“Russia has switched to a military footing without militarizing the economy”: the Italian press compared the industrial potential of the Russian Federation and Europe

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“Russia has switched to a military footing without militarizing the economy”: the Italian press compared the industrial potential of the Russian Federation and Europe

The Ukrainian conflict is beginning to demonstrate the failure of the Western military mechanism, while revealing the huge reserves of the Russian war machine.

As noted in the Italian edition of Analisi Difesa, European countries were not able to support mass deliveries of various types of weapons in favor of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. So, out of about 850 tanks, which are planned to be transferred to the Kyiv regime in 2023, only 250 are Western models (of which almost half are old Leopard 1s), the rest are Soviet-made.



The reason was clear from the start: European armies have few tanks (and few artillery)

- indicated in the publication.

The same is true for fighter jets. According to the author, the maximum that the Armed Forces can count on is the transfer of 30 MiG-29s from Slovakia and Poland, and possibly a dozen more of the same type from Bulgaria.

As explained, Europe cannot even cope with the supply of 155-mm shells. Kyiv demands the supply of 250 artillery ammunition per month. But even the United States plans to increase their output from only 15 to 25 thousand units. per month. In Europe, they declare their intention to increase the production of 155-mm shells, producing a million pieces in a few years, but "this is only enough for the Armed Forces of Ukraine for 4 months." At the same time, each of them will cost about 4 thousand euros, not to mention the multibillion-dollar costs of deploying industrial capacities.

We have an industrial problem, this is the key point

- said a senior EU official.

Under these conditions, in Brussels, it was decided to arrange deliveries to the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the expense of the available arsenals and begin to expand the production of shells in the EU. In the United States, 6,5 years are allotted for the formation of an appropriate industrial base. As a result, Europe will gut all its warehouses and will sit for years without ammunition.

The "Borrell plan" will further disarm the Europeans, while Ukraine will receive ammunition too late and in insufficient quantities

- indicated in the press.

At the same time, Moscow did not sit idly by and began to deploy defense production long ago.

Since the end of spring 2022, Russia has de facto switched to a military footing without the militarization of the economy. The largest companies in the industry work 7 days a week, 24 hours a day, in three 8-hour shifts. Thousands of workers, technicians and engineers are hired with excellent salaries, various benefits and conscription exemptions

- write in the publication.



As indicated, only for helicopters by the end of 2023 will there be a doubling of production - from 160 to 300 machines:

Of course, Russia has an advantage, because it has its own energy, steel and raw materials, and electronic components are easily found, despite sanctions imposed only by the West.

The opposite is true in the EU.

In Europe, skyrocketing prices for energy, steel (whose production is collapsing on the Old Continent) and raw materials, combined with skyrocketing inflation, are driving ever-increasing production costs and extremely long production and shipping times.

- noted in the Italian press, comparing the industrial potential with the Russian Federation.

As an example, story with self-propelled guns PzH-2000. The Bundeswehr handed over 14 of these installations to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 10 units were ordered in the German army to replenish their fleet, the first of which will have to wait until at least 2025. At the same time, it is indicated that most of the Western-style towed and self-propelled 155-mm howitzers supplied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already been destroyed, damaged or worn out in battles.

EU plans to arm Kyiv risk leaving European armies without equipment, while not having the proper effect on the combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine due to untimely deliveries

- the author considers.

In this regard, he opposes the "Borrell plan" and insists on the need to choose a different path to support Kyiv. According to him, EU / NATO partners should focus on large-scale modernization of their own troops, and only transfer Soviet / Russian products, including shells, to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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  1. +3
    31 March 2023 18: 31
    In 2023, the RF Armed Forces should receive 1600 tanks. Statements by the President of Russia on military-political topics in an interview with the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company.

    At the same time, Russian production, the military-industrial complex of Russia is developing at a very fast pace, at a pace that many did not expect. And over the same period of time we are the million instigators of this conflict, namely, they will supply, as they plan, to Ukraine this ammunition, over the same period of time, the Russian industry itself will produce three times more ammunition, which we are talking about. Even more than three times. So in this sense, we are concerned about all this only from the point of view that this is an attempt to prolong the conflict.

    But you mentioned there about other equipment, say, about tanks. We know about it too. The arsonists plan to send to Ukraine somewhere more than 400, 420 or 440 tanks. Everything is the same as for ammunition. During this time, we will produce more than 1600 new ones and modernize the existing ones. And the total number of tanks of the Russian army will be three times the number of tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Even more than three times. I'm not talking about aviation, the difference is many times simple there. Ten orders of magnitude.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4678087.html

    Uralvagonzavod (UVZ) works in three shifts and delivers at least several new tanks per day. The video from UVZ shows that its conveyors are filled with T-90M and, to a lesser extent, T-72B3M. BMPT "Terminator" and still rare T-14 "Armata" flash by.

    And we also have Omsk and a network of armored repair plants (BTRZ). Omsk used to be able to produce T-80U tanks, but now it is mainly engaged in modernization. It was there that the main modernization work began, after there was a smell of gunpowder and it was necessary to unload the UVZ conveyors for a new assembly. This year, it is expected that it will almost completely switch to new tanks only.

    https://argumenti.ru/army/2023/03/822341
    1. +2
      31 March 2023 18: 37
      As the Commander-in-Chief said:
      And we haven't even started yet!
      1. 0
        April 4 2023 19: 23
        It's just magical, considering that "SVO" has been going on for more than a year. All my life I dreamed of either dying on it or growing old. On the Internet I am looking for "how long will the mobilized serve?" and I get: "until the CBO ends."

        So maybe it's time to start? Or, as in tsarist times, will you have to serve for 25 years?
    2. +15
      31 March 2023 18: 42
      Quote from Orange Bigg
      I'm not talking about aviation, the difference is many times simple there. ten orders of magnitude.

      That's where the "highest mathematics." good
      1. -2
        31 March 2023 18: 54
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        I'm not talking about aviation, the difference is many times simple there. ten orders of magnitude.

        That's where the "highest mathematics." good
        hand face...
        1. -12
          April 1 2023 05: 05
          hand face

          The uryakalok have a holiday - the victory has come, they say the SU-77s are hiding on the far side of the moon and are ready to dive on NATO, but everything is bad in the angry west.
        2. TIR
          0
          April 5 2023 21: 01
          10 to the power of 10 times it turns out. Butter porridge with butter
      2. -1
        31 March 2023 18: 55
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        That's where the "highest mathematics"
        Everything is fine: an order of magnitude is ten times, respectively, ten orders of magnitude is a hundred times more. There are more than four thousand military aircraft in Russia. In Ukraine, well, if a couple of dozen.
        1. +6
          31 March 2023 18: 58
          Quote from: nik-mazur
          by ten orders of magnitude

          ^ 10 10
        2. +12
          31 March 2023 19: 20
          nik-mazur
          "ten orders of magnitude is a hundred times more]
          That's 10 billion times more by ten orders of magnitude. A hundred times is two orders of magnitude.
          1. +4
            31 March 2023 19: 58
            Quote from Igor
            Ten orders of magnitude is 10 billion times more
            It is truth too...
      3. +1
        April 1 2023 10: 52
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        I'm not talking about aviation, the difference is many times simple there. ten orders of magnitude.

        That's where the "highest mathematics." good

        For reference to lovers of arithmetic.
        One order - a difference of 10 times.
        Ten orders of magnitude - a difference of 10.000.000.000 (ten billion) times...
    3. -5
      April 1 2023 07: 02
      In 1944 alone, the industry of the USSR produced 29 tanks; the industry of Germany produced 000 tanks.
      What are these 1600 tanks compared to the production of tanks 80 years ago?
      1. +1
        April 1 2023 10: 56
        These are billions of rubles that need to be withdrawn from the economy
        1. 0
          April 6 2023 09: 44
          The military-industrial complex is the driver of the economy. Don't believe? Ask in UWB
      2. +4
        April 1 2023 13: 23
        Quote: Flibuster
        What are these 1600 tanks compared to the production of tanks 80 years ago?

        Approximately as many tanks are expected to be received in 15 years by the Polish Armed Forces in order to become the most powerful army in Europe ... Or is it 1,5-2 times less than there were tanks in the RF Armed Forces before the start of the NMD.
        This is a very respectable amount. If this year it is really possible to reach such a bar, then in the future this number may increase by 1,5 - 2 times - due to the deployment of the Omsk plant and repair plants that repair and modernize tanks from storage bases to full capacity. And two new repair plants are being built in the European part of the country.
        Well, the tanks of the first half of the 21st century are somewhat more complicated and technically perfect than the tanks of the first half of the 40s of the last century.
      3. +1
        April 1 2023 22: 09
        Lies. This is absolutely wrong information.
      4. -1
        April 1 2023 23: 28
        Quote: Flibuster
        What are these 1600 tanks compared to the production of tanks 80 years ago?


        these same 1600 tanks will shoot from a safe distance all 29 Soviet and 33 German tanks combined.
      5. 0
        April 2 2023 01: 54
        Quote: Flibuster
        In 1944 alone, the industry of the USSR produced 29 tanks; the industry of Germany produced 000 tanks.
        What are these 1600 tanks compared to the production of tanks 80 years ago?

        A tank today is not just a gun, armor and an engine. No need to compare 1944 and today. The tank has become much more complex and expensive. One T90 is worth several old tanks, if not a dozen (s)
      6. +3
        April 2 2023 22: 36
        So there the tanks were, well, completely different. You still compare the production time of the SU-35 and MiG-3 ...
      7. +1
        April 3 2023 10: 49
        So you are saying that in 1944 Germany produced more tanks than the USSR? (approximately 29000 USSR and 18000 Germany are tanks and self-propelled guns and lt and tt) Seriously? Moreover, in the 44th year, when the Germans were in full swing sculpting much more labor-intensive panthers and tigers.
        And about the difference in the amount of equipment produced in the Second World War and now - the equipment is more complicated and more expensive. Moreover, a significant part of the tanks and self-propelled guns of the WWII period are light vehicles with thin armor - the SU-76, T-60, 70, were made at GAZ. And the Germans have all sorts of Nashorns and Marders with Hetzers on the corners. And now the tank is an MBT. It's weird to compare them.
      8. +2
        April 3 2023 19: 17
        Germany in 44 could not even dream of 10000 tanks, let alone 33000. And we have one Tagil 10000 issued.
        1. 0
          April 3 2023 19: 34
          Germany in 44 could not even dream of 10000 tanks...

          Germany produced about 44 tanks and assault guns in 18.
    4. +1
      April 3 2023 18: 19
      UVZ, of course, will supply several hundred new tanks, but this plant and tank building is one of the few that can produce modern products. But it had to start a long time ago, because in addition to the fact that the tanks need to be released, it is also necessary to prepare the crews for new tanks, and they are very complex and you can’t even prepare the crew for the T-90M in a week. This should have started eight years ago.
      In other areas, such as UAVs, communications, modern artillery and MLRS, heavy infantry fighting vehicles, we are completely horrified.
      And without AWACS aircraft in adequate numbers, we have nothing to defend against analogues of Iranian mopeds.
  2. +7
    31 March 2023 18: 33
    850 tanks, which are planned to be transferred in 2023 to the Kyiv

    here are the nits! after this, one cannot forgive those countries that send equipment to the mime of tanks, they and the art of the rocket helicopters themselves! and in general they can send more equipment, as openly no one will honestly say who sends how much!
    1. +1
      31 March 2023 18: 56
      Quote: opuonmed
      here are the nits! after this, one cannot forgive those countries that send equipment to the mime of tanks, they and the art of the rocket helicopters themselves!
      maybe you're looking in the wrong place? can you look around? who was not ready?
  3. +7
    31 March 2023 18: 38
    Time will tell. I think that NATO will be able to "problem" its military-industrial complex. But for this it will take several years. And this time we should make the most of
  4. +4
    31 March 2023 18: 43
    "In 2023, the RF Armed Forces should receive 1600 tanks" ///
    ---
    What type?
    T-72 has long been out of production.
    New T-90 1600 pieces?
    Or after all, repaired and upgraded T-62, T-72, T-90 tanks from storage?
    1. Alf
      -7
      31 March 2023 18: 50
      Quote: voyaka uh
      T-72 has long been out of production.
      New T-90 1600 pieces?
      Or after all, repaired and upgraded T-62, T-72, T-90 tanks from storage?

      Well, what do you find fault with trifles? The king said 1600, so 1600...
      1. +2
        April 2 2023 01: 57
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: voyaka uh
        T-72 has long been out of production.
        New T-90 1600 pieces?
        Or after all, repaired and upgraded T-62, T-72, T-90 tanks from storage?

        Well, what do you find fault with trifles? The king said 1600, so 1600...

        Maybe he is the king, but you have not been a democracy for a long time. What is the name of your mode? Ask this question
        1. Alf
          -1
          April 2 2023 20: 53
          Quote from Matsur
          Maybe he is the king, but you have not been a democracy for a long time. What is the name of your mode? Ask this question

          Those who have not yet lost the ability to think soberly have long known ...
    2. +10
      31 March 2023 18: 52
      Production of new T-90M plus modernization of T-80BVM, T-72B3M, T-62M.

      T-90M model 2023 lit up at the training ground.



      https://dzen.ru/a/ZB89_EQQwX02I-um
      1. -12
        31 March 2023 19: 01
        Are new T-90 hulls being produced?
        It seems that only new towers are supplied to the old buildings?
        1. +10
          31 March 2023 19: 14
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Are new T-90 hulls being produced?
          It seems that only new towers are supplied to the old buildings?


          Who told you that? How then were T-90 tanks made for India and Algeria? And there were serious serial deliveries. UVZ could produce more than 1500 new tanks a year in peacetime. In the 80s.
          1. +7
            31 March 2023 19: 29
            He confused us with the Americans, it was they who rearranged the towers back and forth on their abrams without producing new hulls, but as far as I know, even they again launched the production of completely new tanks completely.
      2. -1
        April 1 2023 05: 06
        T-90M model 2023 lit up at the training ground.

        Interestingly, self-destruction was installed for him so that the enemy would not get it?
    3. +5
      31 March 2023 18: 55
      Together. 400-500 pcs. T-90M, about 1000 pieces. upgraded T-72B3M and T-80BVM and up to 300 pcs. T-62M.
      1. +2
        April 1 2023 23: 38
        Quote from: blackGRAIL
        Together. 400-500 pcs. T-90M


        in the second half of 2022 alone, troops in the NVO zone received more than 400 pieces of new T-90M. Now the production of tanks at UVZ has increased several times, this was facilitated by the unloading of UVZ from orders for the modernization of old tanks, which were taken up by other plants.
        Therefore, getting the same 1000 new T-90M tanks at UVZ by the end of 2023 is quite a real task.
    4. +6
      31 March 2023 18: 55
      "we will produce new and modernize existing also over 1600. "
    5. +9
      31 March 2023 18: 56
      Yes, from storage. In addition, the upgraded T-62M. Own production promises up to 400 T-90m, everything else is modernized old tanks. Against this enemy, with his capabilities - enough. I would like, of course, overwhelming technical superiority ... But what we have, we have. There would be more crews.
    6. -4
      31 March 2023 18: 58
      Quote: voyaka uh
      New T-90 1600 pieces?
      Or after all, repaired and upgraded T-62, T-72, T-90 tanks from storage?

      55x to hell yet ...
    7. +2
      31 March 2023 19: 08
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Or after all, repaired and upgraded T-62, T-72, T-90 tanks from storage?

      T-90 500 new, the rest are modernization.
      1. 0
        31 March 2023 19: 17
        They say now UVZ makes at least 2 new tanks a day, and more often more. A day. Now there are 3 shifts and the task is set rigidly. Let's say UVZ produces 3 serial T-90Ms per day. How many days in a year? 365. Multiply by 3 tanks per day. We get a figure slightly less than 1100 T-90M per year.
        1. +4
          31 March 2023 19: 45
          There are delays in production. So you should predict an average of 1-2 new tanks per day. Three - this is when everything coincided clearly.
    8. +2
      31 March 2023 19: 33
      72 in storage is full of bringing them to mind, there are still 80k and 90k in t h "m" to produce new ones.
      1. -1
        April 1 2023 23: 44
        Quote: Incvizitor
        72 in storage is full of them to bring to mind


        in order to return the tank from storage + upgrade, it will take almost the same time as the release of a new tank.
        1. 0
          April 2 2023 13: 16
          Even in money, I would make a bmpt out of them, anyway, I need to put it somewhere.
  5. +3
    31 March 2023 19: 03
    Quote from: nik-mazur
    Everything is fine: an order of magnitude is ten times, respectively, ten orders of magnitude is a hundred times more

    The basics of mathematics will help you))

    1. +6
      31 March 2023 20: 00
      How many mathematicians are there, it turns out ...
      1. +2
        April 1 2023 11: 04
        Quote from: nik-mazur
        How many mathematicians are there, it turns out ...

        The good news is that everyone's math is different.
        1. 0
          April 2 2023 02: 03
          Quote: Captain Pushkin
          Quote from: nik-mazur
          How many mathematicians are there, it turns out ...

          The good news is that everyone's math is different.

          Mathematics is one. Mathematics grades are different.
    2. +1
      April 1 2023 11: 02
      Quote from sdivt
      Quote from: nik-mazur
      Everything is fine: an order of magnitude is ten times, respectively, ten orders of magnitude is a hundred times more

      The basics of mathematics will help you))


      Why are you doing this? Extra knowledge adds extra sadness.
      Haven't you heard the story about the guy who lived happily on "two percent" from beer resale?
  6. 0
    31 March 2023 19: 14
    So, Europe and its army are the same paper tiger as ...
    1. +1
      April 2 2023 02: 04
      Quote from Igor
      So, Europe and its army are the same paper tiger as ...

      Just don't relax
  7. +2
    31 March 2023 19: 15
    Conclusions of the author of the article. "While EU/NATO partners should focus on heavy and accelerated rearmament and modernization of armored vehicles, artillery and ammunition, now the goal of supporting Ukraine on the battlefield can only be effectively achieved by targeting Russian/Soviet-type products.
    This means that, in the case of 122 and 152 mm artillery, howitzer ammunition must be found wherever possible on international markets, procured from the countries that use it and immediately invested in strengthening the industrial equipment of Eastern European partners whose factories are already have long been producing, and in some cases still producing, weapons and ammunition of the Soviet type, which the Ukrainian army is able to use immediately without the need for special training.
    1. +1
      April 2 2023 02: 07
      It is necessary to produce and drain them the ammunition that will burst in the barrel. But this is a one-time deal.
  8. +2
    31 March 2023 19: 46
    Let them think so. Very good. Our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours!
  9. +3
    31 March 2023 20: 03
    Quote from: nik-mazur
    How many mathematicians are there, it turns out ...

    no, not a mathematician
    just studied in Soviet times
    probably that's why I remember, at least the basics
  10. -1
    31 March 2023 20: 07
    Quote from Orange Bigg
    T-90M model 2023 lit up at the training ground.
    https://dzen.ru/a/ZB89_EQQwX02I-um


    With all due respect, don't spoil your karma!
    Link to Zen - a joke of bad taste (
    yellow resource
  11. +1
    31 March 2023 21: 03
    Again a heroic article. We have everything and they have nothing.
  12. +1
    31 March 2023 22: 27
    Europeans, who is to blame for the degradation of your economy and industry!
  13. -2
    April 1 2023 03: 57
    Correctly, Borel says that give the Soviet to Ukraine (only for this, according to the law, you need to ask permission from Russia, which is the successor to the USSR, where these weapons and BT were produced), and equip your armies with new ones ... otherwise Russia will drive the fleeing Ukrofascists to the Atlantic, and at the same time, he will pinch the local Nazis along the way, it will not seem to anyone. Tremble!!! And von Bleidenich on NATO !!!
  14. +2
    April 1 2023 04: 28
    When we start working for the war, I don't know if we can compete with them.
  15. +1
    April 1 2023 04: 59
    European countries were unable to support mass deliveries in favor of the Armed Forces

    It is now not capable, but after a while the industry will be developed and will be able to.

    In the United States, 6,5 years are allotted for the formation of an appropriate industrial base. As a result, Europe will gut all its warehouses and will sit for years without ammunition.


    The states sponsored the creation of the Bandera saloreich for the war.
    In the West, every year they arrange sales of leftover goods with a markdown of 60%, Americans crowd into stores in droves, this is necessary to clear warehouses and get rid of unsold goods in order to produce new goods for the next season to load factories. Russian sales are a pathetic parody of their sales, but that's another topic.



    Warehouses and bases are clogged with old weapons accumulated over 70 years, the West came up with a type of sale to dispose of weapons and clear warehouses to place new orders, this is bad news for the Russian Federation, which means the war will last 6.5 years, while the states expand production and a few more years to dispose of new weapon.

    will sit for years without ammunition

    As the British prime minister put it, weapons in the EU are needed to shoot Russians, so you should not spare cartridges.
    Moreover, each of them will cost about 4 thousand euros

    It's not a loss, it's a corporate profit.
    1. 0
      April 2 2023 02: 11
      Oooh, sober thoughts went. And then completely rosy comments
  16. +1
    April 1 2023 07: 28
    Some kind of too bravura article from the Italians. Or such a bravura retelling ...
    In the West, everything is bad with production, and shells, tanks, and cannon artillery will soon run out. And there were none in the West, and there was no one to work, and there was not enough production capacity.
    And we have workers, technicians and engineers receive excellent salaries. in the largest companies. Machines such as few people in the world have. And we don't have any more problems.
  17. +1
    April 1 2023 08: 55
    Quote: smerx24
    As the Commander-in-Chief said:
    And we haven't even started yet!

    Yeah, you still quote Medvedev here, today is the First of April)
  18. +4
    April 1 2023 11: 36
    Russia has an advantage because it has its own energy, steel and raw materials
    fi, what a backward country we are, because everyone knows that for development it is necessary to develop services and the stock market - that's where the power laughing
    1. 0
      April 1 2023 15: 35
      You can immediately see the economist. The stock market basically functions not for traders to earn money, its essence is in the speed and volume of investments. The system is not perfect, but it works, thanks to it the West has developed so rapidly over the past couple of centuries. And thanks to her, if necessary, they will easily and naturally organize the production of tanks and shells, missiles and aircraft. They do not do this because they are not going to fight with us, everything suits them at the moment - the Russians are killing the Russians, the longer the conflict lasts, the better for them.
  19. 0
    April 1 2023 11: 49
    And why should the geyropa strain to give something? Banderlog hold the front for a year and even successfully attack, sometimes. There will be signs of a serious crisis, the Masons will push through the "peacekeepers" from the satellite countries, with everything staffed and launch a transatlantic express. With Abrash and F-16. They seized the situation tightly and won't let the wrestlers win.
    1. -1
      April 1 2023 12: 02
      Quote: Essex62
      the masons ... grabbed the situation tightly and won’t allow the wrestlers to win

      So. Well, "masons" are, it seems, "unfriendly countries". And who did you drive here with the "wrestlers", I want to ask? Isn't it Russia?

      If this is a reservation, then according to Freud. Amen Yes
      1. 0
        April 3 2023 00: 28
        Hello my friend. You haven't been for a long time. Don't get sick?
        Freemasons are those who are all countries, friendly and not very on a short leash, after they muddied the flower garden in the Union and successfully mastered and monetized the results. They don’t have a country, they are above. There is a machine, but there is no country. On their own, the Saxons are there or God's chosen ones ... well, of these in general, but without a country. It's more convenient for them.
        And wrestlers are judoists, those who won the kneading race for the pipe. And the pipe, in the bourgeois Russian Federation, gives rise to power. Well, like Mao’s rifle, only more effective. And I ask you, don’t tell me what is not there. Everything has been discussed for a long time. Well, why run around in circles?!!! Of course, you can identify the winning clan with Russia, at this historical stage, but ... there are nuances.
  20. 0
    April 1 2023 15: 00
    Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5
    These are billions of rubles that need to be withdrawn from the economy

    1) There will be no economy unless Ukronazism is strangled.
    2) The military-industrial complex is part of the economy.
    USA will not let lie.
  21. +1
    April 1 2023 19: 37
    Russia, unlike Europe, is a self-sufficient country like the United States.
    All attempts by someone other than perhaps China, India, Iran and Turkey to do geopolitics are simply obscurantism ... Medieval times will not return ... for Europe as ancient for Athens or Greece.
  22. 0
    April 2 2023 13: 48
    Eh, young man, have you heard the joke of the Soviet times about the decaying West: to rot, then it rots, but what a smell! Thank you for telling us how everything blooms and smells in our country, but everything rots and decomposes in them. But we need the end result, on the front.
  23. 0
    April 3 2023 13: 43
    And the funniest thing is that, like a cherry on the cake, there will be a strike of nuclear weapons on decision-making centers., if suddenly it doesn’t reach someone the old fashioned way ....
  24. 0
    April 3 2023 19: 37
    Damn, and here again the tanks are counting how much they have / will have. Not tired yet? Doesn't historical experience (both 80 years old and half a year old) really teach that it's not about the number of tanks? (quantity is, of course, also an important factor, but not at all paramount).
    1. 0
      April 3 2023 23: 05
      That is what is paramount. Here are 60 thousand thirty-fours very effectively gored 1300 Tigers. And be them the same? Well, you understand.
  25. 0
    April 4 2023 20: 55
    I think that 4 tanks a day is very good.

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