Diesel Electric Submarine LADA

The head boats of the series - pr.677 "Lada" - B-585 (sometimes the name B-100 and С-100, factory number 01570 is found) and the head pr. 677 "Amur" ("Amur-1650") were laid at the FSUE " Admiralty Shipyards ”(St. Petersburg) 26 December 1997. In 1997, the submarine B-585 was named“ St. Petersburg ”. Boat launched on October 28 2004 g.

The PL series of the 677 Ave. is in production - it is planned for the Russian Navy to build an 2009 PL of this type according to 8 plans. According to the State Armaments Program on 2007-2015, the construction of the 6 Submarine Ave. 677 is planned.

1. Submarine B-585 "St. Petersburg" pr.677 on the Neva River in St. Petersburg on the Day of the Navy

2. PL B-585 "St. Petersburg" pr.677 in Kronstadt, November 2010.

3. Quality and condition of the anhydroacoustic coating of the submarine B-585 "St. Petersburg"

4. Full electric movement with a single all-mode 2 electric motor x diesel generator 28DG DC Kolomna Plant and Electrosila JSC with 1000 kW power, the generator uses 8-cylinder V-shaped diesel D-49 with piston diameter 260 mm, piston stroke 260 mm and speeds up to 1000 rpm Diesel generators are remotely controlled from a central location using a digital control system.

5. Autonomy - 45 days Guaranteed service life - 25 years Guaranteed service life before the first repair - 10 years Noise PL - according to media reports, the noise level of 677 pr should be 50% of noise level of 877 submarine, which means that the noise level around 30 dB is calm

6. 1 shaft and 1 screw 7-blade fixed pitch with saber blades

7. Crew - 35 pax

8. 1 shaft and 1 screw 7-blade fixed pitch with saber blades

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10. Remote screw column RDK-35, PL B-585 "St. Petersburg"

11. Armament: 6 x Nasal 533-mm torpedo tubes with an air firing system and the Murena automatic quick silent reloading system (2 TA of the upper tier are adapted for firing remote-controlled torpedoes). According to TTZ for the creation of the submarine, it was supposed to install 4 TA with ammunition in 12 torpedoes. Ammunition - mines, 18 torpedoes (types SAET-60M, UGST and USET-80K), torpedo missiles "Shkval" and PKR "Turquoise" (Club-S), launched from torpedo tubes or 22 mines of the type DM-1.

12. Device №1 GAK "Lira" - a nasal quasiconformal noise-finding antenna of a large area L-01 Onboard quasi-conformal noise-guiding antenna GUS in the forward part of the body

13. General view and fragment of quasi-conformal noise-guided antenna GUS (fore and side) SJC "Lira"

14. Optronic mast "Parus-98UP" unified periscope complex "Parus-98E"

15. Unified Periscope Complex of the CPC "Parus-98"

16. Submarine "St. Petersburg" on the stocks "Admiralty Shipyards"

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18. The launch of the submarine "St. Petersburg" pr.677 on the water 28 October 2004

19. Submarine B-585 "St. Petersburg" pr.677 on the Neva River in St. Petersburg

Comments

[Foamas]

Who is the author of this monumental work ??
And how many years ago was it embodied in the text of this note?

[postman]

Quote: FoMaS

And how many years ago it was embodied in the text of this note

Posted by: DIMMI
Created by: 02.07.2009 01:16:11

http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-217.html

Project 677 - LADA

[Ross]

postman,

Oh, sometime in the 80's, for the simply forgotten anti-satellite disguise of the compartment on the carts, you could get into the 1 department.
Thanks for the photo, looked at your shop 20 years later.

[postman]

Quote: Ross

Oh, sometime in the 80s, for the simply forgotten anti-satellite disguise of the compartment

I will never forget notebooks under the control of the Specialists.

Quote: Ross

howling workshop 20 years later.

you can organize a tour .... if there is a desire
I have the youngest (2kl) visited by the whole class “Stereguschiy”, everyone is happy, the children really liked

[Tirpitz]

Great photo. But this sub is not something breakthrough and much inferior to the Swedes and Germans in terms of noise.

[Civil]

Tirpitz,

and how many conversations about VNU,

[beard999]

Quote: Civil

and how many conversations about VNU

“The St. Petersburg installation allows you to produce the hydrogen needed to generate electricity directly from diesel fuel and in exactly the quantities that are needed to provide electric movement under water. Western analogues suggest pumping hydrogen into special tanks, which increases the fire hazard of the submarine. The power capacity of the domestic installation is 400 kW. The best foreign analogues produce no more than 180 kW. A distinctive feature of the “Cupids" of the new generation is an organic synthesis of classics and revolutionary know-how. In addition to the non-volatile power plant, they have a familiar diesel generator and a number of batteries. ”
http://nvo.ng.ru/printed/275358
“Russia is currently completing tests of a fundamentally new air-independent power plant (VNEU), which can be installed not only on the Amur-1650, but also on jointly developed boats. And this is a critical condition of the Indian side. So the prospects are good here, "- said Komardin. The time the submarine stays under water due to the promising VNEU is more than 25 days. The time spent under water for foreign analogues of the Russian submarine is 15-20 days."
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20120329/608677248-print.html
“The adjusted technical design of the non-nuclear submarine Lada (project 677) was approved, a decision was made to resume the serial construction of the next two ships, Sevastopol and Kronstadt. It is planned to equip them with anaerobic non-volatile installations. The promising Russian VNEU allows the use of standard diesel fuel and does not require complex coastal maintenance. However, it does not have moving parts. In terms of acoustics, this is a great advantage. ”
http://ria.ru/interview/20120727/710049312-print.html
It seems that things have moved forward.

[postman]

Quote: beard999

The power capacity of the domestic installation is 400 kW. The best foreign analogues produce no more than 180 kW.

THIS IS "fairy tales"

Amur-1650VNEU = 200-240LW (recalculation of the underwater range of 650 miles and a residence time of up to 9 days under water compared to U212A (Efimov, 2001)
(according to UDC 629.12.03 "Specialized Ship Power Plants, Ship Mechanical Faculty, MA MGTU, Department of Ship Power Plants")
S-80 (Spain) 1 AIP fuel cell = 300 kW
type "Scorpion" (France Spain)
Type 212 A (Germany) 300 kW (9 x Siemens PEMx fuel cells 40 kW each (U31) or 2 x Siemens PEM fuel cells 120 kW (U32, U33, U34)
FIRST U212A submarine, August 2002. After almost a year of testing (from April 2003 to March 2004), submarines with electrochemical
generator (ECG), consisting of 16 fuel cells with a capacity of 25 kW = 400 kW
Type 214 (Germany) the same as 212, export variant
Project A26 (Sweden)
"Gotland", "Uppland" and "Holland" (Sweden) are two Stirling engines V4-275R Mk 2. and Stirling Mk 3 = 4 × Kawasaki Kockums V4-275R Stirling engines 3900 hp (2900 kW)

series PROJECT (Russia and Italy (Fincantieri) / Amur analog -950 = YES 400kW, but there may possibly be 2 (or 3) x AIP: Siemens SiNavyCIS BZM-120 (120kW each)

only type Agosta 90B (France) (S137 Hanza) is less than -200kW (but there is a special type of VNEU - MESMA steam turbine, steam from combustion of ethanol and compressed oxygen stored on board the boat) Agosta 90B = Scorpene type (France Spain)

And it all started (we based on German technology) in 1986 with the S-273, SS-273 (P-613E) ECG with a power of 280 kW:

[postman]

ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE WORKS OF FSUE TsNII SET
IN THE FIELD OF HYDROGEN ENERGY
Message from the Deputy Director - Head and
chief designer of hydrogen energy
FSUE TsNII SET VB Avakova at the seminar "European
Union - Russia. Joint research program in
hydrogen technologies and fuel cells ”in
6th Framework Program, Sustainable
energy systems "Moscow, September 29, 2004

[Flooding]

Quote: Tirpitz

far inferior to the Swedes and Germans in noise

More? Is there such data? Share it.

[tan0472]

Quote: Flood

More? Is there such data? Share it.

I support. And the noise level of 30 dB - is it a lot or a little? And what is the noise level of "probable friends"?

[postman]

Quote: tan0472

And the noise level of 30 dB is a lot or a little?

Quote: Author

the noise of pr.677 should be 50% of the noise of the submarine of pr.877, which means a calm noise level of about 30 dB

30dB This is a fairy tale
Typical Noise Levels

+ 10 dB: whisper
+ 20 dB: noise standard in residential premises
+25 dB: Off-Road Countryside
+ 35 dB: Room in a quiet apartment
+ 40 dB: quiet conversation
+ 80 dB: truck engine noise
+ 100 dB: car horn
+ 120 dB: pain threshold
+ 150 dB: takeoff
"Black hole" Soviet submarine with a conventional engine class "Kilo" is 97 decibels (dB), that very close to the natural noise of the ocean
“A low-noise submarine is a submarine with a noise level of less than 100 dB (relative to 1 μPa) and discrete (signature) components of the noise spectrum of less than 120 dB.
These boats include American submarines such as "Trident", "Los-Angeles", "Sea-Volf".
It is known that due to noise reduction measures, the general noise level of American boats drops at a rate of 1-2 dB per year. "

[Diesel]

Quote: Tirpitz

far inferior to the Swedes and Germans in noise

Where? How? Under what circumstances?

[postman]

Quote: Tirpitz

far inferior to the Swedes and Germans in noise

PL projects 212/214 (Germany). Boats are considered very high quality and good, as it were, by the majority of the not very knowledgeable population.
These German submarines are not very different in quality from Russian submarines 677 project.
Project 214 boats have ultra-high noise. So on the tests of the head submarine of project 214 in South Korea it was recorded excess of boat noise over declared as much as 40 decibels. As a result, the noise level was at the level of the first nuclear submarines. Yes, replacing the screw with your own, South Koreans achieved a noise reduction of 10 decibels, but the claimed parameters for the noise of the boats have not been achieved. In the Baltic Fleet exercises, Russian ships find the German submarines of project 212 much easier than the previous submarines of project 206. And this is due precisely to the fact that the submarines of project 212 are incredibly noisy.

[Lucky]

The first pancake is lumpy, we hope that everyone else in the series will be modernized and silent at all, as the ninja will move under water)))))

[Flooding]

I really want to read as soon as possible not about the diesel-electric Lada, but about Lada with VNEU. But I'm afraid I have to wait a long time.

[evgenii67]

So here she is what Lada Hellas

[mazdie]

It is strange to see a photo of a screw without camouflage, it seemed to me that this is the main secret.

[postman]

Quote: mazdie

It seemed to me that this is the main secret.

The technical design of the submarine pr.677 was approved in 1993,
Laid 1997

What's the "secret"

In February 2012, the Russian Navy already completely abandoned the construction of a diesel-electric submarine of Project 677 Lada (Amur-1650). The latest boats of the Lada project, Kronstadt and Sevastopol, which were being built before this time, will be modernized.

[hrenvamsredkoy]

Thank you for the article