Anti-aircraft guns KS-19 in Ukraine

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Anti-aircraft guns KS-19 in Ukraine
One of the KS-19 guns at the Ukrainian base


Ukrainian formations suffer heavy losses in the material part and are trying to make up for them by any available means. Often decommissioned weapons from storage bases are used. So, a few days ago it became known that the old 100-mm towed anti-aircraft guns KS-19 would return to the artillery units. A small number of such guns are going to be repaired and returned to service. But it is already clear that the results of such a "rearmament" will not live up to expectations.



Return to service


Until recently, nothing was reported about the presence of Soviet-made KS-19 anti-aircraft guns in the zone of the Russian Special Operation. In combat operations, a fairly wide range of artillery systems is used, including very old models, but the KS-19 products, for one reason or another, were not included in it.

Only a few days ago it became known that the Ukrainian side intends to return several such guns to service. In the tenth of March, first on Ukrainian, and then on Russian profile resources, a curious video appeared. An unknown Ukrainian cameraman filmed an object that looked like a repair base, which was attended by equipment and weapon recovery.

The video showed 11 towed guns, which are easily recognizable as old Soviet KS-19 products. The voice-over claims that the guns are trophies and were captured from the Russian army. Now they are going to be used against allegedly former owners.


One row of five guns

The statement about the trophy origin of the guns, apparently, is not true. The fact is that the guns are in an unsatisfactory condition. On the parts, the paint has peeled off and peeled off in places, there is rust, some carriage wheels are deflated. All this suggests that the guns were previously in storage and have not yet been trained for operation - and could not be used in battles.

The appearance of the guns suggests an unsatisfactory condition. It is likely that the shown KS-19s need not only to be reactivated, but also to be fully repaired and restored. It is not known how long all these measures will take and whether the Ukrainian artillerymen will be able to carry them out in full.

Nevertheless, it cannot be ruled out that 11 KS-19 guns from storage will still be restored and transferred to combat artillery units. In what direction and for what purposes they will be used, it will become clear later. At the same time, the possibility of successful use of such weapons is questionable for a number of reasons.

historical pattern


The future 100-mm towed anti-aircraft gun KS-19 (GRAU index 52-P-415) was developed in the mid-forties at the Design Bureau of Plant No. 8 (Sverdlovsk); chief designer - L.V. Lyulyev. The aim of the project was to create a new artillery system to replace the existing 85 mm 52-K gun.


Six more items

In the autumn of 1947, according to the finished project, an experimental batch was made for testing. Within a few months, all the necessary measures were taken, and in March 1948 the gun was put into service. In the same year, plant No. 8 began mass production of KS-19 products, and also helped other enterprises with the development of production.

Already in 1951, the gun was modernized, aimed at correcting the shortcomings identified during operation. The updated gun received the index KS-19M. Later, the system was transferred to a new chassis wagon - this version of the system was called KS-19M2. In addition, other upgrade options were proposed, incl. with the transformation of anti-aircraft guns into coastal ones.

Serial production of KS-19 guns and its modifications continued until 1957. Over the entire period, about 10150 items of all types were produced. Serial guns were supplied to the anti-aircraft artillery units of the Soviet army; plans to replace obsolete systems were completed as soon as possible.

By the end of the fifties, the process of replacing anti-aircraft artillery with new missile systems began. In this regard, the KS-19 and other receiver systems began to be gradually reduced. The guns removed from duty were sent for storage, put in museums or transferred to friendly countries. In addition, in 1955, the PRC received documentation for 52-P-415. Her licensed version of the gun is known as the Type 59.

Not later than the seventies, the Soviet army abandoned the KS-19 guns in air defense. At the same time, the coastal modification of the gun was still in service, which was later also replaced by missiles. However, the operation of guns in our country has not been stopped. A certain amount of KS-19 is in service with the paramilitary structures of Roshydromet and is used for controlled avalanching.


The breech of one of the guns

According to various sources, at the time of the collapse of the USSR, about 170-180 KS-19 anti-aircraft guns of the main modifications remained on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. They were in storage and had no clear prospects. Apparently, some of these products were sold abroad, and some were disposed of. As follows from the latest reports, the stocks of guns were not used up, and now they are trying to make up for the loss of artillery units with their help.

Technical features


The product KS-19 (52-P-415) is a 100 mm towed artillery gun for use in air defense. The gun with a carriage and shield cover is placed on a four-wheeled cart. The total mass of the system is approx. 9,4 tons. The towing of the gun was to be carried out by an AT-T or AT-C tractor at a speed of up to 35 km / h. Firing required deployment to positions and interfacing with anti-aircraft fire control systems.

The KS-19 gun received a 100-mm rifled barrel approx. 6 m (60,7 klb) with a slotted muzzle brake and a breech designed for unitary ammunition. The long barrel provided an initial speed of up to 900 m / s. Rate of fire - up to 15 rds / min. The carriage design provided full circular horizontal guidance and elevation angles from -3° to +85°. On ground targets, the gun could fire at a distance of up to 21 km. Reach in height - 15 km.

Especially for the 52-P-415, a wide range of 100-mm unitary projectiles for various purposes was developed. There were specialized anti-aircraft shells, incl. with a radio fuse, high-explosive fragmentation, armor-piercing, etc. At the later stages of operation, 100-mm guided missiles of the 9K116 "Kastet" complex were introduced. In addition, the gun could use ammunition for the BS-3 field gun and the D-10 tank gun of the same caliber.


KS-19 in the Russian museum

Guns KS-19 were used as part of artillery batteries. Target designation for the unit was carried out by the SON-8 or SON-9 radar station. The calculation of data for firing was carried out by the PUAZO-6 control device. The data was individually transmitted to each gun. There were also an optical and panoramic sight for independent work on ground targets.

In modern conditions


From a technical and operational point of view, the KS-19 anti-aircraft gun mod. 1948 has long been morally obsolete. The newest products of this type were made 65-67 years ago, which also indicates physical obsolescence. In addition, the guns of this type available in the post-Soviet space have been idle for a long time, which also does not contribute to maintaining a good technical condition.

After reactivation and restoration, even old KS-19 products are capable of firing and are suitable for use. However, there are a number of specific problems. Difficulties are possible along the line of supply of ammunition, and the achievable efficiency of fire and the survivability of a design with a partially depleted resource also raise questions. All this will have to be faced by the Ukrainian units, which will receive the guns removed from storage.

How exactly the Ukrainian formations plan to use the shown KS-19 is unclear. Such weapons can enter the field artillery and be used as cannons or howitzers. In conditions of a shortage of tools, such a decision makes sense. However, only 11 guns were shown, which are not enough even to partially replenish the losses incurred.

Ukrainian formations may try to use the KS-19 in the original anti-aircraft role. Unmanned aerial vehicles and missile weapons have shown their capabilities and regularly cause significant damage to the Kyiv regime. Perhaps, with the help of reactivated guns, they will try to fight them. The benefits of such air defense are in question.


KS-19 of the avalanche service in the Caucasus

The effectiveness of anti-aircraft artillery critically depends on the means of target designation and fire control. If the Ukrainian side manages to add any radar and POISO to the KS-19 guns, it can count on acceptable fire efficiency. However, even in this case, all the characteristic problems of air defense artillery will remain. A small number of guns will also limit the hypothetical result.

With all this, KS-19 retains all the characteristic problems of towed systems. So, the wheeled chassis allows you to transport them only on a good road, and the process of deployment and transfer to the stowed position takes several minutes. The enemy gets the opportunity to determine the location of the gun / battery and strike back before it leaves the position.

Results of demilitarization


Thus, the Russian operation to demilitarize Ukraine continues successfully and leads to interesting results. Left without most of the modern artillery, the Ukrainian formations are forced to remove obsolete samples from storage. They have limited performance and other disadvantages, but now there is no choice.

It is likely that the recently shown KS-19 guns will reach the combat zone in the near future and even have time to fire a few shots. But their new service will be short-lived and will end with understandable results. What Ukrainian formations will do after the loss of old anti-aircraft guns from storage is a big question.
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  1. +32
    28 March 2023 04: 48
    I’m sure that when it arrives from such a “junk”, it won’t seem a little. The author is in his repertoire, our junk is still hoo! Well, vna Kraine is nonsense.
    1. +1
      28 March 2023 05: 42
      But their new service won't be long
      Let's hope !
    2. +4
      28 March 2023 06: 01
      Quote: ASAD
      The author is in his repertoire, our junk is still hoo! Well, vna Kraine is nonsense.

      The old horse will not spoil the furrow, but it will not plow deeply either. And yes, the article is cool, against the backdrop of the S-60. But in some ways the author is right, the KS-19 is towed, and the S-60 is seen strictly on self-propelled chassis, so our junk is better - slightly.
      1. +1
        28 March 2023 22: 22
        Yes, that’s not the point. Medium and small calibers were abandoned because of the difficulty of observing gaps at long distances. And now there are drones that allow you to track gaps.
    3. 0
      28 March 2023 06: 42
      Quote: ASAD
      I’m sure that when it arrives from such a “junk”, it won’t seem a little. The author is in his repertoire, our junk is still hoo! Well, vna Kraine is nonsense.

      The core can also fly. The author says that there are few of them and in this war they are easy to destroy, due to their low mobility.
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  2. -3
    28 March 2023 05: 36
    It looks like dill has started to rip the museums of European assistants ...
    1. +6
      28 March 2023 05: 57
      They write that until 2016, the Bulgarians had "a little".
      Algiers had 150 pieces.
      1. -2
        28 March 2023 06: 45
        Algiers had 150 pieces.
        Algeria will not give a bag of desert sand to dill. And in Bulgaria, I saw such guns in the museum. Maybe from there?
    2. 0
      28 March 2023 17: 33
      It looks like dill has begun to rip the museums of European assistants


      Well, someone has long torn apart their museums by pulling out the BTR-50, T-62/54
  3. +6
    28 March 2023 06: 10
    albeit an old, but serious weapon.
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    1. +7
      28 March 2023 10: 57
      Quote: Tucan
      It seems that the author is delusional and does not understand what he is undertaking to write about. fool

      Spawn this did not happen, and again the same thing. ©
      Just think, what's the difference - MT-12 or KS-19 (I know about the KUV for the D-10T, but it's not "Duster knuckles", but "Bastion"). smile
      1. +3
        28 March 2023 15: 57
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Just think, what's the difference - MT-12 or KS-19 (I know about the KUV for the D-10T, but there is not "Kastet", but "Bastion")

        By the time the 9M117 ATGMs used as part of the Bastion, Sheksna and Kastet ATGMs were adopted, all KS-19 anti-aircraft guns were in storage or used for training purposes. By that time, there was not a single uncastrated air defense missile system on 100-mm guns in the SA. No.
      2. -1
        28 March 2023 23: 01
        Alexey, as I understand it, the author simply blurted out about the KUV, which for this weapon ... which was not and is not in principle.
        This weapon is now definitely useless as an air defense, but what about anti-tank weapons comparable in capabilities to the BS-10 or MT-12? Those. news from the category about the extraction of D-44 from the stocks for the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
  5. +5
    28 March 2023 06: 41
    old 100-mm towed anti-aircraft guns KS-19 will return to artillery units.
    On direct fire on armored vehicles (especially infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers - right through) an effective tool, but how many shots will he have time to make shots with the return fire of tanks and the same BMP-3 - the question is?
    1. +4
      28 March 2023 07: 35
      How much it will have time, in fact, it can simply cover the direction for some time, which now there is nothing to cover. As an ersatz, for a while, to get by is a completely logical decision.
    2. +7
      28 March 2023 12: 54
      The air defense version is, of course, utopian. But at the next line of defense in a pre-prepared and disguised bunker, it may turn out to be no worse than the Rapier.
  6. +10
    28 March 2023 07: 33
    Old, new, it doesn't matter. It is important that even though the old gun can use the shells that are in storage, and taking into account the shell hunger, it will allow the Ukrainians to fight for some more time. And to save NATO ammunition. In my opinion, they are put into operation only for this purpose. In any case, a 100 mm gun is better than nothing.
  7. -3
    28 March 2023 08: 48
    This is still a highly specialized anti-aircraft gun, with a fairly low mobility. How did the Nazis use their anti-aircraft guns during the Second World War for direct fire, it will no longer work, from closed positions? - well, it’s very doubtful, 85mm or ZIS-3 is better.
    1. +6
      28 March 2023 10: 47
      Just exactly the opposite. Anti-aircraft guns are characterized by increased mobility and quick readiness for firing. They were installed on four-wheeled carts for accelerated preparation for opening fire.
      1. +1
        28 March 2023 13: 34
        Dear Sergey, of course, I may not know something, but I have not heard about shooting from closed positions with these guns, although I graduated from the Higher School and served in the artillery. Theoretically possible, but unlikely. And to expel such a monster for direct fire (I'm not talking about self-defense) seems inhumane to me. Shoot at drones or missiles with zero efficiency aircraft? These guns as anti-aircraft guns are no longer suitable, even in case of emergency.
        1. +2
          28 March 2023 22: 30
          It is difficult to judge, my specialization involved direct fire and observation of the enemy through the scope. However, understand that the four-wheeled trolley is designed for rapid mogu deployment. So what is your question?
      2. +2
        28 March 2023 17: 39
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        Anti-aircraft guns are characterized by increased mobility and quick readiness for firing.

        Very large mass.
        9,5 tons..
        1. +1
          28 March 2023 22: 40
          I have to admit, you managed to surprise me. It never even crossed my mind that it could weigh so much. The thinking pattern worked, where we protected the headquarters with the help of the ZU-23-2, and with the help of even smaller installations. And yet, four wheels are for rapid deployment, and for nothing else.
          1. +1
            28 March 2023 23: 27
            All machines for anti-aircraft weapons have a large mass (the specifics of a very "fast" ammunition with recoil + elevation angles + rotation in azimuth)
            + for this particular
            automatic fuse installer; recoil devices; guidance mechanisms; balancing mechanism; sighting devices; machine tool, shield cover, platform KZU-16 and a set of hydraulic servo drives GSP-100M
            Remember the 8,8 cm FlaK 41 (8,8 cm-Flugabwehrkanone 41, literally 8,8 cm anti-aircraft gun model 41)
            request
            8000 kg, as from a bush

            (this is flak 36 yet)
            If only it came out so quickly:

            The KZU-16MU wagon was tested with 520 shots (216 reinforced charges) and a 1500 km wagon. 172 shots with an enhanced charge were fired from a concrete platform at an angle of 70 with the direction of fire along the main beam between the supports and along the folding stop.

            The carriage as a whole did not stand the test.
            During the operation of the KZU-16 (52-U-415) platform, a number of shortcomings were identified, the elimination of which by upgrading the platform turned out to be impossible. Therefore, in 1953, plant No. 13 was instructed to develop a new wagon to replace the KZU-16. In the new wagon, it was supposed to replace the manual transfer drive from the traveling position and back (time not more than 5 minutes), eliminate the overload of the wheels (especially the rear ones), increase the speed on the highway to 40 km / h, increase the stability of the gun (the maximum tipping angle of the cart with the gun in statics 38), etc.

            I think not only speed. But also to ensure the "straightness" of the trunk, after moving along those roads of the USSR
  8. +6
    28 March 2023 09: 14
    Wow !!! belay
    Auto has already begun to sum up the results of demilitarization !!! fool
    However, strongly... request
  9. +9
    28 March 2023 09: 55
    Oh Ryabov, he said for a long time, you can’t write to him. If only he was embarrassed against the background of articles about the BMP 1, MT LB with installations welded on the stern and the commissioning of the T 62, and there was a lot more about that. Or, according to his logic, our junk, the most junk in the world and generally super duper, but they suck? That's how a man is not ashamed.
  10. +1
    28 March 2023 09: 55
    The media write that they have already reached the 85-mm divisions.
    1. +3
      28 March 2023 15: 59
      These guns have been fighting for a long time, including in the Russian army. They were not removed from service, they were in storage, like the 100-mm BS-3, which are available in the "people's militia" of the DPR and LPR.
  11. BAI
    +2
    28 March 2023 11: 40
    Yes, going on the attack against the Maxim machine gun is below average pleasure. And here, though old, but the gun. Yes, even the Soviet development. Moreover - Stalin's (you can't get along here), the entire experience of the war is taken into account.
  12. -2
    28 March 2023 11: 56
    What Ukrainian formations will do after the loss of old anti-aircraft guns from storage is a big question.

    Old anti-aircraft guns are not only in the USSR and the CIS .... There are just as many of them in the West. Whatever 8.8mm they dig up.
  13. +6
    28 March 2023 14: 15
    The same author praised slightly less ancient anti-aircraft guns C 60. The only difference is that they were used by our troops.
  14. +1
    28 March 2023 16: 59
    100 mm anti-aircraft guns KS 19 are still used as installations for hail control in Armenia, Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine, Tajikistan and some regions of the North Caucasus in Russia. In Tajikistan and Karabakh, they were actively used during the civil wars of 1992-1998
  15. +4
    28 March 2023 20: 28
    In the presence of a sane control center, the very thing is against drones (IMHO, of course). Both inexpensive and effective (the radius of destruction of the projectile is decent).
  16. +2
    28 March 2023 22: 15
    Quote: bk0010
    In the presence of a sane control center, the very thing is against drones (IMHO, of course). Both inexpensive and effective (the radius of destruction of the projectile is decent).

    It is generally no problem to use against Shahed-Geran, these guns fired at planes at much higher speeds
  17. 0
    17 September 2023 17: 27
    How exactly the Ukrainian formations plan to use the shown KS-19 is unclear
    put in the back of a truck, from the series: jumped up to the gear - shot - got a response - disposed of
  18. 0
    21 September 2023 12: 32
    my Grandfather, having gone through the entire war, commanded a battery of such guns near Bila Tserkva (Kiev region) in the mid-50s
    Reviews about this technique are extremely positive.
    This is an excellent object air defense.
    When replacing the old Gun Aiming Stations with something more modern, the battery of these things will spit out one and a half 100mm projectiles per second!!!
    The system is fully automated and was a masterpiece in its weapons segment.
    These guns were removed from service due to the tyranny of Khrushchev and...
    Because of the hysteria of our management after the U2 flights.
    These guns did not reach 20 km. height.
    But in the current environment, when missiles and drones fly low and slow, these weapons may again be fit for purpose.
    I think everyone understands that the shell for this gun is incomparably cheaper than any air defense missile and carries damaging elements like a salvo from an MZA battery.
    The range of 15-20 km is also impressive.
    This is not about use near the LBS.
    So, epithets about “junk” may turn out to be mischievous when these tools start talking