medal No.4855), holder of the Order of Lenin, three orders of the Red Banner, Order of the Patriotic War of the 1st degree (she received the second one by order of Gorbachev in honor of the 40 anniversary of the Victory) and the Order of the Red Star.

          After the war, she graduated from the Military Institute of Foreign Languages ​​and became a military translator. In 1972, retired major N.F. Meklin (Kravtsova) joined the Writers' Union. No one is surprised that the Soviet? She has written six stories, many essays and short stories.

          I wonder if she is still an honorary citizen of the city, a whim of global politics, in the implementation of which she took direct personal participation, which suddenly became Polish Gdansk? In Severodvinsk, Smolensk, Poltava and Stavropol there were schools named after her. Do they have it now?

          And even more interesting, is it still considered by her to be the work collective of workshop No. 5 of the Orgsyntez Production Association named after the 60 anniversary of the USSR in the city of Volzhsky, Volgograd Region, of which she became an honorary member during the time of totalitarianism? Or have nanotechnologies completely defeated our economy, on a macro scale?

          Her, a Russian, a native of the Poltava region, who lived almost the entire pre-war peaceful life in Kharkov and Kiev, a member of the CPSU (b) since 1943, and a Muscovite from 1945. However, this is another song.

          Natalya Fedorovna will not hear how she is finished. "Paradise airfield" gave her the landing 5 June 2005 year ....

          on the picture:
          Hero of the Soviet Union Natalya Fedorovna Kravtsova. 980 combat.
      2. подводник
        подводник 3 December 2012 08: 59
        +6
        Apparently the descendants of those Italians who remained near Stalingrad promised them (laying in these offices) paradise, if they would avenge their ancestors to us, now living ...
      3. DYMITRY
        DYMITRY 3 December 2012 09: 21
        +13
        Quote: smel

        Women again ..

        This is actually the director of the agency Vlasova Maya Levanovna. A speaking surname, isn't it?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 December 2012 09: 25
          +3
          Quote: DYMITRY
          A speaking surname, isn't it?

          Sluchaino is not the granddaughter of the same? What is the surname. Such and suggestions. negative
          1. DYMITRY
            DYMITRY 3 December 2012 09: 34
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Sluchaino is not the granddaughter of the same?

            I have the same suspicions.
            1. Crocus
              Crocus 3 December 2012 14: 39
              +7
              What a caption on the photo! .. "yaplakal" !!!
              1. klimpopov
                klimpopov 3 December 2012 15: 06
                +3
                Duc from that resource and found out the Internet about what is happening ...
                And there is nothing surprising there are a lot of people, and it is easier there for the news to gain mass character especially "sensation" ...
              2. Jin
                Jin 3 December 2012 16: 05
                +1
                Quote: Crocus
                What a caption on the photo! .. "yaplakal" !!!


                You, in fact, Isaev, discerned everything, plus my heart!)))
                1. Jin
                  Jin 3 December 2012 19: 15
                  +2
                  Quote: Jin
                  You, in fact, Isaev, discerned everything, plus my heart!)))


                  Gentlemen, but for that minus?))) This is all, except for this freak "kozsello2004"?
              3. Ymidge
                Ymidge 3 December 2012 16: 32
                +3
                Quote: Crocus

                What a caption on the photo! .. "yaplakal" !!

                It's time to modernize the signature on "yardal". yes
            2. MilaPhone
              MilaPhone 3 December 2012 14: 53
              +7
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Sluchaino is not the granddaughter of the same? What is the surname. Such and suggestions

              By the way: Envious E.V. Vucheticha whispered that the sculptor fought in the army of the traitor Vlasov. In fact, he went to the front as a volunteer, fought so that a year later he became a battalion commander, from the 2nd shock was surrounded, was shell-shocked and taken out to Moscow by plane.
        2. подводник
          подводник 3 December 2012 09: 29
          +7
          A vivid example of a "young and successful" daughter of some pen-measure ...
        3. kostello2004
          kostello2004 3 December 2012 13: 50
          -7
          Last name says nothing for a person, judge by deeds
          1. Crocus
            Crocus 3 December 2012 14: 40
            +8
            Quote: kostello2004
            Last name says nothing for a person, judge by deeds

            She should already sit on business, far and long!
            1. kostello2004
              kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 25
              -7
              it is up to the court and not you. there are presentations and evidence, go to court, or will you now scream that our courts are corrupt?
        4. kostello2004
          kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 24
          -7
          By the way, a very cute Slavic girl
      4. Simon
        Simon 3 December 2012 12: 25
        +3
        Yes, this is a whole regiment of a woman distorting our history am
      5. Crocus
        Crocus 3 December 2012 14: 34
        +2
        Quote: smel

        Women again ... Why did they break everything?

        Yeah! The women are brutalized for something ?!
        1. kostello2004
          kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 25
          -2
          and not women but women
    2. I-16M
      I-16M 3 December 2012 08: 42
      +6
      Quote: DYMITRY
      how much did not pass moderation.

      Tight here with the publication, he tried, on a different topic. Easier and faster to post in the comments.
    3. Armata
      Armata 3 December 2012 08: 50
      +6
      Greetings Dmitry. Let's see what will happen to our city after the election of the Mayor. Yesterday in the news, I erased beautiful layouts of what will be in place of the 7 keys - Old sorting until 17 of the year. Again, everyone boasted about a monorail express train that would transfer the entire railway to the Palkino area and remove all the railway nodes from the city except the station (and they would leave only the southern direction through Shartash there. I liked the folding chief architect of the city.
      1. DYMITRY
        DYMITRY 3 December 2012 09: 16
        +5
        Quote: Mechanic
        and remove all the railway nodes from the city

        But what about the city train? It’s extremely convenient for me to drive to the country.
        1. Armata
          Armata 3 December 2012 09: 25
          +4
          Quote: DYMITRY
          But what about the city train? It’s extremely convenient for me to drive to the country
          I'm telling you. They want to make a high-speed monorail. Well, since the time of Chernetsky we have had enough dreamers.
          1. DYMITRY
            DYMITRY 3 December 2012 09: 37
            +2
            Quote: Mechanic
            Well, since the time of Chernetsky we have had enough dreamers.

            IMHO: if the Expo 2020 will be held with us, maybe 80 percent of what they promise.
            1. Armata
              Armata 3 December 2012 10: 42
              +3
              Officially, they are in a hurry for the World Cup in 17. But the sorting got because there is a road to the Ganina pit. I strongly doubt that something will be done on our Elmash.
              1. DYMITRY
                DYMITRY 3 December 2012 11: 03
                +2
                Quote: Mechanic
                I strongly doubt that something will be done on our Elmash.

                So do not go to a fortuneteller, as usual - the outskirts by the residual principle. First of all, the center. When did they remove the prison from the center, they did not say anything?
                1. Armata
                  Armata 3 December 2012 11: 19
                  +4
                  Quote: DYMITRY
                  When did they remove the prison from the center, they did not say anything?
                  What for?. There is a beautiful view. On Radishchev, a house with the name "Royal Palace" was built on the site of the memorial to those killed in the civil war and the fountain of mother's tears (more precisely, the memorial remained, but the fountain was dismantled) a house called "Royal Palace" (can you see it? to the Ivanovsky cemetery and prison. I was rolling from the advertising slogan of this house. "Buy yourself an apartment with a view of the future." Either the advertiser is wildly creative, or too stupid people live in this house laughing So, a pre-trial detention center and a jailholder are needed there so that those who buy apartments there will see their new location and conditions.
                  1. DYMITRY
                    DYMITRY 3 December 2012 11: 30
                    +3
                    Quote: Mechanic
                    Buy yourself an apartment with a view of the future. "

                    laughing
                    They asked FIFA to remove the prison, and it seemed like ours agreed. And I don’t know how true it is, but it seems like there is a project for restructuring the prison into a hotel)))
                    1. Leisure
                      Leisure 3 December 2012 12: 34
                      +4
                      They also want to remove the OMM institute, because of the foot-footed players.
                      1. Armata
                        Armata 3 December 2012 12: 55
                        +3
                        Quote: Lazer
                        They also want to remove the OMM institute, because of the foot-footed players

                        But is he still working there? I thought it had long been closed.
                      2. Leisure
                        Leisure 3 December 2012 16: 33
                        +1
                        It works and benefits people, real.
    4. Fox
      Fox 3 December 2012 08: 52
      +5
      all around Jews ...
      1. kostello2004
        kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 26
        -7
        and that Jews are not people? they built their state splendidly, the best army, the best meitsin, advanced discoveries, maybe it’s not worth it to stop them from developing our state? no need to blame the Jews
    5. подводник
      подводник 3 December 2012 08: 57
      +6
      Lay it out !!! So that everyone sees !!!!
      1. DYMITRY
        DYMITRY 3 December 2012 09: 18
        +1
        Quote: submariner

        Lay it out !!! So that everyone sees !!!!
        1. подводник
          подводник 3 December 2012 09: 32
          0
          I can’t increase .... to read ...
          1. DYMITRY
            DYMITRY 3 December 2012 09: 38
            0
            I can’t send the file to the PM. I can send in the mail.
    6. Narkom
      Narkom 3 December 2012 09: 38
      +2
      Here on this list and put ... scum.
    7. terp 50
      terp 50 5 December 2012 00: 16
      0
      when did the women have adequate heads? It seems that they were not dropped all of them in childhood on the curb ...
  12. Tatarus
    Tatarus 3 December 2012 08: 34
    +6
    Here they do not swear ... ******************************************** ************************* whether, well, you understand me. It is necessary to stone them, or something.
  13. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 3 December 2012 08: 46
    +10
    It turned out another stupidity (or meanness) of the official:
    "Acting city manager of the mayor's office Vladimir Sobakar made an emergency statement today, with which he tried to reduce the intensity of the scandal around the competition for the best brand of Volgograd. The interim mayor made it clear that the organizers of the competition were simply misunderstood.

    “The motherland, Mamaev Kurgan, was and will remain the main symbol of the hero city of Volgograd - all that speaks of the greatness of the Stalingrad victory,” the acting mayor of Volgograd said. - This monument is not only evidence of the military glory of Russia, it is a spiritual value, cultural heritage of all mankind. And the Motherland on the Mamaev Kurgan - the main height of Russia - will forever remain the common symbol of the Great Victory, the heroism of the Soviet people, and love for the Motherland.
    it refers to the information about the competition that the media are now commenting on, I must say that the project was organized by the city department of foreign relations, but the goal was not to find a new character and new meaning for the hero city. It is simply impossible to do this: Volgograd has this symbol, and everyone knows about it, because the world knows the legendary name Stalingrad ”

    We are on the site of different political beliefs, we treat many things differently, but the Battle of Stalingrad unites us, it is criminal to be silent in relation to our ancestors and children. I propose in such cases to jointly respond to such. (making at least a statement and distributing a similar info)
    1. I-16M
      I-16M 3 December 2012 08: 49
      +6
      + From each according to his ability
    2. подводник
      подводник 3 December 2012 09: 08
      +5
      Just this one io city manager(in the name of Russia!) trying to brush off his stupid and reckless whores in power (just like a stool, when he rushed to Putin early in the morning) ...
      1. yustas
        yustas 3 December 2012 14: 40
        +1
        Quote: submariner
        Simply, this io city manager (in the name of Russia!)

        Well, we already got the police, despite the fact that the Germans couldn’t capture us, the Germans didn’t quarrel, Fascists ... which we now have in the city and so on ... managers ... with .... ............. Ki all of them ..
    3. TRex
      TRex 3 December 2012 10: 36
      +17
      I have been to Volgograd several times, and this is what I want to say to the local authorities: you'd better take care of your roads - there are only two of them, the main ones are humpbacked and crushed ... You will make roads, then deal with lighting, water supply, normal urban planning ... in short, work in bulk.
      Don’t touch the woman - you don’t have that right ...

      and further - YARY !!! STOP yelling YOUR CAPSLOCK !!! ALREADY FINISHED TO MARSHAL !!!
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 3 December 2012 13: 46
        +5
        I join the persecution of the FAR, he should have passed the diagnosis for a long time fool
      2. bask
        bask 3 December 2012 13: 58
        +3
        TRex roads, housing and communal services is all gut .. But this is not, woman,, but Motherland. VICTORY SYMBOL IN THE STALINGRAD BATTLE. !!! Where in the ground lie the remains, HUNDRED AND HUNDRED THOUSAND, Russian, Soviet SOLDIERS ...
      3. подводник
        подводник 3 December 2012 15: 30
        +1
        TRex
        And what kind of woman - for the Motherland, Mother, or for the director of the State Institution "Tourism Development Agency" ??? Are you for the one who wanted to throw new democratic and liberal values ​​and monuments to us, instead of what we now have ???
        Please explain ...
        Do not confuse the landmarks? Maybe the compAS is broken?
  14. valokordin
    valokordin 3 December 2012 08: 49
    +6
    What kind of bastard appeared, this is a product of democracy, remember MP Ershov, who pitied the money to juvenile prisoners of concentration camps, and wished that they had finished it in the camps. Here it is a democratic snout in power.
  15. Bykov.
    Bykov. 3 December 2012 09: 02
    +9
    What the hell is a new character? Let it still deserve such an honor, as Motherland did it.
    What do they want Mickey Mouse? Better to let the local bureaucracy replace Stalingrad, with such "ideas" in Russia, no one should be in power.
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 4 December 2012 06: 30
      0
      ALL OFFICERS ARE PUNISHED !!!
  16. rennim
    rennim 3 December 2012 09: 08
    +7
    Apparently, the officials went over after visiting Italy ... whose sons were killed near Stalingrad under the blows of the Red Army. Or do we have fascism (Italy, the birthplace of fascism by the way) officials soon want to whitewash? What will happen to the country further ... if even the young filthy shoots of the Volgograd bureaucrats are already yapping?
    1. xoma58
      xoma58 3 December 2012 10: 23
      +2
      I think all this bunch of bureaucrats was just bought. It is necessary to urgently dismiss everyone and under investigation.
    2. TRex
      TRex 3 December 2012 11: 00
      +2
      "... But I didn't come with a pistol
      Take away the italian summer
      And my bullets didn’t whistle
      Over the sacred land of Raphael ... "

      The Italian "Blue Division" scattered a lot of its bones in the fields near Stalingrad ... practically it ended there. And now our bureaucrats, at our expense ... Eh, bl ..., you have no mustache.
      1. ac5pr7u
        ac5pr7u 3 December 2012 17: 41
        0
        you are wrong this is the Spanish "blue" division and it didn't seem to be there
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 3 December 2012 23: 46
          +2
          Quote: ac5pr7u

          you are mistaken


          so exactly, she fought near Leningrad, in the autumn of 43, it was disbanded.
          1. TRex
            TRex 4 December 2012 07: 19
            +2
            Yes, yes - I lied with the "blue division" ... these are Spanish volunteers. But the Germans, Italians and Romanians got well at Stalingrad. After the completion of the operation, 140.000 of their corpses were buried in the territory of the "cauldron".
            Whoever comes to us with a sword will die from the sword.
  17. bubla5
    bubla5 3 December 2012 09: 09
    +3
    What kind of power is hell in Volgograd, there all the farmers came to an end, some Sinens, etc., the land has long been sold, like power, it remains to pull a condom on the statue to attract tourists n --- to from the EU
  18. Bykov.
    Bykov. 3 December 2012 09: 13
    +8
    (... the legacy of Soviet times. She (the statue) is associated with something so heavy, tragic, mourning. Moreover, among foreigners ...)
    Yeah, remember the tsuki !! Scary, damn them. This is good, everything possible must be done so that they would not be forgotten further.
    Everything was almost broken at home there, they began to forget, and then they reminded you on it.
  19. Mikado
    Mikado 3 December 2012 09: 14
    +2
    “... the legacy of Soviet times. She (the statue) is associated with something so heavy, tragic, mourning. Especially from foreigners. And we would like our territory to be perceived as pleasant for recreation. ”

    Right now, they will demolish and build McDonald's on the mound, so that the territory is perceived as pleasant for relaxation
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 December 2012 09: 26
      +1
      Quote: Mikado
      Right now they’ll demolish and build McDonald’s on the mound,

      They will sweat to demolish !!! Your fantasies go even further than these officials.
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 3 December 2012 17: 35
        +1
        and a butcher and a chef concurrently will be YARY, the cutlets will be from the meat of reforming officials, judging by his passionate match wassat
        1. Jin
          Jin 3 December 2012 19: 17
          +4
          Quote: strannik595
          but the butcher and chef will be YARY,


          Sometimes you think about it ... or maybe it is VARIOUS and not enough, huh? On all these things, and ??? angry
  20. Ratibor
    Ratibor 3 December 2012 09: 15
    +9
    An attempt on the symbols of the Great Victory in World War II is punishable by restriction of liberty for a term of up to 25 years, or forced labor for a term of up to 15 years (in hazardous industries)
  21. kpox
    kpox 3 December 2012 09: 16
    +22
    At the military assembly (Prudboy) in 2005, after being sworn in, they were dismissed in Volgograd. Of course, we went to Mamayev Kurgan. The contingent, to put it mildly, was not one of us to be imitated: 22-year-old students, "nahyalavu" who came to receive an officer rank in a month, in every possible way opposed any military duties (even at the level of "cadet-jackets") - rastryndyai in one word. It is difficult for me to describe what was happening in my soul when we first ascended to the Eternal Flame: music permeating the soul, a bewitching picture of the changing of the guard of honor ... I looked at my classmates - the stupid smirks and ease of life that reigned on the faces less than an hour ago were weathered instantly. We went up to the Motherland-Mother in silence, sat, smoked, admired the grandeur of the monument. After this layoff there were 3 weeks of the landfill. And it was we - less than a dozen of the most notorious rastryndyaev, who became the most disciplined and forced others to do so. I will not say that on Mamayev Kurgan, we, and myself, thought about things like: "What are our problems, in comparison with that war," or something similar. No, it's just that those Soviet guys woke up in us who, excitedly with their grandfathers and fathers, watched films about the Second World War, who for the words "but the Germans won, we would drive Mercedes" just stuffed our filthy mouths with sand ...
    1. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 3 December 2012 09: 33
      +7
      It’s just that our people still have probably common genetic memory and gratitude to those fallen in the Great Patriotic War planted in our mind by our grandfathers, parents and teachers. I know for sure that in the late 80s, for a Nazi hail, in school they beat the face in 10 cases out of 9, and the only case when the face was not beaten could only be in the game, and even then it was stipulated. For someone to put on a swastika, it was generally incomprehensible to the mind, how so?
      Now ask high school students, many of them do not even know what the Battle of Stalingrad, Kursk Bulge, Defense of Brest are ... but children do not know a lot of things. Now, those who have especially succeeded on the basis of caprophilism from under any "consolidated crap" are trying to further deepen the gap in historical memory. The main purpose of such actions is not to attract tourists and money, but to kill the memory of young people.
      And for this it is necessary, Sorry for the replay
      1. DYMITRY
        DYMITRY 3 December 2012 11: 34
        +8
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        I know for sure that in the late 80s for Nazi hail, in school they beat the face in 10 cases out of 9, and

        In the 97 year, he received 10 days for a fight with the Nazis. Stsuki decided to march on 9 in May. Well, we made out a couple of benches for drys, and cut into the crowd. In general, when the cops arrived it was fun. Natsik went to 15 days, we are on 10. As the judge explained - for the dragonfly. I would have let go with my bare hands, but I can’t do it, because the magazine whores made a sensation as usual.
        1. Armata
          Armata 3 December 2012 12: 31
          +6
          Quote: DYMITRY
          In the 97 year, he received 10 days for a fight with the Nazis. Stsuki decided to march on 9 in May. Well, we made out a couple of benches for drys, and cut into the crowd. In general, when the cops arrived it was fun. Natsik went to 15 days, we are on 10. As the judge explained - for the dragonfly. I would have let go with my bare hands, but I can’t do it, because the magazine whores made a sensation as usual.
          I remember this fight. He himself did not participate, but he heard that one was dragged from Natsik when he wanted to put him in the hollow of the Nazi flag.
          1. DYMITRY
            DYMITRY 3 December 2012 12: 44
            +5
            Well, there was generally fun. The mass joined the people, apparently only the seed was not enough. So it could well be shoved. I don’t remember the ending at all, I was stored in a bus in a semi-conscious state. I’ve caught a shoe in my head.
          2. Dimych
            Dimych 3 December 2012 12: 50
            +5
            Why have you dragged it away? Such useful initiatives need to be brought to an end.
      2. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 3 December 2012 18: 06
        +1
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        It’s just that our people still have probably common genetic memory and thanks to those who fell in the Great Patriotic War

        Alas! Already there are genetically modified individuals.
  22. sanyabasik
    sanyabasik 3 December 2012 09: 21
    +13
    On Mamayev Kurgan, at the foot of this monument, he swore allegiance to his homeland, and there he received officer epaulettes four years later. For me, Motherland is sacred.
    And what is associated with this monument in all s ... owls, I do not know. angry
  23. Samovar
    Samovar 3 December 2012 09: 21
    +9
    I have already spoken out on this topic, but I will repeat - to make such a "rebranding" for the local bureaucrats will not rise. And if it rises, it will come off and stick in ... am
    Here is the symbol of Volgograd / Stalingrad and there is no other way!
  24. scorpido
    scorpido 3 December 2012 09: 26
    +4
    While reading so many interjections I remembered ....
  25. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO 3 December 2012 09: 30
    +17
    The best rebranding for Volgograd is to return the city to its name - STALINGRAD.
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 3 December 2012 10: 33
      +2
      Quote: GOLUBENKO
      to return the name of the city - STALINGRAD.

      I fully support!
      We also got bureaucrats in Samara, for example, the Frunze Polyana district was renamed into Barbosha Polyana, Barbosha is a local gang leader who, in Soviet times, robbed everyone in this area, and did not like the local Soviet authorities, so now he as it were considered a fighter for democracy ... although the whole people reacted to this extremely negatively, but when the bureaucrats listened to the people, they warmed themselves so well on the renaming ..
  26. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 3 December 2012 09: 31
    +5
    “... the legacy of Soviet times. She (the statue) is associated with something so heavy, tragic, mourning. Moreover, foreigners.

    And the monument just fulfills its purpose. WHAT YOU REMEMBER. The descendants of the winners are about the feat of their ancestors. The descendants of the vanquished are about their crimes. And a reminder to all those who want to encroach on our Homeland, how this can end for them.
    But bureaucrats must constantly be reminded that all the same, they are not the masters of life, but hired workers. And that the Russian rebellion is bloody and terrible.
  27. Averias
    Averias 3 December 2012 09: 32
    +5
    Eh ma, take it and make these Volgograd bureaucrats tear this memorial with toothbrushes. You look and crazy ideas will disappear and there will be benefits.
  28. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 3 December 2012 09: 44
    +7
    Now this bastard will mek and bek, that it’s not them and they are all necessarily great patriots (with belolentochnye bandons at hand). It is necessary to strangle these political whores for our entire generation of veterans. Urgently to hang banners to them, that here they are TRADING their Homeland and our history.
    1. vlad_pr
      vlad_pr 3 December 2012 13: 19
      +2
      You wrote everything correctly, and your thought is understandable and close, but nevertheless, the word gondon is spelled with "o", from "codome", I can be mistaken, too lazy to look into the medical encyclopedia, however, I think you can apply the expression: "You are an individual , worthy of a wrapper in a product (No. 2 of the Soyuzrezinobuv factory (condom) ". Of course, this is too grandiose, but about the same as sometimes comes in discussions with new priests and mummers claiming to be a special community (" New Cossacks "). Alas and Ah. The history of Our country is Great, contradictory and immense. And, unfortunately, there have always been enough corrupt products in Our history. Now they are in NPOs (my opinion) and so on ...
      Sincerely.
      1. подводник
        подводник 3 December 2012 15: 41
        0
        Dear vlad_pr
        You will be unpleasantly surprised, but viktor_ui is right in writing this word.
        Yes, according to the rules Russian language and Dahl’s dictionary, this word is written as condom.
        But there is also Russian folk language , according to his rules, I write, as the soul requires.
        So that's it.
        laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
  29. Procurement officer
    Procurement officer 3 December 2012 09: 45
    +9
    It is nice to read comments, we still have at least a little national consciousness.
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 3 December 2012 11: 48
      +2
      Quote: Supply Manager
      It is nice to read comments, we still have at least a little national consciousness.

      That's for sure. Yes, in this whole story there is also a positive aspect, it is nice to realize that such initiatives do not find the proper support.
    2. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 13: 47
      -14
      Nazi chtol?
  30. Bykov.
    Bykov. 3 December 2012 09: 49
    +4
    Everything possible must be done so that such bureaucratic initiatives are not forgotten until the next election.
    And they were reminded of them.
  31. sergo0000
    sergo0000 3 December 2012 09: 56
    +9
    I read the article and how I got a tub of ice water! Outraged, it took my breath away. Well, at least forum users are unanimous here!
    No wonder the president said that one cannot cope with all this scum!
    Putin knew with whom he would deal! And we chose them!
    Of course, it’s a pity that they couldn’t be shot, but their life is very difficult for them! Let the bastards live their lives abroad. am I'll try now to get through to them, renegades!
    1. katek
      katek 3 December 2012 10: 15
      +8
      Volgograd residents have been catching our breath for a long time. It would seem, what else can one be surprised at? The devastation as after the war, the communal apartment is bursting at the seams, and other urban problems. They built us a bridge, the largest in Europe !!!!! So he was almost blown away by the wind. The project still has the longest embankment, exactly for the 2018 championship, but in our climate, this is a separate conversation !!! By the way, dear guests of the site, do you know that signatures are being collected in Russian cities in favor of renaming the city to Stalingrad? And nobody asks us, only occasionally articles catch my eye in the press. Before the heap, you also need to come up with a new brand !!!! In general, our officials are very creative! Ideas from their firebrands and rod !!!!
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 3 December 2012 10: 40
        +7
        More than sure, renaming to Stalingrad will greatly increase tourism.
        1. katek
          katek 3 December 2012 11: 13
          -3
          Why do you think so? In my opinion, renaming will entail enormous costs, reworking documents .... one sheer headache! And now for the tourists. Groups of foreigners come to us, mainly Germans, after all, Vuchetich’s complex is quite grandiose. Do you ask the Westerners what they know about WWII? It’s a shame for the Germans, they try not to talk about this topic. I think that renaming will only discourage tourists from coming.
          1. engineer74
            engineer74 3 December 2012 11: 22
            +2
            Because I.V. Stalin, to my great regret, is gradually becoming the same hyped brand as
            Che Guevara. sad
            1. подводник
              подводник 3 December 2012 15: 45
              +3
              Chegevara nervously smokes on the side .. who is he next to Stalin?
  32. Alver
    Alver 3 December 2012 09: 59
    +3
    if I’m mistaken, then forgive me, but here’s something I recall the case 1-3 years ago when the dogs disheveled the bags with the remains extracted during the excavation of the places of battle (the bags were laid not far from the excavation site and forgot) I remember that it was also in Volgograd (what’s the case was 100% and the place where it happened is 80% certainty)
  33. vlad tanks
    vlad tanks 3 December 2012 10: 08
    +3
    Political prostitutes agree
  34. xoma58
    xoma58 3 December 2012 10: 17
    +5
    We must not forget that not only Germany was defeated at 45m, but all of toleraist Europe along with it was defeated. Indeed, scum from all the countries of Europe pounded on our country. And then there’s a monument about how they all hung abruptly here, a reminder that they are no one and there’s no way to call them. So now they are paying their agents to destroy our memory. I think it's high treason! The case must be thoroughly investigated and EVERYTHING must be very severely punished! Or do you think all this happened without the knowledge of I.O.
  35. engineer74
    engineer74 3 December 2012 10: 27
    +5
    I don’t understand who officials consider themselves to be ?? Rebranding stories decided to arrange ?? For them, Volgograd is no longer the place of a great battle, but a source of income. The servants of the people finally snickered, only executions and occupational therapy with confiscation will teach them love for the motherland! am
  36. Kosmodrom
    Kosmodrom 3 December 2012 10: 33
    +4
    I have nothing wrong with women, but ... Judging by the latest corruption scandals, it is women who are the main defendants. Cause? Greedy women - to power, and even more - to money. Who worked with women knows.
  37. Magadan
    Magadan 3 December 2012 10: 43
    +14
    I became interested in this issue and began to read about Volgograd officials in general.
    Her hair stood on end. Here and theft of food in children in kindergartens and scandals around the stolen funds of hospitals. Someone has already been suspended from work, criminal cases have been brought against someone.
    By the way, the bureaucrats there are so fucked up that they do not consider it necessary for the GAI officers to even obey and send everyone in a row to the letters we know.
    There are completely scotched elements that seized upon power.
    Of course, there are enough problems throughout the country, but judging by the Internet, the bureaucrats of the Volgograd frigging are breaking all records for frostbite.
    It seems to me that we should not just seek some kind of cancellation of official decisions. It is necessary to achieve the resignation of all Volgograd bureaucrats of all levels of power. The enemy must not only be stopped, but pursued on his heels until he dies
    1. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 29
      -10
      I love the category of people who write others into cattle and you probably Gandhi, right?
  38. artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk 3 December 2012 10: 43
    +9
    What kind of virus did it penetrate into the brains of our officials, gobble up that part of the brain, which is an awkward one, honor, love for the motherland is responsible. Here blah creatures degraded.
    1. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 13: 46
      -20
      and the Soviet Union’s genocide of peoples is not a virus? the fact that millions of souls are buried and in honor of this more monuments to put it well?
      1. DEfindER
        DEfindER 3 December 2012 16: 26
        +6
        Quote: kostello2004
        and the Soviet Union’s genocide of peoples is not a virus?

        You probably wanted to write "the fascist genocide of peoples", to be more precise, otherwise you are talking about absolutely unforgivable nonsense!
  39. ironman
    ironman 3 December 2012 10: 46
    -13
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Sluchaino is not the granddaughter of the same? What is the surname. Such and suggestions.

    ROMANOV. Isn’t the granddaughter of Nikolashka the second, the very same crap RUSSIA .. What is the surname. Such and proposals.
    1. Galina
      Galina 3 December 2012 11: 43
      +6
      "ironman
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Sluchaino is not the granddaughter of the same? What is the surname. Such and suggestions.

      ROMANOV. Isn't it the granddaughter of Nikolashka the second, the very one who screwed up RUSSIA ..
      I gave you a minus for "Nicholas of the second, that same crap RUSSIA".
      Fight for historical justice, and think in cliches themselves.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 December 2012 12: 34
      +5
      Quote: ironman
      ROMANOV. Isn’t the granddaughter of Nikolashka the second, the very same Russia

      Russia didn’t prosralize, but people like you !!! They spoke in their previous posts about European culture and love for it.
      1. kostello2004
        kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 29
        -9
        and where is europe now?
        1. rapid1934
          rapid1934 3 December 2012 19: 54
          +4
          And Europe is now in the ass.
          You will go to Europe and you will see that mainly Negroes and Arabs live there. They do not work, live on benefits.
  40. survivor
    survivor 3 December 2012 10: 50
    +12
    no guys, empty indignations on forums and websites will not fix the matter. I propose to draw up a collective letter addressed to VVP with the requirement to understand this issue and punish, while publicly guilty! The letter should be signed from the participants of the Voennoye Obozreniye website and by name indicating the places of residence. that would have seen ALL RUSSIA AGAINST !!!
    something more and more it seems to me that sites and forums are becoming an analogue of Soviet cuisines, where people simply let off steam!
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 3 December 2012 11: 02
      +4
      Keep!
      By the way, here are the names of those involved in the topic of the Volgograd bureaucrats:
      The head of the Department of Foreign Relations is Natalya Alshuk.
      The head of the committee for youth policy and tourism is Fedyushin Dmitry Sergeevich.
      The head of the Agency for the Development of Tourism of the Region is Vlasova Maya Levanovna.
      The head of the Agency for Cultural Initiatives of the region is Sobinova Elena Grigoryevna.
  41. Magadan
    Magadan 3 December 2012 11: 00
    +4
    Quote: baltika-18
    I agree with you Yary. Although the reason for the initiatives of the Volgograd bureaucrats is banal. Money.

    No, the Baltic! Long time no longer money!
    You see, just stealing the dough is not the worst thing that can be.
    These Volgograd bureaucrats are already led by SOMETHING ELSE. To human logic, this SOMETHING defies. For example - Chikatilo money or something led? Or Breivikom? I have long understood that maniacs are not only sexual, and scumbags in power are not just loot they want to steal. What drives them all is a question more to psychologists. Satanyugs are all or members of some sects.
    To clean scum. To clean without exception.
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 3 December 2012 14: 06
      +4
      Magadan,
      I agree with you on all points! +
      Only they are not sects, they are membersMagadan, and visitors to sites of another formation who consider true patriots to be narrow-minded people and ordinary people are bastard! Those who also cannot cling to the state feeder are bad! Those who always boast in "Contact" and "Odnoklassniki" of their status and position in society! who is cooler than a house and a car without advertising how it came. These are those who are now really sitting in all mayor's offices and administrations of Russia! Our society hurts! And such organisms as Vlasova are a litmus test by which you can see how much! And what is the worst thing is she after all, he will not understand that he is doing something terrible!
    2. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 16: 30
      -16
      yes to sneeze at all of this, they will move away from the monitor and everything will pass. A woman must be demolished, this is a monument to totalitarianism
      1. WW3
        WW3 3 December 2012 16: 46
        +10
        Quote: kostello2004
        yes all sneeze on all this, move away from the monitor and everything will pass

        This is not true!
        Quote: kostello2004
        A woman must be demolished, this is a monument to totalitarianism

        This homeland is a mother, not a woman ... you stupid creature ...
      2. survivor
        survivor 3 December 2012 19: 02
        +3
        You yourself are a monument to totalitarianism! No, not so. You are just the same monument to democracy!
      3. Denzel13
        Denzel13 3 December 2012 19: 23
        +1
        Quote: kostello2004
        A woman must be demolished, this is a monument to totalitarianism


        Is health enough to do something like that? Have you relatives fought on the German side? A victim of the "regime"?
        All other assumptions about your motives are more likely to be related to psychiatric medicine.
      4. rapid1934
        rapid1934 3 December 2012 19: 26
        +2
        And yet you have a bad dear with your head! fool
      5. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 19: 28
        +2
        Comrades moderators until cell shit will be on a branch?
  42. omsbon
    omsbon 3 December 2012 11: 02
    +4
    I believe that the law banning any renaming without a referendum has long been ripened.
    This will reduce agility among bureaucrats-aliens for I am convinced that these creatures have flown from another planet.
  43. merkel1961
    merkel1961 3 December 2012 11: 06
    +2
    The bureaucrats have long lost their fear, and not just responsibility. The city on the Volga should be returned the name Stalingrad, as the first step to restore order throughout the country.
  44. to4kavserdce
    to4kavserdce 3 December 2012 11: 36
    +3
    God, that such stupid people got to such top management !!!!!!!!!!! recourse negative
  45. demonuga
    demonuga 3 December 2012 11: 56
    +4
    Quote: survivor
    to draw up a collective letter addressed to VVP demanding to understand this issue and to punish, at the same time publicly guilty! The letter should be signed by the members of the Voennoye Obozreniye website and by name indicating the places of residence. what would have seen ALL RUSSIA AGAINST !!

    I agree to subscribe to such a letter. And then the kept women and children of the officials of our city have nothing to do, so they think, as it were, "to shine with their minds." This Victory was not made by their hands and blood, and it is not for them to change the symbol of the hero-city of Volgograd.
  46. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 3 December 2012 12: 22
    +1
    And what is there to be ashamed of? Maybe someone will hit the head and want to demolish the monument - otherwise tourists will come, and HERE can see this from so many points of the city! In the vacated place, something more pleasant for your thieves' eyes to shake - like a monument to an unknown thief ...
  47. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 12: 47
    +1
    “... the legacy of Soviet times. She (the statue) is associated with something so heavy, tragic, mourning. Moreover, foreigners. And we would like our territory to be perceived as pleasant for relaxation ”
    yes put it on foreigners, I would also dodge the name of Stalin to the city
  48. vlad_pr
    vlad_pr 3 December 2012 12: 57
    +9
    This is just an insult to Our memory. The media system makes this normal. Hence the "bastards", "penal battalions" and so on .......
    I apologize for not tolerance, but I hate corrupt ones.
    Sincerely.
    1. kostello2004
      kostello2004 3 December 2012 13: 45
      -16
      everything has a price
      1. Jin
        Jin 3 December 2012 15: 54
        +6
        Quote: kostello2004
        everything has a price


        Put your price tags under your tail, damn you goat !!! Because of such breech guides like you and your kind, they sold half of Russia, Have you written below, bastards ??? am Absolutely fucked up, but a rat slop?
      2. WW3
        WW3 3 December 2012 16: 03
        +5
        Quote: kostello2004
        everything has a price

        It’s like a troll crawled onto a branch ... you got a price of 33 pieces of silver, a yudushka sold ... they gave 30, and this scum was even more greedy and cunning, I asked the rabbis for 3 more pieces of silver for gum ...
      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 3 December 2012 16: 10
        +1
        I absolutely agree, only sometimes the price is LIFE or betrayal as in your case
      4. survivor
        survivor 3 December 2012 19: 37
        +3
        but tell me what your price is. how much do you personally need to pay so as not to see your stupid comments on this resource? I think people will be so, they will throw you a penny on poverty.
      5. Armata
        Armata 3 December 2012 20: 35
        +4
        Quote: kostello2004

        everything has a price
        And what is your animal price?
        1. Denzel13
          Denzel13 3 December 2012 20: 51
          +2
          This something has already sold itself, although I think they did not give it dearly for it.
  49. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 3 December 2012 12: 59
    +3
    They put them there and they are not stupid, they are just corrupt!
  50. vezunchik
    vezunchik 3 December 2012 13: 31
    +1
    and Vaska listens and eats!
    1. vlad_pr
      vlad_pr 3 December 2012 14: 36
      +3
      As for Vaska, who listens and also eats, you are "lucky" from my point of view are not right. I don't know what region you are from, but where I live (Primorsky Krai) it comes to idiocy. My, alas, some comrades, suddenly became newfangled "Cossacks", and out of some fright, suddenly Anti-Orthodox. And without having a clue about Orthodoxy. The main thing, like the Amur Cossacks, is "blue pants and yellow stripes." T. E. As in that joke:
      Hail Grtsko, then Chinese Pid .... race go:
      - ide
      - Here are those, but those are black (yellow and blue).
      It is sad.
      In my department there are both "Cossacks" and mountaineers and Buddhists, moreover, my Catholics and Orthodox are the ringleaders for the holidays, and I, as a convinced atheist, must then be an "independent arbiter." After that, as a rule, everyone is convinced that the boss is a bastard, on which there is no place to put samples. But still, even though he is old, he is a good man.
      With respect.