A powerful explosion thundered in the city of Kireevsk, Tula region

In the city of Kireevsk, Tula region, an explosion sounded, according to preliminary data, two people were injured, and there were damages in neighboring houses. The cause of the explosion has not yet been established, two versions are being put forward - a Ukrainian drone and a WWII projectile.

According to eyewitnesses, the explosion was strong enough, three private households were damaged, as well as one multi-storey building. Two people were injured from flying glasses, they were provided with medical assistance. According to updated data, the explosion occurred on the backyard of one of the private houses on Dorozhnikov Kireevska Street.

The explosion sounded at 15:19, two victims - born in 2002 and 2006, they have shrapnel wounds, an ambulance is on the spot. There is a funnel. This explosion was within the city - on Dorozhnikov Street, 29

- reported in the emergency services.

Law enforcement officers, sappers and emergency services are working at the scene of the explosion. The preliminary version is the explosion of a shell left over from the time of the Great Patriotic War, since Kireevsk in those years became the scene of fierce battles between the Red Army fighters and the fascist invaders. Ammunition from those times is still found in the city.

This version is supported by a large funnel and the absence of any obvious parts from drone, although the version with the Ukrainian UAV is also not discounted. Some TG channels have already stated that it could be a Soviet-made Strizh Tu-141 drone, a number of such UAVs are in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Kiev is using them quite actively. For example, on February 6, the Ukrainian "Strizh" crashed in the Kaluga region.

Comments

[kromer]

If this is a projectile, then what caused it to detonate? After all, they don’t write about the fact that before the explosion some kind of work was carried out at this place either.
My opinion is that the drone, but let's wait for confirmation.

[Maz]

Strizh 141 stuffed with explosives, apparently did not fly, three were wounded. Previously, in Kireevsk, Tula region, a Tu-141 "Swift" exploded, stuffed with explosives - the source of the Shot funnel from the explosion is not frail

[kromer]

Source Shot runs ahead of the locomotive. So far, these are only the assumptions of the employees of the Ministry of Emergency Situations on the Internet.

A representative of the region's emergency services told RIA Novosti that, according to preliminary data, the cause of the incident was the fall of a drone with ammunition.

[4ekist]

Ukronazis made another attack on civilians.
I hope the answer will not be long in coming.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Maz

Strizh 141 stuffed with explosives, apparently did not fly, three were wounded. Previously, in Kireevsk, Tula region, a Tu-141 "Swift" exploded, stuffed with explosives - the source of the Shot funnel from the explosion is not frail

There would be a lot of debris left from the "Strizh", it's a whole plane, there's one engine that's worth it. And here they are more inclined to the projectile

This version is supported by a large funnel and the absence of any obvious parts from the drone.

[Maz]

Quote from kromer

If this is a projectile, then what caused it to detonate? After all, they don’t write about the fact that before the explosion some kind of work was carried out at this place either.
My opinion is that the drone, but let's wait for confirmation.

Here is an interesting comment about the Soviet UAV swift and flight ....
Today's Swift, which exploded in the Tula region, is most likely a unit from the batch that I wrote about not so long ago. The Germans are modernizing Swifts and Flights, storing them at a base in Ramstein, recently there were up to 50 of them. With such a single launch, they probably wanted to test our air defense system and identify gaps before the main, mass launch.

Once again I would like to repeat that the enemy will not give us mercy, and only the final defeat of him, without any half measures, can guarantee Russia a peaceful life, prosperity and a worthy place on the pedestal of the main world powers. Without an internal awareness of the importance of this process by the majority of the population and the vast majority of the elite, we will be very far from victory .....

[Victorovich]

As if it is already clear in our country, even housewives !!!
But why are communications in Ukraine still functioning - that's the same question that, for example, my wife has been asking me for six months!!!!
Understand - already simple housewives do not understand the ways of conducting this SVO (which almost everyone unofficially calls WAR), but why is our leadership almond-shaped?!? We have current red lines, a threat to decision-making centers, and ... and the heroism of ordinary guys. But, in what places, some generals already, during the NWO, managed to jump a couple of ranks ??? was a general-mayor - became a colonel-general! Rewarding generals - for what ??? Where are the results of SVO?? For a year - trampling in place. But the rewards for the generals are already numerous. And today they were awarded - they gave the Hero of Russia to the general .. and it was said - he went to the front line several times.
eh ... and the talking head - became a lieutenant general ... so probably by the end of the year he will become a colonel general, but why, he reports cheerfully.

[Sergey Valov]

It did not detonate, but exploded. Explosives are not eternal, irreversible chemical processes take place in them. It’s not just that old ammunition is disposed of.

[Simple]

Quote: Sergey Valov

Explosives are not eternal, irreversible chemical processes take place in them.

Following your logic, unexploded shells in WWII should explode massively this year

[Victorovich]

explosion is the process of detonation of explosives ...

[AlexTires]

The mole blindly gnawed the blower! Not?

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Did you decide to smelt the knife, saw it, or stupidly threw it into the fire?
There are all sorts of tricks.

However, there. where they lie in the ground - it is possible to blow up the pole by hammering.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote from kromer

My opinion is that the drone, but let's wait for confirmation.

A small BP could not fly to the Tula region and deliver a charge of such power. And big, i.e. "Strizh", could not help but leave its wreckage. In any case, some fragments can be found and it can be determined from them what it was.

[evgen1221]

From the UAV of the Strizh class, something significant always remains upon arrival. To drag a 150mm projectile, this is what kind of UAV you need, and again fly away unnoticed. The version with a shell from the war looks more realistic so far.

[Diger]

Quote: evgen1221

The version with a shell from the war looks more realistic so far.

Doesn't look like a projectile

Quote: evgen1221

Drag a 150mm projectile, this is what kind of UAV you need

The TU-141 has a payload mass = 1200 kg, it will bring 10 calmly 155 mm.
Strizh is heavier (normal takeoff weight) Mig-15 by almost 1,5 tons and almost like Mig-17

[Simple]

Judging by the video, the explosion itself occurred at a depth of more than two meters. And by the nature of the funnel relative to the epicenter of the explosion - something kinetic flew in.

[Diger]

Quote: Simple

flew something kinetic.

from 5000 m this "sharp-nosed and will enter the ground for 2 meters. Everything has thawed there. Wet loose soil
V=g*t
t=sqrt(2*H/g)
V=g*sqrt(2*H/g)=9,82*sqrt(2*5000/9,82)= под 300м/с
And if the linear one was also under 1000 km / h, then consider superzoom (400 m / s)

[Li17]

Projectile? With such a funnel? And where are we heading, if only we could learn ... well, they would say about an air bomb from the time of the Second World War. As usual, slammed!
I add, the news feed is talking about a drone!

[Sergey Valov]

The news feed is made up of people who do not care about the truth, they care about the sensation. The second is that fragments remain from any projectile / mine / rocket. Let's wait. Thirdly, such an apparatus as Strizh or Reis could not teleport unnoticed into the courtyard in the Tula region, it would certainly have been seen by local residents, at least when it fell. And fourth - there is no need for panic and tantrums, no need to work for the enemy.

[Li17]

Quote: Sergey Valov

The news feed is made up of people who do not care about the truth, they care about the sensation. The second is that fragments remain from any projectile / mine / rocket. Let's wait. Thirdly, such an apparatus as Strizh or Reis could not teleport unnoticed into the courtyard in the Tula region, it would certainly have been seen by local residents, at least when it fell. And fourth - there is no need for panic and tantrums, no need to work for the enemy.

I answer. Firstly, the news feed is compiled on the basis of the fact, unless our lovers of victory have managed to block. Secondly, based on the first (they said that the projectile ...) and your fourth point (no need to panic), everything will be at the level of an explosion of a household gas cylinder. Thirdly, to argue that they would have seen him for sure ... to put it mildly, this does not correspond to our life realities. Fourthly, just such an "explosion of a shell from the times of the Second World War" causes panic in the inability of our government to work against the enemy!

[Sergey3]

Projectile? With such a funnel? And where are we heading, if only we could learn ... well, they would say about an air bomb from the time of the Second World War. As usual, slammed!
I add, the news feed is talking about a drone!

Actually, if you believe the textbooks, a 152 mm shell leaves a funnel with a human height. Those. such a funnel will leave 15 - 20 kg of explosives. Such a mass may well be dragged by a not very large drone.

[Sergey Valov]

“Such a mass may well be dragged by a not very large drone” - it is not enough to drag the mass, to form a funnel, you need to dig into the ground to the required depth. And for this you need a hard shell of the required shape around the explosive, a not weak fall speed, a fuse set to detonate with a certain delay ....

[Asad]

Wishing the victims a speedy recovery, but I think we need to wait for the conclusions of the experts. Hope for correct information.

[igorbrsv]

The victims were anointed with greenery. One cut himself, the other was taken to the hospital at her request.

[Russian jacket]

I am not surprised. I watched an interview with Putin. And his answer to the question why NATO equipment reaches the front line. I did not expect such a shameful response from the President. And now Tula. There is one question left. How soon will he arrive in Moscow and what color will the next type of line be drawn? Sadly…

[Third district]

Quote: Russian quilted jacket

I am not surprised. I watched an interview with Putin. And his answer to the question why NATO equipment reaches the front line. I did not expect such a shameful response from the president.

I wonder what he said about this. I just didn't see it on TV.

[igorbrsv]

Nobody has seen. It's just a sketch...

[lis-ik]

Quote: igorbrsv

Nobody has seen. It's just a sketch...

Okay sketch. I got curious and found it online. Putin's answer is simple. "Because they deliver at night." According to this principle, it remains to add that "When I eat, I am deaf and dumb."

[Arsen1]

at night and using camouflage. Strelkov said well about this:

Vladimir Vladimirovich has simply never served in the army and therefore is not aware that people are fighting not from 6 am to 18 pm (with a break for lunch), but around the clock. As for the terrible treachery of partners transporting their equipment, disguising it as civilian transport, this is all the more reason for pride in our own military, who nobly carry all military equipment, without even trying to disguise it. Perhaps - due to the complete absence of camouflage covers and nets, but this does not detract from the feat ...

[Third district]

Quote: lis-ik

Putin's answer is simple. "Because they deliver at night." According to this principle, it remains to add that "When I eat, I am deaf and dumb."

Yes, yes, we are again being deceived by partners and led by the nose ...

[cmax]

Quote: igorbrsv

Nobody has seen. It's just a sketch...

Just because you haven't seen this interview doesn't mean others haven't.

[Russian jacket]

Oh well. Google to the rescue. For those who don't know how to search. The following was said. They are driven at night, masked. True, he didn’t specify, but what about the war only during the day?

[azkolt]

Quote: Russian quilted jacket

I am not surprised. I watched an interview with Putin. And his answer to the question why NATO equipment reaches the front line. I did not expect such a shameful response from the President. And now Tula. There is one question left. How soon will he arrive in Moscow and what color will the next type of line be drawn? Sadly…

What is sad here. The President has made it clear. that we will crush them. We won’t win, let alone defeat, but we WILL DOWN! So, be patient, we will press them for a long and tedious time.))))

[MBRSS]

How soon will he arrive in Moscow and what color will the next type of line be drawn?

I already said so today - burgundy color.

[gsev]

Quote: Russian quilted jacket

And his answer to the question why NATO equipment reaches the front line.

If the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine had not reached the front, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine would have been completely defeated a week after this. The United States, with complete air supremacy, was unable to simultaneously interrupt the supply of the Chinese People's Volunteers on all bridges across the Yalu River. Yes, and the KPA managed to attack the US troops and South Korea at the beginning of the war, despite the omnipotence of the US Air Force. Even the Afghan guerrillas very successfully throughout the war against the United States supplied weapons and ammunition to the patriotic detachments of the nightmare invaders from Western countries in Kabul.

[Russian jacket]

Basically, it is. But... When the Commander-in-Chief carries such a blizzard, you will inevitably wonder how many decades will pass.

[spirit]

They write it was a swift, here is a part of the skin with a video from there.

[igorbrsv]

This is not a video. This is a screenshot of a phone...
The funnel is similar. But where did he fly? If it's a swift

[kromer]

Quote: spirit

They write it was a swift, here is a part of the skin with a video from there.

Have you ever seen how operational and investigative bodies work? If they find something suspicious, they stick a flag next to it, and more often they put a ruler next to it.
And then they saw it, grabbed it in their hands and let's quickly take a picture to put it on the Internet.
So this photo is clearly not from there.

[Arsen1]

Well, at least you went to the Internet before writing this. a bunch of videos from the explosion site. That there people on the spot could not

they saw it, they grabbed it in their hands and let's quickly take a picture so that we can put it on the Internet.

before the arrival of the investigating authorities?

[bobba94]

One of my friends, a classmate, after graduating from university was sent to the city prosecutor's office. I remember how he often complained to me, saying that you would arrive at the scene of the incident, and there, like a herd of cows, everything was covered up, trampled ....

[agoran]

A very strange photo. Why such a large number of rivets were installed on such a small fragment.

[Diger]

Quote: agoran

A very strange photo. Why such a large number of rivets were installed on such a small fragment.

there are a lot of rivets on any aircraft.
here is an analogue
https://vk.com/video-31371206_456266453

[agoran]

And, what, there riveted seams form the construction.
Here, on an area with a palm of 27, at least rivets, learn sopromat.

[vorobejti]

If it really was Swift, then it's good that he did not reach his intended goal.

[Khibiny Plastun]

And where is our vaunted air defense? HOW did such an essentially small jet plane safely fly more than 400 km over Russia? In general, does Putin understand that he can fly not only to ordinary people, but also to his bunker? After Engels no conclusions were drawn. Ancient swifts continue to fly, and the tops continue to chat.

[igorbrsv]

If this is a swift, then why did he destroy the plot?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

An unplanned encounter with the earth's surface occurred, a failure in the navigation and positioning system, for a mysterious reason.

[vorobejti]

Swift flies according to a given program to WWI, the partially object-based principle of building an air defense system apparently does not allow timely detection and shooting down of this target, which is complex in its characteristics.

[Arisaka]

How much more difficult is this target than a cruise missile, which also creeps along the ground?
Or was only B52 and ICBMs designed to counteract air defense?

[igorbrsv]

Exactly. Air defense covers objects from missiles and UAVs, as well as from ICBMs and letaks. The entire territory is not closed from air defense UAVs. But they write about the work of electronic warfare in these areas, which is why she blurted out at a summer cottage

[Diger]

Quote from: vorobejti

Swift flies according to a given program for WWI,

these "styriges" have not been flying like that for a long time

[Zhopir Tumanov]

And where is our vaunted air defense? HOW did such an essentially small jet plane safely fly more than 400 km over Russia?

Are there examples when someone's air defense repelled attacks by such drones? It seems not, for that there is a case when the Ukrainian "Strizh" flew through all of Romania and Hungary right up to Zagreb and the powerful NATO air defense and intelligence could not really do anything with the "small jet aircraft"

[Khibiny Plastun]

Isn't it funny for you to compare the air defense of Romania and Russia? Do they have it at all? Not to mention that we are actually a belligerent country and, accordingly, there should be airspace control. But in fact, our air defense is a colander.

[Horon]

Drushlag is the brain of the one who asks such stupid "questions".

Quote: Khibiny Plastun

Isn't it funny for you to compare the air defense of Romania and Russia? Do they have it at all? Not to mention that we are actually a belligerent country and, accordingly, there should be airspace control. But in fact, our air defense is a colander.

I already wrote an explanation for the same stupid question:
when one of my acquaintances asked the same question, I had to descend to his very modest analytical level and "on the fingers" explain how many air defense systems would be needed to completely cover our state. So, according to estimates, we will have to hire all the Chinese for their maintenance and work. laughing
The effective distance for the destruction of a small drone is 1,5-3 km, a large type of "swift" is 5-8 km. Taking into account the redundancy, duplication and length of our borders ... and if we put all military installations, settlements and infrastructure along the borders ... wassat
Therefore, the effectiveness of air defense in real conditions will still be less than 100% for any state. In the future, it is possible and will be able to create cheap automated air defense systems, but there the types of attack weapons will be different. request

[rafat]

And here it must be said at all when they started their own they didn’t think that something could fly in, and that’s the point.

[Khibiny Plastun]

Yes? And you are condescending, are you ours, are you aware of the passport data S-300-350-400? And how does this fit with your 3-5 km? And you know that the Kurchatov nuclear power plant is a hundred kilometers from Bandera? And to the Obninsk nuclear power plant about 300, draw conclusions, you are our condescending.

[Horon]

Yes? And you are condescending, are you ours, are you aware of the passport data S-300-350-400?

And what? I am aware of such a thing as a radio horizon and the fact that a radar capable of recognizing an object flying at an altitude of 10 km by 200-300 km is not able to notice it a kilometer away if it is hidden by folded terrain. Yes, and hitting a quadrocopter from an S-400 is the height of idiocy.

And you know that the Kurchatov nuclear power plant is a hundred kilometers from Bandera? And to the Obninsk nuclear power plant about 300, draw conclusions

And flew over them? Or do you want to cover every garden and yard with air defense? Then the Chinese to the rescue! I hope they are enough to cover the entire territory of air defense.

[Fedor M]

He compared the air defense of NATO and Russia. But if our air defense is a colander, then what can we say about other countries

[cmax]

Quote: Khibiny Plastun

Isn't it funny for you to compare the air defense of Romania and Russia? Do they have it at all? Not to mention that we are actually a belligerent country and, accordingly, there should be airspace control. But in fact, our air defense is a colander.

Take Israel as an example! It is difficult to imagine that such an object would be missed there. Such bloopers from air defense go down for the time being. Until one such swift flies into a high-rise building with dozens of victims somewhere near Moscow or in Moscow. That's when the search for the perpetrators will begin, as it was allowed. So such cases are only the first signs. So we need to do something and do it faster!

[Horon]

Israel has objective air defense and sometimes also misses ordinary jet cylinders!

[Stepan S]

In general, does Putin understand that he can fly, not only to ordinary people, but also to his bunker?

Well, you obviously write from Zelensky’s office, this is his office, and Putin is in the bunker like that - they only say that in Ukraine.

[Khibiny Plastun]

Yes. For people like you, who don’t throw their caps into the air, everything from the office is green.
Enemy drones over strategic objects fly deep in the rear, and such a red-haired defender is all grass. You feel sorry for Putin.

[Horon]

For people like you, who don’t throw their caps into the air, everything from the office is green.

A cap in the air is better than bloomers in the waste.

[Diger]

Quote: Khibiny Plastun

And where is our vaunted air defense? HOW did such an essentially small jet plane safely fly more than 400 km over Russia?

in fairness:
when Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners conducted training firing in the Crimea in the 90s, the Tu-141 was able to elude four guided missiles fired at it by several different air defense systems. Ultimately, this UAV was destroyed by the S-300 crew, and this was achieved only in the line of sight, at a short distance to the target.

In Russia, the Tu-141 was used to train fighter pilots flying the Su-27 and MiG-29. The old UAV in this case also demonstrated unusual survivability - thanks to its maneuverability, it quickly left the firing sector, and sometimes the pilots completely “lost” it.

[Gnefredov]

And where is our vaunted air defense? HOW did such an essentially small jet plane safely fly more than 400 km over Russia?

Ukraine has attempted to attack an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) "Strizh" in the Tula region. This is how the explosion in the city of Kireevsk was commented on by the Russian Defense Ministry, TASS reports.

The agency clarified that the navigation system of the fallen Ukrainian drone was disabled by the Pole-21 electronic warfare (EW) system. The drone crashed near Kireevsk, losing orientation.

You can probably find the fluff yourself.

[Country]

Lviv must be turned into a second Dresden.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

And I like Dnepropetrovsk (Dnepr) more. It fits better into the logic of demilitarization. And Lvov correlates with denazification.

[Ivan Ivanov_36]

An explosion sounded in Kireevsk near Tula, two people received shrapnel wounds. Previously, a Tu-141 "Swift" exploded, stuffed with explosives.

If this is so, then the authorities are already sickening to the point of nausea. 10 cases and no response. No conclusion. Nothing. Power in suspended animation. No investigations into how this happens and improvements in work and air defense. Some other conclusions. Silent agreement with what is happening.

[Khibiny Plastun]

What is not clear here, friends are sitting in the attic, devoted to their pocket and "body", but there are no professionals. What can I say, even if the Minister of Defense is a disguised general. The result of the fact that the steering wheel is not held by professionals.

[azkolt]

I simply despise him, BUT HE DID NOT SIT AND CONTROL THE SKY, here it’s either simply the inability to counteract them, or simply the degree of degradation of the army is simply cosmic!

[Arisaka]

It is unlikely that anything can be done if there is no A50 in huge numbers that would patrol the border areas, as is happening with the enemy.

[igorbrsv]

Can we first find out what it was? All publications about the explosion refer to law enforcement agencies reporting to TASS that it was a swift. But Tass does not write about it. And in the video, the only piece of a chipped snow shovel or can, in my opinion

[Arisaka]

It's all right?
https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/17372507

[igorbrsv]

. news changes have been made (17:48 Moscow time) - information about the drone is being specified

Will do. But I'll still wait

[Chack wessel]

Yeah ... A shell ... The Germans fired, and he got stuck in the clouds for all these years. And then the clouds parted, he hit the ground and crashed ...
... On the NTV video, there is some kind of shnyaga made of duralumin near the funnel ... Shells made of duralumin? Yes?

[igorbrsv]

And if it is the remains of a 40l aluminum flask?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: igorbrsv

And if it is the remains of a 40l aluminum flask?

Well, yes, these two brewed moonshine and did not calculate the pressure. We are such entertainers here in the Tula region.

[azkolt]

Quote: Chack Wessel

Yeah ... A shell ... The Germans fired, and he got stuck in the clouds for all these years. And then the clouds parted, he hit the ground and crashed ...
... On the NTV video, there is some kind of shnyaga made of duralumin near the funnel ... Shells made of duralumin? Yes?

I lived in this city for several years and it is not a stranger to me. My relatives live there, but I must say, strange things happen there. Not far from this street a house collapsed a few years ago. The old building, even the Germans built after the war, but it would seem that nothing foreshadowed, it was solid enough and suddenly ... collapsed overnight! So the explosion, too, cannot be thrown off the agenda yet.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: azkolt

strange things happen there. Not far from this street a house collapsed a few years ago. The old building, even the Germans built after the war, but it would seem that nothing foreshadowed, it was solid enough and suddenly ... collapsed overnight!

And new ones can collapse. I am from Novomoskovsk. We have the Moscow Region coal basin here. I remember that in 88 a completely new socket collapsed. It's a good thing they didn't get settled. Failed, in short. And another story. A man dug a basement for potatoes in the garage, and dug up to the mine. As he said, he walked three hundred meters until he began to choke.

[iury.vorgul]

Greetings fellow countryman! Himself from Novomoskovsk, now I live in Uzlovaya. And the 9-story socket on Druzhba collapsed not in the 88th, but in the 89th. And I myself personally saw how she fell, driving along the highway in the area of ​​​​18 school.

[Mordvin 3]

Yes. What's cool, I studied at that time as a construction techie, and in that area we helped workers build houses. They took out the trash and all that. As the teachers explained to us, they did a poor job under the foundation. They got into the mine. As for the drone... If the forelocks get into our Novomoskovsky chemical plant, it's even scary to imagine the consequences.

[Mikhail Kononov]

Well, how long will this continue? . Until it arrives along Rublyovka, it doesn’t seem to start to itch. In my opinion, it's time to give someone a hat.

[Stepan S]

Until it arrives along Rublyovka, it looks like it doesn’t start to itch

And how will this "chess" help? If they could intercept now, they would have intercepted it that way. So it will be with Rublyovka.

[Alexander66]

I do not understand the explosion in the city was? Something doesn't look like the pics.

[NSV]

And the authorities are still giving some kind of interviews ..... Already the Tula region !!! Where to go next ??? What to expect further ???

[Alexandr2637]

I didn't understand. Where is air defense? Apparently it's time to disturb the Kremlin ...

[carpenter]

Quote: Alexandr2637

I didn't understand. Where is air defense?

And I did not understand where the wreckage. Either they don't exist, or they lie to us.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

According to data from open resources, over the past few weeks, anomalous operation of GPS navigation has been recorded in the western and southern parts of Russia. Failures are fixed on very large areas. At the same time, in some separate areas there is an actual complete lack of access to satellite data.

There was information on the airpro.

In a way, this is also air defense.

[Million]

This is at least 3 drone explosions in the Tula region.
When it reaches Moscow, then maybe only then will the authorities begin to move their brains at least a little.

[Ivan Ivanov_36]

Even if it reaches Moscow, there will be no reaction. Why all of a sudden? Tula is not Russia?

[Million]

Did you understand what you wrote?

Quote: Ivan Ivanov_36

Even if it reaches Moscow, there will be no reaction. Why all of a sudden? Tula is not Russia?

[Simple]

He speaks Russian poorly, how should he know how to understand him.

[Ivan Ivanov_36]

I speak Russian better than you. If you don't understand something, then that's your problem. You sometimes get out of a binge and take vitamins to improve cognitive abilities.

[Simple]

First to "You", then to "You". You have cognitive dissonance.
As in the outcome of your comment:

Quote: Ivan Ivanov_36

Even if it reaches Moscow, there will be no reaction. Why all of a sudden? Tula is not Russia?

What did they want to say?

[Ivan Ivanov_36]

What is not clear? In total, there were enough blows to wake up already. After the blow to Engels, the already normal government would draw conclusions. What will a strike on Moscow change?

[Million]

If you yourself cannot understand this, then my explanation is unlikely to help. And there is no desire to argue.

[Ivan Ivanov_36]

Well, then don’t open your mouth if you can’t answer anything. Once again I ask, what is not clear in my words? Do you have dyslexia? Can't you put letters into words? Tula is not enough reason for a reaction? Tula is not Russia? What is not clear? Stop hanging around there.

[Simple]

.................
You have a banal hysteria.

[cmax]

Quote: Simple

.................
You have a banal hysteria.

You will be hysterical when this flies into a high-rise building somewhere in the center of Russia. That's what you need to worry about and screw up our air defense in order to prevent this from happening. And in Tula it’s just a matter of chance that it will come to a wasteland!

[Million]

Do not make noise like a woman. You need to express your thoughts more clearly, if, of course, they exist.

[Blaster]

Yes, you have PMS. Go cook cabbage soup, it calms you down.

[PVV66]

It's a shame, disgusting and shameful ... We are waiting for a statement from the commander-in-chief that we have not started yet.

[Reindeer]

Slender grunt deteted. "Already Tula, where to go next?"; "As usual, overslept again!"; "Damn lampasniks, who crawled through the line!"; "Yes, it is necessary to raze Lviv to the ground!"; "Let's express concern again!"; "The Supreme does not catch mice at all!" Missed nothing? I skimmed over the comments quite quickly, I might not have seen something new - but these topics will definitely come up, you don’t even need to read all this manure here :)

[carpenter]

Some TG channels have already stated that it could be a Soviet-made Strizh Tu-141 drone,

There will be so many fragments from Strizh, if they are collected and handed over for metal, then it will pull on a box of vodka.

[opposite28]

The only plus is that in the next few years the garden will not have to be dug up.

[igorbrsv]

And the construction pit is ready. Then it turns out that with the help of saltpeter they decided to stir up the pit

[Ezekiel 25-17]

This is "Swift": accordingly, a retaliation strike is necessary.

[rafat]

Well, yes, there will be revenge, but then, and now we must endure, because we have not started yet, we are waiting.

[DVM]

I remember how many jingoistic patriots squealed how our powerful air defense would shoot down, in which case, American tomahawks in batches without tension. Yeah, it will, apparently in their wet fantasies. Looking at how once again Ukrainian UAVs calmly fly far into the depths of our country, a lot of not very good thoughts appear on the account of what if not the ancient UAVs, but the Tomahawk KR really fly.

[Analgin]

Both TASS and RIA wrote that wfu. We swallow further. What is the next red line? It's not time yet, is it? Ugh damn it infuriates. The regions were accepted into the composition and they are hammered, but after all

[Sergey3]

What are your suggestions? Close tightly 1,5 thousand km of the front line with Ukraine will not work. The Yankees are bringing weapons from all over the world to Ukraine in a continuous stream. Moreover, the weapon only seems obsolete, the whole of Europe conjures over it for repair and modernization. Shells and missiles already this year of production are going into battle, i.e. shipped straight from the factories. Say thank you that a very powerful military-industrial complex has been preserved in Russia, there are millions of shells to produce and thousands of missiles.

[senima56]

Drone. Already reported in the media. And where is our mighty air defense ?! Is it all just around Moscow?

[Mordvin77]

Quote: Ivan Ivanov_36

Even if it reaches Moscow, there will be no reaction. Why all of a sudden? Tula is not Russia?

Moscow and Tula are on the same meridian in fact, but it is cut much more seriously

[AdAstra]

Why are you breaking spears here, in other news feeds they write about UAV wreckage.

[Luminman]

Isn't it time to wipe Kuev off the face of the earth? Fully...

[rafat]

Yes, it would be necessary, but they hold tenaciously for Faberge, do not dodge, do not wriggle out, oh, these aligarhs do not allow to damage either the bridge or the rail, and then it also falls from the sky.

[kakvastam]

Something like this has been expected for a long time, and it's good that the blow hit the site, and not the apartment building nearby.
With proper coverage, this can help individual citizens understand that peaceful life is over. Although before hitting Moscow, I'm afraid, the bulk will continue to believe that this is "not their war." And even then it is not a fact that much will change.

[agoran]

As for WWII ammunition, the real story.
Urban settlement Chkalovsk, Kaliningrad region, Boyko st. Autumn 71 or 72, not the point.
Grandmother and grandfather raked dry tops and branches in the garden, set it on fire and stand warming themselves. The ammunition worked, grandma and grandfather were gone, the boys ran to look, but there the funnel was 3 times smaller.

[Fangaro]

The funnel is big. It's good that only the land and buildings were badly damaged. Even a house at the very least can be rebuilt. The main thing is that people are alive and not crippled.

[agoran]

The funnel depends on the condition of the soil and the time of blasting.
Yes, in the Koenig area, next to the training ground of the Moscow-Minsk division, who knows, an English 200-pound bomb was blown up with the boys. This is like our Fab-250/270. There were two detonators, head and bottom, but the cunning Angles also set the middle fuse, they didn’t find a hatch, which means no. the autumn was dry, and this bonba dried up, dragged deadwood, warmed up for a long time, banged notably. I walked for a week and my ears were ringing. The funnel is very similar.

[Roman Efremov]

It is confirmed that it was Strizh. They say they shot down with the help of electronic warfare. Does the swift fly according to the program, or is it controlled throughout the entire flight path?

[Gory]

In the cart they write that it seems like the electronic warfare "Field 21" was suppressed ..... the radio suppression station "Field-21". - the device is capable of creating a dome impenetrable to enemy electronic equipment. Also, the "Field" effectively crushes satellite navigation subscriber equipment.