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Tatarstan authorities will restore order in the republic - Sharia

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Rais Suleymanov - Head of the Volga Center for Regional and Ethnoreligious Studies of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies (RISS). RISS provides analytical materials to public authorities. This is usually the level of the Administration of the President of the Russian Federation, the Foreign Ministry, and the Foreign Intelligence Service. RISI has 8 branches throughout the country. The Volga Center opened in Kazan in 2011 year. The main task of the center is to monitor the situation in the Volga region, analyze the foreign influence on the region (here it is more ethnoreligious) and inform the highest echelons of the Russian authorities directly, bypassing local authorities.

What is your education?

Historian. Initially he specialized in the study of the Middle East, initially on the Arab-Israeli conflict, and later on political Islam in the region.

What prompted you to tackle the issue of radical Islam?

Before working at RISS, when I was engaged in the Middle East, I began to pay attention to the fact that the processes that became common for this region began to manifest themselves in my native Volga region.

Are there any objective criteria for assessing how the situation with radical Islam is in this or that region?

Yes, there are such criteria. First of all, it is the degree of political activity, which manifests itself in the traditional form: the rally activity, the frequency of political statements and so on. When it comes to Islamic fundamentalists, this is also what we get in the short run, that is, terrorist acts.

If we consider the Volga region under these criteria, what will we see?

Even before I started working at RISI, in 2009, I, watching the processes in the region, came to the conclusion that what is happening is developing according to the North Caucasus scenario. If we look at specific signs, then we follow the Ingush-Dagestan scenario. In 2010, we held a conference “Salafism in Tatarstan: distribution, conflict potential, countermeasures”. We discussed this problem with other local experts and voiced this opinion. The conference was held on 2 December 2010 of the year, a number of near-Muslim characters came to it ...

Explain

... Local Tatar nationalists, activists of the radical Islamist movement of Tatarstan, who have a negative attitude to the traditional for the Tatars current of Islam ... In general, it was quite interesting to look at them. They did not hide their skepticism about what was happening and asked questions like "What else will you think?", "What is the North Caucasus here?", "This can not be!". The trouble is that the conference itself was held a few days after the Nurlat events. (The special operation to eliminate the militants carried out by the Tatarstan security forces 25 November 2010 of the year in the Nulatsky district of Tatarstan. - approx. navoine.ru )

It was obvious that the situation was unhealthy, but the conclusions of the conference and the opinions of the participants were ridiculed. They said that we are alarmists, that we are spoiling the beautiful image of prosperous Tatarstan. In the end, they began to accuse us of working for some destructive forces. In the future, the situation went exactly according to the scenario that we predicted.

How did the situation develop?

Mufti Gusman Iskhakov, a person who patronized the Wahhabisation of the republic, leaves the post of head of the Muslims' Spiritual Administration (DUM) of Tatarstan. Even when Nurlat events occurred, it would seem that as an official he should have condemned the militants, but he suddenly does not condemn them, but makes very vague statements, where he accuses some forces of what happened. Indirectly alluding to the Russian authorities, who allegedly seek to strangle Muslims. (Currently, the ex-mufti is an adviser to the Deputy Minister of Justice and Islamic Affairs of Kuwait, Adel Falaha. - approx. navoine.ru).

In place of Iskhakov on an alternative basis, Ildus Fayzov is elected, who was the first deputy head of the former head of DUM, as well as the imam of the Kazan mosque Bulgar. Ildus Faizov was a staunch opponent of Wahhabism. The situation went so far that he had to start pursuing a policy of the devachabization of Tatarstan.

Was everything so serious?

Yes. First, the posts were held by people who did not hide their commitment to Wahhabism. For example, Almetyevskiy Mukhtasib Nail Sahibzyanov, who even boasted, said “yes, I am a Wahhabi, so what?”. In addition to the open Wahhabis, there were people who did not interfere with the Wahhabis to be active parishioners of their mosques.

And how many such active Wahhabi parishioners in the republic?

We calculated as follows: the average capacity of a small mosque is about 300 people. In any mosque there is an asset of regular parishioners, these are those who do not just go to pray, but those who participate in social and political life. If the Wahhabi mosque, then such an asset is 30-40 people. In large mosques, such as for example Kul Sharif with a capacity of 1500 people, such an asset was more than 100, maybe 120 people. Recounting such mosques, we got a figure for about 3000 people.

These are only those who go to the mosque. But there are still those who gather in the prayer rooms, equipped in the private sector, in apartments?

Yes. Now the practice of private Islamic centers is actively developing in the republic. The DUM of Tatarstan has parishes in its subordination. As a rule, the parish and the mosque are one and the same. The Muslim parish is a religious public organization registered in the Ministry of Justice and subordinate to the DUM of Tatarstan. The private spiritual and cultural center does not submit to any DUM. Usually, a businessman in a rented or owned area opens an Islamic spiritual and cultural center. For example, preschool or out-of-school education, or a leisure-cultural center, which is also used as a mosque. There are no legal levers of influence by the DUM on these private Islamic spiritual centers.

Private mosques are often created: this is when a person turns a cottage into a mosque, makes an extension in the form of a minaret, or the cottage itself builds in the appropriate form. At the same time, according to all documents, such a mosque is registered as a private cottage. The muftiate cannot influence them in any way. All the questions there are answered: “What are your complaints? This is a private cottage, private property. ”

There are still takfiris - this is the direction in Wahhabism - “Takfir-wal-Hijra”, they don’t go to mosques at all because, from their point of view, a mosque built with money from the Kaffer (wrong money, kafer - wrong, -app. navoine.ru), somehow controlled by the Käfer state and cannot go there.

It turns out that 3000 people are those who are visible, attend official mosques, and there are still an unknown number of people who gather in such cultural centers and private mosques. Or accounting of such people is also conducted?

Not. An 3000 person is an approximate total figure. And those who go to the official mosque, and those who do not go.

Is it a lot or a little?

This is enough. Because they recruit new supporters very easily. One must also understand that Islamism is a syncretic term. There are, for example, Hizb ut-Tahrir people who are not Wahhabis and promote political Islam in the legal field, but they are ready to support the actions of Wahhabis. There are classic Wahhabis or Salafis. Wahhabism and Salafism are words that are synonymous, like Nazism and Hitlerism. Nazism is an ideology, Hitlerism is the name of a phenomenon by the name of a person who implemented this ideology. In our case, there is Salafism as an ideology, and Wahhabism by the name of the person who implemented this teaching - Muhammad Abd al-Wahhab. There is a “Jamaat Tabligh” (“community of finishing”). When you see people in typical Pakistani clothes, then surely they are. There is Takfir-wal-Hijra - "community of accusations and resettlement." Part of their ideology is “that we cannot live on the territory of a non-Islamic state”, they call on Muslims to immigrate from Russia to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt and other Muslim countries. Now the representatives of this movement are returning back, having received certain, including military training, in Muslim countries. Then, the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan al-Muslimun), followers of Said Nursi (Nurists), Gulenists (they mainly work through various cultural centers), etc. The 3000 people voiced include almost all international organizations where radical Islamism is the ideology. And here is a very important point, despite the fact that these organizations have a number of fundamental contradictions among themselves, in Russia they have taken the path of pan-Islamism. At the time, postponing ideological differences, they act together.

Do they have some common authority that can influence these organizations?

There are such authorities abroad, for example, Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who sits in Qatar, although not necessarily all radical Islamists can support him. In Russia, there is no such person to whom all Wahhabis would listen. Another thing is that some of them start to play or try to use them for some of their purposes. We can see it in the face of the Council of Muftis of Russia, whose representatives have repeatedly made compliments to the same tableovts. For example, the Mufti of the Saratov region, Mukaddas Bibarsov, the co-chairman of the CMP, held an all-Russian congress of Jamaat Tablig in 2009 in his own mosque in Saratov. The organization is recognized in Russia as extremist and terrorist.

Are all organizations that are considered radical Islamist banned or are there those who operate in the legal field?

There is ideology without an organization, and sometimes an organization with an ideology. Organization can be banned, but it is very difficult to ban ideology. Although it is possible. In Dagestan, Wahhabism was banned in the 1999 year, with the beginning of the Second Chechen War. But there they did it only on the scale of one republic, and not the whole country. Thus, it allows lobbyists to say that the republican law in Dagestan on the prohibition of Wahhabism is not constitutional.

Speaking of the lobby. In your works you often refer to the presence of the Wahhabi lobby in the country, tell us in more detail what it is?

This is a collection of people who are very active and persistent in the information space, in organizational and personnel matters, making administrative and state decisions, pursuing the line of legalizing and whitewashing Wahhabism and other forms of radical Islam in the country and in every way hinder traditional Islam. An example of the work of such a lobby is the events in Kazan 19 in July of this year, what happened after the terrorist attack. We see who plays the most important commentators here: Maxim Shevchenko and Heydar Jemal. Immediately after the terrorist attack, Maksim Shevchenko unfoundedly declares that it’s about money. Jemal declares that this is a matter of special services. Not a word about the problem of Wahhabism, they deny it altogether. Representatives of secular media for these ideas are very easy to buy. People, as a rule, are judged by themselves: “I will not do anything for nothing” and “money rules the world” or “this is the work of the special services”. Such an excuse goes well in the liberal media. In general, Wahhabi lobbyists in the media are those who deny the existence of the very problem of radical Islam, and exposing everything either as a confrontation between “good Muslims with an evil state” or as “money fights”.

A conspiracy thesis is being launched that the Russian state wants to destroy the Muslims and in general it is very often Islamophobic. If you follow this logic, it may seem that the security services are just sadists who have nothing to do, and they arrange bloody terrorist attacks, they blow up people just to blame someone for something. Such ideas are mainly promoted by liberal figures who are happy to be deceived in this way.

And how do people get along in their heads like that, with the same Shevchenko, a patriot-statesman, love for Wahhabis who oppose this state?

It is easy to get along, as it does not seem strange, the Wahhabi lobby is represented in various fields, including in patriotic organizations: "We must be friends with the Wahhabis, with the Islamists, because they are on the front line against the United States." Sometimes it takes just clinical forms, the same anti-Israelism. It reaches marasmus. If you look closely, Israel is attracting somewhere 70% of the attention of radical Islam. The same Hamas, which is now among our allies, financed Chechen militants. There would be no Israel, he would have thrown all his forces against our country. If you look objectively, now Israel is the only Middle Eastern country where the number of Christians is increasing demographically. In all other countries, flight, from Egypt to Syria.

Is only Jemal and Shevchenko at the federal level lobbying Wahhabis, because there are still those who represent their financial interests, legal support?

Yes, there are such people at the regional and federal levels.

Can you name names?

For a wider audience not. But there are such people at the highest level.

Do they hold Wahhabi views?

Not. Yes, it is not necessary. It is a fallacy to assume that the Wahhabi lobby is Wahhabis who promote their interests. The same Jemal positions himself as Shiite. At the same time, Shiism and Wahhabism are opposing ideologies, and Wahhabis hate Shiites more than Christians. Although in the case of Jemal, it is not clear why Shiite acts as a Wahhabi lobbyist?

Is radical Islam in Russia a political force? Does he have political ambitions, what tasks does he set for himself?

Yes, first of all they seek legalization. They are currently trying to do this by joining the opposition movement. They have been attempting to join the belolentochny movement since the end of 2011, then they initiated the Islamic Civil Charter, which was signed by many representatives of the Islamist movement.

Once we remembered about the protests, this question: is it correct to consider events in the Volga region and in the Caucasus, as part of global events called the “Arab spring”?

Correctly, moreover, the way it is. See what happens. In July, 2011 after the terrorist attacks, the lobbyists and the part of the intelligentsia that support them, begin to vehemently deny the presence of Wahhabis in the republic. Police detained people. They were held for several days, released, but the unpleasant residue remained. The Islamists played on this discontent. They went to an alliance with local separatists (quite secular people) who have a wealth of experience in organizing protest actions. In order to organize a march or rally, we need knowledge and skills, how to apply, how and where to stand, and so on. Islamic fundamentalists at first had no such knowledge ..

29 July they organize the first picket "in defense of Muslims". Here they made the substitution of concepts - the fight against Wahhabism, they call the fight against Islam. Pro-Wahhabi resources write about the persecution of innocent Muslims, in fact - these are preventive measures against Wahhabis. The picket was held against the background of this hysteria and general discontent with the Russian authorities. It uses liberal human rights demagogy: "human rights, the rights of Muslims, the terrible Russian state that fights against Muslims." Very similar to Tunisia and Egypt, there, too, all the rally activity began with the slogans "for human rights" and "freedom for repressed Muslims."

Islamists came to the rally in Kazan with the flags of the future caliphate, they don’t even deny it. These are the very black cloths with white Arabic script, where shahada is written - evidence of the Islamic faith, or vice versa - white cloths with black letters. These are the flags of Hizb ut-Tahrir, and the members of this organization are with them. At the same time, they gathered legally, despite the fact that the organization itself was banned in Russia since 2003, as a terrorist one.

A week later, on August 5, they hold another rally, at which they already say that “we need an Islamic state, and secular authorities should be overthrown”.

Is there a risk that the radicals will be able to legally come to power at least at the regional level, for example, having received support from legal parties and organizations?

Perhaps there were examples in the 1990s, when radical Tatar nationalists were present in parliament.

And in the current situation, when we have a political monopoly of one party for a long time?

Not everything is forever, we had the experience when 74 of the year was the monopoly of one party. Now events are developing much faster, one year can be counted for 5 years. I would not rule out the possibility that the Islamists may officially appear in state bodies. They work for the future.

Explain?

As I said in the political field, their key task is to legalize. And for this they will try by all means to dismiss the charges of terrorism. Thus, they will be able to work fully in the legal political field. The Memorial Human Rights Center, for example, helps them in this, and it is not the only one. They have long been trying to legalize Hizb ut-Tahrir. Consistently seek to cancel the decision of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation, which recognized the organization as terrorist. If they achieve their goal, the police will not have the legal ability to influence the members of the organization.

And now that threatens for membership in such an organization?

If a person does not hide membership and the fact is proved, then the minimum conditional term. For example, the imam of the Al-Ikhlas Kazan mosque Rustam Safin in 2009 was just sentenced to a suspended sentence of 2 for membership in Hizb-ut-Tahrir. Now, by the way, he is one of the active participants in all these rallies.

How do Russian Islamists contact their foreign counterparts?

Like all other people. Communicate on Skype, via the Internet, go abroad. Nobody forbids to leave the country, and, by the way, nobody forbids to enter the country. A very serious problem is foreign religious education. A person who spends a long time in a foreign society quickly penetrates Wahhabi ideas. He can be recruited without even noticing it.

How is it - without noticing it?

See what the danger of foreign religious education? A man who has just graduated from school is 17. Leaves to study in Saudi Arabia for 8 years. He sees the orders that exist there, and accepts them as true: "This is the real Islam, the real Islamic society, we must take an example from it." After 8 years he returns to his homeland. What does he see? He sees that Muslims and Christians live together, live peacefully, can marry. It is considered normal in Tatarstan to congratulate Russian Tatars on Christian holidays, and vice versa, Russians calmly congratulate Tatars on Muslim holidays. Give Easter cakes to each other for Easter or treat lamb to Kurban-bayram.

For the soaked up norms and rules of the society of Saudi Arabia, this is nonsense. In Saudi Arabia, Christianity is generally prohibited. There, even in relation to Muslims of other trends, outright discrimination is exercised. I mean Shiites. Their position there is even worse than that of migrant workers in Russia. Getting out of such a society in the modern Russian, a person experiences a cultural shock. He is trying to change the situation. How? Becoming the imam of the mosque, he begins with its minbar (pulpit) to promote the installations that he received while being trained.

Are there any numbers, how many such preachers studied and study in Islamic educational institutions in Saudi Arabia and other countries?

Unfortunately, such statistics until recently no one led. I have a figure for 2010 year in Tatarstan, I take only this region. At 2010 year, we knew that only in Saudi Arabia does 120 Tatars study. These are only those who came into view. They can travel on a tourist visa or through other countries. A person travels, for example, to Egypt, and from there he moves to Saudi Arabia. In the 2011 year, I know that, bypassing the DUM, 20 people still left, for the 2012 year there are no numbers yet, but I do not exclude that the number is growing. Around 68 Tatars study in Wahhabi madrasah in Alexandria.

In addition to studying abroad, after all, there were also educational institutions in Russia where Wahhabis teach?

Yes. Back in the nineties and early zero, Islamic schools in Russia, established by Arabs, functioned. There were many people willing to receive an Islamic education then, but not all of them could provide travel, accommodation, food. Therefore, opened schools here, where they taught by textbooks from Saudi Arabia. Such madrasas functioned in Naberezhnye Chelny, Nizhnekamsk, Almetyevsk.

At the same time, when these madrasas were closed, their students and teachers did not disappear.

Exactly. They simply began to continue their educational activities in private. Here, the previously mentioned private Islamic cultural centers, are engaged in such activities. We have a village in the country High Mountain, it is 19 kilometers from Kazan. There is an Islamic educational center "Family." One of the teachers, Shavkat Abubakirov, was the imam of the Kazan mosque “Enilar”, he himself studied in Saudi Arabia, in one of his interviews he stated that all the Tatar traditional theological heritage (30 thousand volumes) is not worth half of those books that stand on his bookshelf (it was about literature brought from Saudi Arabia). After the traditional Muslims expelled him, he left for this private Islamic center.

It is a well-known fact that Wahhabis from Russia are involved in hostilities on the territory of other countries: in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine. You own the data, how many such fighters operate abroad, what is the scale of this phenomenon?

The first popular destination among the Russian Mujahideen abroad was Afghanistan. There even appeared a kind of fraternity. In the 1999, the "Jamaat of Bulgar" appears. It was founded by immigrants from Tatarstan. So named in honor of the medieval Islamic state in the Volga region - Volga Bulgaria. In the 2001 year, when the Americans entered Afghanistan, many of them took part in the hostilities. Some were even caught and sent to Guantanamo. (prison for captured representatives of the Taliban and Al Qaeda at the US military base in Cuba - approx. navoine.ru). If you remember, at the beginning of the 2000s, the Russian media widely discussed the presence of Russians in Guantanamo. These are the members of the “Jamaat of Bulgar”. They were later released, returned to Russia. Here they were represented as heroes, fighters against the “American military”. However, returning to Russia, they continued jihad. A vivid example is Ayrat Vakhitov. Returning from Guantanamo to Naberezhnye Chelny, he began to conduct Wahhabi propaganda via the Internet. I made video appeals. In the end, local prosecutors brought to justice. Now he is fighting in Syria in the ranks of the Wahhabis against Bashar al-Assad.

When the US Army established control over the territory of Afghanistan, the "Jamaat of Bulgar" moved to Waziristan (Northern Province of Pakistan). Specifically, in the settlement of Degon. Gradually not only Tatars began to come to Jamaat. Their leader, even at one time was Dagestani. There were moments when most were not immigrants from Russia, but our former compatriots from the countries of Central Asia. One of the leaders of the jamaat was an ethnic Uygur from Uzbekistan. One can even come across such a name “Bulgarian-Uigur Jamaat”. This association is not the only organization of this kind. It is interesting first of all because it is the first self-organized structure of our compatriots leading the “jihad”.

There are many who travel abroad to “jihad” through their own channels. With any localities such people do not contact. For example, the son of Ruslan Gelayev, who recently died in Syria, he is not alone. There, whole groups of our compatriots from the Caucasus and the Volga region are fighting. Many of them fought in Palestine, in Libya.

True, in Syria, the war turned out to be more difficult. Some of the militants who fought there returned to Russia via Turkey.

By the way, in August-September of 2012, the media included information that a group of militants who fought in Syria are in the Volga region, do you know anything about this?

First, they are here to wait, “lick” wounds. Fighting is also difficult psychologically, you need rest. Secondly, these people have an important quality - combat experience. The fact is that if we look at the local Wahhabis, they do not yet have this military professionalism. This is evident even in the terrorist attacks that they organized this year. An attempt on the mufti did not bring results. Self-explosions often occur during the production of explosive devices during transportation. Feels dilettantism in the organization. In general, people with such experience among local Wahhabis are in demand.

And how does the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB react to the fact that participants in hostilities in the territory of a foreign state are in Russia?

Does not react, while only fixes. The fact of the presence of these militants in the republic was forced to recognize the head of the FSB department in Naberezhnye Chelny. He publicly stated at a round table at the local city executive committee that far from peace-loving people began to return from Syria. You understand that such a person can not directly say, but with hints says that some strange characters are returning from there. At the same time, these are not only Syrian Arabs, although there are such people too, these are our Russian citizens.

And how many of these potential militants from Syria are in Russia?

The FMS office says that 56 is a Syrian-born person.

Are there any figures, how many Russian citizens have experience in conducting military operations abroad as part of Islamist units?

It is hard to say. The Bulgarian Jamaat was from 120 man, but they had a big turnover, 120 man was the main core. Someone left, came, died. By the way, it is still functioning now; you can even enter “Bulgar Jamaat” or “Vkontakte” in “YouTube” and see their videos. Participants pose with weapons, they sing fighting songs in the Tatar language, which by their aesthetics attract many.

You mentioned that many immigrants from the former Soviet republics of Central Asia are included in the Bulgarian Dajamaat. And how common are radical views among those traveling as migrant workers to Russia?

Distributed very widely. It began after the end of the civil war in Tajikistan in the 1990s. The losers fled, part to Afghanistan, which was under the rule of the Taliban, part to Russia. They did not manage to escape to China: in this respect, the Chinese authorities did not stand on ceremony, but simply shot uninvited guests, because there were many religious extremists among them. Arriving in Russia, they found themselves in the position of migrant workers, went a long way of socialization. In the end, many of them settled down and took root here. You probably read about the incident in the village of Shumkovo, Rybnoslobodsky district of Tatarstan? A very significant case. When the Russian village was settled by Tajik migrants who adhere to Islamic fundamentalism.

That is, hiding from their dictatorships, religious fundamentalists are fleeing to Russia?

Yes, if you remember the events in Andijan in 2005? There were no ceremony with them.

How massive is this phenomenon and does it pose a serious threat to the citizens of Russia?

I will give the facts, and draw your own conclusions. When active Islamist street performances began in Kazan in the summer of 2012, the main core consisted of migrants from Central Asia. They were the most aggressive and active part of the crowd. For example, Abdulla Mumidjanov, himself a native of Uzbekistan, a migrant, one of the organizers of protest rallies in Kazan.

And in the Moscow region do you have information?

The situation is the most negative way. The process of ghetto formation is underway, a vivid example is Prospect Mira in Moscow. This can be seen even by the fact that the police do not control the situation there and is afraid to go there. We see the police, the riot police, from there they are being squeezed out, and I am afraid that the authorities can put up with it. It will turn out as in some cities of Western Europe, when in some quarters of Paris, Berlin, Copenhagen, London, the police are afraid to stop by even in the afternoon.

And in such ghettos are spread including radical ideas?

Yes. It is foolish to deny that everything is smooth and peaceful there.

In your opinion, how fair is the statement that Asian people in Russia, on the contrary, are corrupted, begin to drink vodka, and morally degrade? Such people are not much disposed towards the preaching of Islam?

This is a stereotype. Yes, of course, there are such examples when the Russian reality decomposes. This is true not only in relation to migrant workers, but also to internal migrants. For example, those who come from the North Caucasus to the cities of Central Russia. We see how many position themselves as Muslims, but at the same time they can drink, smoke, enter into premarital sexual relations, which, according to Islamic norms, is considered haram (prohibition). But we must understand that with the migration of labor goes and religious migration. The percentage of fundamentalists moving with the general flow of migrants is gradually increasing. Those who can be called opposition to the secular regimes of Central Asia, unable to simply exist there, are fleeing to Russia. Live and integrate into society as labor migrants. Often they see their own identity through religious fundamentalism. They actively conduct their sermon among migrant workers. There are examples where such migrants even reached the post of mufti. We can see how in Siberia the posts of imams, previously historically preserved for the Tatars, are occupied by ethnic Tajiks and Uzbeks.

Such migrants have their own mosques or go to the official, state?

At first, go to those that are. In Moscow, for example, there is no particular choice. In Tatarstan, since there are 1300 mosques there is a choice. In Kazan, migrants attend both ordinary and fundamentalist mosques. Fundamentalist migrants naturally prefer those where the clergy hold similar views. For example, the Kazan mosque "Al-Ikhlas" or "Nurulla".

At the same time in Moscow, we see migrants in large numbers only 2 times a year: on Kurban-bayram and Uraza-bayram. In other cases, for example, on Fridays, there are not as many people crowded on Prospect Mira.

It must be understood that for serious problems it is not necessary that 100% of migrants become religious fundamentalists. One percent is enough. In relation to the total mass of migrants living in the country, this is a huge amount.

Let's go back to Tatarstan. The murder of Valiuly Yakupov and the assassination of Ildus Faizov. How did the authorities respond to these events? So much time has passed, how can we evaluate these actions?

They reacted very half-heartedly and very poorly. 3 August 2012 was held an extraordinary meeting of the local parliament, at which it was decided to amend the local law "On religious organizations." According to the amendments, religious organizations have the right to establish qualification requirements for their own employees. The purpose of these amendments is that any religious organization, in our case - the DUM of Tatarstan, could demand that there be no people on the posts of imams who do not have native Muslim education. Fundamentalists are trying to repeal this law. They are trying to sue, claiming that such a requirement is not constitutional.

Anything else?

The head of the Department for Cooperation with Religious Associations of the Office of the President of Tatarstan, Marat Gatin, known for not contributing to devakhabization of the republic, was removed.

Someone taken into custody?

Forest mojaheds of Tatarstan appeared. Headed by "Amir Mohammed," as he calls himself. Real name Rais Migaleev. He and his jamaat took all the blame. All those arrested, seven people, were released, despite the fact that there were different characters. From "Sheikh Umar" (real name - Ayrat Shakirov) to the ideologist of "prison jihad" Marat Kudakaev. The latter is known for working under Gusman Iskhakov as head of the department for work with prisoners of the SAD of Tatarstan. He walked around the zones and campaigned for jihad by the prisoners during 8 years. He had ideas that the Tatars should rise to holy war. But the majority of Tatars, as Kudakayev believed, are “sheep”, because they are too law-abiding. Therefore, emphasis should be placed on those who can take up arms, and criminals who are convicted, who are desperate by nature, who have already killed, are suitable for this role. In general, crime should be the vanguard of jihad. In principle, the ideology of "prison jihad" works: fundamentalism in their environment is spread like a virus.

What is the composition of the Mujahideen of Tatarstan?

Judge for yourself. “Amir Mohammed” is from Chistopol. There is a Zakam region in Tatarstan - this is the most Wahhabised part of the republic. Here in Chistopol had its own organized crime group in 1990-s, called "Tatarinsky". Mingaleev just entered there.

It turns out, the criminal group raised the banner of jihad?

Yes, there is a Wahhabization of crime.

Do you think this is a sincere impulse? Do these people believe or is it just a mercenary calculation?

How do Wahhabi organized criminal groups act in our country? If in 1990, they just came to the market and engaged in racketeering on the principle: “you trade - pay me a tribute, and I give you a roof”. Now everything is a little different. The same athletic build guys are suitable, only bearded. They say: "Pay zakat (alms)" - if the seller is a Muslim. If not a Muslim, Russian or Armenian, then “pay jizyu” is a tax for the wrong, “and we will defend you”. What is the difference with classic racketeers? I do not see much difference, only the gangster racket replaced the religious one, but the essence is the same.

Can we say how many forest trees there are in Tatarstan now?

On the first video, where Mingaleev spoke, you can see 7 people.

That is, at least 7 people?

So far, yes, but we must understand that many militants are not needed. How many militants do you think of Doku Umarov do you think? Really 200 man. The jamaat of mojaheds cannot be big. There can not be thousands of people. Even the stationary camp must be provided with food, weapons, ammunition. If desired, these seven people can create serious problems. In addition, in Tatarstan, where the woodland is not as thick as in the North Caucasus, a certain version of the guerrilla (urban war) is possible. You should not, in general, assume that "sitting seven people in the forest - what nonsense."

The “Caucasus Emirate”, for example, is not only militants, but also those who are in the legal field. These are those who finance, support morally, lead the recruitment of new supporters ...

Your forecast: how will the situation with radical Islam in Tatarstan develop? How will the Islamists behave? How will power react?

I'll start with the last one. Now there is a tendency to whitewash Wahhabism. In Tatarstan, the existence of radical Islam has long been denied. Remember, I first mentioned the 2010 conference of the year. Officials told us: “What is Wahhabism? What are you carrying?". Now recognized the problem, because it is impossible to silence. But now they are trying to advance another idea: “Tatar Wahhabis are not like Caucasian Wahhabis. They are such good, peace-loving and tolerant. ” Of course, I exaggerate, but the meaning of rhetoric is just that. Yes, they say, there are radicals among them, but their minority. This, they say, in fact, such dissidents. Do not pursue them, do not fight them, they must be legalized, you need a dialogue with them: blah blah blah and in the same spirit. Although the experience of Dagestan demonstrates to us that any dialogue with Wahhabis ends with terrorist acts. Then I do not see the difference between moderate and radical Wahhabi. Do you see the difference between a moderate and a radical killer? Me not.

As I understand it, the moderates do not blow up the stops, they do not kill people.

Maybe. But they finance and support those who kill. So how are they better?

On the part of the regional authorities, such tendencies towards attempts to whitewash local Wahhabism have emerged. They are trying to create the illusion that everything is wonderful here. Wahhabis, yes, there are, but they are under control. In general, they are moderate, just do not agree with the mufti. And the Mufti is guilty, which is amazing, they put up the fight against Wahhabism. The only normal mufti for the entire post-Soviet history Tatarstan, and officials are trying to blame him for his fight against Wahhabism. All the same, that the policeman to blame the fight against crime.

So after all, how will events continue?

You know, I really do not want to, of course, predict such a scenario, but, alas, it will most likely be. I think they will reproduce the experience of taking hostages like Nord-Ost or Beslan.

On the basis of what you came to this conclusion?

We are actively engaged in monitoring forums, blogs, social networks. It is interesting to observe when Tatar Wahhabis participate in them. How do they start to lead discussions? The terrorist acts that took place there simply caused an euphoria of joy. Basayev, who captured the maternity hospital in Budennovsk, is idealized. Reproduced the idea that "we can act the same methods." If we recall the seizure of the school in Beslan, no one put forward demands: "Give us money, and we will fly away by plane." The terrorists were well aware that death awaited them, anyway. Here is the same. The material does not play a role in the ideological component of Wahhabism. At least, not in the first place - that's for sure. And when you analyze, you are amazed how everything that happens in the Muslim environment of Tatarstan coincides with what happened in the North Caucasus. For example, you read how a seventeen-year-old kid at the Salafi Internet forum begins to reason: “Brothers! But my dad does not read namaz, he is a kafer, can I take out pocket money from him? ”If a person’s own parents have a head, their relatives are perceived as being alien, unfaithful, with all the attitudes towards them, then think about what might happen next. As in Dagestan. There was a very significant case. The son of a police colonel, who was under the influence of the Wahhabis, opened the door to his own apartment. They went in, killed his father, he knew this and made sure that they killed his own father as a kafera. This is a true story.

Taking hostages is one of the options. It is possible that they will shoot the representatives of the authorities, the police from simple district officers to generals. In addition, we often see the passivity of regional authorities. It was very clearly seen at rallies. When they came out with the flags of the terrorist organization Hizb ut-Tahrir and decided to hold a rally "according to the Shari'a": they divided the rally participants by gender. Women on the left, men on the right. At the same time, they created their own Islamic police, some of the participants wore green vests and went around, looking for women not to go to the male half, and men to the female. Even secular journalists were forced to stand on the women's side. And even those present at the rally of city police fundamentalists forced to obey and take the male side. And they obeyed. And at a rally from the podium, shouting about the need to overthrow the secular power and build a caliphate. Well, someone from these protesters really punished? I answer: no.

What is your forecast for 2013 year?

First, we have a very important event in Kazan in 2013. This is the Universiade. This is a major sporting event, the second largest after the Olympics. The Universiade in Kazan is a kind of exam for Russia, on the eve of the Sochi Olympics-2014. Delegations from all countries of the world will come to this event, great attention will be attracted to it. This is the best way for Wahhabis to express themselves. At the same time, we do not see that the security situation for the Olympics is improving. It all began with the Nurlat events, where the militants sat in the forest. Then the explosions were on the outskirts of Kazan. In January, the home laboratory for the production of explosives was discovered in the village of Mendel of the same Vysokogorsky District, 2012. It was the cottage where Rustam Yusupov lived, he himself came from Uzbekistan (and, as a member of Hizb ut-Tahrir, he was wanted in Uzbekistan). Yusupov made explosives at home, she exploded with him, he was frightened by the police arrival and went on the run. During the arrest, Yusupov resisted, wounded the policeman with a knife in the neck, and Yusupov was eventually shot to death. So he did at home shahid belts. This is near Kazan. After that, explosions occur already in Kazan itself. The mufti was wounded; in the doorway of his own house, his deputy Valliulu Yakupov, a famous Tatar theologian, was shot at close range. Bombs are found in other cities of the republic, some of them explode and injure people (it passed in Memdel, where the father of the terrorist Yusupov blew up on the bomb of his son, this is in Almetyevsk, where the woman's arm was torn off). We even found a car filled with explosives near the Interior Ministry building. 20 August 2012 was hit by a car in which fundamentalists were driving, by the way, among them were the participants of this summer rally. Apparently, when they were transporting a bomb, they accidentally exploded from them. There is a certain dilettantism among Tatar terrorists. Here we see that now the explosion occurred in Almetyevsk. The situation is getting worse, explosions are already occurring in Kazan, there is no evidence that something will improve by the Universiade.

Another very important point. By their actions, the Wahhabis inflict fear on people. The murder of Valiuly Yakupov and the terrorist attack against the mufti intimidated many traditional imams. It turned out that in order to subordinate all it is not necessary that each mosque have an imam-Wahhabi. Wahhabis come to the mosque, where the traditional imam, and begin to dictate the terms: "If you surrender us to the police or complain, you will not be left alive." People are afraid. I personally some imams reported threats to them. But they do not know what to do in this situation. The demoralization of the clergy was achieved by the Wahhabis.

Is the police not responding?

Not. Yes, and how she can respond. The imam to the district police officer complains, he will say: “You know, I have an 10 person going to the mosque, they are very strange, Wahhabis, take action.” Well, what will the police do? How will she react? Come, talk, and what?

How do you assess the work of the special services to investigate the terrorist attack?

Let us pay tribute: security forces act like professionals. I very positively characterize General Artem Hochorin (Ministry of Internal Affairs for Tatarstan) and General Alexander Antonov (UFSB for Tatarstan). I really appreciate their work. But they often have their hands tied due to the fact that the local regional leadership does not have the political will to fight Wahhabism. We sometimes have to hear from the security forces: “We know that this one is a Wahhabi, but we cannot arrest him, we do not have formal grounds for this.” There are experts who are of the opinion that it is necessary to go on temporary restrictions of some constitutional norms. But liberals and self-proclaimed human rights activists of every kind there will immediately begin to howl, shrieking, they begin to dream that the state will take advantage of this to simply destroy the unwanted.

Are siloviki sincere people?

There are those who can be called patriots who are really very sincere about the cause. And there are those for whom it would be better not to have this problem. I even know that from the side of some siloki one can hear such: “That’s Suleymanov created a problem for us”. Or: “So Suleymanov created additional work for us”.

That is, they are dissatisfied with your activity, with the fact that “you need the most”?

Moreover, they are asked for it. Many may lose their posts and epaulets. Sometimes it comes to insanity: discussing not how to solve the problem I’m talking about, but how to discredit me, eliminate or silence. The logic of the officials of the Kazan Kremlin: let's not discuss the problem - and it seems there will be no problems. And the one who says that in Tatarstan there is a problem of Wahhabism, he is an enemy of Tatarstan. This is evidence of the ultimate ideological misery of local authorities. Now they are following this tactic - they are going to neutralize me with the help of judicial reprisal. Some little-known nationalist organizations are writing complaints to the prosecutor’s office to be held accountable “for inciting hatred towards the Tatar people” - this is what the call for the fight against Wahhabism and terrorism is now called.

After the attack, did any organizational conclusions for the power block of Tatarstan follow?

In some areas, it comes to the fact that law enforcement agencies are beginning to "protect" Wahhabis. “They are normal guys, that you touch them? Well, yes, they are orthodox, but, nevertheless, normal ”- this is what we hear from the siloviki. This is shocking. Or there was a case when we met Ensign SOBR (now - OMSN). He sits, not drunk, nothing and in all seriousness begins to argue on the topic: "Yes, it would be good to live according to Sharia." Here you look at this and think: "But if they give him an order to shoot?" What will he do at a crucial moment? We, of course, notified the security officials, but we don’t know if there were any organizational conclusions, but nevertheless, this fact in itself is very indicative.

When you reveal it, they look at you like an idiot, as if I am an alarmist. Besides, I cannot voice some things in public or speak openly about some things. Especially when you talk about who “protects” Wahhabis in Tatarstan at the level of officials. If I talk about this, I will criticize them, they will just “soak me” and then dump them on Wahhabis. You are faced with a situation, you see that this is the very Wahhabi holding, by which the late Valiulla Yakupov understood the merging of Wahhabism, business and bureaucracy.

By the way, do you think that the appointment of Vladislav Surkov as a curator on the interaction of the state and religious organizations will be able to improve the situation?

Time will tell. On the one hand, some say that Surkov is a skilled technologist in politics. On the other hand, in practice, it happens that you sit with some officials, tell them about the problem of Wahhabism, and they: “Why should we support traditional muftis? We artificially support them, and Wahhabis are popular among young people; maybe we can better agree with them and support them? ” And this is said by high-ranking bureaucrats. It turns out that if you follow this logic, then let's support not Putin, but Navalny, he is also popular with a certain part of the population. This is if you exaggerate to insanity. They say that “it is not necessary to compare, the analogy is not appropriate,” and I think it is very appropriate. It should be in people in the public service, to have a state sense. I am not a blind apologist for the current Russian reality. I don't like a lot either. Starting from corruption and ending with many others. But you start to think: today's Russia is better than what caliphaters want to build.

Are you personally threatened?

Yes, constantly. Not every day, of course, but often. At first it was very unpleasant. They send threats on social networks, via e-mail, and from fake accounts or specially instituted for these threats. They write messages either personally and straightforwardly (“Your corpse will soon swim in Lake Kaban”), or indirectly, using religious rhetoric (“Allah will punish you!” Or “Allah kills the infidels!”). Sometimes they call by phone and the number is not reflected.

Attempts were?

Samih attempted yet. The only case is when a Wahhabi attacked me during a rally. 1 April 2011 was a rally organized by Wahhabis, I came to take pictures, watch. They recognized me there in the face, surrounded me and tried to attack, one was able to spit in the face, started yelling that he was a hero after that, spat once at “the main fighter with Wahhabis”. There, by the way, the police approached and the situation escalated. They surrounded me, they could have lynched, but the police intervened, took this camel aside, and I was asked to leave the rally, and it would be dangerous to remain. We understand ourselves: "My militia protects me." By the way, this camel publishes a newspaper in Elabuga, he even wanted to get a job at the press service of Kazan Federal University.

Do you have the image of such a fighter against the Wahhabis?

Yes, but not because I want it myself. So it goes. Believe me, when they can bang you, you begin to prepare for everything. We also talked about this topic with the late Valliula Yakupov. He, too, was threatened by the mufti too. They wrote to him, but he did not pay attention to it. We even joked, we have a black such humor appeared on this basis. We said, “Well, you understand, Valliula-hazrat, that we are playing with fire.” He reasoned like this: "For all the will of Allah, for all the will of the Most High, it is he who decides everything." Here, too, the same thing, of course, precautions must be observed; one should not be such a stupid fatalist. Yes, really, go, once again look around. God cherishes.

The level of aggression on the part of the Wahhabis is enormous. Moreover, I do not exclude that if Wahhabis kill me, it will also be beneficial for some representatives of the regional government. It even turns out that now I have given you this interview, and you see that it does not make up a very good image of Tatarstan, and local officials do not like it. They want to continue to create the illusion of stability in Tatarstan, which is long gone.

And even friends tell me: “Rais, why do you need this? The Wahhabis banged you. Leave you alone from them, let them alone, and you alone. Live in peace. ” I answer them: “Listen, don't you understand that in the end they will force you to obey. While they are weak, they can mimic, but when they are strong, they will no longer stand on ceremony with you. You will either submit or leave. ” You will see when they kill me, they will still be more frightened. Of course, there will be some of my ill-wishers popping that, they say, Suleymanov himself is to blame. However, the majority will get scared. Just because no one else will raise the problem of the threat that has long been hanging over the Muslims of Tatarstan and the whole of Tatarstan as a whole.

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  1. akjn4
    akjn4 29 November 2012 08: 09
    -9
    Everything is debatable. One thing is obvious, according to the principle of financing Tatarstan - this is the same Caucasus. Money is flowing there from Moscow. Not the first decade.
    1. Fox
      Fox 29 November 2012 08: 49
      +1
      Quote: akjn4
      Everything is debatable. One thing is obvious, according to the principle of financing Tatarstan - this is the same Caucasus. Money is flowing there from Moscow

      Tatarstan itself earns money, it’s another matter that Moscow does not fall into it. Tatarstan has a strong industry, good roads and many programs for the population. I have many friends who have left there, conditions for living and work have been CREATED there. Shaimiev is well done, but a half-fellow artyakov was ruining Samara Region as he could, and now the Chechens are immeasurably at all posts. by the way the news on Cossack patrols in Moscow http://pandoraopen.ru/2012-11-28/kavkazcy-vsled-za-kazakami-tozhe-zhelayut-patru
      lirovat-moskvu /
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 29 November 2012 09: 12
        +4
        Quote: Fox
        . In Tataria, strong industry has good roads and many population programs.


        The site "Voice of Islam

        Idris (1225) 19.08.2012/15/06 at 26612:26599 # XNUMX answer to # XNUMX
        the Tatars have "claims" to the Russians, in general, there is no .... after all, it was not the Russians who attacked Kazan and occupied the Caucasus ... this was done by their rulers .... the Ruriks and the German-Romanovs .... and now another nationality..well which all the gas and oil of Russia (and not only) belongs to .... from which we buy this gas for 4 rubles. per cube ........... and the Russians ... they are poking around in the ground ... they plow at the factory ... well they drink vodka, but they vote for stability ...


        Said (-2) 11.08.2012/19/25 at 26185:XNUMX # XNUMX

        "Russians, who are much lower in development, culture, living standards, in trade, in agriculture, in education, in religion, became the masters of the inhabitants of the Kazan Khanate
        1. rate
          rate 29 November 2012 10: 01
          +4
          . "strong industry in Tatarstan, good roads"
          One more dill. And who built this strong industry for them? Who! Are the Tatars themselves so smart? Or maybe all the peoples of the USSR? And then Potanin, we rebuilt all of Norilsk, Deripaska all aluminum, etc. They want to go along such a path after the Ukrainians and the rest of the independents? I think so: the smart learns from the mistakes of others. This is a test for nations and states. Test for stupidity and arrogance
      2. akjn4
        akjn4 29 November 2012 12: 42
        0
        And at whose expense in Tatarstan
        Quote: Fox
        strong industry good roads and many population programs
        ?
        At the expense of other regions in which there are no national minorities!
        I don’t know now, but in the 90s Tatars money in their mouths and in .... they poked, against the background of general poverty, including more than industrially developed regions. Apparently, thanks they say they are not going to.
        1. Funker1981
          Funker1981 29 November 2012 16: 39
          -1
          Quote: akjn4
          in the 90th Tatars money in the mouth and in .... popped

          Oh ... it's good that I'm not a Tatar, although I live in Kazan. I really would not want me to
          in the mouth and in .... popped
          ... Do you envy them ?, also want you to "put money in your mouth and in .... poke"?
      3. NKVD
        NKVD 29 November 2012 13: 57
        0
        Quote: Fox
        in Tatarstan strong industry good roads

        They don’t have a damn thing !!! As I said earlier, look at the map of Russia. Tatarstan is an enclave in the center of the country. It has no external state borders or sea or land borders ... Do you want to secede? Please, We will block the external border (we have every right), and before that we take out the entire so-called industry because all this was created by Russia not to be given to them ... In a year, or even less, Tataria will die!
    2. Machingver
      Machingver 29 November 2012 11: 21
      -7
      Tatarstan is de facto independent - forgot?
      1. in reserve
        in reserve 29 November 2012 15: 28
        +1
        So they get money there and get knocked down so that they don’t remember independence, and from this they become even more impudent.
      2. strannik595
        strannik595 29 November 2012 15: 36
        +3
        reason soberly, like adult boys are already all ............ have gathered to go on a campaign in Kazan ........ overseas are just waiting for this, it will be a real, unhappy catastrophe for Russia. ........... Russia will no longer be. Russians and Tatars are the two largest, state-forming ethnic groups, it’s like taking two hands and starting to strangle a person, the owner of these hands, by the throat ......... we will only survive together, it’s not for nothing that a monument stands in place of the old mosque of Kazan Russian and Tatar, so please weigh your every word on this issue ........ Tatars are excellent people and fighters and Russia has shed a lot of blood
      3. 755962
        755962 29 November 2012 15: 42
        0
        And it reacts like the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB to the fact that are combatants on the territory of a foreign state located on the territory of Russia?

        Does not react

        Sorry .. How do you order to understand this ???? They knew, they know and .... they are silent ??? In other words, COVER?! Bullshit. Sorry for the harshness .. It does not fit in my head.
  2. YARY
    YARY 29 November 2012 08: 09
    +8
    Need Stalin.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 November 2012 08: 41
      +9
      Quote: Ardent

      Need Stalin.

      And Grozny needs to be raised; he has experience in speaking with Kazan.
      1. MilaPhone
        MilaPhone 29 November 2012 08: 43
        +5
        Quote: Ardent
        Need Stalin.

        Well, why is it so cruel right away! We are not beasts of any kind.
        Enough and Dmitry Ivanovich Donskoy.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 29 November 2012 09: 01
      +8
      Rais Suleymanov among the Wahhabis is considered a traitor to the Tatar people.

      SpamSpamov (151) 13.08.2012/01/32 at 26272:XNUMX # XNUMX
      Rais Suleimanov (aka Islam Batu) is definitely a filthy scum, who not only betrayed his people, he is fighting against Islam. May Allah curse him if He pleases. He is vile in that he really is a TRAITOR! He is like the jackal from Mowgli. After pouring water on Islam and Muslims, he earns only useless "pluses" in front of their masters, and "minuses" in front of our Lord of the worlds!
      1. YARY
        YARY 29 November 2012 09: 20
        -1
        What right now was Vadim?
        1. Igor
          Igor 29 November 2012 09: 27
          +5
          Most likely these are comments from the Glos Islam site.
        2. alexng
          alexng 29 November 2012 09: 59
          +5
          Quote: Ardent
          What right now was Vadim?


          - No, men, Vera does not allow me to drink ...
          - What, a Muslim, or what?
          “His name is his wife.” 95 kg Rail Layer.
        3. Vadivak
          Vadivak 29 November 2012 10: 05
          +3
          Quote: Ardent
          What right now was Vadim?


          This is from the site of the Voice of Islam reviews of Rais. Here Igor immediately guessed
          1. urzul
            urzul 29 November 2012 10: 59
            +1
            But Vadim is still on the site Voice of Islam of all 1 144, and as I understand it, he is especially radical. I myself communicate with the Tatars every day. I would not say that what they write on this site is the general mood. Yes, and attendance at 4000 he has.
            1. ole
              ole 29 November 2012 12: 03
              -1
              Urzul. I am writing again in 2009, went on business to the canoe and to Kazan to my relatives. The mood of the people is about 30 percent and akin to and with partners Russia is another state.
              1. urzul
                urzul 29 November 2012 12: 36
                +1
                Last time was 3 weeks ago, I didn’t notice something
              2. sergo0000
                sergo0000 29 November 2012 15: 28
                +1
                ole,
                Interesting! The poll was conducted by yourself or which of the liberal-anal human rights activists helped? winked
              3. Funker1981
                Funker1981 29 November 2012 16: 47
                +1
                I live in Kazan, I don’t notice something that the majority. We celebrate holidays with the Tatars at the same table.
                But the weird kind of bearded people is getting bigger sad
      2. rate
        rate 29 November 2012 10: 11
        +3
        Wahhabis are sectarians. Well, it’s as if the Baptists came here and began to swing the rights to our patriarch that we have the most correct faith. Well + terror of the Orthodox. Apparently, Islam is very weak ideologically. Cannot resist such peppers. Therefore, porridge in people’s heads: they don’t distinguish the top with the bottom.
        Such an analogy.
      3. Cadets
        Cadets 29 November 2012 10: 39
        +5
        Vadivak,
        These are the people whose activities to strengthen traditional Islam arouse hatred among Wahhabis and must be fully supported by the state and protected!
      4. Leisure
        Leisure 29 November 2012 13: 26
        0
        What kind of wildness is caveman?
  3. volcano
    volcano 29 November 2012 08: 47
    +2
    Ivan Vasilievich ... Did you take Shpak's apartment?

    Kazan took, Astrakhan took .... Shpak did not take the apartment ....

    I would have remembered this comedy at the place of Kazan, in general, the TRUTH is present there.

    It will be necessary ..... take it again .... Anything can be said about the Caucasus, but about some OTHER STATE on the shores of the HOLY VOLGA ...... This is too much .....
    And Kazan will never see independence .......
    1. alexng
      alexng 29 November 2012 09: 44
      -2
      In my opinion, the article is the usual dregs of corrupt media. The goal is to sow confusion in the heads of people and set against each other.
      1. Averias
        Averias 29 November 2012 10: 40
        0
        I agree with you, we have in the media either nothing or this kind of article. The article is deep and competent, no doubt. But, there remains a feeling of some kind of understatement, everything is somehow muddy, vague, all on assumptions. Yes, and one direction, clearly show that Islam (Wahhabis and others) are enemies. It’s like in the USA people are being fooled by terrorists with Bin Laden at the head. so do we have radical Islam. There is a problem, it is a fact, but it is not necessary to present it like this one-sidedly. It’s not just how it all appeared, that means in the highest echelons of power someone needs this, someone covers it all. After all, the hedgehog is understandable that without a powerful cover from above, they could not have done anything.
        1. alexng
          alexng 29 November 2012 11: 19
          0
          Well, the higher echelons hardly need this, most likely in otherworldly foreign echelons.
      2. Brother Sarych
        Brother Sarych 29 November 2012 10: 48
        +7
        This is not muddy, this is extremely serious!
        1. Averias
          Averias 29 November 2012 11: 02
          +1
          Yes, I understand that this is serious, the idea of ​​a world Caliphate as a "Ghost of Communism" hangs over the world. But you must agree that this is not only a bunch of renegades with delusional ideas, it primarily comes with the connivance of the authorities. Option two - or the authorities keep it under tacit control and do not allow these ideas to cross certain boundaries (it’s easier, it’s like there is a fermentation of minds, but it doesn’t move beyond a certain barrier) and option two is the conscious connivance and protectorate of someone from the upper echelons authorities. As I understand it, our London "friends" Berezovsky and others are actively putting their hand to this.
        2. sergo0000
          sergo0000 29 November 2012 11: 26
          +9
          Brother Sarych,
          I agree with you, this is very serious.
          The position of power is surprising. Putin himself, from the security forces, could secretly organize a group to shoot the most radical leaders. Or is it waiting for the national squads from those who asked Chechnya to quietly begin to cut out these dzhigits and Arab puppets for whom the treatment for Wahhabism is only one - cut off ears or a bullet in the back of the head like a mad dog! The people of Tatarstan are very friendly and hardworking, so this infection cannot be allowed to spread. This is probably the very case when the end justifies the means (I mean the creation of such groups to destroy Wahhabi leaders without trial)
          I repent. Six months ago, I had a different opinion.
          1. strannik595
            strannik595 29 November 2012 15: 33
            0
            reason soberly, like adult boys are already all ............ have gathered to go on a campaign in Kazan ........ overseas are just waiting for this, it will be a real, unhappy catastrophe for Russia. ........... Russia will no longer be. Russians and Tatars are the two largest, state-forming ethnic groups, it’s like taking two hands and starting to strangle a person, the owner of these hands, by the throat ......... we will only survive together, it’s not for nothing that a monument stands in place of the old mosque of Kazan Russian and Tatar, so please weigh your every word on this issue ........ Tatars are excellent people and fighters and Russia has shed a lot of blood
  4. valokordin
    valokordin 29 November 2012 09: 02
    +3
    Volcano do not kill hope and do not talk about independence, but I.V. Stalin is urgently needed in this situation. Political iron will is needed. Syrians catch and send Bashir to court. Tatars who fought there too send Let them figure out who cut the Syrian soldiers, who blew up hospitals and mosques. Assad will figure it out. There is nothing to drool. And Kazan is a beautiful city, and Shaimiev did not let the three-fingered ku destroy the republic.
    1. Igor
      Igor 29 November 2012 09: 34
      0
      Quote: valokordin
      and Shaimiev did not let the three-fingered ku destroy the republic.


      Nothing Putin is actively contributing to this collapse. I don’t even know who the first to bang Suleiman, those in power because they spoil the impression of stability or Wahhabis in law.
    2. volcano
      volcano 29 November 2012 10: 17
      +1
      Quote: valokordin

      Volcano do not kill hope and do not speak of independence


      Colleague, what hope am I killing? I honestly do not understand?

      Hope for a single state with the Tatars? so I am not against it at all, but it should not be one on paper, but in the heads of the people who inhabit it.
      Just if you fantasize about this topic, then I CAN ACCEPT that sooner or later, under some circumstances, I will let go of the CAUCASUS (I don’t give my assessment of this action), BUT TATARSTAN WILL NEVER BE RELEASED TO WAVELESS .... It comes to that that we will fill him with blood both ours and Tatar (again, I absolutely do not want this) but we will not let go.
      And if the Caucasian separatists can even speculate and hope that under certain circumstances the Caucasus can secede from the Russian Federation, then the Tatar separatists should clearly understand that Kazan will be razed to the ground, BUT IT WILL NEVER LEAVE THE COMPOSITION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION under any circumstances. ... and why then these attempts?
      1. Brother Sarych
        Brother Sarych 29 November 2012 10: 53
        +1
        If Russia releases the Caucasus, then one should forget about Tatarstan, and Bashkiria, and Siberia ...
        Who will level Kazan with the earth? Turn on the upper process for at least a second ...
        1. urzul
          urzul 29 November 2012 11: 02
          +5
          But I'm wondering how you imagine the "sovereign state of Kazan" that has no borders with anyone except Russia. Well, they may be enough for a couple of years, but then?
        2. volcano
          volcano 29 November 2012 14: 18
          0
          Quote: Brother Sarich
          Turn on the upper process for at least a second.


          Do you seem to think only lower?

          And nobody will ask.
          Russia will never allow a Muslim state inside (like an enclave) to stand on the country's main river artery.
          That you include your head .... And here all means will be applied, from the eviction of the Tatars somewhere beyond Magadan and ending with the armed suppression of the rebellion ....

          And as for the Caucasus, I repeat to you once again that it is possible to allow this (the keyword ADMIT)
  5. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 29 November 2012 09: 02
    +6
    All laid out on the shelves. Good analytical article.
  6. rennim
    rennim 29 November 2012 09: 07
    +6
    Liberalism towards the republics began under Gorbachev ... Gentlemen from the Kremlin, having learned nothing, go the same way. If this does not stop, the results will not keep you waiting ... Then the simplest scenario will be the collapse of the Russian Federation. Worse if a war starts ... It feels like someone beyond their nose sees nothing ... or does not want to see.
  7. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 29 November 2012 09: 44
    +6
    Is this Rais too young for a leader of this level? How did you end up in this post? Just wondering hi Of course, anything happens, the guy argues very sensibly and competently, where has he gained experience?
    It is strange that Wahhabism is not officially banned throughout the Russian Federation. Real terms must be given for participation.


    282.2 Article. Organization of extremist organization

    1. Organization of the activities of a public or religious association or other organization in respect of which the court has adopted a final decision on the liquidation or prohibition of activities in connection with the implementation of extremist activities, -
    shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of up to two hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the convict's salary or other income for a period of up to eighteen months, or by arrest for a term of up to four months, or imprisonment for a term of up to two years with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a period of up to ten years or without it and with a restriction of freedom for a period of up to two years or without it.
    2. Participation in the activities of a public or religious association or other organization in respect of which the court has adopted a final decision on the liquidation or prohibition of activities in connection with the implementation of extremist activities, shall -
    shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of up to two hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the convict's salary or other income for a period of up to eighteen months, or by arrest for a term of up to four months, or imprisonment for a term of up to two years with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to five years or without it.
    Note. A person who voluntarily ceases to participate in the activities of a public or religious association or other organization in respect of which the court has taken a final decision on the liquidation or prohibition of activities in connection with extremist activities is exempted from criminal liability, unless its actions contain a different composition crime.
    http://www.ukru.ru/code/10/282.2/index.htm

    Very softly, we punish such things ...
  8. Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 29 November 2012 09: 59
    +4
    They thoughtlessly removed the brake pads and the heavy composition of Wahhabism rolled downhill gaining speed. While on the rails. And pick up speed and fly off the rail. The consequences of the disaster are not predictable.
    "And what do we have to watch?" The flight of the Slavs from the Muslim regions and the massive invasion of the Muslims into the Slavs. And not just an invasion, but under the Islamic green banners and the dictates of their own customs and rituals, from the problems of bareheaded Muslim girls in schools to massive Muslim holidays with traffic blocking on the floor of Moscow. Soon they will start electing to the Duma not on political but on religious grounds. Besides, it is necessary to buy a Bible in the church and it is not cheap. And the Koran is handed out free of charge in Russian. There is something to think about.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta 29 November 2012 11: 51
      -3
      Slavs do not give birth, Muslims give birth. Who prevents the Russians from giving birth and is born ??? That's just inappropriately about salaries and all kinds of housing and communal services, they are already sick of the same thing.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 November 2012 14: 34
        +3
        Quote: djon3volta
        who interferes with Russian giving birth and multiplying ??? that's just inappropriately about salaries and all kinds of housing and communal services, they are already sick of the same thing.

        How many children do you have?
  9. nokki
    nokki 29 November 2012 10: 30
    +5
    . And at a rally from the rostrum they shouted about the need to overthrow secular power and build a caliphate. Well, have any of these protesters really been punished? The answer is no.

    The level of aggression from the Wahhabis is huge. Moreover, I do not exclude the possibility that if Wahhabis kill me, it will be beneficial to some representatives of the regional authorities.

    I think that the central government must cruelly suppress religious extremism of any color! Until the introduction of direct presidential rule in the subjects of the federation, as well as a state of emergency. Calls for separatism should be punished by life imprisonment!
  10. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 29 November 2012 10: 45
    0
    Before our eyes we lost the situation out of control! And there is no real opportunity to change the situation in the current conditions ...
  11. nnnnnn
    nnnnnn 29 November 2012 11: 19
    +2
    a worked-out scenario of the collapse in Yugoslavia, etc. started working in Russia, listen a little more to your Natsiks who are shouting like "stop feeding the Caucasus" let go of the Caucasus, then it will kick-ass get specific principalities ...
  12. djon3volta
    djon3volta 29 November 2012 11: 44
    0
    In 1992, Yeltsin wanted to send troops into Kazan and make a march, to arrange a war like Chechnya, a war with the use of heavy equipment in the center of Russia, it wasn’t for the Caucasus to persuade you ..
    I myself have generally lived in Tatarstan all my life, and I know life from the inside. All these local Wahabids sit in mosques only in Kazan, they are not found anywhere else. Russians and Tatars live peacefully in villages and other cities, and there has never been any enmity.
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 29 November 2012 12: 02
      +9
      djon3volta,
      What is true is true, there is no enmity! He himself was in Kazan in the summer. Tatar wife.
      But you must admit, everything starts small.
      And in Dagestan, up to 80% of Russians used to live! Now how much?! 2-3% no more.
      1. Lakkuchu
        Lakkuchu 29 November 2012 19: 41
        0
        Up to 80% of Russians have never lived in Dagestan, even close to this figure; you have incorrect information. But the slow outflow of the Russian population does occur and this process is primarily associated with the difficult socio-economic situation in the republic, unemployment, those events that took place in the 90s (war in Chechnya, etc.). Not only Russians, but also indigenous Dagestanis, were leaving and leaving for the same reasons.
  13. Locksmith
    Locksmith 29 November 2012 12: 33
    +2
    A very interesting situation, if you think logically; God is the same for everyone, he has many different children, speaking different languages, with different levels of development and traditions - who is wrong here ??! Who allowed them to kill other believers of ONE God ??! Or maybe every nation has its own God? They are going to go back to paganism. It is necessary to treat those who have perverted the whole essence of the Faith. It is correctly written by Nosovsky and Fomenko: “The younger the religion, the older and more significant it tries to look.” In essence, it perverts the worldview of people in the direction necessary for itself, without bringing anything useful to people, but noticeably washing their brains.
    I myself am an atheist, but I also have faith in the triumph of the mind and culture of people, that all people are brothers of origin, it does not matter from a single bacterium or cosmic panspermia.
    1. Leisure
      Leisure 29 November 2012 13: 39
      +2
      In the end, our secular state is spelled out in the basic law.
      Everyone who is trying to change the secular system in the state, into shackles.
  14. sapulid
    sapulid 29 November 2012 12: 37
    0
    After the events of the Caucasus, the authorities, it seems to me, are in control of the situation.

    It’s too early to talk about the beginning of any religious confrontation. Fighting against Wahhabi preachers by force means making them martyrs. It is better to create religious centers in your country and create conditions for the impossibility of preaching the extremist movements of any religions.
    It all comes down to corruption. Having the money "sponsors", extremists feel at ease. Damn, we need urgent and radical measures to combat corruption. The question is about the survival of the state.
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 29 November 2012 12: 57
      +2
      It is too late to talk about the beginning of this confrontation, since it is getting stronger every day, and not only in Russia, but throughout the world. Each new concession of "tolerasts" to radical Islamism generates a chain reaction of new impudent demands on its part. And it would be okay only requirements, but then I am already acting impudently. And while hurray the patriots of all countries are fighting foaming at the mouth against the "Zionist fascism" invented by them and defending the bandits of the Hamazites and the like with the same foam, a much more dangerous cancer is maturing at their side, which in many countries has already matured and has become inoperable. Russia is, alas, no exception in this list of cancer patients, as are Australia, France and many other countries.
  15. baltika-18
    baltika-18 29 November 2012 13: 35
    +6
    Suleimanov is right. He is a normal, adequate person. I consider a decent level of threat. Those who are now beyond the influence of Wahhabism in 40, will be hardened by the Soviet Union, but the youth will be able to powder their brains without any problems. Here we need to work hard and fast. snotty power and on my mind.
  16. JonnyT
    JonnyT 29 November 2012 14: 05
    0
    Pump up hysteria!
  17. VadimSt
    VadimSt 29 November 2012 14: 29
    0
    We, then Stalin, then Ivan the Terrible. Getting used to pre-election slogans, we ourselves, involuntarily, begin to generate only slogans. No slogans and projects of revival will lead to a radical change in the field of interethnic, legal, economic and social issues. However, as well as infusion into the economy of individual regions. What, from the multibillion-dollar "injections" into Chechnya, has it become comfortable, safe, and equal rights for Russian citizens who are not Chechens by nationality? And this despite the fact that most of Russia, not industrial centers with billions of dollars, and in fact lies in ruins - sometimes it is a shame to watch the official news from the Russian "hinterland".
    Russia needs a new Constitution, which would abolish all legal acts that decentralized federal power and led to a "parade of sovereignties and Presidents according to Yeltsin," which made it possible to legislate the exclusive "value of indigenous peoples and nations" on a territorial and national basis in the regions.
    Today, "everyone cares" about small peoples and nationalities, forgetting that all these "concerns", including at the legislative level, apply only to territories that are not national entities. A crime against a representative of a "small people" in a Russian city causes an "explosion" of the media and the entire "diaspora", and the fact that Russians, according to a number of "local constitutions", are actually second-class citizens, we somehow do not notice. It makes no sense to consider the representation of Russians in state, judicial and executive structures, these very national entities - the result is known, even with only 25% of the "indigenous" population of the total number of citizens. This is how double standards are manifested for the citizens of a multinational country, which, as a result, lead to their denominator - we do not relate to each other, as it was, a couple of decades ago.

    Such as Rais Sulejmanov are precisely the honor and pride of all nations. That's just to real power, such people will never be allowed.
  18. taseka
    taseka 29 November 2012 14: 45
    +3
    My heart began to whine, although we see it real - the threat comes from "high-ranking officials", it clearly smacks of treason!
    "Do you have information on the Moscow region?"

    The situation is the most negative way. The process of ghetto formation is underway, a vivid example is Prospect Mira in Moscow. This can be seen even by the fact that the police do not control the situation there and is afraid to go there. We see the police, the riot police, from there they are being squeezed out, and I am afraid that the authorities can put up with it. It will turn out as in some cities of Western Europe, when in some quarters of Paris, Berlin, Copenhagen, London, the police are afraid to stop by even in the afternoon.
    - Here you live !!! A shame!!!
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 29 November 2012 15: 54
      +1
      taseka,
      Clear stump, survived!
      After all, those in power do not walk on Peace Avenue.
      And of cars in Moscow, the situation is not so scary! winked
      From the bottom of my heart, I wish some people's choice or human rights activist face to face the problem of religious tolerance. Himself or family members. Can then catch on.
      Although in Moscow itself it is too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have disappeared!
  19. in reserve
    in reserve 29 November 2012 15: 46
    +2
    I liked the article, I read it in one breath, the situation in Tatarstan is very intelligibly described. Upset information with the militants about which everyone knows but do nothing, although we have an article for mercenaries.
    I would like to wish success to Rais Suleimanov in the fight against Wahhabism "GOD TO HELP".
  20. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 29 November 2012 16: 21
    0
    I have never talked with the Tatars from Tatarstan, but judging by those I know personally, in my homeland in Siberia, I can say for sure that they will not and will not be able to live under Sharia. smile
  21. Captain45
    Captain45 29 November 2012 18: 28
    +2
    As they say for what I bought, for that I sell. Several Tatars work with me, two are from Kazan, everyone is at home on vacation. So I asked them for the situation and everyone says that religion has nothing to do with it, but just the new elite is trying to take the loot from the Shaimiev clan and anything is used for this matter. That simple hard workers say, I also told you.
  22. Comrade1945
    Comrade1945 29 November 2012 19: 50
    0
    Mouth Front, friends.
    At first I wanted to write a hefty sensual commentary, which, in my opinion, would reflect all those feelings that flare up inside me whenever I hear ...



    You know, one of the ambiguous German writer Hans Jost in one of the plays has the following lines:
    - When I hear the word "culture" I release my Browning from the safety catch.
    We will not go into details of the roots of these lines, however strange they may sound. (By the way, the speech in the play is about post-war Germany, where there was no place for art yet, but this is not about that now)

    So that's it. Strongly paraphrasing ... When I hear about some kind of "unfree Tatars" my hands literally shake with anger and reach for any razor-cutting weapon in the absence of a small (separate topic).
    These star-striped stripes, as you see, categorically do not want to move away from the wonderful concept-performance in two actions:
    "where it is thin, there it is torn"
    light intermission and sandwiches, and immediately after
    "divide and conquer"
    And I, comrades, would certainly pat the genius of overseas "political strategists" while standing, if all this damn porridge didn’t happen here in my country.
    If we do not want to completely tear out everything that remains of the great empire, we must take action! Brutal measures. It’s not for me to decide which, but it’s a pity, because ...
    And you don't need to call me a Chekist and poke your liberal sausage fingers at me, because if we are talking about the security of the country and its territorial integrity, then there are tens, and hundreds, and thousands of "human" (exactly in quotation marks, since these creatures I I don't count for people) lives - the price is absolutely commensurate.
    I hope they understood me exactly the way I wanted to be understood.
    Thank you for the attention. Good luck to all.
  23. ver_
    ver_ 21 October 2017 10: 48
    0
    Quote: Fox
    Quote: akjn4
    Everything is debatable. One thing is obvious, according to the principle of financing Tatarstan - this is the same Caucasus. Money is flowing there from Moscow

    Tatarstan itself earns money, it’s another matter that Moscow does not fall into it. Tatarstan has a strong industry, good roads and many programs for the population. I have many friends who have left there, conditions for living and work have been CREATED. as he could, and now the Chechens are immeasurably at all posts. By the way, news on Cossack patrols in Moscow http://pandoraopen.ru/2012-11-28/kavkazcy-vsled-z
    a-kazakami-tozhe-zhelayut-patru
    lirovat-moskvu /

    ... and who created this very industry? Under Brezhnev, they did it - they built a complex of factories .. The whole Union built .. don’t do good - you won’t get evil .. Any flirting with nationalists - they don’t smell like perfume, but even a different product .. They created jobs and eliminated unemployment in that region. ., created a hearth. Ulyanov = Blank specially laid mines in the form of a national question ...
  24. Shadow041
    Shadow041 25 October 2020 22: 27
    +2
    It's time to deport all these religious fanatics from the Russian Federation, especially since most of them are illegitimate, like the terrorist Said Buryatsky and they have no right to teach others to live righteously, since they themselves do not know how