“Leopard tanks are presented as a miracle weapon”: Czech general criticized Western propaganda

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“Leopard tanks are presented as a miracle weapon”: Czech general criticized Western propaganda

Western propaganda is trying to present to the layman the conflict in the square as a victorious march of the Ukrainian army and its supporting countries. However, the reality is not so optimistic.

The former chief of the Czech General Staff, Jiří Šedivy, believes that the Russian troops changed their approach to conducting the NMD after the arrival of a new command staff led by General Sergei Surovikin. Now the Russian Armed Forces are fighting according to the canons of a classic war, which in some cases resemble the battles of World War II. The Czech general believes that in general one can note the "rationalization" of the military thinking of the RF Armed Forces.



A typical example of a rational step was the withdrawal from Kherson. The Russians correctly assessed that they had disrupted the logistics of supplying the entire contingent on the right bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region, and the city itself could not be held without heavy losses in people and materiel. They simply left Kherson in an organized manner, although it was a politically very sensitive decision. They left not in disarray, but in a very organized manner.

- the general notes.

According to him, the retreat from the right bank made it possible to strengthen other directions, stabilize the front and, ultimately, move on to an offensive strategy.

Changes in the military organization are also noticeable. If earlier the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation were built on the brigade principle, now they are returning to the regimental structure. Unlike brigades, regiments that are part of divisions have greater mobility and maneuverability and require fewer resources for supply.



The general points out that the Russian troops “have learned quite well how to deal with drones and actively use them themselves. According to him, in the West they talk a lot about Iranian drums drones "Shaheed", indicating that the Ukrainian air defense is successfully fighting them. However, UAV data is mainly used to pull air defense systems and clear the way for a missile strike.

Even if the Ukrainians shoot down ten "mopeds", one or two missiles penetrate after them, causing fatal damage.

- the general notes.

Electronic warfare equipment became widespread, depriving the Armed Forces of the entire Bayraktar TB2 fleet:

The adored Bayraktars have already been de facto completely destroyed, as the Russians use electronic jamming systems in the fight against UAVs.


According to him, the poor equipment of the Russian army after the start of the mobilization campaign was widely reported in the West, and conclusions were drawn about the growing degradation of the troops:

But any mobilization is chaotic; it is never perfectly organized. The Russians had problems, but they dealt with them. Just look at the photos of Russian soldiers, they are not dressed like men from somewhere in Siberia, their equipment is at a good level. The Russians are learning and we should not underestimate them.




As the general explains, much of the misconception about the RF Armed Forces stems from a lack of knowledge about Russia, which is caused by active counterintelligence. Nothing is known about the plans of the military command, the real state of the economy. Under these conditions, fundamentally wrong decisions are made, for example, as in the case of the application of sanctions:

I consider this a fundamental failure, because it is impossible to impose sanctions against a state like Russia without first assessing their consequences for ourselves.


As the general points out, an incorrect assessment was given to the foreign policy position of the Russian Federation. It was believed that Western sanctions would be widely supported, and now "we are surprised that not everyone accepted them." On the contrary, Russia is expanding its strategic partnership, for example, with China, Iran, North Korea, South Africa, and Turkey.

We misjudged Russia's allied ties

- the general notes.

In his words, the conflict in the square is overgrown with propaganda clichés:

Transferred by the Armed Forces Tanks Leopard 2 is touted as a miracleweaponwhich is definitely not true. It's part of the propaganda. The Turks deployed Leopards in Syria against ISIS [banned in the Russian Federation] and lost at least 10 units in just a few operations.

It is customary to say that the Armed Forces of Ukraine practically do not suffer losses:

Many Western politicians do not know the real state of affairs in Ukraine. Only victories and everything is basically perfect

- said the general, criticizing such statements in an interview with CZDefence.
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  1. +2
    30 March 2023 21: 29
    Song in the style of Manstein: "Lost Victories" ...
    1. +8
      31 March 2023 05: 51
      Magog_ (Gog Magog)

      But such skepticism is in vain, I liked the article, I even read it to the end.)
      Sound thoughts are expressed by the general.
      1. +1
        31 March 2023 13: 31
        "I didn't understand you, please repeat!" I did not subject the quality of the article to criticism and skepticism. Our frank enemy confesses his impotence to destroy us. The same motives moved Hitler's underage Manstein when he sculpted his handwritten pamphlet, justifying himself to Western society why Russia had not been destroyed.
        1. 0
          31 March 2023 14: 05
          Hello, I reacted to the "song", I would have skipped the option "The same motives" with a plus.)
          I didn’t understand in the attack, sorry, Gog.)
      2. 0
        31 March 2023 18: 02
        I agree, amazingly sober analysis. If at the beginning of the SVO such an analysis would have been carried out by us, then many mistakes could have been avoided. But if this general is not listened to in the West, then I will only be happy about it.
        Let us continue to be underestimated .. They will have material for memoirs, like those of Manstein, Guderian, Gott ... "Pocpannye victories" in a new way.
    2. -1
      April 3 2023 11: 01
      It is urgent to replace Konashenkov with the former Chief of the Czech General Staff Jiří Šediva! He still has nothing to do, and Konashenkov will be useful to us at the front.
  2. +17
    30 March 2023 21: 34
    Rarely, for Western "experts" who broadcast to the public, a relatively competent assessment of the situation. soldier
    1. +7
      31 March 2023 00: 15
      Quote: tTshka
      Rarely, for Western "experts" who broadcast to the public, a relatively competent assessment of the situation. soldier

      In the West, this is a trend, as soon as a politician or a military man becomes an "ex", like this former chief of the Czech General Staff, they immediately begin to competently and reasonably cover the events and situation related to Russia.
      However, he recounted the obvious things regarding the expectations for Ukraine of the next "wunderfly", starting from Bayraktar to Leopard.
      Also, as he stated:
      look at the photo of Russian soldiers, they are not dressed like men from somewhere in Siberia

      Come to Siberia and see...
      1. +2
        31 March 2023 07: 20
        When you are in the general team, you have to grunt like everyone else to get your rations, and when you go to free bread, you can grunt and squeal as you like.
      2. +3
        31 March 2023 08: 32
        And God forbid this general really run into "men from Siberia", it won't seem enough
      3. Sly
        +1
        31 March 2023 12: 34
        Quote: Lynx2000
        look at the photo of Russian soldiers, they are not dressed like men from somewhere in Siberia

        Come to Siberia and see..

        Yes, he also neighed about their archaic ideas about us as medieval savages laughing
        1. +1
          31 March 2023 14: 18
          And yes, our Siberian proverb: "A Siberian is not the one who dresses warmly, but the one who dresses properly"! Here, in Siberia, since the time of development, we have always dressed accurately, pragmatically and comfortably (no matter what time of the year) - otherwise you cannot survive in a difficult climate. I understand that the image is poor and, not to understand how a person is dressed, they use it as a political shot. But this image even politically (not that practically) did not fit the Siberians at that time. Doesn't fit right now.
    2. +8
      31 March 2023 00: 40
      Quote: tTshka
      relatively accurate assessment of the situation.

      You're right. Because this person:
      1. held various positions: he was the Ministry of Defense of the Czech Republic, the Permanent Representative of the Czech Republic to NATO, he even held the position of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Therefore, he has all the completeness of information on the countries of the world, incl. and across the Russian Federation;
      2. he is not a member of any political party. Therefore, he is free in his judgments and conclusions;
      3. He was brought up by his father, who was a historian and was a good Foreign Ministry., That is, he knew how to analyze and draw the right conclusions.
      4. Jiří is undoubtedly a smart person, and he respects himself... that's why he tries not to lie, but to take a sober look at the world and its surroundings...
      Something like this. Yeah
    3. +1
      31 March 2023 07: 53
      The site offers a choice of language - Czech, English. I did not find the article in the English version.
      Yes, the article is interesting.
    4. 0
      April 1 2023 10: 04
      This general studied with us, he knows what he is talking about
  3. +6
    30 March 2023 21: 35
    It’s interesting how they become with the prefix ex, so they begin to say reasonable things, either they are torn off from the feeder and you can already say what you think, or they stop injecting, but some kind of toggle switch clicks in my head.
    1. +12
      30 March 2023 21: 58
      While you're at work and getting paid, you're a lamp slave like a genie
    2. +8
      30 March 2023 22: 09
      Quote: Arkadich
      It’s interesting how they become with the prefix ex, so they begin to say reasonable things ... some kind of toggle switch clicks in my head.
      I repeat, as the notorious Lord Judd used to say: - when you serve the Crown, there is only the opinion of the Crown.
  4. 0
    30 March 2023 21: 36
    The cunning Czech general is preparing his audience in advance for the defeat of Ukraine.
  5. 0
    30 March 2023 21: 40
    Tank-carriage for a cannon (s).
    And the Leopards have a good gun, but no more. HE is weak and shooting from closed positions is not provided.
    1. +8
      30 March 2023 21: 55
      Quote: Michael
      Tank-carriage for a cannon (s).
      And the Leopards have a good gun, but no more. HE is weak and shooting from closed positions is not provided.

      In principle, in general, indestructible technology does not exist. Leopards and Challengers will also burn.
      1. +6
        30 March 2023 22: 17
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        In principle, in general, indestructible technology does not exist. Leopards and Challengers will also burn.

        Adored "Bayraktars" de facto already completely destroyed

        Children are already running around Ukraine, whose birth certificates say "Bayraktar" and "Javelin".
        Will there be "Leopard Mykolaevych" and "Challenger Oleksandrovich"?

        Papuans - they are Papuans. Skakuas - they are skakuas. Can't live without cargo cult "wunderwaffel".
        1. +7
          30 March 2023 23: 05
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Children are already running around Ukraine, whose birth certificates say "Bayraktar" and "Javelin". Will there be "Leopard Mykolaevych" and "Challenger Oleksandrovich"?

          Will be in Europe. A sort of proof of the "transgender brain"
        2. -3
          31 March 2023 07: 12
          Here you have been thrown nonsense about baby names, and you are ready to believe in it, because it fits into your picture of the world. Ukrainians are horses, and any nonsense that will be written about them is true!
          1. +1
            31 March 2023 07: 23
            Quote: Mikhail Krivopalov
            Here you have been thrown nonsense about baby names, and you are ready to believe in it, because it fits into your picture of the world.

            This is not nonsense! These children with their parents were even shown on TV!!
        3. 0
          31 March 2023 09: 11
          Just like Conan Doyle. "The Adventures of Professor Challenger". Only in Ukraine.
  6. +15
    30 March 2023 21: 41
    Captain obvious.
    A country whose government is at war with God will not be able to win.
    Archimandrite Theodore. Kiev-Pechora Lavra
    1. 0
      31 March 2023 00: 13
      Quote: Fedor Rashkin
      Captain obvious.
      A country whose government is at war with God will not be able to win.
      Archimandrite Theodore. Kiev-Pechora Lavra

      Remember not in vain. There are a lot of atheists, myself included.
      And try to voice the percentage of clergymen who have crossed themselves - there is a temple, there are parishioners, there is income from parishioners.
      Offhand, I can calculate the percentage of those who crossed themselves - 90 percent. And I was killed by a gopnik drug addict))))).
  7. +9
    30 March 2023 21: 43
    Cleverly all expounded Shedivy. Perhaps the current generals think so, but do not have the opportunity to express their opinion ..
    I liked the professional and reasoned analytics.
    The site lacks weighted analytics.
    More emotion than analysis
  8. +5
    30 March 2023 21: 54
    Not badly said. Pretty detailed analysis of the situation. The former chief of the Czech General Staff, Jiří Šedivy, is clearly not stupid. And he is not afraid to express an opinion that is not popular in the West.
  9. 0
    30 March 2023 22: 02
    the "wunderwaffle" on which the command of the VSuchek relies, as the main support for the offensive .... is fraught with problems due to not knowing how the equipment will lead in the mud wassat and there will be a lot of THIS dirt now! .... it’s not like driving in Germany (where there are no such conditions))))
  10. +1
    30 March 2023 22: 17
    However, the trend is that there are quite a few retired military men and politicians in the West who say the right things that differ from the general line.
  11. +2
    30 March 2023 22: 39
    It is no coincidence that the Turks actively want to finish their own MBT (let's see what will actually happen), the experience with the Leopards showed a strong dependence on the service and that this is not a prodigy at all
    1. 0
      31 March 2023 07: 14
      A strong dependence on the service from what? Don't the Turks produce Leopard under license in full cycle?
      1. 0
        31 March 2023 09: 41
        Yah? Do they make a Turkish engine and a Rheinmetal barrel?
  12. +1
    30 March 2023 22: 57
    Just a nightingale song addressed to us.
    But the more pleasant the words of the enemy, the more dangerous this enemy.
  13. +3
    30 March 2023 23: 04
    In the West, the military often think soberly and more objectively than politicians. And this is understandable, they know the capabilities of their own and the enemy’s equipment, the real balance of forces, and they will die in the event of a conflict, unlike politicians. This is what: they crowed something obscene, and in which case they hid in the chicken coop, they don’t have to fight. Speaking of "Leopards": in the history of Germany there was already a "wunderwaffe" in the form of "Tigers" and what: they burned near Prokhorovskaya, then burned in the fields of Donbass and even in Germany on the Seelow Heights near Berlin, who said that the "Leopards" were not are burning. In Syria, Turkish "Leopards" were successfully set on fire by the ancient Kurds, like mammoth tusks, RPG-7.
  14. +7
    30 March 2023 23: 36
    Oh, General Shedives. Good expert. Unlike Scott Ritter, not even a pedophile. Well, sir, what did Pan General say in an interview with the same CZDefence publication a year ago?

    From a strategic point of view, Russia has already lost.
    ...
    It is the second month of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and Putin still does not have a victory, despite the fact that the aggressor army has a superiority in the number of soldiers and the amount of equipment. But he lacks the most important thing that the soldiers of any army should have: the determination to fight and die in battle.
    ...
    Speaking for myself, I did not believe that the Russian commanders were so poorly prepared and that they would dare to launch such an attack. I was also wrong that their positions are so weak that they will not be able to force politicians to change their minds and abandon the military attack on Ukraine.
    ...
    It is now obvious that Russian commanders and staffs are not trained in the conduct of modern warfare, in the handling of modern weapons and equipment.


    Now Pan General has changed his mind. In fact, the circumstances themselves have changed. But does the general say what Yevgeny Lyushilin ascribes to him?

    Lushilin:
    If earlier the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation were built on the brigade principle, now they are returning to the regimental structure. Unlike brigades, regiments that are part of divisions have greater mobility and maneuverability and require fewer resources for supply.


    Shedivs:
    However, today it is quite clear that the Russians have changed the system and are returning to the previously used concept of regimental structures. Regimental structures are not as logistically independent as brigade structures, but if they are part of a divisional structure, then they are relatively mobile. (Plukovní struktury sice nejsou tak logisticky samostatné jako brigádní, ale pokud jsou v rámci divizní struktury, jsou poměrně mobilní). And the regiments are logistically smaller in terms of non-combat structures and are more beneficial for a maneuverable combat method.


    Regiments are relatively mobile enough as long as they maintain contact with the division. While useless in battle, but necessary in the war, supply-medical-repairmen and other rear servicemen are hung on the division, and the regiments are maneuvering on the front line - the regiments are more maneuverable than the brigades that carry everything with them. But as soon as the regiments, due to the high pace of the offensive, the incompetence of the command, or / and other circumstances, begin to break away from the divisional rear, they will have a bad time. All these theoretical questions have nothing to do with the reality of the Northern Military District, where the front has been static for several months now. Most likely, Pan General continues some kind of intra-Czech disputes under the actual sauce.

    What follows is just a childish trick:

    Lelyushin:
    Just look at the photos of Russian soldiers, they are not dressed like men from somewhere in Siberia, their equipment is at a good level.


    Shedivs:
    Just look at the photo the fallen (padlých) Russian soldiers, they are not dressed like men from somewhere in Siberia, their equipment is at a good level.


    And then there are a lot of words about the successes of Russia, some of which Lelyushin translated, and some not. You will not translate such an achievement as "despite huge losses, propaganda still controls the Russians." Or "after the war, Russia will be an outcast anyway." And at the very end, Shedivy says what he really wanted to say. Because when Americans or Europeans talk about Russia and Ukraine, they usually talk about their internal affairs. So the general says two things:

    1. We do not need Turkey in NATO, there is no hope for it, it plays on 2-3 fronts, honest Sweden is better than this false ally, we will expel Turkey. And their Bayraktars are shit.

    2. Eastern Europe should not trust France and Germany. France and Germany impose their policy on small countries, but do not follow it themselves. They are already preparing in advance to trade with Russia, whether she wins or loses. And Leopards are shit. We must learn from Poland, which focuses on the United States and South Korea.

    In general, you can mark with a pencil. Pan General talks a lot about the bad policy of the Germans, French and Turks, but in no case about the bad policy of the Americans, the British or the Poles. He says that bad "Leopards" burned in Syria, but at the same time, "Abrams" are the best in the world, and not a word about how they burned in Yemen. He mocks the Bayraktars, but does not say anything about their successes or the loss of Czech and Slovak equipment in Ukraine. He praises Polish self-propelled guns (Korean bottom, British top), but forgets to mention that many of these have already been lost by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. While only one of the French and German self-propelled guns was damaged, Pan General is silent about this. He is simply the herald of the Anglo-Saxons in the fight against the Franco-Germans, and the NWO is just an entourage.
    1. +1
      31 March 2023 11: 36
      I completely agree! I am glad that there are still scribblers analyzing the primary sources, and not just haters and all-propagators, stupidly hawking information ... the resource has changed a lot for the worse both in terms of content and readers ..
  15. +1
    30 March 2023 23: 46
    "Western propaganda is trying to present to the layman the conflict in the square as a victorious march of the Ukrainian army and the countries supporting it" (with)
    If you look at the events impartially, then the facts are as follows: a year of hostilities has passed, Russia has grown about 15% of the former Ukrainian territories.
    If it is, according to propaganda, "victorious march of the Ukrainian army and its supporting countries"then - God help
  16. +1
    30 March 2023 23: 56
    they are not dressed like men from somewhere in Siberia,

    And what does this vegetable have against the peasants from Siberia?angry He talks about clichés and stereotypes and immediately uses both... fool
  17. +1
    31 March 2023 01: 28
    All analytics is nonsense and all sorts of generals in the General Staff can only draw arrows. The forecasts of NATO analysts and generals did not come true, and the forecasts of our analysts did not come true either. And now we have understood that it is better to remain silent in general and to say to any action of the enemy that it was intended and everything is going according to plan.
  18. +1
    31 March 2023 01: 48
    I did not understand how serious and popular the resource is CZDefence, where the Czech retiree was noted. Maybe it's a kitchen cabinet? Then take into account all his information with skepticism.
  19. 0
    31 March 2023 07: 46
    Again statements of the FORMER! Why are they silent while they are ACTIVE?! angry Or lose the position of non-comme il faut? feel
  20. 0
    31 March 2023 08: 28
    Well, let's say "wunderwaffles" even Hitler fed the Germans, now it's the turn of a new generation of fascists to show off their iron.
    Nobody argues, a good car, let's see how it burns, and there the conclusions will come up by themselves.
    The floor is now up to Bassoons, Cornets, Attacks, Lancets, Krasnopols and other strict quality judges.
  21. 0
    31 March 2023 11: 35
    "A typical example of a rational step was the retreat from Kherson. The Russians correctly assessed that they had disrupted the logistics of supplying the entire contingent on the right bank of the Dnieper in the Kherson region, and the city itself could not be held without heavy losses in people and materiel."

    Oh, stop continuing to hang noodles about Kherson! That is, it was enough to withdraw the troops of bridges and logistics, but to stock up with ammunition (as calculated for a year), instead of withdrawing, no?
    1. +1
      April 1 2023 10: 40
      What is the logistics? It’s just that there aren’t enough people .. It’s impossible to hold back six full-blooded divisions with two incomplete divisions .. And even without proper air cover .. Air supremacy remains on paper .. Ukraine’s air defense has been restored, at least at a tactical level ..
  22. +1
    31 March 2023 13: 55
    For the Western public, they created a beautiful picture of the continuous defeats of the valiant Ukrainian army under the leadership of the noble Ze and the demoralized Russian army in rags. Now they don't know how to leave.
  23. +1
    31 March 2023 20: 36
    [/ quote] I consider this a fundamental failure, because it is impossible to impose sanctions against a state like Russia without first assessing their consequences for ourselves. [quote]

    The general is finished...
    Now they will put a stamp on his lobeshnik "agent putin"
  24. +2
    April 1 2023 10: 37
    Until the Leopards burn at the level of the heirs of Soviet tank building, it’s too early to talk about their inferiority .. Instead of singing diferambs to the Cornets, tactical training should have been done to simplify burning tasks .. Simplicity should be effective ..
  25. -1
    April 3 2023 11: 02
    It is urgent to replace Konashenkov with the former Chief of the Czech General Staff Jiří Šediva! He still has nothing to do, and Konashenkov will be useful to us at the front.