The British magazine named the number of fighter jets lost by Ukraine since the beginning of the conflict

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The British magazine named the number of fighter jets lost by Ukraine since the beginning of the conflict

Since the beginning of the special military operation of the RF Armed Forces in the Donbass and other territories, the Ukrainian Air Force has lost 60 fighter aircraft. This is about 40% of the pre-war fleet, notes the British magazine The Economist, analyzing the current state of the Ukrainian military. aviation.

According to the publication, currently Ukraine has only 80 military aircraft. Russia has allocated almost 500 aircraft for participation in a special military operation alone, writes The Economist. In addition, the British magazine notes that most Russian aircraft have a clear superiority over Ukrainian ones in both radar and longer-range ammunition used.



However, the problem for Russian aviation is that since the beginning of the special operation, the RF Armed Forces have not been able to completely suppress all air defense systems of Ukraine. Therefore, the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces have to launch missiles and bombs from a considerable distance in order to avoid being hit by Ukrainian air defense missiles.

At the same time, the British magazine notes, Russian aviation is using the right tactics. Since October 2022, constant strikes on the energy and military infrastructure of Ukraine began with missiles and strike drones. Because of these strikes, the Ukrainian air defense forces used up a huge number of surface-to-air missiles.

Now Ukraine is experiencing an obvious shortage of such ammunition, and because of this, it has to choose - to provide air defense for cities, critical civilian infrastructure, military bases and warehouses with weapons or military formations on the front line. The forces and means of air defense at the disposal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are clearly not enough to simultaneously solve all the listed tasks, and the West has not yet transferred combat aircraft to Ukraine.

Earlier, the official representative of the command of the Ukrainian Air Force, Yuriy Ignat, also admitted that Russia is actively using the tactics of depleting the Ukrainian air defense. Although the Patriot complexes transferred by the West can shoot down many Russian missiles, their number is clearly not enough to provide cover for important installations in the country.
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  1. +20
    April 23 2023 21: 53
    The Turkish edition of Hürseda Haber published information about the losses of Ukraine in the NVO, allegedly based on data from the Israeli MOSSAD. The extent to which these data are objective is unknown. Although military analysts agree that Israeli intelligence data is close to the truth. Previously, various channels in the West called approximately the same loss figures.

    The field data as of January 14, 2023, based on Israeli intelligence analysis, is as follows:

    The strength of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on this date is 734 thousand soldiers (plus 100 thousand reservists) and NATO officers, soldiers and mercenaries. The losses are:

    302 aircraft

    212 helicopters

    2 vehicles

    6 tanks and armored vehicles

    7 360 Howitzer (Artillery systems)

    497 SAM

    157 dead

    234 000 wounded

    17 prisoners

    234 dead - NATO military instructors (US and UK)

    2 dead - NATO soldiers (Germany, Poland, Lithuania, ...)

    5 dead - mercenaries

    Having information about gigantic losses in manpower, President Zelensky is urging Western partners to provide military assistance. However, Ukraine does not receive quick assistance. To form a powerful armored fist. Who can try to change the situation at the front. At the same Bakhmut or Ugledar. Ukraine receives promises: from today and for an unlimited future. Some deliveries are even talked about next year. And you have to wait until next year. Therefore, Zelensky is very nervous.

    “Zelensky openly says that there is practically no equipment. During the fighting, 1500 tanks have already been knocked out. There are no projectiles. Artillery cannot support their own infantry. As a result, Ukraine simply floods the Russian offensive with cannon fodder. That is, he throws infantry with light weapons. against armored vehicles. against artillery. The infantry holds out for a while. Then she is killed. And the rest run away. Losing combat capability. So the army is quickly demoralized. This demoralizes bureaucracy. The disintegration of military and state structures begins. Zelensky understands all this. He broadcasts this to the West. And in return he receives new promises,” political analyst Rostislav Ishchenko comments on the situation.
    1. +2
      April 23 2023 22: 12
      . 157 dead

      234 000 wounded
      . Che is somehow modest, if it's off. recognized as dead, then it must be multiplied by two perhaps. And the wounded there should generally be over a million already, artillery makes a sieve of soldiers, no one can count
      1. +4
        April 24 2023 03: 50
        Actually, these are the data of Ukrainian sympathizers, but they are still closer to the truth. In addition, these are data for January 14, and wait, read another 100 days have passed. About 600 soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine die every day. We multiply the figure by 3 and get the number of wounded. And all this for 100 days. We add the result to what was written, and now the figure is completely different.
        shall we try?
        We get:
        - dead - 157 + 60 = at least 217 thousand people
        - wounded - 234 + 180 ... well, even if 120 = at least 354 thousand (or even all 414 thousand).
        And this is also taking into account the underestimation of the initial figures, which may not take into account the losses hidden by the command itself for the sake of receiving salaries from the dead subordinates (and the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves have been talking about this from the very beginning of the company).
    2. +1
      April 23 2023 22: 39
      As for the losses in equipment, I came across a variety of opinions (in addition to the "most reliable" reports of the "general - said"), but about the losses in manpower, the information is approximately comparable (from 120 to 170 thousand "dead men" of the Armed Forces). And it’s clearly not worth worrying about Pan comedian. Why should he be nervous, in the event of a Ukrainian embarrassment, he will not be lost: enough money has been saved up, he will be provided with a cordon asylum, his life is completely secured, and there the grass will not grow!
      1. +6
        April 24 2023 03: 36
        The comedian will "heroically" die on the front line, from a Russian shell - why do they need him!? moreover, it can tell a lot.
        1. -1
          April 25 2023 16: 57
          And what "such" can he tell that is unknown? Everything is in plain sight, everyone knows everything. And who will ask him? Tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, there will be Poles and Gypsies on the outskirts, and then another NATO will catch up. The wrestlers are not going to return their territory to the Polish border and eliminate the abscess. The boss has said this over and over again.
        2. 0
          April 28 2023 16: 52
          Quote: tolmachiev51
          why do they need it

          Use hereinafter as "presidents in exile".
          Several Polish presidents and governments in exile for many years consistently settled in France and the UK. However, instead of the active struggle against the Nazis, which supporters expected from them, they mainly continued their obsessive policy of not recognizing the new Soviet-Polish borders. And this continued even after the end of World War II until the self-dissolution of all these “rulers” at the end of 1990.
          https://topwar.ru/164004-polskoe-pravitelstvo-v-izgnanii-jemigranty-druzja-okkupantov.html
      2. +6
        April 24 2023 04: 41
        Quote: Frank Muller
        as for losses in manpower, the information is approximately comparable (from 120 to 170 thousand "dead men" of the Armed Forces).

        Exclusively two hundredth of the order of 300 thousand plus prisoners, deserters and missing.
        From 750 thousand wounded during the same time. Of these, at least a third, or even half are no longer soldiers, will not return to duty. Total irretrievable losses (who will not return to service) are about 600 - 650 thousand. And another 250 - 300 thousand who have not yet returned to service after being wounded.
        Here is the arithmetic.
        And she doesn't make me happy.
    3. +8
      April 23 2023 23: 06
      There are still as many missing people in the Armed Forces of Ukraine as there were dead. Because no one considers those buried alive burned to the ground and scattered into molecules
    4. +5
      April 23 2023 23: 47
      I strongly doubt that the actual number of dead is generally known to the very command of the ukrovermacht .. For the field commanders have a lot of incentives not to report it to the top. Yes, and - there is probably no special desire to count .. Where, then, does the MOSSAD know the number?
      1. AAK
        0
        April 24 2023 00: 17
        Well, you, colleague, read an article that said that more than 5000 Ukrainian Jews are fighting in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, here you have quite a sufficient number of Mossad informants, and besides, Zelensky himself can quite merge something there , he is also a Jew, which means he is obliged to help, and to admit it to him or not is the tenth thing ...
        1. -2
          April 24 2023 00: 40
          here’s a completely sufficient number of Mossad informants for you, and besides, Zelensky himself can quite leak something there, he’s also a Jew, which means he is obliged to help, and admitting it to him or not is the tenth thing .. .

          How does he know the real losses? He personally did not count on the heads. And his subordinates, like an accountant from a joke, will count as much as necessary.
    5. +2
      April 24 2023 10: 19
      Quote from Orange Bigg
      The strength of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on this date is 734 thousand soldiers (plus 100 thousand reservists) and NATO officers, soldiers and mercenaries. The losses are:

      302 aircraft

      at the time of the start of the NWO, Ukraine had about 150 aircraft ... according to confirmed (photo / video / obituaries of the dead flyers), about 40-45 aircraft were destroyed ...
    6. -1
      April 26 2023 05: 50
      Russian couch experts enthusiastically count the number of dead Ukrainian soldiers and argue about the number of zeros. Ukrainian couch experts in the same way consider Russian losses, attributing more zeros ... And somewhere at that time, someone has a growing number of zeros in bank accounts (well, those who have a war have a mother)
  2. +4
    April 23 2023 22: 04
    The British magazine The Economist is of course a publication that speaks only the truth and nothing but the truth, it just needs to be believed (sarcasm). Why does the West need intelligence if their journalists know much more?! what
    1. +3
      April 23 2023 22: 47
      Quote: Leshak
      Why does the West need intelligence if their journalists know much more?!

      I do not dispute your thesis about Western journalism, however! In 1996-97, Russian journalists of all stripes calmly interviewed militant field commanders at the very time when the all-powerful intelligence could not find them in any way ...
      1. +3
        April 24 2023 00: 38
        Quote: lubesky
        Russian journalists of all stripes calmly interviewed militant field commanders at the very time when the all-powerful intelligence could not find them in any way ...

        It’s strange how, especially considering that the curators of both the militants and the so-called. liberals were the same ...
        1. +6
          April 24 2023 00: 55
          Quote from Bingo
          It’s strange how, especially considering that the curators of both the militants and the so-called. liberals were the same ...

          You are stating obvious things, but did it ever occur to you that intelligence in the end KNEW everything perfectly, but there was no order? hi

          You also say that EBN and his team had nothing to do with the curators, they were strong and spiritual, they cared for the interests of the Fatherland wassat
          1. +1
            April 24 2023 01: 27
            Quote: lubesky
            State the obvious things

            So I am in response to the fact that you think that the Economist really knows something about losses)
            It reminded me that during the First Chechen War, the plot "reconnaissance is fighting" appeared on the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company. Fucked up so sourly, they are filming from our side, the operator is calm ... Well, it’s not worth it, he’s sitting. The machine gunner generally killed - he stands in full growth, shoots back shortly along the ravine (at your leisure, try it - it takes you back, like you are skiing) ...
            Then this story surfaced. In fact, a reconnaissance platoon from the task of chapal, we were already asked in the rear to shoot, portray for television people, they got it ... They portrayed, the funny thing is, they ran into a colleague there. That machine gunner is Vlad Shurygin, google) Only an army journalist, from the Moscow Region
            1. +1
              April 24 2023 07: 21
              Wrote clumsily. The point is - journalists have pinned down, write how things are at the front. They hung noodles on them, "went" with them to a reconnaissance exit. And they are so happy, they told me on the Central Television how they all know about the situation at the front. But this is - OUR - OUR CT, who, in principle, will say something interesting with a non-sewn-to-bridle-sleeve from a province that is not fucking needed, breaking away from the EU? These are the grandmothers on the bench
  3. +9
    April 23 2023 22: 08
    I read the article in the original. Quite a competent article. Grippen is ideal for Ukraine. The aircraft was created by the Swedes to operate only in their own airspace for defense. It is not very suitable for long raids on foreign territory. low air intake for the engine. Ukrainians, if you please, remake their airfields to NATO standards, there should be no gaps in parking lots, taxiing and runways. I didn’t say this, it was the British.
    1. 0
      April 24 2023 09: 00
      According to Grippen, 36 years ago he did settlement and graphic work. From old memory, I slightly tracked the development of the project, production, testing and operation. I remember that the Americans in the 90s and 2000s did not let the Swedes win several tenders, they pushed through the delivery of the F-16 and the modernization of the F-5 a couple of times.

      After graduation, a teammate served in the south as a lieutenant for two years, sometimes he was a graduating assistant dispatcher. I once saw a piece of asphalt stuck to the wheel in a forty-degree heat, gave a red flag - a command to ban take-off. The gaps between the slabs were sealed with low-grade bitumen and crushed stone, in July everything floated.

      I also re-read .../2023/04/23/ukraines-air-force-wants-new-jets The article is reflections on the little things that they don’t want to give. There are 14 seemingly old unnecessary JAS-39s, or not, the decision has not been made. The words of the retired David Deptula are quoted in the same spirit: "If the West wanted, then 30 F-16s could be in Ukraine by the end of the year."
  4. +1
    April 23 2023 22: 11
    Don't read British magazines. Watch and listen to Konashenkov.
    1. 0
      April 23 2023 22: 46
      I appreciate your humor. Just don't hide it so deeply: you see, many believed that you completely trust the "general," they said. And he, in my opinion, has already become confused in his "most reliable" reports.
    2. +4
      April 24 2023 00: 23
      Don't read British magazines. Watch and listen to Konashenkov.

      Wooden waist-deep on top of the audience does not catch the sarcasm and downvotes. I myself have suffered from this many times.
      1. +3
        April 24 2023 04: 53
        Quote from invisible_man
        doesn't get sarcasm

        To smiley lol they don’t pay attention at all, and they don’t see the footnote / sarcasm / at close range ....
      2. +2
        April 24 2023 15: 12
        the audience does not catch sarcasm and puts minuses.

        That's what sarcasm is what I meant. I'm surprised at the number of downsides. request Well, you can't be that serious. fool
    3. -1
      April 24 2023 06: 32
      Almost 450 combat aircraft ... Well, what is it - 60, chickens laugh.
  5. +8
    April 23 2023 22: 33
    Well, of course, the British magazine will praise the successes of the Russian army in Ukraine. For them, Russians and Ukrainians are one and the same. And the more they kill each other, destroy, spend resources on weapons and ammunition, the better for the British.
    Their ideal is for the whole world to fight against each other, and they just watched it from the side from their island and had a gesheft)
  6. +1
    April 23 2023 22: 37
    The actual number of Ukrainian aircraft destroyed: MiG 29-30, Su 25-22, Su 27-12, L 39 Albatros-7, Su 24-22, unspecified 2. Total = 95. The accounting trick is that they only count those which were destroyed in the air with visual evidence. Russia wisely retained its aircraft, while destroying the Ukrainian fleet, of which almost nothing remains now. A completely different thing happened with the tank troops, which were squandered due to incompetence.
    1. -1
      April 23 2023 22: 48
      while destroying the Ukrainian fleet,

      It sounds good. Is there any comparative data on sunk tonnage? Really curious.
      1. 0
        April 24 2023 11: 41
        Quote from Aken
        Is there any comparative data on sunk tonnage?

        there!
        about 1/2 is not in favor of the Laos army!
        in fairness, we note that Laos has orders of magnitude more sorties !!!
        ps
        Well, the quantitative indicators are a comment above.
  7. +1
    April 23 2023 23: 04
    I wonder when the APU will finally receive these F-16s (and they will receive them, there is no doubt), what will it give them?
    Especially close to the front line, our air defense will definitely not let them in, and ours do not fly over their territories.
    And what will they do with these F-16s?
    1. +1
      April 23 2023 23: 25
      there will be no f16, the infrastructure does not match, they will not be able to operate them, all airfields need to be redone
    2. +1
      April 23 2023 23: 51
      Quote from sdivt
      And what will they do with these F-16s?

      In a positional meat grinder, they have nothing to do at all. Accordingly, if you attack decisively, then completely and more than.
      By the way, the f-16 is the last aircraft that can fight on its own. Detect the target and hit it. The notorious fifth generation without satellites and AWACS are flying blind irons. (I'm just talking about the US fifth, mind you! feel )
    3. -3
      April 23 2023 23: 54
      Actually - the current conflict showed an interesting thing .. More or less equipped modern air defense is almost impossible to completely suppress. Even the same as the Sumerians. About Russian - and there can be no talk .. Which means that significant losses in aviation are inevitable. With the current cost of aircraft, this actually means that it is extremely problematic to win air superiority. Especially the West, with its reverent attitude to losses. And this puts an end to the foundations of the bourgeois strategy of warfare, total air support for any requests from the ground. Without this, they seem to be basically incapable of fighting. With all the ensuing..
      1. +2
        April 24 2023 00: 20
        I read an article about air defense. The concept of massive missile and air strikes against large targets was put forward there. Those. a bunch of UAVs, aircraft with anti-radar missiles and jammers, decoys, cruise missiles and fighter bombers with missiles and bombs should simultaneously fly into Kiev. In this case, the air defense will be overloaded and partially destroyed, which will reduce losses. A raid by a dozen aircraft will only lead to their loss.
        1. -4
          April 24 2023 05: 29
          The Americans demonstrated this by bombing North Vietnam at the end of the war. Lost a lot, but the result was achieved.
          1. +3
            April 24 2023 05: 43
            The Americans demonstrated this by bombing North Vietnam at the end of the war. Lost a lot, but the result was achieved.

            And what is the result? The Americans and their South Vietnamese mongrels left Vietnam in disgrace. In the USA, the so-called. "Vietnamese Syndrome" of mental illness. So the result is at least doubtful.
      2. -1
        April 24 2023 01: 29
        Quote: paul3390
        With all that it implies ..

        "But there is no East, and there is no West, what is a tribe, a homeland, a clan, If a strong one with a strong one stands face to face at the edge of the earth?"
        Only "Mowgli", "Kim" and "dust from under boots" with "the road to Mandalay" are no longer theirs. And I read it to my daughter:
        Poems by Kipling
        translated by Elizabeth Polonskaya
        Music by Vera Matveeva

        "Near Mulmein Pagoda, on the east side,
        I know a girl from Burma remembers me, -
        And the bells sing there in the grove of palm branches:
        Return, stranger, return to Mandalay.

        Come back to Mandalay
        Where is the anchorage of the ships
        Hear the wheels slam
        From Rangoon to Mandalay...
        On the road to Mandalay
        A flock of flying fish beats,
        And the dawn, like thunder, comes
        Across the sea from China.

        Her hair is green, she is in a yellow skirt,
        Supi-Yau-Lat is named after Queen Tibau herself.
        I brought flowers, I see, to my idol,
        Spreads Christian kisses to him.

        That idol is a deity,
        Chief Buddha - call him.
        Then I kissed her
        Without asking anyone.
        On the road to Mandalay...

        And when the sun faded over the rice field, there was a haze,
        She wove a quiet song to me to the sounds of a banjo.
        She put her hand on my shoulder, and, cheek to cheek, then
        We watched the ships dive and rise

        Like monsters in the seas
        On creaking anchors
        At the hour when there is silence all around
        And the words inspire fear.
        On the road to Mandalay...

        It was and passed, do not return back those days,
        And the omnibuses don't go past the Bank to Mandalay!
        In gloomy London I learned the saying of sailors:
        Who hears the call from the East, forever remembers this call,

        Remembers the spicy spirit of flowers,
        The rustle of palm leaves.
        Remembers palm trees, remembers the sun,
        ringing bells,
        On the road to Mandalay...

        I'm tired of knocking down the soles of the cobblestone pavement,
        And the English drizzle sows trembling in my bones.
        Let me walk along the Strand with a dozen girls, -
        I am disgusted by their manners and the blush of rude faces.

        They talk about love
        But I don't need them
        I know a cuter girl
        In a distant sunny land.
        On the road to Mandalay...

        From Suez, rule to the east, where there is an animal trail in the forests,
        Where there are no commandments, there is no prohibition on life.
        Chu! the bells rang! I wanted to be there too
        Near the pagoda by the sea, on the east side.

        On the road to Mandalay
        Where is the anchorage of the ships
        Throw away all your worries
        Dropping anchor in Mandalay!
        Oh road to Mandalay
        Where flocks of fish fly
        And the dawn, like thunder, comes
        Across the sea from China ......."
        She cried. Me too.
      3. +1
        April 24 2023 12: 01
        Quote: paul3390
        Actually - the current conflict showed an interesting thing ..

        Quote: paul3390
        More or less equipped modern air defense is almost impossible to completely suppress. Even the same as the Sumerians.

        I think your analysis is wrong. you did not take into account that the air defense of the Sumerians has target designation, taken out beyond the limits of the defeat of the Russian Aerospace Forces !!!!
        Quote: paul3390
        About Russian - and there can be no talk ..

        Russian air defense has already missed strikes, and far from massive ones ...
        Quote: paul3390
        And this puts an end to the foundations of the bourgeois strategy of warfare, total air support for any requests from the ground.

        I think your conclusion is wrong. given the results of the NWO for a year with a ponytail and NATO's involvement in the conflict ... it's clearly too early to put an end to NATO's strategy !!!!
        Quote: paul3390
        Without this, they don’t seem to be able to fight, in principle.

        Well, you tell the defenders of Izyum and other cities of the Kharkov region ...
        Quote: paul3390
        With all that it implies ..
    4. 0
      April 24 2023 11: 46
      Quote from sdivt
      And what will they do with these F-16s?

      F16 will play the role of air defense ... information about our aircraft will be sent from AWACS to F16, F16 will fire an explosive missile in the direction ... in fact, as is now happening with BUKs, which fire missiles without target illumination by radars.
  8. +3
    April 24 2023 00: 24
    If a British magazine writes that strike tactics are right, then they are wrong.
  9. +4
    April 24 2023 01: 17
    MOSSAD are not children, the question is how accurately they are quoted. The main problem of the Ukropians is that they did not modernize the good flyers from Mig and Su. But they could! The price of the issue is 6-10 million dollars per flyer. But! It was a pity! So they went into battle, on the sides of 88-90. now there is nothing to modernize, they are asking for Western aircraft
  10. -2
    April 24 2023 01: 32
    After Konashenkov's early period (when everything is fine with him), after a year you understand ..... in the kingdom then .. belay
  11. 0
    April 24 2023 01: 43
    It seems that they bandaged it, apparently the usual meat is over if this is sent to the popel steppe.
  12. 0
    April 24 2023 03: 40
    Neat bastards, everyone counts. No need to touch the phishington, you need to destroy the poisonous "apple tree", especially since the "Posedon" requires a combat test.
  13. -1
    April 24 2023 04: 09
    And where did the 10 boards go?
    Lost 60. That's 40 percent. So it was 150? There are 80 left.
    60+80 = 150???
  14. +1
    April 24 2023 04: 23
    "Ukrainian air defense forces used up a huge number of surface-to-air missiles" - by the way, most of which destroyed buildings in Ukrainian cities (and in Polish ones), killing civilians in Ukraine!
  15. -1
    April 24 2023 05: 27
    If there is no mass production of rockets and aircraft. Then any remnants of air defense give rise to the passivity of aviation.
    If they released Geraniums in tens of thousands, like walk-behind tractors. If they built aircraft, at the level of the United States. "Caliber" flew not in tens, but in hundreds.
    That and the use of aviation would be different. It would be possible to lose 30% of the bomber fleet in a week, but it is realistic to destroy all the bridges across the DNEPR, knock out all the power plants, and not individual transformers. And continue the war on completely different conditions.
    Well, to compensate for the losses of aviation in six months.
    With such an economy, the tactics of using aviation would be different.
    As the Chinese used to say. SU-57 is the best fighter. But they can make 12 of them a year, the Chinese and Americans, even worse, will be the latest models, but hundreds a year. And quantity matters.
    1. +2
      April 24 2023 11: 43
      Quote: Mekey Iptyshev
      "Caliber" flew not in tens, but in hundreds
      In fact, in the 14 months of the war, we have dealt more cruise missile strikes than the Americans in all conflicts in the forty years since the introduction of Tomahawks into service.

      Quote: Mekey Iptyshev
      It would be possible to lose 30% of the fleet in a week
      Do women still give birth to pilots?
      1. 0
        April 25 2023 17: 19
        When MANPADS are hit, global destruction does not occur; they rarely explode from stationary and military units. There is an opportunity to leave the car. It remains only to arrange the rescue of the flyers. DRG Natsik, walks with impunity on the territory of the Russian Federation. Who is preventing us from creating strongholds, "partisan" detachments on the territory of the outskirts? In Syria, after all, they somehow pulled out flyers, and Hindus in Vietnam too. Without aviation, modern war cannot be won. She, combat, was created for this. To fight, to support the troops, and not to skim along the caponiers.
    2. +3
      April 24 2023 15: 05
      It would be possible to lose 30% of the bomber fleet in a week, but it is realistic to destroy all the bridges across the Dnieper

      Crews would also stamp on the conveyor? am
      Well, it is necessary, after all, at least occasionally to turn on the brain!

      Now for you - you are hopeless, but for members of the bridge destroyers sect.
      What is the point of destroying bridges at the cost of losing 30% of the fleet?
      This has never been practiced in the history of mankind.
      To destroy something that cannot be replaced or quickly restored (for example, the fleet), they still tried to do this, and that is a big question of PRICE.
      And bridges are replaced by a pontoon or ferry crossing in a few days.
      Yes, you can also destroy the pontoon crossing at the cost of 30% of the flight crew, and then again the pilots ran out. And the ferry will also be destroyed much harder.
      You say that the ferry has less capacity, yes less, but let's figure it out.
      For how much can 400 tanks be thrown (and Ukrainians don’t have more) across the Dnieper by 3 civilian ferries. The usual ones for us and for the Khokhloma sea. The ferry includes 2-3 tanks. The ferry turns around in an hour. Total 24 * 3 * 3 = 216 Total for TWO DAYS, all tanks will be thrown across the Dnieper.

      When does it even make sense to bomb bridges or say tunnels?
      And when everything else, when the recovery time is more than allowed, that is, for example, before an offensive or during an enemy offensive, or when a destroyed bridge cannot be restored, because it is under fire. These are all the basics, but illiterate sofas continue to persistently ask about crossings. am
  16. 0
    April 24 2023 05: 50
    Well, the Patriots have already begun to arrive, and the old manure has already been slaughtered by NATO.
  17. 0
    April 24 2023 09: 52
    Quote: Mekey Iptyshev
    If aircraft were built, at the level of the United States ... Then the use of aviation would be different. Could it be lose 30% of the bomber fleet in a weekbut really destroy all the bridges...

    30% of the bomber fleet, for example, with mass production, can be restored in a few years. Not in a week, of course. And not even for a year. Even in the USA - not in a year
    And what about the flight crew? One bomber lost = one crew lost. I note - a trained crew, high-class specialists
    What to do with this?
  18. 0
    April 24 2023 11: 24
    Sheer nonsense in the opus - "... However, the problem for Russian aviation is that since the beginning of the special operation of the RF Armed Forces, it has not been possible to completely suppress all air defense systems of Ukraine. Therefore, aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces have to launch missiles and bombs from a considerable distance in order to avoid being hit by Ukrainian air defense missiles .…" - Like this feel
    1. -2
      April 24 2023 14: 37
      The British counted something a little. Here Konashenkov thinks better, he has the most accurate data. Yes
  19. 0
    April 25 2023 15: 51
    The Pentathlete's brother showed up in England))) One five hundred shot down, the other counted backwards ... Funny guys ...
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    April 25 2023 15: 54
    Quote: bk316
    In total, in TWO DAYS, all tanks will be thrown across the Dnieper.

    I propose to remake the Dnieper to the Himalayas, it’s more reliable)))
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    April 25 2023 17: 26
    Their planes are shot down every day, they bring some nonsense. Maybe then it was not the planes that shot down, but the Swifts? Well, the question is where does Ukraine store its planes? Is it underground? Why hasn't the Russian Federation destroyed all the planes yet?

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