Work continues in Russia on the creation of anti-satellite weapons based on the Il-76 transporter and the MiG-31 interceptor

The Military Thought, published by the Ministry of Defense, publishes material on the creation and improvement of anti-satellite warfare systems in Russia. In particular, the material deals with aviation complexes of this type.

Magazine "War Thought" writes about the ongoing work on the creation of such anti-satellite systems as the Il-76, armed with a combat laser, as well as the MiG-31D with an anti-satellite missile.

The first version of anti-satellite weapons will be effective in conditions, for example, of thick and low clouds, since a ground-based combat laser in this case may have certain problems.

The complex based on the MiG-31 fighter-interceptor was named "Contact", and on the basis of the Il-76 transport aircraft - A60 "Sokol-Echelon" (referring to the nomenclature designation of the combat laser system).

It was noted that Russia has a combat laser system "Peresvet", which is a mobile ground-based complex for destroying air and space targets.

It is worth noting that this, by and large, is work to implement more Soviet ideas and projects. In particular, in the USSR, back in the first half of the 1980s, work was underway to create a system for the destruction of low-orbit satellites based on the MiG-31D with the Kontakt missile. Nowadays, the system receives a modern “stuffing” for more effective target destruction.

Recall that earlier the Russian Foreign Ministry noted that Ukraine, with the help of Western experts, is attempting to influence Russian communications satellites. Accordingly, Russia was reminded that this could be what is called a “two-way street”, since our country also has anti-satellite warfare capabilities.

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[rotmistr60]

on the creation and improvement of anti-satellite warfare systems in Russia.

The harsh reality forces us to objectively assess the situation and take countermeasures. And the possible transfer of hostilities into space is not far off.

[Alien From]

What databases do we need in space? Secure communications would be established for the fighters ....

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Alien From

What databases do we need in space? Secure communications would be established for the fighters ....

The claim is fair, in connection, but what does it have to do with existing developments and even samples? Drop everything now if the connection is not very good? It's obvious that it isn't.

[ALCA056000]

How what? The most direct is an excuse to release a stinky cloud. These little people are always dissatisfied with everything, well, or the serfs work off the master's money. Alien From, are you a servile or domestic whiner? prick

[Alien From]

Obviously not such a duck as .... call yourself

[TIR]

There will be no physical destruction of the satellite. Most likely, optical reconnaissance satellites will be destroyed with a laser. It is easier to burn the image reception matrix through the lenses. It's like in a joke about an astronomer who can look at the sun through a telescope only 2 times - with his left and right eyes

[Arkadich]

No, he won’t write, he himself is not in the subject, although the source indicated.

[Rostislav]

Quote: rotmistr60

And the possible transfer of hostilities into space is not far off.

One amendment - unconditional the transfer of hostilities into space is not far off, unfortunately.

[dmi.pris1]

Actually, in the USSR, anti-satellite weapons were developed back in the 70s Project "Spiral"

[Aerodrome]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Actually, in the USSR, anti-satellite weapons were developed back in the 70s Project "Spiral"

there is no Lozino-Lozinsky, and there is no "spiral".

[sergo1914]

. It is worth noting that this, by and large, is work to implement more Soviet ideas and projects.

The problem is that ALL, without exception, modern defense developments are 100% "the embodiment of Soviet ideas and projects." They take a dusty “folder” from the archive shelf. And embody. However, the same problem is behind the ribbon.

[Egor Adashev]

It remains to start testing on real objects, I propose Mask satellites

[Egor Adashev]

Quote: sergo1914

. It is worth noting that this, by and large, is work to implement more Soviet ideas and projects.

The problem is that ALL, without exception, modern defense developments are 100% "the embodiment of Soviet ideas and projects." They take a dusty “folder” from the archive shelf. And embody. However, the same problem is behind the ribbon.

Moreover, most modern technologies are inventions / discoveries of the 19th century ...

[Mikhail Maslov]

This is good. But who will develop and test the "iron eggs".

[Alien From]

Mikhail Maslov! Steel eggs loaded into a sling are really a terrible weapon! But ours will not accept them in any way ....

[sergo1914]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

This is good. But who will develop and test the "iron eggs".

“The use of nuclear weapons was primarily a matter of political will, and political will disappeared from the Russian arsenal at the same time that the word “USSR” was erased from the map.”
(C) “The day before the day after tomorrow” Sergey Anisimov

[Mikhail Maslov]

I didn’t mean nuclear weapons, this is the last and extreme argument. We, the Russian Federation, do not use the full potential, for example, the same FAB, the same “X” are used extremely rarely. Yes, and OTRK strikes do not spoil. There is no intelligence, so iron the near rear. banderlogs throw out so many videos that when studying, you can determine where it is. And the most pressing question is why don't we touch the "elite of Kiev"?

[leshiy076]

And I keep thinking how good the MiG 31 is. After all, it still has neither analogues nor aircraft, even approximately equal in terms of performance characteristics. This is what the Soviet engineering school means. And at the same time, for all that, the line for the production of these aircraft at our Sokol plant was irretrievably lost. In particular, the rotary stand, on which the airframe was welded, was completely dismantled. Even the Tu 160 can now be produced practically from scratch, but the MiG 31, unfortunately, is no longer there. Thanks to the Democrats and EBN in the nineties.

[Egg]

Quote: leshiy076

In particular, the rotary stand, on which the airframe was welded, was completely dismantled.

what prevents to make the same stand? even without taking into account the modern range of components, what, the Kulibins were transferred to Rus'?
especially since such a stand is highly specialized and not intended for mass production, it was probably in a single copy.
Or is it now fashionable to see only foreign labels on equipment?

[leshiy076]

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Quote: leshiy076
In particular, the rotary stand, on which the airframe was welded, was completely dismantled.

what prevents to make the same stand? even without taking into account the modern range of components, what, the Kulibins were transferred to Rus'?
especially since such a stand is highly specialized and not intended for mass production, it was probably in a single copy.
Or is it now fashionable to see only foreign labels on equipment?

Not in this case. In fact, a lot has been lost. This is just one of the examples I gave. The entire MiG 25-31 airframe assembly line has been dismantled. And these are the elements of the power frame made of titanium, and some of the elements from other unique materials. In particular, all titanium elements and alloys were produced in close cooperation with the Ukrainian SSR. The technology of welding stainless steel and titanium is also not a fact that has been preserved. In any case, the specialists who have worked on this line for a long time, who are retired, and who are even further away. The continuity of generations in terms of technology is also lost. It is unfortunate, of course, that we gave so mediocre everything that our fathers and grandfathers created with sweat and blood and handed over to us, in the hope that we will continue to develop and improve all this.

[Egg]

Believe me, as a specialist in welding production, welding technologies for both titanium and stainless and heat-resistant and corrosion-resistant and multilayer (clad) steels are quite successfully developing and have not been lost. For Boeing, titanium parts were supplied.
I think, if necessary, they will also collect the line, if they do not get bogged down in the modern swamp of bureaucracy. In the bureaucracy, the main problem, I judge by myself, is that so many new rules have been adopted by all kinds of service stations, joint ventures, FNP and other things, so many different supervisory bodies that you can only wonder ... and moreover, the level of technical specialists is falling and falling, whoever gets involved in the construction of pipelines , regardless of education, I almost went into hysterics when we were hired as the head of the veterinarian section! Well, like I finished 72 hours of welding courses, I have a higher education, what else do you want? And the pipelines only began to explode more often ... the oil pipeline that we handed over in 1987 is still working without problems, and the new ones are popping like balls, you can only hear it exploded there, then it spilled there. Managers and lawyers are in charge at the production site, verbiage is thriving, I’m already tired of explaining to them the need for certification of welders, the need to purchase this or that equipment for welding, welding control is generally a separate song, the control laboratory does not bring money, but only costs ... Looking at modern leaders, I’m just happy that I’m already a pensioner, if they finish baking, I spit and leave, burn it all with a blue flame.

[AC130 Gunship]

Where did you see 160 "from scratch"? There was a backlog

[Maks1995]

Ага.
in the meantime, "work continues", Musk is preparing to launch the next 2 rockets.
one regular, the other his extra ...

[moscowp]

The idea of ​​anti-satellite weapons has been dead for a decade now. Another 5-10 years and the Americans will openly laugh at these attempts to use the allocated money. This made sense in the past, when the military tasks of countries were served by a satellite constellation of 10-30 satellites. Now, when the US satellite constellation has several thousand small devices, and in the next few years there will be tens of thousands, such weapons become meaningless. Thousands of small commercial satellites will be used for military communications and surveillance purposes, as is already happening in principle within the framework of their own. They cannot be physically destroyed by missiles, for example. The other day there was news where our Foreign Ministry complained that Ukraine is affecting our communications satellites. Wait, how do they do that?! After all, they do not have the experience of decades of allocating money and developing anti-satellite weapons! Probably, for this it is not necessary to have an IL-76, missiles and lasers

[Artunis]

If you are not in the subject and have no idea what you are talking about, then why show your incompetence? Just to fart in the air? We are talking about reconnaissance and combat spacecraft, and "thousands" are communications. This is a little different and the impact on them may be different - for example, a strong EMP, but this is another topic.

[agond]

Quote: moscowp

Thousands of small commercial satellites will be used for military communications and surveillance purposes, as is already happening in principle within the framework of their own. They cannot be physically destroyed by missiles,

Yes, hundreds of small satellites can be launched into orbit with one large rocket, and no anti-missiles will be enough to shoot them down, and this must be taken for granted. for example, the aircraft is hidden in a hangar or in a shelter and the satellite does not see if there is anything inside or not, a military truck is disguised as civilian, military equipment for various purposes should have the same type of similar appearance, if possible, the size of military equipment should be limited wherever it is it is possible to stretch camouflage nets over the trenches, you can even cover them with boards so that nothing can be seen under them, for guns to build pillboxes closed from above

[Egg]

Quote: Artunis

e.g. strong EMP

It’s not a problem to destroy satellites in orbit at all, you can use a lot of things for this, it’s not at all necessary to destroy them one at a time, for example, launch a couple or three bags of small ball bearings into orbit or use rockets with EMP explosive magnetic generators, this has long been created back in 1952 :
https://naukatehnika.com/elektromagnitnoe-impulsnoe-oruzhie-1.html?ysclid=lg6ma3tjl6273161532
https://teh-guard.livejournal.com/14276.html
and even drones are developed https://www.ixbt.com/news/2023/01/16/v-rossii-sozdan-dron-so-snarjadomgeneratorom-jelektromagnitnyh-impulsov.html?ysclid=lg6mi0bikn862803185
another thing is that, at the same time, people will forever be blocked from entering space, due to the resulting debris. But in the case of a global kipesh, this will already be all the same.
I don’t understand something else, everyone says that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have excellent communications and command and control of troops via the Internet using the Starlink system almost online and clouds of drones, etc. and so on. so why aren’t the same shells or missiles with explosive magnetic EMP generators used on NMD that I saw news reports about 10 years ago? Such ammunition can destroy not only Stalin's receivers, but also radars are not a problem.
Or are they cherished for NATO?

[moscowp]

Where you only learn the multiplication table, I have already defended my doctorate. So save your boorish tone for your Friday beer buddies.

[Fangaro]

Work continues in Russia on the creation of anti-satellite weapons based on the Il-76 transporter and the MiG-31 interceptor

This is from a civilian...
Silt can take significant weight on board.
MiG can move very far from the surface of the Earth.
Conditionally... 12 km + 35 km. An air-to-air missile can be launched at 47 km from the Earth's surface.
Again from a civilian ... A rocket will fly 150-250 km in the atmosphere. And in the stratosphere? I don't know. Well, let 75-150 km. So, from the surface of the Earth it will be 157 km. Is this enough to destroy an artificial satellite? Don't know. (
And how many targets are at a distance of 160 km from the surface of the Earth? And how many targets that "it would be nice to destroy"? I don't know either.

[AC130 Gunship]

Shooting down an American satellite is one thing. Shooting down an American military satellite is another matter altogether.

[AC130 Gunship]

Mig31 is a narrow-profile development machine of the 70s. Concepts have changed since then. It has been 30 years since the Sr71 was decommissioned (which no one is going to replace), for the interception of which this aircraft was created ...