US Senate approves Pentagon ban on Rosoboronexport deals

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US Senate approves Pentagon ban on Rosoboronexport deals


RIA News. The Senate of the United States approved an amendment to the country's defense budget, which prohibits the Pentagon to make deals with the Russian company Rosoboronexport, including the purchase of helicopters for Afghanistan.

Voting took place on Thursday late in the evening, the amendment was approved unanimously. The ban will come into effect after the president signs the law on the defense budget. Currently, the document is being considered by the upper house of the congress.

The author of the document was the Republican senator from Texas, John Cornyn. He explained the intention to make a document so that the United States should prevent the actions of Russia, allegedly providing support to the Syrian authorities.

“American taxpayers should not indirectly finance mass killings of Syrian citizens, especially when purchases (equipment for Afghanistan) can be made from American manufacturers. Continuing ties with Rosoboronexport, we undermine the US policy towards Syria and the US efforts to support the Syrian people "- said in a statement Kornina, distributed on Friday.

In late July, a similar amendment was adopted by the House of Representatives.

The ban on cooperation with Rosoboronexport was discussed at the congress in March 2012, when a number of parliamentarians appealed to the head of the Pentagon not to buy Russian military equipment for Afghanistan.

The agreement on the purchase of ten Mi-17 helicopters is in addition to the current contract concluded in May 2011. It provided for the delivery of the 21 Mi-17B-5 helicopter, spare parts and equipment for Afghanistan. According to US sources, the total cost of the agreement is estimated at 900 million dollars. According to Russian media, the price of the basic supply was 367,5 million dollars.

A month ago, the Pentagon stated that it did not intend to abandon this contract.

In 2008, the US has already imposed sanctions on Rosoboronexport, accusing it of allegedly violating the non-proliferation regime by supplying Iran weapon. The company itself and the Russian authorities have repeatedly stated that they do not violate the non-proliferation regime and are negotiating to supply only defensive weapons to Iran that are not subject to UN restrictions. The sanctions against Rosoboronexport were lifted by the Barack Obama administration in May 2010.
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    1. lotus04
      +23
      1 December 2012 08: 55
      When the State Duma forbids any organizations, including the Ministry of Defense, to provide any assistance and assistance to the US and NATO forces in Afghanistan. With regards to transport routes. Let our businessmen agree with Pakistan.
      1. bask
        +23
        1 December 2012 09: 09
        In response, it is necessary to close the NATO “transshipment” base in Ulyanovsk !!! And to resume deliveries of helicopter equipment and other weapons to Syria .....
        1. +6
          1 December 2012 09: 22
          bask,
          Greetings to bask! That's for sure said. Beat on their interests!
          Even so, under the guise of politics, the toad probably strangled the American defense industry ahead.
          1. +1
            1 December 2012 18: 03
            Most likely, Russia's response will be exactly as you described them. And in general, it is necessary to resume supplies not only to Syria, but also to Iran, as a response. And now no one will be in ceremony with them with amers. Let's see what the response of Russia will be.
      2. +6
        1 December 2012 10: 27
        This moment will come! I think it's worth the wait to shut off oxygen, as they say, in the most interesting place!
      3. -7
        1 December 2012 13: 37
        When the State Duma forbids any organizations, including the Ministry of Defense, to provide any assistance and assistance to the US and NATO forces in Afghanistan. With regards to transport routes. Let our businessmen agree with Pakistan.

        The Americans will leave Afghanistan and who did not think to come in their place? Or are you hoping for a quiet and peaceful neighbor in the form of this country?
        1. +3
          1 December 2012 13: 51
          Quote: professor
          The Americans will leave Afghanistan and who did not think to come in their place?

          Professor, the same people will come, who are there now, the Taliban. They didn’t leave the prince. So nothing terrible will happen.
          1. +1
            1 December 2012 14: 06
            So nothing terrible will happen.

            Your president does not think so, and therefore is actively helping the Americans in Afghanistan.
            The Taliban will return to power and the "wrong" Islam will creep to the north.
            1. Gorchakov
              +4
              1 December 2012 14: 56
              Quote: professor
              Your president doesn't think so

              According to our president, not a single professor from the "strategic partners" knows or even guesses about this ... And it is categorically impossible to believe the words of politicians, spoken for all to hear ... All the more, you cannot believe these words if they are quoted by Western media ....
              1. Insurgent
                +1
                1 December 2012 19: 36
                Well, the professor also has intuition and not just calculations and formulas laughing
                1. +1
                  2 December 2012 08: 55
                  Intuition like this:
                  Archaeologists have discovered a mammoth skeleton at a depth of 20 meters.
                  This once again proves that mammoths lived in holes.
              2. -1
                1 December 2012 22: 26
                Putin said this in Russian at a meeting with Afghan veterans, and I saw it on Russian TV.
            2. +5
              1 December 2012 17: 34
              Immediately after the departure of the staff, the Chinese People’s Army will move to Afghanistan, and with the full consent of the Taliban, they will immediately pull the pipe to Iran and meet from Iran. But that is precisely why staff members will never leave Afghanistan.
            3. +2
              2 December 2012 09: 20
              Quote: professor
              The Taliban will return to power and the "wrong" Islam will creep to the north.

              Are you afraid that the Taliban will come and cover up drug trafficking? Indeed, under the Taliban, there was a death penalty for the production of drugs.
              1. -2
                2 December 2012 09: 40
                I personally am very afraid, where will I get the drugs now? request
                Drug trafficking from Afghanistan did not stop even under the Taliban - you need to eat for something ...
        2. Gorchakov
          +4
          1 December 2012 15: 11
          Quote: professor
          The Americans will leave Afghanistan and who did not think to come in their place? Or are you hoping for a quiet and peaceful neighbor in the form of this country?

          The Americans will never leave Afghanistan ... Never ... They are not hanging there for nothing and are trying to stay there under any pretext ... They are not building military bases there for nothing, or maybe something worse ... The Taliban movement was founded and is supported by the CIA money, in any case, the leadership of these Islamists is definitely on the balance sheet of this organization ... That is why, in Afghanistan, the semblance of confrontation has been created ... Everything visible is a lie and a spectacle, an illusion for suckers .... The time will come and all this will be revealed, if only it was not too late ...
      4. +3
        1 December 2012 13: 59
        Well, if our helicopters are reluctant, then let grief be on their own. And here are the statistics for Afghanistan.

        Losses of the USA and other ISAF countries in Afghanistan

        Albania 1
        Australia 39
        Belgium 1
        Canada 158
        Czech 5
        Denmark 42
        Estonia 9
        Finland 2
        France 86
        Georgia 11
        Germany 53
        Hungary 7
        Italy 47
        Jordan 2
        latvia 3
        lithuania 1
        NATO 11 (unidentified)
        Netherlands 25
        New Zealand 11
        norway 10
        poland 35
        Portugal 2
        Romania 19
        South Korea 1
        Spain 98
        Sweden 5
        Turkey 14
        UK 438
        US 2161
        Total 3233

        American soldiers dying of wounds in hospitals in various countries

        Afghanistan. 1984
        Bahrain 2
        Germany 29
        Indonesia 1
        Kuwait 2
        Pakistan 15
        Qatar 1
        Southwest Asia 1
        USA 34
        Uzbekistan 1
        Total 2070

        Losses of US PMCs (private militarized companies)

        Dead and missing 1700 people
        Wounded around 9000 people
        1. Kaa
          +4
          1 December 2012 16: 01
          Quote: Sith Lord
          Well, if our helicopters are reluctant, then let grief on their own

          To restore the contract for the supply of S-300 to Iran, let them fly ...
      5. Insurgent
        +1
        1 December 2012 19: 35
        Actually, the United States decided to make their feet next year and they don’t need helicopters, they decided
        1. +4
          1 December 2012 23: 34
          The American coyote on a hunt shot a Russian bear, and smoky gunpowder took. Stands and thinks:
          - Got it or not?
          Behind the bear comes up and says:
          -Well, you got the coyote ...
        2. Kaa
          +3
          1 December 2012 23: 56
          Quote: Insurgent
          us decided to make legs next year and they do not need helicopters they decided

          And in vain, in the air it is more convenient to "make legs", otherwise it will be necessary to break through minefields ... you will definitely have to later ... artificial legs ...
        3. +6
          2 December 2012 08: 57
          In fact, leaving Afgan destroyed the USSR, which was considered invincible. The United States has been moving away from the Vietnam Syndrome for many years and will not stand the second. The law of empires: could not prove that you are invincible, the fear of you disappears instantly and the empire will collapse. Israel has the same trouble, only in miniature, only Hezbollah fought back, that's it, the Arabs lost their fear and the myth of the invincibility of the Jewish state, earned by hard work in numerous wars, was dispelled and no "David's Sling" will help.
    2. YARY
      +4
      1 December 2012 08: 55
      And what are our traitors-lawmakers?
      Can't they refuse the Ulyanovsk affair? It’s interesting, but they will give their daughters to the choir for skok?
      So thrust their little arms into the overseas moshna that together with the ears there!
      1. merkel1961
        +1
        1 December 2012 14: 34
        So the majority of legislators are partisans of Medvedev, and their interest is in the expression: BUSINESS, and nothing personal.
    3. Lech e-mine
      +7
      1 December 2012 08: 59
      Not surprisingly, the U.S. State Department is currently trying to extend its military trade legislation to the entire EARTH.
      Big DAD SAID NO and the whole world should fall to its knees - this is how US sees through the prism of the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT.
    4. +9
      1 December 2012 09: 02
      Let's take off the rose-colored liberaloscope glasses. The State Duma should ban Rosoboronexport's deal with the Pentagon! It's time to drop the stereotypes imposed by the 90s. We and the USA are enemies! Not partners, not "constraining factors" for each other, namely ENEMIES. No deals with the enemy!
    5. snek
      +1
      1 December 2012 09: 03
      Purely demonstrative step - in fact, there were almost no deals.
      1. +5
        1 December 2012 09: 12
        No, the purchase of helicopters for Afghanistan, where employees paid billions. I think the law was born precisely from this scandal, the Bell and Sikorsky lobby were very indignant and crawled out to the legislative bodies, hundreds of thousands of them for bribes, well, cartoons for everyone, and billions of dollars in orders.
        1. +5
          1 December 2012 17: 12
          hrych,
          Look at the root comrade grunt! hi
          1. +4
            1 December 2012 17: 23
            Dear Ascetic drinks
        2. +3
          1 December 2012 23: 37
          This is closer to the truth. Grandmas rule everywhere, but not the ones sitting at the porches. what
    6. IlyaKuv
      +2
      1 December 2012 09: 04
      "American taxpayers should not indirectly finance the massacres of Syrian citizens" - well, yes, they should not, they should finance the genocide of the Syrian people through "democratic countries" like "friends of Syria", the duplicity of the West is directly evident in this article.
    7. +4
      1 December 2012 09: 10
      here after all boobies. already even forgot how to count. Well, ok, let them be bought from China. It’s not enough for them that the raptor stinks, so now something else refuses to shoot in a Chinese voice
      1. bask
        +4
        1 December 2012 09: 27
        Greetings to Andrei .. It’s only in the media that they shout that Amerov’s everything is super-muper. And in the middle of nowhere so many of our technologies were stolen by cheap things from our liberals ... And now they’re trying to buy an adjustable projectile, a centimeter. And, not any prohibitions, State Department ,,,
        1. +1
          1 December 2012 12: 35
          Quote: bask
          Greetings Andrew ..

          hello Andrey. Now I will read the "results" and disconnect (with my own). have to sort it all out
          1. bask
            +2
            1 December 2012 22: 18
            I, too (with my own heart) had to make a physical remark. Our ,, halves, ”our rear ... The main thing is that they be healthy, without them we’ll pe, ne ,, t ,,,
            1. +2
              2 December 2012 00: 25
              Quote: bask
              .Main that they were healthy, without them we pi, ne ,, t ,,,
              1. bask
                0
                2 December 2012 10: 51
                What is true is true, dear Ascetic hi
    8. +5
      1 December 2012 09: 46
      Yes, I haven’t heard a ridiculous excuse yet. The Pentagon is getting smaller and contradicts itself. The survivability of our turntables is phenomenal, there is a video where ours evacuate the downed Chinook - no comment. And the fact that the Americans are buying the Saiga, recognizing that there is no better barrel for work during the riots. And the most important thing is the cost. It is clear that the arms and air tycoons were outraged, as money is being taken away from under their noses, but not somewhere but to Russia. It's no secret that American military corporations are milking the US budget "black". With the help of arms corporations, they first destroy cities, and then, with their "help," restore everything for the money of taxpayers. And all these tales about Syria are a rotten excuse and nothing more.
    9. +5
      1 December 2012 10: 56
      Well, ours needs to create a new company, even if they sell our weapons, and the amers will wipe away smile . In general, these pendonders can’t be understood, one might think that Rosoboronexport is a private independent company, in fact it’s a law against the state, and then what really doesn’t block them with oxygen - right under this law, and they stopped all traffic flows - they themselves didn’t want to cooperate with the state laughing
    10. +3
      1 December 2012 11: 03
      At the same time, as a sign of protest, let all the Saiga's barrels break. And let them not fly to the ISS on our rockets. They have experience jumping from space with a parachute. Here their astronauts can start protesting
    11. +5
      1 December 2012 11: 23
      It is the Americans who are taking revenge on us for the removal of "their" Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Feldmeble. laughing
      That's right, why drive the Russian Mi to Afghanistan (after all, the Russian Federation pays money to Nuno), it's easier to put your own, and even to "cut" money for senators wassat Probably senators studied in absentia from Taburetkin.
    12. bremest
      +4
      1 December 2012 12: 20
      There was no need to harbor illusions about cooperation with the damned Yuska. This is a country of triumphant evil, where everything is saturated with fascist ideology. Personally, I have not bought American goods for a long time and I urge each of my fellow citizens to do and do the same. And if Karzai needs our helicopters, then he will find an opportunity to buy them.
      1. -5
        1 December 2012 13: 42
        Personally, I have not bought American goods for a long time

        How patriotic. good What processor on your computer? Isn't that American? wink Urgently in the trash and replace it with domestic
        1. Cavas
          +1
          1 December 2012 21: 37
          Quote: professor
          How patriotic. What processor on your computer? Isn't that American? Urgently in the trash and replace it with domestic

          How patriotic? laughing
          Turn off the electricity! wassat
          The German E. Kleist created a glass Leyden jar in which a static charge accumulated. A more perfect current source was invented by the Italian A. Volt.
          In 1821, the Englishman M. Faraday discovered the connection between electricity and magnetism and created a device where the magnet revolved around a wire with current. In 1831, he realized that the magnetic field must be variable in order for the current to be generated. The device that generates electricity was called a generator.
          In 1834, Russian B. Jacobi proposed an electric motor, where electromagnets rotated, and the direction of the current in them changed for one revolution 8 times. The rotation was based on the fact that the magnets were attracted or repelled.

          Where are the Americans here?
          1. -4
            1 December 2012 22: 44
            The Americans created the first transistor, the first personal computer, and your computer’s processor is also American. Se la vie.
            Well, of course, your OS is also American. wassat
            1. Kaa
              +4
              2 December 2012 00: 12
              Quote: professor
              Americans created the first transistor

              This song is well known, so it can be argued that Americans, for example, either Columbus created, or Amerigo Vespucci, or Vikings ... As for transistors, the fortunetellers from the Nobel Committee are somehow forgetful:
              "In 1938, Ukrainian academician B. I. Davydov and his collaborators proposed a diffusion theory of alternating current rectification by means of crystal detectors, according to which it takes place at the boundary between two layers of conductors with p- and n-conductivity. Further, this theory was confirmed and developed in the studies of V.E. Lashkarev, carried out in Kiev in 1939-1941. He found that on both sides of the "barrier layer", located parallel to the copper-copper oxide interface, there are current carriers of opposite signs (phenomenon pn -transition), and also that the introduction of impurities into semiconductors sharply increases their ability to conduct electric current. Lashkarev also discovered the mechanism of injection (transfer of current carriers) - a phenomenon that forms the basis of the action of semiconductor diodes and transistors. His work was interrupted by the outbreak of the war. The theory proposed by Davydov pn-junction was subsequently developed by W. Shockley in the USA. In 1947 W. Brattain and J. Bardeen, working e under the leadership of Shockley, discovered the transistor effect in detectors based on germanium crystals. (It is curious that their experiments were similar to the pre-war experiments of the German electrical engineer R.V. Pohl, who in 1937, together with R. Hielsch, created an amplifier based on a single crystal of gallium bromide. For discoveries in the field of semiconductors and the invention of the transistor, Shockley, Bardeen and Brattain in 1956 shared the Nobel Prize in Physics).
              "Columbus discovered America.
              I made a big mistake,
              Eccentric, he’d better have discovered
              On our street a beer hall ... "- drinks
              1. Cavas
                +3
                2 December 2012 00: 32
                Quote: Kaa
                The Americans created the first transistor, the first personal computer and your computer’s processor is also American.



                1617 year

                John Napier created a wooden machine for simple calculations

                1642 year

                Blaise Pascal describes a machine for adding numbers

                1822 year

                Charles Babbage introduced a mechanical device, later called an analytical machine, which can be considered the first real computer

                1906 year

                Lee De Forest has patented a vacuum triode, used as a switch in the first electronic computers

                1936 year

                Alan Turing has published an article On Computable Numbers. In it, he described an imaginary computer, which he called the Turing Machine. This computer is considered one of the progenitors of modern computers. Later Turing worked on hacking Enigma code.

                Konrad Zuse began work on a series of computers and in 1941 created the Z3 computer. It was the first working model of an electric binary computer, which used electromechanical switches and relays.

                1937 year

                John Atanasov began work on the Atanasov-Berry computer (ABC), which will subsequently be officially recognized as the first electronic computer
                Only Atanasov was an American-Bulgarian by birth! laughing
                1. Cavas
                  +4
                  2 December 2012 00: 48
                  In Berlin there is a museum of a broader profile - the Deutsches Technikmuseum, the German Technical Museum. Lovers of self-fleeing carts will hardly be interested in it - there are not many cars there, but everyone who is interested in computers should definitely visit this place. The fact is that the model of the world's first computer is stored here. Moreover, this model was recreated by the very person who at one time designed and personally created the original, Konrad Zuse.


                  Here he is, the first computer



                  Although Konrad Zuse had to live and work in other places, he was born in Berlin, he was educated in it and here in 1938 he designed and embodied in iron his first computer, which received the uncomplicated name Z1 by the first letter of the author's name. In fact, initially the first Zuse machines were called even simpler: V1, V2, and so on (from it. Versuchsmodell - “experimental model”). But subsequently they were renamed so that they were not confused with missiles: V in German is read as "Fau."



                  It is not possible to find transistors or even electronic tubes in Z1: this computer was created 6 years before the start of the use of lamps in computers. Z1 - the computer is completely mechanical, except that the drive is electric. Nevertheless, this computer contained almost all the elements of modern computers, was programmable, worked with binary code and operated with 22-bit floating point numbers - which made it possible to carry out calculations with both very large and very small values.



                  The Z1 processor worked at a frequency of 1 Hz, the machine was able to perform one addition operation per second (multiplication took much longer, since it was implemented as sequential addition), the memory capacity was 0,17 KB. Programs — the computer had a system of 9 commands — were entered using punched tape. In the Z1 model, paper tape was used, however, when developing the Z2, a 35 mm film was already used as the basis.
                  1. +3
                    2 December 2012 00: 57
                    All ingenious is simple!
                  2. phantom359
                    +1
                    3 December 2012 15: 04
                    CavasInteresting unit. Fully mechanical is interesting. I’ll be in those parts, I’ll try to peek.
                2. -5
                  2 December 2012 08: 57
                  You at least do not edit copy-pastes much. The first transistor was documented in the Bel - Nobel Laboratory
                  First PC American
                  Well, the processor on your computer is star-striped
                  What was required to prove, everything else is a flood.
                3. +5
                  2 December 2012 09: 13
                  On May 7, 1952, British radio engineer Jeffrey Dammer first put forward the idea of ​​integrating many standard electronic components in a monolithic crystal of a semiconductor, i.e. he belongs to the idea of ​​creating integrated circuits, the basis of modern computers. America is a thief of ideas and scientists, and we will dwell on this conclusion.
                  1. -3
                    2 December 2012 09: 19
                    The idea of ​​penetrating radiation was first put forward not by Rengen, but by Ivan the Terrible, saying to the boyars "I can see through you all ..."

                    America is a thief of ideas and scientists, and we will dwell on this conclusion.

                    Be a patriot - give up the American processor wink
                    1. +4
                      2 December 2012 09: 57
                      Well, this is at least stupid, if the chip production in Taiwan and China is terribly harmful in the ecological sense, then for good reason let them get poisoned, and the availability of American goods is exaggerated, I have Asuk beetle, and what does the United States have, the components are obviously from Taiwan Electronics Korean, Korean car. All science and technology has been developed and created in Europe, and I, as a European, are obliged to use it, and the fact that Asians (not Americans) are doing it now, but for God's sake, cheap labor. So, the Dear Professor, besides the OS (and probably pirated, although they write that it is licensed), I have nothing to refuse.
                      1. -2
                        2 December 2012 10: 00
                        I have a beech Asus, what does the USA have to do with it

                        Intel processor?
                        1. +5
                          2 December 2012 10: 15
                          100% of Intel's shares are freely traded on stock exchanges, i.e. is an ordinary transnational corporation, not related to the US state. In general, this is a question more likely to anti-globalists.
                        2. BRATISHKA
                          -2
                          2 December 2012 10: 37
                          hrych,
                          Intel Headquarters - in the city of Santa Clara, California, USA. american company
                          AMD Sunnyvale, California, USA
                          Nvidia USA: Santa Clara, California
                          Apple Cupertino, USA
                        3. Kaa
                          +1
                          2 December 2012 23: 48
                          Quote: BRATISHKA
                          Santa Clara California

                          "Now in Silicon Valley there are about two tens of thousands of immigrants from the USSR - engineers who were able to make sure: there is nothing supernatural in the production of gadgets, “only” knowledge, experience, accuracy, competent business organization, international cooperation and competition are needed. ": Http://yablor.ru/blogs/medved-v- silikone / 618162
                          "According to Stas Khirman, a member of the board of directors of the American Business Association of Russian Professionals (AMBAR), today the number of Russian-speaking professionals working in the “valley” is approximately 10 thousand people... “Only in our organization AMBAR there are about 2,5 Russian-speaking specialists living in the“ valley ”and having experience of 8-10 years.“ Silicon Valley cannot be repeated, just like Moscow or St. Petersburg cannot be repeated, ”Himran is sure. commenting on the words of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that a scientific and technological center will appear in the Moscow region no worse than the American one. - In India, China and Israel, such centers already exist, and in completely different areas. In the US, they tried twice to build a copy of Silicon Valley, once in Arizona, and the second in Florida, but they failed. "Http://www.hrc.com.ua/HRnews/index.php?news=6351
                          Salvage always wins?
                        4. BRATISHKA
                          +1
                          3 December 2012 07: 31
                          Kaa,
                          "Russia is Nigeria in the snow." Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google.
                          Bryn, by the way, was born in Moscow
                          Of course, well, the Americans are dumb only they learned to print candy wrappers, and noble Russian-speaking specialists built a silicone valley for them.

                          Gordon Moore, Robert Noyce, Jerry Sanders, John Carey, Steve Jobs, Stephen Wozniak, Bill Gates, Curtis Pram, Chris Malachowski, Larry Page are all purely, immigrants from the USSR / Russia .. well .. name some significant figure which could reflect the state of Russian high technology? Kaspersky?
    13. +1
      1 December 2012 12: 25
      This is ripples in the water. Everything is quite natural. We hate them. They hate us. So what?
      And in response, given the unwillingness to cooperate on Afghanistan, he would refuse a transit point in Ulyanovsk.
      And I would have looked, how many grandmas would have lost the replacement amers.
      1. +6
        1 December 2012 14: 00
        Why quarrel with "our American friends". I propose to transfer the transit point in Ulyanovsk to the operational management of Rosoboronexport ... And let the Americans think to cooperate with him or not ...
        1. stroporez
          +2
          1 December 2012 14: 59
          from that would be cool wassat
    14. in reserve
      +1
      1 December 2012 13: 02
      But is Russia preparing a RESPONSE blow. angry
    15. 0
      1 December 2012 13: 07
      it’s time to agree with the Taliban for a long time, they will also cover drug trafficking and turn around. The main thing is to agree on zones of influence and forward: bully
    16. 0
      1 December 2012 13: 10
      For a long time it was necessary to agree with the leaders of the Taliban. The current government in Afghanistan is not viable. Taliban and drug trafficking will cover and turnut. The main thing is to agree on zones of influence.
    17. +2
      1 December 2012 13: 12
      It has long been necessary to come to an agreement with the Taliban leaders. The current government in Afghanistan is not viable. The Taliban and drug trafficking will cover and "Pindosov" will turn. The main thing is to agree on zones of influence.
    18. +3
      1 December 2012 13: 31
      something like that with your imagination shit gentlemen
      after all, there are other levers of pressure besides Ulyanovsk (here the economy is more involved than the politics)
      Well, you need to push on their economy
      for example, in our city MacDonals open (we’ll turn into greasy smeshariki gee-gee) well, so long for something to find microbes in their grub
      and on the line of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to hint to amers supposedly draw conclusions laughing
    19. phantom359
      +2
      1 December 2012 13: 41
      And after this, someone asks why Americans do not like it so much. The Republican Party is a parasite party that pursues an openly aggressive policy. But Rosoboronexport needs less reporting to whom and what it supplies. American campaigns generally do not consider it necessary to report to anyone other than Congress.
    20. +3
      1 December 2012 13: 46
      and you can also prohibit flights of a Boeing Russia such as large noise
      duck their lobby will quickly start playing for us
      as well as provoke a couple of crashes of American helicopters in Afghanistan
      as they say nothing personal only business (Amer’s main law)
    21. Dendi
      +4
      1 December 2012 13: 53
      Yes, it’s a shame for the homeland, for corrupt officials who will / will not accept any law for their own benefit. Why are there no worthy answers from Russia? Why, if the Pentagon banned - well, Russia banned - discrimination of human rights. Wow pissed off ...
      1. 0
        2 December 2012 08: 47
        and who is the main democratizer of the planet? Did he say bad things about himself?
    22. +2
      1 December 2012 14: 02
      Of course, the amers logically arrive without giving orders to a potential enemy, not that our tribe rushed to buy a foreign one, Stalin there, like a spinning top, and at least the generator turns on
    23. +2
      1 December 2012 14: 42
      They do not want to buy, let them not take it. It is important to legally execute the contract. And for such refusals from the concluded contracts, to receive the due penalty. If the contract was of course concluded, as is the case with Iraq, for example. And we will have enough buyers of helicopter equipment without the Pentagon. Not a great loss.
    24. Machingver
      0
      1 December 2012 15: 31
      Rising from the knees is canceled.
      1. +3
        1 December 2012 16: 01
        Quote: Machingver

        Rising from the knees is canceled.

        Hi shard, that I was glad that the amers would not buy weapons from us? I am also pleased, nafik of your friends from the Pentagon, what’s there when Ukraine joins NATO or is canceled lol
        1. Machingver
          -8
          1 December 2012 16: 21
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          that I was glad that the amers would not buy weapons from us?

          What did they buy? Now you cannot see the components, nor can you see the Syrian market.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          what is there when Ukraine joins NATO or is canceled

          It is strange that Russia does not know our unique vector. NATO is relatively soon.
          From the latter, they learn something not Russian:


          wink fellow laughing good drinks hi
          1. +3
            1 December 2012 20: 15
            Quote: Machingver
            Now you cannot see the components, nor can you see the Syrian market.

            I will not say for the Syrian market recourse but "American components" of Asian production were and will be in abundance, as if the Senate and the State Department were not blowing their cheeks laughing drinks
          2. phantom359
            0
            3 December 2012 14: 59
            Machingver, Shaw - are you so glad that they are running to learn the enemy language? You, I see, can’t wait in NATO. And you thought that if something happened, the first satellites to rake on the most I do not want? Doubt it? Read the story. Ukraine definitely does not need a partner like NATO. Some of our warriors run their ass to lick, but there is purely mercantile interest, but not patriotism. Excrement - there is excrement.
    25. +2
      1 December 2012 15: 38
      "American taxpayers should not indirectly finance the massacre of Syrian citizens, especially when purchases (equipment for Afghanistan) can be made from American manufacturers. By continuing our ties with Rosoboronexport, we undermine US policy towards Syria and US efforts to support the Syrian people. "

      Logically and consistently. Not in order to produce weapons in the United States in order to purchase equipment in Russia designed to (able to) reduce losses, both among personnel and among the civilian population.
      In other words: "What the hell, buying Russian helicopters designed to" indirectly "save the lives of NATO and Afghan soldiers, if the US has a" direct "task, to kill Afghans, Syrians and other citizens as much as possible, using American weapons only."

      Of course, all the interweaving in the formation of the defense budget and arms export is inaccessible to us, but I would very much like that advanced developments, technologies and equipment in the field of armaments should be prohibited from export, until the complete re-equipment of the Russian armed forces.
    26. ded
      +6
      1 December 2012 16: 48
      The US Senate approved an amendment to the country's defense budget, which prohibits the Pentagon from making deals with the Russian company Rosoboronexport, including the purchase of helicopters for Afghanistan.

      Voting took place on Thursday late in the evening, the amendment was approved unanimously. The ban will come into effect after the president signs the defense budget law.


      At the very least, purchases of Boeing civilian aircraft should be banned.
      Ideally, you need to buy domestic, but if today ours cannot make a competitive airliner, then buy exclusively Airbus products. Even if Europeans don't like us very much, they are at least our neighbors and we have to live with them.
      And these descendants of bandits and 3,14 dors, who slaughtered almost all Indians and built their state with the hands of slaves, animals - using nuclear weapons against the civilian population of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, let them continue to adopt their anti-Russian laws!
      We will never be friends with them. They are like the Poles - the Russians are always to blame for everything and everything.
    27. +2
      1 December 2012 17: 36
      The US Senate approved an amendment to the country's defense budget, which prohibits the Pentagon from making deals with the Russian company Rosoboronexport, including the purchase of helicopters for Afghanistan.

      people! do not be indignant - this is really good news! see for yourself - lobbyists of us arms manufacturers legislatively force the military of their country and henchman countries to buy fuf .. your weapons! this is practically an official statement that the American weapon is g ... but !!!
    28. +6
      1 December 2012 17: 47
      Where is our most important weapon - Onishchenko !? wink
      1. ded
        +3
        1 December 2012 17: 56
        Where is our most important weapon - Onishchenko !?



        Kick-ass "Bush's legs"!
        1. Insurgent
          +1
          1 December 2012 19: 41
          Onishchenko bans Belarusian products of Bush's legs in exchange for WTO
      2. +3
        1 December 2012 20: 17
        Quote: sergo0000
        Where is our most important weapon - Onishchenko !?

        Reserve Bet bully + + + drinks
    29. +2
      1 December 2012 19: 54
      Legally prohibit the purchase of Boeings ...
    30. +2
      1 December 2012 20: 43
      Quote: professor
      How patriotic. What processor on your computer? Isn't that American?

      Prots on the computer, by the way, were invented by my and your compatriots-amers there only in the list of money bags, and they made it by hard-working Chinese pens, at the same time leaving themselves topology and technology wink And my compatriots - what I’m proud of immensely to the heap they came up with a percent with a clock frequency of 13 GHz, during the time of elcinoid here in Roossia, wound up as a job Coll-tried to achieve, let us bridge the whole valley with silicone thuja smile , they didn’t give it ... or maybe it’s right, we’ll do a kada ourselves. soldier
      1. -1
        1 December 2012 22: 32
        From the foregoing, I can conclude: the processor AMERICAN Intel Corporation Q.E.D. wink
    31. Anthrax
      -3
      1 December 2012 20: 56
      I wonder why the term rogue countries has disappeared from the Russian media?
      1. Machingver
        -2
        2 December 2012 19: 41
        Anthrax,
        Well, sanctions are also imposed on the rogue ... The rogue asad is either wounded or in Moscow ...

    "Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned), Kirill Budanov (included to the Rosfinmonitoring list of terrorists and extremists)

    “Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev Lev; Ponomarev Ilya; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; Mikhail Kasyanov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"