At an exhibition in Japan showed a possible prototype of a combat 4-meter robot

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On November 28, at an exhibition in Japan, a prototype of a combat 4-meter Robot Kuratas with more than thirty hydraulic joints and a weight of 4,4 tons.

This miracle of technology moves on wheels, which end four legs, and "feeds" on diesel. The maximum speed of the robot is ten kilometers per hour.

Inside Kuratas - the driver's seat, which controls the mechanism using the touchscreen and two joysticks, responsible for the movements of the hands of the unit. Used as recognition of facial expressions, which is activated and "weapon". The robot is armed with two flare guns and two rotor machine guns.

The inventors of Kogoro Kurata and Vataru Yoshidzaki created this robot. Having opened the company Suidobashi Heavy Industry, they decided to realize their dream and made their first product - Kuratas.

The robot has already gone on sale at a price of 1,25 million dollars. According to Japanese media, Suidobashi Heavy Industry has already received about 3000 orders from around the world.

Robot Kuratas - a soldier of the future, a product of the Japanese company Suidobashi Heavy Industry

The robot, which Suidobashi has been working on since 2010, is controlled by the system, which the developers called Master-Slave. In the cabin there is a smaller model of the robot, the movement of the limbs of which makes the corresponding limbs of the real machine move.

An alternative management tool is a mobile smartphone app.

The robot moves on a four-wheeled platform, which is equipped with a conventional diesel internal combustion engine.

The robot control system includes an automatic target locking function, which means that Kuratas can hold a target at sight even if it moves.

Among the weapons of the robot is a plastic-propelled Gatling machine gun and a "grenade launcher", from which plastic water bottles are flying out.
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  1. sv-sakh
    +23
    30 November 2012 09: 51
    If the limb is damaged, the robot lies down and dies meeee ...
    Have seen enough of their animes ...
    Perverts
    1. Jin
      +17
      30 November 2012 10: 07
      Hello everyone! While this all of course looks silly, but five years ago, conversations about combat drones also caused a smile, and now?
      1. +5
        30 November 2012 10: 28
        I read the article and immediately remembered the novel "Fiasco" by the Polish science fiction writer Stanislav Lem. There, he also used the Master-Slave control system in giant walkers on Titan. This is how fantasy is gradually being embodied in ftake it!
        1. 0
          30 November 2012 11: 29
          Quote: nokki
          That's how fiction gradually comes to life!


          fiction, in this case, will remain fiction ... the Japs blinded only a walking target and nothing more ... questions immediately arise about the stability of the entire device, its booking, and so on. and so on ... forgot to mention that the pilot of this "miracle" is a kamikaze, chained up so as not to run away ...
          1. Slayer
            +3
            30 November 2012 11: 37
            Quote: Krilion
            fiction, in this case, will remain fiction ... the Japs blinded only a walking target and nothing more ... questions immediately arise about the stability of the entire device, its booking, and so on. and so on ... forgot to mention that the pilot of this "miracle" is a kamikaze, chained up so as not to run away ...

            these are only the first steps, remember the first tanks and compare them with the current ones, or even the first wooden and modern ships)))) For me, the groundwork is doing, in the future it may turn into a good exoskeleton, which in urban conditions will be more effective than a tank, since maneuverability is much higher at such a machine, and if you still dream up, let’s say it will also fly, then generally an irreplaceable machine)))
            1. +32
              30 November 2012 12: 47
              Imagine the effect of these phrases on surrounding people 20 years ago:

              - Ivan is not at home, he is in the army. You call him.
              - Yes, you count on the phone.
              - Rename the folder.
              - Let's give him a home theater.
              - Yes, there are only two hundred gigs.
              - I passed the Second World War for the Germans.
              - I shake the elf.
              - Stick me a charge.
              “I'll be in the woods, but you call me.”
              - I accidentally erased War and Peace.
              - My arm is already frozen to talk with you.
              - Damn, I can not enter the mail.
              - I sent you a letter ten minutes ago, did you receive it?
              - Throw me a photo on the soap.
              - I forgot the phone at home.
              - I can’t talk to you, you’re lost all the time.
              - Put me the pipe money.
              “I'll buy my brains tomorrow.”
              1. Jin
                +3
                30 November 2012 13: 03
                Quote: alexneg
                Imagine the effect of these phrases on surrounding people 20 years ago:


                laughing Krasava !!! I could have put plus a million !!! Here, apparently, chop the chip! It's all about progress, not a specific "product"!
                1. 0
                  30 November 2012 19: 08
                  In the film "The Matrix", a much better control scheme is shown rather well than the Master-Slave, where a man "puts" touch manipulators on his hands and the arms of the robot repeat the movements of the operator's hands. Moreover, surgical robots have been working according to this scheme for a long time. Why else invent something else?
              2. 0
                30 November 2012 15: 37
                and if you show 20-30 years ago sensory phone?) iPad, computer, games on it wassat
                1. 0
                  30 November 2012 15: 44
                  and what were the real problems of the technology. Here we need a new fundamental technological breakthrough.
                2. 0
                  30 November 2012 22: 24
                  Just 20-30 years ago, touch displays already existed in help terminals, but mobile phones were considered fantastic.
          2. -1
            30 November 2012 17: 59
            Quote: Krilion
            fiction, in this case, will remain fiction ... the Japs blinded just a walking target and nothing more ... immediately there are questions about the stability of the whole device,

            And you remember how the first planes looked ... Yes
      2. +5
        30 November 2012 11: 22
        Quote: Jin
        but still five years ago, talk of combat drones also caused a smile

        Soon, the terminators will cease to cause smiles. Everything that once was a fantasy turned into reality, with time, of course hi
        1. Jin
          0
          30 November 2012 11: 52
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Soon, the terminators will cease to cause smiles. Everything that once was a fantasy turned into reality, with time, of course


          Greetings, Alexander! What I actually wrote about hi
      3. +6
        30 November 2012 11: 25
        You want to surprise you, but the development of UAVs in the USSR was started back in the 50's.
        1. rolik
          0
          30 November 2012 11: 44
          The submarine in the Union was called "Flight" and was jet-powered. In terms of speed, modern drones are not close to it.
        2. Jin
          +3
          30 November 2012 11: 56
          Quote: leon-iv
          You want to surprise you, but the development of UAVs in the USSR was started back in the 50's.


          It's not what happened, but what is! We have a lot of things in the development, but in the projects it was !!!! And much of this has been successfully implemented in the West, unfortunately (((Enough to live in the past, you need the present and it is advisable to look into the future!
        3. +1
          30 November 2012 12: 18
          Quote: leon-iv
          You want to surprise you, but the development of UAVs in the USSR was started back in the 50's.
          That's it. then KB Lavochkina proposed the first drone in the world. And what we are now buying from Israel, we could do in the circle of aircraft models.
          1. Windbreak
            +2
            30 November 2012 12: 52
            Quote: Mechanic
            then KB Lavochkina proposed the first drone in the world
            Are you talking about La-17? Americans used to have AQM-34
          2. +4
            30 November 2012 13: 02
            . And what we are now buying from Israel, we could do in the circle of aircraft models.
            But they gave us a magical pendell and you can see how many developments, including those from private traders, which I think are very good.
            1. 0
              30 November 2012 13: 13
              Quote: leon-iv
              But they gave us a magical pendell and you can see how many developments, including those from private traders, which I think are very good.
              I agree. Only ours is seen too proud bird, after a pendel fly something slowly request
              1. +1
                30 November 2012 13: 53
                Well, do not tell. Small and medium UAVs quickly rolled out.
                And with big ones and drummers there are troubles with a filling there. Tk for our gliders to pile and the engine is not such a problem. But to ensure stable contact with him throughout the flight is another question. + A plug with cameras.
                but if you look, the choice is quite large
                http://bp-la.ru/category/rossijskie-bpla/
                1. 0
                  30 November 2012 19: 23
                  Quote: leon-iv
                  And with big ones and drummers there are troubles with a filling there. Tk for our gliders to pile and the engine is not such a problem. But to ensure stable contact with him throughout the flight is another question. + A plug with cameras.
                  but if you look, the choice is quite large
                  Sorry, Nov I live in the city where they produce Israeli UAVs at the aircraft repair plant. I do not believe that our developments will raise and will do shock, jet in the near future. Although there are achievements from ancient years.
                  1. 0
                    30 November 2012 21: 35
                    So already accept and buy. The same Denis Mokrushin is if you dig around. And much more than Israeli. It's just that a lot of attention is paid to them as the same age.
      4. ughhh
        0
        30 November 2012 12: 16
        Hello everyone! While this all of course looks silly, but five years ago, conversations about combat drones also caused a smile, and now?

        Combat drones have not caused a smile since the time of the air circle 30 years ago, but the absurd multi-ton heap of "joints" that must be moved on a smaller copy in the cockpit - it smiles, yes.
        For example, I would do a land combat robot based on the T-90.
        1. Jin
          +1
          30 November 2012 12: 34
          Quote: ughhh

          The combat drones did not cause a smile since the time of the air mug 30 years ago


          Yes? And only after these 30 years, it was only loaded onto an aircraft carrier, and then, while only testing! Yesterday I read an article here))) I'm talking about such "combat drones", those that are comparable in size to combat aircraft, and not about those that have been used for a long time, hanging bombs on them, etc. Those. about a full-fledged (albeit not yet perfect) combat unmanned aircraft!
      5. 0
        30 November 2012 12: 19
        Combat drones, both flying and wheeled, have been in development for over a century. And if anyone smiles, it is from uninitiated philistines.
        1. Jin
          0
          30 November 2012 13: 00
          Quote: Morok
          Combat drones, both flying and wheeled, have been in development for over a century. And if anyone smiles, it is from uninitiated philistines.


          I'm tired of explaining! Why do you cling to words? For those who are from the tank, I explain briefly and in other words: "Yesterday is fantastic, tomorrow is reality!"
          1. 0
            30 November 2012 16: 18
            Only a ram in the submarines (as in 20 thousand leagues under the sea) is not. You can not copy literally - this is primitivism.
        2. +1
          30 November 2012 16: 16
          Only they do not flap their wings and do not walk on their feet. The form of a combat robot can be the form of a tank, armored personnel carrier, but not homo sapiensa. The man is universal in application, and first of all thanks to the anatomical moments - arms, legs, head upward with the brain. In military applications, it is very inefficient, it is difficult to defend such a form.
          This is nonsense, not a combat robot. It would be better to increase the production of rubber dolls for the US Army - maybe there would be less nervous breakdowns.
          1. Jin
            0
            30 November 2012 20: 56
            Quote: homosum20
            This is nonsense, not a battle robot


            Lord! What a fighting he is in FIG! The prototype is simple, but here half of the members of the forum write as if the Japanese are already adopting this "design"! Guys, really! About the idea of ​​the same speech! For the future and probably not just the nearest one ... although who knows, who knows ...
          2. Yan005
            +2
            1 December 2012 00: 09
            Quote: homosum20
            This is nonsense, not a combat robot.

            This is not a robot, this is an exoskeleton.
      6. btsypulin
        0
        30 November 2012 14: 22
        Like submarines with airplanes and space rockets at one time!
      7. 0
        30 November 2012 16: 01
        Quote: Jin
        talk about combat drones also caused a smile

        A drone is a drone, it’s different. And if it falls over, it will be knocked down by a shell or a mine will come, and the cost of this toy is probably like that of a fighter.
        1. Jin
          0
          30 November 2012 16: 12
          Quote: baltika-18
          Drone drone, this is different ..


          Is it different? The meaning is one controlled robot! All advanced developments cost a lot of money! Of course they are! What's the point? In that, spending now, in the future, ensure superiority over the enemy and save the lives of soldiers or pilots! And you think how many advantages! That everything is just a minus mosque. In addition, serial devices cost is reduced. Plus, you count how much it costs to prepare and train a high-quality pilot !!! What about life? It is generally priceless ...

          W S I do not praise this "product", it’s a no brainer that a bucket of bolts, I’m talking about an idea and what seems incredible today, and tomorrow becomes commonplace! Imagine yourself in 1985 with a tablet on a bus or with a touchscreen mobile phone! How would they look at you? As a Martian, at least! It's been 27 years, not so much!
          1. postman
            0
            1 December 2012 01: 25
            Quote: Jin
            Is it different? The meaning is one controlled robot!

            Robot - an automatic device designed for industrial and other operations, commonly performed by man.

            This article does not describe ROBOT, but something similar to a power steering, a lever, a motor plow, and so on.
      8. -2
        1 December 2012 02: 21
        UAVs, a smile could cause in the 30s ... when they were born ... actually ...

        And this robot, as a prototype of a "weapon", evokes not a smile, but rather a grin. In terms of combat, the concept is ZERO ... The tactics of use are solid questions ... tracked or wheeled weapon platforms, small and nimble with remote control, yes - they cause interest and respect ... and this ... this ... this is some kind of comic ... or the creators of the car, well, really love playing "Mech Warrior" ...
    2. +11
      30 November 2012 10: 08
      We saw enough of fantastic films ... the robot falls down in an elementary way - a couple of neutron grenades, a plasma mine and finish off with a sapper shovel ...
      1. +2
        30 November 2012 10: 49
        As a lady would say, "Edward! Fu! How rude and unaesthetic! Do you catch hi-tech here, and you, with a sapper shovel. Remember the shaft of the times of 1812."
        1. rolik
          +2
          30 November 2012 11: 46
          A bottle with an old, good Molotov cocktail thrown either in the back or from the upper floors of the building. Sentence - kebab baked in foil.
          1. Jin
            +6
            30 November 2012 12: 04
            Quote: rolik
            A bottle with an old, good Molotov cocktail thrown either in the back or from the upper floors of the building. Sentence - kebab baked in foil.


            Of course! You can generally shmalnul catapult-concussion to the pilot to ensure and knock down this miracle! And then, run into the crowd and chop down all the hoses on the hydraulics with bronze swords! He’ll die inside from starvation! The beauty!!! I directly see in your words the strategy of waging the wars of the future! We’ll run around with bottles for a long time, aren’t we tired yet?
            1. rolik
              0
              1 December 2012 12: 19
              Suggest an option with what to run. Although I will allow myself to guess, RPG, Vampire, Bumblebee, Faust cartridge, bazooka, Baby, Cornet, Laser blaster, Relsoton, Vacuum bomb, 10-kiloton charge of nuclear weapons tied to a kamikaze plane, T95, Rook with full suspension, Skunk under wheels , pour sand into the hinges, Laser sword (blue only), power cocoon, Slingshot firing with a tungsten nail (aim in the eye - do not spoil the skin), a blanket on top of the loopholes and then kick with diving boots, Death Star, Rays of death .... .... Here are many ways, some fabulous, against this fabulous war.
              Quote: Jin
              We’ll run around with bottles for a long time, aren’t we tired yet?
      2. Skiff
        0
        30 November 2012 11: 15
        Among the weapons of the robot is a plastic-propelled Gatling machine gun and a "grenade launcher", from which plastic water bottles are flying out.

        This is a very, no, well, very dangerous development, it is necessary to demand the urgent convening of the UN Security Council, to introduce a no-fly zone and an economic embargo over Japan.

        Well, for me, I realized that this is just a toy for the rich Muu ... oh, eccentrics
      3. 0
        30 November 2012 11: 28
        ShturmKGB
        We saw enough of fantastic films ... the robot falls down in an elementary way - a couple of neutron grenades, a plasma mine and finish off with a sapper shovel ...
        even if so, they will send non-living Yapes to death. And ours with a sapper shovel will be full and alive, and live and live for him, give birth to children, and feed them, and increase the wealth of his homeland with his labor, and instead of all this, with a sapper shovel per piece of programmed iron. No, you want, but my dissenting! Give the same piece of iron.
        As I understand it, they found a way to turn the Kuril Islands back, and that for this there wouldn’t be much bo-bo laughing
        Shoigu, and Rogozin, you need to puzzle FPI, if created and grandmother is already receiving, so let him at least knowingly eat his bread.
    3. bosxxl
      +1
      30 November 2012 10: 10
      ALL THIS IS COMPLETE HU.E.T.A.
      1. homeland
        +2
        30 November 2012 10: 34
        Quote: bosxxl
        bosxxl Today, 10:10 ↑ new 0 
        ALL THIS IS COMPLETE HU.E.T.A.


        Everything is ahead, it is too early to make such critical statements.

        Some time ago, robots could not move, now they are walking around, dancing, and you see that after 5-10 they will run at a good speed and shoot.
        1. Skiff
          +1
          30 November 2012 11: 21
          Robots cross the road, 1967, recent publication.

          Yes, all this is nonsense, a lot of time still has to pass for it to happen, a stone bowl has come out laughing
    4. +7
      30 November 2012 10: 29
      Quote: sv-sakh
      If the limb is damaged, the robot lies down and dies meeee ...
      A person, with damage to his limbs, also dies painfully. Such robots can help in the protection of checkpoints, checkpoints, be used as support-cover for the assault group. In vain you are ironic, their time will come, the traditional infantry will be replaced afterwards.
      1. 0
        30 November 2012 11: 26
        It will undoubtedly be crowded after it receives the mobility and autonomy of the infantryman at an affordable price
    5. 0
      30 November 2012 10: 32
      Good target for RPGs))
      1. Jin
        0
        30 November 2012 10: 49
        Quote: Funker1981
        Good target for RPGs))


        Yes, good, but such things, in the future, of course, will certainly be equipped with all sorts of infra-heat visors, and to mock the RPG calculation, being outside the zone of its shot, 5 seconds from what is attached to the robot (I mean the future combat model, of course), but this is all, just steps in her direction ... all the more so since the "herding" infantry can be assigned, by analogy, as now the tanks are patronized (unless, of course, the brains of the fathers-commanders of the units are in place), in urban battles for example.
        1. 0
          30 November 2012 11: 06
          Quote: Jin
          Yes, good, but such things, in the future, of course, will certainly be equipped with all sorts of infra-heat visors, and to mock the RPG calculation, being outside the zone of its shot, 5 seconds from what is attached to the robot (I mean the future combat model, of course), but this is all, just steps in her direction ... all the more so since the "herding" infantry can be assigned, by analogy, as now the tanks are patronized (unless, of course, the brains of the fathers-commanders of the units are in place), in urban battles for example.


          Jin well, of course it will be so - IF not take into account what the future RPG model will be capable of wink
          1. Jin
            0
            30 November 2012 11: 34
            Quote: 11 black
            Jin, well, of course it will be so - IF you do not take into account what the future RPG model will be capable of wink


            All this is understandable, the competition of armor and shell ... I mean that advanced developments are being carried out with a reserve for the future! And we have? That's what a shame!
    6. 0
      30 November 2012 10: 53
      sv-sakh,


      Tell me ... rather, this is a symbiosis of the exoskeleton and BMP, an interesting direction!
    7. +1
      30 November 2012 11: 04
      A good robot until it hit the Russian roads.
    8. YARY
      +1
      30 November 2012 11: 33
      "Long road, starts with the first step!"
      Why shouldn't our MoE announce a grant competition on this topic? Say $ 1,5 million?
      The topic is extremely interesting and developed in the USSR more than garne.
      1. 0
        30 November 2012 13: 28
        Quote: Ardent
        Why shouldn't our MoE announce a grant competition on this topic? Let's say $ 1,5 million
        -Not, impossible-the wooden cyborg-Buratinator and tzm Malvinator from Serdyukov and his passions will win.
    9. UPStoyan
      +1
      30 November 2012 11: 36
      This news was already mentioned a few months ago, only weapons were against the demonstrators. The main conclusion of that discussion is grenade launcher dream.
    10. +1
      30 November 2012 13: 11
      Well, let's say so, for starters, it will work when they can make a suit out of the 4 x-meter robot, then this will be a breakthrough, but for now it’s only touched, a test of the pen, so to speak. Interestingly, do we have developments in this area, or will we wait, and then we will have them complete and modify? I'd rather stick to the 2 option, cheaper hi
    11. Denzel13
      +1
      30 November 2012 16: 42
      The dream of a poorly trained grenade launcher is his real name.
    12. Tjumenec72
      +2
      30 November 2012 20: 54
      This is how combat robots should look, and not this stuffed animal ...



      I DO NOT PROMOTE STARBAND TECHNIQUE, JUST THROUGH THROUGH THINK OF THINGS
      Even such benefits will be more
  2. SSR
    +2
    30 November 2012 09: 54
    Then the sentry "robocops" will appear .. further more .. and then corporations of ordinary people will be driven underground ....
    Direct implementation of Hollywood scripts like: terminator / matrix / robocop)))
    But.
  3. Dimani
    +6
    30 November 2012 09: 55
    Well, they made it, but there is no RPG on it soldier
    1. akjn4
      +3
      30 November 2012 09: 57
      Most likely, he and the heavy caliber
      1. sv-sakh
        +2
        30 November 2012 10: 00
        He doesn’t get worse from armor-piercing, if he gets into hydraulics, which by the way is not protected, if you look at the photo ...
        and with the loss of hydraulics of the lower limb, its combat use drops to minus infinity :)
      2. Centaurus
        0
        30 November 2012 10: 18
        Yes, he has enough "Molotov Cocktail". And even in general with a brick in the face and in a dump. Damn a fighting robot ... with a speed of as much as 10 km per hour and shoots plastic bottles ... Fear of the citadel.
    2. mar.tira
      0
      30 November 2012 09: 59
      Quote: Dimani
      there is no RPG on him

      And he has an RPG shoots with water! According to the author, he shoots with water charges! fool
    3. +6
      30 November 2012 10: 00
      there would be a robot, but there is RPG laughing
    4. 0
      30 November 2012 11: 59
      Or no hacker laughing
  4. MilaPhone
    +6
    30 November 2012 09: 55
    Wow - a diesel military robot and already in the series, has a price (1,25 million)
    and customers (3000). And here we draw horseradish on the fence!
    1. +6
      30 November 2012 10: 08
      How would we easily assemble such a toy for students of any engineering university, but what for? As a combat unit, it is useless, its mess will be sorted out for spare parts, but what can any fighter with the SVD be there and drag it away by color laughing . it is not suitable for rough terrain, and is not protected for fighting in urban conditions.
      1. Jin
        0
        30 November 2012 11: 10
        Quote: RETX
        How would we have such a toy can be easily assembled by students of any engineering university


        Are you sure about that? Personally, I’m not very, especially with the current quality of education ... modestly keep silent about financial aspects
        1. +2
          30 November 2012 11: 55
          I’m sure our robots win many competitions, why they don’t cover it, I don’t know request Apparently, the country should think that we are all stupid shit and then confirm this in social polls (yes, yes, the Russians think "we live like in Nigeria") No one wants to finance, I personally plan to invest in robotics next year, probably stupid, but I'll try.
          1. Jin
            +1
            30 November 2012 12: 13
            Retx,

            Quote: RETX
            Nobody just wants to finance, I personally plan to invest in robotics next year, probably stupid, but I'll try.


            And plus you for that and God help you! drinks
          2. 0
            30 November 2012 14: 49
            For example, the market for robotic watchmen is completely unreached.
            Those. An ordinary trolley with a camera walks i.e. reports on the route and inspects the territory when it detects a change in the landscape or moving objects.
            There are a huge number of places (warehouses, parks, private large estates, potato fields ...) where such a robot would be useful.
            And any student team (plus some image processing programs) can do it.
            1. 0
              30 November 2012 15: 00
              while at this stage cameras and motion sensors are cheaper.
              1. 0
                30 November 2012 15: 21
                Aha - a corn field with an area of ​​100 km ^ 2 is entangled with cameras and sensors (and maybe also with barbed wire under tension?).
                Or a holiday village - put a surveillance camera on each toilet.
                Or in a public recreation park - hang on each tree by a sensor (because cameras cannot see anything through the trees).
                1. 0
                  30 November 2012 15: 47
                  and 1 robot protects a lot there))))))
                  1. 0
                    30 November 2012 16: 26
                    Guards are usually hired to such fields (and other places) (my brother-in-law was engaged in such an extra job, he told me).
                    The watchmen do about the same thing - they go around the territory and scare away potential thieves.
                    But naturally, she doesn’t have time everywhere - you won’t protect much on foot.
                    Car security is more successful - but this is the same gasoline and the salary is higher ...

                    A robot - it is relatively cheap, can move very quickly and the main task - to drive away potential intruders - a regular microphone will help.
                    At the same time, he will fix everything and document it, and the police can already be engaged in the search for thieves.
                    I think such a robot is better than any person to handle.

                    Again, all sorts of maniacs love to stagger around in the parks, and there is no one to patrol there - expensive and the guards (if any) love to dump.
                    But the robot doesn’t drop off - it’s going to go round everything, it will look at all the suspicious ones and not only take pictures - it will scare away all potential maniacs.
  5. akjn4
    +5
    30 November 2012 09: 56
    The higher the cabinet, the louder it falls.
    1. Guun
      +3
      30 November 2012 10: 03
      The first tanks were also unlucky. In the future, these vehicles will probably replace tanks, the war will show. The Japanese in this area overtook everyone.
      1. akjn4
        0
        30 November 2012 10: 17
        You are right, time will tell what kind of fruit it is and what it is eaten with ... And the Japanese most likely made a large and expensive toy.
        1. Blat
          +1
          30 November 2012 11: 32
          Hollywood technicians overtook all technicians in this matter. Such miracles of technology were subject to them 20 years ago. When not everything could be blinded using special effects
      2. Jin
        +2
        30 November 2012 10: 19
        Quote: Guun
        The Japanese in this area overtook everyone.


        Here's what I agree with, so that the Japanese are anyone, but not fools ...
  6. Igor
    +2
    30 November 2012 09: 59
    Among the weapons of the robot is a plastic-propelled Gatling machine gun and a "grenade launcher", from which plastic water bottles are flying out.
    .......................................................................

    And then there is a hacksaw for metal for "Seppuku" lol
  7. sashka
    +3
    30 November 2012 10: 04
    The machine also turned out from a simple bow .. I wonder how far they go ??
    1. rolik
      0
      30 November 2012 11: 51
      The machine gun came out of Chinese firecrackers and holiday rockets. The bow turned out to be a crossbow, also a great thing.
  8. Santa bear
    +2
    30 November 2012 10: 05
    According to the instructions for use with this robot, there are certain subtleties .. not everyone can be a pilot of this steel monster. . only 16-year-old Japanese schoolgirls can control it and without fail in mini-skirts so that the panties can be seen laughing
  9. Splin
    +1
    30 November 2012 10: 08
    The ancestors of the samurai do not want to defend their homeland! Their grandfathers are turning over in their graves!
  10. +4
    30 November 2012 10: 09
    Mdaa)
    in 50 years there will be a terminator!

    similar ?
  11. 0
    30 November 2012 10: 09
    Rzhu can not, well, the Japanese, they give. For as long as I don’t remember, since the days of the magazines Technology of Youth, Science and Life and Young Technician, the Japanese had hatched plans to knock down a robot. And no one there, and most that neither is human-like - so far everything is by (although the money has gone horribly). Apparently they are lazy once they all dream of putting all the work on the "fragile" shoulders of robots. D and cartoons like "Evangelion and Apple Seed" need to watch less. Otherwise, psychiatrists are not far away :-)
    1. rolik
      0
      30 November 2012 11: 52
      They rather watched "Jinko Fighting Robots" fellow
  12. davoks
    0
    30 November 2012 10: 11
    what's the point in the legs if you still move on wheels?
  13. 0
    30 November 2012 10: 11
    The robot is armed with two rocket launchers and two rotary machine guns.

    Among the weapons of the robot is a machine gun firing with plastic charges
    Gatling and grenade launcher


    The authors of the article with weapons would be determined.
  14. +5
    30 November 2012 10: 12
    Tam-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta

    In a distant faraway galaxy ... star wars raged laughing

    And they did not bring Godzil to replace our four-legged friends? laughing


    But seriously, of course it’s very cool .... That is how the heavy infantry can be born .... And if all this miracle is finalized, then ......

    So I recall a joke about international scientific and shadow exhibitions
    1960 year
    USA we made a car that travels at a speed of 150 km .. All Bravo
    Japan we made a car that travels at a speed of 200 km .. All bravo
    USSR, we learned to drill teeth ... All bravo

    1980 year
    USA we made a car that can fly .. All Bravo
    Japan we made a car that can go into space .. All bravo
    USSR, we learned to drill teeth ... All fu .... Through w-o-p-y .... all Bravo

    2010 year
    USA we made a car that can reach any planet in the solar system .. All Bravo
    Japan we made a car that can reach another galaxy..All bravo
    Russia, we learned to drill teeth ... All fu ... Through f ... oh ... all fu ... AUTOGEN .... ALL BRAVO

    A real joke from the time of the USSR (I remember it from childhood).

    And it would be very funny if it weren’t so sad .... THERE ARE MAKING BATTLE ROBOTS, AND WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE SAME POSITION TO LOCATE ....
    SCALE DO YOU FEEL?

    AND THIS SmellS THERE WHAT (IT IS POSSIBLE) by 2020 when we will all be fussing about the fact that in the Army of Armata, the T-50 is in the sky, and the soldiers are all armed with AK 12, it turns out that the whole world is fighting with the help of combat robots, unmanned aircraft, ships, tanks, uses rail guns and lasers .....
    And we are still treating our teeth through woo-woo.

    And of course I’m exaggerating a little, but the trend is alarming.
    1. +4
      30 November 2012 10: 43
      volkan, for your collection is another Soviet joke about Japanese technology.

      A Japanese saw with programmed control was brought to the Siberian timber industry enterprise. We decided to try.
      They put a small log.
      “Whack,” said the saw, and sawed a log in a second.
      They put a log of medium size.
      “Whack,” said the saw, and sawed a log in a second.
      They laid oooh a very thick log.
      “Whack,” said the saw, and sawed a log in a second.
      Put a crowbar.
      -Jin! Gobbing! - said the saw and broke.
      - Bullshit, not technology! - said the men and went to drink alcohol.
      1. 0
        30 November 2012 11: 20
        Quote: nokki
        Bullshit, not technology! - said the men and went to drink alcohol.


        It happens too laughing
    2. Jin
      +1
      30 November 2012 11: 23
      Quote: volkan
      And of course I’m exaggerating a little, but the trend is alarming.


      Yeah, there’s a robot here, in the USA a combat drone! Everything is straightforward according to the joke, but we have a uniform from Yudashka and one new bronik for 100 people, helmets of 43 years of age without exception (or what are they worn there?), With rare exceptions, yes 6 pieces of Shell 1C, yes 1,5 helicopters, yes we drive everything in kirsa, we don’t change our shoes to berets! Well, their mother, ah! Well, another couple of stools and we’ll definitely play out (((Really, it’s not laughable somehow (
  15. quaygon
    +1
    30 November 2012 10: 13
    resembles the robots from the movie "Iron Man 2". The Japanese would have tied up with comics, it will not lead to good wassat
  16. 0
    30 November 2012 10: 15
    Scha will invest loot in this business and it will move! Japs 130 million, the war with China is inevitable and they are really afraid of it because they think logically, They either create something when there is a need, a need ...
  17. +1
    30 November 2012 10: 15
    Yeah ... how much cheaper is one shot from an RPG? winked
  18. +4
    30 November 2012 10: 16
    Israel - laser and railgun tanks, the USA - antiproton cannons, Germany - laser cannons, the Japanese - combat robots. Che is done, horror, I'm afraid, I write out of fear. And in our country, like RPG hitting tanks - it hits it, like AK shot in any conditions - it shoots like Poplar was - the tree of "friendship" is, the question is, what for the goat accordion?
  19. +1
    30 November 2012 10: 22
    Yapes seem to have a complex about sizes laughing
    And so - of course, well done, you see, soon something really worthwhile will be created ...
  20. +2
    30 November 2012 10: 22
    Hello everyone !!!! How much humor, how much irony, but you still have to admit the good fellows, that it is vulnerable and that it is ineffective, even if hanging real weapons is clear to the children .... the thing is different, for example, identifying weaknesses in security, mobility, thrust-weight ratio and, of course, ease of handling. The machine is a prototype, so it is likely that the improvement work will continue and if they prove the effectiveness of its use (even if not in the army, not in the war, but let's say patrol, guarding objects ...), then you are unlikely to be so ironic ... .. Time will tell.
  21. Centaurus
    +2
    30 November 2012 10: 25
    It is ridiculous of course, but in general, to some extent, this is a historical event.
    Of course, now it is at best "cannon fodder", a distracting circumstance, at worst a toy presented for the birthday of the oligarch's son.

    But in the future, robots, and I think that if they develop, the pace is no slower than tanks and planes.
  22. 0
    30 November 2012 10: 30
    I think ours has such achievements that they simply don’t advertise, if not, then there simply wasn’t such an assignment, if there had been an assignment we would have been able to work it out long time ago ... I read somewhere, maybe even in VO, which in Soviet times our scientific experiments carried out over people, they wanted to do something like cyborgs and it seems like they achieved certain successes until the program was curtailed
  23. 0
    30 November 2012 10: 43
    Whatever the child would entertain ...
  24. USNik
    0
    30 November 2012 10: 50
    This fresh news is at least half a year old. In general, the Japanese fellows, let them take this OBRM into service ...
  25. +2
    30 November 2012 11: 02
    People, look, well this is even in concept - stupidity.
    Previously there was a post and it clearly said - what for goat button accordion ...
    Think about what is in front of us ... Even with normal armor, an increase in speed and patency, with weapons installed.
    We carefully look, look, look, now think, think, and, lo and behold - yes this is the same tank, only put on the priest. Once again - what for goat button accordion ...
    I dare to offer a simpler, more reliable and cheaper solution - we take a tank, install manipulators (actually that robot is different in principle), install replaceable modules with weapons (for use by manipulators), or even provide for the possibility of installing various weapons with conveyor power in the manipulators through the joints - and we have a much more pragmatic solution at the output - than not the same robot, but also really fighting. The basis is already there, we only modify the limbs if desired.
    And there it’s already calm, not in the mode of mating rabbits, not for the sake of window dressing, but for the sake of a real result - we are working out systems of new methods of movement, and the type of legs for this type of machine is far from the best version of the platform for movement.

    The result - cartoons when they are watched by adult uncles, is not the best pastime for the brain and mental health, especially cartoons that are popular in Japan)))
  26. 0
    30 November 2012 11: 02
    if there is a driver inside, then why should a facial recognition system, etc. - He doesn't even peek out? and with the driver it’s not a robot, but an exoskeleton
  27. coast
    0
    30 November 2012 11: 05
    even though such robots have five degrees of freedom, but 4 meters is .........., two people one distracts the other in the back from the RPG
  28. KAZAKHSTAN
    0
    30 November 2012 11: 12
    BMPT TERMINATOR this is what I understand is a robot capable of operating in an unmanned version by the way! Well, agree why put it nanogi !? 10km per hour? :) For non-military purposes, yes ... a good loader capable of lifting tons of cargo no more ...
  29. cvx
    cvx
    +1
    30 November 2012 11: 13
    Even assuming the protection of his thirty hydraulic joints, what is his advantage over, for example, an armored car with similar weapons?
    1. +1
      30 November 2012 11: 23
      Quote: cvx
      Even assuming the protection of his thirty hydraulic joints, what is his advantage over, for example, an armored car with similar weapons?
      You're right. With only one amendment. Most likely there are pneumohydraulic cylinders. The advantages of such a technology are that when it enters one of the limbs, a glass of oil or nitroglycol will go away and the system will remain operational in the general circuit. One of the pneumatic channels will simply close. Well, and so, the more movable joints, the greater the likelihood that they will leave standing on the battlefield. So this is only a fairy tale from the category of prototypes. And yet imagine that this miracle will come out against the tank. The difference in profile (who is easier to get into), the number of vulnerable joints, mobility (I don’t think that he can run at a speed of 40 km \ hour), the degree of armament (you can’t put a gun on the 125 mm gun). So it’s easier to make an unmanned tank than such a prodigy.
      1. +1
        30 November 2012 11: 30
        Kind!
        This is what interested me. How diesel will work if we assume it will crawl on the ground.
        By the way, and for the sake of interest you can make such a bungle?
        1. snek
          +1
          30 November 2012 11: 37
          People, this is a toy for the very rich, which has nothing to do with real military equipment.
          1. +2
            30 November 2012 12: 44
            Quote: snek
            People, this is a toy for the very rich, which has nothing to do with real military equipment.


            Colleague
            At one time they were also skeptical of tanks, submarines and aircraft .... and even more so I will say that with steam engines ....
            Napoleon once said that he regretted very much that he had kicked out the inventor who suggested he build ships on a steam engine ...
            So, no matter how we regret it.
            And then I look here at all hehany yes hahanki ..... we will get rid of however.
        2. 0
          30 November 2012 11: 56
          Greetings dear.
          Quote: leon-iv
          By the way, and for the sake of interest you can make such a bungle?
          Young did for fun. Honda 160 gasoline engine (5,5 kW), a screw pneumatic supercharger is hung on it (pneumatic hydraulics do not need high pressures to work, there, from the 6, the pneumatic bar on the hydraulic reducer raises the bar to 250). Provides normal operation to 16 manipulators. So this is not a problem.
          1. +1
            30 November 2012 13: 57
            By the way, how do you assess the prospects of such manipulators as loaders. For example, if you make them arachnoid-like.
            1. 0
              30 November 2012 19: 27
              Quote: leon-iv
              For example, if you make them arachnoid-like.
              Yes, as loaders, they and two-legged are not bad, but like a spider it’s just a fairy tale. But on the battlefield, such a spider will stick out like a great target. Until they are reduced to human growth, they are useless as military equipment.
  30. snek
    0
    30 November 2012 11: 16
    ancient button accordion. What the news does is not at all clear
  31. IlyaKuv
    0
    30 November 2012 11: 33
    In the near future it will only be a walking props, but as they say there is no limit to perfection, maybe that will come out, but not now.
  32. +2
    30 November 2012 12: 00
    good target for RPGs.
  33. +1
    30 November 2012 12: 02
    but in vain, by the way, you laugh;) it is worth inventing a compact and powerful source of energy, and first we will get heavy infantry, and then such robots
    1. 0
      30 November 2012 12: 22
      Quote: Bad
      but in vain, by the way, you laugh;) it is worth inventing a compact and powerful source of energy, and first we will get heavy infantry, and then such robots
      For such a machine, you just need an 5 kW engine on average. Just what is his future perspective? Heavy infantry is a fairy tale. You hide such a dope figs on the battlefield. It is enough to blow a grenade under his feet and splinters will damage a bunch of units. You are all modestly smokers and admire the view of the sky, until you or your enemies or friends get out of there.
      1. Jin
        +1
        30 November 2012 12: 41
        Quote: Mechanic
        Heavy infantry is a fairy tale


        Namesake, welcome! Your opinion is really interesting! Which infantry is the battlefield of the future? IMHO, they will still be dressed in exoskeletons, and they will allow the armor to be strengthened, weapons, etc., perhaps this will give an impetus to the development of such "dreadnoughts" of support ... or something like that in any case
        1. +1
          30 November 2012 12: 50
          Quote: Jin
          sho will equally be dressed in exoskeletons, and they will allow to strengthen armor, weapons, etc.
          Greetings namesake. I completely agree with this. The exoskeleton, while maintaining the dimensions of the fighter and a relatively small limitation in mobility, has surging ones. Only it will not be tomorrow, the problem is in the sources of energy. But with regard to drones, it seems to me that it is still more promising to develop a caterpillar theme, while preserving the dimensions of human growth, and such 4 meter towers can work no more than base loaders. But as a combat in the 4 meter, I gave examples above. But this is only my personal opinion.
          1. Jin
            +1
            30 November 2012 13: 12
            Quote: Mechanic
            But as a combat at 4 meters, I gave examples above.


            I completely agree about the size, I wrote you a post before that, but I didn’t finish something ... But the rest is a very promising concept. Heavy infantry, not such a fairy tale, it’s just not very clear yet what exactly it will develop in the end ,,,
      2. +1
        30 November 2012 12: 50
        Quote: Mechanic
        You hide such a dope figs on the battlefield. It is enough to blow a grenade under his feet and splinters will damage a bunch of units

        Colleague
        Why hide her?
        And in order to throw a grenade, you have to go up to 20 meters .... a greater distance (even if you roll it) will interfere with the accuracy of the throw ...... And Hto told you that he will let you go so close.

        I wrote above but I repeat .... At first they laughed at the tanks, but they very quickly turned into Horror ....
        So it’s not so simple .... When a couple of thousands of such crap (dumped and improved) fall out on you, I think it won’t seem enough ....
        And I give my head for cutting off that this project will be developed in the very near future.
        1. 0
          30 November 2012 13: 03
          Quote: volkan
          Why hide her?
          And in order to throw a grenade, you have to go up to 20 meters .... a greater distance (even if you roll it) will interfere with the accuracy of the throw ...... And Hto told you that he will let you go so close.
          Greetings to a colleague. That is, in your opinion, the war will be held as before, the Kulikovo battle took place? Were you two crowds on such machines, with the support of tanks and aircraft in a clean field and went to wet each other? Ask how such crap will behave in a marshland, or in a forest. Also, to dump it, you can set up an ambush in the undergrowth, but he certainly won’t climb in there, the slightest stone or unevenness and all of it lies on the shell. Maybe I was a little behind something promising, but I did not hear anything about systems that can adapt the center of gravity of machines other than a gyroscope. And if it’s also a pancake to put its weight in 1 / 30 for this miracle, then it will be amusing to erase with such a rotating yulda just below the center of gravity. I repeat once again that the future is with exoskeletons and small drones and on tracks (I hope you do not need to prove their advantage over the legs of the robot).
          1. +1
            30 November 2012 13: 46
            Mechanic,

            Of course, everything that you say has a place to be, but tactics for using a new type of weapon are always found .... albeit by trial and error ..... By the way, returning to our sheep (they are tanks) the impossibility of using them in a swampy and woodland is also present, but this did not stop the tanks from occupying their NICE niche among military vehicles .....
            How will they fight in the future? The question is complex .... here you can only assume, and any assumption can be easily refuted .... Personally, I am inclined to assume that they will fight in the same way as now ... that is, the battlefield .... Air superiority , Artillery (both conventional and reactive), a breakthrough of defense with tank formations .... A MISSILE DOMINATION will not be carried out by improving the air defense and missile defense system ...
            Although someone can say that some vile virus is being sprayed and there is no need to fight .... and it will also be right .... Fortune-telling on coffee grounds is essentially something ...

            I’m not sure right now that there will be no Great War ... And if it does, then I can definitely say that in the future we will fight with sticks and stones wink
            1. +1
              30 November 2012 13: 52
              Quote: volkan
              Now I’m not sure that there will be no Great War ... And if it does, then I can definitely say that in the future we will fight with sticks and stones
              That's right. drinks
              1. 0
                30 November 2012 14: 09
                As RKhBZk I will surprise you most likely Russia will roll back in 1930 -20 on a number of positions. But others will be much worse. The most important thing is to evacuate the population in time and organize it.
                1. 0
                  30 November 2012 17: 31
                  leon-iv,

                  Well, my colleague As an RKhBZk, I think you know better than me how things are going in the troops with the adjustment of the means of the RKhBZ per person ...
                  We probably have more than half of the servicemen have gas masks and OZK never in size. I am generally silent about the civilian population. About the fact that all this crap from radiation doesn’t save, I won’t even be able to talk about it at all. Well, the fact that even a fitted OZK does not guarantee 100% protection against BOV I think you know better than me too.
                  And the funniest thing is that there will be no one to WARN US ABOUT ANY attack in this case ....

                  In general, do not let GOD happen
                  1. 0
                    30 November 2012 17: 37
                    here is what.
                    Nuclear infection is not as scary as it seems.
                    Modern nuclear weapons do not produce long-lived isotopes of cobalt strontium and iodine. After nuclear weapons, the background quickly enough becomes normal (close to natural).
                    by BOV I don’t think that they will be used because it is a 2-edged sword.
                    By the way, Nuclear winter is not as bright as it is painted.
          2. Jin
            0
            30 November 2012 13: 50
            Mechanic,

            How is Eugene, by the way, or not by the way,))) with the base for Almaty? Something I lost a thread on the topic.
            1. 0
              30 November 2012 19: 35
              Quote: Jin
              base for Almaty? Something I lost a thread on the topic.
              Nothing new. It’s unlikely that they will deliver coalition, there are problems with the combat module for MBT, and in general the base is not impressive. In short, it would be better to produce T95 in large quantities than stupidly combine everything and send it into a deep black hole. The brakes are full. Although the management of UVZ GDP reports that everything is fine. He now took all the development of the Middle Urals (where I live) under his personal responsibility. Let's see what will happen to the ZiK, Turbomotor, UZTM, and all other plants. OMZ (the one that produced optical sights for our bombers) now sits purely on civilian products, half of the territories are leased.
          3. +1
            30 November 2012 14: 34
            One such army will gather in 100500 fighters, they will throw 5-6 SBU on it and go on with a funny hoot.
  34. Flanker06
    +1
    30 November 2012 12: 32
    Here is rzhaka !!!! 11111 !!
    I will subscribe to kamenty. It is very funny to read how adult uncles with a smart look seriously take the embodiment of the childhood dream of two flashing Japanese people from a military point of view. Straight Colonels Skalozuba Griboedovskie. Whatever the child was amusing, if only we did not henta.
    1. Jin
      0
      30 November 2012 13: 16
      Quote from Flanker06
      Here is rzhaka !!!! 11111 !!



      Quote from Flanker06
      very funny to read like adult uncles with a smart look in all seriousness


      And you "laugh" less, but think more, it is more useful. This is not advice, but a guide to action ... What have we got here another uman drew ???
    2. 0
      30 November 2012 13: 51
      Quote from Flanker06
      It is very funny to read how adult uncles with a smart look seriously take the embodiment of the childhood dream of two flashing Japanese people from a military point of view.


      The Queen with Tsialkovsky COSMOS also had childhood dreams ..... you are our rzhachny ....
      Sites did not confuse?
  35. +2
    30 November 2012 12: 57
    If this news is already old, as it has been voiced more than once, then the Chinese were one of those 3000 buyers of this miracle machine. Moreover, they probably already drew their assembly drawings and are working on improving this prototype. But the funny thing is that a similar Chinese robot will cost not $ 1,25 million, but, say, 200 thousand. At the same time, its price will obviously be lower than the price of the same tank or any type of armored vehicle. The idea with such a robot, in my opinion, is quite interesting and worth studying. Surely ours bought a sample. And if you haven’t bought it yet, then you will definitely buy it after you decide in what place on the military uniform to sew epaulets.
  36. +2
    30 November 2012 13: 06
    already 3000 orders around the world! well, at least, Taburetkin did not buy these "rusty generals". no. I would not go on the attack inside this. if everything above the belt is mounted on a jeep, it's okay, but the same combat module turns out, only cumbersome, though everything is just beginning ...
  37. Politician
    +2
    30 November 2012 13: 14
    In vain, for many, this gizmo causes a smirk, very soon these gizmos will get even faster electronic brains, learn how to jump in different planes and tanks can go on vacation.

    v = aFy5bBG8Fww
    1. 0
      30 November 2012 13: 25
      Quote: Politics
      get even faster electronic brains, learn how to jump in different planes and tanks can go on vacation.
      Jumping and even in different planes? laughing There are limits to the strength of materials. Now imagine for a moment if this dope machine jumps, what kind of depreciation system should it have? How complicated will the design itself be and will there be even more vulnerabilities? I will not give you lectures, we are not at the institute. just advice finish thinking at the level of Japanese cartoons. These are fairy tales. And in different circles to make jumps, read above what I wrote about maintaining balance.
      1. -1
        30 November 2012 15: 21
        when the time comes for such a "dope" to jump there and other materials will be .. as for the depreciation system .. why not miniature jet engines? there is no bazaar fantasy ... but it's still)
        1. -1
          30 November 2012 19: 42
          Quote: koosss
          when the time comes for such a "dope" to jump there and other materials will be .. as for the depreciation system .. why not miniature jet engines? there is no bazaar fantasy ... but it's still)
          Ha time acceleration of the jet engine can make a sharp jump in any plane? (yes it’s just pi --------- sideways) and it will not be jumping, but take off, and overclocking in the best case will be 5-10 seconds (although this should be asked from the flyers), the second moment is landing, which on an inclined plane can jet engines provide a landing? In general, will it be a jump or take-off and landing? You are talking nonsense laughing And what new materials did you come up with for your mechanical engineering over the past 100 years in your dreams? laughing
  38. +1
    30 November 2012 13: 55
    Well done Japanese !!! Koumekat, buryards !!! Excellent 4-meter, creeping, with a limited viewing angle TARGET for the good old RPG-17 !!! lol
    In the USA it !!! In service !!! Let amers boblo drank, and throw rubbish into the landfill !!! Yes
  39. +2
    30 November 2012 14: 07
    Hmmm
    Here I read the branch .... and sad .... There is a frank banter ...
    Brothers AND YOU THOUGHT THOUGHT THOUGHT?
    From the first time, nothing sensible is obtained, but it is thought and experiment that give impetus to achieving the result ... The first submarine could be under water for less than an hour (as far as I remember), but the impetus was given .... And very soon the submarines became a formidable force and still fulfill this role ...
    The first tank was barely moving, deaf and could not overcome elementary obstacles .... but what was the idea ... to hide a man in a mobile fort, and it was developed ... and now we have seen tank battles where more than 1000 tanks participated .. .
    The first planes were so weak and ineffective that they were perceived solely as an attraction, but what was the idea of ​​raising a person into the air, and they realized it, and now the plane is a formidable fighting vehicle and At the same time, a hard worker and a man’s assistant ...

    They laughed at all the inventors at all times, ONLY THAT THOUGHT continued to be realized and grow into tools that were already quite usable .....
    So you can laugh as much as you like, but this is the thought brought to the first sample .... And I think many will like it .....
    Not for us ... we are poor ..... we have different thoughts .... WE do not want to spend money on the FUTURE ...
    We have nothing and we do not need ... ... that later ... we suddenly wake up and start "buying imported samples" and then the whole world will laugh at us ...
    1. Jin
      0
      30 November 2012 14: 20
      Quote: volkan
      we have nothing and we don’t need ... ... that later ... we suddenly wake up and start "buying imported samples" and then the whole world will laugh at us ...


      Plus, what is happening now is the lack of backlog and infusion into the military-industrial complex, in the 90s, the absence of these today, the same body weight in 2020-30 ... It’s even worse, because progress is already jumping, not walking, plus we’ll take into account already accumulated, unsolvable problems (acre of placement of epaulettes on the form! fool ) alpoyoty!
    2. +2
      30 November 2012 14: 23
      Quote: volkan
      Brothers AND YOU THOUGHT THOUGHT THOUGHT?

      Appreciated :)))
      Quote: volkan
      From the first time, nothing is sensible, but it is thought and experiment that give impetus to the achievement of a result ...

      Nah The thing is that there is a certain idea and there is a certain technological level for the implementation of this idea. Leonardo da Vinci could draw a parachute, could draw a tank, but as long as the technological level did not allow to make internal combustion engines, all these thoughts cost almost nothing.
      Science must be developed. Technology needs to be moved. But it is not necessary to spend efforts on superhp which, in principle, at today's technical level, in principle, impossible to implement. it is better to invest these funds in the study of new technologies - such as materials science, minimization of energy sources, etc. etc. which will subsequently provide a technological level for these ... how are they there ... BattleTech, in! well, or for the Heinlein star infantry, if you like :)))
      1. +1
        30 November 2012 17: 16
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        But to spend efforts on super crap, which at today's technology level is impossible to realize in principle - no need


        Namesake
        And who can Guaranteed to confirm that it is impossible? I think no one ....
        And when we are discussing something here, having no idea about technology, without seeing and without touching, but IMMEDIATELY consider this to be bullshit ...
        And we are told that there are already a lot of orders for this bullshit .... well, somehow ..... very boldly on our part.

        and when someone says that this cannot be simply because he DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS, this is also not curly once ....
  40. 0
    30 November 2012 14: 49
    And what do you want from the "learned monkeys". No, I'm not against scientific and technological progress (a normal definition, not some imaginary "INNOVATION"), but such nonsense in a real war in our time and in the near foreseeable future will cost soldiers their lives (robots cannot protect them from death) ... All right, enemy soldiers, they do not feel sorry for them. But ours is another matter. This craft (I can't find another word) is an excellent target on any battlefield. The drone is also a robot; it is a really powerful thing and very dangerous. Well, this little thing is still just an expensive toy. Although she has the ability to disperse the demonstrators (not armed).
    1. Konrad
      +2
      30 November 2012 20: 34
      Quote: dimyan
      What did you want from the "monkey scientists"

      Not "Japs" and not "learned monkeys", but enthusiastic and talented Japanese guys, embodied their dream in metal, built a big toy based on science fiction films. This device has nothing to do with real combat vehicles and is not a prototype. With the same success, one can discuss the "prototype" of a mechanical war elephant - a new generation BMP!
      1. 0
        1 December 2012 21: 08
        Quote: Konrad
        Not "Japs" and not "learned monkeys", but enthusiastic and talented Japanese guys, embodied their dream in metal, built a big toy based on science fiction films. This device has nothing to do with real combat vehicles and is not a prototype. With the same success, one can discuss the "prototype" of a mechanical war elephant - a new generation BMP!


        I just wrote a toy. And monkeys are also talented. only they cannot invent anything. Just imitate. Well, these are still a little to perfect them. Progress.
  41. +1
    30 November 2012 17: 41
    jokes jokes and the Japanese in this regard are ahead of the rest, I think someday it will come true, and in vain you will die that this is a great target for RPGs, you have to be an idiot so you don’t equip such a thing with active protection, in the end the tank is also a target, I think there are such things its place in the war, when Budyonny also offered to beat tanks with sabers on horses, there’s no current in cavalry now
    1. +1
      30 November 2012 19: 22
      Quote: jagdpanzer
      in vain you will realize that this is an excellent target for RPGs, you have to be an idiot so as not to equip such a thing with active protection, after all, the tank is also a target, I think such things will find their place in the war, when Budyonny suggested tanks to be hit with sabers on horses, current now there is no cavalry


      And I do not "burn out", I just state the facts. IT'S just a toy. Very vulnerable, due to many factors: weak mobility, lack of intelligence capable of independently effectively solving combat tasks, how much armor you don’t hang on it, this craft is on the ground and is unlikely to be able to overcome obstacles on its own, well, it can and will be effective against popuas. About the future - don't rush it so much, human intelligence will be the main force for a long time. And about Budyonny, you heard all sorts of lies. He was a very far-sighted person. What was often attributed to him, he never actually spoke. And he was talking about mobile warfare. I do not exclude that in the 30s many of his ideas were heard and rethought by German strategists.
      1. Jin
        0
        30 November 2012 20: 30
        Quote: dimyan
        And I do not "burn out", I just state the facts. IT'S just a toy. Very vulnerable, due to many factors: weak mobility, lack of intelligence capable of independently effectively solving combat missions, how much armor you don’t hang on it, this craft is on the ground and is unlikely to be able to overcome obstacles on its own, well, it can be effective against popuas. About the future - don't rush it so much, human intelligence will be the main force for a long time.


        So, just in case, colleague! This craft is controlled by a person, i.e. human intelligence, who argues that there is no artificial, analogous to the human one yet? This "thing" is not that vulnerable, it is simply not viable in the conditions of modern combat, talk about the application in the future and the thought inherent in this concept! Or do you think that no one here understands that this "combat robot" is not combat at all? What mobility, what solutions to combat missions, what are you talking about in general? Here, by the title of the article, a lot is already clear. It seems as if some are reasoning in the context: "Japan adopts 4-meter combat robot! "This is a discussion of a possible promising direction for the development of robotics, no more!
        1. 0
          30 November 2012 23: 17
          Even so. But still, this is frank r ..... And about the future, I can tell you that in my opinion the concept of such combat robots is unpromising. You still remember about transformers.
          1. Jin
            0
            1 December 2012 13: 00
            [quote = DimYang] Even so. But still, this is frank r ..... And about the future, I can tell you that in my opinion the concept of such combat robots is unpromising. You still remember about transformers. [/ Quote

            You recall the barrel of Diogenes and modern diving equipment! Or the legionnaires of Rome and the modern specialist, as well as materials and technologies inherent to them in different eras! It is not for us to judge what is in the future ... and what is not. Assumption is the mother of all errors ...
            1. 0
              1 December 2012 14: 00
              I don’t think to suppose, I know for sure. I am absolutely sure that such robots can in no way be military vehicles. Although there is one direction - this is anthropomorphic robots. Or as it is now commonly called - androids. They have a certain perspective. Although I will not argue anymore. This is a meaningless exercise.
  42. upasika1918
    0
    30 November 2012 18: 07
    Ammunition plastic. So the functions are police. Or a new word in paintball. Interesting remote control provided?
  43. 0
    30 November 2012 18: 53
    bulky, awkward - but this is only the beginning.
    Quote: upasika1918
    Interesting remote control provided?
    probably yes. The creation of full-fledged BR inhibits the absence of a powerful source of energy and efficient artificial muscles. since research is underway in these areas, we will wait to continue.
    1. 0
      30 November 2012 20: 01
      Read above. If there are facts against I am ready to argue. In the meantime, for the picture "-".
    2. Vldmr
      0
      3 December 2012 23: 38
      The square-cube law against large anthropomorphic machines. Whatever armor materials or energy sources come up with, this is a stillborn option. Let's say that 3-meter humanoid robots might be nothing else, ED-209 from Robocop, imperial small walkers, exoskeletons from Avatar, but robots from the BattleTech universe are complete nonsense. The area of ​​the protected area is very large, the large geometric movement of the moving parts, and accordingly their mass, will simply lead to the absurd required powers for the slightest acceptable speed and mobility. A tank, having an order of magnitude less area protected by armor, can have much thicker armor, without any stability problems when using weapons with high momentum. Walking machines can have their own areas of application, but the scope of their size will be limited to 100-200% of the size of a person, for multi-pod machines it may be slightly more. The mass grows in proportion to the cube of the size, and the area in proportion to the square (pressure on the ground for the feet).
  44. +3
    30 November 2012 19: 13
    I did not find a note but the essence is as follows;
    The U.S. Army command refused to use and purchase SWORDS robots after an incident that occurred during maneuvers. After a failure in the robot program, 17 soldiers were seriously injured and 9 light !!
    I can imagine what consequences this robot can produce !!
    1. 0
      30 November 2012 20: 02
      The duck there and the robot was only 0,5 meters tall and with only one machine gun. good
      1. +2
        30 November 2012 21: 12
        Quote: Mechanic
        The duck there and the robot was only 0,5 meters tall and with only one machine gun.

        This is approximately true;
        After a malfunction in the program of the Japanese robot, two regiments of military personnel turned to the medical unit to repair the "roof"!
        The same option is possible !!!!!!!!!
  45. 0
    30 November 2012 19: 55
    By the way, Russia is one of the leading places in the world for the development and production of prototypes of combat robots. It just does not advertise and is silent. But it really is.
  46. -3
    30 November 2012 20: 02
    why the heck are we talking about robots. Let’s talk about people better. I don’t have the right to speak for everything of the Airborne Forces, but I somehow (9 years of service) have at least a presentation of what the conversation is about. the first jump - and this is I - whose robot was brought to automaticity. 501-502-503-Kupol and --- Videsh- like from the camera - first the slings come out of the camera coming out - the parachute trembles. And then the PTL and then the UT-15 then (forester) _ and 9 of series 3 Well, who knows what software is of 9 Series 2, he will remain silent. Why am I (and for that) - they swallow dust.
    1. 0
      30 November 2012 20: 45
      And why so much text off topic?
      1. Jin
        +1
        30 November 2012 21: 24
        Quote: Mechanic
        And why so much text off topic?


        From an overabundance of feelings, this happens, we want to say one thing and we think that everything is clear to everyone, and in the morning we read and we don’t understand anything ... hi
  47. mazdie
    0
    30 November 2012 21: 00
    What is the dispute, it is also written there that it is a toy with plastic bullets and a grenade launcher firing bottles)))
  48. Cat
    0
    30 November 2012 22: 05
    clearly some online warriors were designing this robot. Hydraulic drives. gattlings, grenade launchers, joysticks-sticks ... But they didn’t think about the main thing.
    After all, this is infantry, albeit heavy, sophisticated, but still infantry. And any infantry, as you know, has the habit of digging in at the slightest nix. And this "infantryman" - how will he dig in? They forgot to foresee a shovel, in pursuit of show-offs. It's good to fight in a computer, there the battlefield is prepared in advance by specially trained excavators. In real life, everything is much more complicated ...

    And the fact that some people say there - they say, the concept, they say, the tanks were also clumsy at first and the aircraft was plywood ... So now it would never occur to anyone to compose a concept tank weighing 300 tons, as well as a 150-motor aircraft with a wingspan of 100500m, on the contrary - they try to make it smaller and inconspicuous. Stealth ideology, say so. And here - such a beautiful target, yesterday’s conscript from a grenade launcher will get offhand.

    Conclusion: this robot is something like a walking loader (like the one on which Ripley cut through in Alien-2), well, or an aggregate for raking rubble after a tsunami or another democratization there. And machine guns hung on him for the sake of howling PR, amuse pride and advertise the brand =)
  49. 0
    30 November 2012 22: 20
    The question is that the Japanese made a "cool" thing for no one knows why. Who will this machine replace on the battlefield, who will it save? My answer is nobody. Tank-robot or the same attack UAV makes sense if you have more tanks than tankers, or planes more than pilots. Other robots are needed - small (no more than a person), light 50-100 kg, cheap, so that they can be produced in millions. So that not a simple infantry van, but such robots, would rise to attack the enemy machine guns. What a nafig system friend or foe, we know that in the trenches opposite there are no friends. Such robots will not replace the infantryman, but complement it. A simple task is to run 500 meters and hit everything that moves, emits heat, makes sounds - this is the level of intelligence of not even a personal computer, this is the level of intelligence of a carculator.
  50. 0
    30 November 2012 23: 52
    Quote: Cat
    And here - such a beautiful target, yesterday’s conscript from a grenade launcher will get offhand.


    tanks without infantry cover are also vulnerable .. The same Apache is also vulnerable, but not every infantryman with an arrow reaches it .. and bellows in the same fantasy have more sensors than Apache :)

    read at least one fan-novel at your leisure, where the mechwarriors are involved, for example, they have 3 types of robots - small - very mobile, medium, and heavy - that takes everything alive at long distances, plus heavy infantry is often found that covers all these three types at close range

    besides, bellows, unlike tanks, are controlled by one person, and by the way, they also weigh less, while carrying more firepower

    while it's fantastic over time, it will become a reality when a compact and powerful power source appears, moreover, this will immediately give an impetus to a change in the type of weapon (plasma, laser, etc.)

    Now we use tanks not because they are so cool, but because there are no technologies to switch to sl. level
  51. not good
    0
    30 November 2012 23: 56
    The operator of a combat robot lost control and tripped over a tank laughing
  52. 0
    1 December 2012 00: 21
    Dear Zlyuchny, tanks will also be created taking into account new technologies. Compared to a tank with a similar striking force, a 'Mech will be heavier, slower, and more vulnerable. You are comparing the performance characteristics and tactics of real equipment with the performance characteristics and tactics invented by a writer over a cup of coffee.
  53. postman
    +1
    1 December 2012 01: 58
    The device described in the article cannot be called a robot.
    It's something like a "hydraulic booster" in a car.
    In general, the approach is not correct.
    “a possible prototype of a 4-meter combat robot” - why does everything depend on Terminator?
    Human soldier, 90kg (let's say)
    Without weapons ammunition against 2 Rottweilers (2x45kg) Rottweiler - weight 45 kg (well, conditionally)

    The Rottweilers will tear him to shreds (equal conditions - no weapons and protection), well, if not Schwartz, of course ("True Lies")

    Cat =6 kg, 90 /6= 15 cats will tear two Rottweilers to shreds (just inspire the attack)

    Wasp (bee) in 1 kg weight: 11 -000 individuals

    90kgx 12000 OS = 1 OS KILLERS, they will devour (kill) in minutes a human fighter and 080 Hrotweilers and 000 cats.
    IMHO: this is the golden mean for a “combat robot”
    Catering: via microwave channel, laser beam, solar energy, chemical element.
    A self-organizing SWARM, endowed with the goal of DESTROYING, disintegrating into components, in the event of external influence, “passing” the blow through itself and reuniting into a swarm, in order to complete the task.
    The destruction of one (100,1000,10) element practically does not affect the combat effectiveness of the swarm.
    Swarm intelligence is the collective behavior of a decentralized self-organizing system. Considered in the theory of artificial intelligence as an optimization method. Discrete model of cellular robots

    Swarm intelligence systems, as a rule, consist of many agents (Multi-Agent System) that locally interact with each other and with the environment.

    The agents themselves are usually quite simple, but all together, interacting locally, create the so-called swarm intelligence.
    An example in nature: a colony of ants, a swarm of bees, a flock of birds, fish…
    1. postman
      +1
      1 December 2012 02: 03
      If it weren’t for Chubais, he would have said nano-swarm, but nano would have had a “flavour” to it.
      And here Plasto is a clumsy metal block, weighing over 200 kg, spending a lot of energy, and unable to go down the stairs.
      "Combat robot" -? THIS is the forklift used by Lieutenant Ripley from the movie Aliens 2.
      Regis-III: necroevolution of “protozoa” - Swarm, crystalline flies.
      With all their significant technical capabilities, earthlings turned out to be powerless against the dead cloud of “flies”. Even “Cyclops” - the most powerful robot of “Invincible”, armed with a system of force fields and a spherical antimatter emitter, turned out to be powerless in the face of a billion cloud of simple “flies”, was defeated in the battle with them, was disabled, being completely uncontrollable, attacked his own former owners - people, and was destroyed by the ship's guns of the Invincible.


      Stanislav Lem, "Invincible"