The artillery unit of the Southern Military District received the first batch of the new Chrysanthemum-S ATGM

The artillery unit of the Southern Military District, located on the territory of the Republic of Ingushetia, received more than 10 of the new Chrysanthem-S missile systems on the tracked chassis as part of the state defense order for the replacement of anti-tank missile systems (ATGW) Sturm.

In the near future, it is planned to fully equip the compound with new ATGMs. Together with them will arrive representatives of the manufacturer, who will help personnel to master the new technology.

ATGM "Chrysanthemum-S" is designed to destroy the modern and promising enemy armored vehicles, equipped with dynamic protection, as well as fortification and engineering structures of the enemy, its surface and low-speed air targets, manpower.

ATGM is the most powerful of all currently existing ground anti-tank complexes. The large effective range of fire in all weather and combat conditions, high firing speed and security make the complex indispensable for conducting both defensive and offensive operations of the Ground Forces.

Comments

[YARY]

"Flowerbed" blooms and "smells"!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Ardent

The flowerbed "blooms and" smells "!

Ardent, well, why mock the authors of the names of the systems, let them sniff at NATO with the subsequent departure to heaven

[YARY]

Considering the whole spectrum of "Klumba" since the times of the USSR and the number of "allergy sufferers" SyShyA-it remains only to rejoice and "add" fertilizers!

[crazyrom]

On each machine on 2 rockets? It seems to me a little. Then you have to hide and recharge? It would be necessary to pieces 4-6 at least, because tanks rarely go on the same ...

[tronin.maxim]

Quote: Ardent

The flowerbed "blooms and" smells "!

Four colors are not enough!

[MilaPhone]

The main thing is that there would be an odd number.

[Lord of the Sith]

Chrysanthemum S

Self-propelled anti-tank missile system
Combat weight, t 19,4
Crew. 2
Developer of KBP OJSC
Years of operation with 2004
Type of armor aluminum bulletproof
weaponry
Firing range, km 0,4-6
Missile weapons 15 x ATGM 9M123 / 9M123-2
engine's type UTD-29
Engine power, l with. 500
Speed ​​on the highway, km / h 70
Cross country speed, km / h 52 (10 afloat)
Cruising on the highway, km 600
Type of suspension individual torsion bar
Fording, m swims


ATGM 9M123

Rocket 9М123 has four options:
9М123 - with a tandem-cumulative warhead and laser-guided guidance;
9M123-2 - with a tandem-cumulative warhead and guidance over the air;
9M123F - with thermobaric warhead and laser beam guidance;
9M123F-2 - with thermobaric warhead and guidance over the air.

The missile is made according to the normal aerodynamic design with diameter of the warhead 152 mm. In the tail part of the rocket is the rocket rudder drive, which are located in front of the nozzle block and are placed perpendicular to the axis of the nozzles. Missiles are capable of hitting targets at a range of 400 to 5000 meters when guided by a laser beam and from 400 to 6000 meters when guided by radio channel. The speed of the hit ground targets is to 60 km / hair - to 340 km / h. Rocket penetration with a cumulative warhead is from 1100 to 1200 mm.

[Kars]

Quote: Sith Lord

Chrysanthemum S

the military sometimes such retrograde.

[awg75]

good news --- Russia needs such a technique !!!

[leon-iv]

291st artillery brigade: 8 units. 9P140 "Uragan", 36 units. 152mm 2A65 "Msta-B", 6 pcs. 100mm MT-12 "Rapier", 18 pcs. 9P149 "Shturm-S".

[Samovar]

The "Chrysanthemum" has one significant drawback - having shot all the missiles, it becomes essentially useless. There is not even a machine gun - an elementary self-defense weapon (at least one PKT). By the way, IT-1 "Dragon" was closed for the same reason.

[ikrut]

Hmm. And in the photo that "Vladyka" posted, I clearly saw the machine gun. Kind of like 7,62. Or is this photo NOT "Chrysanthemum-S"?

[sergey69]

In the first photo, 9K157 complex battery management machine 4P9-123 is designed for:
combat operations planning and battery management of the Chrysanthemum-S anti-tank complex;
intelligence day and night in all weather conditions using airborne equipment;
calculating the parameters of detected targets;
displaying cartographic information on electronic tablets;
transferring received data on targets to other units and target allocation of batteries among military vehicles;
high-precision terrain orientation using on-board navigation devices;
course plotting for battery cars on an electronic map of the area.

[Speedy]

In all brigades, the set is 18 Sturm-S, the number 10 is somehow confusing .. Me and the number 18 is embarrassing (liquid PT line), but 10 ... as if they were not buying with sets, but how many fingers ....

[Setrac]

If it’s completely shitty, then the crew has machine guns, but in general, if the missiles are shot (I’ll pay attention that there are 15 missiles), then the car should not be at the front, but should go down to replenish the ammunition.

[Samovar]

Quote: Setrac

should not be at the forefront, but should go down to replenish ammunition

Well, it’s one thing that she should and another thing how it will happen in battle. All the same, it’s better to agree to shoot back with a machine gun from under armor than from an automatic machine gun.

[Kars]

Quote: Samovar

Well, one thing is that she must and another thing is how it will happen in battle

Then she still needs tank armor. SAM and feather bed.
To begin with, why did she make rockets with a range of more than 5 km?
Secondly, it is one of the principles that should not be on the battlefield.
And storming the trenches in the same ranks with tanks like Ferdinand should not be abandoned either.
This is all the same ATGM.

[Samovar]

Quote: Kars

This is all the same ATGM.

But this does not justify the absence of defensive weapons on it.

[Kars]

Quote: Samovar

does not justify

Why would Chrysanthemum make excuses? To put a machine gun on her so that some kind of indented servant would send her trenches to storm? Or are they chasing after spirits in the bushes?

On the air defense system, too, do not put machine guns, what now.

[Samovar]

Quote: Kars

Put her a machine gun so that some kind of in-line servant would send her trenches to storm? Or are they chasing after spirits in the bushes?

The "Akatsia" also has a machine gun, but no one sends it to attack.

[Kars]

Quote: Samovar

Akatsiya also has a machine gun, but no one sends it to attack

Acacia is a fool. And how often, according to statistics, she used her machine gun in Chechnya or Avganistan. And in retrospect, I don’t remember the machine gun in the early Soviet anti-tank systems, either on a bumblebee or at a competition.

[Samovar]

Quote: Kars

I don’t remember the machine gun in the early Soviet anti-tank systems, either on a bumblebee or in a competition.

Nevertheless, in the event of the expenditure of missiles, the machine becomes defenseless even against infantry. If the machine gun was not there before, does this mean that it is, in principle, not needed?

she is one of the principle that must not be on the battlefield

In modern warfare, battle can begin anytime, anywhere, and defensive weapons for these types of armored vehicles will not be out of place.

[Kars]

Quote: Samovar

However, in the event of the expenditure of missiles, the machine becomes defenseless even against infantry

She and the missile, in principle, is defenseless against infantry, as it is defenseless against artillery and aircraft

Quote: Samovar

If the machine gun was not there before, does this mean that it is, in principle, not needed?

As I wrote above, in principle, you need

Quote: Kars

she still needs tank armor. SAM and feather bed

Quote: Samovar

In modern warfare, battle can begin anytime, anywhere

You are not describing a modern battle, but an anti-terrorist operation somewhere in Chechnya.

[leon-iv]

She and the missile, in principle, is defenseless against infantry, as it is defenseless against artillery and aircraft
And what will the machine gun give her? Such things really need to be covered. And about the turret you need to look at the internal volumes. and sectors.
By the way, Chrysanthemum can work on helicopters.
And it’s easiest to give her infantry cover on the same BMP-3

[Samovar]

Quote: leon-iv

And what will the machine gun give her

I apologize for the counter question.
And what will her absence give her? At least in minimal terms, such a technique should be able to defend itself. But basically, without infantry cover, she has nothing to catch.

[leon-iv]

Inafiga she needs him. Whom do you scare 7,62? DRG and mine put and cut off competently. There only infantry will help. And if for example a platoon 2 BMP-3 and 1 Chrysanthemum-C by the way which has thermobaric BP. So if she wags it, then the Machine Gun is not needed. And if the infantry fails, then 7,62 will not help.

[Samovar]

Quote: leon-iv

You scare 7,62

Well don't like 7,62 you can add a cliff.

[leon-iv]

Well don't like 7,62 you can add a cliff.
Yes, you can screw the triplet. Thus, reducing efficiency in the main area of ​​activity. Most importantly NAFIG need it.

[bask]

Leon Please tell me ... anti-tank ,, chrysanthemum ,, Southeast Military District. Here it is precisely necessary to twist the trio. We will increase the combat effectiveness against the militants. They have no tanks yet. And the armored vehicles, the enemy’s, must be destroyed. MI-52 ... Armored vehicles are now needed to destroy the firing points of militants and cover the infantry with armor ...

[leon-iv]

bask
You have a misunderstanding of what is happening in the Caucasus and how to deal with it. What methods and means. A scalpel is needed there (FSB, MVD with VV), and not an ax (MO).
Increase combat effectiveness against militants.
Than a 100mm high ballistic gun? or 30mm gun? There, a maximum helicopter is needed with the NURS S-8 and the FAB, Mortars and UAVs.
PS and if the Hotz Schaub was all severely on the tracks, then the Host is needed. There are also mortar corners and a base of a motor-league.

[bask]

leon As for the militants, maybe you got excited. But you are right. But I think that they need the BMP-3M troops, self-propelled guns, Vienna ,, and thousands of units, just like the T-90-MS. It’s just necessary 100% rearm, brigades, southeast military district. And there you can wait for the appearance of new armored vehicles. Although, according to the info, everything is not so smooth there ... And there is also a border with China.

[leon-iv]

I think they need first of all BMP-3M, self-propelled guns ,, Vienna ,, And in thousands of units
Not certainly in that way. I remember my comrade Mechanic, when he was still a steam locomotive, we decided that it was better to wait for Taki Kurganets-25. In the meantime, at the landfills, work out the components of the LMS MTO and so on. That is why we see such "small" deliveries. For example, in the same Southern Military District, they conduct field tests.
As in the T-90-MS
Well, lope can be repeated Bukovka C in tanks means that the tank is export.
And the new T-72B2 slingshot about 2012 is not much worse than that. Especially in the SLA.

Until the modernization of enterprises and retraining of personnel is complete, we will not see a lot of new equipment, but it comes with a squeak. For working specialties in our perverted world are unfortunately not so demanded.

And there is also a border with China
And there is also the Strategic Missile Forces, the SA and the TNW, and the CCP knows about this. And they have more problems with Taiwan.

[Samovar]

Quote: leon-iv

And about the turret you need to look at the internal volumes. and sectors

Oh, and by the way, such an experience could come in handy. IMHO a good option.

[leon-iv]

Oh, and by the way, such an experience could come in handy. IMHO a good option.
here xs. I just think she doesn’t need him at all.

[Samovar]

Quote: Kars

You are not describing a modern battle, but an anti-terrorist operation somewhere in Chechnya.

Those. Do you exclude the possibility of a surprise attack by an adversary from an ambush in a modern war? Let’s say the war in Ossetia, it’s not like the WHO, but our ambushes.

[leon-iv]

Let’s say the war in Ossetia, it’s not like the WHO, but our ambushes.
And if such equipment is followed without infantry escort without covering an armored personnel carrier and infantry fighting vehicle, such a commander needs to go directly to the wall.

[Kars]

Quote: Samovar

Let’s say the war in Ossetia, it’s not like the WHO, but our ambushes.

it’s underprivileged, and the Chrysanthemums are not taking advantage of that conflict.
And for a modern war, suddenly from ambushes there will not be small arms fire but ATGM or automatic guns of which BRDM or BRM type. Under the small arms Chrysanthemum should not fall in principle. In the avant-garde units it has nothing to do, there will be tanks. And if it goes as part of the leading tank columns, then there’s nothing special to the extra machine gun.

Quote: Samovar

it seems not WHO

With a stretch like.

[Samovar]

Quote: Kars

With a stretch like

I agree here.

[leon-iv]

Why pull a hedgehog on a globe.
Chrysanthemums are an army reserve. By order of advancing, they shoot out from an ambush and dump.
This is not a linear division.

[viruskvartirus]

But still, a machine gun would not be amiss ...

[Kars]

AGS and MANPADS too. With a crew of two? They’ve got a place there for a machine gun. Except for course. And so it’s necessary to do a module with a machine gun --- with remote control. Also hiding like a PU rocket. Armor is also not good. So it’s better canopy for tracking and speed.

[Sergh]

Quote: leon-iv

Chrysanthemums are an army reserve. By order of advancing, they shoot out from an ambush and dump

Guys, maybe all the same this floating equipment is being prepared for the Airborne Forces? While in the field run, then they will take the Shamans.
It seems that with aluminum closer to the air discharge. Did you miss Al Che?

In these ranks Chrysanthemum asks.

[leon-iv]

here xs need to look at the weight characteristics. For the complex itself is never a feather. And by weight in the Airborne Forces special scores)))))
BUT most likely they will wait for the universal Hermes.

[Vasily79]

Yes, after five such claws you will dig into the ground unless you need outside help

[Samovar]

Quote: Vasily79

Yes, after five of these

Yeah ... especially after five thermobaric.

[Pacifist]

After them, if you stay alive, you will remember the distant ancestors of earthworms .... you will begin to dig into the ground with your teeth ...

[Pacifist]

A very decent system. I can't understand one thing. Modern war is built on the principle of "Discovered = dead", this applies to both people and technology. WHY are there no means of reducing thermal and radar signature on all supplied equipment? Okay, old technology, but newly supplied, because there is a "Cape" in its various versions ... sadness. Or they still get it, but they keep it in warehouses, on demand.

[leon-iv]

As a rule, all of these systems DIRECTLY reduce the engine's life because they upset the heat balance. In peacetime, they are forbidden to set.

[Professor]

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