Brazilian President proposes to create a "peace club" to resolve the Ukrainian conflict

Luis Inácio Lula da Silva, recently elected for the second time as President of Brazil, seems to be intent on participating in attempts to resolve the Ukrainian crisis. To end the conflict, he is going to propose the creation of an international "peace club" with the mandatory participation of China in it. With such an initiative, the Brazilian leader will come forward during his visit to China, Brazilian Foreign Minister Mauro Vieira said in an interview with the British edition of the Financial Times.

The Minister of Foreign Affairs stressed that in Brazil they hear a lot about the military conflict in Ukraine, but almost none of the world leaders speaks about the need to end it as soon as possible through diplomacy. Therefore, the country's president intends to take the initiative in organizing a meeting "that would lead to a peace process," Vieira said.

The President (of Brazil) has said so many times that he hears a lot about the conflict, but very few words about peace. He is interested in peace talks

the minister continued.

Brazil's foreign minister told a British publication that Lula da Silva's trip to China demonstrates Brazil's return to a more proactive foreign policy that will gradually restore constructive cooperation "with every country."

Currently, two initiatives to resolve the Ukrainian conflict remain the most discussed: the Chinese plan, which is partially acceptable to Russia, and the so-called Zelensky plan, which is absolutely unrealistic in almost all respects. Obviously, it is no coincidence that the President of Brazil chose a visit to China to call for the creation of a "peace club" to resolve the Ukrainian crisis. Who else, besides China, the Brazilian leader is going to invite to the club, the minister did not specify.

The day before, Lula da Silva's visit to Beijing was postponed from the previously scheduled date to next Sunday due to a mild form of pneumonia diagnosed in the president.

Comments

[Grandfather Fichteau]

Create a better military bloc in South America in opposition to the United States and other Anglo-Saxons .. Remember your great ancestors, whom these destroyed and plundered .. And now you are being robbed to the fullest with your richest resources ..
One Cuba and Venezuela resists! Well Argentina tried and faded

[Doccor18]

Quote: Grandfather Pikhto

Create a better military bloc in South America to counter the US and other Anglo-Saxons...

This requires strong patriotic politicians (like Hugo Chavez) and a powerful national military-industrial complex, but neither one nor the other ...

[Grandfather Fichteau]

Quote: Doccor18

Quote: Grandfather Pikhto

Create a better military bloc in South America to counter the US and other Anglo-Saxons...

This requires strong patriotic politicians (like Hugo Chavez) and a powerful national military-industrial complex, but neither one nor the other ...

Well, you can and should help them .. They are waiting for this and looking with hope at Russia and its already military confrontation with the Anglo-Saxons and their NATO.
Such sanctions, etc. Only Russia can withstand and strike back.
We are already used to it!

[Doccor18]

Quote: Grandfather Pikhto

Well, you can and should help them .. They are waiting for this and looking at Russia with hope ...

Of course, you can help, but depending on what and what will be the use? We can help arm and train the army, but to find them strong politicians - alas and ah. Maybe many look at Russia there with hope, but obviously not the majority (he has other things to do: carnivals, football, everyday life ...), and even the wealthy elite, who have been living in thoroughly capitalist conditions for two hundred years, definitely do not need any global changes .
In addition, there are so many contradictions between states that it can take decades to "peace" ...

[Grandfather Fichteau]

Quote: Doccor18

Of course, you can help, but depending on what and what will be the use? We can help arm and train the army, but to find strong politicians for them - alas and ah.

With charismatic politicians and leaders, there is a problem. However, just like ours, it begins ..
Those born in the USSR will leave and tik-tokers and other bloggers talkers will remain ..
We need statesmen who are silent and specialists, engineers and others in almost all areas. Work is underway, but it’s hard to build an independent state under such pressure from the Anglo-Saxons, etc.
They devils sensed that their hegemony is ending and are ready for anything (for now, as usual, by proxy)

[dump22]

Create a better South American military bloc

Already created. Only not military, but political. It's called PROSUR.
The membership included Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Ecuador, Paraguay, Guyana and Peru.
But alas, this bloc categorically opposes Maduro.
In general, out of all of South America, Maduro has maintained normal relations only with Bolivia.

One Cuba and Venezuela resists!

At the same time, however, these countries did not enter into a military alliance with each other.
They are only part of the general trade union ALBA. It also includes Bolivia, Nicaragua and several small island countries such as Grenada or Saint Lucia.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Grandfather Pikhto

Create a better military bloc in South America in opposition to the United States and other Anglo-Saxons .. Remember your great ancestors, whom these destroyed and plundered .. And now you are being robbed to the fullest with your richest resources ..

Let the Brazilians play football.
They sell coffee.
Carnivals in Rio are closing.
And you don’t need to climb into us with your vulgar "peace initiatives" ...
Without snot - ice ...

[Silver99]

This is no time for negotiations, the sponsors of the conflict in Ukraine have made bets and the ball is spinning around the roulette wheel, so when they hit zero then we will talk about peace, only this will be a Russian plan, without any statehood for Ukraine.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from Silver99

This is no time for negotiations, the sponsors of the conflict in Ukraine have made bets and the ball is spinning around the roulette wheel, so when they hit zero then we will talk about peace, only this will be a Russian plan, without any statehood for Ukraine.

You see, colleague, here the trick is a little different. Peace initiatives come from "anyone", but not from the United States, which in words "for peace and democracy" but in reality advocates war to the last Ukrainian. Coincidentally, the "peacekeepers" are the countries included in the BRICS, because. a little earlier, India also announced that Delly was in favor of seeking a diplomatic settlement. So consider - Russia, China, Brazil, India and ... South Africa has not yet noted, but it has already dissociated itself from the ICC's demand to arrest the GDP, at the upcoming BRICS summit, which will be held in South Africa in June this year.
The world is clearly divided into several power poles, in which mattresses increasingly demonstrate the failure of politics and the loss of international prestige. How can mattresses intercept the agenda of the peacekeepers now? No way. They are toxic to everyone.

[Andrey Moskvin]

Brazilians have only clubs in mind. If only there was some kind of organization or council...

[Grandfather Fichteau]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

Brazilians have only clubs in mind. If only there was some kind of organization or council...

They came to us at the World Cup .. The enthusiasm went off scale, but they only learned to swear)))
And the rest are afraid of the United States ..

[Bayun]

The price of the liberation of Ukraine from fascism is 1-2 million people killed. The estimate is based on the sum of losses in the Second World War, taking into account the increase in the power of weapons and the quality of military field medicine. Model "sofa-cap", but the order of losses. I believe, not far from the calculations of professional strategists.

During the year of hostilities, the estimated losses of Ukraine are 100-200 thousand. The Russian Federation has 4-7 times less. That is, to lose millions of fighters - no one is READY! Including even the cannibalistic West.

So, sooner or later ... negotiations, no matter how hard it is for all patriots. It is clear that neither the United States, nor the EU, nor even India or China are suitable as intermediaries here. And, here, Brazil, Israel, Saudi Arabia - quite.

RF approach: Russian people in "historically" Russian lands. This is true. Ukraine's approach: "politically" Ukrainian territories, too - true. How to exchange so that there is no war? That's what negotiations are for...

[Armen Sologyan]

Everyone is talking about the world. The SVO was started with the aim of denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine, and if you negotiate peace with them, then they will get a respite. It is necessary to wet them, all Nazis, Benderites, or let them go to Canada, where the OUN and others settled .....

[Bayun]

The price for "wetting them is necessary" is 1-2 million victims, which requires 3 million victorious fighters, at least. For such an army there are no weapons, no uniforms, no food. Bravura chants-howlers are one thing, the mathematics of war is another.

[Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev]

If it were as easy as Lula da Silva suggests, it would have been done a long time ago. Everyone offers their services to resolve the conflict in Ukraine, but not everyone understands the most obvious that the conflict in Ukraine was created by the US authorities, Biden and his accomplices. The US needs the natural resources of Russia, so they started a scam against Russia. The Americans themselves do not want to fight, so they found Bandera and set the Ukrainians against the Russians for money. What happened under Poroshenko is nothing compared to the massacre of Ukrainians that is happening now under Zelensky.

[dump22]

Chinese plan partially accepted by Russia

Chinese 12-point plan?
But what about the very first point of their plan?
It is not clearly written there - "The sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of all countries must be effectively preserved"
In my opinion, this does not suit us at all.

[Chimp]

So, logically, both the sovereignty and independence of the Russian Federation must be taken into account. The new regions are spelled out in the constitution.
It's just that the plan does not carry normal specifics, but for all the good against all the bad.

[dump22]

The new regions are spelled out in the constitution.

Right. But this is according to our logic. But China did not recognize their accession. He did not even recognize the annexation of Crimea.
Here is what the Chinese said at the time of the annexation of new regions to Russia:

https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/15888623

China's envoy to the UN says countries' territorial integrity must be respected

"Our position on how the conflict in Ukraine should be viewed remains unchanged and clear - the sovereignty and territorial integrity of countries must be respected"

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Ja, aber der Kriegstreiber-Staat Nr. 1 der Welt, die USA,
dürfen hierbei aber nicht "Mitglied" werden, sonst ist JEDE
Bemühung um einen dauerhaften Frieden - ganz egal wo
auf der Welt - von vorneherein zum Scheitern verurteilt...!!!