Russian troops attacked Kramatorsk and Avdiivka at night

On Sunday night, Russian troops launched a series of attacks on Kramatorsk and Avdiivka, using both cannon and rocket artillery, and rockets. There is no information about the consequences of "arrivals" yet.

Ukrainian sources confirm the nighttime shelling of Kramatorsk, the “governor” of the part of the Donetsk region controlled by Kyiv, Pavel Kirilenko, also stated this. According to him, the target of Russian strikes was the industrial zone of Kramatorsk, which was hit by a missile attack. There is destruction, but no casualties are reported.

Around midnight, the Russians launched a missile attack on Kramatorsk - they hit the industrial zone. According to operational information, there were no casualties

- Kirilenko wrote in his TG channel.

Artillery and Grads worked along Avdiivka at night, breaking the fortifications that had been created. The territory of the Avdiyivka Coke and Chemical Plant, as well as a certain object "at the intersection of four streets" were hit, there is no other information yet. Perhaps something will become clearer from the new report of the Ministry of Defense.

Meanwhile, it is reported that in the Avdiivka direction, artillerymen of the 6th rifle battalion of the 9th brigade of the 1st Donetsk Army Corps destroyed the enemy’s temporary deployment points. Where exactly this happened is not specified.

In turn, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reports that over the past day, the Ukrainian army repelled all Russian attacks, preventing breakthroughs, including in the Avdiivka direction.

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[Maz]

Maxim Shugaley, President of the National Values ​​Defense Fund, sent an appeal to the Chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee with a request to consider the possibility for contract soldiers and mobilized to join the Wagner PMC.
"I constantly receive requests from military personnel and mobilized people to help me transfer to the Wagner PMC, as a more effective organization, and it's unfair that there is no such possibility."

The people themselves choose their heroes. Well done orchestrators. Vivat Prigogine! The glory of PMC Wagner is growing, contrary to the opinion of functionaries, bureaucrats and pseudo-patriots of officials.

[Grits]

Quote: Maz

Maxim Shugaley, President of the National Values ​​Defense Fund, sent an appeal to the Chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee with a request to consider the possibility for contract soldiers and mobilized to join the Wagner PMC.

It would be better if the Wagners were allowed to recruit prisoners again. There, too, the guys are eager to fight. The benefits from them on the front line will be much greater than in the zone.

[Rumata]

Grits
The benefits from them on the front line will be much greater than in the zone.

Who better than Shugalei to understand this. This also applies to him. Why is he still not a Hero of the Russian Federation?

[tralflot1832]

Maxim Shugaley is the person for whom E. Prigozhin brought 2000 Wagnerites to Tripoli to free him. There was a fierce battle, as Prigozhin says, not without losses. There is an internal reward in the PMC "For Tripoli". and the task was completed.

[dmi.pris1]

I haven’t officially heard about this ban. Perhaps there has been a sharp decrease in those who want it? There is a certain coting in the zones. Now they are sitting a lot for drugs. These will not go to defend the Motherland. .Regarding the transition from one military structure to another .. No one will allow it here, especially with such a wording

[DenD]

Now a lot of people are sitting for drugs. These will not go to the defense of the Motherland.
Those who are sitting for trading are sitting, perhaps they will go. There terms are from 10 to 20 years, but those who are for the use, they are unlikely.
But the transitions will not be allowed, against the background of an increase in contract soldiers to 1,5 mil.

[Sergey250455]

Basically, those who are sitting for drugs go.

[sifgame]

you fantasize, but I’ll also try, those who sit for trade usually don’t use it themselves and the terms are not frail there and going to the orchestra is a chance to start life.

[estate]

It would be better if the Wagners were allowed to recruit prisoners again

it is not clear why prisoners cannot die for their homeland ((Maybe they are unworthy ... So the most worthy in the Duma are sitting, but they have not yet been noticed in the ranks of the Wagners ...

[tralflot1832]

Kramatorsk partisan: Arrival at the former building of the tram depot and possibly NKMZ. At the NKMZ plant, located on 320 hectares. During the USSR, it was a supplier of parts for underwater vehicles, Baikonur, nuclear submarines and propeller shafts were sharpened on it for a series of nuclear icebreakers Arktika (Soet). Ukraine did not appreciate the gift.

[dmi.pris1]

They did a lot of things there .. Naval guns and towers, duplex and triplex artillery systems, walking excavators ..

[igorbrsv]

How does Shugaley imagine it? So-so, each soldier will begin to choose a part and place of service. And in general the wording "many" is how much? To change the laws for them. I think this is another publicity stunt. Or a way to drag your own from regular parts. Maybe even colleagues

[estate]

And in general the wording "many" is how much? To change the laws for them.

The question is why not, if the law is not prohibited? And the law can be adopted if it somehow brings victory closer ..

[Rumata]

both cannon and rocket artillery, and rockets were used.

Sadness. Hephaestus was not used. (((
For all the time, the so-called. NWO no so-called. AVBPM has not been used, but there are goals for it.

[Aviator_]

Sadness. Hephaestus was not used. (((

And it will not be applied as long as the Sumerians have air defense. After all, it is for bombing stationary targets with free-falling bombs.

[Maz]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Maz

Maxim Shugaley, President of the National Values ​​Defense Fund, sent an appeal to the Chairman of the State Duma Defense Committee with a request to consider the possibility for contract soldiers and mobilized to join the Wagner PMC.

It would be better if the Wagners were allowed to recruit prisoners again. There, too, the guys are eager to fight. The benefits from them on the front line will be much greater than in the zone.

Recruitment from the zones was closed for Wagner and they are recruiting from there to the morph in the so-called "Storm" detachments, while Prigogine is recruiting from sports clubs. Open info in the media and press services of PMC Wagner

[estate]

Recruitment from the zones was closed for Wagner and they are recruited from there to the morf in the so-called "Storm" detachments

MO itself needs competition, however ..

[Nikolay310]

Meanwhile, Ukrainians are posting videos from Vodiane near Avdiivka. If this is not a fake, then the next losses in stupid foreheads are over ...

[dmi.pris1]

Share the link. It’s still interesting to look with your eyes from the other side. A fake is easy to distinguish, according to the season, weather, even sometimes at the place of what is happening. The main thing is not to take a word. I’m not a gentleman

[estate]

another loss in stupid front-ends ended

something is not very hard to believe, knowing the quick-tempered Ukrainian character ..

[kakvastam]

The transition, as far as I understand, is possible only through transfer to the reserve with subsequent treatment on a general basis. The structures are too different.
I would rather demand an analysis and implementation of Wagner's developments in specialized army units, and you can also translate into them. It is clear that assault units and ordinary motorized rifles are not exactly the same thing.

[dmi.pris1]

The basis of Wagner's tactics lies in the tactics of the GRU special forces. And that says it all.

[kakvastam]

And where are the large-scale operations of that special forces?
Or is everything simpler - his retired officers are the basis of Wagner?

[Maz]

Quote: kakvastam

The transition, as far as I understand, is possible only through transfer to the reserve with subsequent treatment on a general basis. The structures are too different.
I would rather demand an analysis and implementation of Wagner's developments in specialized army units, and you can also translate into them. It is clear that assault units and ordinary motorized rifles are not exactly the same thing.

By the way, the resolution of such a transition is an excellent test for the main criterion, namely the effectiveness of a particular compound. From a good division or army, no one will go anywhere, but if people crowd into PMCs, then this should raise big questions for the command staff of this unit.

True, it is necessary to clarify here, if, nevertheless, such a transition is approved, then the monetary content should not be a decisive factor, I mean that PMCs should not pay more.

[saigon]

Yes, an interesting topic, the dive goes straight into the old centuries, if not into the Middle Ages.
Free companies, if they did not act effectively, then there are no orders and people do not go. If such requests are true, then it's time to create assault companies from generals (and there are many of them).
And in fact it is not good and right.

[private person]

The transition, as far as I understand, is possible only through dismissal to the reserve

And why is it so easy to retire from the NWO zone?

[kakvastam]

Can't you read?
"Only" means "only", nothing more.

[certero]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

The basis of Wagner's tactics lies in the tactics of the GRU special forces. And that says it all.

Special forces are not designed to capture settlements, but to perform special tasks. For example, sabotage in depth to capture an important officer or locate headquarters or rocket launchers.
Wagner uses assault actions that were invented back in the First World War.
They just need motivated and courageous personnel to use them.

[topol717]

Quote: certero

Wagner uses assault actions that were invented back in the First World War.
They just need motivated and courageous personnel to use them.

No need to say bullshit.
Wagner storms very simply. First, points of resistance are discovered, then Arta and aviation cover them, then setting up a smoke screen or other distraction, and only then comes mine clearance and assault by infantry, then consolidation at the turn. And so in small groups all the time, without giving the enemy a break. And it doesn’t matter how many meters you can take, 20 or 50.
And half a year ago, the Armed Forces of Ukraine complained that they didn’t know what to do, if you open fire on the Musicians, then you give up a position and they start bombing you, and if you don’t open it, then why are you needed there.

[saigon]

Well, you just described the actions of the German assault groups in WWI (Western Front) one to one.
We had PMCs from the Germans, just the same battalions and assault regiments.

[estate]

Need motivated and courageous personnel

boys with balls of steel..

[23424636]

when the Ministry of Defense reports on the destruction of warehouses in Kramatorsk, you always want to remember how these "sharp-witted" ones bombed 26 grocery stores on Socialist Street along with 2 entrances to a residential building .. Kramatorsk's industrial zone is 3 km of continuous workshops of 4 machine-building plants. Warehouses are there or not unknown. but to find their movement under the roofs of the old workshop building is unrealistic. There is a military airfield where the main forces and means of the Kramatorsk group are located. But there are caponiers and bunkers and no one takes them.