Realities and prospects of "parallel imports"

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Realities and prospects of "parallel imports"

This week, reports began to appear in the press that from April 1, Kazakhstan will launch some kind of electronic foreign trade monitoring system, which is designed to control the movement of sanctioned goods. News has already been widely dispersed in terms of resources, and given that problems in the field of importing goods to Russia from Turkey were actively discussed before, apparently, there is a need to look at the situation from different angles.

Cross-border logistics is a rather peculiar sphere. Logisticians, brokers, and in some industries, traders, are not particularly eager to discuss the issues of their industry in the media. As an example, we can cite the “grain deal” that has already set its teeth on edge, which everyone, except, perhaps, the participants in this market, managed to comment on.



The author himself does not consider such a position, by the way, worthy of imitation (Kazakhstan and the policy of sanctions. What lessons should we learn), because in addition to other “sanctions”, there are still questions and problems of importing such products as electronic components, the same drones, elements of drones, etc. Sooner or later, signals like those from Turkey or Kazakhstan will simply force our market to develop some kind of consolidated strategy, and together with the state.

Let's begin with story with the monitoring of sanctions re-export in Kazakhstan did not begin in March of this year, but at the beginning of the summer of last year, when Astana introduced the requirement to issue export invoices. And there was also such a document as the Order "On approval of the rules for the implementation of a pilot project to record the movement of certain types of goods when they are exported from the territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan to the territory of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus».

It may be recalled that even at last year's SPIEF-2022 K.-J. Tokayev unequivocally stated that he was not officially going to violate the sanctions regime. The resonance from this statement, as well as from the draft order, was serious, and the text was removed from the official sites, but the removal does not mean that the project itself was not underway. It was frankly, in fact, dragged on for a year, and the whole question was already then only when it would be completely beyond the power to pull.

This applies to Turkish transit even to a greater extent, since Turkey, although not directly a member of the European Union, is a member of the European Customs Union with all the ensuing compliance requirements in the design of the movement of goods and databases. The fact that the problems surfaced only by March is a direct consequence of the fact that not all manufacturers in Europe themselves sought to strictly comply with the sanctions regime in order not to lose income, as well as the bureaucratization of the European system.

What one had to read or hear on the air on this topic, especially in terms of Baltic transportation, such as “replace the package of documents”, sounds wonderful, but has little to do with real practice. Well, persuade the carrier with the euro-license to "replace the documents." One-time passage of goods or the organization of certain streams in this way, of course, is possible, but in the end, all conversations rest on several understandable schemes: this is import into the territory of a particular country, re-registration of cargo and its shipment to the Russian Federation, or import to Serbia, customs clearance and customs clearance in the same place and again transfer for subsequent re-export. Further, it is already possible to maneuver with TN VED / HS codes, prices and commissions.

It would be simply surprisingly naive to think that all these manipulations are some kind of sacraments for the customs services of a particular country. Or what, the inspection service does not see the product markings? In principle, everything can be imported, exported and transported in the EU, but everything has not only its own price, but also channels that never assumed that they would be a road with a wide public movement, the western Ukrainian border has always been an exception - " private sector". Similarly, to put it mildly, the long-term use of the so-called. "fictitious transit". Simply because the closing of the deal will sooner or later run into the loyalty of structures in the final jurisdiction. And complaining here about the fact that our neighbors (even in the EAEU) are somehow especially pro-Western is not worth it.

The European Commissions, which today are a bunch of frank Russophobes, are themselves quite monstrous and clumsy. But the tools they can bring to bear are not really limited to simple solutions. The more acute the confrontation on the Ukrainian front approaches, the more the West receives signals similar to the visit of the head of China to Moscow, the closer will be the moment when this bureaucracy will start the practice of directly orchestrating patent law within the framework of WTO agreements.

It is one thing when framework bans are imposed, and another when a particular manufacturer of goods is required to send out a ban on the re-export of goods under their trademarks and their own certificates. Last year, when talking about this topic, colleagues basically dismissed it, they say, it is so deep and complicated that simply no one will deal with it.

But over the past year, we have already seen more than once what seemed to be beyond the bounds, and each time we are convinced that there are no borders for the Russophobic European bureaucracy. The WTO has a system of TRIPS agreements. According to these agreements, in which most countries are involved, as in the WTO system itself, the right holder has the right to set limits on the distribution of his products. And speaking in Russian, the right to allow or prohibit exports and re-exports to specific countries. These are not sanctions as such, this is precisely part of the policy of the copyright holder. In this case, the right holder sends official notifications to customs as part of certain procedures, and the customs authorities cannot, but are obliged to block the movement of goods, however, having notified the carriers in advance.

The procedure of mass bans of this kind has never been applied in practice, and manufacturers themselves in their right mind and firm memory will not agree to this, these are exceptional cases. But to expect that the European bureaucracy will not come to direct threats to manufacturers and copyright holders to commit this act of "self-cutting", the author would not - it will come. So far, many representative offices have left, although often they were the suppliers. Someone banned the import of complete equipment, but not components. But these are all unspoken half-measures of the manufacturer himself, who himself is quietly sabotaging the sanctions. With a rigid formulation of the problem, the so-called. "Gray imports" will rise, no matter how some logisticians beat their chests.

Will any channels remain within the same EAEU in this case? Yes, but you can’t call them massive anymore. Goods will be purchased in Kazakhstan or Turkey for Kyrgyzstan, sold there through an analogue of retail or small-scale wholesale trade, then go to us. Long, expensive and not massive. The pressure on manufacturers is already underway, and it will only increase. Here, as an example, we can cite several manufacturers of Chinese drones, which are private corporations that sell their products around the world and cannot but respond to sanctions threats.

Here you can say a lot of the necessary words about how effective the process of import substitution, which will soon be eight years old, can be considered, as well as about the effectiveness of economic policy in general. But here the problem is not only state goal-setting, and having analyzed this, it will be possible to reach the possibility of relatively quick and adequate solutions.

From a certain point of view, it cannot be said that the state has done little for the purposes of parallel imports over the past year. Rather, it should be said that in this area there is no strict division of tasks according to urgency: fast, medium-range and long-term, strategic. And from here comes administration within the chains: supplier, intermediary, broker, distributor, final recipient, regulatory authority.

So, throughout the year of the SVO, we had and still have one of the main tasks - to saturate the units with unmanned vehicles and communications equipment, as well as components for them. The same copters were required, are required and, apparently, will be required in thousands and thousands, and they are purchased by scattered volunteer organizations, for which they are imported in a dozen different ways: through distributors, through retail deliveries from Central Asia, through Ali-express. Now Decree 506 and Order 1532 (“parallel imports”) are in force, the Federal Customs Service provides assistance in a number of procedures, but the problem that these are dual-use products, and therefore are subject to licensing under the FSTEC, has not gone away.

An ordinary volunteer organization will not receive a general license, and 3/4 of the volunteers do not even have the status of a public organization, and one-time private licenses require time and additional payment. And you can carry without a license what flies up to 1 hour and no more than 47 km / h. And this is just a particular example. Not every broker, in turn, will undertake to put himself in intermediaries, and even give guarantees if there are any questions.

It’s hard to say why we do some things separately, but isn’t it easier to unite the volunteers into an Association, under which you can issue an order to import specific FSTEC licenses under the temporary withdrawal of the FSTEC license, and which will be responsible to the regulatory authorities (FTS and FSB) for the distribution and supply routing? And at least these deliveries will have such a sign as a consignment note and a list of commodity nomenclature, brands and codes for these purposes. All this will be all the more relevant, the more seriously our “dear Western partners” will strengthen control over exports and re-exports, as was written in the first part. In this case, just the entire “volunteer wave” will randomly reconfigure to different channels, and even with varying degrees of problematicness.

Large distribution structures, probably, should not just discuss the issues under which code to re-register goods in Turkey and to whom, or under what sauce to issue an invoice in Kazakhstan, but prepare a site where any dual-use products (and the same copters are perceived this way today around the world) will fall out of sight of the customs structures affiliated with the EU, the USA, and at the maximum, the WTO.

This is not such an easy task, since all "free trade" zones were created with an eye to controlling the movement of goods. When everything is good, then it is the removal of duties and barriers, but when everything is not very good, then all these free zones suddenly become somehow not very free for countries cooperating with the West.

You can look at the map and understand that many countries that seem to be well suited for the purpose of parallel imports can actually be put in a difficult position of choice, like the UAE, Malaysia, Indonesia, Egypt, and some other countries in Africa. And from the point of view of the WTO, the rules do not apply in Iran and Syria. At the same time, even the formal withdrawal of the Russian Federation from this very WTO will not give much, because here one must not play alone.

And here it is precisely here that the state, for its part, should help in agreements and guarantees to distributors on the creation of such a network of distribution centers, where various necessary components will flow, and then not just be re-exported, but “creatively refined”, separately certified and only then move to us home in the form of a "peaceful tractor". Because copters are one thing, and the industry component base is another.

We cannot do without such intermediate semi-fictitious assembly plants in a number of countries, in conditions when there is a rupture of global ties and we are at the forefront of this process, but at the same time, the same global supranational institutions still operate. And as far as quick solutions are concerned, at the very least it is necessary to do everything possible to cooperate with Iran, where re-export from China or the same Turkey will fall out of the monitoring zone of Western cross-border institutions.

Another thing is that the state cannot and should not count on the fact that somewhere and sometime in the future we will replace imports, but for now, the logisticians themselves will cover all the falling deliveries across the entire nomenclature of the TN VED. This will not work, this is a mutual conciliation process. Here, after the raw material producers, the logisticians with the rest of the nomenclature went to the UAE, and the question whether the UAE itself will withstand all this, in fact, remains open. There was an idea to trade everything in Indian rupees, and India is not very ready.

Therefore, the whole process should be divided together with the nomenclature of imports into these three parts: urgent, medium-term and strategic "long". Each has its own norms, a pool of the state, a pool of suppliers, investments and guarantees. For short and medium distances, Russia may well release representatives of medium-sized businesses, if the rules of the game and the level of its own financial participation are determined in advance.

It's not that the author is trying to hope that tomorrow or the day after tomorrow these mechanisms will work. In fact, many operators understand everything that is described above, but they still expect that the most severe scenarios can be avoided, especially since such a reconfiguration of work and existing schemes, relationships, and connections is also a financial risk. Logistics is an area where creating a new route is like getting married again. But here it is necessary for both the state and the operators to determine whether the next blocking of one of the import directions will, in turn, be an even more costly measure. On talk shows, of course, they will say that Turkey is bad or that someone else has succumbed to US hegemony, etc., but only TV speakers will have to pull out and redirect paid supplies, but the state will have to wait for important components.
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  1. +8
    27 March 2023 06: 24
    With a rigid formulation of the problem, the so-called. "gray import" will rise ..

    understand many operators, but still expect that the toughest scenarios can be avoided...

    Hope is weak, and on whom is there hope? On the other hand, they are playing seriously and intend to put pressure on the situation, even throwing their own business into the maelstrom, not to mention the well-being of the layman ...
    1. +3
      27 March 2023 07: 33
      In the entire "parallel import" scheme, the FCS is the weakest link. Of course, the FCS has now been firmly taken up, but this is not enough, this "shop" should have been cleaned long ago.
      1. +9
        27 March 2023 08: 16
        I know that it will seem strange at first glance, but digitalization has greatly benefited the FCS. In general, with the exception of a number of specific issues, I would find fault with the administrative procedures there to the least extent today. Often, our enterprising citizens simply try to carry, not taking into account the design features for a specific nomenclature. In any case, the frontal double bass must be stopped, with or without SVO, it simply beats the competition. But in general, we are talking about the fact that logisticians and importers need not just change beds (routes), but radically complicate the work model by introducing intermediate assembly points for "semi-finished products", choosing jurisdictions and even certifying these semi-finished products there. And the state should not stand aside here, because such a reconfiguration is sometimes a decent financial cost. The operator himself may simply be afraid to go to a new jurisdiction, and even make a semblance of workshops there. These are risks, because while you build new relationships, you will definitely blow something at the first stage. Even just transferring the topic to Iran will not be easy there.
        1. +7
          27 March 2023 14: 54
          It is necessary to revise customs tariffs
          Not the environment to replenish the budget with badly needed equipment
          1. +1
            27 March 2023 23: 44
            Quote: aars
            It is necessary to revise customs tariffs

            You would be in the government of the Russian Federation.
            1. There are tricky measures of "non-tariff" regulation
            DECISION of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 1291 of December 26.12.2013, XNUMX. On the recycling fee for wheeled vehicles (chassis) and trailers for them and on amendments to certain acts of the Government of the Russian Federation
            Attention! The version of the list since 01.01.2020/1457/15.11.2019 has been changed in accordance with the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. XNUMX dated XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
            The new version of the List, effective from 01.01.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX:
            Attention! Changes, see .:
            Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 1866 dated November 18.11.2020, XNUMX
            Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 2132 dated November 24.11.2022, XNUMX
            Approved
            Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of December 26, 2013 No. 1291
            (as amended by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of November 15, 2019 No. 1457)
            List of types and categories of wheeled vehicles (chassis) and trailers for them, in respect of which the recycling fee is paid, as well as the amount of the recycling fee1
            DECISION of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 81 dated 06.02.2016. On the recycling fee for self-propelled vehicles and (or) trailers for them and on amendments to certain acts of the Government of the Russian Federation
            see "New edition" January 2023


            Quote: aars
            Not the situation to replenish the budget at the expense of

            The Federal Customs Service has always had a "stupid" habit since December 15.12 of making absurd CCCs, issuance on collateral, and so on and so forth.
            The year closes with the plan fulfilled, and what the Ministry of Finance will return in the 1,2 quarter of the next, this is the tenth business: the plan has been fulfilled, bonuses, stars have been taught, sticks have been "chopped"
            Oh yes ... there is also an amazing rule: EVERY year to change the KBK, OKATO, R / s, the purpose of the payment, so that for 1 quarter a bunch of half-hearted people get into trouble and ... and, and 1 quarter is also completed according to plan. And money in the budget again ...
            And a masterpiece about the "invisibility" of advance VAT, on payment for the supply of imported goods, and payment of VAT on imports. Doublet: with one shot - 2 birds with one stone.
        2. +5
          27 March 2023 15: 08
          I know that it will seem strange at first glance, but digitalization has greatly benefited the FCS.

          However, paper circulation is being carried out in parallel. For major players it became (and was) much easier, for the rest of the work it became 2 times more. But it is in the crowd of small importers that you can hide anything.
          1. +5
            27 March 2023 15: 28
            We are not large, but for each delivery a "be ready" package. Yes, so far.
            We must remember our version of "smuggling is a poorly designed delivery"))
        3. -1
          27 March 2023 23: 29
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          but digitalization has greatly benefited the FCS.

          from the point of view of ease of registration of DT and lack of corruption?
          Right.
          What -thread Kondur-Declarant, or STM / Alta-software will not let you lie. For money, of course.
          Any smart one who tried "for this" to file a DT for
          https://edata.customs.ru/
          turns pale, hiccups and suffocates.
          And submit KDT, especially if you messed up with the price .....
          Oh yes, there is also the survival of the post of actual control, especially when his boss is already on the verge of relegation
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          Often, our enterprising citizens simply try to carry

          I do not hesitate to ask: Are you a theorist? "kylo" does not seem to be held in the hands?
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          Turkey, although not directly a member of the European Union, is a member of the European Customs Union with

          is not
          non-EU states which paeripiciable in the customs union or are in bilateral customs unions with the EU
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          that all these manipulations are some kind of sacraments for the customs services of a particular country.

          The EEC customs is a secret, they are trying to push everything onto an analogue of the FSTEC, let's say it is BAFA, BAFA - it has been overloaded for years.
          Obtaining an export license - from 4 months.
          And Gebietscode:1008 always remains, and the MN code is either: 478, or 709, and the modet is 762.
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          long-term use of the so-called. "fictitious transit".

          It is chopped (if desired) within a month.
          And again, the same: "syndrome of putting your eggs (and your own) into one basket with nails."
          everything costs money, you have to pay for it. And it's very expensive to pay.
          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          The WTO has a system of agreements TRIPS

          It has nothing to do with your Russian law on the protection of "intellectual property rights".
          The fact that in Russia is corruption, such as you have done in the same Europe / USA is not possible to imagine.
          mmmm. I don’t remember the Dutch company, which, because of the BMW sign on its facade, not only won, but screwed up BMW AG to the fullest. year 1988 or 1989.
          And how did VAG kick off with Italian car purchases in 2005 (not sure) for the difference in VAT, do you know?

          You are writing an article about how Russian enemies create difficulties.
          But the Russian authorities themselves create a greater difficulty for Russian importers / logisticians
          - new order of the Federal Service for Technical and Export Control
          - junk
          -the absolute unresolved issue with IM-53 (FTS on the Government - the government on the Ministry of Industry and Trade - Ministry of Industry and Trade - on the FCS), and the level of "competence" of all of them: amazing. I thought that it couldn’t be lower than the plinth ... Not. Maybe
          -banks. Since 2018, the Central Bank has issued only 1 well license, for the first time. And the "old men" according to the standards, they cannot withdraw profits and ... and we get Raiffeisen Bank (+ $ 2 billion) and an almost complete block for registering new contracts
          --------------------------------------
          I will tell (predict) what will happen:
          - jamming direct exports (and all, as soon as they find a replacement) from the Russian Federation (a complete block for accepting transactions from banks in the Russian Federation, under any pretext, but at least give a BAFA license)
          - export from the EEC to the Russian Federation, only after a BAFA license (this is not for you FSTEC and 2 weeks, there is no standard), 4-6 months
          -electronic and paper confirmation of exports to the countries of the entire CIS (Ukraine, you can not count here), with LNP and fines at the level of an interstate agreement.
          Here again "a basket of eggs and nails", pay, pay and pay.
          - intimidation of all those who hesitate. The corridor is already narrowing to < 180 degrees

          This is already terribly expensive, then, all the rest (thinking with their buttocks), it remains
          2015 On the anniversary of the annexation of Crimea, the European Council called on the UN countries that "supported" / my quotes / the territorial integrity of Ukraine at the General Assembly to impose sanctions against Russia.


          Add 1+2+ hesitant (such a premature green color)... and the import will remain only after...
          Through the Caspian?
          The European Union will continue to strive for the full implementation of its policy of non-recognition, including through restrictive measures. The EU reiterates its call on UN Member States to consider similar non-recognition measures in line with UN Resolution 68/262

          Quote: nikolaevskiy78
          but still expect that the most severe scenarios can be avoided,

          Do not even hope:
          1. The one who has more strength is right. If the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation stood at least along the entire Dnieper, there would not even be 4 packages, there would already be a lot of points in the development of the finish line.
          2. They will do it as soon as they protect themselves (find a replacement) and there will be no social explosion.
          Polish apples and parmesan will not let you lie.
          (approx 1-2% of world production/economy is nothing, error)
          1. 0
            28 March 2023 02: 28
            For more than 15 years I have been somehow solving the questions that you have thrown here, apparently in order to show "deep awareness". I write about the fundamental points that a person from different industries can perceive. And I did not set the task of turning the material into an analogue of the declarants' forum. Why don't you like Alta? What is the problem of paying VAT - to calculate how much you need to have with a margin in the account?
            It seems that you do not come to the customs post. The number does not mean that you do not need to go there at all. And if the load is high, go to another place, not so loaded, do not tie with ropes. And yes ... No need to "mow with the price."
            1. -1
              28 March 2023 08: 54
              For more than 15 years I have been somehow solving the questions that you have thrown here, apparently in order to
              to show "deep awareness".

              -and I am more, more than your "more" and not only in the Russian Federation.
              -No, it was you who "scribbled" the article in order to "show"
              "I decide" recourse
              I write about the fundamentals

              At the forum of declarants, if he stayed, she (the article) would be laughed at
              Did I say you don't like it?
              - No problem with payment. You didn't even understand what I wrote.
              Didn't come to the post. For what?
              There is always someone to trust and who is competent in a particular issue.
              "Load"?
              - I'm not a declarant, it's purely a hobby, one might say.
              This I can bind / untie the declarant.
              You don't have to mess with the price.

              1. Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where
              2. You didn’t put the quotes in vain.
              I am different, you are talking about yours.
              1. +1
                28 March 2023 21: 37
                Haven't you splashed all around yet? I even like this reaction. Honestly, if you didn't exist, you would have to be invented. This is additional evidence for me that the material is written in the right direction. Who needs it, he understood everything.
        4. +1
          28 March 2023 21: 16
          The trouble is that the state does not really try to help import substitution.
          In reality, this is either the abolition of fees in the Pension Fund and CHI for manufacturers of replacement products, the abolition of VAT for them. That is, to reduce costs to equal or less than the original manufacturer.
  2. +3
    27 March 2023 06: 51
    term, medium-term and strategic "long".

    Here, the ability to medium-term already raises strong doubts, what can we say about the game in the "long" ...
    1. +6
      27 March 2023 13: 33
      Operators will cope if the state supports))
      1. 0
        27 March 2023 23: 31
        Quote: nikolaevskiy78
        Operators will cope if the state supports))

        yeah. he will support, then he will catch up and weigh the pendal, and when you fall, he kicks.
        1. Haven't crawled on payroll commissions yet?
        2.and how are the courts? I do not advise you now to fall under some kind of administration, a fine. defeat is guaranteed. There is no point in spending money even on the Fool of the Truth.
        "Are you for the budget or for the huckster"?
        1. +1
          28 March 2023 02: 30
          I "At US" solve these issues without hysterics, but how they are solved "At YOU" - you know better.
          1. +1
            28 March 2023 08: 44
            solve these tantrums

            Where did you see hysteria?
            "I solve" the question.
            Yeah. It doesn't even sound Russian
  3. +10
    27 March 2023 07: 50
    The reality is not very good and the prospects for "parallel imports" are not particularly encouraging.
    1. +17
      27 March 2023 08: 39
      But because it was necessary to develop our own production, and not invest in overseas papers. Now we have what we have.
      1. +13
        27 March 2023 11: 15
        So they also didn’t give orders / subsidies to their own.
        Over there in Krasnoyarsk, the harvester plant was ruined and the territory is already being built up.
        A good plant, and the railway tracks are summed up, and almost the center (and on the river bank, that's the reason, a tidbit for building).
        Now I could repair some BMPs, or something.
        But he is no more.
        And this is only from what caught my eye and zapmnitsya.
      2. +2
        27 March 2023 23: 48
        Quote: not the one
        And because it was necessary to develop our own production,

        fellow
        "The Constitution of the Russian Federation" (adopted by popular vote on 12.12.1993 with amendments approved during the nationwide vote on 01.07.2020)
        Article 3

        1. Bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.

        2. The people exercise their power directly, as well as through public authorities and local authorities.
        ----------------------------------------------
        prompt with (from) whom to ask?
        Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation:
        - May 18, 2000 Minister of Economic Development and Trade of the Russian Federation Gref German Oskarovich /very good with dividends and salaries in Sberbank/
        -September 24, 2007 Minister of Economic Development and Trade of the Russian Federation, since May 12, 2008 - Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Nabiullina Elvira Sakhipzadovna /very good with the ruble exchange rate and all sorts of banks, such as "opening"/
        -May 21, 2012 Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Belousov Andrey Removich /new wave "businessmen need to share"/
        - June 24, 2013 Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Ulyukaev Alexey Valentinovich / sat /
        I'll skip Elina, but there is a young, "gifted"
        -November 30, 2016 Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Maxim Stanislavovich Oreshkin / read at least one of his scientific, journalistic articles - awesome /
        -January 21, 2020 Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Maxim Gennadyevich Reshetnikov (it’s even a pity to reproach this)
        Ministry of Industry and Trade?
        - Khristenko Viktor Borisovich (2008-2012) / very good with golf clubs and through his wife with medicine / vaccines, medicine in the Russian Federation ... Golikova will not let you lie)
        Manturov Denis Valentinovich (since 2012) / very expensive business trips and the family owns a chain of hotels /
    2. +2
      27 March 2023 23: 46
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      and the prospects for "parallel imports" are not particularly encouraging.

      there are no prospects. He (PI) will be strangled. get ready for the DPRK regime. Only they still had the Russian Federation, except for the PRC, and the Russian Federation will have only the PRC.
      it will be very expensive and very bad (for Russia)
  4. +2
    27 March 2023 08: 53
    All power to the Soviets!

    At a time when the West does not hide its intentions to destroy us, parallel imports are a temporary tool for us to have time to expand our production. Delaying this process is unacceptable. It is high time to move away from logic: to sell there at a lower price and buy there at a higher price.
    1. 0
      30 March 2023 07: 19
      There are no examples of creating a successful domestic cycle economy within a single state. Neither China nor the US are fully independent economies, they are highly integrated into the global economy. Unfortunately, all dreams of import substitution are just a propaganda concept, it is impossible. If the current situation continues in the long term, the Russian economy will degrade to the level of the North Korean or Iranian economy.
  5. VLR
    +5
    27 March 2023 09: 04
    I think we should call a spade a spade: "legalized smuggling." Saviors and benefactors of modern Russia built by Putin: Gaidai's Chef, Gesha and Lelik.
    1. +3
      27 March 2023 12: 08
      And this is smuggling. The fact that some forbid their manufacturers to sell us something does not mean that we should not buy it if we need it. These are their troubles, we are in our right.
    2. 0
      28 March 2023 09: 20
      : "legalized smuggling". Saviors and Benefactors

      This is not smuggling.
      Neither by the definition of the word, nor by the meaning of the action
  6. +5
    27 March 2023 11: 48
    "I'm old and tired of speeches" - Kutuzov in the poem "A long time ago." We are already used to the fact that you can't buy anything for a penny. Even for a ruble. Interesting? What about yuan? All of ours has long been weathered. Previously, they sold surplus. Now I’ve hit it. Even contracts for this have been drawn up. But the worst thing is when we buy what we can produce ourselves. I did not see domestic computers in stores. I only heard from the lips of managers.
    1. +2
      27 March 2023 14: 56
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      I did not see in domestic computer stores
      And we can't make consumer-grade computers.
      1. +1
        28 March 2023 08: 59
        And we can't make consumer-grade computers.

        What can you do?
  7. +7
    27 March 2023 13: 18
    There is nothing to invent, it is necessary to produce in Russia, and then only bravura speeches on TV about import substitution, we have been replacing it for 20 years, and things are still there together with the ministers who should do it, but everything has been completely corrected. Putin will not change the personnel policy, so and we’ll chew snot for who knows how long. Recently I listened to Rutskov, he says that the Minister of Defense did not serve and his five deputies, too, are also the same in the Security Council. And then what do we want.
    1. +7
      27 March 2023 13: 29
      Until the necessary components are available, it will not be possible to produce a good product. It is necessary to import the key elements of the systems. My prediction is that sooner or later the European bureaucracy will reach manufacturers and force them to label and mark boxes with geotags, insert them into finished large products, etc. This is all there is now, for example, you, as a manufacturer, can insert an implementation tracking chip into the equipment - for one distributor your own, for another yours, etc. This is done even in Russia - one region has its own marking, another another. It's just that for the manufacturer it is very problematic and he will do it only under fines. The element base needs to be prepared - to analyze what we can do today, tomorrow with a minimum of investments, the day after tomorrow, having delivered N + elements and thinking how to copy them.
      1. +3
        27 March 2023 15: 01
        By element base:
        How now do not know, but several. years ago he worked as a designer - even then, in many positions, the same Texas asked to describe the project
        Like not a military man
        Analog girls, it seems, too, but I don’t remember exactly from them
        That is, it has been looming for a long time, since 2014 for sure
        But for some reason ours didn't itch
        And the collapse of "milandra" came as a surprise and for some a problem
    2. Alf
      +5
      27 March 2023 17: 54
      Quote: Alexander Rasmukhambetov
      Putin will not change the personnel policy, and we will chew snot

      And why would he change this personnel policy? Look at the composition of the government - the faces are the same, only they jump from chair to chair when they jump around ...
    3. +2
      27 March 2023 23: 33
      Quote: Alexander Rasmukhambetov
      should be made in Russia

      on what?
      Production of means of production - this is the main thing that is not in Russia now
  8. +4
    27 March 2023 13: 54
    The article leaves the feeling that everything is going on relaxed as at the beginning of the last century. They didn’t do shit there, they screwed up, sawed it there, but don’t care. The people will stretch and the curve will take out. Do I need to remind you that I did not take it out?
    1. +5
      27 March 2023 15: 30
      An article for operators like the author. Get ready, don't expect the channels that have been doing for years to work. Will not.
  9. +2
    27 March 2023 16: 50
    Realities and prospects of "parallel imports"
    A balanced and reasonable article confirms the ambiguity of the current situation and the prospects for its resolution...
  10. +1
    27 March 2023 21: 46
    From December...
    There is a contract under which everything must be paid by the supplier. The customer simply clarified whether there would be unforeseen consequences.
    I ask the importer whether everything will be fine with the documents. I get the answer that a lot of things have already been delivered. The devil pulled me to ask whether all payments under Russian law were paid and whether it would be in the UPD of the gas turbine engine.
    Yes, all payments will be paid. We work without interruption. No, there will be no GTE, because the copyright holder officially did not allow us anything.
    I don’t know whether or not, but I decided that it was better to refuse the delivery.
    You can bring along. But not to myself - it's still scary.
    1. +2
      28 March 2023 00: 11
      Quote from Fangaro
      There is a contract under which everything must be paid by the supplier.

      force majeure-circumstances release the counterparty from liability for non-compliance with contractual obligations, provided that he immediately notifies the partner of the emergency.
      Quote from Fangaro
      UPD GTD.

      GTE is no longer in Russia > 10 years
      from January 1, 2011, after the adoption of the Customs Code of the Eurasian Economic Union, a new name was introduced - Goods Declaration (DT)

      rights importer
      Quote from Fangaro
      Yes, all payments will be paid. We work without interruption. No, there will be no GTE, because the copyright holder officially did not allow us anything.

      some fool.
      1. The DT number in the invoice for the resale of goods imported into the territory of the Russian Federation is intended to facilitate the identification of the transaction by the Federal Tax Service when the importer draws up a VAT deduction.
      It is desirable to fix the DT number in the invoice, but not necessarily, subject to the condition that other information reflected in the document allows you to establish data about the supplier, buyer and product. The DT number can be found in column A of the customs declaration. Subsequently, it is recorded in column 11 of the invoice.
      2. From 01.07.2021/02.04.2021/534, a new invoice form is valid, incl. corrective, as amended by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of April XNUMX, XNUMX No. XNUMX. The form was updated due to the introduction of a goods traceability system. Use the new form is required by all taxpayers, even if the goods are not included in the traceability system.
      3. If, for some reason, during the resale of property, the DT number was not indicated in the invoice, then this cannot become a basis for refusing to subsequently receive a VAT deduction for the importer, when other information available in the tax documentation allows the Federal Tax Service to establish data on the supplier, buyer, find out the names of goods, their price, VAT rates (Letter of the Ministry of Finance of Russia dated 26.01.2018 N 03-07-08/4259).
      Request a purchase / sale kuniga with the marks of the Federal Tax Service, and you will be Happy.
      Quote from Fangaro
      Parallel to yourself you can bring. But not to myself - it's still scary.

      Oh well. As you try, here you will emboss an article: "walking in the circles of hell."
      Yes, and you will not transfer money today from Russia. In Euro and $ - for sure.
    2. +3
      28 March 2023 11: 47
      Here you need to view the delivery scheme. If you are given a product that you then put on sale further, then in any case you must have a customs declaration number. Electronic customs clearance is seen by everyone, even your bank. But you need originals. They are simply not always the sender and the supplier can receive immediately. If the question was in time, then maybe in vain they refused the deal. You need to look at the diagram. You can write in private.
  11. 0
    28 March 2023 08: 29
    I don't understand why all this panic? We have China! Our most ingenious strategic victory and benefit in this whole situation is that we are now completely dependent on our eastern neighbor, why trade with Europe and with the whole other civilized world, when there is a true friend and comrade nearby - the Chinese "communist"!
  12. 0
    28 March 2023 10: 25
    Quote from Digger
    Quote: Alexander Rasmukhambetov
    should be made in Russia

    on what?
    Production of means of production - this is the main thing that is not in Russia now

    And from this situation there is not only no way out - not even SIGNS of searching for them.
    Rather, there are ways. From the series "lie on your back and put your paws up"
    1. +2
      28 March 2023 11: 18
      From the series "lie on your back and put your paws up"

      "Who is guilty?" - Herzen, then "What to do?"
      If the body is affected by worms (infection), loses weight, then increased nutrition will not help it. All food will go to helminths.
      First they clean, destroy parasites, then restorative therapy.
      Ophiocordyceps unilateralis is 48 million years old and cannot be persuaded by patriotism to be "good"

      Under every jamb that is now in PY: there is a position, full name, signature. Or a group of people.
      From "import substitution" to warriors.
      Moreover, these parasites (the culprits of everything) are very easily calculated not only by their deeds, but also by the standard of living of themselves and those close to them.
      Here, neither the WRC nor the FSB is required.
      Rosreestr and the Federal Tax Service will not let you lie.
  13. +1
    28 March 2023 22: 03
    Quote from Digger
    Quote from Fangaro
    There is a contract under which everything must be paid by the supplier.

    force majeure-circumstances release the counterparty from liability for non-compliance with contractual obligations, provided that he immediately notifies the partner of the emergency.
    Quote from Fangaro
    UPD GTD.

    GTE is no longer in Russia > 10 years
    from January 1, 2011, after the adoption of the Customs Code of the Eurasian Economic Union, a new name was introduced - Goods Declaration (DT)

    rights importer
    Quote from Fangaro
    Yes, all payments will be paid. We work without interruption. No, there will be no GTE, because the copyright holder officially did not allow us anything.

    some fool.
    1. The DT number in the invoice for the resale of goods imported into the territory of the Russian Federation is intended to facilitate the identification of the transaction by the Federal Tax Service when the importer draws up a VAT deduction.
    It is desirable to fix the DT number in the invoice, but not necessarily, subject to the condition that other information reflected in the document allows you to establish data about the supplier, buyer and product. The DT number can be found in column A of the customs declaration. Subsequently, it is recorded in column 11 of the invoice.
    2. From 01.07.2021/02.04.2021/534, a new invoice form is valid, incl. corrective, as amended by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of April XNUMX, XNUMX No. XNUMX. The form was updated due to the introduction of a goods traceability system. Use the new form is required by all taxpayers, even if the goods are not included in the traceability system.
    3. If, for some reason, during the resale of property, the DT number was not indicated in the invoice, then this cannot become a basis for refusing to subsequently receive a VAT deduction for the importer, when other information available in the tax documentation allows the Federal Tax Service to establish data on the supplier, buyer, find out the names of goods, their price, VAT rates (Letter of the Ministry of Finance of Russia dated 26.01.2018 N 03-07-08/4259).
    Request a purchase / sale kuniga with the marks of the Federal Tax Service, and you will be Happy.
    Quote from Fangaro
    Parallel to yourself you can bring. But not to myself - it's still scary.

    Oh well. As you try, here you will emboss an article: "walking in the circles of hell."
    Yes, and you will not transfer money today from Russia. In Euro and $ - for sure.


    Thanks for the comment!
    It's a shame, of course, but it can be useful in the future.
    1. -1
      29 March 2023 00: 22
      And why, what a shame?
      They don't beat for demand.
      But right now I don’t advise you to climb into the jungle of imports (exports to a lesser extent).
      My friend from Russia could not credit us with payment for the goods, and we could not. The bank became Colom, demanded a BAFA license.
      Germany is exactly like this: without an open AE (in Russia it is called EX-1): money will not be credited to the seller's account (if he is not Siemens, what thread).
      1. 0
        April 2 2023 15: 03
        ..special limitation of special financial visibility (financial special maneuvers (floating frequently changing payment details, etc ((special professional incompetence ((
  14. 0
    April 2 2023 14: 59
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