Military Review

Defense Ministry will be obliged to part with non-core real estate for free

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After a series of scandals involving the sale at low prices to affiliated companies of non-core buildings of the Ministry of Defense, Russian lawmakers came to the idea of ​​adopting a law that would regulate the implementation of such buildings. The fact is that it was precisely due to the sale of non-core buildings at low prices that the budget missed several billion rubles. Today, the main defendants are former employees of the Department of Real Estate of the Ministry of Defense, as well as the heads of Slavyanka, Expert and several other companies that were closely related to the activities of Oboronservis. The employees of these firms were engaged in the fact that they themselves sold real estate owned by the main military department after these objects were recognized as non-core. For too small a price, military institutes historical buildings and entire residential neighborhoods. Often, several apartment buildings at once were sold at a price corresponding to a couple of cottages from the complex cottage villages Dmitrovskoe highway. After that, the houses were sold at market prices, and the “fat” fell into the pockets of those who developed and implemented this scheme.
Now the Federation Council has approved a draft law, according to which the Ministry of Defense will have to transfer non-core real estate in both capitals (Moscow and St. Petersburg) for free. The state registration of the transfer of real estate from the military department to the municipality will be carried out in 10-day period. This will reduce the cost of the state budget, which are associated with the transfer of real estate from one hand to another.
Obviously, representatives of the Upper House of Parliaments decided to take such a step in connection with a series of corruption scandals. The draft law is aimed at the fact that now there should be no misinterpretations about the incorrect assessment of non-core real estate, which the defendants in the case of embezzlement in the main military department pay attention to today. It is difficult to say how much this bill will cut off the oxygen to corrupt officials, but one thing is clear that the transfer of more than 1,5 to thousands of outlets and catering enterprises will not definitely bring income to the municipal defense fund. Namely, such a number of objects in the near future were going to sell the Ministry of Defense.
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  1. mda
    mda 29 November 2012 19: 12
    +3
    As soon as Serdyuk resigned, scandals immediately began. Isn’t it strange?
    1. black_eagle
      black_eagle 29 November 2012 19: 18
      +3
      They stirred up the city ... but the old one, so I went so to speak "smell"))))))))))
      1. mda
        mda 29 November 2012 19: 37
        0
        Quote: black_eagle
        They stirred up the city ... but the old one, so I went so to speak "smell"))))))))))

        When will they throw him away?
    2. Nick
      Nick 29 November 2012 21: 55
      0
      Quote: mda-a
      As soon as Serdyuk resigned, scandals immediately began. Isn’t it strange?

      Well, he didn’t leave, but left, but the fact that the scandals started was not strange. Scandals began when Serdyukov min. defense, this is why he left ....
      1. Churchill
        Churchill 29 November 2012 23: 40
        0
        A great solution: now you can’t finally find it !!! fool
  2. Joker
    Joker 29 November 2012 19: 19
    +1
    I don’t understand something, to be honest, they used to sell it and now they will give it away for free, what’s the benefit? Even with Serdyukovsky fraud, some money went to the treasury. Or they sell buildings to other state. services? I don’t understand.
    1. sniper
      sniper 29 November 2012 19: 53
      +1
      Quote: Joker
      used to sell and now give away for free, what’s the benefit?

      Oleg, it seems to me that this is how they cover their ass ... Get cash and give it "for free" .... and hell who gets to the bottom ... Inventors, damn it ... how they stole it will be ...
    2. Igor
      Igor 29 November 2012 20: 17
      +1
      Quote: Joker
      used to sell and now give away for free, what’s the benefit?


      Well, now, at least, they will be transferred to municipalities, and not LLC "Horns and Hooves".
      1. andrei. 2012
        andrei. 2012 29 November 2012 21: 30
        0
        Until there is a transparent scheme, and control, no matter who will be the new owner
        1. Marine One
          Marine One 29 November 2012 23: 26
          +1
          Quote: andrei.2012
          Until there is a transparent outline,

          Yes, there are problems with the circuit. As well as the evaluation method. The building can be estimated according to the conditional state standard, BTI data, market value and investment value. The difference in each case is incredible. And the field for fraud is appropriate.
          1. Churchill
            Churchill 29 November 2012 23: 42
            +1
            Quote: Marine One
            And the field for fraud is appropriate

            This is not a field, everything has already been divided into gardens! Aliens do not go there! bully
      2. Joker
        Joker 29 November 2012 22: 16
        0
        Well, now, at least, they will be transferred to municipalities, and not LLC "Horns and Hooves".

        Through intermediaries who will transfer to the one who pays the most, and those in turn will resell to someone else. In short, they are already starting to steal openly, if they used to hide at least a bit, now they also give explanations in the media about how they will steal.
    3. old rocket man
      old rocket man 29 November 2012 21: 34
      0
      Quote: Joker

      - 2 +
      I don’t understand something, to be honest, they used to sell it and now they will give it away for free, what’s the benefit?

      The question is posed "not correctly", it is necessary, whose benefit?
      These are the same eggs, only in profile, now you can cash in without fear, the price is not indicated, structures close to the mayors will buy this property for nothing, and then they will resell it, and most importantly, everything is legal now, but the state again laughing
    4. luydmila
      luydmila 30 November 2012 01: 15
      0
      Yes, they will give priests free of charge. Like in Sergiev Posad, all the buildings of the building were workshops of the car fleet. They gave to the Lavra, and for that the generals received awards.
  3. Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 29 November 2012 19: 20
    +1
    Something I don’t understand - if before the Moscow Region didn’t receive part of the money for bribes, selling real estate at low prices, now it will not see them at all? Now the corruption component will be transferred to the municipalities, which will do what the Moscow Region used to do, that is, give kickbacks to their property for cheaply ...
    1. Ghenxnumx
      Ghenxnumx 29 November 2012 19: 46
      +1
      Surely they counted it ten times and grabbed their heads - but municipal officials weren’t fed, oh mess, we should feed them too, a little wasted ..... stop
      There are not enough words ... Why not just turn everything back ... am
  4. homosum20
    homosum20 29 November 2012 19: 44
    +1
    The corruption scheme is brought to its logical conclusion. If in the last case Serdyukov’s friends were accused of cheaply selling the property of the Ministry of Defense, which had already been sold expensively by the company that bought it cheaply (where did the broth come from), now they will give it away for FREE. Naturally, the gain during the resale will be greater. The law has been perfected, because no one else can be accused of fraud and corruption - everything is according to the law.
  5. d.gksueyjd
    d.gksueyjd 29 November 2012 20: 24
    +2
    Those belonging to the state, represented by the Ministry of Defense, were sold to themselves at reduced prices, and then sold to the state, represented by municipalities, at market prices. This scheme is now being canceled. The question is, what will happen to those who are "welded" on this scheme - if they forgive, the price of GDP and its "EP" is worthless and they are all pi ** races, if they bring the matter to their logical conclusion, that is, they will be imprisoned with fines and the return of the stolen goods - - then the GDP began to restore order in the country and the people need to support him! am
    In this situation, the third is simply not given and time will show the ratio of GDP to your country and its population.
  6. killganoff
    killganoff 29 November 2012 20: 40
    +2
    At the expense of the Ministry of Defense, it’s not only being built by the hands of the servants - it was equipped ... And now, on - Dismantle it for FREE, FLIGHT !!! It’s like that for the army it’s so much for the money, but the army is everything for you without a price! How many magnificent bases and centers of active leisure (CAO) and sanatoriums have gone ... and are leaving ... They are no longer for the military, not for us. No, I’m not sorry, it’s just that everything is done unkemptly and without any logical explanation — the purposeful destruction of everything that has been accumulated for centuries with one purpose — the creation and maintenance of an army of a great Power.
    1. Gregazov
      Gregazov 29 November 2012 22: 13
      +3
      Listen, dear man, How much money and in what currency did the MO pay for a piece of land on which non-core objects stand? The second question is how much money did the MO pay for historic buildings in both capitals? The answer is the same. The third question is created by the Moscow Region, to earn money or to defend the homeland ?. They received morality for nothing, give away for nothing and do not dishonor fathers and grandfathers. It is a pity that the decision is half-hearted and applies only to Moscow and St. Petersburg.
  7. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 29 November 2012 20: 42
    0
    "Now the Federation Council has approved a draft law, according to which the Ministry of Defense will have to transfer non-core real estate in both capitals (Moscow and St. Petersburg) free of charge. State registration of the transfer of real estate from the military department to the municipality will be carried out within 10 days. the expenditure of the state budget, which are associated with the transfer of real estate from one hand to another. "

    Why only in Moscow and St. Petersburg? Only there they steal? Or can you steal in other places?
  8. loki565
    loki565 29 November 2012 20: 45
    +1
    Off-topic, but the question on the video who knows the driver is alive? and how many planted these DEB..OV
    1. Joker
      Joker 29 November 2012 22: 04
      0
      The lieutenant was convicted under part 2 of article 293 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation to imprisonment for a term of two years in a penal colony, with deprivation of the right to hold posts related to the performance of organizational and administrative functions in the public service, in local authorities, in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Federation, other troops and military formations of the Russian Federation, for a period of two years. The mechanic is alive, but with his feet tryndets.
      1. andrei. 2012
        andrei. 2012 29 November 2012 22: 14
        0
        My platoon leader ran ahead, showing what and how to do, and these
        they’re laughing. It’s like they’re making a film, rightly this starle (the leader in the frame is senior lieutenant). Moreover, he set the charge, or had a circuit.
        1. Joker
          Joker 30 November 2012 01: 03
          0
          Yes, I noticed that starley, it was too lazy to print hi
  9. Hey
    Hey 29 November 2012 21: 09
    0
    Prior to this, military grabbers were welded, now municipal grabbers will be welded, according to the same corruption schemes. Radish horseradish is not sweeter. So at least almost everything in one office was, and will be scattered across hundreds of offices. Go check them all out. In a word, a madhouse and a bow on the side.
  10. Lissyara
    Lissyara 29 November 2012 21: 22
    +2
    Nothing will be free here.
    Thieves will find a nychka, as well as on a "bezmezmezny" weld (only money will not be tyritsya MO, and housing and communal services. And the extreme - as always, we, the payers).
    Who has watched Allakurti news today? The garrison had an airfield and the most powerful grouping of military forces on the Kola Peninsula (the airfield remained).
    And the Moscow Region wants to drive this to the balance of civilians when the budget of the village is only 16 million rubles. And this is the North, the same fuel oil for imported boiler houses.
    That is why everything is always from extreme to extreme? There is no anger already. angry
    Oh, and Ivanov is now singing another song about corruption on a "zombie box". B..t, it is necessary to work, and not to tell fairy tales!
  11. Grenz
    Grenz 29 November 2012 21: 36
    +4
    Today there was a report on the transfer of housing stock of a military camp (former tank regiment) in Alakurti to municipal authorities. (By the way, this was the last restraining force on the border with Finland. Now Finns can attack while sitting on buses).
    So no one wants to take it. It is ruined, the Defense Ministry does not give money for repairs, there is no money for heating. People freeze and die out.
    Selling only one object in St. Petersburg could have saved these people, and so they Khan.
    Free - only cheese in a mousetrap. Again, the scheme is the most corrupt - you have to pay for the right to get something for free. In cash and without receipts.
    In a couple of years, we will again analyze the scandals according to this scheme.
  12. bubla5
    bubla5 29 November 2012 23: 24
    0
    There really will not be any generals to clean up, because one district is enough
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 29 November 2012 23: 44
      +2
      In Allakurti, the whole point is that you won’t even find a warrant officer (or rather, you’ll find one from the Air Force, but they have their own separate chicken coop there).
      Completely abandoned military camp infrastructure, with DOS, House of Officers, hospital, etc.
      Those. Someone has nowhere to live, but there are 20 five-story buildings (almost all unpopulated). Moreover, the Ministry of Defense "gives" all this free of charge, and the administration of the village does not know what to do with it.
      Akhova situevina. People do not know what the basic civilian population is to feed-melt, and then there’s still a present from the Moscow Region. Moreover, as I understand it, the government of the Murmansk region is not going to subsidize anything there.
      1. mike_z
        mike_z 30 November 2012 13: 01
        +1
        Quote: LiSSyara
        Moreover, as I understand it, the government of the Murmansk region is not going to subsidize anything there.

        And where will it get the money from? They were not included in the budget of the region, as far as I know. allakurti is really left to the mercy of fate. ... or officials.
        1. Lissyara
          Lissyara 30 November 2012 22: 23
          0
          Well, he sticks out there for the pro forma squadron of helicopter pilots, but as he wrote, they have their own collective farm and subsidies. Those. The municipality council transferred the money, respectively, the houses are heated.
          But my favorite places, Allakurti, Kovdor ... One fishing is worth it! wassat
          Straight nostalgia took.
  13. not good
    not good 30 November 2012 00: 10
    0
    With a free transfer, they came up with nonsense; it would be better if they would exchange for housing for military personnel.
  14. Sergyan
    Sergyan 30 November 2012 00: 39
    0
    then others will profit from the sale of this property! Corruption is everywhere!
  15. boris.radevitch
    boris.radevitch 30 November 2012 02: 13
    +1
    While thieves from the Ministry of Defense do not deduce how bugs there will be no life! am
  16. EW
    EW 30 November 2012 04: 13
    +2
    Interestingly, non-core real estate is definitely non-core? And then, as with kindergartens, they first got rid, sold, and now they have to be built.
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 30 November 2012 12: 11
      0
      It's easier to bring it under a non-core one. Then to rip off money from the budget for "the type of demolition and construction" of a new kindergarten, in real life to patch up the old one (at the same time, of course, no one will demolish it), and shove the dough delta into pockets.
  17. Ash
    Ash 30 November 2012 04: 50
    0
    I don’t understand something. I used to sell at low prices, and there were losses. Why then there will be no losses if these buildings will be given away for free? Where is the logic?
  18. koksalek
    koksalek 30 November 2012 07: 25
    0
    "... the budget was missed ..." in fact, a statement of the fact that the real estate has gone dead and nothing will return to the budget, incl. and what has settled in the pockets. How easy it is so billions go into the pockets of officials, well, they chided each other for this and that's it ??? No words mockery
  19. Mavsik
    Mavsik 30 November 2012 09: 00
    0
    "The fact is that it is precisely because of the sale of non-core buildings at low prices that the budget missed several billion rubles."

    The fact is that Comrade Medvedev no questions to Comrade Serdyukov. (can be replaced with another name of a senior official)
  20. mike_z
    mike_z 30 November 2012 12: 59
    +1
    "Now the Federation Council has approved a draft law, according to which the Defense Ministry will have to transfer non-core real estate in both capitals (Moscow and St. Petersburg) free of charge. "
    1. And in other regions?
    2. And where will the real estate that ALREADY REGISTRATED to different relatives go to? Will they be left or handed over to the Motherland?
    3. we sinners, what shall we receive?
    ...
    Yeah ...
  21. Lissyara
    Lissyara 30 November 2012 22: 25
    +1
    Quote: mike_z
    "Now the Federation Council has approved a draft law, according to which the Defense Ministry will have to transfer non-core real estate in both capitals (Moscow and St. Petersburg) free of charge."
    1. And in other regions?
    A week ago, an example of the Far East.
    2. And where will the real estate that ALREADY REGISTRATED to different relatives go to? Will they be left or handed over to the Motherland?
    Yeah, right now, they’ll drop everything and give it to the state. laughing
    3. we sinners, what shall we receive?
    Mikhail, and here is not a hotz swearing, on the topic "What will we get"