The first China-Europe container train arrived at the Bely Rast logistics center near Moscow faster than planned

The first China-Europe direct container train arrived by rail at the Bely Rast logistics terminal in the Dmitrovsky district of the Moscow region. A freight train left Beijing a few days ago.

Previously, the delivery of cargo from the northern Chinese city of Chifeng (Inner Mongolia province) to Moscow was worked out. Last year, more than 1,3 thousand various cargoes were delivered to the Russian capital via this route.

Now there is a logistical expansion - cargo from China through Russia will be sent to European countries. Thus, China intends to use Russian rail transit as an important component of transport logistics implemented as part of the large-scale One Belt, One Road program.

The train that arrived from Beijing to Moscow carries mostly containerized cargo. Earlier it was reported that it will also transport construction and automotive equipment. The total value of the goods transported by the train is about 60 million yuan (about 675 million rubles). The planned travel time from Beijing to Moscow is 18 days. The train left the Chinese capital on March 16 and arrived at the Bely Rast terminal on April 1. This is faster than planned.

The use of updated transport and logistics formulas is expected to reduce travel time from China to Russia and further to Europe. At the same time, it is the logistics terminal in the Moscow Region that will become the main one for this kind of transit.

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[tralflot1832]

Russian Railways has changed logistics with the redirection of goods. It seems that they began to cope with plugs, and navigation on Siberian rivers will soon begin. Routes of trade relations between the Siberian River - NSR - Southeast Asia and back are being worked out.

[credo]

Two and a half lines is a good time.
The issue of building separate tracks for freight trains operating in parallel has long been overdue in order to reduce the time for such trains to travel from east to west even more.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

I can hardly imagine that it is possible to carry along the Ob, Irtysh, Yenisei to the NSR and further to Southeast Asia. Coal, timber, fertilizers, metals along such a route around Chukotka will become gold in price. But even more incredible back, against the current, and most importantly, clothes and electronics?

[credo]

Quote: Saburov_Alexander53

I can hardly imagine that it is possible to carry along the Ob, Irtysh, Yenisei to the NSR and further to Southeast Asia. Coal, timber, fertilizers, metals along such a route around Chukotka will become gold in price. But even more incredible back, against the current, and most importantly, clothes and electronics?

If we set as our goal the development of the BAM and the Trans-Siberian Railway under the revival of our economy and industry in the Far East, then it will definitely be carried in both directions, and not just transit and import cargo.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

If we set as our goal the development of the BAM and the Trans-Siberian
I do not mind, but here the dispute with tralflot1832 (Andrey S.) is about the use of river routes along Siberian rivers in order to deliver goods to Southeast Asia and back. And the third way is good, but if you remember that for two years they built a 147 km bypass of Ukraine Zhuravka-Millerovo at an accelerated pace, then how many years will it take for the third way. So far, not everywhere there is a second way on BAM. It is necessary to call the Chinese or Koreans to help.

[former soldier]

use of river routes along the Siberian rivers,

It has only local significance for a simple well-known reason - ice is from November to April.

[karabas-barabas]

There is one more thing, which will probably seem insignificant to many, this is the growing cooling of not only political relations between Europe and China, but also economic ones. "Silk Road" in my opinion has stalled for now. To this all, and under the sanctions of the Russian Federation, from which the West, respectively, Europe is fenced off. At the moment, Chinese trains can run from the territory of the Russian Federation towards Europe only through the Baltic states. Then what else worries is, again, the sanctions of the West on Russian Railways, respectively, sanctions on a large list of components that are important for maintaining the work of Russian Railways.

[Consultant]

Quote: Saburov_Alexander53

It is necessary to call the Chinese or Koreans to help.

It's better not to do this. And then Pakistan has already called for help, now they don’t know how to pay off their debts!

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Incredibly different. As we, until last year, having the longest land border with China, in the entire history of the close neighborhood of the two empires, did not have a single bridge across the Amur and Ussuri to China. And when they came to their senses and undertook to build a 2007 km railway bridge near Birobidzhan (Nizhneleninskoye) in 2,2, they missed all the deadlines on their part, although our part of the 309 m bridge was 7 times shorter than the Chinese one. 1.9 km. The Chinese have been waiting for us for 10 years and offered to help us complete the construction, but... we are proud and only opened it a year ago.
For comparison, the bridge across the sea bay in Shanghai with a length of 36 km (!!!), the Chinese built in less than 5 years from 2003 to 2008.

[Bingo]

Quote: Saburov_Alexander53

Coal, timber, fertilizers, metals along such a route around Chukotka will become gold in price

Tell you a terrible secret that sea freight is always several orders of magnitude cheaper than rail?

[Obstacle]

That is, you openly declare that it is at least 200 (300, 400, 500...) times cheaper?!

[Bingo]

I don’t know the exact numbers, but the cost by sea is much less. Another plus is throughput. BAM will not stupidly pull the news of the traffic of Europe and China, and as it approaches the limit, prices can generally jump into space, then there are 200-not 200, but somewhere around and maybe.
Well, a few tricks. I probably turned it down, then the piece of iron would have disappeared long ago ... But I know that it is much cheaper, if only because from Europe when I was a tallyman, only expensive and perishable ones went by land. What is already said. Moreover, to drive a roundabout from France through Odessa - to Moscow - the usual route, figured it out approximately, how much shorter is the dry route? And one hell is more expensive. Documents on hand, how the cargo went - I see ...

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Tell you a terrible secret
Bingo, I wrote it down as a keepsake, I'll know .... But I won’t give out this secret to anyone, just imagine, in order to get along the river to the sea, where it will be cheap in your opinion, you need to load goods onto river transport. Then, somewhere near the sea, everything is reloaded onto sea transport. Then you need to agree on icebreaking assistance along the NSR and pay huge insurance to Llod or another insurance company, where such insurance is several times more expensive than any other route than along the NSR. As for the rest, you are right, otherwise you would not have carried anything across the seas.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

I can recall how Novatek (Mikhelson) once decided to save money on icebreaking assistance along the NSR and sent both gas carriers Christophe Margerie and Nikolay Evgenov to China on their own. Rosatomflot warned that if they needed unscheduled assistance from the icebreaker, the tariff would be double. In our media, this was presented as a feat and significant savings in time and freight. What happened next is "written in small print" and only in official correspondence. "N. Evgenov" broke the propeller and steering column on the thruster on the ice floe and reached China with a week's delay. One "C. Margerie" went back along the NSR and, having reached Chukotka, requested an icebreaker ... "N. Evmenov" went across the oceans and through the Suez Canal for a month's repairs to France. In short, the adventure turned into a complete fiasco and unnecessary expenses. The funny thing is that the delivery of LNG to China was at a contract price, which is three times lower than the market price at that time in Asia. But this was presented to the whole country as a feat on the NSR.

[Bingo]

Here is your last example, in general, one phrase immediately collapses to zero.
And why didn’t he carry gas with a piece of iron - and in general no one carries gas with a piece of iron?
In general, if you haven't noticed, cheap per kilo oil, gas, bulk cargoes are mostly carried with water. and oh horror - not only by the sea, but also by the river, but rarely by a piece of iron, most often over short distances ... Here's the story for you, that with an icebreaker it is even cheaper to transport by SEA than in railway tanks
PiSi: If you object that there are pipes on land, let me remind you right away that the marine one competes with pipes, but the railway does not.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Bingo, please don't try to convince me of the obvious that it's cheaper by sea. Try to think carefully about what I am saying, in this particular example, about the Siberian rivers .... Similarly to yours, I can ask a question: If it is cheaper by sea, then why is coal not being transported from Kuzbass along the Ob to the NSR and further around Chukotka and Kamchatka ?
Are you catching up on what's the difference? Do not just compare the cost of transportation, but in this particular case. Well, you will bring coal from Kuzbass first by railway to Novosibirsk or Krasnoyarsk. Transfer it to barges and for two weeks you will drag it along the river to Sabeta or Igarka. There again transshipment to sea transport and further, accompanied by an icebreaker around Chukotka. And now estimate that both the sea coal carrier (dry cargo carrier) and the river barges will go back empty ... you won’t be able to carry fruit and smartphones from Southeast Asia. Everything is determined on a case-by-case basis, but so far no one is transporting coal or even grain along such a route. Why is everyone so stupid?

[Saburov_Alexander53]

And why didn’t he carry gas with a piece of iron - and in general no one carries gas with a piece of iron?
Firstly, they carry LNG with a piece of iron, if you didn’t know. Secondly, these LNG carriers carry LNG from the Sabetta terminal in the Gulf of Ob to the NSR, where no intermediate reloading is required. When the railway to Sabetta is completed, they will start transporting LNG, including by railway, but not in return, but at the same time. Where it would be more profitable to transport LNG by rail. Isn't this simple truth clear? . So what are you arguing about?

[Consultant]

Of course, they carry LNG with a piece of iron, and they also carry coal from Kuzbass, a small clarifying question is only whether subsidies / subsidies are allocated for this, and if so, what size are they?
And the fact that some people have an ice class in the winter navigation to the East does not pull, because miracle-yudo projects of underwater gas carriers are already being prepared for this!

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Expert, I can't pinpoint who exactly your comment refers to. But even less understand what you mean? About subsidies and their size ... What is this for? Or do you want to say that if appropriate subsidies are given, then coal will be transported along the rivers from Kuzbass and even from Tuva to the NSR? Would you like to give?
And I agree about the ice class of these gas carriers. For summer navigation, they are able to navigate the NSR without an icebreaker. But in this example, they poked their head in in January and raked in full.
Miracle Yudo with submarine gas carriers on the NSR is a utopia that died before it was born. Remember, for this it was proposed to re-equip decommissioned nuclear submarines, removing everything superfluous from the compartments. Forgotten just one small argument, which of the foreign ports will allow a vessel for unloading LNG, with a nuclear power plant, into its waters? Then they estimated the cost of training the crew of an underwater tanker and the volume of LNG compartments and shed a second tear. Then we looked at the depths of the fairways along the NSR and realized that even large surface container ships do not pass there. And walking under the ice across the pole is a risk incommensurable with profit. But progress does not stand still and perhaps in the future, but not now ....

[corpse]

The use of updated transport and logistics formulas is expected to reduce travel time from China to Russia and further to Europe. At the same time, it is the logistics terminal in the Moscow Region that will become the main one for this kind of transit.

Nothing personal. Just business.
Beijing uses the territory of the Russian Federation to increase profits by trading with expensive and respected partners.

[Bingo]

You have to understand that what the hell is the damage to Russia from the fact that, being a transit country, it can take a percentage of the entire cargo flow in both directions and generally spit on the ceiling? But is it better, as it is now, to fully develop our road infrastructure, and in addition to money, and much more than just taxes on transit, to increase jobs and increase profits? For example, do the same Outskirts instead of anti-Russian schizophrenia - only on the trade of Europe and Russia, plus southern ports for the rest of the world - they could generally only live on one transit

[Normann]

Sorry, the master will not understand, there is an order - follow it silently, but leave your ideas about well-being.)

[I dare to_notice_]

"...cargo from China through Russia will be sent to European countries."
To do this, first, you need to return the red banner over the Reystag.

[Normann]

The Reichstag has not decided anything for a long time, and like all other NATO members, except for the owner.

[Consultant]

Yeah, how!? - Everything is decided by mythical reptilians in black hooded overalls, and whom no one has seen, but all NATO members are held hostage by them, and they are forcibly forced to fatten at someone else's expense.

[optimistkarus]

In Russia, it is necessary to build as many railways as possible, very convenient transport, relevant, profitable. All Siberia, the Far East should be in the railroads. Then there will be intensive development, sense. In the European part of Russia also add railroads.

[zloybond]

European volunteers have found a faster way to deliver goods needed for the Armed Forces of Ukraine from China through Russia???? Yes! no help for the enemy, only accelerated delivery of goods.