Chinese "sevens": "Four Guardians of the Middle Kingdom"

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Chinese "sevens": "Four Guardians of the Middle Kingdom"
The destroyer "Anshan" - the former Soviet "Record" - at the pier of the Naval Museum in the city of Qingdao. Author's photo


The famous destroyers of Project 7, which took an active part in the Great Patriotic War, today can be seen alive only in one country in the world - in China.



"Sevens" played an important role in the development of not only the Soviet fleetbut also Chinese. In our country, they became the first large-scale surface ships of the sea zone and marked an important step towards the creation of an ocean fleet. And in China, the four destroyers received from the USSR generally acquired the status of a “visiting card” of their Navy, having received numerous pretentious nicknames: “four diamonds”, “four King Kongs”, “four heavenly guards”, “four mighty warriors”, etc. .

For a decade and a half, they remained the largest combat units of the fleet, on which almost the entire future naval elite served. But if in our country all representatives of this series of destroyers either died in battle or were scrapped, then in China, out of four ships, three are preserved as monuments and museums. It remains only to envy ...


The destroyer "Taiyuan", the former "Zealous", in the city of Dalian. Author's photo

Mao's ambition


By the time the PRC was formed, not a single more or less large warship remained in the naval forces of the Celestial Empire. It was not possible to restore the sunken cruiser Chongqing, and all the combat-ready destroyers in the Kuomintang fleet went to Taiwan. Therefore, the desire of the Chinese leadership to acquire "status" ships is quite understandable.

In April 1952, a delegation headed by Xiao Jingguang, Commander of the Naval Forces of the People's Liberation Army of China, arrived in Moscow. The main topic of the talks was the purchase of naval equipment for the Chinese fleet. The ambitions of the guests, who wanted to receive not only modern destroyers, but also cruisers, did not arouse enthusiasm among the Soviet leadership. Since the heavy losses suffered during the Great Patriotic War, and the growing confrontation with the West, required the priority replenishment of the ship's composition of its own fleet.

However, the Chinese had enviable perseverance, it came to personal telephone conversations between Mao Zedong and Stalin. In the end, on June 4, 1953, Moscow and Beijing signed an agreement on cooperation in the naval field, under which the Soviet Union, in particular, undertook to transfer four Project 7 destroyers. But the Chinese comrades expected to receive the most modern ships and did not hide their displeasure . The future permanent commander-in-chief of the Chinese Navy, Xiao Jingguang, in general, boldly called the destroyers "scrap metal." Only after delving into the details and realizing that the USSR, under the agreement, is assisting in the construction of shipyards, transferring documentation, materials and equipment for the construction of new ships in China, as well as sending specialists and providing training, the guests from the Middle Kingdom changed their anger to mercy.


Xiao Jingguang (1903-1989) - admiral of the fleet, one of the highest ranks of the PLA. From 1950 to 1980 he served as Commander-in-Chief of the Navy; in the media, he is sometimes called the "Chinese Gorshkov"

For transfer to China, the destroyers Record, Resolute, Sharp and Zealous were allocated. All of them were laid in 1936 at the A. Marti plant in Nikolaev, then transported to the Far East in the form of separate sections and structures. Ships were assembled and completed by factories No. 199 in Komsomolsk-on-Amur and No. 202 in Vladivostok. The destroyers were handed over to the fleet in 1941-1942, and after the war they underwent repairs and modernization according to the TsKB-53 standard design.


The crew of the destroyer Record, 1946. Photo from the collection of Sergei Aprelev

The firstborn of the PLA fleet


The transfer of the ships took place in two stages.

According to Chinese sources, the first pair - "Record" and "Sharp" - was received by the PLA Navy on October 14, 1954. On this day, Chinese sailors settled on the destroyers in Vladivostok. Each of the ships of the detachment, which, in addition to the destroyers, included two submarines and two minesweepers, went to sea with two crews. During the transition, the Chinese, under the supervision of Soviet comrades, steered ships, worked with mechanisms and conducted artillery practice firing. On October 25, the detachment arrived at the port of Qingdao, and the next day the official signing of the act on the transfer of destroyers to China took place. The ships received new names in honor of the industrial cities of Dongbei (Manchuria): "Record" became "Anshan", "Sharp" - "Fushun".


The signing of the act on the transfer to China of the destroyers "Record" and "Sharp", October 26, 1954

About the names.

The press cited information that it was proposed to name the lead destroyer the name of the country's capital - "Beijing" (that is, Beijing), but the commander-in-chief Xiao Jingguang did not agree. He allegedly said: if China wants to see warships of domestic construction in the fleet, then the country needs a powerful industrial base. And the city of Anshan is the largest metallurgical and industrial center, the "city of steel." And the destroyer should bear the name of the "steel" city on board ... For some reason it seems to me that this story invented specifically for a patriotic magazine article.

The second pair of destroyers was handed over to China on 28 June 1955. "Resolute" was named "Changchun", and "Zealous" - "Taiyuan". The latter may have been called the Jilin at first, but I will talk about this ship later.

Officially, the destroyers were excluded from the lists of the USSR Navy later: "Resolute" and "Zealous" - on January 14, 1955, and "Record" and "Sharp" - six months later, on July 6. This introduced additional confusion in the dates published in different publications.

In general, there are a lot of errors, one way or another connected with Chinese destroyers. I confess, I am also not sinless: the Chinese names of the ships given in the book “The Legendary Sevens” published in 2007 do not correspond to reality. Since they are taken from Western publications - after all, one and a half to two decades ago, there was simply no other information.

Now the official Chinese data has become available. Here, for example, is a plaque on display aboard the Anshan museum ship:


However, even here there are "misunderstandings". Unfortunately, I do not speak Chinese, I use only computer translators, but they cannot accurately translate the hieroglyphs given in brackets under the word “Record”. They usually read them as "Bold" or something like that. And one of the options generally puzzled me - “Decisive”! Is it really a mistake again, now coming from the Chinese?

I will not bother the reader with a story about my research, but in the end I came to the conclusion that there was no mistake. It's just that, as I understand it, the word "Record" is absent in Chinese, hence such strange translations. Everything agrees with the names of the other three ships, which once again confirms: "Anshan" is definitely the former "Record".

Outwardly, the “four King Kongs” were almost the same. Perhaps the only noticeable difference is the following: on the "Sharp" and "Resolute" the visors of the shields of the 1st and 4th 130-mm guns had stiffeners, while on the "Record" and "Zeal" they did not.


Chinese sailors have fun in their moments of rest, 1954. Stiffeners are visible on the shield of the stern 130-mm gun. If the date of the picture is correct, then it was taken on the Fushun destroyer


Sailors banish the bow 130-mm gun, 1954

The history of the service of Soviet destroyers in the Chinese fleet was long, but very ordinary. This can be judged by the example of the leading Anshan. In September-November 1955, together with the destroyer Fushun, he took part in exercises to repel amphibious assault on the Liaodong Peninsula. On August 14, 1957, Anshan was visited by the head of the State Council of the People's Republic of China, Zhou Enlai. In 1959, the destroyer again participated in joint exercises with the land army, worked out counteraction to landings, fired 130-mm shells at old Japanese coastal fortifications.

In April 1962, the Anshan, together with the Changchun and Taiyuan sisterships, provides tracking and expulsion of the American destroyer De Haven (DD-727) from the territorial waters of China. The Americans repeatedly crossed the sea border, conducted radar reconnaissance and tested the reaction of a potential enemy. During this operation, Chinese ships entered international waters and approached the Japanese base of Sasebo. According to Chinese sources, this was the first time that surface ships of the PLA Navy had gone beyond the territorial waters of the PRC (that is, during the first 7-8 years of service, Chinese destroyers did not move more than 12 miles from the coast at all).

On June 4, 1962, the crew of the destroyer Anshan again received a delegation led by Zhou Enlai on board, and in August 1965 they rescued a North Korean fishing boat in distress, which fell victim to a powerful typhoon. In September 1970, the destroyer takes part in large-scale exercises organized by the Shenyang Military Region, during which the interaction of the fleet was worked out, aviation and land units of the PLA.


One of the Project 7 destroyers during a PLA Navy exercise, 1960s.

Modernization project 6607


By the end of the 1960s, it became completely clear that the main weapon destroyers - straight-line anti-ship torpedoes - are completely outdated, in connection with which a logical proposal arose to replace torpedo weapons with missile ones. The ship modernization project, designated 6607, included the installation of SY-1 cruise missiles in place of torpedo tubes, as well as the replacement of steam boilers and the installation of additional electronic equipment. The total displacement of the ship at the same time increased to 2 tons, and the maximum speed was reduced to 681 knots.

The destroyer Fushun was the first to arrive at the shipyard in Dalian for modernization under project 6607. In all likelihood, the work was completed in 1971. The rest of the sisterships followed. According to information given on board the Anshan museum ship, this destroyer was undergoing modernization from March to October 1974.


The destroyer "Fushun" after modernization. This is my old work, done on paper using an airbrush, but subsequently finalized in Photoshop. Compared to the image given in the book "Legendary Sevens", this drawing has a lot of clarifications made after the publication of the book (the shape of the superstructure, visors on gun shields, etc. has been corrected).


Rotary anti-ship missile launcher on the destroyer "Taiyuan". Author's photo

The Four King Kongs were the first major missile ships of the PLA navy. However, with their rocket weapons, the situation was rather complicated.

China managed to get P-15 Termit anti-ship missiles before breaking with the USSR, but mastering their production for Chinese industry turned out to be a difficult task. An unlicensed copy, produced at the Nanchang aircraft factory and designated SY-1 ("Shangyou-1"), turned out to be insufficiently reliable, and the operation of the destroyers' radar interfered with its homing system. The name "Shangyou" literally translates as "Upstream" and comes from the saying of Mao Zedong, included in the collection of his quotes (they say, "do not be afraid to swim against the current, then you will achieve a better result" - something like that).

The SY-1 anti-ship missile was rather bulky (weight 2 kg, length 095 m, wingspan 6,55 m), had a rocket engine and a powder booster, subsonic speed and a flight range of 2,41 km. Guidance system - inertial plus radar or infrared seeker. The advantage of the rocket is a powerful cumulative high-explosive warhead weighing 42 kg. Estimated hit probability is 510%.

In the 1970s, upgraded versions of the SY-1 rocket appeared, called HY-1 and HY-2 ("Hayin" - "Sea Eagle"). They were distinguished by an increased flight range (due to additional fuel tanks), as well as the presence of an improved radar altimeter and a new anti-jamming seeker. Missiles of the Shangyou and Haiying families could be launched from the same ship launchers.


Anti-ship missile HY-1 (without launch booster) on display at the Naval Museum in Qingdao. Author's photo


Anti-ship missiles of the HY-2 family in the military museum in Luishunkou (Port Arthur). In the foreground lies a powder starting accelerator. Author's photo

Veteran destroyers


In parallel with the modernization of the "sevens", China began the serial construction of new project 051 destroyers of its own design, also armed with Haiying missiles. The Anshan and its brethren lost the status of the most representative ships of the PLA Navy, but, despite their age, they continued to actively serve, participate in maneuvers and training campaigns.


The destroyer "Anshan" after the modernization of the project 6607

"Anshan" in May-July 1977 provided large-scale work organized by China to search for and raise gold and diamonds, which were allegedly located on the Japanese transport "Awa Maru", sunk in 1945 in the Taiwan Strait. Underwater searches continued for about three years, almost 10 thousand dives were made, but no jewels were found.

On May 19, 1980, during the mourning ceremony, the ashes of the statesman and one of the leaders of the Communist Party of China, Liu Shaoqi, were scattered from the destroyer Anshan.


"Anshan" in the Yellow Sea, 1986. Photo taken from an American aircraft

"Four Guardians of the Middle Kingdom" remained in combat formation until the turn of the 80-90s of the last century. "Fushun" (No. 102) was excluded from the fleet in 1989, "Changchun" (No. 103) - in 1990, "Taiyuan" (No. 104) - in 1991. And the former "Record", "Anshan", turned out to be truly record holder. It was decommissioned on April 24, 1992, having served in the fleets of the two countries for more than half a century! During his time in the PLA Navy, he traveled more than 200 miles. For a long time, she was the flagship of the fleet, many statesmen and military figures of China, including Zhou Enlai, Deng Xiaoping, Liu Shaoqi, Marshal Peng Dehuai, Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Xiao Jingguang and others visited it.

Despite the fact that the Project 7 destroyers were already considered obsolete at the time of their transfer to China, they fulfilled their purpose one hundred percent and became a real “forge of personnel” for the Chinese fleet. And the fact of their 50-year operation indicates that with timely repairs and careful maintenance, the Soviet "sevens" could become no less long-lived than the famous American "fletchers" and "gearings". Against this background, numerous complaints from our sailors about the design and quality of the destroyers' construction look somehow unconvincing.


Political studies on one of the Chinese destroyers of project 6607

Recognition of the role that Soviet destroyers played in the development of the Chinese fleet can be the fact that three of the four ships, after decommissioning, were turned into monuments and memorials. Currently, "Anshan" is an exhibit of the PLA Naval Museum in Qingdao, "Taiyuan" is a museum and a floating hostel in Dalian, and "Changchun" is installed as a monument in the city of Zhushan. I happened to visit two of them, and the next two publications of the cycle will be devoted to the story of the “sevens” museums.


The destroyer "Anshan" - a full-scale exhibit of the Naval Museum in Qingdao, 2019. Photo by the author
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  1. +17
    April 4 2023 03: 52
    hi
    Bravo! Great article!
    To the new author of VO (known for his books, probably ... Yes ) I wish you creative success! fellow
    1. +8
      April 4 2023 03: 59
      I join! Respect to the author, interesting to read! hi
      1. +9
        April 4 2023 05: 27
        Very interesting article. Thank you. Well, what can I say ... The next "galoshes", which, according to one person, only knew how to produce in the USSR ....
        1. +5
          April 4 2023 06: 29
          Weapons and galoshes. From the quote of one person, not even horns and legs remained. And from the meaning even less
        2. -1
          April 8 2023 11: 46
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          The next "galoshes", which, according to one person, only knew how to produce in the USSR ....

          "Fushun" (No. 102) was excluded from the fleet in 1989, "Changchun" (No. 103) - in 1990, "Taiyuan" (No. 104) - in 1991. And the former "Record", "Anshan", turned out to be truly record holder. It was decommissioned on 24 April 1992.

          Name Arleigh Burke Hull no DDG-51 Laid down 6 December 1988 Commissioned 4 July 1991
  2. +11
    April 4 2023 04: 40
    Beautiful ships.
    Sergei - with the premiere! The article turned out.
    1. +7
      April 4 2023 06: 32
      Quote: Tlauicol
      Beautiful ships.

      Italian school request The result of friendship with pasta in the 30s. A series of cruisers of the "Kirov" type is also based on Italian drawings. Nice ships too. Yes The Italians knew how to build beautiful ships smile They just didn't fight very well lol
      1. +4
        April 4 2023 07: 52
        Italians in general, as warriors, did not work out
        1. +3
          April 4 2023 12: 13
          This is on heavy ships. They fought boldly on light ships.
        2. +2
          April 4 2023 17: 25
          Italians in general, as warriors, did not work out
          It is after the fall of the Roman Empire that they have problems. And before that, they fought very well.
          1. +4
            April 4 2023 17: 48
            How many centuries ago? And then on Heller
            “Quite right,” the old man agreed graciously, and there was a mocking intonation in his voice. “But Italy is one of the least prosperous nations on earth. As for the Italian soldiers, they have no equal in the world for cowardice. That is why our country is doing so well in this war, and yours is doing so badly.
      2. +2
        April 5 2023 17: 07
        hi "Kirov", "Tashkent", "7" are really beautiful ships. Also, all classmates in armaments are simply plugged into their belts ... But the Italians have everything dumb in direct application. And with us .. they were used in any way, just not as intended. "Kirov" is more than a light cruiser. "Tashkent" is not a leader, but just an almost light cruiser. Sevens .. in terms of artillery, they are definitely re-destroyers. Some old pattern. The unit must be able to destroy an opponent in its class and run away from an opponent of superior class.
    2. 0
      April 5 2023 16: 50
      I remember these drawings and the description of the "Chinese URO sevens" from the "Marine Collection" supplement to the MK magazine of the late 90s. Glad it hasn't sunk into oblivion.
      Wishing Sergei continued success. good
  3. +5
    April 4 2023 05: 15
    Great article! Thank you!. Waiting for new, just as interesting. good
  4. +3
    April 4 2023 06: 19
    Thank you Sergey for an interesting article! good
    Once again, the Chinese comrades "pleased" them by calling the "Sevens" scrap metal. Did they want "30-bis" for free right from the stocks? Comedians. laughing
    In the seventies, it was difficult with monthly literature on the fleet, besides our "Naval Collection" there was only the Polish magazine "Mozhe", I subscribed to it, even in Polish, I had to use a dictionary, but it was worth it, sometimes there were articles amusing.
    Including about the modernization of the "Sevens" by the Chinese. The author of the article completely crushed this idea, literally writing that the modernization of these "ANTIQUE" destroyers is a clear overkill of Chinese technical thought and a waste of effort. Let's leave it up to him.
    Well, okay, no matter what is said or written there, the ships honestly served in both fleets and now delight the eyes of admirers of naval history live. smile
    1. +2
      April 4 2023 06: 32
      It was not possible to restore the sunken cruiser Chongqing,


      The light cruiser Chongqing is the former HMS Aurora, transferred by Great Britain to the Republic of China in 1948. The battle path of the ship is really impressive. During the Second World War, he participated in the Norwegian campaign, operations near Svalbard and Bear Island, landings in North Africa, the Sicilian operation, Operation Dragoon and the liberation of Greece. After the transfer, the cruiser became the flagship of the fleet of the Republic of China and took part in battles against the People's Liberation Army of China. However, already on March 2, 1949, the Chongqing team handed over the ship to the Maoists. After that, according to the Soviet and Chinese versions, the cruiser was sunk by Kuomintang B-24 bombers on the personal orders of Chiang Kai-shek. But the British version claims that the crew itself sank the ship in order to save it. "Chongqing" was raised by Soviet EPRON specialists and served as a floating barracks and storage ship, while changing several names. After cutting into metal from the cruiser, a nameplate and a ship's bell remained, which are stored in the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution.




      In the lower photo, "Chongqing" has already been raised by our EPRONs.
  5. Des
    +5
    April 4 2023 06: 30
    Many thanks to the author. An amazingly beautiful article about the PRC Navy and our support for the young socialist state. Good luck.
  6. +5
    April 4 2023 08: 07
    The secret to longevity is simple. That destroyer that I climbed (in Dalian) is overcooked. And most likely walked a little. Well, the climate is a bit better.
    There are many photos. Who needs it, I'll share.
    Interestingly, the fortification at the end of the forecastle (done throughout the series after the crash of the "Crushing") has been preserved and is clearly visible. Riveted. And so, traces of electric welding everywhere.
    1. +6
      April 4 2023 08: 30
      Valentin Pikul served on the "seven" during the war years. Here is what he writes about this type of ship:
      “Soviet destroyers of the Seven type are excellent ships with excellent combat qualities. They were armed according to the principle “you can’t spoil porridge with butter”, foreign reference books sometimes classified them as light cruisers. the firepower of the "sevens" was much higher than on the allied destroyers. But these ships, built for the internal seas of the USSR, could not withstand the ocean wave, which often broke the frames, crumpled the sides, their decks sagged from the load of icing. However, to honor our sailors, they took their destroyers out into any mess without fear. The war changed the standards of survivability requirements, and the so-called "margin of safety" completely satisfied our destroyers. For greater stability, the bottoms of the "sevens" were lined with a layer of ordinary oven bricks, and these bricks led our destroyers from disastrous critical rolls…"
      Half a century is a lot for a destroyer, it seems, yes, they are patched up there - over-patched. By the 80s, our "thirties" mostly stood in bases and rarely went to sea.
      1. +6
        April 4 2023 10: 23
        Quote: Waterways 672
        They were armed according to the principle "you can't spoil the porridge with butter", foreign reference books sometimes referred them to the class of light cruisers.

        "Tribes", "Somers" and "Mogadores" look at this statement by Pikul with bewilderment. smile
        Quote: Waterways 672
        But these ships, built for the internal seas of the USSR, could not withstand the ocean wave, which often broke the frames, crumpled the sides, their decks sagged from the load of icing.

        "Sevens" and in the inland seas suffered. On the Black Sea, the deformation of the hulls with skin cracks was a constant companion of Projects 7 and 7U.
        ... in the campaign on February 21, which took place immediately after the completion of the scheduled preventive maintenance, the ship got in full. Under the impact of 8-point waves, the deck sagged in the region of the 23rd - 26th frames, the pillers bent, cracks appeared in the flooring sheets. Corrugations formed in the outer skin on the 35th - 36th frames. Through the deformed doors and manhole covers, portholes under the forecastle, water began to seep. Were torn off and carried away by the sea, a view for a cable on the forecastle, 6 racks of railings, fenders, 2 ventilation fungi. Cracks formed in the shields of the 1st and 4th 130-mm guns, the left bracket of the large bomb release was bent, the glass in the windows of the wheelhouse was broken. Finally, with a sharp roll to port, the mainmast broke and fell into the water. The destroyer had to slow down to 12 knots and return to base.
        As soon as the repairs were completed, the “Smart” had a new test. On March 6, the ship took on board 170 fighters and at about 15.00 left Tuapse for Sevastopol. On the destroyer was a member of the military council of the fleet, divisional commissar I.I. Azarov. On the night of the 7th, the weather suddenly deteriorated. By 4.00 the wind increased to 7 points, sea state - up to 6. Cracks appeared in the forecastle flooring and the upper cladding belts from the blows of oncoming waves, water began to flow through the weakened rivet joints. The just closed skin in the area of ​​​​the 35th - 36th frames cracked again; corrugations formed in the outer skin between the 32nd and 46th frames on both sides. A transverse crack 0,8 m long appeared in the deck deck between the casing of the first pipe and the bridge; in the area of ​​​​the 94th - 96th frames - three cracks of 0,3 m each. 14 portholes, 8 watertight doors and 5 hatch covers were deformed and lost their tightness. About 300 tons of water entered the internal compartments. At 4.10 a wave tore off the attachment of depth charges and 4 B-1 bombs were washed overboard.
        © S. A. Balakin. smile "Savvy" and other destroyers of project 7U. MK No. 6, 1997.
        1. +2
          April 4 2023 10: 40
          Many of Valentin Savich's statements need to be approached with a fair amount of caution. request
      2. +1
        April 4 2023 13: 10
        Quote: Waterways 672
        Artillery automatic aiming "B-13" aroused legitimate admiration among our allies.

        Pikul is a good writer, easy to read.
        But ... the reliability of information (both historical and technical) is lame.
        "Tip" so-so
        The B-13 was superior to its British and German counterparts in caliber, elevation angles, firing range and projectile weight. The weak point of the B-13 was the relatively low rate of fire and low barrel survivability.
        S. A. Balakin called the B-13 "the most powerful and most unnecessary" gun in his monograph on Project 7 destroyers.
        1. +2
          April 4 2023 16: 34
          Quote from Digger
          S. A. Balakin called the B-13 "the most powerful and most unnecessary" gun in his monograph on Project 7 destroyers.

          Well, in the role in which our EMs were used - as floating batteries and coastal gunboats - the gun turned out to be just right.
          1. MSN
            0
            April 6 2023 12: 31
            Quote: Alexey RA
            as floating batteries and coastal gunboats - the gun turned out to be just right.

            for firing at coastal targets, such ballistics and, accordingly, low survivability are not needed. Depending on the depth of the rifling, the survivability of 130 mm was 160-450-900 rounds per barrel. And 127/38 shtatovskaya - 4600 shots. Even the German anti-aircraft guns 128 mm - 1500. They were preparing for the wrong war.
        2. 0
          April 4 2023 18: 24
          Quote from Digger
          S. A. Balakin

          Isn't this the current author?
          1. 0
            April 5 2023 10: 23
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Isn't this the current author?

            Judging by the mention in the text of the article of the book "Legendary Sevens. Destroyers of the" Stalin "series" - yes, this is it.
      3. 0
        April 4 2023 18: 12
        Quote: Waterways 672
        Artillery automatic aiming "B-13" aroused legitimate admiration among our allies.

        Which is very strange, since it was the B-13 automation that remained unfinished throughout the war. Perhaps it was about the SLA, right there - yes, one could envy.
        1. 0
          April 5 2023 10: 37
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Perhaps it was about the SLA, right there - yes, one could envy.

          So SUAO is also automation: wink
          Especially for the destroyers of project 7 in 1937 they created central firing machine TsAS-2, leading its lineage from the "central" of the Italian company "Galileo" (this system was installed on the leaders of the "Leningrad" type). The machine gun was located in the fighting compartment under the bow superstructure and made it possible to continuously determine the full angles of vertical and horizontal guidance of the guns while constantly monitoring the target or "self-propelled". Surveillance of the surface target was carried out using two 4-meter rangefinders located in the command and rangefinder post (KDP) B-12-4. In general, the system met modern requirements and was not inferior to the best foreign analogues.
          © S.A. Balakin
          1. +1
            April 5 2023 12: 57
            Alexey, my compliments! hi
            That's what I'm talking about - if we are talking about automating the aiming of the gun, that is, the corresponding power drives, then everything was sad, because they were not finished, and then Pikul exaggerated. But if he meant SUAO, then it’s a completely different matter - she was really good with the sevens
    2. 0
      April 4 2023 08: 40
      It's clear. It's like with the Lend-Lease "Libertos", they also walked for a very long time, but the whole bottom is in cement boxes.
    3. 0
      April 4 2023 20: 05
      The secret to longevity is simple. That destroyer that I climbed (in Dalian) is overcooked. And most likely walked a little.

      They all walked a little. Anshan traveled 38 miles in 100 years of service in China.
    4. 0
      April 8 2023 19: 56
      https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1UoNywL2WBggalG-OildR3Ex_mpHvD26h/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=113127140991582912853&rtpof=true&sd=true
      Link to a short tour of the destroyer. Photo in full size. Finally got to the computer. Year 2013.
      If something is wrong with the link, please let me know. For now, I'll leave the tab.
  7. +2
    April 4 2023 17: 22
    On May 19, 1980, during the mourning ceremony, the ashes of the statesman and one of the leaders of the Communist Party of China, Liu Shaoqi, were scattered from the destroyer Anshan.
    Surprisingly, he was rehabilitated back in 1980. I remember the expression of the Mao-Zedong era - "A swindler like Liu Shaoqi." An excellent article, a competent author, I reread his books with pleasure. I myself saw our "Seven" only in Inkerman, at the last berth at the cutting. I look forward to new posts.
  8. +1
    April 4 2023 18: 10
    Very interesting stuff, thanks a lot!
    However, you don’t expect anything else from Sergei Balakin :)
  9. 0
    April 4 2023 19: 25
    And how justified was the rearmament to missiles?
    (and should we mess with something like that...)
    1. +1
      April 5 2023 10: 51
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      And how justified was the rearmament to missiles?

      Apparently, the Chinese decided to hedge against possible problems with their first type 051 EMs.
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      (and should we mess with something like that...)

      And our Navy was confused by the "rocketization of torpedo EMs" back in the early 60s - on EM pr. E), and with anti-ship missiles "Termite" (modification U).
      Project 56-M was the luckiest - they were modernized during construction.
  10. +1
    April 4 2023 19: 59
    Only after delving into the details and realizing that the USSR, under the agreement, is assisting in the construction of shipyards, transferring documentation, materials and equipment for the construction of new ships in China, as well as sending specialists and providing training, the guests from the Middle Kingdom changed their anger to mercy.

    Most of all, "guests and the Middle Kingdom" were upset by the price. Each destroyer cost the Chinese 4 yuan, which, at the then exchange rate of 000 yuan / gram, was equivalent to 000 tons of gold. And the whole "agreement" was drawn to 000 tons of gold. Naturally, China did not have such gold reserves, therefore, after two years of negotiations, the USSR provided China with a loan at 237 percent per annum, moreover, the loan could be repaid with raw materials and agricultural products, which was beneficial for China.
    After that, the Chinese really changed their anger to mercy.
    1. +3
      April 4 2023 23: 15
      I read about this story with exorbitant prices, but something is not believable in it. It looks like there is some mistake here. 17 tons of gold in today's prices is 672 million dollars. An incredible amount for one ship.
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        April 5 2023 01: 40
        Why count in today's prices. In 1953, a troy ounce of gold cost $391, or $12,57 per gram. 17 tons of gold, respectively, 214 million.
        Today Arleigh Burke is worth $2 billion. If converted into gold at today's price of $65 per gram, that's about 30 tons.
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          April 5 2023 11: 55
          Quote: sergej_84
          In 1953, a troy ounce of gold cost $391, or $12,57 per gram. 17 tons of gold, respectively, 214 million.

          This is also a little to ... a lot!
          "Admiral Belgrano" cost Argentina a little less than 8 million dollars. It's still a cruiser.
    2. +2
      April 5 2023 12: 39
      Four class 07 destroyers were included in the Sino-Soviet agreement for the supply of the navy and for technical assistance to China in the construction of warships. In the treaty, the Soviet Union sold almost the entire naval system to China, from finished ships to production technology, for a loan of 610 million rubles at a low interest rate of 0,2% per year and sent specialists to train them in everything, repaying the loan not with gold, but agricultural products, allowing China to maintain valuable foreign exchange reserves.
  11. 0
    April 5 2023 04: 00
    The visor has no stiffeners, which means it is Anshan
    Still a visor.
  12. +1
    April 5 2023 13: 05
    果敢 —— Determined and courageous

    尖锐 —— 1, pointed and sharp; 2, the object is straight and steep; 3, describing the cold and harshness of the wind and the gloomy harshness of the sound; 4, sharp, sensitive and deep; 5, very specific, unambiguous and unforgiving; 6, tense and intense.

    坚决 —— (Attitude, action, etc.) Firm and determined, without hesitation.

    热心 —— Enthusiasts, enthusiastic, enthusiastic, interested and willing to do their best
  13. +1
    April 5 2023 13: 36
    The future permanent commander-in-chief of the Chinese Navy, Xiao Jingguang, in general, boldly called the destroyers "scrap metal."


    In September 1952 and early 1953, Luo Shunchu, deputy commander of the PLA Navy, led two missions to the Soviet Union to negotiate the purchase of destroyers. On March 12, Luo informed Zhou Enlai and Xiao Jingguang that the Soviet Union was not only selling "scrap metal" but also asking for a very high price, and on March 16, Xiao wrote back: "(Even if it's scrap metal), we still urgently need it! "
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      April 6 2023 04: 24
      Quote from: wanna
      informed Zhou Enlai and Xiao Jingguang that the Soviet Union was not only selling "scrap metal", but also asking for a very high price, and on March 16, Xiao wrote back: "(Even if it's scrap metal), we still urgently need it!"

      That's pretty much what I assumed. And not that the Chinese would be cheeky in the eyes of the Soviet comrades.
  14. 0
    April 9 2023 16: 21
    The Chinese love it! Turn all sorts of military and historical artifacts into museums. RIGHT!
    I remember the park. Stalin on the banks of the Sungari River in Harbin with a corresponding bust, as well as a museum based on the remains of the former Japanese detachment 731. If you are interested, read it.

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