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The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution condemning the glorification of Nazism, the United States and Canada voted "against"

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After voting in the framework of the UN General Assembly on a resolution condemning the glorification of Nazism in all its manifestations, it turned out that our world cannot even agree here.

The draft resolution was prepared by the Russian delegation in collaboration with the delegations of the 42 states of the world. The document contains concern that in some European countries, which are well known to everyone and clearly do not need an additional view, continues to be expressed not only the strange support of SS veterans marching along the streets of European cities, but also a clear detriment to the rights of those who in their time at the cost of his health or life he fought in defense of the world against the Nazi plague. The resolution condemns the erection of monuments to Nazi criminals.

The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution condemning the glorification of Nazism, the United States and Canada voted "against"
Carolina, USA.
Neo-Nazi rally. Photo by Cyril Simin - photosight.ru


Obviously, this also concerns the monument erected in the Latvian town of Bauska to the Latvian battalions of the Waffen-SS (No. 23, 319, 322). Recall that with the active support of the authorities of Bauska in September 2012, this monument was presented to the general public. The monument itself, as the inscription in Latvian says, is dedicated to the events of 1944, when young Latvians joined the fascist German units in order to resist the “second Soviet occupation”.

The General Assembly resolution condemns the desecration of monuments to the fighters against the Nazi threat, which in the 30-40-s of the last century hung over the planet.

All the points of condemnation would seem obvious, and therefore one would think that the states participating in the meeting of the United Nations General Assembly would unanimously support the resolution. However, in fact, everything turned out much more complicated than one might have supposed.

Although the resolution was adopted, it was not at all unanimous. It turned out that, at a minimum, the 60 states that had the right to express their position on this issue have an opinion that differs from that of other countries that condemn the glorification of Nazism. Of these 120 states, three countries voted against the resolution, which caused obvious bewilderment not only for those who developed this resolution, but also for those for whom the word “Nazism” itself is associated with tragic history. Opponents of the adoption of the anti-Nazi resolution were such states as the Marshall Islands, Canada and the United States of America. We will not go into the details of the position of representatives of the Marshall Islands, especially since this state with the 60-thousand population is associated with the United States, and turn to the position of other voters who voted against.

But a strange situation turns out: American representatives literally at all corners are trumpeting that it is the United States that is the main state of the world that won the Second World War, but now, as it turns out, the “winners” see nothing reprehensible about what they fought against in 40 years of the last century. However, in order not to open up such a controversial position, the Americans and their northern Canadian neighbors, faithful to the bone, decided to veil their position with old tales about human rights and freedom of speech. According to representatives of these North American delegations, the condemnation of the glorification of Nazism in the modern world somehow undermines freedom of speech. It turns out that in the United States and Canada are ready to provide platforms for those who advocate ideas of racial and religious intolerance, based on the election of representatives of a single nationality. If this is the observance of human rights, then what about the rights of those people against whom aggressive Nazi attacks are directed.

Hiding behind the apparently contrived ideas about freedom of speech, Washington and Ottawa, in fact, embroil the memory of the millions of victims of fascism (Nazism) during the Second World War. And if we consider that both veterans of that war live in both the USA and Canada, the authorities of these countries spit on the merits of these people. If freedom of speech, in the opinion of the American and Canadian delegations to the UNGA, is such that it is possible without shame of conscience to declare one’s involvement in Nazi crimes and worship monuments to Nazi punishers, then it becomes clear where these states may eventually slip.

It is obvious that a vote on the resolution by the listed states, and first of all the USA, is a clearly thought out action. After all, it is no secret that in Washington the effect of a stimulus is not at all the text of the resolution, but the fact that this resolution was initiated by Russia. And in this case, everything works according to a stable operating scenario, which has remained unchanged since the fierce Cold War: “If the Russians offered, then we (the Americans) will be against it.” Or, as in the famous phrase of the Soviet times, “I did not read, but I condemn ...”

Obviously, if Washington were in favor of a resolution, it would offend its main Eastern European satellites - the Baltic states, the entire existence of whose “independent” authorities are based on the continuous declaration of Russophobia. The more words and actions that somehow affect the honor and dignity of Russia, the more praise from overseas from the "Big Brother".

In other words, voting “against” the provisions of the resolution condemning the glorification of Nazism for the United States is a litmus test, which once again demonstrates that this state still cannot depart from the stereotype of hostility on the part of Russia. It is like an invisible source of control over the electorate, when the presence of an enemy spurs certain actions. And what could be better than the support of the United States from the opponents of Russia, who feed themselves on opposing themselves to those who for decades have been regularly developing these territories, famous for their, forgive, “rotten” kind.

In general, the American "against" is a symbol of stereotypes that are not cured by time, according to which the Cold War is not over yet ... By the way, this is not the first vote on this issue, in which the US speaks accordingly. And could the USA and Canada support the resolution when Nazism lives and flourishes in their territories to this day.

According to the 2010 census, more than 3 millions of Indians live in these North American countries. At the same time, up to a million Indians are forced to live on the territory of special zones - reservations (peculiar ghettos). If on average in the USA the poverty line is up to 12% of the population, then this indicator among the Indians is higher by more than 2 times - 25%. In this case, the Indian family is not easy to leave the reservation, even if she (the family) wants it. And if we take into account that in some reservations, the unemployment rate is simply infinite (above 80%), then this state of affairs can’t be called a violation of the rights and freedoms of these people on an ethnic basis. As one American political scientist called the Indians, “strangers in their own country.” So where, then, are human rights, freedom of speech, thought, movement, and other democratic pillars? ..

However, if the Americans, Canadians, and “Marshall Islanders” expressed their explicit views, then the UN 57 states decided not to say yes or no. Like, we seem to be in favor, but at the same time we look back at those who stand behind us. And for those who are behind, they were discussed above. And this speech is not about the Marshall Islands ...

On the one hand, it is surprising, but on the other - the position of the Ukrainian delegation, which has decided to abstain from voting, falls into a common outline. You can think for a long time on how the state, on whose territory during the times of the Great Patriotic War the people endured the hardest trials, faced with the fascist plague, did not support the resolution. One can discuss for a long time the question of how the delegation of a country that survived Babi Yar and the extermination of the indigenous population set by the ideologues of Nazism could shy away from a direct answer.

But all thoughts and discussions will be superfluous, since today the official authorities in Kiev, it seems, cannot decide for itself which way to continue leading the country. Nationalist attacks in the West, the pro-Russian East and South, the Center declaring European integration ... the dashing president, the parliament in constant political fever ... Forwards, backwards, to the right, then to the left, then to the head in the sand - in general, the vote " "- the choice of the modern Ukrainian government, which obviously does not cause respect. Yes, and vote the delegation of Ukraine "in favor", the authorities would have to suppress the activity of the ultra-right in the western regions, and the central authorities clearly do not have the power and authority to be able to solve such serious problems. As a result, Kiev and had to sign in their helplessness ...

The European Union states, as well as Moldova, Georgia and some other states fell into the same group of “doubters”.

Well, here, too, everything is clear. Brussels could not vote against its “chicks”, which so far are reliably covered by its wing, and therefore have the opportunity to install the monuments of the SS men, to sprinkle sand on the streets during marches of Nazi battalions veterans ... And Georgia and Moldova are aimed at European integration, and therefore they voted the same as "European brothers".

It is encouraging that the overwhelming majority of the countries of the world supported the resolution, which speaks of an adequate global assessment of the crimes of Nazism, which cannot be hidden either by fables about freedom of speech, by the principles of tolerance, or by other contrived screens.
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  1. YARY
    YARY 29 November 2012 08: 18
    +57
    Q.E.D!
    THEY ARE FASCISTS!

    And like any fascist bastard, they have a goal of "DRANG NAKH OSTEN!"
    And any bureaucrat bleating in favor of these abominations is an enemy of the people, a traitor!
    Revive the military triples!
    1. Blackscorp
      Blackscorp 29 November 2012 09: 03
      +58
      For some reason I’m not surprised .... All of these 60 countries that did not support the resolution resemble a herd of sheep, led by a shepherd (USA), it’s a pity that Ukraine was in this company as well ..... And the USA is fascist the state was understandable from the 1860s ..... and even earlier .... and indeed, this country was formed from those who could not settle in Europe, so to speak, of garbage, what do we want from them more?
      1. baron.nn
        baron.nn 29 November 2012 09: 47
        +21
        BlackScorp:
        That's for sure, and don't forget that these scum mixed up with former slaves ...
        1. sv-sakh
          sv-sakh 29 November 2012 09: 54
          +29
          Do not forget where the unfinished fascists fled ..
          1. es.d
            es.d 30 November 2012 01: 21
            +2


            Still not bad arranged .. The same von Braun.
            In general, paradoxically, the Jews who fled from the National Socialists built the BOMB against Hitler, the Germans?, Who fled from responsibility - the means of delivery.
            I am silent about the rank and file ZZZ who have found a safe haven in Canada (.. a wonderful country, how many leaders gave for the "liberated" countries ..), the Americas.
            And Ukraine (Profesor?), Pleased (.
            Israel, yes? Has voted?
          2. Kostya pedestrian
            Kostya pedestrian 2 December 2012 16: 04
            +3
            In-in, who did not disarm the fascist battalions, and did not disarm, and was preparing to use against the USSR. Question!

            Although, what's the difference, the Nazis turned Germany into ruins, and the Anglo-Saxons took away everything from her friends, and deprived them of everything! USSR incidentally Germany, or rather German people regretted.

            So let your dog’s happiness be carried to its new owners until they are again framed and thrown out.
        2. Blackscorp
          Blackscorp 29 November 2012 09: 58
          +10
          Quote: baron.nn
          That's for sure, and don't forget that these scum mixed up with former slaves ...


          I agree, I missed this point, thanks for correcting wink .... The mixture generally turns out explosive .... and it seems to me that it is here that you need to look for motives for their behavior ....
        3. Igorboss16
          Igorboss16 30 November 2012 00: 45
          +3
          how many geeks are still alive, no morality, no respect for ancestors, no values, they don’t give a damn about everything, I just don’t understand what they want to achieve this fool they only have abyss ahead
      2. lotus04
        lotus04 30 November 2012 15: 02
        +4
        Quote: BlackScorp
        For some reason, I’m not surprised .... All of these 60 countries that did not support the resolution resemble a flock of sheep, led by a shepherd (USA),


        Nevertheless, sometimes regret creeps into my head that Comrade Stalin "stopped the war machine" in Germany in vain. It was possible, even necessary, to "walk" around the world, to restore order in some places, to return brains to their place.
      3. vozn_ser
        vozn_ser 2 December 2012 14: 56
        +10
        Quote: BlackScorp
        it is a pity that Ukraine turned out to be in this company


        It proves once again that the power in Ukraine is treacherous, not representing the interests of the people.

        The authorities of the country most affected by fascism in the past support it in the present !. SHAME TO YANIKU !!!!
      4. Kostya pedestrian
        Kostya pedestrian 2 December 2012 15: 50
        +3
        Don't be so categorical. Such categories are "one size fits all" to Russia only to the detriment, and such demagoguery is not constructive.
        Our compatriots live in the USA, as well as former veterans and order bearers.

        Hatred or, perhaps, envy of the enemy does not lead to victory. The fact that there are young girls who were brainwashed by the former SS - sheep, or better put it, who eat their own people or, as Murphy's military law says, "attract fire in the neighboring trench," does not yet make the United States a fascist state.

        Even in the TASS press at one time, they talked about how innocent Negroes were beaten or workers were dismissed en masse, but did not express themselves as they do now.

        Once fascism won, so now we won’t win, we just need to seek support in the United States itself, and not burn bridges blaming all US citizens. But the pro-western-Krajina should have been put in place to show that the Tartar-Mongols had conquered Galitsy before, and the Lithuanians and Novgorodians have repeatedly told them who the boss is at home. Like these goats on their twisted legs to drive from the Baltic.
        1. igor36
          igor36 3 December 2012 16: 03
          +1
          no one repels the people of the United States or Ukraine, it is written about the government.
      5. atamura
        atamura 3 December 2012 18: 10
        +1
        Of course, I can understand and swallow that UWB, etc. against, but ... that Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova abstained ... it goes beyond my understanding! Shame on you! One disgust! Jackals! May God forgive me!
    2. baron.nn
      baron.nn 29 November 2012 09: 46
      +2
      YARY:
      Looking at some decisions of our authorities, one involuntarily comes to the conclusion: is it not a mishandled Cossack? In fact, the collapse of the country has not yet been completed, they again plan to carry out privatization ...
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 29 November 2012 10: 13
        +11
        Quote: BlackScorp
        it is a pity that Ukraine turned out to be in this company


        Not Ukraine, but the power of Ukraine. Different things, anyway.

        In general, a different alignment would be strange. No, dear ones, what did we want? "Baba Yaga" is against life! Everything is natural.
    3. Skiff
      Skiff 29 November 2012 10: 32
      +28
      Is anyone surprised?
      The U.S. intelligence agency hid dozens of Nazi war criminals and their accomplices from international justice, according to a six-page report by the U.S. Department of Justice. Otto von Bolshving was the most prominent war criminal with the CIA. This is an employee of the department of Adolf Eichmann, who was directly involved in the development of a plan to cleanse Germany from the Jews. Washington assisted von Bolshving in 1954, and von Bolshwing began working for the CIA. Among the Nazis sheltered by the CIA were other notable figures of the Third Reich. For example, Arthur Rudolph, who ran the Mittelwerk ammunition plant. In this position, he organized the use of forced labor of workers and prisoners of war stolen in Germany. The US authorities on this spot in the biography of Rudolph closed their eyes and brought him to America. After all, Rudolph knew a lot about the production of rockets. NASA marked his merit with an award. He is called the father of the Saturn 5 rocket.
      The old Nazis also have a lobby in the USA in the person of Latvian emigrants. They spoke out, in particular, in defense of the notorious Ivan Demyaniuk, accused of killing prisoners of the Treblinka camp. These emigrants got parts of the Ministry of Justice archives thrown out to the landfill regarding Demyaniuk. With the help of these documents, they are trying to achieve the justification of their ward, who is being tried in Munich for war crimes.
      The American authorities not only deliberately harbored Nazi criminals, but also used them against the USSR. The reason for addressing this topic was the death of the Nazi war criminal Peter Egner, and part-time US citizen involved in the destruction of 17 thousand people in the concentration camp Staro-Saimiste. He died last week at the age of 88, and was never punished for his crimes.
      You can go on and on, but it's no use SSHA control the world media and "truth" is on their side, sadly.
      1. Leisure
        Leisure 29 November 2012 11: 16
        +5
        The film "Ordinary Fascism" can be continued. Moreover, the tape has a good start on this topic.
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 29 November 2012 16: 58
        +2
        ss walks across the planet. they would have stuck the standard on the moon, next to the striped one. all of them are from the same "order" damned Teutons.
      3. lelikas
        lelikas 29 November 2012 17: 53
        +6
        Guess the country by photo :(
        1. tuts
          tuts 29 November 2012 22: 05
          +1
          I want to say about the speaker in the photo scum
        2. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 2 December 2012 23: 13
          +1
          American enthusiasm for neo-Nazism also takes on absolutely grotesque forms. In the photo of soldiers of the American army.
    4. Flooding
      Flooding 29 November 2012 11: 23
      +5
      Why three? Maybe it’s enough to adjust the activity of the courts and adjust the legislation?

      And this fascist trash was, is and will be. It is much more important to clean up in your home.
    5. itr
      itr 29 November 2012 12: 42
      +3
      What do you want! these democrats only abolished in law in the 60s
      separation of people by skin color
    6. NKVD
      NKVD 29 November 2012 13: 41
      +10
      Enough for Russia to whine and whine like a battered and offended little dog, it is high time to defend its interests in this middle-and-n-th world, tough, aggressive, and in some places despicable as others do. Foreign policy, like domestic policy, is not done in "white gloves" ...
      1. rate
        rate 29 November 2012 17: 13
        -5
        It is necessary to do as Sakharov wanted. Why then didn’t they listen to him?
        1. Kostya pedestrian
          Kostya pedestrian 2 December 2012 16: 15
          0
          How the Crimea from Russia, Belarusians to take away their original field swamps?
          It seems to me that Khrushchev was the reason for the delivery failure of the USSR’s hands, not to mention the fact that they don’t break the cult without thinking about people and their feelings - his time was - loosening the nuts and launching rockets.
      2. Algerd
        Algerd 29 November 2012 21: 04
        -11
        death scum of the NKVD, tormenting his people!
        Those at least someone else’s mochіlі! SS criminal organization, and the NKVD is clean type? іstorіyu pіshut pobedіtelі ..
        1. es.d
          es.d 30 November 2012 01: 29
          0
          Judging by you, sir, it was this edition of history that you taught.
    7. Deniska999
      Deniska999 29 November 2012 21: 05
      +1
      Here America reveals its true face! They are the direct descendants of the fascist regime, hiding under the mantle of democracy.
      1. snek
        snek 30 November 2012 01: 23
        -4
        and there is Orthodox fascism


        1. Kir
          Kir 30 November 2012 03: 11
          +1
          Well, first of all, not fascists. since we had like the only party that recognized itself as a fascist is Vasilyevskaya "MEMORY", and in the picture, if I am not mistaken, the Movement Against Illegal Migration, led by Potkin, at least it was like that with regards to the so-called Russian Nazis, I say on the basis of enough long communication with them, although I consider Nazism to be complete idiocy, in contrast to fascism, and so there is a rather motley "audience", sometimes such curious subjects came across that ...... one form, if I may say so, of some "divisions" is what the stripe on in English, typed in the Gothic font "Street Fighter", or belt badges with symbols of either Hitler Jurgent or SS, which were fashionable at one time among a part of this public, and by faith the same different ones profess Rodnoverie other Orthodoxy and how are the latter going to fight Zionism with themselves or what? Yes, and not only respect, but you can even say love for the West, but what is especially interesting for some of Britain, the one that is actually always in the enemies of Russia, and you say Russian fascism !!! Yes, and ethnically there is not even quite Aryans come across!
          And at the expense of the prohibitions of the swastika symbolism, which was spread as a symbol in many lands even BC. in particular, and gesture, just historical obscurantism, for they are all ripped off !!! Yes, and "Mein Kampf" is not forbidden, as well as all this kind of literature, but on the contrary, wow, you can familiarize yourself with it more widely, but with the supply of these works with voluminous historical research and not tendentious translation, so because by forbidding only they will drive the Idea underground, what will they create more more excitement.
          And yet there is no need to provoke the indigenous peoples, to which I include all the ethnic groups of Russia, for such actions either we are all equal, or you will get what you "want".
        2. Algerd
          Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 52
          0
          and what's bad at all?
        3. Kostya pedestrian
          Kostya pedestrian 2 December 2012 16: 19
          0
          Well done snack, here in vain some are minus. After all, fascism and Orthodoxy are incompatible, because fascism was a tool of the Roman, and therefore the Catholic Church, striving to capture the whole world. After all, ardent fshi ... or rather, nationalists are Greek Catholics, not ordinary Ukrainians. Here they are, and they are driving the wave, but when the wave turns around, then Baba Yaga will not help them.
          1. Kir
            Kir 2 December 2012 19: 28
            0
            You are right, and fascism is a product of Catalism, but it is by no means 100% Nazism identical, especially nationalism for professing Christianity in any form of schiz. for the very roots of Christianity, according to different versions of either from Judaism, are the most widespread and most likely correct line, the other points to identity with Greek kinism! In any case, if you do not twist the international !!!, and then there's the fight against Zionism, well, and how is this possible? Either you are a Christian with all those who stick out, or .......
            For that and minus snek
            By the way, here, in connection with fascism, I recall the story of the mosque, because how to remember B. Musolini did not refuse directly, but only asked if it seems possible to build a Catholic church in Mecca ... By the way, who is interested, maybe you should read the book of S. Lewis's phantasmagoria us it is not possible ", was published both separately and in the collected works.
    8. es.d
      es.d 1 December 2012 03: 47
      0
      http://www.un.org/en/ga/third/67/docs/voting_sheets/l.55.Rev.1.p
      Actually, the voting results.
      Ukraine has a good company. Almost the whole opa.
      Surprising Germany, where, for denying the Holocaust-article!
    9. kostello2004
      kostello2004 2 December 2012 19: 05
      -1
      ardent-you unprecedented troll
  2. 3030
    3030 29 November 2012 08: 24
    +12
    DEATH accomplices of fascism! DEATH to their henchmen Amer !!!
    1. scrabler
      scrabler 29 November 2012 09: 07
      +12
      What fascism ... This is a lack of intelligence, in my opinion. It’s interesting, but if the Nazis walked through the territory of the United States, how would these comrades, who are not comrades to us, sing? Tolerasts are bad. It's a shame that the foreign policy of the state greatly influences the adoption of such decisions, as a result, the country becomes something like a dog barking right and left, which does not know where to settle down (But politics is a dirty thing, so just say "I and my people consider like that, your opinion doesn’t f ... don’t bother us. Let's all go to the garden! "Not many can afford, or rather no one sad
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta 29 November 2012 11: 19
        -11
        if Hitler and Stalin united at one time, now there would be no Americans, not Anglo-Saxons, not Jews, not democracy, not dollars ... there would be world peace.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 November 2012 14: 31
          +9
          Quote: djon3volta
          if Hitler and Stalin united at one time, now there would be no Americans, not Anglo-Saxons, not Jews, not democracy, not dollars ... there would be world peace.

          You really are not friends with your head, even though you understood what nonsense you wrote. negative
          1. zadotov
            zadotov 29 November 2012 18: 05
            -10
            Well, why did you conclude the pact, and in Poland there was a joint parade and many more wonderful projects. Hitler even went to prison for communists at 23
            1. Curculum
              Curculum 30 November 2012 00: 21
              +7
              Quote:
              The pact was concluded, and in Poland there was a joint parade and many more wonderful projects. Hitler even went to prison for 23 Communists

              1. On July 8, 1933, the Catholic Church and the Third Reich entered into an agreement, the so-called "Concordat of the Empire." According to him, Catholics "henceforth unconditionally had to serve the National Socialist state." Bells rang in honor of concordat at St. Peter's Basilica.
              2. Non-aggression treaty between Germany and Poland, concluded between Germany and Poland on January 26, 1934.
              3. The Anglo-German maritime agreement was concluded on June 18, 1935 in the form of an exchange of letters between the British Minister of Foreign Affairs S. Choir and the Special Commissioner of A. Hitler J. Ribbentrop.
              4. November 25, 1936 in Berlin - the signing of the Anti-Comintern Pact between Germany and Japan.
              5. The Munich Agreement of 1938, drawn up in Munich on September 29, 1938 and signed on September 30 of the same year by British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, French Prime Minister Edouard Daladier, German Chancellor Adolf Hitler and Italian Prime Minister Benito Mussolini. The agreement concerned the transfer by Czechoslovakia of Germany to the Sudetenland.
              6. The conclusion of the triple alliance of Germany, Italy and Japan in 1940
              etc. etc.
              1. zadotov
                zadotov 3 December 2012 10: 33
                +1
                I didn’t understand anything, some pieces from *** pedia
          2. Su24
            Su24 2 December 2012 11: 01
            -2
            You didn’t understand what you objected to.
        2. Armata
          Armata 29 November 2012 18: 58
          +3
          Well, you ............. negative fool Think if there is anything.
        3. Su24
          Su24 2 December 2012 11: 01
          -1
          Geopolitically perfectly true. But for this, another National Socialism and another German leadership were needed.
          Those who do not approve of such an idea are simply narrow-minded people, tk. do not understand that in this case there was no extermination of peoples, "death camps", "final solution of the Jewish question", an attack on Russia, but there would be a huge Eurasian geopolitical structure, the Berlin-Moscow-Tokyo axis, which would have broken the back of the Antlantist hydra.
        4. Temer
          Temer 2 December 2012 16: 06
          +1
          and there would be no Slavic, Caucasian and other peoples. And if they were, then on the rights of slaves.
        5. berserk1967
          berserk1967 4 December 2012 01: 17
          0
          Yeah, and the whole world behind barbed wire. Who gave the voice - to the crematorium.
          Do you want this? Then you have a place in the mental hospital.
  3. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 29 November 2012 08: 25
    +17
    The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution condemning the glorification of Nazism, the United States and Canada voted against, AND WHY IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 November 2012 08: 33
      +16
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      USA and Canada voted "no" AND WHY IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME!

      Well, everything is clear with these, but the countries of the European Union, which tasted all the "charm" of Nazism, abstained, you can go nuts. And it's not a shame in front of their own veterans who fought against fascism. Human memory is too short, I feel soon we will have to set our brains in Europe again and the rest with them. Good article, many answers to many questions. Thanks to the author. drinks
      1. YARY
        YARY 29 November 2012 08: 46
        +6
        Alexander-
        not ashamed of their own veterans who fought against fascism.

        Of course you are in the courses that the foski banned such a word as "Poland"? For the mention-execution.
        Who freed Poland?
        How does Poland relate to Russia?
        Although there was a "Polish Army", but this is a drop in the ocean, and everything is already dead!
        Time and propaganda work miracles. And the toothless policy of the "winner" And the traitors and thieves inside the country help in this.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 November 2012 08: 51
          +6
          Quote: Ardent
          Time and propaganda work wonders.

          I agree with the schoolchildren and students of this day, but those who are now 40 or more are doing the prapoganda, they know very well what Poland was faced with at that time. They studied by textbooks and their fathers and mothers were personally confronted with fascism. knowing the truth and understanding what Nazism is, they hang noodles on the ears of youth. They deliberately hang them.
          1. YARY
            YARY 29 November 2012 09: 01
            +5
            Think about Solidarity in Gdansk, and believe me, I know what I say, there were workers and even war veterans "VP" but what happened happened.
            A person "over the hill" of our homeland is especially weak and hungry. Well, the CIA knows how to warm up greed (and any weakness of a person) and direct it in the right direction.
      2. Alx1miK
        Alx1miK 30 November 2012 14: 54
        +1
        Europe needs to be injected with brains every 50 years. Otherwise there will be "tolerance", "pederastiya" "Heil Obama" and many other things.
        1. igor36
          igor36 3 December 2012 16: 10
          +1
          with their tolerance in 20 years there will be one European emirate
    2. Sergh
      Sergh 29 November 2012 08: 48
      +6
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      AND WHY ME DOES NOT SURPRISE IT!

      Well, yes, the question was posed with an edge. Like, tell everyone here who is with us and who is against us ?! The answer is clear, everything fell into place, although it has long been known, here only the historical fact with the photographer was documented.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 29 November 2012 08: 52
        +2
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        AND WHY ME DOES NOT SURPRISE IT!


        Yes, this does not surprise anyone.
    3. andrei. 2012
      andrei. 2012 29 November 2012 09: 16
      +2
      Probably because in World War II, before the opening of the 2nd Front, caravans (for gold) went not only to the Soviet Union but also to Germany.
      The Japanese gave them a little light in Pearl Harbor, they forgot already.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 29 November 2012 09: 28
        +2
        Quote: andrei.2012
        The Japanese gave them a little light in Pearl Harbor, they forgot already.


        And it all ended on August 6th. I don’t understand Japan at all. After Hiroshima, they are almost the best friends from the United States.
        1. alexng
          alexng 29 November 2012 10: 14
          +3
          Who pays then the girl dances. It has always been so, and reality will cease to be so, only when the era of the golden calf ends.
        2. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 29 November 2012 10: 16
          +2
          Well, the Japanese are still those protections from politics. They fought in World War I on the side of the Entente (often together with ours), otkhapali German colonies in the Pacific Ocean, and then, as if nothing had happened, rushed to be friends with them. And nothing, never hiccuped.
          1. Su24
            Su24 2 December 2012 11: 04
            -1
            Well done right, what's wrong?
      2. xoma58
        xoma58 29 November 2012 13: 36
        0
        And the Germans are in the Ardennes.
  4. omsbon
    omsbon 29 November 2012 08: 35
    +7
    .Not surprised!
    All these spratolands, proud cheburechniks and other zadolizs of amers did not surprise this their essence.
    SURPRISED BY UKRAINE! Surprised by the position of patronage in a seemingly unambiguous question.
    Why and to whom are you rolling, Slav brothers?
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 29 November 2012 08: 49
      +5
      Quote: omsbon
      SURPRISED UKRAINE


      Honestly, I’m more interested in the position of Israel. In 2009, our countries on this issue were shoulder to shoulder. After that, Yushchenko organized a cycling marathon in honor of the leader of the OUN, Stepan Bandera (dated August 7, 2009), the Poles did not let them in, the Germans condemned them, and Yushchenko shouted
      1. urzul
        urzul 29 November 2012 09: 28
        +7
        Among the supporters of the resolution on the Russian draft are the CIS countries, with the exception of the abstentions Ukraine and Moldova, while Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan were among the 25 co-sponsors of the resolution.

        Among the co-authors were also Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Iraq, South Africa, Angola and several other countries. Among other countries such countries as China, India, Indonesia, Argentina, Mexico, Brazil, Serbia, Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia voted for this document.
      2. Dimon simfer
        Dimon simfer 29 November 2012 19: 12
        +7
        Quote: Vadivak
        After that, Yushchenko organized a cycling marathon in honor of the leader of the OUN, Stepan Bandera (dated August 7, 2009), the Poles did not let them in, the Germans condemned them, and Yushchenko shouted

        With the coming to power of this beaten fagot, these "heroes" became more active in Ukraine. Personally, it hurts me deeply for Ukraine.
        oone upa leaflets agitation ss galicia nachtigal roland.
    2. yllo
      yllo 29 November 2012 09: 14
      -21
      Ukraine, of course, is not going through the best of times and is divided into parts (according to political views), but I think I’m lying somewhere in the Lvov region, Caucasians shoot in the streets and feel at home, I’m not talking about Uzbeks, Chinese and many others ... In Russia, Russians will soon will live on reservations and force cramming CARAN
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 29 November 2012 10: 17
        +2
        Quote: yllo
        In Russia, Russians will soon live on reservations and force cramming KARAN


        Do not overdo it
        1. Abel
          Abel 29 November 2012 14: 25
          +2
          But you are not worried about how, at every corner, wave statistics on fertility in Russia? Only now the birth rate is not specified either by nationality or even by citizenship .. But the level has grown! Definitely grown!
          1. Algerd
            Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 57
            -1
            birth rate for nat. composition is not a secret ішіте і will find.
        2. Algerd
          Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 56
          -2
          Already learned?
        3. yllo
          yllo 11 December 2012 10: 40
          0
          That is, you think that Muslims praying on the streets of Moscow, because of which they block the streets and residents of nearby houses cannot go to their porch, is this normal?
          That's the fact that in Grozny, girls walking down the street in skirts below the knee are fired from a paintball gun - this is normal. Because in Grozny the majority of the indigenous population is Muslim. And for girls who want to dress to their taste, and not in burqa, do not fuck there.

          These are harsh but adequate realities. And why Buddhists do not go around Moscow with a swastika on posters, and yet this is their religious symbol.

          In your opinion, is it normal when wedding processions shoot on the streets of Moscow? Custom? no problem - follow your customs in your village.

          No, I do not overdo it or even exaggerate. In 30 years, if the situation does not change, we will live in a Muslim country.
      2. Rebus
        Rebus 29 November 2012 11: 32
        +9
        Quote: yllo
        .In Russia, Russians will soon live on reservations and force to cram CARAN

        In my city and its environs, the reverse trend is that many Turks and other Muslims live in neighboring villages, but I have not seen or heard that they would have built at least one mosque, but Orthodox churches are being built (over the past 10 years, 3 were built only in Volgodonsk), Caucasians Do not shoot in the streets. You nonsense inspired by swamp sites and zomboyaschikom write.
        And as for Ukraine, their national heroes are fascists such as Bender and other UNA UNSO, to accept this resolution is to rewrite history again, rename the streets and recognize that Ukraine was an artificial formation and that being in the Russian Empire and the USSR was not an occupation ...
        1. Nord007hold
          Nord007hold 29 November 2012 18: 37
          -1
          Quote: Rebus
          Ukraine is an artificial entity and that being in the Russian Empire and the USSR was not an occupation ...


          I'm just wondering by what criteria YOU define "artificial" formation of this or that state or not. And then in words you can say anything.
          1. Rebus
            Rebus 29 November 2012 20: 08
            +9
            Quote: Nord007hold
            I'm just wondering by what criteria YOU define "artificial" formation of this or that state or not. And then in words you can say anything.

            A simple definition:
            Every state and every nation created by an external project is artificial, since it has no historical justification. Here are a few national government entities that are artificial:
            Israel - created by decision of the UN, the official language adopted Hebrew dead at that time, Wikipedia says
            The language, which was considered dead during the 18 centuries, becomes the language of everyday communication, the state language of the State of Israel. This was made possible thanks to the efforts of a number of enthusiasts, the most famous of which is Eliezer Ben Yehuda.


            Romania - was created by the decision of the Berlin Congress in 1878 in opposition to the creation of Bulgaria. Initially, there was no nationality "Romanians", in that territory mainly Slavs and Vlachs lived, at one time the main written and state language in Wallachia was Church Slavic (South Slavic) language, which was later supplanted by Wallachian, which was slightly reworked in the XNUMXth century and called Romanian.

            Ukraine - created on the basis of the Belovezhskaya agreements (under the obvious influence of the West), there were Austro - Hungarian, German, English projects called "Ukraine", the name of the language was invented by the Bolsheviks. Until the middle of the XNUMXth century, the Ukrainian language, as well as Belarusian, in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was called according to the terminology of that time "Russian language", in the Russian Empire the Ukrainian language was called the Little Russian dialect of the Russian language ", in modern Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian philology, the name West Russian is used for this language (all data is written in the liberal wikipedia).

            I don't even want to write about the "states" of the Baltic states. But the fact is, in all such states, Nazism becomes almost a state ideology ...
            1. Algerd
              Algerd 30 November 2012 21: 45
              -7
              all mixed up and the ideology of the Nazis and all kinds of agreements! You, my friend, are clearly underestimated with your shrewd mind! Is it in parliament already?
              the link to such bullshit as Vіkіpedіya was especially laughable)) із it only essays to yearn schoolchildren. you layman, old man! To you -
          2. Algerd
            Algerd 30 November 2012 21: 41
            -4
            The Russian Empire and the USSR, there are artificial formations
            1. DimYang
              DimYang 1 December 2012 21: 47
              +2
              Quote: Algerd
              The Russian Empire and the USSR, there are artificial formations


              But you are in vain.
          3. DimYang
            DimYang 1 December 2012 21: 46
            -1
            Quote: Nord007hold
            I'm just wondering by what criteria YOU define "artificial" formation of this or that state or not. And then in words you can say anything.

            There was such a German - Catherine 2. Thanks to her.
          4. berserk1967
            berserk1967 4 December 2012 01: 23
            +1
            Only Ukraine, as a state entity, was first created by the Bolsheviks.
          5. Eugene
            Eugene 4 December 2012 19: 19
            +2
            A stupid discussion, of course, but the fact that Ukraine under the damned Stalin has increased its territory by six times cannot be denied. Six times !!! Damn it, this communist !! Sala to Ukraine !!! Heroam Sala !!!
      3. Town Guard
        Town Guard 29 November 2012 12: 30
        +9
        Quote: yllo
        Ukraine, of course, is not going through the best of times and is divided into parts (according to political views), but I think I’m lying somewhere in the Lvov region, Caucasians shoot in the streets and feel at home, I’m not talking about Uzbeks, Chinese and many others ... In Russia, Russians will soon will live on reservations and force cramming CARAN

        I would like to clarify the issue from an unexpected perspective. Calmness in Lviv is not the merit of Ukrainian nationalists (in fact, Russia also has its own nationalists). And the fact that migrant workers go to earn money in Russia. When in Ukraine there will be the same wealth and will go there millions of migrant workers, then we'll see if there will be order.
      4. Curculum
        Curculum 30 November 2012 00: 29
        +3
        Quote: yllo
        In Russia, Russians will soon live on reservations and force cramming KARAN

        But don’t behave like an amoeba: you are used for as much as you yourself allow.
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 30 November 2012 00: 37
          +2
          Noted correctly! Both in relation to the State and its leaders, and in relation to each of the citizens of the state.
      5. Algerd
        Algerd 30 November 2012 19: 56
        -4
        what kind of clowns minus everything! it says that these people are living in a pink world and don’t want to see and take out anything negative that goes to the end of them — limited in scope!
        all of you are correct, I shouldn’t negate and make sure that everything is in a beam, but do something else more effective. to you +, and let those red-faced old-timers go into the hollow!
        1. berserk1967
          berserk1967 4 December 2012 01: 31
          0
          And you are right one, and all the rest, and the absolute majority, do not understand anything in this life type?
          And by the way, you have the emblem of Belarusian traitors who helped the Nazis destroy their own people at the time.
          1. yllo
            yllo 4 June 2013 16: 59
            0
            At one time, most people thought that the earth was flat and could fall from it.
      6. The comment was deleted.
        1. yllo
          yllo 5 June 2013 10: 38
          0
          WHAT WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
    3. Dimon simfer
      Dimon simfer 29 November 2012 18: 53
      +6
      Quote: omsbon
      Why and to whom are you rolling, Slav brothers?

      No need to generalize. A bunch of our spineless politicians, who have only thoughts of their own enrichment in their brains and the next tranches of the IMF, are not our brothers.
    4. Eugene
      Eugene 4 December 2012 19: 13
      +1
      Many people in Ukraine are surprised by our president. Maybe he was thrown off by parachute from Mars?
  5. volcano
    volcano 29 November 2012 08: 40
    +7
    What did we want

    The new Fascists absolutely do not want to condemn the OLD.

    Yes, and we must be realistic .. Together with Germany fought the European ...

    It was we who instilled in ourselves the idea that we were at war with Fascist Germany, but actually .... I advise everyone who does not know to see ......
    1. xoma58
      xoma58 29 November 2012 13: 39
      +2
      Yes, not half of Europe. and almost all, the USSR put the whole of Europe on a stick.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 29 November 2012 19: 17
        +3
        The USSR put all of Europe in good shape.

        If Stalin had not been seduced by the persuasion of the Church, when the Anglo-American landing was rolled out by the Germans in the Ardennes (we had to wait two-three-four months) ...
        1. Beck
          Beck 29 November 2012 20: 28
          -6
          Quote: PSih2097
          when the Anglo-American landing was rolled out by the Germans in the Ardennes (it was necessary to wait two, three, four months) ...


          And what happened? What would the Americans and British in Lamans would have thrown off? The Ardennes operation is Hitler’s stupidity, opposed by his generals. You need to know the history deeper. Yes, the Soviet troops helped to some extent by launching their offensive a week earlier.

          But adventure is adventure. After two weeks of fighting, fuel for German tanks began to end. Mongomeri and Patton from the north and south hit the base of the breakthrough and by the third week the German troops somehow managed to withdraw the remnants of their troops from the planned boiler.
  6. Forest
    Forest 29 November 2012 08: 55
    +10
    We must remember why American business circles raised Hitler to take over Russia when Trotsky-Bronstein's plan to seize power failed. And if American politics does not condemn fascism, it is clearly preparing for its second parish, all that remains is to calculate their purpose.
    1. volcano
      volcano 29 November 2012 10: 08
      +2
      Quote: Forest
      it remains only to calculate their purpose


      Also a charade to me

      And what are the other options?
    2. zadotov
      zadotov 29 November 2012 10: 31
      -11
      This is not true. Stalin helped fascism in preparing the war much more than all other countries, even the fascist bloc, except Romania, of course, with its oil. Starting from training the military and engineers to supplying strategic resources. He wanted to cover Europe with a blanket of communism under the guise of a European fire. But don't forget Trotsky (the Comintern) lived, although it was disguised before the war.
      1. Nord007hold
        Nord007hold 29 November 2012 18: 41
        -3
        For the umpteenth time I notice that they are minus here not on the basis of the usefulness of the comment. and guided only by emotions. That's the same with the comment
        "ass". If only they asked about it first, and not cut it off hotly.
      2. Eugene
        Eugene 4 December 2012 19: 23
        +2
        Read less Suvorov. Dear. I know your audience.
        1. Nord007hold
          Nord007hold 5 December 2012 03: 43
          0
          Quote: eugene
          Stalin helped fascism in the preparation of the war much more than all other countries, even the fascist bloc
          - Before you put the minuses, read the literature at least. The rather close ties of the USSR and Germany before the start of WWII (economic and political) were subsequently hidden for ideological purposes.

          Quote:
          He wanted to cover Europe with a blanket of communism under the guise of a European fire.
          - I won’t say anything here because I don’t know.
  7. vladimirZ
    vladimirZ 29 November 2012 08: 56
    +10
    Evidently they want to fasten Nazism to the Russian communist regime of the USSR since the time of I.V. Stalin and then vote. Indeed, according to their concepts, they are the USA and their allies, incl. Canada, won World War II by dropping atomic bombs on Japan.
    What can you do Yankees suffer from megalomania, especially now that in the "cold war" - the 3rd World War, they prevailed over the USSR.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 29 November 2012 09: 20
      +13
      Quote: vladimirZ
      Evidently they want to fasten Nazism to the Russian communist regime of the USSR since the time of I.V. Stalin and then vote


      The position of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
      We, like most countries participating in the anti-Hitler coalition, which also did not support this document, advocate a more balanced approach to the sensitive issues of history. Wherein Ukrainian state clearly opposes attempts to glorify Nazism, as well as Stalinism
      "Some foreign politicians would like to equate to Nazism accomplices those who in extremely difficult historical conditions fought for the freedom and independence of Ukraine. Ukrainian society does not accept such simplistic approaches "

      referred to in comments Head of the Information Policy Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Oleg Voloshin.
      Europeans position explained the representative of Norway.
      According to him, precisely lack of ability to speak freely on exciting topics pushed Anders Breivik to commit a terrorist attack. A similar opinion was expressed by the Americans. From the point of view of the United States, resolution violates the principle of freedom of speech. And combating racism with prohibitive methods is impossible
      Tolerance, you know ...
      Why? - Time is this: EVERYTHING IS MANIFESTING, AND YOU WILL NOT HAND ANYTHING - everything climbs inside, as if from cracks.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 November 2012 09: 38
        +4
        Quote: Ascetic
        Ukrainian society does not accept such simplistic approaches "

        And the Foreign Ministry of Ukraine asked its society what it accepts and what does not. The most heinous profession is a politician. If you are a liar and a hypocrite, you’ll get into politics hi
      2. YARY
        YARY 2 December 2012 00: 09
        +1
        Uv Stanislav
        Question rib-And then what?
        Where is the Russian Foreign Ministry?
        Where are the political and economic sanctions?
        I believe that the toothless silence of the state is the worst betrayal!
        The enemy revealed his face but, traitors and internal enemies of the people, silent evil!
    2. volcano
      volcano 29 November 2012 10: 10
      +2
      Quote: vladimirZ
      Evidently they want to fasten Nazism to the Russian communist regime of the USSR since the time of I.V. Stalin and then vote


      Well, actually, the European Union has already done this ... By officially announcing that it is GUILTY to the degree of incitement of the USSR’s WWII with Fascist Germany
  8. Vanek
    Vanek 29 November 2012 09: 26
    +2
    Guys, explain, please.

    Well, maybe I don’t understand something. Well, look, they (the allies) are tripping that they won the Second World War, right? I think, well, high with them. The main thing is that we in the Great Patriotic War came out victorious. But the Second World War and the Great Patriotic War are two different things.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 29 November 2012 09: 33
      +17
      Quote: Vanek
      But the Second World War and the Great Patriotic War are two different things.

      But if we had not won the Great Patriotic War, then the Second World USA and others like them would not have won. The Germans would have occupied England and the United States reconciled with the Nazis.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 29 November 2012 10: 32
        +9
        Quote: Vanek
        But the Second World War and the Great Patriotic War are two different things.


        World War II can be divided into several stages:

        1. 01.09.1939 - 22.06.1941. Hitler began his business, England and France were in shit. Lacked in Europe, Africa, and the Pacific from the Japanese.

        2. 22.06.1941 - 31.12.1943. Hitler made a mistake, got on us. Japan made a mistake, climbed onto the States. At first, everything went unhappily among the mountain warriors, then there were Stalingrad, El Alamein and Midway. Tipping points here and there.

        3. 1.01.1944 - 9.05.1945. In fact, they stomped both Germans and Japanese before hanging on the hut and in the hut to the Germans. We. Soyuznichki cleaned the dead boots. The Great Patriotic War is over.

        4. 9.05.1945 - 6.09.1945. The United States overtook Japan with the help of the USSR and atomic bombs; World War II ended.

        Here is a summary in a purely Amerian way. We fought in Europe (States in Italy at a dance), in Africa, the British drove Rommel, in the Pacific, the US + ANZAC team slaughtered with Japan.

        So our participation in the Second World War is an indisputable fact, if only because ours were attacked by the Japanese only after we were strongly (once again) asked. Here is a vision.
        1. xoma58
          xoma58 29 November 2012 13: 48
          +4
          I think that if it were not for Stalingrad, then there would be no El-Alamein and everything else. The Germans and the British would simply grind amers into powder. And in Africa, Romel drove the Anlo-Saxons with a wet towel, and not vice versa. And he lost only because he was left without resources, which at that time "ate" the eastern front.
        2. Victor
          Victor 29 November 2012 18: 53
          +4
          Quote: Banshee
          So our participation in the Second World War is an indisputable fact, if only because ours were attacked by the Japanese only after we were strongly (once again) asked. Here is a vision.

          Hello Roman! Glad to see you, too, they rarely began to appear, like many of those who started at VO. A clear and concrete analysis of the periods of the Second World War. Respect.
          As a matter of fact, the masks are completely reset, a new round of the spiral of history has begun (the thirties of the last century at a new level). The recognition by states of the right of fascism to life, in fact, the beginning of the third world with the goal of a global redivision of the world, and we, in this world of theirs, will have no place. We are different, we are Scythians. Well, let them come!
          1. Beck
            Beck 29 November 2012 20: 09
            -7
            Quote: Victor
            The recognition by states of the right of fascism to life,


            Please show me the point in the resolution on which you judge that the United States recognized fascism?

            The USA did not vote for the resolution, but this in no way says that the USA is for the revival of fascism. Any normal state, and there are no fascist states, will oppose fascism. Because fascism was condemned by the international Nuremberg tribunal, which included the USSR, USA, Britain, France. Most likely the United States did not agree with any point.

            And the author only condemns the unknown to us. There will be a resolution, there will be points then and it will talk about what.
      2. Bigriver
        Bigriver 29 November 2012 12: 34
        +8
        lewerlin53rus
        They are kindred spiritually.

        Absolutely in the hole! America only upgraded the ideology of fascism.

        Here are just a few signs of American fascism:
        1. Nazi slogan: "America above all!"
        2. The selection of states according to the principle: if America is a satellite and you have a subordinate policy - your own, no - your enemy.
        3. Unleashing wars against America-uncontrolled enemy states.
        4. Goebbel's propaganda according to the principle "A lie, repeated a thousand times, becomes the truth."
        5. Seizure of foreign territories and assets for the existence of the American "welfare society".
        6. The killing of huge numbers of civilians around the world.

        America is a state not reformed. Another ideology will come to this country only with the complete collapse of the existing one.
        1. Sanches
          Sanches 30 November 2012 06: 27
          +2
          BigRiver Yesterday, 12:34 ↑ ↓ new 5
          They are kindred spiritually.

          Absolutely in the hole! America only upgraded the ideology of fascism.

          Here are just a few signs of American fascism:
          1. Nazi slogan: "America above all!"
          2. The selection of states according to the principle: if America is a satellite and you have a subordinate policy - your own, no - your enemy.
          3. Unleashing wars against America-uncontrolled enemy states.
          4. Goebbel's propaganda according to the principle "A lie, repeated a thousand times, becomes the truth."
          5. Seizure of foreign territories and assets for the existence of the American "welfare society".
          6. The killing of huge numbers of civilians around the world.
          Everything is so, but it’s the other way around. Hitler upgraded the Ku Klux Klan idea, which was formed back in the XNUMXth century. And that was only because there were almost no blacks in Germany, but there were many Jews. Modern Nazis in the USA, Russia, the Baltics, Western Europe and elsewhere are not followers of Hitler, but there are illiterate, tongue-tied Ku Klux Klanists, devoured by hatred, who consider the lynching courts to be the highest form of justice. In general, in the modern world they use the word "Nazis", it is more difficult to pronounce "Ku-Klux-Klanists", and the image has already merged with Hitler's Germany))))) Another thing is "signs of American fascism" - these are the ambitions of a healthy Empire inherent and Britain at its best, centuries before Hitler was born, and really have nothing to do with Nazism. In any case, accusing these states of Nazism is the same as accusing capitalism, an old propaganda trick worn to holes. They are our enemies, their government hates us, and sooner or later we will look at each other through the crosshairs, but it is not necessary to put on the clothes of a movement that has a much greater degree of influence on the lower classes than the upper ones.
          1. Bigriver
            Bigriver 30 November 2012 08: 52
            +1
            Sanches
            ... on the contrary, Hitler upgraded the idea of ​​the Ku Klux Klan, formed in the XNUMXth century ...

            The Germans did not have a special need, someone had to rub something.
            The song of the Germans, beginning with the words "Germany, Germany above all, above all in the world ...", dates back to the middle of the XNUMXth century. And at the end of the same century, it becomes the national anthem. And, approximately from this time, the foreign policy of the new state becomes aggressive, focused on external expansion and the implementation of the idea of ​​"Your place in the sun".
            Adolf brought this idea to the limit. But then Versailles contributed to him following the results of the 1st World War.
            Strongly, yet the Germans were humiliated.
            1. Sanches
              Sanches 30 November 2012 11: 30
              +1
              Again, this is an anthem of the Empire that has nothing to do with the doctrine of Nazism-Ku-Klux Klan to kill people on the streets according to racial / national differences
              1. Bigriver
                Bigriver 30 November 2012 16: 01
                0
                Sanches
                Again, this is an anthem of the Empire that has nothing to do with the doctrine of Nazism-Ku-Klux Klan to kill people on the streets according to racial / national differences

                Explain, did not understand a fig :( What is the thesis?
          2. es.d
            es.d 3 December 2012 17: 37
            +1
            Bravo!
            The only clarification is using the word "fascism", usually in the context of "Russian fascism".
            This is a primitive substitution of concepts. But, it works, alas.
            In my opinion, in the memoirs from Schmidt (from the environment of Paulus), slipped ...
            No, I’ll try in my own words, he was CALLED by a fascist (captive) -I am an honest national socialist, and I have nothing to do with this fascist scum!
            Nationalsocialist worker the consignment.
            Our propaganda, too, worked. Who are we fighting with? with socialism? with workers?
            [hide] [/ hide] In general, in the modern world they use the word "Nazis"
            1. Nord007hold
              Nord007hold 5 December 2012 03: 52
              +3
              The word "fascism" is essentially an ideologeme, that is, when it sounds, it evokes strong emotions in people, but does not really reflect the essence.
              For example: this word was first used back in the 20s (!) By the Soviet mass media in relation to the Western capitalist countries, later to the Franco regimes in Spain and Mussolini in Italy which had little in common with the ideas of German Nazism.
            2. Sanches
              Sanches 8 December 2012 11: 04
              0
              es.d 3 December 2012 17: 37
              National Socialist Workers Party.
              Our propaganda, too, worked. Who are we fighting with? with socialism? with workers?
              In general, in the modern world they use the word "Nazis"
              despite the word "-socialist", it has nothing in common with Soviet socialism, Soviet and Nazi ideologies are opposed in almost every part of them (compare, for example, the attitude to the role of personality or nationality, in addition, Hitler made one of the forms of the cross used early Christians, enterprises were left to the capitalists, recognized the primacy of the aristocracy), and even capitalism and communism are closer and less hostile to each other than these two ideologies. Yes, here is the actual ideology of the NSDAP:
              national socialism, nationalism, pan-Germanism, racism, anti-Semitism, anti-communism

              Taschemto the name is slightly borrowed from the Christian Socialist Party, founded by Hitler's idol Dr. Karl Luger, a well-known anti-Semite. It seems to me that the early Christian swastika migrated from this party along with part of the name, although this is only a guess
  9. Samovar
    Samovar 29 November 2012 09: 38
    0
    how could the state, on the territory of which during the times of the Great Patriotic War the people endured the hardest tests, faced with the fascist plague, not support the resolution

    Apparently more than 6 million lives are not enough for them to realize the criminality of their cowardly silence.
    voting “against” the provisions of a resolution condemning the glorification of Nazism is a litmus test for the United States

    The USA is the 4th Reich; for the full set, Romney as president is not enough for them, and the flag is in the photo.
  10. andreirib
    andreirib 29 November 2012 09: 54
    +1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHAk-3eZI-w&playnext=1&list=PL2087F0D6792C9F22&fe
    ature = results_main
  11. Dimon Lviv
    Dimon Lviv 29 November 2012 10: 06
    0
    But the Second World War and the Great Patriotic War are two different things.
    - Could you explain your point of view in more detail?
    This is how they differ?
    1. zadotov
      zadotov 29 November 2012 10: 44
      0
      The world war began after the partition of Poland by the USSR and the German bloc in September 39. And the Second World War in June 41 with an attack on the Fatherland
  12. Averias
    Averias 29 November 2012 10: 25
    +3
    They adopted the resolution, and then what? The states openly put on this resolution with the instrument. And what does this resolution give, will there be sanctions against states that encourage fascism or will impose an embargo (it is interesting to look at the Balts if an embargo is applied to them, but it is not clear what the embargo is for, they have nothing)? I wonder how Israel reacted to the fact that their first and most "loyal" friend of the United States, voted against? Yes, apparently in no way, modern Israel deeply on the sneeze, fascism only in order to show how "unfortunate" they are, in order to receive compensation from Germany (and they paid more than Germany paid us). The fact that 51 countries did not say anything at all, it is not surprising that some African "banana" republic has no idea who Hitler and fascism are. They need it, they live like they lived in a feudal era, in complete anarchy (who has more trunks and rights) and live. But the fact that Europe is behaving so disgustingly is sad, it is bestial, because in their families there are those who suffered from fascism. Eh ma, where is the world heading?
    1. berserk1967
      berserk1967 4 December 2012 01: 59
      +4
      This can be explained only by one, the descendants of those who fought against fascism in Europe became less than those who fought for Hitler.
      But on the side of fascist Germany were:
      - Bendery of Ukraine;
      - Vichy France;
      - Franco Spain (blue division)
      - Croatian Ustashi
      - Khorty Hungary
      - Romania
      -profascist Bulgarian kingdom
      - fascia Italy
      - Salazarovo Portugal.
      And also whole divisions of the Waffen SS from various occupied countries: Danes, Dutch, Norwegians, etc.
      But they destroyed their opponents in concentration camps by millions. So it turns out that the descendants of these criminals now live more.
      Well, and how can you not heroize your grandfathers and fathers.
  13. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 29 November 2012 10: 26
    -5
    As they say, they didn’t read it, but we already condemn it - and not for the first time ...
    The article was written to "incite yet another anger of the masses", in particular, against the seemingly fraternal people of Ukraine ...
    Well, and where without the usual oppressed Indians ...
    And there wasn’t, and there isn’t a normal analysis of why the seemingly bad resolution failed.
    1. Samovar
      Samovar 29 November 2012 11: 08
      +3
      Quote: Brother Sarych
      The article was written to "incite yet another anger of the masses", in particular, against the seemingly fraternal people of Ukraine

      To the leadership of Ukraine, not the people. Ordinary people have nothing to do with it.
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 29 November 2012 11: 28
      +3
      Quote: Brother Sarich
      The article was written to "incite yet another anger of the masses", in particular, against the seemingly fraternal people of Ukraine ...
      Well, and where without the usual oppressed Indians ...
      And there wasn’t, and there isn’t a normal analysis of why the seemingly bad resolution failed.

      - I did not find a word about the fraternal people
      - Indians, indeed, could not be mentioned
      - resolution ADOPTED
      1. Brother Sarych
        Brother Sarych 29 November 2012 12: 06
        +2
        The Indians distracted - they paid too much attention to them, so it slipped through that the resolution had nevertheless been adopted ...
        Then in general it becomes incomprehensible, because of which they began to drive the wave ...
        About Ukraine-like separate the people from the state and government? The people themselves, and the state and power in themselves - this, in fact, does not happen ...
  14. andreirib
    andreirib 29 November 2012 10: 37
    +1
    http://www.mignews.com/news/society/world/281112_172843_18755.html
  15. Wertynskiy
    Wertynskiy 29 November 2012 10: 45
    +4
    American representatives trumpet at all angles that it is the United States that is the main state in the world that won the Second World War, but now, as it turns out, the “winners” do not see anything reprehensible in what they fought against in the 40s of the last century

    There is nothing to be surprised at. This USSR fought against fascist occupiers from all over Europe, therefore we have a negative attitude towards fascism in the blood. But the Americans if Stalin had not dragged him by the collar into this war, then they would have stayed and earned a lot of money on the supply of equipment and machinery.
  16. Serg_Y
    Serg_Y 29 November 2012 11: 00
    +3
    Yes, the time will come when they will say that they stopped the plague of communism with the hands of noble fascism. It’s necessary to cover up the reasons for financing.
  17. andreirib
    andreirib 29 November 2012 11: 08
    +1
    http://www.zman.com/news/2012/11/29/139950.html
  18. JonnyT
    JonnyT 29 November 2012 11: 21
    +2
    Actually, I’m not surprised, they nurtured Hitler like a chick and taught them to fly. The true birthplace of fascism is the United States. It is a pity that in 45 they did not finish the reptile !!!!!
  19. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 29 November 2012 11: 55
    +1
    I’m expecting something to happen to Ukraine soon, it’s become completely insane ...
  20. The cat
    The cat 29 November 2012 12: 23
    +1
    Give someone a reference to the text of the resolution. And then, as Brother Sarych correctly remarked, you are discussing what no one has read. As in the joke "Rabinovich sang for me".
  21. igor12
    igor12 29 November 2012 13: 24
    +3
    The Americans themselves sheltered the Nazis at the time. Yes, they probably didn’t mind that there were 3 Reichs in the United States. They even waited at the same time, who would start to win for that and we would intercede. Are they not fascists? When their president receives a peace prize, and gives orders for the supply of weapons to terrorists in Syria, destroys the state of Libya, in my opinion they are the most natural Fascists !!!
  22. VadimSt
    VadimSt 29 November 2012 14: 52
    +3
    On the one hand, it is surprising, and on the other, the position of the Ukrainian delegation, which decided to abstain from voting, lays down in a general outline.

    In the Ukrainian media, this is not widely discussed, why?
    In general, after two years of sobriety (intentionally distorted) Yanukovych and the majority of the Party of Regions in the Verkhovna Rada, this does not surprise me.

    Worse than an open enemy, only traitors. Betrayed history and their constituents.
  23. Yasniper
    Yasniper 29 November 2012 15: 20
    +1
    It’s not entirely clear why Canada is associated with the United States by the author of the article, Canada is the territory of the Angles and the Queen of England is the head of Canada.
  24. georg737577
    georg737577 29 November 2012 15: 36
    +1
    To blame the Nazis is tantamount to declaring war on Isael. After all, this is a real Nazi regime.
    1. bazilio
      bazilio 29 November 2012 16: 23
      0
      I wonder how Israel voted on this resolution? extremely interesting
      1. Korzhik_77
        Korzhik_77 29 November 2012 16: 49
        0
        bazilio
        Ascetic above clarified this topic - Israel for resolution
  25. Alto
    Alto 29 November 2012 16: 16
    +2
    Well, Israel loves the fascists no more than our brother, the Jews also got in all the same. In general, it is bitter and insulting to look at all this, it is not known what will happen in a couple of decades - now they are trying to put these freaks on the same level with the USSR, they say, both are to blame. Nonsense ... That is why we must remember the main precept "No one is forgotten, nothing is forgotten."
  26. Yankuz
    Yankuz 29 November 2012 17: 02
    +4
    Well, what can I comment ... Looks like soon the time will come again to uproot this evil, only now thoroughly and to the end, to the Atlantic and further, for sure. Such is the role of Russia in world history.
  27. Algerd
    Algerd 29 November 2012 17: 12
    -15
    Glory to the White Race!
    I need to prohibit communist social media!
    why are the Germans here? Speech is about the ability to nationally dvizhny! everything is good! not so і zhіdomasononskie etі USA exit!
    Can anyone condemn it?
    and the Nazis were in Italy, comrade illiterate collegiate!
    1. Nord007hold
      Nord007hold 29 November 2012 18: 57
      +7
      -Nationalism and Nazism are two different things.
      -For liquid massons, money is more important than any belief
      -Braivik is convicted of the murder of 77 people and in my opinion the "tower" (execution) for him would be just
      -SSSR is our past, and there is no need to look for it selectively good or bad (it was both). you need to accept it as it was.
      1. Algerd
        Algerd 29 November 2012 20: 49
        -6
        "Breivik is convicted of killing 77 people" is not just a murder, if you do not know.
        "The USSR is our past, and there is no need to look for selectively good or bad in it (there was both). You need to accept it as it was" - why is the USSR here? so and the swastika was, do you accept it?
        Does the white race side you? what is closer? I - to you!
        1. Sanches
          Sanches 30 November 2012 06: 50
          +1
          do you think Breivik, this slightly thinner copy of Roman Trakhtenberg, with his mother a purebred Jewish woman, is the personification of the White Race ?? !!!
    2. serjant4
      serjant4 30 November 2012 12: 57
      +1
      Why are you smoking? share the grass ...
      1. Nord007hold
        Nord007hold 5 December 2012 03: 58
        0
        Sanches and serjant4, didn’t quite understand the essence of your statements, could you speak more clearly and more clearly, to create a dispute that has a beneficial effect (as the saying goes) on the birth of truth? :)
        Thank you in advance.
        1. Sanches
          Sanches 5 December 2012 19: 20
          0
          the argument ended when the moderators deleted that skinhead's comments
  28. LAO
    LAO 29 November 2012 18: 11
    +2
    I did not expect from the states and Canada! Absolutely fucked up!
    It’s a shame to live in a country where people still doubt this question!
    May they be damned fascist civities and their henchmen ... amen!
    1. Algerd
      Algerd 29 November 2012 20: 52
      -5
      Alleluia!
      Glory to the NKVD, Trotsky, Stalin, etc. "to the beggars and their henchmen"! Are you for this?
  29. Beck
    Beck 29 November 2012 18: 15
    0
    Something I do not see comments that can be minus from the heart, but this is a mess. I provide a field of activity.

    The article is unclear. The author simply condemns, but does not provide information for what should be condemned. The article does not present the resolution itself, its paragraphs. There is no information in the article against which points the disagreements spoke. DO NOT KNOW THE DOCUMENT HOW IT CAN BE APPROVED OR CONDEMNED. This is communist - did not read, but condemn.

    For example. A resolution on peace could be put forward, but the last paragraph would say that Africa should be made a colony. Of course, such a resolution will cause conflicting opinions. But if you do not know the last paragraph, you can condemn those who do not accept such a resolution.

    Here will be the text of the resolution, there will be points against which doubts have been expressed, then it will be possible to talk about something. And so bare propaganda.

    After all, it is unclear whether the justification of the Soviet soldiers captured is heroization or not. After all, after the fascist captivity, they, like criminals, accomplices of the enemy, ended up in Soviet camps.
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 30 November 2012 05: 19
      +2
      Beck
      ... the excuse of Soviet soldiers captured is heroization or not. After all, after the fascist captivity, they, like criminals, accomplices of the enemy, ended up in Soviet camps.

      So, right, right from the fascist captivity, Soviet captured?
      Actually, there was such an instance - a filtration camp. Next, read:

      "Information on the verification process of b / encircled and b / prisoners of war as of October 1, 1944
      To test the former Red Army soldiers captured or surrounded by the enemy, the GKKO decision No. 1069ss dated 27.XII-41 created special NKVD camps.
      The verification of the Red Army servicemen who are in special camps is carried out by the Smersh counterintelligence departments of the NPO under the NKVD special camps (at the time of the decision these were Special Divisions).
      In total, 354 592 people, including officers of 50 441 people, went through special camps of former Red Army soldiers who left the encirclement and were released from captivity.

      The fate of former prisoners of war who passed the test before October 1, 1944, is distributed as follows:

      Sent
      to military units through military registration and enlistment offices: 231034 people (76,25%)
      in assault battalions: 18382 people (6,07%)
      industry: 30749 people (1,96%)
      into the escort troops: 5924 people (0,15%)
      11556 arrested: people (3,81%)
      in hospitals, infirmaries, died: 5347 people (1,76%)
      Total passed verification: 302992 people (100%)
      1. Beck
        Beck 30 November 2012 09: 43
        -1
        Quote: BigRiver
        Here, right, directly from the fascist captivity, was the Soviet captured? Actually, there was such an instance - a filtration camp. Next, read:


        Well, I didn’t mean that everything was complete. In my koment I emphasized that the justification of Soviet prisoners of war in our time is a heroization of fascism? That is, to say that they were captured not by their own will, but on the occasion of the circumstances. In my opinion, this is not heroization. But perhaps there will be those who will consider it a heroization.
        1. Beck
          Beck 30 November 2012 12: 22
          -3
          I will add. You gave the numbers of 1944. Then needed soldiers for the army. And what about about 2 million Soviet people after 1945.
          1. Bigriver
            Bigriver 30 November 2012 16: 09
            +1
            Beck
            You gave the numbers of 1944. Then needed soldiers for the army. And what about about 2 million Soviet people after 1945.

            This is not my topic. You can, of course, do :)) If there was time. And his dumb.
            By the way, I quoted the document and found an interesting detail. At first, he himself did not pay attention.
            Second position: in assault battalions: 18382 people (6,07%).
            This is definitely not a penalty. Most likely - SHISBR (assault engineering and combat engineer brigade). Finally, in terms of combat effectiveness, this is the elite of the Red Army. Troop Special Forces.
            1. Beck
              Beck 30 November 2012 18: 50
              -3
              Quote: BigRiver
              This is not my topic. You can, of course, do :)) If there was time. And his dumb.


              Well, in general, the figure to the last comma to anyone in our dispute is not very important. For me, it was important, on the topic, whether the justification of the people who were captured could be attributed to the glorification of fascism. Now I’m saying that the attitude of the Soviet government towards our prisoners of war was not humane. Does this mean that I am heroizing? That is the question.

              For you rummaged through wikipedia, you will have to. Assault battalions are not penal battalions or SISBR.

              "Separate assault rifle battalions"

              "They appeared in 1943. They were formed from Soviet commanders who were in captivity. The period of stay is 2 months, either until the first order or injury. Unlike penal battalions, officer ranks were not deprived here."
  30. CAPILATUS
    CAPILATUS 29 November 2012 18: 27
    +3
    According to the 2010 census, more than 3 million Native Americans live in these North American states. At the same time, up to a million Indians are forced to live on the territory of special zones - reservations (original ghettos). If on average in the United States below the poverty line is up to 12% of the population, then this figure among Indians is more than 2 times higher - 25%. At the same time, it is far from easy for the Indian family to leave the reservation, even if it (the family) so wishes. And if we take into account that in some reservations the unemployment rate is simply unlimited (above 80%), then this situation cannot be called anything other than an infringement of the rights and freedoms of these people on an ethnic basis. As the American political scientist called the Indians, "strangers in their own country." So where, then, are human rights, freedom of speech, thought, movement, and other democratic pillars? ..
    ----------------------------------
    I do not know how things are with this in the USA. But the writer of this opus, for information.

    In Canada, the Indians, or as they are respectfully called here - the indigenous nation, do not consider themselves deprived at all. I will give a few facts.
    - The indigenous nation does not pay any taxes to the federal budget
    - The indigenous nation owns its territories
    - The indigenous nation has preferences from the state, such as: free health care, free education, preferential higher education (!)
    - benefits for housing

    maybe that's why they have 80% "unemployment"? :) why work under such conditions?

    In general, you can list for a long time. By the way, the Canadians are not flawlessly marrying an Indian, because they know that children will be provided 100%


    Directly to the topic topic I will say the following. I am not surprised that Canada voted against, since in Canada there is freedom of speech, opinion and religion spelled out in the constitution. Otherwise, Canada would simply flout its constitution. But with all this, in Canada there are no marches of Nazis and other scum of this kind, and their veterans (with all the wars) are respected and loved here. By the way, Canadians joined the Great Patriotic War against the Nazis (unofficially) before the USSR as part of volunteer units fighting in the battle for Britain. At my very place, my grandfather died near Vitebsk in the 43rd and to anyone who propagandizes fascism here - I will give in the face. I think this better reflects the views of the country's population, rather than a one-sided article by the author, which does not shine with erudition at all.
    1. Beck
      Beck 29 November 2012 19: 39
      -2
      Quote: CAPILATUS
      I do not know how things are with this in the USA. But the writer of this opus, for information.


      I will add. About 20 years ago I read an article about the situation of the US Indians at the present time. Basically, their situation coincides with that of the Canadian Natives.

      Yes. Some Indians live on reservations (the area provided by the US government in the 19th century). According to the agreement, the Indians live in this territory, and the government fulfills their livelihood support.

      Indians are provided with food free of charge, as well as medicine, clothing. Free secondary education. And it is for life. If the Indian leaves the reservation after the age of majority, then he already provides for himself and pays all taxes.

      And the author of the article silently sends us to the reality of the 18th century, and not to the 21st century.
      1. Beck
        Beck 30 November 2012 09: 48
        0
        Hello secret lovers silently minus. But at least for the sake of one of you would try to refute my koment.

        There was a Beg River down minusan, but also answered with my opinion to my koment. That's the way it should be.
    2. uizik
      uizik 29 November 2012 23: 14
      0
      The people are against, the politicians are for. How to understand !? About the Indians messy out of place. Do not confuse fascism with genocide. Ukraine is out. Whoever gives more to him will "give"
  31. Yasen Ping
    Yasen Ping 29 November 2012 19: 00
    +1
    The most important thing is not to forget who we are, how our grandfathers fought and pass on this knowledge to their children ... Let them want to say, the main thing is that we don’t forget ..
    1. Algerd
      Algerd 29 November 2012 21: 05
      -6
      exactly! not for the enslaved to the Jews and non-Russians the country they fought!
  32. andrey777
    andrey777 29 November 2012 19: 07
    +2
    Ukraine must rise, the people must overthrow this misunderstanding !!!
  33. Sleptsoff
    Sleptsoff 29 November 2012 19: 17
    0
    The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The United States adheres to this concept and widely promotes it, including through Hollywood. They and the terrorists are also divided into good and bad.
  34. Kir
    Kir 29 November 2012 19: 24
    0
    That's interesting, though I read a glimpse, maybe I missed that now, like before the First and Second World Wars, the state known to everyone was in one well-known place, and then there are well-known events during which many were in a deplorable state, if not worse, others were on horseback politically and economically, so the game will continue until everyone realizes that there is nothing to sit down with a cheat, not only to play, But! even communicate, and the World "Institutions" cannot be located in a country that was originally founded, with the exception of some territories-states, by a runaway rabble of all stripes, where it is not Demos who dictates okhlos, as it was in Greece and in general in normal states it should be (Indigenous aliens, but on the contrary), and very much the opposite!
    As for Canada, well, there’s a separate conversation here, on the one hand, a cross-border skirmish with amers, well, by the way, they were called upon them, on the other, a coalition. Yes, and living in the territory of Bandera scum does not paint !!!, I did not look at the expense of the indigenous ethnic group, I do not know.
  35. Dimon simfer
    Dimon simfer 29 November 2012 19: 30
    +1
    Modern warriors of the OUN-UPA. Just scary. sad
    11.10.2009 in Lviv the so-called March of the glory of the Ukrainian rebel
    Army (UPA), hosted by several public organizations and the Lviv City Council in honor of the 67th anniversary of the creation of the UPA. Accompanied by a military band, young men in uniform and several veterans walked from Customs Square to Liberty Avenue.
    1. Kir
      Kir 29 November 2012 19: 38
      0
      Dmitry, if it’s not difficult if you couldn’t, either indicate where to look or just give info about the ethno-social origin of ardent advocates of independence such as Bandera and Petliura, and others like them would surely, if not everything I think clarified!
      thanks in advance Cfastor.
      1. Dimon simfer
        Dimon simfer 29 November 2012 20: 21
        0
        Here is http://no-fascism-ukr.ucoz.org/publ/4-1-0-24
        http://www.allabout.ru/a14738
        http://ukrainian-news.ucoz.ua/news/kto_on_stepan_bandera_geroj_ili_palach/2010-1
        2-30-9
        Please.
    2. Algerd
      Algerd 29 November 2012 21: 04
      -6
      Modern warriors of the OUN-UPA. Just scary. - fearfully?
      1. Curculum
        Curculum 30 November 2012 01: 06
        0
        Quote: Algerd
        Modern warriors of the OUN-UPA. Just scary. - fearfully?

        DUZHE. What kind of thing?
    3. DimYang
      DimYang 30 November 2012 14: 12
      +3
      Cannon fodder walks beautifully. The level of brainwashing among Westerners is enormous and very strong (you can immediately see whose hands it was). Only now they are probably not being explained by the fact that their "heroes" fought not against Jews and commissars, but against the civilian population of Belarus and against their civilians. And they fought like, the Germans did not really trust them either. Here's a look when they were shown facts about who their grandfathers "fought" with. I think whoever has a conscience in order, they would step aside, but I would put the remaining scum against the wall, although it would be a pity for a bullet. Better a lamppost or bitches.
      1. Kir
        Kir 30 November 2012 15: 55
        0
        By the way, I had one familiar Rodnover just from Ukraine, so he openly admitted that he would give up his nationality if they continue to make heroes of such scum, while the other, being a "designer" not only by profession, but also by life! appearance, let's say unclear, epotted the community by appearing in a red T-shirt with a portrait of Bandera and this is in Moscow, although he is a Muscovite himself, you understand such pies.
  36. Bosk
    Bosk 29 November 2012 20: 14
    +1
    And what do you want from a country where the destruction of the Indians was put on stream ......
  37. Evgeniy46
    Evgeniy46 29 November 2012 20: 59
    0
    To be honest, it’s too early to talk about the document as a held resolution. It was approved only at the level of the Third Committee and submitted for final approval at the plenary meeting of the UN General Assembly. Therefore, the text of the resolution does not yet exist.
    http://www.un.org/russian/news/story.asp?newsID=18672#.ULeThIDE2CU
  38. commitment
    commitment 29 November 2012 23: 39
    0
    Judging by what the United States is doing around the world, this state not far from the Third Reich has left ..... Well, Canada is always singing along, a country without its own independent position in the world.
  39. talented villain
    talented villain 29 November 2012 23: 47
    +1
    I wonder what position Israel chose and who looked back ????
  40. Allegedly
    Allegedly 30 November 2012 00: 51
    +4
    As soon as the whole world ceases to accept candy wrappers of the states for payment, there will be such a massacre, there will even be fun ...

    And then everyone will at least give a damn about what the amers vetoed, and even the amers can put it on their pants. The main thing is that all conflicts be in the states themselves or somewhere nearby. To find out what poverty and lawlessness are ...

    And terrible helplessness and hopelessness ...
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 30 November 2012 01: 05
      0
      An abstract judgment .... About the same thing - how the Russians stop drinking .... Fantasy just like that will not leave the world stage .... If there comes a terrible helplessness and hopelessness, then universal. Owners of candy wrappers will make it the same.
  41. EW
    EW 30 November 2012 04: 06
    +1
    It has long been known that the United States harbored many war criminals. Sooner or later, documentary evidence will appear.
  42. Ramldor
    Ramldor 30 November 2012 04: 08
    -6
    polovina skinxedov mira v rassiyi ......
  43. Ramses_IV
    Ramses_IV 30 November 2012 05: 44
    0
    In the old days, when our special services were strong spiritually and did exactly what they were obliged to do, if such SS marches occurred in famous countries, I have no doubt that the organizers and participants of such events would be, to put it mildly, heavily punished for this. And most likely so that on the march they would never have gone out again.
    And it's a shame to even talk about now
  44. d5v5s5
    d5v5s5 30 November 2012 12: 56
    +1
    Of course, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the next country to implement the ideas of Nazism will be the States.
  45. DimYang
    DimYang 30 November 2012 14: 03
    +1
    Well, the white population in the United States and Canada can also be understood (they have nowhere to go from blacks and Latinos), but the interests of the owners of these so-called states have nothing to do with the interests of the white population. They sponsored Hitler-Shikelgruber together with British relatives, bankers. And the position of the Ukrainian delegation is clear - their puppet government doesn’t solve anything at all (they can only plant each other) they decided everything for them.
  46. Alex_dnepr
    Alex_dnepr 30 November 2012 14: 53
    +3
    I just wanted to say for Ukraine, because now we have a real horror - fascists - nationalists (the Freedom party) also came to power (10% in the elections).
    By the way, even before the election of Yushchenko in 2004, many already knew that he supported nationalists, the UPA, Bendera, etc. And his father, as you know, was a policeman / traitor. (the fruits of Yushchenko’s work then are all that is happening in Ukraine now: quarrels with Russia, gas prices, nationalists / Freedom, struggle with the Russian language for half of Ukrainians, etc.)
    And they brought him to power, we ourselves know who the Americans are.

    That's just to prevent this from happening - and the world did not forget what fascism is and that it is very bad and this resolution was adopted.

    That's just what my surprise was when I found out that the Ukrainian representatives as cowardly as jackals "abstained from voting"
    (so that no one is offended).
    In fact - there can be no middle ground in such a case, you are either AGAINST or For. The reaction of the Ukrainian representatives (not to be confused with the people) showed that they were FOR FASCISM.
    PS I’m very ashamed of my country, but the Americans are Americans for that, in order to once again prove to everyone their true nature.
  47. Bigriver
    Bigriver 30 November 2012 17: 20
    +2
    Alex_dnepr
    In fact - there can be no middle ground in such a case, you are either AGAINST or For.
    PS very ashamed of my country.


    Frayed, brother. The only question is time. But, and he is not sorry!
    It's a pity the deterioration of relations in a single, once Slavic family. It is a pity for young people who have no immunity against the "western" poison.
  48. david210512
    david210512 30 November 2012 17: 24
    +1
    there are 2 options
    1) USA = Terror and fascist No. 1
    2) the USA is against because Russia (for)
    1. George
      George 30 November 2012 23: 50
      0
      Therefore, see 1). yes
  49. Snoop
    Snoop 30 November 2012 18: 57
    +1
    The US just needs to use puppet pro-Nazi states. Politics is a dirty business.
  50. Stasi.
    Stasi. 1 December 2012 00: 25
    0
    Few people know that the Nazis hated the States very much, not without reason, believing that this country is run by a handful of Jewish tycoons. When Otto Skorzeny came to Himmler and provided him with a project for transporting the sea V-2, it was supposed to be transported in a special container in tug by a submarine. At the right time, an order was given and the rocket took off and hit the target. Himmler, having familiarized himself with the project, said: "I immediately go with this project to the Fuehrer, this matter needs to be given special attention. These missiles can hit any city in America, especially New York. Hear Skorzeny, this devilish city should not be left stone unturned. ! " And the Germans could carry out such a project and bomb the United States, but they no longer had time for this, the Russian regiments were moving too quickly towards Berlin.
    1. d.gksueyjd
      d.gksueyjd 2 December 2012 11: 29
      +2
      You forget that during the Second World War the United States made deliveries both to the USSR and to Hitler. Deliveries differed only in that Hitler did not deliver ready-made weapons.