The Ukrainian press wrote about a large number of military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine refusing to go to the front line

A significant part of the servicemen of the Ukrainian armed forces is poorly prepared for combat operations and has very low motivation. Many military personnel simply refuse to go to the front line. The Ukrainian press writes about this, citing sources in the military environment.

A week earlier, both Western and Russian media widely covered the scandal around the interview of the commander of the battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the call sign “Kupol” to the American newspaper The Washington Post. According to the "Dome", the recruits of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are poorly trained, and the units suffer heavy losses. For this interview, "Dome" was demoted, after which he wrote a report on his dismissal from the armed forces.

But the problem (for the Armed Forces of Ukraine) is that the words of the battalion commander are confirmed by many soldiers, sergeants and even officers, with whom Ukrainian correspondents speak on condition of anonymity. For example, the facts of a large number of "refuseniks" in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are revealed. This is the name of soldiers and sergeants who categorically refuse to go to the front line, not even taking into account the possible responsibility for failure to comply with the order of the higher command.

Usually the commanders of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hide a large number of "refuseniks" in the units, since this can cast a shadow on them too - they say that they work poorly with personnel, they are not able to motivate them. Because of this, the officer may have problems with further building a military career. Therefore, "refuseniks" are not handed over to the military prosecutor's office, but are used for household work - from digging trenches to cooking. As for the monetary allowance, the “refuseniks” do not receive any allowances, including even those that are due to military personnel on the second and third lines of defense.

The number of motivated fighters is getting lower: "romantics" from Ukrainian nationalist organizations have already been seriously beaten out in battles during the year of the special operation. Arriving reinforcements from the mobilized do not want to fight and do not know how.

In addition, Ukrainian soldiers complain about the practice of exactions in the units located in the rear. Unit commanders take money for everything - from promotion in rank or position to “turning a blind eye” to alcohol abuse.

Comments

[Maz]

And Prigozhin says that the soldiers are not cowards at all, they stand to the death, they do not run. They fight to the last and surrender only in hopeless situations. Don't underestimate the enemy. The experience of a coal miner is to help us. Prigozhin specifically asks the media not to build for the public the image of a cowardly and unprepared ukrosoldat, this is not true. Ideological, well-motivated and trained fighters are fighting in the ukrovermacht in Artemovsk.

[invisible_man]

So the article is about those who refuses go to the front line, and not about those who are already on the front line and are at war with Prigozhin.

[carpenter]

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So in the article we are talking about those who refuse to go to the front line, and not about those who are already on the front line and are at war with Prigozhin.

So why then write about such refuseniks at all, while they are still not digging trenches en masse and are not surrendering by companies, but are fighting.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Maz

Prigozhin says that the soldiers are not cowards, they stand to the death, they don't run

I think it's worth distinguishing between those who fight and those who don't want to fight.
These are different people. Really different.

[private person]

I think it's worth distinguishing between those who fight and those who don't want to fight.

Whether you like it or not, you will have to be on the front line. And judging by the statements of Prigogine, they are not fighting badly and are only taken prisoner when there is no other way out, the b / c is over or they are wounded.

[Grandfather Fichteau]

Quote: Maz

And Prigozhin says that the soldiers are not cowards at all, they stand to the death, they do not run. They fight to the last and surrender only in hopeless situations. Don't underestimate the enemy.

They fiercely agree, but they have nowhere to run, many are tied with blood and families are held hostage .. Whether you like it or not, you will have to stand to the death
The same mobilization system, they just grab them on the streets and then process them to the fullest under fear, etc.
Well, they don’t have motivation to fight for this Ze? Or for the EU?
What they were promised, after all, they did not fulfill anything and simply set them on Russia, etc. I don’t know what they have in their head there .. But this needs to be destroyed in the bud.
Imagine if they come to us with NATO troops .. Hitler will be just a kindergarten for atrocities
Work men or these devils will come to us under NATO bayonets God forbid!

[private person]

They are fighting fiercely agree, but they have nowhere to run, many are tied with blood and families are held hostage

Are you talking about hostage families, do you seriously believe in that? Yes, in the 30 years after the collapse of the USSR, more than one generation of Russians fiercely hating us has grown up there, and for them we are wild "orcs". And as for the forced mobilization and those videos where they wring their hands, these are isolated cases, haven’t you paid attention to the fact that when one is broken, others watch or calmly pass by.

[Archivist Vasya]

That's right, on the Military Chronicle I watched a video where Prigogine on the map sorted out what and how.
And the fact that this is a deliberate misinformation by the SBU / CIPSO for us is not even considered in the jingoistic article for some reason!
Noname author? VO, what the hell are they rubbing here?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Certainly! It’s not in pots to jump and rattle chants about gelyaka and moskalyaku. This is where they can get killed.

[dmi.pris1]

This article is an example of propaganda. A bit of truth, a bit of hypocrisy. During the war, similar things appear on both sides. The motivation of the bitches has not changed. And they stubbornly resist and prepare to attack.

[Murmur 55]

It is interesting from the article about requisitions within the Armed Forces of Ukraine that you have to pay for everything and for INCREASE in rank, and even for the commander to close his eyes to the blue))). And yet all the media in Ukraine are subordinate to the office of the president and work only with the permission of Bankova, and here SUCH supposedly infa, crap. TsIPSO-that go and enlighten.

[rocket757]

A significant part of the servicemen of the Ukrainian armed forces is poorly prepared for combat operations and has very low motivation. Many military personnel simply refuse to go to the front line. The Ukrainian press writes about this, citing sources in the military environment.

. The question is... what does it change for them? And for us, so far, it is not particularly significant.
That's as soon as, so immediately ... but for now everything is tough, bloody, hard.

[jovanni]

A significant part of the servicemen of the Ukrainian armed forces is poorly prepared for combat operations and has very low motivation.

Something on the next portion of the old noodles on the ears looks like. Poorly trained and low-motivated for a month do not allow the best attack aircraft to occupy the district center ...

[Volunteer Marek]

Ek, how they calm us down on the eve of the offensive! "Like" - relax, everything will collapse by itself!

[lukash66]

Where are they to run to? And most importantly, how? It's easy to talk about hands uphill and muzzle to the floor while sitting on the couch. How about on the front? Behind you are ideological Nazis, around you it seems like sidekicks-colleagues, the same fathers are commanders, in front of you is an embittered enemy, to whom his hands uphill can and in FIG. Themselves here yelling not to take prisoner. Rent as much as possible, unfortunately not as much as we would like. Yes, plus everything and the brain washed.

[Xnumx vis]

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Themselves here yelling not to take prisoner.

Yelling outright sadists and idiots.

[Expert]

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Themselves here yelling not to take prisoner.

During the year, I met only five to ten such comments on the VO website. So no need to scratch your tongue. Our people behave much more humanely. You can, for comparison, go to YouTube and see the comments of Ukrainians.

[Oleg Apushkin]

Again stuffing leaked? We've been marking time for a year, but the potheads don't want to fight.

[Denis812]

I am very surprised by such materials. Ukrainians are generally identical to Russians.
Why do we think that they are some kind of cowards, surrendering in packs and so on?
They fight exactly the same as the Russians. Where necessary - stand to death. These are the same soldiers.
Prigogine is absolutely right.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine are fighting for their country. All the exclamations, they say, these are Ukronazis and they are fighting for a certain Bandera - about nothing. Yes, there is a certain percentage of utyrks, but the vast majority are fighting against Russia consciously, not at all for a certain Bandera, but because, from their point of view, the Russian Federation attacked Ukraine.
From their point of view, they are defending their Motherland. And not understanding this is a very strange fact.
We are not at war with a gang of renegades, but with millions of people who are defending their country.
And if we want to defeat them, then we need a mass conscription, we need a war of annihilation, and not a fight with gloves.

[Expert]

Quote: Denis812

And if we want to defeat them...

Rather, it is simply necessary to release in sufficient quantities weapons developed 5-10-20 years ago, providing the mobilized with the most modern means. For example, tanks not lower than T-80BVM, T-90M, T-72BM3, BMPT Terminator. Armored personnel carriers BMO-T, "Boomerang", T-15 "Barberry" and "Kurganets-25" instead of the BMP-1. Everything from KAZ Arena-2 and Drozd. MLRS Tornado-G, Tornadoes with different missiles, which were advertised 20 years ago! Suits "Warrior-3" and all popular types of UAVs, robotic systems "Uranus-9", all the necessary types of aircraft missiles, grenade launchers (and grenades for them) of the AGS family, Krasnopol shells, etc.
And you, if you are so impatient to mobilize, you can do it individually, without an invitation.

[Yaroslav the Wise]

This once again proves only that in Ukraine no one at all considers their President and their Government to be some kind of Nazi! And the mobilized do not want to fight for the sole reason that they were poorly trained and poorly armed. Well, there is another reason: Ukrainians (those that are true Aryans) have always lived exclusively at the expense of others. First, Lenin gave them land, then Stalin, but Khrushchev generally made a royal gift in the form of Crimea. And now the banderlogs are not against Ukraine getting something else, they are not against (even "for" with both hands) that all Russians in Ukraine, and even better in Russia itself, be destroyed. But, preferably, by someone else's hands.
So don't be under the illusion that the Ukrainians are against the war with the Russians and therefore don't want to go to war. Yes, they all sleep and see how the last Russian in Russia dies. They just want someone else to fight for Banderlog, and then give them Russian lands. In general, everything is as usual, nothing new

[Pavel73]

The number of motivated fighters is getting lower: "romantics" from Ukrainian nationalist organizations have already been seriously knocked out in battles during the year of the special operation.

Actually, this is the main goal of the SVO. Grind those who are already incurable.

[Filibuster]

A significant part of the servicemen of the Ukrainian armed forces is poorly prepared for combat operations and has very low motivation.

A very competent article by CIPSO.
It is strange that it is broadcast by "Military Review" in the Russian Federation.