The head of the armored service of the district was arrested on charges of stealing engines for T-90 tanks

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The head of the armored service of the district was arrested on charges of stealing engines for T-90 tanks

The Southern District Military Court upheld the decision of the Rostov-on-Don garrison military court to arrest Colonel Alexander Denisov, head of the armored service of the technical support department of the Southern Military District, for two months on charges of large-scale fraud. This is reported by the publication "Kommersant".

As it became known, the colonel is accused of stealing engines for tanks T-90 for a total amount of 20,5 million rubles.



On March 28, 2023, 44-year-old Colonel Alexander Denisov was detained, on the same day he was charged with fraud committed by an organized group of people. Now Denisov's case is being investigated by an investigator from the first military investigation department of the Military Investigation Department of the Russian Investigative Committee for the Southern Military District.

The colonel, according to investigators, stole seven V-92S2 engines for T-90 tanks. Such engines are produced in Chelyabinsk at the tractor plant and installed on the T-90 and T-72B3 tanks. However, the colonel's lawyer Roman Budarin, as reported by the publication "Merchant”, claims that Denisov does not plead guilty to the act incriminated to him.

It is not known which other military personnel or civilians are involved in the same case with the colonel. But since we are talking about the commission of a crime by an organized group charged with an officer, the head of the armored service must have alleged accomplices.

Note that only a court can find a person guilty of a crime, and there has not yet been a trial in this case. Nevertheless, in the context of Russia's special military operation, any corruption crimes and embezzlement in the country's armed forces should be suppressed especially harshly, with appropriate consequences for the perpetrators if their guilt is proven.
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  1. +65
    April 26 2023 19: 28
    stole engines for T-90 tanks

    And where do they go then?
    Wonderful are your deeds, blessed capitalism.
    1. +15
      April 26 2023 19: 34
      Maybe he sold it to a PMC? Where else can tank engines be driven?
      1. +27
        April 26 2023 19: 54
        Quote: UAZ 452
        Maybe he sold it to a PMC?

        In the domestic? Then the investigation will be interesting.
        To a foreign one? Then it's even more interesting .......because they had to be taken out of the country.
        1. +13
          April 26 2023 20: 01
          The same thoughts.
          If taken abroad, this is a long chain of accomplices.
        2. +11
          April 27 2023 01: 15
          Quote: FIR FIR
          In the domestic? Then the investigation will be interesting.
          To a foreign one? Then it's even more interesting .......because they had to be taken out of the country.

          And if a trusted company and then give it a contract for the supply of engines for the ... armored service? He stole it himself, bought it himself - Ostap Bender will be envious.
          1. Eug
            +4
            April 27 2023 20: 25
            It will not work - the company will have to explain where it got these engines. But for export, as for me, it’s more real - to cross the border under a different name and application is not a super problem. Maybe in the same Armed Forces of Ukraine through third countries.
            1. +2
              April 28 2023 00: 10
              Quote: Eug
              But for export

              Maybe so, but it is more dangerous, there are more risks.
              And then the article should be "Treason". For such a life sentence you can get it. Or in wartime - an exceptional measure of social protection.
          2. +1
            April 28 2023 08: 33
            The armored service of the district can only buy toilet paper and pens for itself, and then through public procurement. Everything else is purchased centrally, through the MO, and only from manufacturers. or official suppliers
        3. +5
          April 27 2023 02: 53
          To Kazakhstan. We do not have customs clearance

          tttt
          1. +2
            April 27 2023 10: 42
            Resolutions 612, 613, 614 of March 2022 (I can make a mistake in the numbers.)
            Restriction on the export of spare parts for the engine and the engine itself. Export requires permission from the Ministry of Industry and Trade.
            So you can't just take out the engines.
          2. +1
            April 27 2023 23: 58
            There is no customs clearance when moving across the Russian-Kazakh border, and the goods are controlled. To export such a cargo, you need a lot of papers with LARGE seals and signatures.
        4. -1
          April 27 2023 07: 58
          Is the investigation into the murder of the captain of the RF Armed Forces Berega interesting? And so it will be the same.
      2. +7
        April 26 2023 20: 02
        Yes, it is also possible in PMCs, the resource is quickly developed by the engines, new ones will always be taken if it is cheaper! But it is necessary to have in advance either an order, or a permanent "client".
      3. +8
        April 26 2023 20: 18
        Quote: UAZ 452
        Where else can tank engines be driven?

        To Ukrainka, where else.
      4. -1
        April 28 2023 21: 20
        Quote: UAZ 452
        Maybe he sold it to a PMC? Where else can tank engines be driven?

        Dill neighbors ......
    2. +16
      April 26 2023 19: 38
      Really, I don’t understand the point of stealing them .....
      1. -25
        April 26 2023 19: 45
        Quote: Alien From
        Really, I don’t understand the point of stealing them .....

        Just for metal. Why don't you live in Russia?
        1. +37
          April 26 2023 19: 52
          Quote from cold wind
          Quote: Alien From
          Really, I don’t understand the point of stealing them .....

          Just for metal. Why don't you live in Russia?

          Did I understand you correctly? Engines under 3 lyama cost - for metal ?! It's like stealing a box of vodka, selling it cheap, and drinking the money away...
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          3. +7
            April 26 2023 19: 58
            Quote: isv000
            It's like stealing a case of vodka

            And exchange for a bank of energy ...
          4. +1
            April 28 2023 08: 20
            in 2020, in Taganrog, at a repair plant, secret blocks worth 1 million rubles were stolen from the "doomsday plane"
            smashed into color and precious metal
            the guy didn't have enough for a bottle...
          5. 0
            April 30 2023 09: 28
            instincts. Re-read the finale of Balaganov from The Golden Calf. Well, or remember the blue thief Alchen from "The Twelve Chairs".
        2. -1
          April 26 2023 20: 15
          cold wind
          Why don't you live in Russia?

          You know that T-90s were captured by xoxls, engines can go, for example, to restore them. It is possible to load the engines onto a cargo barge and send them along the Don to the Black Sea, and then stupidly reload where necessary. It is worth conducting a thorough investigation into the case.
          1. -5
            April 26 2023 20: 25
            Did you try to read the news?
            November 2021 to April 2022

            Ukraine has no problems with engines. Everything is always very simple. Elementary human greed and stupidity. Stories like per kilogram of non-ferrous metal people were killed in full. And then some kind of engine to disassemble and hand over.
          2. +1
            April 26 2023 23: 00
            I stole until April 2022, the article says, so not for them, but for the T-72 it’s quite
        3. -9
          April 26 2023 20: 20
          That's just the point that in Russia. We don't come up with that. This is Svidomo Ukrainianism, no matter how wide a "metal worker" is without brakes.
      2. +9
        April 26 2023 19: 46
        or maybe there were papers and they didn’t have a grandmother in a pocket to shackle in a share
        1. +16
          April 26 2023 19: 56
          Quote: opuonmed
          or maybe there were papers and they didn’t have a grandmother in a pocket to shackle in a share


          The most realistic option - according to papers, but in fact there is no money or engines.
          But here, even knowing our specifics, it’s not at all a fact that this officer is in business. It is quite possible that they were set up just by those who muddied this whole scheme. And perhaps he is in the subject, or perhaps (I put most of all on this option) that the ideological inspirer and organizer is much higher in the army hierarchy, and this man was simply leaked so that he sat down and the rest came out dry.
          Our corruption is truly staggering, there is no escape from it.
          Rather, there is one thing - the less government structures and public procurement, the less corruption.
          1. +1
            April 26 2023 20: 37
            Taking into account the fact that PMCs in the current legislation have a more than dubious status, and they already have their own aircraft, then for the supply of these private armies from the warehouses of the Ministry of Defense, all those involved can be imprisoned. But in our realities, of course, they will not imprison everyone in a row, but only those who need to be framed. Most likely, someone needed the post of colonel.
          2. -1
            April 26 2023 20: 58
            Quote from: newtc7
            The most realistic option - according to papers, but in fact there is no money or engines.
            But here, even knowing our specifics, it’s not at all a fact that this officer is in business.


            It's easy (relatively) to get "paper ICEs" under financial responsibility, but with write-offs ....
            V. Order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation of March 28.03.2013, 222 No. XNUMXdsp “Procedure for deregistration of weapons, military equipment and other materiel in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation”

            In one, in the army, you can’t even write off the nut. A certain circle of people is involved in this procedure (write-offs), which means that they were all "in business".
          3. 0
            April 26 2023 20: 58
            There are a lot of options, that due to negligence, the colonel did not know that these particular engines were not in stock. On the other hand, there may also be situations that I knew, but had to cover up, someone's jambs. Somehow selling engines seems to be a rather complicated undertaking. Tea is not 90s. Although it is still unknown when these engines entered the warehouse.
          4. +1
            April 26 2023 23: 35
            Rather, there is one thing - the less government structures and public procurement, the less corruption.
            Or maybe vice versa? The less private structures, the less corruption!? A private trader is bashing. And what kind of corruption if government agencies?
      3. +9
        April 26 2023 19: 51
        So soon the engines for boats like "Admiral Kuznetsov" will start tyrit! laughing
        1. -2
          April 26 2023 20: 40
          But who needs them? Even for scrap metal you are tormented to cut. But submarine reactors are much more interesting. All the heirs of Bin Laden's military glory will line up with suitcases of bucks - this is a ready-made dirty bomb!
          1. +5
            April 26 2023 21: 42
            There was a short biography on the Internet of non-ferrous metal hunters who, in the late nineties, stole and decided, unknowingly, to dismantle an RTG from an abandoned lighthouse. The guys did not last long at all.
            1. 0
              April 27 2023 06: 26
              There were three of them. One received medical treatment and, in general, did not suffer much, but the other two ... A year of rot, one eventually died of sepsis, the second survived, but 100% disabled and how long he lasted is unknown.
              That IAEA report with photos of people rotting from radiation sickness is not for the faint of heart.
          2. -1
            April 27 2023 06: 22
            To make a dirty bomb, it is absolutely not necessary to catch a nuclear submarine with a net in the blue sea.
        2. +8
          April 26 2023 20: 48
          Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
          So soon the engines for boats like "Admiral Kuznetsov" will start tyrit!

          When factories were plundered in the 90s, there were no cameras then, then at night a lathe weighing 1 tons disappeared at the 7st enterprise. The official verdict, the workers dismantled and carried out in parts long before the discovery.
          That's just how to take out a 10-meter cast-iron frame weighing 3 tons, the cops could not explain, and did not even try.
          1. -2
            April 26 2023 23: 33
            Dear, I am directly delighted with the bed of a lathe 10 meters long. Did you put blanks 7 meters long there? And what kind of bolt with a left-hand thread, who needed such a unique one? It is easier to enclose electrical cabinets and CNC racks.
            1. +3
              April 27 2023 04: 16
              And what is wrong? What was not taken out and destroyed in Russia. A huge number of machine tools and equipment passed me along the highway from Tuva. From 2005 to 2015, sometimes dozens of heavy trucks with machine tools passed a day. Many machines were in quite good condition. And everything went down the drain. And in the city there was a small plant "Metallist". Turning and milling machines, iron casting shop. There was one lathe with a workpiece diameter of more than a meter. So the frame was perhaps more authentic .... By the way, German production, the thirties. However, it worked perfectly .... So, the factory worked, but it was destroyed. The casting was of good quality. And manhole covers and furnace casting. Now you can't find it. Now the stove has heated up a couple of dozen times and cracked. And those that did before, stood for years ....
            2. 0
              April 27 2023 10: 47
              Ulyanovsk.
              the enterprise had one of the unique machines, there were three or four of them in the whole country.
              As a result, they sold it for ferrous metal.
              The Chinese bought, drove a crowd of people, about 30-35 people, and let's carefully document, measure and describe this machine. The dismantling process was carefully recorded - and everything was taken to China.
            3. +2
              April 27 2023 21: 15
              Shafts were sharpened in Soviet times, for all kinds of needs, but under Chubais it became unnecessary, so why stand idle for nothing?
            4. 0
              April 28 2023 16: 35
              In ship repair and shipbuilding, there are lathes that are longer than 7 meters. For example, for turning propeller shafts that way, 15-20 meters long.
            5. 0
              1 May 2023 12: 53
              You should have seen lathes that machine shafts for hydroelectric generators.
          2. +4
            April 27 2023 08: 03
            When did the camera become a panacea? About 8 years ago, they stole a cable bay with half a ton in weight, sawing it right under the camera. Well, we saw silhouettes in hoods, in the IR range. It didn't help much, or rather it didn't help at all. So, the memory remains.
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    3. +6
      April 26 2023 19: 43
      And where do they go then?

      Sold them to whoever paid for them. No, really, what's the point of stealing something big, heavy and specific, unless for a ready buyer? This is not a lorry with diesel fuel in a tank.
    4. +7
      April 26 2023 19: 44
      Quote: FIR FIR
      stole engines for T-90 tanks

      And where do they go then?
      Wonderful are your deeds, blessed capitalism.

      Yes, it's probably complete bullshit. Where can this bandura with such power be placed? Well, except for some kind of river vessel, such as a tugboat or a self-propelled barge. The question is different, in order to steal it, you must first write it off, then take it out. And this is not a box of matches you can’t carry in your pocket. So there must be documents on the movement in Fin. parts.
      1. +7
        April 26 2023 19: 50
        Hmm... Really people are not from Russia here. He lifted the lid, disconnected the engine, lifted it with a manipulator, loaded it into a body, and took it to the delivery of metal. Easier nowhere. Papers can be issued for anything, but who else will ask them? So the whole factories were plundered.
        1. KCA
          +2
          April 26 2023 20: 40
          This cannot be done alone, at least 5 people, and then the chain will be extended by another 5 people, one of the extraneous witnesses will be, 100% will leak, or maybe they immediately led to find out everything about everyone
      2. 0
        April 26 2023 21: 31
        Quote: Zhan
        Where can this bandura with such power be placed?

        Are few of our tanks rolling around the world? Everyone needs parts.
    5. +3
      April 26 2023 19: 52
      And try to open the Rostov garrison court and look for materials about the "real colonel". The last thing there is hijacking.
    6. +8
      April 26 2023 20: 03
      Quote: FIR FIR
      And where do they go then?

      Google issued ads on Ukrainian and Polish resources

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      2. 0
        April 28 2023 08: 35
        So this, then already, is another article, "treason" and for life)))
    7. +1
      April 26 2023 20: 15
      Quote: UAZ 452
      Wonderful are your deeds, blessed capitalism.

      When colonels steal.
    8. +4
      April 26 2023 21: 03
      "And where do they go then?"
      Here, as in a joke, there is one nuance: juicy details are completely unknown.
      Did this colonel keep the engines in his garage? Or they were stolen even before him, and sold abroad, and he signed for "a small fraction"
      a document that, for example, 29 engines from the factory came to the Southern Military District, as it should be along with it, and only 20 of them arrived. one colonel, a covetous man, could not pull off such a trick in complete secrecy.
      1. 0
        April 27 2023 04: 50
        a document that, for example, 29 engines from the factory came to the Southern Military District, as it should be along the line, and only 20 of them arrived. But again, the shortage must be written off, allegedly they were issued for repair to the troops

        I’ll assume that the engines were issued for repair in the part of the Southern Military District (the exercises were just going on, then on February 24 - everything should be on the move, and the problems were piled up for years), but they couldn’t immediately close the past year on papers - the limit for screwed up engines was exceeded.
        They don't pat on the head for faulty equipment.
      2. +3
        April 28 2023 08: 38
        Yes, one hundred percent. There were no engines, and they promised to write off the regiment in a couple of years, and he was seduced (probably they also promised to be promoted).
        There was already a "kidnapping" of one and a half million equipment, which did not exist in life, but there was a banal theft of dough.
    9. +4
      April 26 2023 22: 02
      Quote: FIR FIR
      And where do they go then?

      That is, if they were at all. Most likely the money was cut, and the engines were not made. It’s easier to set someone up and drag out the investigation, then hush it up altogether. And the main thing during the investigation is not to go out on yourself.
    10. -6
      April 27 2023 00: 21
      The head of the armored service of the district was arrested on charges of stealing engines for T-90 tanks

      I sent the Armed Forces no less ... They say in the Izyum affairs they took part of the T90s from the 1st tank, so apparently the engine was worn out in six months, and there are few Lieperds ...
      laughing
      A joke of course!
    11. -4
      April 27 2023 01: 18
      where are you going, where are you going? ... - I sold it for scrap, and with the money I bought ice cream for the children, XRAY for myself, and flowers for the woman.
    12. -2
      April 27 2023 13: 24
      That's it, where does he put them, is this the main question? Initiation of a criminal case to the public, which will then be put on the brakes!
      1. -2
        April 28 2023 14: 36
        It seems to me that they were simply put somewhere on urgently needed equipment and not written off ...
    13. 0
      April 28 2023 18: 58
      The engines left for the Donbass, and this is a no brainer.
  2. +5
    April 26 2023 19: 31
    I wonder who he sold these engines to? Bandera or something, or Indians? And only a year later this theft was revealed.
    1. +7
      April 26 2023 19: 39
      On March 28, 2023, 44-year-old Colonel Alexander Denisov was detained

      1. What, it turns out, he was detained a year after the crime was committed?
      2. Colonel at the age of 44! Is he wild-growing or paid, what are his merits, it is still necessary to check how he was awarded this high rank. Or there everything is according to the principle "Forge money without leaving the cash register".
      And here is some more news from Rostov-papa:

      And here's some more recent news:

      In short, pickled raspberries.
      1. +5
        April 26 2023 19: 56
        Quote: frruc
        Colonel at 44 years of age! Is he wild-growing or paid, what are his merits, it is still necessary to check how he was awarded this high rank. Or there everything is according to the principle "Forge money without leaving the cash register".

        If this ohvitser plays with tank engines like Houdini, then it's surprising that he hasn't been a general yet...
        1. +7
          April 26 2023 20: 34
          Quote: isv000
          If this ohvitser plays with tank engines like Houdini, then it's surprising that he hasn't been a general yet...

          I did not have time to grow up to the general, greed ruined. And such was the career ... Anything can happen now, here Alexander Lapin commanded the Russian Central Military District. While in this position, he awarded the Zhukov medal to his own son, who led the unsuccessful attack on Sumy and Chernigov. The son of a lieutenant colonel, commanding a tank regiment, killed half the tanks and received an award from his dad.
          1. +6
            April 26 2023 20: 37
            Quote: carpenter
            The son of a lieutenant colonel, commanding a tank regiment, killed half the tanks and received an award from his dad.

            So after all, the beloved son, and you need to move to the generals, and he still has a family.
          2. -2
            April 26 2023 23: 53
            The son of a lieutenant colonel, commanding a tank regiment, killed half the tanks and received an award from his dad.
            Do we get rewards for causing damage to the country? Serdyukov also received For Merit! Gorbachev received an international award and a Russian pension.
  3. +5
    April 26 2023 19: 31
    If the source is Kommersant, then it would be necessary to check them for "lice". I will personally wait.
  4. +7
    April 26 2023 19: 33
    7 engines of 3 million pieces ... I DO NOT BELIEVE request ......
  5. +17
    April 26 2023 19: 33
    According to the laws of the SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION, they will be transferred to another position, a general's position. There was something similar when 1.5 million sets of uniforms disappeared somewhere.
    1. -3
      April 26 2023 23: 56
      Aha! Remember Serdyukov with his merits for the collapse of the army! Panimash Hero of Russia too! I even got a medal! The second year of his merits burp!
  6. +11
    April 26 2023 19: 35
    Sometimes I think that we clearly lack Comrade Beria))))
    1. 0
      April 26 2023 19: 48
      Quote: Yapet100
      that we clearly lack Comrade Beria))))

      Either Beria, or Stalin, or some other hero of the past ...
      Do you think one person can change everything? Unfortunately, he can't, but a genius.
    2. +5
      April 26 2023 19: 54
      Quote: Yapet100
      Sometimes I think that we clearly lack Comrade Beria))))

      You are not the only one who thinks so. Stalin, Beria, Abakumov, Sudoplatov.
    3. +2
      April 26 2023 19: 56
      It's easier for you, and I think about it very often.))
    4. 0
      April 26 2023 21: 34
      Quote: Yapet100
      Sometimes I think that we clearly lack Comrade Beria))))

      If Beria had seen all this mess, he would have shot himself.
    5. +1
      April 27 2023 00: 00
      Sometimes I think that we clearly lack Comrade Beria))))
      Visit similar thoughts! But unfortunately we have only talented managers! Eat them by the leg! Really embarrassing for the State! How low have we sunk with this damned capitalism!
  7. -3
    April 26 2023 19: 36
    Quote: FIR FIR
    stole engines for T-90 tanks

    And where do they go then?
    Wonderful are your deeds, blessed capitalism.

    Maybe to the Chinese or Indians, or maybe sold for scrap
    1. +3
      April 26 2023 19: 49
      Quote: Rom8681
      maybe sold for scrap

      Working tank engines for scrap? sad
  8. +4
    April 26 2023 19: 37
    If the engines have gone, for example, to India, then let there be theft and fraud. And if the non-brothers go to the outskirts, then you can already talk about treason!
    1. -2
      April 27 2023 00: 05
      And if the non-brothers go to the outskirts, then you can already talk about treason!
      What non-brothers? We are talking here that there is total corruption on the outskirts! They are all for sale! But for some reason the news is about corruption on our part! That environment of people's leaders is corrupt. That gunners are corrupt. Those who sympathize with the outskirts. About the oligarchs in general a song!
  9. +5
    April 26 2023 19: 38
    Wow. And how many people like him are in the army?
    Is it because of such, among other things, our failures?
    For this in wartime, execution.
    They’re not afraid of anything.
    However, the final word must be said by the court.
  10. +8
    April 26 2023 19: 39
    This is one of the components of permissiveness and impunity. Roof from the top and do whatever you want. These are people who have taken an oath, people on whose decisions and competence the lives of others, both civilians and military, depend. sabotage, and possibly treason. Enough with the military to apply the articles of fraud, abuse of office, etc.
    1. 0
      April 26 2023 20: 52
      Quote: Mikhail Maslov
      Here is one of the components of permissiveness and impunity. Roof from the top and do what you want.

      And where exactly is permissiveness and where is impunity?
      Head of the Armored Service of the District arrested on charges of embezzlement engines for T-90 tanks
      The Southern District Military Court upheld the decision of the Rostov-on-Don Garrison Military Court on arrest for two months on charges of fraud on an especially large scale Colonel Alexander Denisov, head of the armored service of the technical support department of the Southern Military District.
  11. -9
    April 26 2023 19: 40
    In fact, who might need such engines? Unless American or Ukrainian intelligence.
    1. +4
      April 26 2023 19: 47
      What kind of reconnaissance is there, don’t be ridiculous. This motor is a modernized V-2 from the T-34 and IS-2 times. In fact, this is the last version of the B-2, from which they squeezed the maximum that the design of this engine was capable of.
    2. +2
      April 26 2023 20: 14
      You find an intelligent man from Transbaikalia, sell him an engine, he hooks up a generator to this engine, and now he has a diesel generator that provides electricity to a couple of underground sawmills. Already at home, this man finds some major of the fuel depot and buys diesel fuel from him .... Everything is in business, everyone is fine ....... This is the simplest option ....
  12. +2
    April 26 2023 19: 48
    Duc fraud or theft! Authors, these are two different crimes according to the Criminal Code! As a journalist, such things should be understood. And in the note everything is dumped in one heap! love
    1. -2
      April 26 2023 20: 13
      I stole and dug somewhere until a buyer is found. But seriously, you need to look.
    2. 0
      April 26 2023 20: 16
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      Duc fraud or theft! Authors, these are two different crimes according to the Criminal Code! As a journalist, such things should be understood. And in the note everything is dumped in one heap! love

      Citizen of law, embezzlement is:
      - theft (Article 158);
      Fraud (Article 159);
      appropriation (Article 160);
      embezzlement (Article 160);
      robbery (Article 161);
      Robbery (Article 162).
      It’s just that the forms are different - well, it’s written that way in the primer.
  13. +4
    April 26 2023 20: 02
    I don’t make excuses, but such are the flesh of the flesh of the current capital system. It is quite possible a "switchman". I do not exclude as an option that there were no engines at all in real life.
  14. 0
    April 26 2023 20: 03
    Should be appreciated. 25 years minimum.
    1. -3
      April 26 2023 21: 32
      Yes, I didn’t make it to a billion, I need to punish it more severely, if I made it, then I should give it conditionally ...
  15. 0
    April 26 2023 20: 04
    am or Khokhlov ... or am through the Ukrainians ... it’s not for nothing that the Ukrainians immediately after the capture of our T-90 gave it to the amers ...
  16. +1
    April 26 2023 20: 10
    ...charged with fraud committed by an organized group of people. Now Denisov's case is being investigated by an investigator of the first military investigation department of the Military Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of Russia for the Southern Military District...

    Investigator of the Military Investigation of the Military Investigation of the Military District...
    Investigator of all military investigators? The position looks painfully majestic in writing.

    So stole or scammed?
    In Chelyabinsk, were these engines definitely produced? It is already known that 7 engines were produced (and the RFP for their production was accrued, and the materials used were written off), shipped from the plant, delivered to the customer's representative, received by the representative confirmed? And then the senior officer responsible for these engines with at least a position and reputation took and sold these engines somewhere.
    Alice in Wonderland.
  17. +3
    April 26 2023 20: 19
    Here, most likely, everything is simpler.
    According to the documents, they delivered the engines from the supplier, the Ministry of Defense paid, although the engines were not actually delivered. And how the supplier settled with the colonel, the investigation will sort it out.
    Something like that.
  18. 0
    April 26 2023 20: 20
    Lord ... The words "officer's honor" are not even pronounced
    1. -2
      April 26 2023 20: 38
      Quote: The son of a pilot
      Lord ... The words "officer's honor" are not even pronounced

      Son, this honor was in our time.
  19. -2
    April 26 2023 20: 21
    Nevertheless, in the context of Russia's special military operation, any corruption crimes and embezzlement in the country's armed forces should be suppressed especially harshly, with appropriate consequences for the perpetrators if their guilt is proven.

    However, you need to find the benefit received by the colonel !!!
    To start...
  20. -2
    April 26 2023 20: 24
    And let's wait: otherwise it could be disinformation.
  21. -2
    April 26 2023 20: 44
    Khokhlam and sold. There are no other options
  22. -1
    April 26 2023 20: 58
    Maybe - these engines were carried out on "papers", but in reality they did not exist? Then just "money" (payment to the plant) - they divided it among themselves and that's it.
  23. +4
    April 26 2023 21: 20
    Hi all. Colonel, it's definitely not your fault.
    I had a commander and a good comrade, God rest his soul. He was a lieutenant colonel, then a colonel. Soon he was transferred from Yarik to Moscow to a general's position. He served a little, put things in order. And then he was offered by the higher authorities to sign documents on the write-off of fuel (which was stolen). This is around 2013-2014. That is, you will sign the documents, we will not leave you, you will be on the same team with us. As a decent man, he refused. They offered to resign.
    He quit, but did not know that he was issued a wolf ticket. Could no longer get a job. The heart failed.
  24. -1
    April 26 2023 21: 29
    And what a man he was! A real colonel negative
  25. -1
    April 26 2023 22: 12
    Most likely, the new engines poked around, and their people extended the life of the old ones, using them as a replacement. And then the zanykannye went to the troops, and the money for them to businessmen in uniform ..
  26. 0
    April 26 2023 22: 14
    Info about nothing. If, according to the results of the inventory, the fact does not converge with the base, then it is more likely that there is a mess in the accounting. They do not know how to write normal databases for warehouse accounting. Could steal many years ago and draw the necessary data for the time being. Think about how our inventory goes. Such components are stored in places where you can’t go in and out of the street. What did he drag him alone? There is a specific place of storage on video recordings, everything can be seen - "accomplices", and as long as there is no such material, believing in the guilt of this person is like throwing a coin.
  27. 0
    April 26 2023 22: 25
    Without knowing the case, I would not undertake to argue.
    My assumption looks like this: there was a contract with the plant for the supply of engines, but this did not happen on time for various production reasons and sloppiness.
    It would seem in a businesslike way: we didn’t deliver, we don’t pay (an advance payment is only in the amount allowed by law), when we deliver, the calculation is complete.
    Is that how we buy houses?
    But our Ministry of Finance is different: the money that they spent the whole year trying to allocate on time when they crossed the New Year: bye-bye! They are not mastered and are returned to the budget, like so ... In fact, they simply disappear. The Ministry of Finance reports that "he financed", and the auditors tear the skin from those who "did not master" on the ground, shining with huge numbers of "abuses".
    Therefore, according to the state, the customer and the production worker decide to violate: let me pay you the money for the supposedly completed order in advance (otherwise Siluanov will steal this money, which is not good for anyone). And you'll get there quickly!
    But then the auditors-controllers-the prosecutor's office: "yeah - the money is paid, there are no engines, so what? Stole it!"
    All well done, everyone is in business, and Siluyan, and Nabiulina, and prosecutors-inspectors, only there is no sense for the army.
    Sisyphean labor on a large scale with noise and drums. All well done, all bonuses and promotions!
    And the tradition of throwing away old things for the New Year is like the Chinese.
    But here is the tradition to throw away unspent money for the New Year only with our economic bloc of the government, and even then, they don’t do this with their personal money, only with government funds.
    That's who the saboteurs are naturally!
  28. -1
    April 26 2023 22: 48
    I'm almost sure that this is a multi-pass, from the factory to this colonel.
    The engines existed only in documents, upon the arrival of these documents to the final goal, they should be written off as combat (or non-combat) losses.
    At some stage, someone talkative got caught, and it didn’t grow together
    Only, for some reason, it seems that we will not know anything about the future ...
  29. -1
    April 26 2023 22: 57
    This is not fraud, but high treason, thieves dude, at 44, not everyone rises to the rank of colonel.
  30. 0
    April 26 2023 23: 38
    If tank engines are being stolen, then it is not surprising that more than a million sets of equipment for soldiers have disappeared.
    1. -1
      April 27 2023 02: 49
      With equipment, it’s understandable, every ensign strives to let it out of his supply room to the left. But with the engines for the t-90 and t-72 BZ, it’s really some kind of crap. Who needs them, except for our tank units? I dismiss the idiotic theories about sdchu for metal. The colonel may be a thief, but by definition he is not an idiot.
  31. +4
    April 27 2023 00: 40
    100-500 comments at a pace one more ridiculous than the other. If no one knows, then why the heck write any nonsense?
    "The plant didn't release the engines and gave a kickback to the ABTU colonel for accepting them," and the whole military representation at the plant looked at all this? Also in the share? And from what money? Sofa investigators drive such a blizzard ...
  32. -1
    April 27 2023 01: 14
    Quote from: newtc7
    Rather, there is one thing - the less government structures and public procurement, the less corruption.

    A controversial statement, look at those parts of the world where everything meets your conditions and what? In different countries everything is different, so where more or less does not depend on the predominance of government agencies or private traders, like the two poles, North Korea and South Korea, where is corruption more? in my opinion, everything depends on the degree of development of the general culture of the people, its upbringing from an early age in accordance with moral standards and not worship of the golden calf.
  33. -2
    April 27 2023 06: 15
    For our North Caucasian military district this is a normal phenomenon, the mentality here is trading. In this we differ from the Central Military District and others. And such an event is already the norm, in my memory this has already been enough ... By the way, some people ran away. As a rule, very often this, as I noticed, begins with a change of power. It can be assumed that the engine went to another district, it is enough to make an audit, for example, in the Arbat VO. So....
  34. +1
    April 27 2023 07: 43
    The only thing that can be said here is that he is definitely not the only one! All these years, such theft was the norm, and throughout the entire structure of the Moscow Region. The question of where one and a half million sets of uniforms have gone is still unanswered and no one has yet been imprisoned for this ...
  35. -2
    April 27 2023 07: 56
    Particularly large theft and arrest for 2 months. Miracles of modern Themis in Russia.
  36. -1
    April 27 2023 07: 58
    Directly presented on Avito an advertisement for the sale of tanks for the T-90 ... Hmm ... Until they begin to severely punish - such a bad thing will happen ...
  37. -1
    April 27 2023 08: 51
    In general, it does not matter - how he stole it, to whom he sold it. The main thing is to get caught. Now hang up and report widely in the press as a warning to the next thieves. That would be the real solution. Now there will be many years of red tape and games of justice, and in the end he will receive a suspended or symbolic sentence, despite the enormous harm caused to the state and people. Steal further.
  38. -1
    April 27 2023 09: 05
    If this is true, then the execution before the formation, as during the Second World War. The rest of the "merchants in uniform" will quiet down.
  39. +2
    April 27 2023 11: 49
    Quote from Old Metal
    and the whole military representation at the plant looked at all this?

    "a whole military representation at the factory"usually comes down to two or three people who are ordinary people and who can be quite interested in something.
    Just open any search engine, type in any keywords there (theft at defense enterprises, for example) - dozens of pages of fascinating reading are provided.
    Also, what country do you live in?
    The essence of the Serdyukov case - do you remember?
  40. -2
    April 27 2023 15: 49
    The colonel, according to investigators, stole seven V-92S2 engines for T-90 tanks.
    ...was charged with fraud


    Accused of fraud is usually when there is no real evidence of theft. And you have to blame.
    Fraud is the easiest article for investigators to work with.

    And we will not find out the real background of this case, since the case will certainly be classified.
  41. 0
    April 27 2023 20: 51
    As they say in the "family" is not without its black sheep
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  43. 0
    April 28 2023 08: 34
    Are transfers of Central Bank funds abroad without counter deliveries of material assets not theft?
  44. 0
    April 28 2023 08: 51
    He stole not according to his rank. Colonel, but he stole like an army general. Not according to the charter. Not even according to concepts
  45. 0
    April 28 2023 13: 40
    For this "scheme", it is imperative to remove the engines from all records of storage in warehouses, i.e., the engines must, according to the documents, be issued to someone (for replacement on armored vehicles). This is the most stupid and primitive scheme ... Thieves are ingenious, this is not a delivery from an order, a shortage in logistics with a forgery. And it happens that they really gave out in a hurry ... and they forgot to make the wiring winked recourse
  46. 0
    April 28 2023 17: 31
    Here it is, the market economy in all its glory, but where did he want to resell them later, if not to Ukraine, not to our enemies ???
  47. 0
    April 28 2023 17: 43
    Colonel, according to investigators, stole seven V-92S2 engines for T-90 tanks

    In January 1990, 12 T-72 tanks from UVZ were stolen. And they tried to take them abroad through Novorossiysk. 7 engines - a kindergarten compared to 12 tanks.
    Read "The ANT Cooperative Case".
  48. -1
    April 28 2023 21: 22
    Quote: Sergey250455
    To Kazakhstan. We do not have customs clearance

    tttt

    We don't even have borders...

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