Where was the "evolution" in the Soviet research institutes and design bureaus of the peripheral zone

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Where was the "evolution" in the Soviet research institutes and design bureaus of the peripheral zone

One of the moments that evoke in me a deep sense of respect and gratitude for the Soviet period was the Soviet education system.

Children even on the periphery were given a very decent and versatile education for the average person.



If someone considered this insufficient for themselves at that stage, then it was possible to offer additional options such as ZFTSH (correspondence school of physics and technology) at the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MIPT). And when in one of the tasks in this school the task was set to calculate the required power of the engine of a small helicopter, and in the other, the calculation of the inductance on a toroidal core was given (by the way, which I still use), I realized that theoretical knowledge gives certainty in my thoughts and dreams.

My further studies took place at the Bauman School.

Two things that characterize the mechanics of the functioning of this university are usually not visible behind the praises of laudatory words about this school.

Entering Baumanka in the late 70s was not extremely difficult, but further studies were tough, and in the process of studying in the group where I studied, every third student was expelled.

Such rigidity aimed to leave only those who were able to reach the level of real assimilation of a complex of theoretical and technical knowledge for subsequent practical application and further, perhaps in the future, will be able to rise significantly above this starting point.

The atmosphere while studying at Baumanka was very specific, it was somewhat reminiscent of a fight club. This was supported by many, we even had officers among the teachers at the military department, some had experience of real battles in Vietnam and Sinai.

Back in 1979, I happened to be the captain of the student team in the strength of materials. We were additionally specially trained for about a month and a half, and then they said:

“Well, I hope you understand how the meeting of the Baumanka team with the teams of other universities always ended ... I hope you won’t let us down ...”

And that year, our team practically “rolled out” the rest of Moscow and the Moscow region.
The second feature of Baumanka is that it is not just an educational university, but also a multidisciplinary center, where the initial study of many projects was carried out.

And by senior year, much of what was called teaching materials was part of real projects or research.

However, when I was assigned to my first job at the Fakel Design Bureau in 1983, there was a feeling of shock and misunderstanding how everything here is tied to what we were taught. A couple of my buddies arrived a bit later for distribution, and it was amusing to see that same question mark in their eyes.

As a senior comrade (Nikolai Kovalenko) who has already worked for a certain number of years told us:

«Here you will not work as designers, here you will be used in fact as technical draftsmen, and you will be engaged not in designing, but in drawing.»

What did this mean practically?

This is how accomplished designer Nikolai (MAI graduate, 30 years old) developed drawings of the fuel part of the 17B13 engine block. This block was a small frame, to which a large high-pressure ball-cylinder with xenon, necessary for the operation of the plasma-ion engine, was pulled by clamps. There was something else from the pneumatic switching equipment.

When all this was done, assembled and placed on a vibration stand, the balloon began to turn in the clamps. On this occasion, a meeting is being held at the very top, where the task is given to tighten the clamps with high quality. But the problem does not go away, and at the next meeting an instruction is given to use wrenches with a tightening ratchet when assembling. Further, since the problem does not go away again, an instruction is given to get and use wrenches with a dial indicator of the torque.

The next squeak was a sticker and the use of strain gauges. Around this moment, a suggestion appears that the frequency run on the shaker should be done quickly and not get stuck on ... a mechanical resonance point. That is, the mass of the balloon and the elasticity of the clamps create a classic oscillatory system with a pronounced resonance.

Actually, the designer differs from the draftsman in that he must see the physics of phenomena in the design being developed and lead the project away from problems.

…However, the presence of an intricate vibrodrome, its overcoming, constant communication with cosmic leaders, demonstrating to them that you are on an equal footing with them in terms of the activity of tamping down problems, can serve as the basis for successful career growth.

When I demonstrated the assembly drawings of my first project of the 17B14 engine block at a meeting with the management of the OKB Fakel, the drawings did not raise any questions, and when my friend prepared and presented drawings of the pneumatic circuit for powering the 17B14 engine with xenon at a similar meeting, a hubbub began there.

“Can you imagine, they don’t know the designations on the pneumatic diagrams at all ... And also, in my opinion, they are fools ...”

This, of course, was a bold statement of yesterday's student (and in the present - Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, director of the Kislovodsk mountain astronomical station).

So what are these design bureaus and research institutes of the peripheral zone?


In one such research institute - the Research Institute of Physical Measurements (measuring sensors for space applications) - I worked or was closely associated with it from 1985 to 2012. On the example of this scientific research institute, one can see how it functioned and how the evolution of development took place there. This is very educational.

NII FI appeared in the same way as OKB "Fakel" somewhere in the early 60s. However, from the very beginning they did not have to look for their place under the sun: they emerged as a branch of the Research Institute of Measuring Technology. This research institute in Podlipki was overloaded with measurement topics and needed someone to whom they could transfer part of their projects for support. Very timely, at the same time, the first graduates of the newly created Penza Polytechnic University are taking place. The task of escorting did not require extreme intellectual abilities, and local graduates were quite suitable for this. The same ones immediately realized all the charm of what a cool cosmic glade they got into, and they didn’t just get there, but they got there first and with a whole shobla.

Somewhere by 1967, a new leadership, a new young director, is appointed from this call, and in 1968 a new young team pushes smart people out of its composition - its potential competitors. This was done very humanely, they were offered to relocate to the local polytechnic, to deal with the same topics, a department was made for this, contracts were concluded.

In the mid-80s, I heard about the head of the laboratory where I worked at that time:

“…Yes, your boss is very talented, he created a technical direction here with the highest technical parameters, but… he is intelligent, he is not a member of any local clan group. He is a stranger here. They won’t let him in here above the head of the laboratory ... "

On the other hand, since the end of the 60s, the knowledge has spread among ordinary people in Penza that there is an institute in the city center where the salary has a cosmic multiplying factor, but the work there is difficult to say what they do there, and whether they do they are there at all, but you have to walk in a white coat.

As far as I understand, the hierarchical structure of such IOM organizations was built according to some standard recommended scheme.

Thus, the head of our laboratory, perhaps the best real research institute specialist in electronics, constantly complained that he, as a leader, had to spend a significant part of his time participating in various meetings. And as the day began, the chief, perhaps his deputy and selected specialists, went to confer with the head of the department and his local deputies. Further, some part of this meeting went to confer with the head of the department (complex) and there they already rubbed the problems. But that was not all. The next level was the deputy director for scientific and design work. If there were graters with production, then questions could be submitted to a meeting with the director or chief engineer.

If the itch to confer still has not cooled down, there was always the opportunity to board the Sura branded train, go to Moscow and confer there already.

Since, with this style of work, the control pyramid looked somewhat overloaded, for the grassroots public there was still an additional loop of supervision and management when we went to sign report coupons on the work done and carried them to the special sector.

But… The monstrous pyramid of command and control… and 40% of the staff of the sensor development laboratories at NIIFI and some of the electronics developers were scammers (or prone to scammers).

My first electronics project was the Quartz theme, the development of the electronics for the cryogenic pressure sensor of a military heavy hydrogen laser (this is from our response to the Americans' Strategic Defense Initiative). I did my best, did much better than you might expect from a typical graduate in electronics, but the developers of the sensor in choosing the type relied on the strain gauge method, which operates in a temperature range of a maximum of 80 ... 120 degrees. No attempt has been made to add a thermistor to the sensor to compensate for the unusually wide temperature range.

This project failed miserably. I was chosen as a "whipping boy" and "scapegoat". The people demanded to drag me to the authorities ... And me? I don't mind…

In the process of testing on the stands, I built about 20 graphs that fully described the behavior and characterized the cause of the failure. And when I said that I would go with the schedules, they told me that they didn’t want to work with such a bastard anymore, but they wouldn’t go to the management either.

Later, I tried to show these charts to at least some of the management. But no one needed them.

When working in this style, the laboratory received 60% of the payment under the contract, demonstrated the initial result or its absence, and if successful, went to receive another 40%, followed by hemorrhoids of bureaucratic registration of the result of the work. The percentage of contracts where customers were hung noodles on the ears, followed by a guaranteed zero output, jumped sharply in the 90s and early 2000s.

Surprisingly, the “tops” and “bottoms” each lived their own unconnected lives.
And if each of us at our grassroots level could, to the best of our ability and desire, “butt” with the problems and challenges of the scale of the laboratory, then there was a ringing silence around the chronic problems of the scale of the research institute.

Thus, the majority of NIIFI developments are based on thin-film vacuum deposition technologies. These technologies and equipment were not created from scratch at NIIFI, but were borrowed from somewhere. Vacuum deposition was used in the production of sensors, thin-film microassemblies, glass-ceramic chip resistors. However, if we ask the NIIFI, for example, what parameters chip resistors have, then you will obviously be sent to the archive to read the original specifications for these same chip resistors. According to this specification, chip resistors have a temperature coefficient of ±75 ppm. At the same time, they have the right to look at you with big bulging eyes as a person who does not understand that any "sneeze" on space topics should be based on reading OSTs, GOSTs, TUs, STPs and other regulations.

In reality, the temperature coefficient of those resistors reached ±5 ppm and even ±000 ppm (8 percent per degree).

An even more “lethal” moment of local thin-film technologies was that the resulting resistances did not have temporal stability. If a tensometric resistive bridge was formed on the sensitive surface of the sensor, then the zero of such a sensor constantly drifted somewhere in time. This could create problems on the shop floor. Imagine, when the initial adjustment of the secondary electronics was done, a big break in work accidentally wedged in, and at the time the product was handed over for acceptance, everything went somewhere beyond the tolerances.

To solve a similar problem at the company where I work now, they would create an investigation team of specialists with cool powers.

Back in the 80s, I glanced at the process of vacuum deposition at NIIFI. From what was noticed, local experts "improved" the design of sputtering magnetrons. They threw out the “unnecessary elements” of the anode part, not suspecting that there is a physical law according to which the breakdown voltage decreases with increasing distance in a technical vacuum. As a result, where the Hall discharge was supposed to burn, an electro-erosion one clicked in this place. It was possible to talk about this at the research institute, but it was extremely useless.

In addition to the strange pyramid of management, there were some other nuances at NIIFI.

For example, when the Deputy Director for Procurement and Economic Affairs was mentioned, knowledgeable people mentioned him with emphasized aspiration. He was a very important person from the world of important people. It must be understood that positions with space capabilities in the field of supply in the Soviet era were not for ordinary people. Such positions should only be held by important people.

The chief technologist was also peculiar.

Many of the parts made at the NIIFI were in the form of a box or pan, carved from a massive piece of metal. For this problem, NIIFI received a compact foundry ... And it was immediately resold and disappeared. Obviously, it was a valuable resource.

Technologists at the turn of the 90s had the idea to develop their own microchips using CMOS technology. Under this business, a large batch of imported computers of the IBM PC XT, AT 286, AT 386 class, DEC VAX station mini-computers were purchased.

For that time, it was just incredible fantasy. And ... 40-60% of personal computers immediately disappeared somewhere.

That moment was remembered by the way the son (cooperator-tsekhovichok) of the chief technologist ran: “... And my share should be more! ..”

Purely historically, in space research institutes since the era of Korolev, in the structure of such organizations there has been specialized production, sharpened for the purpose of prototyping.
If you have an idea, it is good practice to test it first in some simplified mock-up form, perhaps in a quick way and several times. Only after there is a relatively complete understanding of what you can achieve, it is worth going to the main design cycle and connecting the main production ...

But this was in the era of Korolev, and in the 80s, the prototyping workshop (No. 30) at NIIFI was focused on sharpening pitching for summer cottages, spare parts for cars and was a lifesaver for important people.

Intelligent work filling


From the moment of its creation, NIIFI has been closely tailed by the Research Institute of Measuring Equipment. From there they received ideas, development of their first projects, consultations, methods of work. According to the model and likeness of NIIIT, technological equipment was ordered and used at NIIFI.

In the future, universities began to play the role of “crutches for the brain”.

Formally, their work could be called the performance of some research work (R&D), but functionally they can be divided into three broad categories.

The first group consisted of reports in which professors translated some abstruse scientific constructions into a specific applied case and chewed it in a simple, understandable language, specially adapted for the fact that the report would be on the desk of the middle-level boss, who, perhaps, would read it and instruct subordinates.

The second group of R&D consisted in the fact that mock-up developments were made at the university, which in the future could serve as a prototype for real developments.

Much of these layouts were mediocre. The best R&D for NIIFI was performed at LETI by two graduate students. Under the guidance of their professor, they designed and tested several prototype electronics for capacitive sensors. The originality of this project was that there were effects of compensating for dimensional tolerances, temperature dependence, non-linear capacitance behavior, cable length and parasitic capacitance between sensor and electronics.

The last type of R&D reports were calculation methods. I didn’t really see them specifically at NIIFI, but in other research institutes and design bureaus, where questions related to gas dynamics, thermodynamics, shaft dynamics, methods were the main value, without which the calculation group of the design department, like the entire design department, turned into nothing.

The use of external "brain crutches" sharply reduced the quality requirements of their own specialists. This was extremely convenient for the management, since it allowed them to ignore the natural dispersion of specialists in terms of education, potential, self-motivation and “profile” career advancement in such a way that in the future there would be no problems and conflict situations for the management personally.

Although, for the most part, the R&D of the NIIFI of that time can be spoken of as a large number of attempts, a huge amount of time spent, an appropriate amount of resources, and a modest end result, other examples can be given.

For example, one technologist analyzed several research projects, on his own initiative carried out the design work of his sensor, manufactured, tested and presented the development to the director. It was a complete analogue of Endevco products, which at that time was the "world trendsetter" in the field of semiconductor sensors for critical applications. The director twisted this sensor in his hands and said: “Yes, that’s good… But we won’t produce it because our workers don’t have due diligence in performing critical operations…”

The head of the laboratory where I worked was also a great enthusiast of initiative projects. When it was mentioned in a translated article in the journal "Electronics" that in the USSR there are developments of sensors with very high parameters, this was achieved through its electronics.

However, in the region of 2000, he spoke about the need for greater adequacy in the construction of work at the NIIFI, he was immediately kicked from the enterprise.

The development of enthusiasts played a specific role.

When the official search work from year to year ran into a kind of stupor, then, as it were, a very worthy result rolled up by itself, which could be filed with the report.

These reports aroused specific interest, and after a short time one could hear in the local polytechnic: “I proposed a solution in my dissertation…” or “I analyzed and came to the conclusion…”

natural course of things


Somewhere at the very beginning of the year, sensor development laboratories and sometimes separately electronics developers entered into development contracts. In a certain percentage, there were also agreements on thematic cards (from the ministry).

A network schedule was drawn up for each contract. It was such a big sheet, where the work was noted in the squares, the unit performing it, the deadlines for completion, the allocated resources. Since the entire actual negotiation process took place at a relatively grassroots level, the dominant logic of its participants was a clear, simple principle: “Nishtyaki, time, valuable resources - pull on yourself. Real work, responsibility for the results - push away from yourself.

Well, then there was, as it were, a straight line, resting on November-December. However, this line was sometimes very punning.

For example, in the network diagram for the DHS-024 sensor, where I was the main draft force, the date of delivery of the debugged built-in sensor software was April-May 2012, and the purchase of the necessary development tools and the start of debugging was June (actually, July) 2012.

But this was not the main humor.

A non-trivial question arises. Why does this line have to be straight?

When I worked at the Fakel Design Bureau, a large amount of internal regulatory documentation was issued there, in the preamble of which there was an obligatory indication that the document was created for a reason, but in full compliance with all the provisions of the “Bible for the creation of rocket and space technology” - Guiding Materials RK-75. Now this is already a rather forgotten document, but in these materials an official attempt was made to generalize the experience of the era of S.P. Korolev and outlined those approaches to work that were supposed to lead away from catastrophic failures.

At one time I tried to read this document. It was written in Talmudic language, but the general idea could be understood.

...When creating a technique that has a combination of a high degree of novelty, extremeness in terms of achievable parameters and ultimate responsibility for the final result, the task must be divided into a set of clearly defined technical problems and stages. The task of each stage should be clearly formulated, a layout is made for it without any unnecessary frills. A thorough testing of the main problematic part is quickly carried out for compliance with theoretical, design parameters, as well as docking parameters with other parts. If necessary, the layout of a separate stage can be quickly altered and re-tested. All the problems of the project should be completely covered by the "grid" of such works. Requirements for constructive completeness apply only to the last stages ...

The above-mentioned network graph on DHS-024 concerned an acoustic pressure sensor, in which, in addition to the main piezoelectric element, which perceives the acoustics of a running rocket engine, an additional isolated piezoelectric element was added, which was supposed to perceive only the vibration of the sensor. The dream of the creators of this "miracle" was to subtract the parasitic pickup from vibration from the signal with an additional element.

The idea as a whole, in general, is understandable, but the hope that it will be possible to decompose the picture of the initial vibrational sensitivity of the channels along all 3 coordinate axes into some compensated idyll and do it on the first attempt was too optimistic.

In the proposed set of works, it was worth starting with the fact that the signal from both channels of the sensor was dragged through a self-made charge amplifier into the computer's sound card, making exhaustive recordings of the channels, both on acoustics and on a vibration stand. In this case, the vibration stand should be slightly modified for the use of the Spectra Plus program and the removal of the transfer frequency response. The final mathematical evaluation should have been done in something like Matlab.

A simple frequency scanning of the impedance of the sensors showed that things were not so simple with the sensor: there was an additional frequency pole-zero pair in the acoustic channel around 18 kHz, which was not in the vibration channel. With a negative result on the convergence of mathematics, it was necessary to immediately go to the second round of the sensor design, and this had to be done before the practical start in electronics.

If it was realistic to start insisting on these actions, then immediately surfaced:

- We have already divided the money, everything suits us all ...

- The network schedule is signed and it is impossible to change it ...

- What? What a sound card!.. Think about it, can it even be on the list of permitted measuring equipment?


Subtle allusion to thick circumstances


If we ask ourselves the question, where did the frequency pole-zero pair appear in the DHS-024 sensor at 18 kHz, then the creators of this sensor will not be able to answer this question.
An absolutely similar question can be asked about string pressure sensors, which NIIFI has been producing since the 60s. It is well known that in these pickups there is some kind of string that has a resonance frequency, and this frequency changes when the string is stretched. When, back in the 80s, there were attempts to replace the obsolete sensor electronics with something modern and radiation-resistant, the rustic local public was dumbfounded by the result.

In the original circuit of electronics, a very peculiar handwriting and understanding of a professional was felt, which the locals could not grasp in any way.

The idea and knowledge about a certain resonance, of course, is good for university education, but in mechanical systems one can talk about the presence of multiple vibration modes, the frequencies of which, if special efforts are not made, can be located very close together and create amusing “collisions”.

Similar "rake" appeared behind the problems of Coriolis-type flowmeters.

When they gave a kick from the enterprise to my former boss, who created electronics primarily for capacitive sensors in the 80s and early 90s, a certain question mark hung in the air. It cannot be said that someone began to panic, rushed to look for ways out, make alternative developments and close the "loops". The typical reaction of NIIFI to such challenges was that the technical direction simply fell into suspended animation.

The presence of research reports of graduate students from LETI, documentation for many projects on capacitive sensors, and also the presence of a small shibzdik, stating - "... I proposed a solution in my dissertation..." did not compensate for the absence of the author of the projects.

As a demonstration of what the average electronics developer lacks in order to promote such projects, we can offer the following simple test:
you can ask to calculate the frequency response of an analog filter, some classic on operational amplifiers from the 80s, and do it purely "hand-to-hand" (for simplicity, in some kind of "calculator" like MathCAD). In practice, there is absolutely no need for this, since there have always been and are books, now there are simulation programs.

But when it becomes necessary to understand multi-loop feedbacks, and of different types, and to synthesize them yourself, then a complex of theoretical knowledge and a quality of mastering them are needed, which are significantly beyond the scope of a typical university course.

If we try to raise history ambitious projects of NIIFI, we will see some monotony.

Here in the region of 1983, NIIFI makes the first attempt to develop its own real microcircuits using CMOS technology. This task is entrusted to the head of the digital electronics laboratory, Mikhail Fedorovich.

The project ends in failure. A year or two later, the project is repeated, also by him and also ends in nothing.

I watched how Mikhail Fedorovich develops his projects. He puts a roll of graph paper on a large table, picks up a pencil, he is immediately overwhelmed by fantasies, and he endlessly “spreads his thought over the tree.” He was not the only one using this design style, but this design style is characterized by the fact that there is always residual thoughtlessness and a "funnel" is formed that "sucks" resources from the surrounding space.

At the turn of the 90s, I issued a thematic card for the development of my microcircuit for capacitive sensors according to the typical structure used in our laboratory.

The head of the department took and switched the budget and resources of the project to Mikhail Fedorovich, since “…he is in dire need of it now, and he is more experienced…”

I didn’t hear how it ended there, but I got the “hemorrhoids” to report on this work.

It is worth noting that the total circulation of microcircuits that was required, for the sake of which the project was intercepted and a disproportionately huge sadomasa unfolded, was only 5 ... 10 pieces.

At the very beginning of the 90s, the Research Institute of Television gave me a chance to develop a microcircuit for a capacitive sensor based on their base-matrix crystal. The microcircuit worked on the first try, and at NIITV they asked me how many microcircuits NIIFI was ready to buy.

Of course, the answer to this question was to be given by the leadership of NIIFI, but, of course, it was necessary to wait for an answer from the void ...

At the turn of the 90s, NIIFI technologists also had their own ambitious attempt to develop CMOS microcircuits. In addition to the fact that a lot of computer equipment was stolen at the start, the bet was made on people with zero experience in circuitry and a near-zero desire to immerse themselves in this circuitry.

There were several waves of computerization at NIIFI. If we look at the lists of those who were first provided with Soviet personal computers DVK-4 and trained to work on them, later - analogues of the IBM PC, then in retrospect it is clearly visible that very valuable resources were provided to those who did not have professional content to achieve some practically valuable result, as well as there was no desire to try to achieve it.

“... But how are things going with them there ... in the West ... among the bourgeoisie?”


Somewhere around 2009–2010. we have a colorful number of missiles in Russia. Oil prices were high at that time, and at the very top it was said that the problem must be tackled, and taken seriously ...

Literally in 3…4 months this wave reached NIIFI. The current modest funding program "Renaissance" was supplemented with the topic "Diagnostics", then the theme "Sandwich" and something like that ...

With the theme of "Renaissance" everything was clear. Local elderly blockheads fit into it very cool: they stupidly rewrote scientific reports from the 80s under the guise of new research developments. The most advanced among them have noticed that scientific reports from the 70s look much less hackneyed and more recent.

But what was to be done on the topic "Diagnostics"?

At first, this was very annoying for the local “gray cardinals”.

But then the reflection of typical actions prevailed (and training for the implementation of regulations): “Any new R&D should start with patent research reports!..” Everyone was very happy about this impulse and began to write patent reports.

A year passes, and the crowd writes and writes these reports, and somehow is not going to stop in this dope.

Logically, the real start should be made with the task of integrating into the problems of parent enterprises. Indeed, from RSC Energia, the head of the bench facilities for testing rocket engines came. He was a big, strong old man. He had a surprisingly excellent command of professional topics, he could define tasks and answer questions in clear, concrete numbers.

I was at a discussion with him and drew attention to the fact that the one who was to be responsible for this work in the future, all the time looked away somehow aloofly. It was clear that the old man had already been decided to "shod" and in the future to slip something completely different from what he asked for.

The space industry is unique in its own way. It amazes with the potential spectrum, the scale of its tasks and their complexity. Sensor measuring technology is unusual in that it allows you to "break in" and integrate into the solution of almost any technical problem, where the task is to achieve extreme results.

The purpose of creating specialized sensor equipment may be the task of helping to understand how much the ongoing processes in rocket and space technology correspond to what was planned and assumed. Another option for using sensors involves embedding them in a control and monitoring loop.

But between this demand for outstanding, or at least highly professional results, and the real action to achieve them, there is some kind of strange audience.

Another oddity is that the natural chain of actions and constructions aimed at the result, and the logic connecting them, must be squeezed into rather intricate regulations, rituals and rules. And the more unusual the task is, the more these rules hinder the achievement of the result.

PS


On the question of the d'Artagnans (as I was called in the comments to the previous article).

Now I work for a large private company. In 2022, during the CBO, I managed to develop a replacement for DSP Innovations products (and this is one of the world leaders). Before all these events, our company bought a license from them. Now this is no longer necessary.

My version works almost identically for normal conditions, but for conditions "as in tank' is noticeably superior.
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  1. +3
    April 18 2023 04: 53
    My further studies took place at the Bauman School

    And I didn’t even go there, probably, there was not enough oil in my head.
    Although I dreamed of going there since high school...
    1. +8
      April 18 2023 11: 53
      Great article and essay! The highest bar is the Bauman standard. Many thanks to the author!! 5+++
    2. -1
      April 23 2023 17: 40
      There is no need for incomprehensible and non-specific comments. I remember that handbooks were published for applicants to universities, including problems in physics for applicants to Moscow Higher Technical School.
      So, a graduate of an ordinary high school could not solve these problems, he was simply not taught this. For example, it was necessary to master the method of the center of mass in solving problems. Only a graduate of a physical and mathematical school or a specially trained one could enter.
      1. +1
        April 23 2023 18: 08
        At the expense of physics and mathematics school - this is somewhat an exaggeration.
        Of course, I met some, but the vast majority of those with whom I studied simply had a strong interest in physics, technology, and sometimes mathematics at school.
        There was another option for entering Baumanka. After serving in the army, the guys entered preparatory courses, they were trained there. They lived somewhere in a hostel.
        After serving in the army, their brains were not so flexible, but they had diligence, responsibility, diligence
  2. +2
    April 18 2023 06: 05
    However, in the region of 2000, he spoke about the need for greater adequacy in the construction of work at the NIIFI, he was immediately kicked from the enterprise.

    For such talents, it is necessary to create special enterprises not related to the rigidity of the administration's thinking ... of course, not like RUSNANO ... but like an academic city in Novosibirsk.
    All the best is the enemy of the good ... this is a problem for the implementation of our inventions.
    Bosses don't need the extra crap involved with this case.
    1. +18
      April 18 2023 08: 12
      The main idea of ​​my article is that some guys made a feeder out of a potentially very important space company. And the guys both at the top and at the bottom
      In the article, I did not touch much on either the list of failures or the list of corruption, since the article is not a list of investigation volumes for the prosecutor's office.
      1. +8
        April 18 2023 08: 39
        Dear author. The evolution of our Soviet research institutes fully reflected the evolution or degradation of Soviet leaders. Society is the measure of all relations. Thank you, of course, for the developments. But you are wrong about the current relations in the current design bureaus and research institutes. regardless of knowledge and skills. This also applies to production. In Soviet times, it was under the hood of the CCP
        1. +3
          April 18 2023 10: 45
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Dear author. The evolution of our Soviet research institutes fully reflected the evolution or degradation of Soviet leaders. Society is the measure of all relations.

          The measure is not society. Measure-results.
          And the mores of society are the rule according to which its leaders are nominated from society. And these morals, as shown by our recent history-shit!
          Although it is customary to say everywhere: "our people are just super, duper!"
        2. +3
          April 18 2023 12: 34
          As far as I understand, the author does not blindly castigate the viciousness of the USSR organization, but indicates that measures to reduce planning and execution cycles within the cap. relations (even such imperfect ones as ours) are superior to the late USSR with its extremely complex approaches to unsubscribes, demand and distribution of task elements.
          Under the USSR, the system was replete with "fences" and bureaucracy, and at any moment you could refer to the fence or roll paper balls to the point of stupor - if you could not or did not want to do something.
          Under the conditional "spherical in a vacuum" capitalism - once it will work, well, twice - then large orders will float away from you to the more hungry and motivated, and the most handy specialists will follow. And a well-fed life will remain in the past.

          At the same time, the system planted shelters and gardens of fearless animals, kept them and solved a lot of problems for them, creating ideal conditions for relaxation.
      2. +8
        April 18 2023 11: 42
        Quote: JustMe
        some guys have made a feeder out of a potentially very important space company.

        Everyone did it. All bosses across the country. Here the country could not stand it.
      3. 0
        April 18 2023 12: 09
        The main idea of ​​my article is that some guys made a feeder out of a potentially very important space company. And the guys both at the top and at the bottom

        There were a dime a dozen of these "some guys" in the USSR, and even now "posons2" have turned to the fullest. Moreover, in industries that have nothing to do with space or the defense industry, but are connected with state financing - the same thing. Very often - the same without state funding)). In fairly large offices. Yes, and other developers have the same situation. Legs and other parts of the body have been growing since Soviet times. And no education, with or without Baumanka, can fix this.
      4. 0
        April 19 2023 22: 10
        Quote: JustMe
        that sharpened pitching for summer cottages

        What is "pitching for dachas"?
        1. +1
          April 20 2023 09: 06
          hand pumps and associated piping to lift water, sometimes from very great depths
      5. 0
        April 22 2023 22: 21
        here, as it were, the level of competence of valiant valiant workers is also needed ... as well as a strong-willed desire to restore order among the persons "responsible" for making decisions ... With this hmmmm .... sort of ....
  3. +11
    April 18 2023 08: 49
    I don’t remember a damn thing from what the Polytechnic University taught me .. But - everything that I know now I owe to Soviet education, because it was it that turned my brains properly - it taught me how to study correctly .. And only thanks to this I was able learn your new profession on your own.
    1. +3
      April 18 2023 09: 07
      You rightly noticed. I received a good specialty in the days of the USSR - automation and telemechanics. And even when moving to a new place of residence in my fifty kopecks, they gladly took me to production in a new place
      1. +1
        April 22 2023 22: 25
        Kennedy, before he was flunked, not in vain noted that the Great Union won the mattresses in an intellectual battle. It was after our victory in space that we urgently reformatted our education with an emphasis on the exact sciences and the allocation of colossal sums for this. However, in relation to its scientists, this died by the 90s. After that, it became a practice that it was easier to keep visiting scientists on the greens under fear of kicking out and cheaper than teaching their own, since their too educated, having indigenous citizenship, began to ask too left questions.
  4. +8
    April 18 2023 11: 13
    Oh meetings! A sore subject, I go to them twice a week, to my request to the director to free me from this empty chatter, since there is no time left for work, there was an answer, this is also work. And about the meeting, one gets the impression that the person conducting them wants to somehow justify his position and show that he is working. Some kind of fraud. But as far as real cases are concerned, he immediately has "not my competence." And it also infuriates the pulling by the ears of all sorts of words "case", "welding" and the like, is it really impossible to say welding, damn it!
  5. +9
    April 18 2023 11: 24
    Good article. As a matter of fact, even under Stalin, the NKVD, and then the KGB, were supposed to deal primarily with this - identifying and destroying the "pyramids of power", that is, groups in industry and in general in the Soviet economy, which were created for maximum exaltation in all areas of "their own". Not specialists, not pros, but those who support the rest of the group.
    Thus, the development of the USSR stopped - when all professional elevators were clogged with these same "friends". All significant projects of the USSR quickly showed stagnation, as they were managed not with the aim of achieving the most effective result, but with the aim of creating as many benefits as possible for the pyramid that had captured the direction, and destroying as many real pros as possible, threatening the power of the pyramid by their very existence.
    Alas, the Soviet leadership did not understand the main danger for their country at all. The top of the USSR did not understand either systems engineering or management theories. After the War, our rulers simply simply relaxed, and began to languidly intrigue, believing that they won everything in general. That's the USSR and died.
    1. +3
      April 18 2023 13: 33
      under Stalin, the NKVD, and then the KGB, were supposed to deal primarily with this - identifying and destroying the "pyramids of power"


      Only the NKVD and the KGB themselves quickly filled up with groups and squabbles between the clans of "their own" and then had to purge them too, using appointees to the bodies from the apparatus of the Central Committee of the party. But there were already clans in the Central Committee itself, and the result was an inevitable vicious circle.

      Yes, and "our rulers" even in the highest body, in the Politburo, also did not "relax", but began to form groups of "their own".
      1. 0
        April 19 2023 08: 41
        Quote from: dump22
        Only the NKVD and the KGB themselves quickly filled up with groups and showdowns between the clans of "their"

        Yes. All right. But if the task had been formulated and set, the process could have been dealt with. And we would have built cities on Mars now. Alas, the required depth of understanding was not achieved ...
      2. -1
        April 19 2023 22: 24
        Yes, but such intrigues and power-feeding behavior are expected in the Central Committee, and specific actions can be taken to counter them, which are impossible when they are scattered across so many hundreds of institutions.
        1. -1
          April 20 2023 07: 55
          How else are possible. The capacity of the KGB for such work was more than enough. And they had people in abundance, and means. In addition, with a clear statement of the problem, the process is self-supporting from the inside. This is how it is now - the task was set from above to steal and share with Moscow. And all the millions of our officials observe discipline) And those who do not comply will be destroyed by other officials. If the task had been formulated differently (as in China, for example. First of all, WORK !!) and we would have an economy like the Chinese one, and not like it is now ... (Well, etc.
          1. 0
            28 June 2023 04: 01
            I'm sorry for the late reply...
            You may be an optimist, but as far as I understand the historical and structural processes in the USSR, at no point in time was it possible for the KGB to effectively perform such a wide range of tasks without being corrupt in turn.
            In a semi-capitalist society such as today's China, this would be possible if the KGB elites had enough prospects of monetary advancement not to seek advancement through political intrigue. But such changes would require an external force.
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  7. +3
    April 18 2023 12: 26
    The ultimate near-religious authoritarian hierarchy is what is good 2/5 of the way maximum, when something is created from the conditional "near zero", and there are some leaders who run this creation "out of nothing", and received maximum powers for this, with a minimum of accountability.
    The remaining 3/5 of the way, such a system naturally becomes more and more a "thing in itself", at all levels. People are not paid for the result, they are paid for the "action" and paperwork. Often, a non-professional outside the system simply cannot understand what is superfluous and parasitic in it, and the more epic it is twisted and ornate, the more difficult it is to figure it out even for a person with ideas.

    Clearing these Augean stables would require a separate, highly professional optimizer apparatus, with high authority and a flexible system, not sharpened to "search for witches", but sharpened to eliminate problems that prevent effective results.
    Such a tool could hardly exist in the USSR of the 80s - because incompetence has already permeated all levels. And in the 70s, the elderly elites still believed that everything was a "bundle", and the creation of such structures was excessive alarmism.

    So the small-town clans "with a godfather" are like small branches of a common structure headed by the LIB - they lived without grieve everywhere or almost everywhere. Where there was at least a small but stable gesheft and, most importantly, the opportunity to launch Byzantium, let in smoke and mirrors.
  8. +1
    April 18 2023 18: 52
    At the beginning of perestroika, they started talking about meritocracy (the team chooses a foreman, foremen foreman, foreman foreman, and so on), but somehow they quickly forgot about it, otherwise we would never have known either Yeltsin, or Chubais, or Gaidar .... . Yes, and labeled would not be enough for a long time. No, he sang beautifully, but he really did not know what to do. Since Raisa's illness was considered the main tragedy, there was nothing to meddle in the Kalash line.
  9. +7
    April 18 2023 19: 19
    Thus, the head of our laboratory, perhaps the best real research institute specialist in electronics, constantly complained that he, as a leader, had to spend a significant part of his time participating in various meetings. And as the day began, the chief, perhaps his deputy and selected specialists, went to confer with the head of the department and his local deputies. Further, some part of this meeting went to confer with the head of the department (complex) and there they already rubbed the problems. But that was not all. The next level was the deputy director for scientific and design work. If there were graters with production, then questions could be submitted to a meeting with the director or chief engineer.
    Very familiar. And in the whole article I found many familiar situations. However, the author wrote this after having already retired from there, and I have not quit yet, so I will not specify it for my office. As for the private offices with which I deal, they occupy their own niche, if large offices do their work, then after a five-year period and with poor quality. By the way, earlier, in the 60-70s, even large organizations worked with dignity, doing without small offices. Perhaps the people were different. I myself also went through the ZFTSH, entered the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology, I have been working for 45 years, although I had to change two global topics, now the third. Respect to the author!
  10. -2
    April 18 2023 20: 39
    Yes, that's good... But we won't produce it, because our workers don't have due diligence.


    This moment is similar to the problem in the commercialization of developments - the necessary specialist workers could certainly be found in firms on the world market and not on the domestic one.
    1. +1
      April 18 2023 21: 01
      the necessary specialist workers could certainly be found in firms in the world market and not in the domestic one.
      From this place in more detail, pzhlst. How will a foreign "worker-specialist" from the "world market" work at a secure enterprise? Are you writing from Russia? And from the 30s to the 70s, our specialist workers were kept as slaves. places exclusively by the forces of the NKVD and the KGB and threats of being sent to the Gulag.
      1. 0
        April 19 2023 06: 39
        Quote: Aviator_
        How will a foreign "worker-specialist" from the "world market" work at a secure enterprise?


        The Soviet state did a great "business", buying foreign machine tools, equipment - nothing prevented giving the assembly to those who in the world can do this, for example, GDR firms, etc. In general, the problem is wider there - in Western states, the system of commercialization of state developments is much better developed, there is legislation for this and the practice of its application, therefore there is a material incentive to develop any instrumentation with high quality and therefore, not to a lesser extent, there is good communication, surveillance devices, all useful civilian products. In the West, both firms and developers know that sooner or later it will be possible to profitably sell or reuse any development and it will not remain a report shelved.
        1. +1
          April 19 2023 07: 49
          nothing prevented giving the assembly to those who know how to do this in the world, for example, to GDR firms
          Zeiss (GDR) also installed its optics, there was no problem. You are proposing to join the global labor market, which is extremely naive.
          1. -1
            April 19 2023 19: 10
            The Eurofighter Typhoon is similarly designed and manufactured. And the USSR had countries of the socialist camp, where it was possible to give to do what they themselves were not strong in. Both near and far abroad were also attracted, as, for example, when the deep-sea Mir-1 and Mir-2 were made.
  11. +1
    April 18 2023 20: 57
    Where was the "evolution" in the Soviet research institutes and design bureaus of the peripheral zone
    The author quite accurately described the problems of the Soviet and post-Soviet periods (although a little confusingly). I can only add that the systemic problems of management/organization today are clearly expressed in various sectors of the national economy and authorities.
  12. +4
    April 18 2023 22: 21
    Thank you for your opinion and the rather neutral presentation!
    Your opinion with much less education and qualifications ...
    Maybe the "lack of workers with the proper level of diligence in performing critical operations" was not due to hands, but to consumption rates and overruns?
    A radio installer could get a coil of wire for knitting and installing a civilian block harness. I already forgot the brand (But MGTF for knitting and mounting the harness for the "representative of the customer" was measured by footage. It seems that the stock was 10 percent.
    That is, simple materials were not particularly considered. But for the excessive consumption of wire for a special product, it was necessary to get out. For the overspending of solder, flux and constant operation of the hood, by the way, they also did not ask.
    Why did he write all this? Maybe not only the clan system in the leadership began to destroy the USSR, but also a different attitude towards civilian and military?
    And since the author stirred up his memory, he expressed what he remembered. )
    Sorry!
    1. +1
      April 19 2023 06: 59
      Thanks for the interesting point of view.
      The workers in the NIIFI workshops were, on the whole, quite normal, there were no particular complaints about them.
      The response of the director to the enthusiastic technologist needs to be understood a little differently.
      At that time, the Chief Technologist had obvious ties to the shadow economy (for example, his son), he was involved in the corruption schemes of NIIFI (for example, 10 years of construction of a pioneer camp, which was never built). And then some intellectual claims first an outstanding result and then, obviously, an increase in his status. (As far as I remember his last name, it was Bulanov).
      The director is a person without special talents in technology, but like many Soviet leaders he was very two-faced. Well, of course, if he says something, then only to divert everything aside:
      - The hard workers are to blame!
      The chief technologist was a friend of the director and he protected him
      1. +4
        April 19 2023 07: 52
        but like many Soviet leaders he was very two-faced.
        You can seriously think that now this factor has decreased. Rather, it has grown to unprecedented proportions.
    2. +2
      April 19 2023 07: 56
      But for the excessive consumption of wire for a special product, it was necessary to get out. For the overspending of solder, flux and constant operation of the hood, by the way, they also did not ask.
      In the aerospace industry there was a strict weight control of products. You can’t shove extra wires in there, but pushing it to the side is completely.
  13. 0
    April 19 2023 06: 59
    "The task of escorting did not require extreme intellectual abilities, and local graduates were quite suitable for this. Those who immediately realized the charm of what a cool space glade they got into, and not just got there, but got there first and a whole shobla.
    Somewhere by 1967, a new leadership, a new young director, is appointed from this call, and in 1968 a new young team pushes smart people out of its composition - its potential competitors.
    ...........................................
    Very interesting article. I would like to see the author's opinion on possible ways to solve management problems then, in those days.
    The above quote is an explanation of how the young insatiable grabbers eventually gobbled up (and are now eating up) the old Soviet cadres already on a countrywide scale.
    I suppose that the point here is not only the stupidity and narrow-mindedness of the top. A strategy is being seen - to put degenerates in key more or less mass positions (bosses) for the collapse of the country. And they do not have to be bribed, recruited. They themselves will ruin everything because of their personal qualities.
    And with such managers, such people as the sensible head of the laboratory described will inevitably be, at best, limited in their career advancement, at worst, expelled.
    "Cadres decide everything."
    1. 0
      April 19 2023 08: 54
      The above quote is an explanation of how the young insatiable grabbers eventually gobbled up (and are now eating up) the old Soviet cadres already on a countrywide scale.
      I suppose that the point here is not only the stupidity and narrow-mindedness of the top. A strategy is being seen - to put degenerates in key more or less mass positions (bosses) for the collapse of the country. And they do not have to be bribed, recruited. They themselves will ruin everything because of their personal qualities.

      Purely IMHO, but the answer was a little earlier.
      In 1918, in German Kyiv, I somehow had to have a heart-to-heart talk with Manuilsky, the current General Secretary of the Comintern, and also a representative of Red Moscow in a very indefinite color Kyiv. I proved to Manuilsky that Bolshevism was doomed, for the sympathy of the masses was not on its side.

      I remember how now, with what sincere disdain, Manuilsky looked at me. I definitely wanted to say, here you go, even the world war, and it hasn’t brought all the fools out yet.

      “Listen, my dear,” he smiled very contemptuously, “what the hell do we need the sympathy of the masses for? We need a government apparatus. And we will have it. And the sympathy of the masses? Ultimately, we do not care about the sympathy of the masses.

      And now the question is - how was the very "apparatus of power" formed in those conditions? And how did it turn out and what could be done with it? Well, and so, to the heap, you can recall the materials of the XIX Congress of the CPSU, and some plenums (ChSKh, about the same time)). And the answer, with a high probability, will be drawn automatically feel
    2. 0
      April 19 2023 16: 51
      I'll try to put in my "penny". Under the task of design, construction, talents, or at least abilities, are required to analyze the existing and synthesize the new, non-existent. Without this, a constructor is impossible, no matter where he studies. In (70-80) years, MVTU was a fairly average university, compared to other Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kharkov, Kazan, Sverdlovsk, Novosibirsk, etc. universities. I did not know that in the USSR there were attempts to create lasers with thermonuclear (heavy hydrogen) pumping. The Union could well respond to US SDI with combat orbital stations that have already been tested. I had nothing to do with NIIFI, I can’t say anything. Novosibirsk University from all over Siberia and the Far East gathered gifted schoolchildren to its physics and mathematics school. Probably there were others.
      On management. In "perestroika", the root of evil was found in the command-administrative system, CAS. Otherwise, the "vertical of power", the pyramidal structure of governance. In clever words, "nepotism and tribalism, which were scolded in the comments, have taken root there. Actually, the means of replacing CAS is known. These are horizontal-type control structures: matrix, mosaic, swarm, etc.
  14. +1
    April 19 2023 07: 06
    [quote = Aviator_] [quote] By the way, earlier, in the 60-70s, even large organizations worked with dignity, doing without small offices. Probably people were different. [/ Quote]
    ....................................
    I also think that it is the people, the staff.
  15. 0
    April 19 2023 17: 30
    In "perestroika", the root of evil was found in the command-administrative system, CAS. Otherwise, the "vertical of power", the pyramidal structure of governance.

    I argue the opposite. Since "perestroika" was the final stage of the covert war against the USSR, I think that it is the KAS that is necessary for the country's survival.
    Only at the top in the structures of science and production should be a scientist, engineer, designer, organizer of production. With practical experience, of course.
    1. -1
      April 19 2023 20: 56
      If I understand correctly, you are a supporter of the revival of the USSR? Unfortunately, it has long been said that you cannot enter the same river twice. The Union had a very bright, very tragic, full of achievements, but short (historically) fate. Most of the people who made the history of the USSR no longer exist. They have passed away. The idealists, the "commissars in dusty helmets" who stood at the origins of the socialist state, are also long gone. As well as the ideology that held the state together. It is impossible to revive the Union, and it is not necessary. Russia is at a different stage of development following industrialization. A breakthrough is required, a breakthrough into a new quality, where a person will be busy with mental work, art, music, etc. Production, communications, housing and communal services, etc. will fall on the shoulders of cyber systems.
      1. 0
        April 19 2023 22: 13
        Naturally, I am a supporter of the revival of the best of the experience of the USSR.
        What you wrote excludes a productive exchange of opinions. This is too different from my opinion. And in this situation, the discussion is meaningless.
        However, I would like to draw your attention to two facts:
        1 Modern Russia lives on the heritage of the USSR. More precisely, the fact that their heritage has not yet been completely destroyed. Even oil and gas fields were mostly explored in the USSR. Personnel, scientific schools, production. technology, weapons. I will especially note nuclear weapons. Without this, the country would have been destroyed long ago as Yugoslavia.
        2 There is a clear and convincing improved version of the USSR. China is the second country in the world.

        The USSR did not disappear spontaneously, but was destroyed as a dangerous competitor.

        M. Thatcher.
        "Thanks to a planned policy and a peculiar combination of moral and material incentives, the Soviet Union managed to achieve high economic indicators. The percentage of growth in its gross national product was approximately twice as high as in our countries. If we take into account the huge natural resources of the USSR, then, with a rational management of the economy, the Soviet Union had very real opportunities to oust us from world markets.

        In March 1982, Ronald Reagan signed into law National Security Decision Directive (NSDD) No. 32. It was a broad strategy aimed at weakening Soviet influence in Eastern Europe. Seven months later, another directive was issued - NSDD No. 66. It listed measures to undermine the Soviet economy.
        1. -1
          April 19 2023 23: 08
          M. Thatcher.
          "Thanks to a planned policy and a peculiar combination of moral and material incentives, the Soviet Union managed to achieve high economic indicators. The percentage of growth in its gross national product was approximately twice as high as in our countries. If we take into account the huge natural resources of the USSR, then, with a rational management of the economy, the Soviet Union had very real opportunities to oust us from world markets.

          Do not extend the source? And then about Houston, 1991 too much foam .... Maggie, of course, was the one ... But why should she love the Union?
          There is a clear and convincing improved version of the USSR. China is the second country in the world.

          There are a couple of nuances in this place. Starting with the fact that the USSR, unlike China, no one offered either money or technology under ... very benign conditions, ending with the fact that China is a trivial capitalist state. With strong state participation and regulation, not without it, but, nevertheless .... And all these decorations and red flags .....
          Another thing is that the Yankees did not understand very well who they were dealing with. But this is the problem of the Yankees, isn't it?)
          1. +1
            April 20 2023 06: 04
            For example https://politikus.info/articles/66953-margaret-tetcher-kak-my-razrushali-sssr.html
            There are two good books about the destruction of the USSR from the outside by Ostrovsky, Doctor of Historical Sciences. "Who appointed Gorbachev?", "Stupidity or treason? Investigation into the death of the USSR".
            American author Peter Schweitzer. "The secret strategy of the collapse of the USSR":
            “Analysis of the reasons for the collapse of the Soviet Union outside the context of American politics is reminiscent of an investigation into the case of a sudden, unexpected and mysterious death, where the possibility of murder is not taken into account and no attempt is even made to study the circumstances of this death. But even if the victim was sick with an incurable disease, the investigator is obliged to investigate as much as possible. What was the cause of death? Was the victim given medication that at the right time could help her, or not given? Were there any unusual circumstances that accompanied this death, or any unusual things connected with it. "
            As for China, they have caught the Western world in their manic, irresistible desire to make money out of everything. On their money addiction. Deng Xiaoping turned out to be wiser and more far-sighted, luring investors to China. Now China has a powerful industry that threatens to turn the entire Western world into its own province. Strategy and state. Chinese-style regulation is surviving socialism. Although it's not about the labels, not the names. And if it is more efficient, then it is better than the Soviet system.
            Theoretically, the USSR could follow this path. But in the USSR, the coming to power of the "reformer" Gorbachev was preceded by the strange deaths of Kulakov, Masherov, Brezhnev, Ustinov, Suslov, Chernenko. What, in particular, writes Ostrovsky.
            All Asian "tigers" (Korea, Japan) have achieved success under strong state regulation.
            1. -2
              April 21 2023 16: 20
              It is clear that the topic is no longer interesting, but better late than never).
              Thank you, of course, but the link provided is, alas, not the source. That is, it is quite possible that this speech could have been. But this is not a source. Otherwise, let’s remember now that Maggie was talking about 15 million Russians .... The same is quoted many times)).
              Thank you for Schweitzer, but.... If the patient has cancer in the terminal, it doesn't matter if he was stabbed to death. It is clear that the investigator has his own interest, but for the same relatives, in general, it doesn’t matter. when it comes to salvation...
              For China, you can talk endlessly). But here, as elsewhere, everything depends on what we want to see there. More precisely, do we want to see something there, or are we just looking at what is there? In the second case, the picture is not so blissful ...
              Of course, the USSR could go a little less than nothing along the "Chinese path".
              As for the "strange deaths", then Chernenko, "dear Leonid Ilyich", and the same Mikhail Andreevich left simply from old age (with all the accompanying ones). And they stretch another year - nothing would have changed.
              As for the rest, Kulakov was in charge of agriculture. With all the consequences. And for agriculture and for him. Well, and everything else...
              With Ustinov - yes, a strange (seemingly) story. On the other hand, the age is not childish, and the way of life and all that. And most importantly, even if Dmitry Fedorovich became General Secretary ... In what way would this save the Union? in this place, these tales of Malgorzata can not be repeated, but the real life was much more dull.
              Back in those years, a lot of things were said with Masherov, there is a really muddy story. But the beneficiary is visible quite clearly))).
              The main thing is that the Union by the 80s was seriously ill. There, even if you see a disease, then Allah knows how to treat it so that the patient does not die. And they didn't even try to see it...
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                April 21 2023 21: 51
                I don't see the point of having a quote fight at all. People and politicians in particular are best told by their deeds. Moreover, politicians tend not to always be sincere, to put it mildly.
                As for deaths, for example, Chernenko's assistant Pribytkov claims in his book that he was poisoned.
                Mass sabotage from above in the late USSR is described by N. Ryzhkov in his books and interviews. Even he couldn't handle it.
                Part of the manifestations of sabotage in the pre-perestroika USSR is described by Poltoranin in his memoirs. Some of the problems even before Gorbachev were organized artificially.
                In 1991, there could still be some illusions about the true attitude of the United States and its European satellites towards Russia. But for the next 31 years, they methodically prepared the final destruction of our country. The final stage of this policy has now arrived.
                Schweitzer absolutely correctly draws analogies between criminal murder and the destruction of the USSR. It is more profitable for killers to present death as the result of an accidental combination of circumstances or an incurable disease. And best of all as a result of the personal mistakes of the most killed. So as not to frighten off the next potential victims.
                The destruction of the USSR is in the same row as the seizure of power by aliens and their mercenaries in two stages in 1917, financed by American bankers. In the USSR, after an internal struggle, relatively healthy forces eventually won and made the country the second power in the world. And the country was again destroyed from the outside. 1991 is a continuation of 1917. These people did it, for whom the labels "socialism", capitalism" are insignificant. They easily change slogans. For them, the main thing is the seizure of power and property.
                In the same series of recent coups, the successful "Maidan" in Ukraine and the failed one in Belarus.
                1. -1
                  April 21 2023 22: 42
                  I don't see the point of having a quote fight at all.

                  Quote like I didn't start wink . Esssno, no one runs over, but too often I have come across ... the reliability of biting phrases)). And there were never any illusions about Maggie, that her ... colleagues never existed. But far-fetched praise from the enemy is always suspicious)). But that is....
                  As for deaths, for example, Chernenko's assistant Pribytkov claims in his book that he was poisoned.

                  as already said - to approve and Pribytkov and you and even I can do anything. Some, for example, claim that loyal Stalinists poisoned Stalin ....
                  As for the "manifestations of sabotage" - so now I'm throwing a dozen of them here even without notes. And what should this mean? if the vast majority of statesmen commit sabotage, what can be said for this state? The "dear Ilyich" you mentioned was twice presented with materials stating that Monsieur Yakovlev ..... is not a very faithful Leninist. He didn't do anything. Is he also a saboteur?
                  In 1991, there could still be some illusions about the true attitude of the United States and its European satellites towards Russia.

                  Any sane person in their address never has any illusions and could not have.
                  Schweitzer absolutely correctly draws analogies between criminal murder and the destruction of the USSR.

                  Once again - I personally am not an investigator in this place. I'm not very interested in all these accusations. It is much more interesting to me whether the patient could have survived ... Based on what he saw then, and what he learned after, he could not. Previously, you had to scratch. Which has been discussed many times. But almost all the characters you mentioned did not care ....
                  Purely IMHO, but everything is simple. If the immune system is working properly, it copes with almost any attack. If not, then, as with AIDS, you can die from a cold, conditionally. 1991 showed that the immune system simply did not exist.
                  So you can talk as much as you like "for enemies", but the Union died on its own, although not without help. And after Nikitos it was inevitable, the whole question is time. Before him - meager chances, but there were ....
                  1. 0
                    April 21 2023 23: 07
                    I have given you three historical studies. Two books written by a doctor of historical sciences. The opinions of two not the last people in those days. If you reasonably refute what Ostrovsky writes, I will read it with interest. But you're not going to read. All the best.
        2. +1
          April 20 2023 07: 06
          "1 Modern Russia lives on the legacy of the USSR."... The oil and gas fields of Eastern Siberia and the Far East have not been explored and developed in the USSR. Personnel, scientific schools of the collapsed Union fled to the West in large numbers. Soviet production and technologies were privatized and sold for metal by "red directors" and active Komsomol members in the 90s, when they turned into "businessmen", or more simply into the mafia. Nuclear warheads have a limited shelf life, so Soviet warheads have been disposed of, and those that are in service with Russian-made strategic nuclear forces are modern.
          "2 There is a clear and convincing improved version of the USSR. China ..." China is quite a "market" country. In addition, he is ending the industrialization that the Russian Federation went through in the 20th century.
      2. -1
        April 20 2023 03: 50
        Quote: SavranP
        Russia is at a different stage of development following industrialization. It takes a dash

        And how long will we run for a jerk? And we won’t get tired, grinding the galoshes of the USSR?
        1. +3
          April 20 2023 07: 39
          Yes, climbers respected galoshes, they regret that they are not on sale. I don't know if you remember the USSR? Probably no. The main claims of the population (70-80) were not only in the shortage of goods, but also in bureaucratic arbitrariness, irremovable nomenclature with its privileges. The party of workers and peasants, which at least somehow limited "administrative arbitrariness" turned into a party of officials. With the ensuing consequences. The USSR has expired. With regard to the breakthrough ... Let's wait and see.
  16. +1
    April 19 2023 20: 26
    "Every third one was expelled" - such garbage was not only in the Baumanka, but also in many other well-known universities. And in one of them (I won’t say in which)) there was a period when for 2 (two!) absenteeism per semester they were deprived of scholarships. Needless to say, for an attempt to give a teacher a bribe (even with cognac) for a test, a three-letter letter was sent by the teacher. Students from the Caucasus were sincerely perplexed by this :))
    1. +1
      April 20 2023 03: 55
      Quote: MBRBS
      when for 2 (two!) absenteeism per semester they were deprived of scholarships.

      And what for did you do two absenteeism? We were generally expelled for smoking in the toilet.
  17. +5
    April 19 2023 20: 49
    In the early 90s I worked as a logger, that is, I worked in the exploration of oil and gas wells. That is, we lowered instruments stuffed with all sorts of sensors into the well and recorded the readings. When I first encountered Western equipment that began to come to us in Russia, I saw with my own eyes the difference in the quality of the sensors. Our pressure sensor had an accuracy of 0.01 atm. Western quartz 0.001 atm, that is, an order of magnitude. This made it possible to extract valuable information from the deposit for its developers.
    The magnetostrictive acoustic emitter gave out much more energy. Acoustic sensors also had much better sensitivity. All this led to the fact that our instruments did not hold a candle to Western ones. But most of the similar sensors were used in the defense industry. In particular, the acoustics of submarines essentially differed little from our instruments.
    Actually, even then I realized that this was no accident. And this article shows why it was so.
    1. 0
      April 20 2023 04: 09
      Quote: malyvalv
      All this led to the fact that our instruments did not hold a candle to Western ones.

      Yeah. And then I probably dreamed in a dream how we measured the soot. There were fractions of grams.
  18. 0
    April 19 2023 21: 45
    Thanks to the author! It's kinda sad, though, so much has been lost...
  19. +3
    April 20 2023 00: 18
    As a demonstration of what the average electronics developer lacks in order to promote such projects, we can offer the following simple test:
    you can ask to calculate the frequency response of an analog filter, some classic on operational amplifiers from the 80s, and do it purely "hand-to-hand" (for simplicity, in some kind of "calculator" like MathCAD). In practice, there is absolutely no need for this.

    Let me disagree with you a little. What you called "there is absolutely no need" is an element of the classical synthesis method, for example, a serial-type corrective link according to the Solodovnikov method using asymptotic LAFCs, the same analog filter on operational amplifiers from the 80s (not necessarily, of course, you can and otherwise implement).

    That blue line...
    hi
    1. +3
      April 20 2023 09: 00
      Great.. Let's imagine what the next step might be.
      Here is a piezo acoustic pressure sensor on an exotic piezo material on rare earth elements. The capacitance of the piezoelectric element is 40 pF (very small), the piezo-recoil is bad (maximum somewhere around 3..4 picocoulombs). The insulator is glass and at 700 degrees begins to conduct current. People claim that the resistance of glass at this temperature is 100 kOhm. We take the correction for lies - specifically these people (empirical coefficient) - and we get 10 kOhm.
      The combination of 40 pF and 10 kOhm is terribly bad, but you need to get an operating frequency range of 50 Hz-50 kHz. Parasitic charge leakage is huge.
      However, there are glimpses.
      The charge booster has a charge suction effect.
      Its input impedance competes with parasitic resistance, but is severely underpowered.
      Then a natural question arises - is it possible to design a charge amplifier in such a way that the suction effect is gigantic.
      In Russian, to have an ultra-low input impedance over the entire frequency range.
      In fact, the calculation approaches and mathematics here are about the same as in the calculation of analog filters.


      I spent my 1200 rubles on the creation of electronics and heard ..
      "Yes, our sensors are phenomenal!!!..."
      Recently I asked: "Well, how is my project doing?"
      ".. Yours?.. And what do you have to do with it?.. It is still described in books.."
      1. 0
        April 29 2023 09: 36

        Here is a simplified diagram of a capacitive sensor converter. It is specific in that it compensates for the spread of dimensional tolerances, the non-linear type of change in the main (measuring) capacitance, and the complex dependence on the thermal expansion of construction materials.
        The length of the cable could be 15..50 meters, and this is with a measuring capacitance of the sensor of several picofarads.
        When implementing this scheme, one must understand its functioning, be able to calculate feedbacks of both continuous and discrete time. In modern times, this structure gave results that are far, far unattainable for today's NIIFI solutions built on the use of chips from Analog Devices.
  20. +1
    April 20 2023 01: 09
    It seems to me that the problem is what kind of people are involved in management now.
    All people are different. Each is sharpened for certain characteristic actions.
    Actually, ideology has nothing to do with it. The type of leaders described in this article has been and will be at all times. I see the nature of the occurrence of such situations in the fact that on the way to a leadership position, an ambitious person, flexible in relations with people, who has a desire to dominate, who has, first of all, emotional intelligence, breaks forward.
    As a result of achieving his leadership position as the main goal, he convinces himself that he is at the top of the human pyramid of quality, and not just in a narrow niche corresponding to his abilities.
    The consciousness that each niche is important and unique, as a rule, is absent from such people, due to the peculiarities of their own niche.
    When a difficult task arises, such people are guided by a simple consideration: “you can’t please everyone, therefore, you need to do what is convenient for you.”
    At the same time, the convenience of other groups of people is not a value for such an individual, since he believes that something is uncomfortable for them only because of their underdevelopment to their level. Therefore, grow up first, and there will be a consensus. This applies to all activities, not just space technology.
    What can be the way out of this eternal situation?
    Obviously, in changing the type of person who performs the functions of a leader.
    To do this, you can try to bring down the pathos from the position of leader, depriving her of the "buns" that are tasty for people prone to megalomania.
    As a result, "doers" will come forward, not "masters".
    What else can be done? To develop and encourage "horizontal" connections among performers, to make the result of the team's work the main achievement, so that cooperation would work, and individual geniuses (in quotes and without) and their ideas would be accepted without a second thought about the future division of laurels.
    As long as the spirit of individualism flourishes in our country, we will not go far, no matter how bright our Motherland shines with talents.
    It would seem that the capitalist world testifies to the opposite, but this is only at first glance - real breakthroughs were carried out by teams of like-minded people, supported by administrators who know their place, and not by lone geniuses earning millions.
    In the history of megacorporations, there is always an initial (and most important) stage - team enthusiastic doers.
  21. +4
    April 22 2023 09: 48
    Author, thank you very much for the article, I write with a capital letter. Now it’s almost unbearable to work in any research institutes, engineers, if it’s not the lead engineer, are paid a penny, all sorts of trampoline henchmen, ride luxury cars, and you’ll be asked three thousand rubles for horseradish, I remember we bought components with our own money. The engineer is at least not an idiot and sees all this. So, thank God, there is commerce, where for a "chicken" carrying, although not golden, but ordinary eggs, the master-capitalist will pay well. Now social elevators no longer work, in the USSR it was at least possible to advance in the technical part, and many directors went from an engineer (or even from a worker), when they knew all the sections, all the work. And now the director's place is just something like a principality. The West deftly told a cartoon to our fools that a manager might not be technically competent, I worked in Western companies, where management is being trained after a dozen years of plowed engineering work. And we have a clown-journalist places "reliable" people in all positions. This is the situation we have with communications and satellites, and primarily with the flight of personnel ... Previously, you could just work for your country, but now you still have to feed a bunch of mediocre freeloaders. In the USSR, at least it was possible to do business and not "shine", but now they will not even let you work, they will force you to do some kind of "fraud" instead of real business.
  22. +3
    April 22 2023 14: 48
    This article is the second in the series "Mechanics of stupor and impotence.."
    First article:

    https://topwar.ru/202901-mehanika-stupora-i-impotencii-sovetskih-nii-i-kb-periferijnoj-zony-chast-i.html
  23. 0
    3 May 2023 11: 14
    I'm just freaking out..
    On May 2023, 2010, I accidentally crossed paths with the former Chief Technologist of NIIFI in 2018..XNUMX.
    Well, to the question: And how are things now at NIIFI?
    the answer was that now this is a dying enterprise, people are running away, full of seams and so on ..
    When I worked at NIIFI in 2008-12 the state invested billions (!) rubles there.
    So the cost of the piezoceramics line was 1.5 billion rubles, .. and now it costs (according to the Chief Technologist)
    The cost of the automatic soldering line that NIIFI received in 2010-11 is $26 million (I could be wrong). This line was not working already in 2012 for extremely idiotic reasons.

    Under these billions, the leadership of NIIFI and specifically the Deputy General for Science Comrade. Blinov promised to create miracles of advanced technology like ultrasonic scanners, intelligent sensor systems integrated into the design ...
    .. And all this turned out to be a blatant lie and a scam.
  24. 0
    28 July 2023 09: 38
    The third article in the series "Mechanics of stupor and impotence .."

    The history of the attempt to create the Hyperbar system in Russia


    https://topwar.ru/222170-istorija-popytki-sozdanija-sistemy-giperbar-v-rossii.html

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