American expert predicted the fall of the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass when Bakhmut passed under the control of Russian forces

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American expert predicted the fall of the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass when Bakhmut passed under the control of Russian forces

Despite heavy losses and difficulties in supplying the group of troops in Bakhmut (Artemovsk), Zelensky does not intend to surrender the city. According to retired US Marine Corps intelligence officer Scott Ritter, Kiev fears that with the fall of Bakhmut, the entire defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will crumble.

According to the American expert, the loss of Bakhmut can lead to the fall of the entire defense built in the Donbass, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine can quickly lose control over these territories. This is precisely what Zelensky fears, who has been told the possible consequences of losing the city. The defeat in the Donbass will force the Armed Forces of Ukraine to retreat from their positions in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.



(...) President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky was warned about the collapse of the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the event of the defeat of the group in Artemivsk, which is why he fights so hard

- said a retired officer.

At the same time, ex-adviser to the head of the Pentagon, Douglas McGregor, believes that Bakhmut actually fell, the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the city are not able to stop the advance of the Wagner PMC assault detachments, and the supply of the group is carried out with great difficulty, since the Russian forces have established fire control over the only road linking Bakhmut with Chasovy Yar. The situation could have been changed by flank strikes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of Kleshcheevka and Opytnoye, but weather conditions do not allow the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to join the battle.

The day before, Alexander Syrsky, commander of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who is responsible for the defense of Bakhmut, reported to Zelensky about the plight of Ukrainian troops in the city and the impossibility of pushing back Russian forces. Meanwhile, the curator of the "Orchestra" Yevgeny Prigozhin confirmed that the "musicians" will take Bakhmut, the most important thing is to keep the flanks, which are covered by units of the Ministry of Defense.
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    1. +11
      April 2 2023 08: 48
      Ritter is the same expert as Yura Podolyaka. Damn what he said already, only now it does not come true. And if it were not for his frankly pro-Russian position, then no one would have listened.
      1. +3
        April 2 2023 09: 03
        It seems that our people are paying info-gypsies Ritter and Maggregor for such crazy statements. Either they, like Podolyak, found their audience, which can be poured into their ears. In fact, what will the capture of Bakhmut (Artyomovsk) mean now? What the enemy considers the area's defensive potential to be exhausted. Khinzirs will leave for new equipped positions in the Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration.
        1. -1
          April 2 2023 11: 09
          Feeling right. We see the whole difference of approaches in the information war between Russia and Ukraine/the West. Ukraine/the West seek to influence us (i.e. the enemy), undermine confidence, sow fear, etc. And ours in their actions are aimed at their own population, to spread self-soothing thoughts, ideas that we almost won.

          TG channels Resident, ZeRada, Ritter, McGregor - this has nothing to do with analytics. These are tools of information warfare.
        2. -1
          April 2 2023 11: 49
          Bakhmut (Artyomovsk)
          Let's decide. Supporters of Zelensky call the city Bakhmut. Those who write Artyomovsk for Russia.
      2. -2
        April 2 2023 09: 40
        "There are no other "experts" for you (and for me and everyone). Only this is all designed for the naive and fooled who are not able to analyze the situation
        1. +5
          April 2 2023 09: 53
          I remember how experts like Shurygin and Podolyaki explained the reality in September to the excited masses, who two weeks ago they told how our missiles and shells smashed the Ukropov reserves that were gathering in the Izyum direction to smithereens. They said that everything would resolve itself, they drew the arrows of the final encirclement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass. The reality turned out to be that the AFU offensive nevertheless began, and even had some success. The result for the Khinzirs of that particular offensive is a near-total victory. Belgorod and Shebekino became front-line cities, our non-evacuated population was killed and imprisoned (not all, but many), the Kharkov region did not hold a referendum and did not even formally become part of Russia, the important Volchansk-Kupyansk and Kupyansk-Svatovo-Rubezhnoye roads were cut or completely captured, the RF Armed Forces were ousted from the north of the DPR and even parts of the LPR, the threat of an assault on Kharkov and a march to Barvenkovo ​​from Lozova was removed, the prospect of encircling Slavyansk from the west and northwest was removed.
      3. -3
        April 2 2023 09: 44
        Quote: The collective farm is a voluntary business.
        Ritter is the same expert as Yura Podolyaka.

        No, he's just another American "Vanga"
        1. 0
          April 2 2023 18: 20
          I was taken away about my passage.

          Quote from Fizik13
          he's just another American "Vanga"


          But it is most likely those people who do not know the history ....
          Vanga is a blind Bulgarian soothsayer, an explanation for young people, she is like Nostradamus, but in the 20th century ...
          So this is an educational program in history - along with it there were such people like: Anatoly Chubais, sorry Anatoly Kashpirovsky, Allan Chumak and others, they not only predicted your fate but also treated it in the late 80s.
          At the expense of Anatoly Chubais and Yegor Gaidar, not to be confused with the writer Arkady Gaidar, who tried to destroy the remnants of the USSR, i.e. present-day Russia, no matter how I will tell you later.
      4. +2
        April 2 2023 10: 13
        Quote: The collective farm is a voluntary business.
        And if not for his frankly pro-Russian position,

        And for that, thanks to him. Yes
        1. 0
          April 2 2023 10: 31
          There is no pro-Russian position there. There is disinformation. One of the methods of intelligence work
    2. 0
      April 2 2023 08: 55
      In every mention of Artyomovsk, there is a line to keep the flanks. Yes, we know what needs to be kept. No one will tell us the true situation on the flanks. without the help of "partisans".
      1. +5
        April 2 2023 09: 58
        Quote: tralflot1832
        After the bank was smashed, it is clear that not without the help of the "partisans".

        hi what bank was smashed?
        1. +1
          April 2 2023 10: 23
          Beloved Kramatorsk VK, look, there is a video and there are losses. It is coolly said: Among the civilians, no one was hurt. hiIt looks like the APU shniks in the basement of the bank organized something.
          1. +5
            April 2 2023 11: 20
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Beloved Kramatorsk VK, look, there is a video and there are losses. It is coolly said: Among the civilians, no one was hurt. hiIt looks like the APU shniks in the basement of the bank organized something.

            Thank you. I'll be looking... Yes
    3. +6
      April 2 2023 08: 57
      Artemovsk would have already been taken, if hundreds of missiles had not been spent on transformers, and bridges across the Dnieper would have been demolished, the supply of the group and the transfer of reserves for Bandera would have been complicated many times over.
      1. +4
        April 2 2023 10: 00
        Quote: Khibiny Plastun
        Artemovsk would have already been taken, if hundreds of missiles had not been spent on transformers, and bridges across the Dnieper would have been demolished, the supply of the group and the transfer of reserves for Bandera would have been complicated many times over.

        Unfortunately, modern warfare is also "experience, the son of difficult mistakes ..."
    4. +3
      April 2 2023 08: 58
      There are no such prerequisites until the Kramatorsk-Slavyansk defense line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is hacked and cleared
      1. +4
        April 2 2023 10: 05
        Quote: svp67
        There are no such prerequisites until the Kramatorsk-Slavyansk defense line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is hacked and cleared

        To be honest, there are no prerequisites for either a large-scale or local hacking of the defense line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        It is clear that our people expect to wait for the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ... Maybe right ...
    5. 0
      April 2 2023 08: 58
      Quote: The collective farm is a voluntary business.
      Ritter is the same expert as Yura Podolyaka. Damn what he said already, only now it does not come true. And if it were not for his frankly pro-Russian position, then no one would have listened.

      I agree, don't say gop until you jump over. But ordinary people need to hear something positive not only about the course of the special operation, but also about its future. Especially in retaliation for the work of the Ukrainian CIPSO (according to which everything is bad with us and they will win anyway, since the whole world is with them). Otherwise, it becomes quite sad.
      1. -2
        April 2 2023 09: 06
        Only now Scott and McGregor work for the CIA, carrying more than a year of dampening nonsense. But our media likes them.
      2. -2
        April 2 2023 09: 14
        Quote: South Ukrainian
        Quote: The collective farm is a voluntary business.
        Ritter is the same expert as Yura Podolyaka. Damn what he said already, only now it does not come true. And if it were not for his frankly pro-Russian position, then no one would have listened.

        I agree, don't say gop until you jump over. But ordinary people need to hear something positive not only about the course of the special operation, but also about its future. Especially in retaliation for the work of the Ukrainian CIPSO (according to which everything is bad with us and they will win anyway, since the whole world is with them). Otherwise, it becomes quite sad.

        Then ordinary people are not sorry. Well, not a drop, if, like a herd, they rush from one info-feeder to another. They are like people with no opinion, infozombies. Throw them food and circuses, and they will vote even for Lucifer, they are the same.
        am
    6. +4
      April 2 2023 09: 09
      In my opinion, this is the third article mentioning this nonsense, that after the fall of Bakhmut, Ukrainians will all run away across the Dnieper. I understand that this is nonsense. It is enough to see what heroic efforts have to be made to take Bakhmut. But why publish it three times?
    7. -2
      April 2 2023 09: 16
      The storyteller Scott Ritter did not take into account the powerful Krasny Liman fortified area - Slavyansk - Kramatorsk - Druzhkovka - Konstantinovka, which begins immediately after the Chasovy Yar.
      1. +1
        April 2 2023 09: 47
        By the way, there really is nothing serious behind this line of fortified areas. There it will really be possible to take cities by siege. And after the fall of this line, the APU will not have any reserves. And these fortified areas will not surrender and retreat. They have no more advantageous positions for defense. I think we will have to come to terms with the fact that nothing will remain of these settlements either.
        1. -3
          April 2 2023 10: 35
          It took the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and PMC Wagner more than a year to storm the Soledar-Bakhmut line with heavy losses.
          It will take another year to storm the fortified area - Krasny Liman - Slavyansk - Kramatorsk - Druzhkovka - Konstantinovka.
          At the current pace, strength and skill of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk fortified area will be taken no earlier than the end of 2024.
      2. 0
        April 2 2023 09: 57
        The red estuary has nothing to do with this row.
    8. +1
      April 2 2023 09: 22
      We are being hammered into our heads that Zelya is opposed to the opinion of his generals on the defense of Bakhmut. Like, even the Americans advise him not to cling to the city. They draw comparisons with the distraught Hitler, who also did not obey the generals or field marshals. For all the insignificance of this clown, I believe that he has someone to listen to from military and political specialists, and he has the right to choose, based on convincing arguments, to keep Bakhmut. If in our war with Germany, we were guided solely by military considerations, then we would not cling to the defense of Stalingrad, Sevastopol, Kerch ... we would surrender Leningrad, as our native libshiza now advises, avoiding the death of a million people in the blockade. According to this principle, Zele had to immediately surrender Mariupol, because he was in a complete blockade, worse than Leningrad. However, now the West is delighted with the "heroic defense of Mariupol", no one cares about the death of the civilian population ... And by the power of propaganda and the shameful exchange of the Azov militants, they will reach the "City of the Hero" in Ukraine.
    9. +1
      April 2 2023 09: 23
      Quote: Cheshire
      Throw them food and circuses, and they will vote even for Lucifer, they are the same.

      Such 90%, to whom throw food and circuses, around the world, and this has always been the case. Take Europe, a candidate for president or prime minister promises one thing, comes to power and does the opposite, and nothing can be done. In Ukraine, 73% voted for this Zelensky animal, because he promised peace, foaming at the mouth. What do we end up with? So, don't be so dismissive of people...
      1. -2
        April 2 2023 09: 33
        Quote: South Ukrainian
        Quote: Cheshire
        Throw them food and circuses, and they will vote even for Lucifer, they are the same.

        Such 90%, to whom throw food and circuses, around the world, and this has always been the case. Take Europe, a candidate for president or prime minister promises one thing, comes to power and does the opposite, and nothing can be done. In Ukraine, 73% voted for this Zelensky animal, because he promised peace, foaming at the mouth. What do we end up with? So, don't be so dismissive of people...

        The same number of people will vote for him. About it is not necessary to be dismissive - when people make themselves zombie fascists who hate Russia, which gave birth to them - for me, animals living with me have more loyalty, kindness and other human qualities. Re-read what I wrote above in full.
        Why did condoms come to power instead of presidents from time to time? Is the place cursed? It's not about people, I understand ....
        hi
    10. -2
      April 2 2023 09: 38
      I hope we will be informed about the losses of the APU in Artemovsk after its fall. How many souls did Zelensky put to the slaughter to keep him "in the name of the security of the West"?
      1. +1
        April 2 2023 10: 31
        In Soledar, 200-300 killed soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were counted on the streets
        after the departure of the Ukrainians.
        The rest were evacuated during the fighting.
        The same will happen in Bakhmut.
        There are heavy losses on both sides. Every night the dead and wounded are taken out.
    11. 0
      April 2 2023 09: 40
      There is no need to be an expert here, so as not to come to the conclusion that in the end the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be driven out of the borders of the LDNR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, since they are already the territory of Russia according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Matter of time. But it is really difficult to predict how events will develop further, in terms of the liberation of the Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev and Odessa regions.
    12. -5
      April 2 2023 09: 56
      The radical turning point in the war is already close - it remains to take 15% of Bakhmut and Avdeevka and their defense will be broken. Victory in your own is not far off
      1. +5
        April 2 2023 10: 14
        Quote: Batko_Makhno
        The radical turning point in the war is already close - it remains to take 15% of Bakhmut and Avdeevka and their defense will be broken. Victory in your own is not far off

        We fight on. No other is given.
    13. HAM
      +1
      April 2 2023 09: 56
      All these Western "experts" measure everything by themselves .... they even under the best conditions scrambled from Afghanistan, so that they could not catch up with them ... all the same, the mentality of the Kokhls, regrettably, is also our Slavic, to fight up to last...
      And the Americans never contact those who can answer them .... for them, the Yankees can impose sanctions, crap in all areas without shying away from pettiness, take at least sports, at least an ordinary meeting at the UN .. meanness for Americans as a second me, from to hit around the corner is always welcome ...
    14. +1
      April 2 2023 09: 58
      If the capture of Bakhmut-Artemovsk is so important, then why are only PMCs storming it? And why has the city not been encircled for a long time, like Mariupol? Why weren't they surrounded from the flanks? Or is it all about a secret underground metro, one end of which is located in the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, through which the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the city is supplied with food, ammunition, personnel and armored vehicles? And where in the city were the Armed Forces of Ukraine settled? At the champagne factory? Or does it have its own Azovstal with underground catacombs?
      The task of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was to build a multi-layered defense on the Energodar-Donetsk line. To close the exit for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Sea of ​​Azov. I hope this has been done. A large amount of building materials was delivered there.
      1. -4
        April 2 2023 10: 50
        "The task of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was to build a multi-layered defense on the Energodar-Donetsk line. To close the exit for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Sea of ​​Azov. I hope this was done. A large amount of building materials were delivered there."

        No one in the world has ever won a war by defense.
        The task of the Russian Federation is to repel the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, go on a counteroffensive and liberate Zaporozhye, Yekaterinoslav, blockade Kharkov, thereby closing a huge ring west of the Donbass and, after the elimination of all the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine east of the Dnieper, launch a powerful air and ground offensive to the west, to Kiev and Odessa.
        Without the capture and liberation of Kyiv and Odessa, there will be no peace - the entire land corridor to the Crimea is now easily shot through by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Sea of ​​Azov.
        1. +1
          April 2 2023 11: 19
          The tasks of both sides is to grind the enemy forces, after passing a small march to force them to surrender. But what will happen next, and how this surrender will be formalized on earth, then there is a great secret and no one knows what to do next with the Sumerians.
    15. +1
      April 2 2023 10: 56
      Quote: Terenin
      "Experience, son of difficult mistakes..."

      The smart ones learn from the mistakes of others, and the RF Armed Forces from their own. ((((
    16. +2
      April 2 2023 11: 02
      American expert predicted the fall of the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass when Bakhmut passed under the control of Russian forces
      . Let them snap, not all reserves have been exhausted ...
    17. +8
      April 2 2023 11: 16
      Friend and associate of Podolyaki
    18. +1
      April 2 2023 11: 17
      An expert (for the editors, an educational program) is a person who thoroughly understands the chosen field of knowledge. And how can this next vanga and the commentator from the article be fastened to the experts? It is already starting to set the teeth on edge and overdose from the abundance of references to the expert in the articles. Although these people are not.
    19. 0
      April 2 2023 11: 36
      Oh, this McGregor)) is a direct American spill - none of his cheers of patriotic forecasts came true in full)))
    20. +3
      April 2 2023 11: 52
      Nothing will end after Bakhmut, not after Ugledar, Kramatorsk, Kiev, Odessa, etc. There will be a massacre everywhere, so the supply must be completely cut off, and this has not been done for 14 months, which means everything will be as it is.

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