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Stop the “printing press” of the US Federal Reserve and the “end of the world”: Delay on 48 hours

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Stop the “printing press” of the US Federal Reserve and the “end of the world”: Delay on 48 hours

On the Internet, another version of the sensation, which until recently had the code name "21.12.12", is rapidly diverging. Now this sensation came out under the code name "23.12.12".

V.Yu. Katasonov, Professor, Doctor of Economics, Chairman of the Russian Economic Society. S.F. Sharapova


NEW VERSION OF THE SENSATION ABOUT THE "END OF THE WORLD"

For several months, the world and Russian media have been actively exaggerating the theme of the possible stopping of the “printing press” of the US Federal Reserve System (US Federal Reserve System), which 21 December 2012 supposedly should occur. According to the authors of publications on this topic, 99- the summer lease of the "printing press", which was concluded between private bankers and US authorities at the end of 1913. Further, depending on the authors' imagination, various “doomsday” scenarios are drawn that must inevitably come after 21 December 2012 of the year.

At the beginning of this year. I made a publication on this topic, which was called "Once again about the" end of the world. " In the Fed the rent of the printing press expires? ". In it, referring to the Federal Reserve Act and other US laws, I briefly outlined the true legal status of the Fed and explained that the information about the “end of the world” that 21.12.12 is due to occur is another informational “duck”. By the way, drew the attention of the authors of the "ducks" that 99 years from the moment of the signing of the Federal Reserve Act falls not on 21, but on December 23. After that, the authors of the ducks were somewhat rebuilt, the code name of the sensation was changed to “23.12.12”. Thank God, the earthly life of mankind has been extended for another 48 hours.

Exactly one month before the events awaited by mystically-minded citizens, namely 23 November 2012, a sensational article appeared on the War and Peace website on 23 December 2012 - what’s the intrigue? Publication author - M.A. Zhukov.

Immediately I will note that in the material of M. Zhukov there are quite sensible thoughts and quite objective facts are cited. He rightly says that the US Congress provided the Federal Press Act with a “printing press” for private bankers to lease for a period of 20 years (it is clear that we use a figurative expression, strictly legally it’s about issuing a license to a private corporation to issue money ). That is, until the end of 1933. It is also rightly said that in 1927, the US Congress amended the law, according to which the license becomes perpetual. But under certain conditions, the congress has the right to revoke this license. By the way, in my publication I drew attention to the fact that these conditions have already come a long time ago and that American lawmakers not only have the right, but even have to revoke a license (without waiting for the mystical date).

FROM ESTABLISHMENT AGREEMENT

The merit of M. Zhukov, from my point of view, is that he (unlike many authors writing on the Fed) drew attention to the following circumstance: the activities of the Federal Reserve are determined not only by the well-known 1913 law of the year, but also by the constituent documents on the basis of which the said private corporation was created.

I will quote Zhukov: “Like any private institution, the Fed is created by the memorandum of association. And this contract, being a public document, should be accessible and stored in the Library of Congress. Question of questions: is it stored there? Is it available? Why is there no scanned copy or citation of its text anywhere on the web? He is not listed in the Live Journal journal of Andrei Filatov, where the latter quoted in detail almost the entire official organ, protecting the US financial system with a passion that you don’t often see in the US residents ”(reference: Andrei Filatov is our former citizen who has long moved to USA, lives in Florida and has LiveJournal in Russian, which is dedicated exclusively to the topics of the US Federal Reserve - V.K. I note that the lack of access not only to ordinary citizens, but even to American lawmakers to the memorandum of association of the Fed becomes a "breeding ground" for all sorts of conspiracy theories, conjectures and fantasies.

Not escaped such temptation and the author of the publication on the website "War and Peace". He insists that the “end of the world” may indeed come, but it stipulates that “it may come,” but it will not necessarily come. After all, the owners of the Fed are very resourceful and can come up with something. Nevertheless, it can “come” for the reason that the specified period of 99 years is supposedly laid down in the founding document on the creation of the Fed. Like this. The author of the material of the articles of incorporation did not see, but by the “deduction method” Sherlock Holmes “figured out” that the contract should have a specified period. Of course, in world practice there are cases of constituent agreements with a fixed closing date of an enterprise (company). But why should this model of the treaty have to be applied to the Federal Reserve? The author explains this in a rather strange way: because the founders had to make contributions in the form of gold to the charter capital of a corporation. Zhukov reminds: after all, then there was a gold standard all over the world, therefore it was impossible to issue paper banknotes without gold reserves. It's right. But why should gold be provided for a period of 99 years? The author’s entire explanation boils down to the following phrase: “For how long could the golden share capital be granted for the purpose of ensuring the Fed's cash issue? It is clear that not for 100 years, but for those same 99, as is customary in the practice of business turnover. ” I rummaged through the masses of literature, but nowhere did I find confirmation of the fact that this was “accepted in the practice of business turnover”.

The constituent documents on the establishment of banks do not provide for restrictions on the terms of the functioning of banks, but only determine the procedure for depositing funds in the authorized capital and the possibilities (procedure) for their withdrawal by individual shareholders. The term of 99 years, allegedly laid down in the agreement on the establishment of the Federal Reserve, I leave to the conscience of the author of the publication “23 December 2012 of the year - what’s the intrigue?”.

ABOUT GOLD CHARTER CAPITAL AND FRS SHAREHOLDERS

Well, the following thesis of the author in general can be classified as fiction. I would not analyze this "fiction" if it had not been clogged with our sites, newspapers, magazines (and some with a claim to "scientific"). Zhukov writes: “... in order to form the gold authorized capital of the Fed, it was necessary to find investors. And they were found as they were for the first (1791-1811) and for the second (1816-1834) of US central banks. The sources of gold collateral in these last two banks are known - the royal families of Europe, including the royal family of Great Britain. ” In fact, in any textbook for money you can read about how the US Federal Reserve was formed. As is known, it initially included 12 Federal Reserve Banks (FRB), the authorized capital of which was formed at the expense of commercial banks that became members of the Federal Reserve System. They contributed to the capital of the Federal Reserve Bank and part of their gold. For those interested in details on this issue, I can recommend a good book: Murray Rothbard. History monetary circulation and banking in the USA: from the colonial period to the second world war. Per. from English - Chelyabinsk: Socium, 2005

I do not exclude that members of the royal families of Great Britain and other European countries participated in the capital of the Fed (and continue to participate). But not directly, but only indirectly, through participation in the capital of those commercial banks that became part of the Fed. Let me remind you that the law permits participation in the capital of the Federal Reserve Bank and private (individuals), however, the participation share cannot exceed 25 thousand dollars, while an individual does not have the right to participate in the decisions of the corporation.

In 1913, Congress gave America the eternal debt slavery of a private Federal Reserve, giving it the right to print money and control the American economic system. Initially, 203,053 shares of the Federal Reserve were issued, of which approximately 65% belonged to foreigners, and the remaining 35% (around 72 000 shares) were distributed among US banks:
1. National City Bank = 30,000 shares;
2. Chase National Bank (later - Chase Manhattan Bank) = 6,000 shares;
3. National Bank of Commerce (later - Morgan Guaranty Trust) = 21,000 shares;
4. First National Bank = 15,000 stock.

The number of shares owned by the Rockefellers (the first two of the above mentioned banks) was approximately equal to the number of shares owned by the Morgans (the next two banks), i.e. by xnumx xnumx stock.

Among the foreign shareholders, the main ones were: London and Berlin Rothschild banks; Paris Bank "Lazard Brothers" (Lazard Brothers); Italian banks owned by Israel Moses Sieff; Hamburg Bank of Warburg (Warburg).

In the period between the first and second world wars, among the major shareholders of the Fed, Wall Street banks appeared such as: “Kuhn Loeb”; Lehman Brothers; Goldman Sachs.

One of the most profound researchers of the US Federal Reserve, Eustace Mullins "Secrets of the Privately Owned Federal Reserve" in the main book of the US Federal Reserve System, Eustas Mullins (recently deceased), gave the following layout of the main shareholders of the Federal Reserve, which includes as well as individual banks (as of 1970's): 1) Rothschild family; 2) Lazard Frerez (Eugene Meyer); 3) Israel Siff; 4) Kun Loeb Bank; 5) Warburg Bank; 6) Lehman Brothers Bank; 7) 8 Goldman Sachs of the Rockefeller and Morgan family.

In some cases, Mullins is forced to give the names of banks, since it was not possible to disclose the ultimate shareholders of these banks (individuals). At the same time, Mullins concludes that the share capital of the Fed is not dispersed, but is in the hands of a very narrow group of family clans. In the first place he puts the Rothschild family, the second - the Rockefellers. The contemporary US financial system researcher, Nicolas Hagger, gives a slightly different “layout” of shareholders: he is in the first place is the Rockefellers, and the Rothschilds are in the second (see: Nicholas Hagger. The Syndicate. The history of creating a secret world government and its methods of influencing world politics and Economy. Translated from English - M .: CAPITAL-PRINT, 2007).

SENSATION: "RUSSIAN TRACK" IN FEDERAL RESERVE

So the statement of the author of the material we are discussing that the monarchs of Europe were the "golden" shareholders of the Fed is the author's imagination. But he is still further. The “nail” of its publication is as follows: our Tsar Nikolai Alexandrovich Romanov (Nikolai II) made the main gold contribution to the Fed's capital. I have had to deal with this kind of "ducks" more than once. In my book “Gold in economics and politics of Russia” (Moscow: Ankil publishing house, 2009) I had to engage in debunking various myths about “royal gold”.

For example, the myth of the "golden contribution" of our king to the Federal Reserve. And also that “royal gold” from the safes of the Fed migrated to the gold reserves of the International Monetary Fund. Etc. etc. Unfortunately, this kind of "duck" is still periodically extracted from the pages of the books of the late professor of the Diplomatic Academy V.A. Sirotkin, who was studying the history of "Tsar's gold" (see, for example: Sirotkin, VA Foreign gold of Russia. - M .: Olma-Press, 2000; his own: Foreign Klondike of Russia. - M .: Algorithm, 2003) . By the way, the king's family did have a certain amount of personal gold (about 5,5 tons) abroad - in the English bank of Baring. It is known that it was there before the 1917 year. Information about the future of this gold is very contradictory. I do not exclude that any particle of this gold in inscrutable ways could really be in the vaults of banks that are part of the Fed.

Apparently, the story of gold, which Nicholas II introduced into the authorized capital of the Fed, M. Zhukov borrowed from V. Sirotkin. But Zhukov went even further. He "calculated" the "successors" of our Tsar, who, as he believes, today belong to the infinite wealth of the Federal Reserve (called the amount up to 2 trillions of dollars). The author writes: “... in the extracts of the Unified State Register of Legal Entities (the Unified State Register of Legal Entities of the Russian Federation - V.К.) - several legal entities whose total authorized capital exceeds many times the consolidated budget of Russia and its GDP, i.e. it is about trillions of dollars ".

Our efficient “Internet public” has already managed to “calculate” one of such legal entities (literally several hours after the publication of M. Zhukov’s publication). This is the Charitable Foundation "The World Institute of Christian Studies of the State and Law named after PA Stolypin." The President of the Foundation is a certain citizen G. Dolgoruky-Simansky. The name is very sonorous, monarchical. But the personality itself is very shocking. They can bring a full title, which the indicated citizen designates himself as:
Archimandrite George the Great Prince Prince George the Fifth Dolgoruky-Simansky, (ков кий кий кий кий ц ц ц али али али али али али али От От От От От От От X X) The sovereign of the Pskov Grand Prince of Smolensk, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Suzdal, Muram, Lviv, Seversky, Tmutarakansky Getman and the Patron of the Don and Kuban. Cossacks Advocate of Orthodoxy and Defender of Islam in Russia.

Dolgoruky-Simansky has many different companies with interesting names. The epatage of the citizen Dolgoruky-Simansky is manifested not only in magnificent titles, but also in the fact that the authorized capital of the funds and companies created by him are measured in hundreds of billions of rubles. This does not mean that he - the second Rothschild, quietly living in Russia. The point is, apparently, in the delusions of grandeur, and also in the fact that our legislation allows for a rather frivolous assessment of property contributed to the authorized capital. It is possible, for example, to estimate three chairs in a billion rubles. But this is already a conversation for professionals, leading us away from the topic of the Federal Reserve. According to Zhukov, the owners of the Fed at the end of this year are concerned only with one thought: how to avoid the return of gold and other property to citizens like Dolgoruky-Simansky. I think that the author is mistaken, and their concerns are completely different.

FEDERAL RESERVE - OUTSIDE THE LAW

It is a pity that journalists and even professionals (economists, lawyers, political scientists) are beginning to hunt for sensations, which most often turn out to be informational "ducks." However, many serious problems associated with the activities of the same US Federal Reserve, sometimes find themselves out of sight of journalists and experts. In particular, I have repeatedly had to write about the recently conducted audit of the US Federal Reserve (by the way, the first relatively serious audit of the almost century-long history of the Federal Reserve). By the way, the audit report is posted on the Internet and is not a “secret with seven seals” (see: Federal Reserve System. Opportunities for Giving, GAO-11-696, Jul 21, 2011, 253 pp .; posted on the official website of the United States Government Accounts Office: US Government Accountability Office).

So, according to the audit report, it turned out that the Fed had distributed loans to the largest banks in the amount of more than 16 trillions during the last crisis. At the same time, part of the loans (worth more than 3 trillion. Dollars) was secretly granted to foreign banks. Without coordination with the US Congress, which is strictly prohibited by US law. Not a single cent of loans issued at the time of the audit was returned to the Federal Reserve Banks.

Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke still (soon a year and a half will have passed since the publication of the audit report) has not been able to give any intelligible explanation to all these outrages either to the president or to the “people's elected representatives” or the American people. Is this not a reason to cover up a private “shop” called the Fed, without waiting for the mystical date 23.12.12?
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 27 November 2012 07: 08
    +1
    He issued 3 trillion and was not fired and did not resign himself. This says that very serious people are behind him and Bernanke really needs these people. And who said that the people behind the Fed will extend the lease. All power is in their hands and they don't give a damn what Obama or US citizens think. So Bernanke’s dismissal, which the author speaks about, is obvious to us, but not to them hi
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 27 November 2012 08: 39
      +2
      The stump is clear !!!
      Bernanke is a good performer. Therefore, it is needed. It is clear as a white day.

      With regards to the lease ... Well, not according to Zadornov: "From stupid ...". Those who really hold the reins of power there will not let it go. Because not stupid a priori. And the machine threshed, and will thresh. Simply because there is no other option and cannot be. And all these grunts on the topic "End of America, End of the World" - this is so ... for the plus signs, nothing more. There will be no end. At least, while the Morgan, Rothschilds and others don't think so.

      And Obama and the people of the United States ... Well, let's talk for Russia. wink A voluntary decision to cancel the lease, conducting it through congress and reviewing the system is really no more than an impeachment procedure for the president of Russia. Or losing EP in the election. Something like this. hi
      1. Homer
        Homer 27 November 2012 09: 11
        +15
        The maximum that can happen is a change of sign. The Federal Reserve will be renamed to some SRF or even to CSKA, and they will calm down on that.
        1. Arkan
          Arkan 27 November 2012 15: 16
          +4
          Quote: Homer
          The maximum that can happen is a change of sign. The Federal Reserve will be renamed to some SRF or even to CSKA, and they will calm down on that.

          This will not solve their problem. The debt is growing at a rate of one lam per minute, they used to solve this problem by starting the machine, but by "scrolling" this money at their place they had to get rid of "extra" inflationary money and make sure that they did not return to Well, now - when China no longer buys American debts, and the demand for the dollar is falling (a number of countries have switched to national currencies or gold in mutual settlements) - this opportunity is lost. You can, of course, finance various militants with this money, etc. ... - but this is already a game on the verge of a foul.
          1. Gluxar
            Gluxar 27 November 2012 22: 31
            0
            He will not completely solve it, but he will significantly untie his hands. The whole question is inflation, the United States is an ordinary country and inflation there may also jump. In any SLC = learning, it will be less destructive than nuclear collapse. For this, the analogue of explosives has been so carefully prepared for the past few years. The US Civil War is more than necessary, it is not critical for the United States. As they were a country of migrants, they will remain so. And for the growth of the economy, it is better to have more young and poor people than plump and wealthy people who do not want to work, but only consume. So the American apocalypse is not so fantastic. And the 3rd World War as an alternative is much worse for the USA itself. A little less than 100 years ago no one heard about the United States, perhaps the time has come for them to close themselves again in a new light and not come out.
      2. Ross
        Ross 27 November 2012 10: 04
        +5
        Banshee,
        Greetings Roman!
        Obama is the Rothschild protégé. Maybe someone will remember how, before his first election, he passed approval, as a candidate, at a personal reception at Madame Rothschild in France.
        1. wall
          wall 27 November 2012 12: 15
          +4
          Everything can be. But the real policy on receptions for camera flash is not done. Putin, at his inauguration, kissed Medvedev's wife on the cheek (as a greeting). What would it mean in a planetary sense?
      3. 11Goor11
        11Goor11 27 November 2012 14: 52
        +1
        Banshee
        There will be no end. At least So far, the Morgans, Rothschilds and the rest do not think so.

        + + + +
        Absolutely right. Well, what an idiot would arrange his own doomsday, just because "by law it is supposed to start the end of the world" laughing
        The end of the world may come, but only purely personal:
        Eustace Mullins (recently deceased), one of the most profound researchers in the US Fed.

        Too deeply investigated? sad
        1. Gluxar
          Gluxar 27 November 2012 22: 33
          0
          Look the wrong way. Ask a different question, but is it possible for the powers that be to benefit the collapse of the United States as a world hegemon and a policeman? Are some of the largest TNCs ready to acquire political powers?
      4. Gluxar
        Gluxar 27 November 2012 22: 25
        0
        Rent is one of the mechanisms. The process itself is important here. Printing of the dollar will not stop if the Fed disappears, just the state will take this function for itself. Considering what debts the US has, including to the Fed, I think this is a very attractive prospect. And the Fed can be made a scapegoat for all the sins of recent decades. This has already happened twice, why not repeat it again?
        1. Arkan
          Arkan 28 November 2012 02: 35
          0
          Quote: Gluxar
          This has already happened twice, why not repeat it again?

          This time it’s more complicated because it’s more global. There are too many people and countries in the world whose welfare is tied to the dollar. Saudi Arabia, for example, sells oil exclusively for dollars (such an agreement with the USA), which in turn causes demand for the dollar. As will the sheikhs behave if the dollar starts to depreciate? And if the sheikhs start selling their oil not for dollars, this will further complicate the ability of the United States to solve its problems with a machine. If the United States could so easily depreciate its currency (like any other country, for in order to lower the cost of their goods on the foreign market) - they would have done it long ago. They cannot reduce the cost of labor in the USA either (this will lead to an unpredictable increase in social tension with unclear consequences). At the moment, they are not smarter than They figured out how to demand from China to raise the yuan. The optimists. laughing
    2. Averias
      Averias 27 November 2012 09: 17
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Issued 3 trillion and was not fired and did not resign.

      That's cool, Ostap Bender is resting. But isn't Serdyukov a relative of this banker. Judging by the scale of financial scams, it could very well be :))
    3. DYMITRY
      DYMITRY 27 November 2012 09: 23
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      and was not fired and did not resign.

      The whole point is that the US president cannot legally dismiss the director of the Fed, although he claims it.
      1. Ross
        Ross 27 November 2012 10: 07
        +5
        DYMITRY,
        Very accurate remark! It is funny and sad at the same time, but the president of Russia also cannot dismiss, only assert, his director of the Central Bank.
      2. Arkan
        Arkan 27 November 2012 15: 30
        +1
        The trick is that every presidential candidate in the United States (who wants to be president for four years) is forced to ask for money for the election campaign from the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, who are "appointed" to this position for a slightly longer term (14 years without the right to renew their powers). - who appoints whom is a big question. And the president can dismiss the chairman of the FRS (President Reagan sacked Chairman of the Council Paul Volcker in 1987)
    4. Ross
      Ross 27 November 2012 10: 00
      +1
      Alexander Romanov,
      Gave out 3 trillion? More than 16 trillions, according to some publications even more and most importantly, all loans were transferred only to the founders of the Fed banks, and the amount of loans exceeds state. US debt! Strange coincidence?
      All foreign banks are recipients - banks of the Rothschilds, as well as in CityBank in the USA. The transfers were carried out by simple computer accrual and no one is going to pay a percentage for them, just like no refund is agreed anywhere.
      1. 755962
        755962 27 November 2012 15: 34
        +1
        The first article of the US Constitution reads: "Congress is authorized to mint a coin, regulate the value thereof and the value of a foreign coin, establish units of measures and weights." In fact, this function is performed by the FRS.

        The Federal Reserve is the U.S. most undemocratic institution. It is even called the "fourth branch of government." Moreover, his responsibility to the population is much less. Americans do not choose the leadership of the Fed. He is appointed by the president, but he is not free in this sense either: he will need money for the next campaign, which Wall Street giants can pay for. After all, the president is elected every 4 years, and the head of the Fed only once every 14 years.
        1. Arkan
          Arkan 27 November 2012 15: 40
          +1
          Quote: 755962
          in front of the population he has much less.

          In general, there is no responsibility to the population.
      2. Gluxar
        Gluxar 27 November 2012 22: 36
        0
        This is a very important point. Do not greatly exaggerate the significance of the Fed. Just compare its emissions and all existing liquid financial instruments. The Fed has a monopoly on issuing dollars, any major bank on the same unlimited issue of financial instruments denominated in dollars. And these are two big differences.
        1. Arkan
          Arkan 28 November 2012 02: 53
          0
          Quote: Gluxar
          This is a very important point. Do not greatly exaggerate the significance of the Fed. Just compare its emissions and all existing liquid financial instruments. The Fed has a monopoly on issuing dollars, any major bank on the same unlimited issue of financial instruments denominated in dollars. And these are two big differences.

          ))) I didn't mean it. If, for example, you dealt with the Fed and they "threw" you, you will not be able to bring a claim.
          In 1982, the California Central District Court ruled in John Lewis v. United States, which determined that the Federal Reserve Banks that are part of the Fed are not institutions that can be sued by individuals under lawsuit lawsuits. to government organizations and employees (Federal Law on the Prosecution of Tort Claims). This court ruling refers to the practice of applying the Federal Law on initiating tort claims against federal reserve banks and does not make any definitions regarding the status of the Fed as a whole.
          http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0
          %BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D0
          %B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 28 November 2012 03: 14
            0
            Unfortunately, Russia still depends on the Fed?
            1. Arkan
              Arkan 28 November 2012 04: 07
              +1
              Quote: studentmati
              Unfortunately, Russia still depends on the Fed?

              There is dependence (I must say "thanks" to Gorbachev and Yeltsin), but it is rapidly declining. In any case, recent trade agreements with China and a number of other countries are talking about this. IMHO.
    5. Ross
      Ross 27 November 2012 18: 52
      0
      Alexander Romanov,
      Sasha, here is a link to a speech by Lord James in the British Parliament about the Fed’s machinations of 15 trillions of dollars and his attempt to initiate an investigation in Britain:
      http://dokumentika.org/bilderbergskiy-klub/lord-dzheyms-blekchitskiy-o-tainstven

      nom-perevode-15-trillionov-dollarov-v-hsbc-dlya-korolevskogo-banka-shotlandii-sv

      yazannom-s-dzhey-pi-morganom-i-federalnim-rezervom
      1. Ross
        Ross 27 November 2012 18: 57
        0
        Ross,

        What 15 trillions of dollars look like:

        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2012/314/cbmt971.jpg
        1. Ross
          Ross 27 November 2012 19: 04
          0
          I recommend to everyone who is interested in the topic of gold laundering the Fed the following article with a lot of factual material:
          http://divinecosmos.e-puzzle.ru/Article97.htm
    6. Gluxar
      Gluxar 27 November 2012 22: 22
      0
      Here's how to steal. It was 3 trillion, now not. Serdyukov modestly cries aside, ashamed that such a rogue.

      As for the conclusions, power is just a word. The power of the dollar is based only on trust, as well as on all "non-gold" money. If there is no trust, then there will be no dollar. The Fed has been rude for the past 20 years, the boys are playing. I think this time they will not get out, but there will be no indicative flogging, because what is the United States without the Fed? Nothing.
  2. Engrim
    Engrim 27 November 2012 07: 14
    +1
    The Fed has too much power to refuse it, they will literally tear their asses, but they will not turn off such a profitable shop. It’s easier for them to put their people in the White House and Congress.
    1. Dock
      Dock 27 November 2012 07: 31
      +2
      Unambiguously, who will cut the goose that lays the "golden eggs"?
      1. Engrim
        Engrim 27 November 2012 07: 49
        +1
        Exactly. But it’s not a chicken, it’s rather a weed that has entangled half the world. It blooms beautifully, but what lives on due to many other plants is that they do not care.
      2. Pit
        Pit 27 November 2012 08: 01
        +2
        Quote: Engrim
        It’s easier for them to put their people in the White House and Congress.


        They already put them there. So wait for something enchanting is not worth it. All captured, for all paid.
    2. Ares1
      Ares1 27 November 2012 07: 52
      +3
      I agree. I will say more - their people have been sitting there for a long time. And the banks to which loans were issued, almost interest-free, are included in the pool of FRS banks. And loans went to kill Greece and Spain - to "raise" the liquidity of state bonds. Therefore, as we hear that the liquidity of government bonds in Russia is growing, then we will calculate the beginning of the end of the world. In one country. Although God - God, and Caesar - Caesar.
    3. mda
      mda 27 November 2012 15: 17
      0
      Quote: Engrim
      The Fed has too much power to refuse it, they will literally tear their asses, but they will not turn off such a profitable shop. It’s easier for them to put their people in the White House and Congress.

      while the Jews control ALL power In the US, the Fed will exist
  3. predator.3
    predator.3 27 November 2012 07: 57
    +2
    ... Is this not a reason to cover up a private "shop" called the Fed, without waiting for the mystical date 23.12.12/XNUMX/XNUMX? ...
    Interestingly, and who will be willing to cover this "shop"? B. Obama? Then I won't give a cent for his life, maybe the Congress and the Senate? they are unlikely to bark at their Fed masters.
    1. Joker
      Joker 27 November 2012 08: 02
      +2
      If someone wanted to do it already, it’s enough just to go live on TV and openly explain everything to the people, and then kill, don’t kill, when the people already know what’s going on, you won’t fool him.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 27 November 2012 08: 39
        +2
        Well it depends on what kind of people ...
      2. Engrim
        Engrim 27 November 2012 08: 47
        +5
        Joker,
        I'm afraid nothing will come of it. The vast majority of people only hear what they want to hear. Did you happen to watch the first debate between Romney and Obama? In short, it was like this: Obama was trying to explain that they have a huge budget deficit, that it is necessary to raise taxes for the rich, it is necessary to reduce the state budget. financing of some programs. Romney said that in one phrase one could say: "For all the good, against all the bad," that is, there is no need to raise taxes, we will reduce the budget deficit, we will win the crisis. As a result, Obama lost with a catastrophic vote gap and accusations of insecurity.
        People simply will not accept the fact that they will have to give up many benefits and lives at the expense of others. Especially Americans, so accustomed to their position.
        1. Homer
          Homer 27 November 2012 09: 16
          +9
          Quote: Engrim
          Especially Americans who are so used to their position

          They don’t look for good from good! Why should they change something. They are full, and the whole world sniffs in a rag.
      3. Igarr
        Igarr 27 November 2012 08: 59
        +9
        N. Starikov in one of the publications has the idea:
        John F. Kennedy in the 60s, delving into the Fed’s infringement, decided to return the US to a normal monetary system. (Now that’s what - a private shop provides money to the state, takes a fee for it, and even everyone is in debt to it.)
        Well, our John decided to start printing silver dollars. Even some volume was printed.
        Kennedy ended up in a hospital in Bethesda. Silver dollars have become an expensive rarity.
        And nothing has changed.
        In Russia, we can blind ourselves with our eyes and erase our language - by reading and discussing the Fed. And in the United States, for one who opens his eyes, there are a dozen of those who close.
        They say - we arrange land sales at a 75% discount. And, maddened by greed ... citizens - forget about everything in the world.
        ...
        I wanted to say that ... it is much easier to put the "device" on this entire global financial system and live by yourself.
        So ...... Russia is already in the WTO. Now to leave it - you will leave naked. And a kidney will be cut out to pay off debts.
        ...
        Narul our ... gentlemen, comrades. Who to ask? And who will ask?
        1. Ross
          Ross 27 November 2012 10: 12
          +6
          Igarr,
          I’ll add to Kennedy’s account. Indonesian President Suharno provided Kennedy with gold security for his dollar. 300 million dollars from the state was printed, but the Fed gradually took them out of circulation.
          Both presidents, and Kennadi and Sukharno ended badly.
          1. Ross
            Ross 27 November 2012 18: 44
            +1
            Ross,

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        2. wall
          wall 27 November 2012 12: 23
          +1
          Quote: Igarr
          They say - we arrange land sales at a 75% discount. And, maddened by greed ... citizens - forget about everything in the world.

          Is it wrong with us? They will say: "Let's start the TV show DOM-3" and the same effect will be there. I, of course, exaggerate a little, but consumer instincts are already the same, both here and overseas.
        3. Gluxar
          Gluxar 27 November 2012 22: 45
          0
          The WTO and the Fed are completely different structures that do not have a direct relationship. You can exit without problems, but why. In the WTO, no one obliges you to sell for dollars, moreover, on the contrary, it becomes easier to pay in national currencies, as there are no unnecessary barriers, and hence intermediaries helping to overcome these barriers.
      4. wall
        wall 27 November 2012 12: 18
        0
        "It is enough just to speak on TV in a live broadcast and openly explain everything to the people, and then kill, don't kill, when people already know what is going on there, you cannot deceive them."

        You are funny. I thought so at 17)))
      5. DimYang
        DimYang 27 November 2012 12: 19
        0
        Quote: Joker
        If someone wanted to do it already, it’s enough just to go live on TV and openly explain everything to the people, and then kill, don’t kill, when the people already know what’s going on, you won’t fool him.


        Kennedy wanted to do that. Yes, I didn’t.
      6. Gluxar
        Gluxar 27 November 2012 22: 41
        0
        People know, and so if not stupid, but if not stupid then they can think. Today the Fed will close, tomorrow inflation will skyrocket and loans will rise in price. Need it smart?
    2. Gluxar
      Gluxar 27 November 2012 22: 40
      +1
      Well inappropriately so categorically. And Obama can do this, and any senator to raise this issue to a vote. The Fed is a powerful institution of power, but financial power. And it is still virtual in nature. No matter how much money you have, not everything you can buy. especially if the seller can simply take everything from you. Another thing is that there is mutual interest, but the conflict of interest is also serious ...
  4. patriot2
    patriot2 27 November 2012 08: 06
    +6
    Quote: Engrim
    The Fed has too much power to give up -

    That's the whole trick: for tons of cut paper, i.e. crush for candy wrappers for yourself and buy up most of the wealth of the whole world!
    Quote: Engrim
    weed entangled in half the world. It blooms beautifully, but what lives on due to many other plants is that they do not care.

    A rope twists for almost a hundred years, an hour of reckoning for this must come! am
    1. DimYang
      DimYang 27 November 2012 12: 32
      +5
      Quote: patriot2
      A rope twists for almost a hundred years, an hour of reckoning for this must come!


      Personally, I do not see any problem in this. All that is needed is for a single state to declare a hunt for the owners of the Fed and destroy them as quickly as possible. Difficult, but possible. And then a matter of technology.
      1. Jaromir
        Jaromir 27 November 2012 14: 08
        +6
        Quote: dimyan
        Difficult, but possible. And then a matter of technology

        Are you hinting at Russia? .. However, the thought is worth it! drinks
      2. Arkan
        Arkan 28 November 2012 04: 19
        +2
        Quote: dimyan
        All that is needed is for a single state to declare a hunt for Fed owners and destroy them as quickly as possible.

        There will be whining about anti-Semitism - Mama Do Not Cry. laughing
  5. arkady149
    arkady149 27 November 2012 08: 51
    +4
    So far, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke (a year and a half has already passed since the audit report was published) has not been able to give any clear explanation to all these outrages neither to the president, nor to the “people's representatives”, nor to the American people
    Anecdote about women: "Abraham gave birth to Isaac, Isaac gave birth to Jacob, Jacob gave birth to Judas and his brothers ..." - And where are women? - So this is the whole anecdote.
    The same can be said about the American people.
    1. T-130
      T-130 27 November 2012 10: 00
      +3
      Regarding the joke: among Jews, genes are transmitted along the female line, and here Abraham and others are unclear.
      1. alexng
        alexng 27 November 2012 10: 26
        0
        My dad is a hacker and mom is a hacker,
        sister, too, a hacker at least where.
        And who is not a hacker? Well, who is not a hacker?
        And the one who never saw the code
      2. DimYang
        DimYang 27 November 2012 12: 35
        +1
        Quote: T-130
        among Jews, genes are transmitted along the female line, and here Abraham and others are unclear.


        I’m also thinking, how could this happen? Guys do not give birth, and hermophrodites can.
      3. wall
        wall 27 November 2012 12: 35
        +3
        Quote: T-130
        among Jews, genes are transmitted along the female line, and here Abraham and others are unclear.

        In Jews, nationality is transmitted along the female line, you are our geneticist.
    2. Kaa
      Kaa 27 November 2012 11: 01
      +3
      Quote: arkady149
      : "Abraham begat Isaac, Isaac begat Jacob, Jacob begat Judas and his brothers ..."

      Even then, the principles of gay engineering were laid:
      "You find it funny, but I'm offended, your mother gave birth to you, and my father gave birth to me ..." laughing
  6. engineer74
    engineer74 27 November 2012 09: 07
    +2
    It turns out interesting: the state issues a license for an issue, and then it is bought upright by issuing banks. And who is the power there now?
    1. Ross
      Ross 27 November 2012 10: 14
      +4
      engineer74,
      And you compare with our Central Bank and see a lot in common. The absurdity multiplied.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 27 November 2012 11: 06
        +2
        With us, the Central Bank cannot print money uncontrollably. Their number is still determined by gold reserves, but if they change the law on the Central Bank ....
        1. Jaromir
          Jaromir 27 November 2012 14: 10
          +5
          Quote: engineer74
          Their number is still determined by gold reserves, but if they change the law on the Central Bank.

          This is where the war begins! They won’t let us go in a good way ...
      2. Fox 070
        Fox 070 27 November 2012 15: 32
        +5
        Quote: Ross
        The absurdity multiplied.

        Hi Zhenya!!! I read all your posts today and, I confess, I am depressed by the ideas you expressed and by what I read about this in various sources. I think that this is not an absurdity that multiplies, but we were squeezed ... tsa in a vice and twisted the gate, sadistically looking into our eyes. We cannot get out of this mess calmly and the only thing left to do to the cornered "Russian bear" is to burst out with a roar.
        Be strong, friends !!! As long as it becomes good, it will be very bad - it’s much worse than now and our task is to save the young generation, to prevent our civilization and our culture from disappearing.
        Many of us lived in a country that was at least somewhat different from the society built by the Jews and we know how it is to live without their dictates in all aspects of the life of the state. This period ended with the collapse of the USSR and all this kagal surged to us. Recently, THEY generally ceased to hide their intentions and openly launched a massive attack.
        Making forecasts in this situation is an ungrateful thing, but one thing I know for sure: I was taught to fight for my land and, if necessary, die for it !!! AND I WILL NOT SHAME MY TEACHERS ... soldier hi
  7. T-130
    T-130 27 November 2012 10: 08
    +4
    Bernanke can be replaced by an ordinary performer at any time by the owners, but this does not apply to the President of the United States because not one of them has exercised the right to dismiss the Fed director as regards the end of the lease term, since no one has seen this agreement, everything will remain as yes, bankers will agree among themselves and will continue to print paper.
  8. nsws3
    nsws3 27 November 2012 10: 43
    +2
    The President of the United States physically and legally cannot dismiss the head of the FRS, so something like that, and the head of the FRS is elected for a period of 16 years, i.e. can easily sit out 4 presidents. I advise you to read N. Starikov "Nationalization of the ruble - the path to freedom of Russia" there it is described normally.
  9. SSR
    SSR 27 November 2012 10: 46
    +3
    I just dropped out of the content of the article at this point.
    citizen:
    Archimandrite George the Great Prince Prince George the Fifth Dolgoruky-Simansky, (ков кий кий кий кий ц ц ц али али али али али али али От От От От От От От X X) The sovereign of the Pskov Grand Prince of Smolensk, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Suzdal, Muram, Lviv, Seversky, Tmutarakansky Getman and the Patron of the Don and Kuban. Cossacks Advocate of Orthodoxy and Defender of Islam in Russia.

    the black hole of the article for me .. knocks out ... as well as the article plus.
    1. wall
      wall 27 November 2012 12: 46
      +3
      Quote: SSR
      the black hole of the article for me .. knocks out ... as well as the article plus.

      That's what it is designed for. The longer the name when meeting, the faster the opponent will have time to forget what he wanted to ask the "lordship".))
  10. Wertynskiy
    Wertynskiy 27 November 2012 11: 59
    +6
    The situation is tragicomic to pain:
    1. The Fed is a private shop for the enrichment of a narrow group of people, capable of printing nothing unsecured pieces of paper and converting them into real goods, services, gold, oil, etc.
    2. The names of the holders of a private Fed store are interesting: the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Lazard Freres, etc. - i.e. Jews are everything.
    3. The US national debt is already $ 16 trillion.
    AND WHAT BASED ON ALL OF THE ABOVE DOES RUSSIA DO? VERY SIMPLE - SELLS ITS OIL AND GAS FOR CONVENTIONAL GREEN PAPERS, BUT AND DOES NOT CONVERT THEM TO GOODS, INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, GOLD IS NOT LATE, AND TRANSFERS THESE FUNDS TO STAB. FUND, THE MOST PART OF WHICH IS PLACED IN THE SAME USA !!!
    It is clear to any person with an unclouded mind - this is TRIETNESS.
    The dollar will collapse and Russia - BANKROT!
    1. bart74
      bart74 27 November 2012 12: 13
      +6
      So what is said. Lost in the third world. It is good that the GDP does not go to the State Department for an internship. Although who knows?
    2. wall
      wall 27 November 2012 12: 54
      -5
      Yes you are a prophet !!!! And we thought, who will reveal to us the essence of what is happening ?! Here you go! There he is! CAPSitan obvious!
      1. Wertynskiy
        Wertynskiy 27 November 2012 13: 12
        +2
        Hello captain non-obviousness. I wrote this to the fact that the article does not write the most important thing, namely the actions of the Russian leadership in relation to this organization, and this situation. Indeed, many people think that our stabilization fund is the money that Russia can use unlimitedly for its needs, but in fact it is not.
        1. Jaromir
          Jaromir 27 November 2012 14: 13
          +6
          Quote: Wertynskiy
          Indeed, many people think that our stabilization fund is the money that Russia can use unlimitedly for its needs.

          And who saw him, this fucking stabilization fund ?! Maybe he’s not at all! request
  11. Eraser
    Eraser 27 November 2012 12: 21
    +5
    For Smoke
    The whole point is that the US president cannot legally dismiss the director of the Fed, although he claims it.
    , a strange statement, firstly, not the director, but the chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, and secondly, the same Wikipedia writes "The Federal Reserve Act provides for the right of the President of the United States to dismiss any member of the Council (for example, President Reagan sacked Chairman of the Council Paul Volcker in 1987 .[eleven]).". Well, on the account "So, according to the audit report, it turned out that during the last crisis, the Fed distributed loans to the largest banks in the amount of more than $ 11 trillion. At the same time, part of the loans (worth more than $ 16 trillion) were secretly provided to foreign banks. Without the consent of the US Congress, which is strictly prohibited by US law. Not a single cent of the loans issued at the time of the audit was returned to the Federal Reserve Banks. "From the article, it seems, this is about this, from the same Wikipedia:" On video “Fed Inspector General Cannot Explain Where $ 3 Trillion Was Missing” during a Hearing before the House of Representatives Financial Services Committee Russian Congressman Alan Grayson (English) Russian. asks Fed Inspector General Elizabeth Coleman [9] about the trillions of dollars lent or spent by the Fed, and where exactly they went, and the trillions of off-balance sheet commitments. then the chief inspector does not know and does not track where this money is. (Judging by the report of the US Audit Office (GAO), it was about loans to primary dealers (PDCF) - overnight with collateral, that is, loans for one day, and the total figure for two years was given without taking into account returns [29]. that although the total amount of loans over the years amounted to several trillion dollars, the size of the loan at any given moment averaged only a few billion. The PDCF program was closed on February 30, 1, and all loans have been fully repaid to the Fed. PDCF loan recipients is available on the Fed's Board of Governors website. "
  12. WW3
    WW3 27 November 2012 14: 45
    +3
    Surely there is already a scenario according to which events will develop ... there will be no "end of the world" in this regard, but an attempt to "dump" 16 trillion. debt. possible ... it is necessary to get off the dollar dependence all payments for gas and oil only in rubles ...