The message of the head of Crimea about a missile shot down over Feodosia suggests that either the missile flew about 300 km or was fired from the sea

Found confirmation of the information that the Ukrainian troops made another attempt to attack the territory of the Crimean peninsula. For the first time in recent years, not Drones, and missile weapons.

The head of the Republic of Crimea, Sergey Aksyonov, writes in his TG channel that a missile launched from Ukraine was shot down over Feodosia.

Given the fact that Sergey Aksyonov is making a statement that the missile was fired from Ukraine, it must be assumed that we are talking about territory controlled by the Kyiv regime. The territories closest to Feodosia, which are under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, are the settlements occupied by the enemy in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. So, from Feodosia to Kherson in a straight line 280 km, to Nikopol (Dnepropetrovsk region) - 300 km, to Zaporozhye - about 315 km.

This distribution of distances suggests that Ukraine is using medium-range missiles, which are certainly not limited to 80 kilometers, which have been mentioned in connection with Western supplies all the time.

Could the rocket be fired from the sea? It could well, but only official information that the rocket was heading from one of the ships towards Feodosia is currently not available.

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[Kuziming]

This is a notification that the bridge is in range. Dear partners subtly hint at thick circumstances.

In fact, this is the beginning of the first stage of the battle for the Crimea.

[credo]

So after all, the old truth says - "We must prepare for the worst, and the best preparation for it will not allow the worst."

[Orange Bigg]

Well, the production of the Ukrainian OTRK Grom-2 has not been destroyed, so they are being shot at.

[blackGRAIL]

Yes, according to fisherman it was exactly Thunder-2

About an attempt to strike the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Feodosia in the Crimea from the Grom-2 OTRK

Today, around 11.05, Ukrainian formations attempted to deliver another strike on the Crimean peninsula from the Grom-2 operational-tactical missile system from the position area at the Alibey/Tuzly training ground.

The missile flew at an altitude of more than 15 kilometers and was shot down by the calculation of the S-300 air defense system in the vicinity of Feodosia. The smoke in the photo is caused by the fall of fragments after it was hit in the air. According to the head of the Crimea, Sergei Aksyonov, there were no casualties as a result of the attack.

Now the Armed Forces of Ukraine are intensifying preparations for the offensive, which may begin within the next two weeks. Against this background, the number of launches of missiles and UAVs at Russian facilities in the Kherson, Zaporozhye regions and the Republic of Crimea from the HIMARS MLRS and the Grom-2 OTRK has been increased.

The latest OTRK is still being tested in the Tuzlov region south of Odessa. Today's attempt, like on March 29 in Gvardeisky, is a zeroing in on the capabilities of the missile system for long-range attacks deep into Russia. The distance from Tuzly to Feodosia in a straight line is 415 km.

And the closer the date of the likely activation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front, the more intense will be the attempts to hit important objects of the military and civilian infrastructure of the Russian Federation.

[krops777]

Dear partners subtly hint at thick circumstances.

It’s time for respected partners to give the soup, for a start in Poland on bases and tactical nuclear weapons, anyway, no one will harness for it, but it may well become an admonition to some especially stubborn ones. After all, you can’t convince them by grinding the pig farm, it doesn’t concern them directly, but when it touches you, then you look and your brains fall into place, I don’t think anyone wants to leave the comfort zone, and even so cool.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote from Kuziming

then the beginning of the first stage of the battle for the Crimea.

Alternatively, something arrived with a range of 500-600 km, launched from the Odessa or Nikolaev regions and flying to Feodosia over the sea.
The Ukrainians themselves are capable of building such a rocket, or the Americans could have transferred it.
It is clear that they are approaching the bridge and this rocket is not the last one.

[TRex]

It banged well, the dog was frightened, the glasses clinked ... There were two explosions with an interval of a second and a half. At first I thought that two fighters broke the sound barrier over the city ....
Turns out it's a rocket. How she flew over the Crimea for more than 100 km is a question. Along the Dzhankoy-Kerch line, it seems there should be air defense positions ...

[topol717]

Quote: TRex

How she flew over the Crimea for more than 100 km - question

Well, it's a ballistic missile. She almost goes into space. it's impossible to knock it down. But already at the final stage of the flight it is possible, which was done.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from Kuziming

This is a notification that the bridge is in range. Dear partners subtly hint at thick circumstances.

In essence, this is the beginning of the first stage of the battle for the Crimea.

I beg you ... You might think there were no attempts to break through water drones into the Sevastopol Bay, attempts to strike at various objects in Sevastopol, undermine a small part of the Crimean bridge, strikes at military airfields, food storage sites, etc., and so on similar ... Yes, and in central Russia there is an intensive use of drones, artillery. They hit everything they can reach .. So that the "battle for Crimea" is another version ... So there is a "battle for Bryansk!", For Belgorod, which is hit every day, for Engels, Tula, the Moscow region .. We beat, they answer. If someone does not understand, then this is actually a full-scale war, only so far without the use of tactical nuclear weapons .. There will be one. Let the svidopukhs wait, crow, jump ..

[Lumpenn007]

Why atomic weapons - carpet bombing

[Sarboz]

The Americans are trying to throw us off balance in order to get an extremely tough response from us. It is not for nothing that an article about the Kremlin's "red lines" appears in Germany.

[Terenin]

Quote: Sarboz

The Americans are trying to throw us off balance in order to get an extremely tough response from us. It is not for nothing that an article about the Kremlin's "red lines" appears in Germany.

Then, we wipe ourselves and endure further

[topol717]

Quote: Terenin

Then, we wipe ourselves and endure further

It is worth wiping yourself once and then you will wipe yourself for the rest of your life.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Sarboz

The Americans are trying to throw us off balance in order to get an extremely tough response from us. It is not for nothing that an article about the Kremlin's "red lines" appears in Germany.

Rather, they are forced to be the first to go on the offensive .. Now whoever jerks first will lose ... The Svidoketukhs are brave, they resist with all their might to go on the offensive ... Bo will be beaten .., which they perfectly understand.

[Murmur 55]

All the same, the West put it without advertising to try, now they shoot and check both the weapons themselves and our air defense, but then they will try to break through an adult with maximum effect, either along a bridge or at a military facility, although Kiev should expect a strike on a civilian.

[topol717]

Quote: Murmur 55

or over the bridge

What over the bridge? Ballistic missile? 300 kg of explosives? like a pellet to an elephant. To destroy the bridge, they blew up a whole truck with explosives.

[Repellent]

Quote from: topol717

To destroy the bridge, they blew up a whole truck with explosives

... and the bridge is still there (s).

[Metallurg_2]

There was like an estimated half a ton in the truck. And two spans are still in ruins.

[TermNachTer]

It is not clear how the rocket got there. If she flew from the Odessa region, then how could she pass Sevastopol and Simferopol? If from the Zaporozhye - Gulyai - Pole region, then there are also serious air defense areas - Melitopol and Berdyansk.

[Murmur 55]

TermNachTer , while it is not known what kind of rocket it is difficult to assume.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Murmur 55

while it is not known what kind of rocket it is difficult to assume.

There is no point in guessing.
If shot down, the type will be known after a short time.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: TermNachTER

It is not clear how the rocket got there.

I assume that they hit from the sea. These grain deals, that’s still a loophole, for the Jewish Bandera’s svidopetukhs .. .. And semi-submersible drones from the sea were allowed to Sevastopol ..

[tralflot1832]

The simplest option is Ukraine brought to mind the Vilkha 2 missile together with NATO and handed over the documentation for production to one of the NATO countries.

[Sergei N 58912062]

Quote: tralflot1832

The simplest option is Ukraine brought to mind the Vilkha 2 missile together with NATO and handed over the documentation for production to one of the NATO countries.

What alder? Alder is an analogue of our Tornado-S MLRS.
The simplest option is that the Yankees secretly handed over the ATACMS missiles to the Ukrainians.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Quote from Kuziming

This is a notification that the bridge is in range. Dear partners subtly hint at thick circumstances.

In fact, this is the beginning of the first stage of the battle for the Crimea.

We, too, can warn you: slap Iskander on Bankovaya...

[next322]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

We, too, can warn you: slap Iskander on Bankovaya...

it’s not even funny anymore ...... these are just unrealizable dreams of Kremlin storytellers .... and respected Western partners do not allow this

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Ezekiel 25-17

We, too, can warn you: slap Iskander on Bankovaya...

WE ??? We can not! We have no chela with iron Faberge!
But the Yankees - easily! Even the Chinese embassy in Belgrade!
Oh! A mistake happened: The ax got lost and confused the targets ... Sadness ...
But, the bastards did not even apologize for the death of 4 Chinese citizens! Two - by the way - were diplomatic workers of the PRC Embassy in the SFRY ...
Therefore, the Germans (provocateurs) say: why are you afraid of the Russians? They can be kicked on their heads - they will endure everything .. Well, just think, they will once again express "deep concern" - and that's it! Disgrace! Our great ancestors are turning over in their graves from indignation at the toothlessness of the current government!
Truly: Dwarfs on the shoulders of giants!

[cold wind]

With the current government, they are already openly laughing at the federal channel. From 4:15 about the "red lines".

[Ed1970]

If ours rolled out a high-tech effective weapon, such as Robot Fedor, nanotechnology ... then yes, it would be sad that they don’t answer. So, what is the answer? Mobilization?

[Metallurg_2]

It is impossible, they promised the b-chosen ones not to touch Ze.
The deal is more valuable then money.

[Elephant]

It is not clear why there is no information on the rocket itself based on the debris. In general, the news is bad for us, I think this is a test run

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Elephant

It is not clear why there is no information on the rocket itself based on the debris.

It's too early.

[svp67]

Theoretically, Grom-2 has a flight range of up to 500 km ...

[Dart2027]

Given the fact that Sergey Aksyonov is making a statement that the missile was fired from Ukraine, it must be assumed that we are talking about territory controlled by the Kyiv regime. The territories closest to Feodosia, which are under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, are the settlements occupied by the enemy in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions.

I don't know, where did she go? Judging by the map at sea? It looks more like they were not shooting from the Ukrainian side.

[blackGRAIL]

Rybar believes that the blow was inflicted on Feodosia. Flew 414 km.

[Dart2027]

Quote from: blackGRAIL

that the blow was inflicted on Feodosia

Maybe only in the Crimea there are targets closer.

[blackGRAIL]

This is the point. The missile (according to information available in the public domain) was not tested and was not accepted for service, its capabilities are practically not confirmed. Here we have a confirmed launch range of 415 km. (out of theoretical 500 km).

On the contrary, I ask myself why Feodosia and not Kerch. As an answer: the trajectory to Feodosia lies exactly between Dzhankoy and Sevastopol (equidistant from their air defense), which is why the rocket flew to Feodosia and was not shot down earlier. And if you hit on Kerch, then the trajectory is too close to Dzhankoy. Sofa IMHO.

[Katya_Ivanova]

All these statements scare me. Now, if a nuclear missile arrives in Moscow, then it turns out that they do not see where it came from and whether it is nuclear. That is, there will be no "reciprocal strike." Because they do not know who to answer and how to answer.

[blackGRAIL]

It is not possible in principle to see a nuclear or conventional warhead on a rocket. But over the fact that to see the fact of a rocket launch ...

The Soviet Union began building a missile warning system in the mid-1950s. The first early warning radars were deployed in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Over-the-horizon radars fixed missiles after they appeared from behind the local horizon, over-the-horizon "looked" over the horizon using radio wave reflections from the ionosphere. Russia continued to improve and develop early warning systems

But as strikingly, the territories of Ukraine and Belarus lie "inside" the zone of control of the early warning system. Unlike the same Finland.

https://topwar.ru/192345-rossijskaja-sistema-sprn-polnostju-perejdet-na-nazemnye-nadgorizontnye-rls-voronezh.html#

[Ryaruav]

why wasn't it hit earlier? at such a flight altitude they should have detected much earlier if it was not an ax

[blackGRAIL]

Firstly, the effective range of a ballistic missile is several times less than that of an aerodynamic target, we are talking about several tens of kilometers (about 30 kilometers). Air defense systems do not cover (empty) territory. They cover civil/administrative/industrial centers or strategic infrastructure facilities. Accordingly, to hit a ballistic missile, it must fly up (relatively) close to the S-300. Shooting at a ballistic target is not possible for any 100-200-300km. The missile could well be tracked and led all the way until a clear threat arose (Feodosia).

Remember the cases of the merging of Ukrainian Points - these missiles were often hit within the city or very close to those. Such a missile is relatively easy to see, but problematic to shoot down.

It is no coincidence that the same Patriot is specialized specifically in the fight against BR. Actually, our S-300P and S-309V. The military version had to be able to deal with BR and preferably before it fell on your head. And the country's air defense version did not have such a requirement.

[Timur_kz]

Not just any Patriot. The PAK-3 is imprisoned for the fight against BR.

[blackGRAIL]

All variants of the Patriot are designed as missile defense systems. PAK-1 was practiced on BR Lance, PAK-1/2 was fired in Iraq almost exclusively at Scuds. The US Army, it ordered a missile defense system and simply would not accept an anti-aircraft air defense system. The capabilities of the complex to defeat aerodynamic targets are a “free” bonus that you can’t throw away (like our S-300V, where the army also requested a missile defense system).
At the same time, a ballistic target is much more difficult than an aerodynamic one and PAK-1\2 hit BR with a probability of 0,3-0,4, and aircraft with 0,8-0,9 and only PAK-3 brought the probability of BR to 0,6-0,9 ,XNUMX.

[voyaka uh]

"to defeat a ballistic missile, it must fly up (relatively) close to the S-300. It is not possible to fire at a ballistic target for any 100-200-300 km" ///
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If so, then Russia has a very weak missile defense system.

[constructor_sidorov]

Rocket or another Swift?

[Sergei N 58912062]

Quote: constructor_sidorov

Rocket or another Swift?

It's most likely a rocket. The question is, was it fired from the Ukrainian OTRK "Grom-2" or from the American HIMARS (ATACMS missile)? But what if the Yankees still secretly delivered ATACMS missiles to Ukrainians?

[Sergei N 58912062]

As a result, I have a few questions:
1) Why was the rocket able to fly to the Crimea, and was not shot down earlier?
2) If the missile was indeed fired from the Ukrainian Grom-2 OTRK, why have not enterprises producing these same OTRKs and missiles for them been destroyed so far?
3) Was this rocket really fired from the Ukrainian OTRK "Grom-2"? But what if the Yankees still secretly delivered ATACMS missiles to Ukrainians?

[dfk-80]

Along the trajectory: the fact that there are several air defense areas between the launch site near Odessa and Feodosia does not prohibit the missile from flying from above - along a ballistic trajectory, north over the steppe zone and south of the sea, where there is no air defense.
I am glad that ours were shot down. The situation itself is stressful.

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: 30 vis

They hit everything they can reach .. So that the "battle for Crimea" is another version ... So there is a "battle for Bryansk!", for Belgorod, which is hit every day, for Engels, Tula, Moscow region ..

An acquaintance (serves in the National Guard) bought a house a couple of years ago, in the Belgorod (I could be wrong) region, on the border.

I thought I was retired and would go there to live.
Recently, a neighboring house was "taken apart" by a Bendera artillery shell.

So for him it's a battle. And on our territory.
Statements about (numerous) about "at least one projectile, let's fall on our land", "red lines", he perceives as the chatter of the illustrious Luntik.
He understands that peace will come only when our people reach the border of Poland, and the bloody clown is hanged in Lvov.

[Horon]

This is not a cruise missile, but a ballistic one. If it flew even 300 km (although what prevents the West with the help of Ukraine from making a missile at a range of up to 500 km?), Then its height at apogee will be 100 +/= 20 km, respectively, it can only be shot down on an ascending or descending section of the trajectory with conventional air defense which apparently happened. Only pro missiles can shoot down at high altitudes, this is a very expensive pleasure and it’s not a fact that it is there.

[Pavel57]

It is a strange topic that air defense does not see where the rocket is flying from?

[magnum 1907]

It has long been a couple of carpet throwing to sweep away all this riff-raff!