Minus twenty billion: goodwill gesture for Africa

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Minus twenty billion: goodwill gesture for Africa
Source: zakonvremeni.ru


Battle for Africa


African states are now on a special account. Perhaps, until 2022, they did not even suspect what kind of battle would unfold around the Black Continent.



The world is divided into ardent opponents of the Russian special operation and sympathizers. Both camps are trying to win African states over to their side. Events are unfolding rapidly. Sergey Lavrov has already traveled twice across the countries of the continent since the beginning of the NWO. Last July, I made friendly visits to Egypt, Ethiopia, Uganda and the Republic of the Congo. January of this year was marked by visits from Eswatina (former Swaziland) and Eritrea.

Moscow is clearly restoring old Soviet ties by enlisting the support of countries in the UN General Assembly. From the same stories the deployment of an MTO point in Port Sudan - the thoughts of the local leadership, which have been dragging on since 2020, seem to have been resolved in favor of Russia. Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko recently visited Zimbabwe.

Moscow is preparing to host the second Russia-Africa summit next summer. Preparatory activities are in full swing - not so long ago, the international parliamentary conference "Russia-Africa in a Multipolar World", which is considered a prologue to the summer summit, ended. The soft power of the Kremlin on the African continent is becoming more and more tangible.

Do not forget about the pragmatic economic interest of Russia. Of the latter, Nigeria in March bought out 30 percent of the monthly export of Russian gasoline. Before the start of the special operation, Europe was the main consumer of light oil products. Therefore, the visits of our diplomats to the Black Continent cannot be called only political actions. The goals they pursue are quite pragmatic and tangible.


Source: national projects.rf

Only here and others do not sit idly by.

Firstly, it is China, for which Africa has long and firmly been one of the key partners, more precisely, suppliers of resources. But Beijing also invests in local infrastructure more than all the others combined.

Secondly, Europeans, historically associated with local colonial heritage. France even decided to loosen its grip - Macron at the end of February announced his withdrawal from Mali and Burkina Faso. It is not known what was the true reason for the "noticeable reduction" - the weakness of Paris or the desire to please the local elites. The Europeans, who have long considered Africa their backyard, are now at a loss - the loss of positions is quite serious.

Algeria applied to the BRICS, and the Moroccans agreed on the construction of a nuclear power plant by Rosatom. And even more - the agreement prescribes "the design and construction of power and research nuclear reactors, as well as water desalination plants and particle accelerators."

The good old European racism does not add trust to Africans either. In one of his speeches, Josep Borrell compared the world surrounding Europe with the jungle, from which at any moment they can invade the wonderful garden of the Old World. Then, of course, he apologized, but the racist metaphors to the chief of European diplomacy will be remembered for a long time to come.

Before our eyes, a real battle is unfolding for the attention and favor of the African continent. And in any battle you have to spend money, and sometimes a lot.

The attraction of unprecedented generosity


Africa may well become the main victim of the consequences of the Russian NWO. The states of the continent are critically dependent on grain supplies, both from Russia and Ukraine. Actually, the whole essence of the notorious "grain deal" revolves around this thesis. Only now the Africans actually get leftovers from the master's table - over the past year, ships from Ukraine delivered no more than 3,3 million tons of grain to the countries of the continent. This is about three percent of exported volumes.

In its best years, Kyiv supplied more than a quarter of its exports to Africa. Now Europe has received the fattest piece - about 45 percent. The cynicism of the Brussels bosses' approach is astounding. Things got to the point that the price of wheat in Europe fell to the point that it was not profitable for local farmers to grow their own. Since December last year, the Poles have been futilely demanding the government to issue a tax on Ukrainian grain. The latest protests took place just a few days ago.


Last year, Russia sent 12 million tons of grain to Africa. A colossal imbalance illustrating Europe's relationship with its backyard. Borrell's words about the jungle around take on a new reading, they say, let them look for their own food - nature will feed the natives. Russia's generosity in this regard cannot be viewed solely in a political direction - a dozen million tons left for a reason. Africa paid.

But a fight is a fight, even if it's cold. And you have to sacrifice something. President Putin recently announced the possibility of supplying grain to Africa free of charge. This will happen if the Kremlin in a couple of months decides not to renew the “grain deal”, which is very controversial in its essence. Consumers will be compensated free of charge for the 3,3 million Ukrainian grain that fell out in this case. Only nothing is ever done in politics just like that - among Russian preferences there may well be a new military base or some other infrastructure facility. For example, another nuclear power plant.

Feeding the rapidly growing population of the continent is one thing, but providing agriculture with fertilizers is a little different. Russia has long been ready to send phosphorus, potash and, above all, nitrogen fertilizers to Africa free of charge. According to the President, Brussels deliberately puts obstacles, not allowing the resources frozen in Europe. Continuation of the story about the jungle - they themselves will find food and get enough, and whoever can't - well, natural selection in all its glory.

An equally important statement can be considered the expansion of quotas for state-funded places in universities for students from Africa. This was widely practiced in the days of the USSR, and then a large part of the elite of the Black Continent not only received a higher education, but also learned to think in the Soviet way. Many of them still keep warm feelings about our country. And this is the softest power that everyone is talking about.

The main irritant for the overly liberal public in Russia was the president's statement about the cancellation of $20 billion of debts from African states. Putin announced this at the Russia-Africa International Parliamentary Conference held in Moscow.

Here it is necessary to place several accents.

First of all, this is not the first time the Kremlin has forgiven third world countries for their debts. Africans last received such a gift in 2019, and nothing critical for the economy happened. Then the debts of Angola, Ethiopia, Libya, Algeria and Mozambique were written off. The modern list, I think, will not differ fundamentally. Cubans were also very lucky nine years ago when Russia “forgot” about $30 billion.

Secondly, no one is seriously considering repaying African debts. Hand on heart, does anyone believe that Mozambique can give a couple of billions to a creditor?

These are the realities of modern politics. Russia, in the best case, would return these same billions of years in forty or fifty. But right now I would have received the deaf malice of the leaders of Africa, and with it loyalty to the Europeans.

One has to pay for the multipolarity that is now being formed in the world. And it’s good that not from the country’s budget, but by writing off non-refundable funds.
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  1. +44
    25 March 2023 04: 05
    Economics, 18 Mar,
    Share
    Russia will allocate 603 million rubles. for ambulances for Angola

    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/6414d3229a7947acf7a29820
    One has to pay for the multipolarity that is now being formed in the world. And it’s good that not from the country’s budget, but by writing off non-refundable funds.
    Is this also out of budget? but on "our", from the people we collect "socks" ...
    1. AUL
      +47
      25 March 2023 09: 01
      The damned imperialists have always rushed into Africa to plunder it.
      We are constantly breaking in there so that Africa robs us. Because we are not imperialists!
      1. +19
        26 March 2023 17: 14
        The ideal option is for all the employees of the FIU, compulsory medical insurance and Sberbank to be transferred to Africa. Yes, and the ROC there too. From the first in Africa, salaries will fall even more, from the second, medicine will disappear, and Sberbank will make housing less affordable. Why the blacks will begin to die out. And the Russians, freed from the yoke of these organizations, will be able to revive the industry, and it will become easier to reap.
        1. +4
          26 March 2023 22: 26
          Quote: eule
          . Yes, and the Russian Orthodox Church there too

          What a cruel one you are. smile
          And what is there to do with that? Sing psalms under tam-tam? Or do you take them to the cannibals for re-education?
      2. +4
        28 March 2023 06: 18
        We are constantly breaking in there so that Africa robs us

        There are many ways to repay debts, for example, to enter the capital of their companies to buy shares, you can simply sell the debt to the states for half the price, but simply writing off the debt is incomprehensible.
    2. -3
      25 March 2023 21: 53
      Well, Russia will allocate 603 million rubles for the purchase of ambulances. And who will this money go to? They will go to the manufacturer of these machines. What's bad about it? The country finances its production and supports its producer. Here we should rejoice, not be sad!
    3. 0
      29 March 2023 19: 57
      Quote: Aerodrome
      Economics, 18 Mar,
      Share
      Russia will allocate 603 million rubles. for ambulances for Angola

      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/6414d3229a7947acf7a29820
      One has to pay for the multipolarity that is now being formed in the world. And it’s good that not from the country’s budget, but by writing off non-refundable funds.
      Is this also out of budget? but on "our", from the people we collect "socks" ...

      what we collect from the people is, of course, bad. but the fact that donated gazelles, with the right arrangement of things, will be followed by commercial deliveries, is very good for the budget. this is the right support for the Russian auto industry. The main thing now is that the warranty service is clearly established, and the prospects for gazelles as people's commercial vehicles in Angola are simply huge.

      1. In order to provide gratuitous technical assistance to the Republic of Angola, allocate in 2023
      1. In order to provide free technical assistance to the Republic of Angola, in 2023, to the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia, at the expense of the federal budget, up to 603120 thousand rubles should be allocated for the purchase of 50 ambulances based on the GAZelle BUSINESS GAZ-27057 4 x 4 with a diesel engine of an environmental standard not higher than EURO-3, sets of spare parts intended for warranty repair of the specified equipment, services for the delivery of the specified equipment and spare parts to the Republic of Angola, work on its warranty service and training services for relevant specialists.
  2. +46
    25 March 2023 04: 06
    So, we were again fucked not only by the hostile forces of the West, but also by the friendly forces of Africa? And what other grandmaster multi-move is next in line?
    1. AAK
      +25
      25 March 2023 13: 21
      If the money invested is not returned to us, we wipe out and forgive debts, normal creditors would have already taken the equivalent number of deposits, plantations, factories, newspapers, ships for the indicated amount, along with a penalty for non-payment, would have obliged them to provide plots for bases, for the construction of settlements for the recreation of our citizens, etc., but we are not imperialists, our leaders forgive the Papuans not their money, but ours ...
      1. +16
        25 March 2023 13: 41
        For this, in addition to normality, you need the ability to project force.
        And there are problems with that...
        Recall the campaign of our only aircraft carrier.
        This is when he could still go somewhere.
      2. +32
        25 March 2023 17: 00
        But if the population of the Russian Federation tries not to pay and asks to forgive debts (of which there are already more than 30 trillion rubles), something the state tells me will not forgive anything.
        1. +17
          25 March 2023 23: 55
          Quote: Mikhail Krivopalov
          something tells me the state will not forgive anything.

          There is a catchphrase for us - "There is no money! But you hold on"! And nothing changes! This is not the first write-off of debts, which means that this is an enrichment scheme. For no reason, even a boil does not jump up. hi
      3. Alf
        +20
        25 March 2023 17: 48
        Quote: AAK
        our leaders forgive the Papuans not their money, but ours ...

        1. -7
          25 March 2023 21: 01
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: AAK
          our leaders forgive the Papuans not their money, but ours ...


          Quote: ivan2022
          So, we were again fucked not only by the hostile forces of the West, but also by the friendly forces of Africa? And what other grandmaster multi-move is next in line?

          Quote: AAK
          If the money invested is not returned to us, we wipe out and forgive debts, normal creditors would have already taken the equivalent number of deposits, plantations, factories, newspapers, ships for the indicated amount, along with a penalty for non-payment, would have obliged them to provide plots for bases, for the construction of settlements for the recreation of our citizens, etc., but we are not imperialists, our leaders forgive the Papuans not their money, but ours ...

          Specify just in case, how and to whom did the USSR write off debts?!!!
          There in this list are the same countries as now
          1. Alf
            +19
            25 March 2023 21: 19
            Quote: your1970
            Specify just in case, how and to whom did the USSR write off debts?!!!

            Angola, Mozambique .. Here's just a little nuance - in Angola and Mozambique, the entire periodic table, and especially uranium, lay at the depth of a bayonet shovel and the USSR received all this practically for free ... In Cuba, there was such a crap called Lourdes, recall WHAT on did this database work?
            1. -5
              26 March 2023 08: 29
              Quote: Alf
              especially uranium, lay at the depth of a bayonet shovel and the USSR received all this practically for free ...

              1) Do you know for sure that we still do not receive this?
              2) if we write off the debt, then the same uranium is no longer free, but for the amount written off. And this is if they did not pay for it separately
              3)
              Quote: Alf
              In Cuba, there was such a crap called Lourdes, to remind WHAT worked on this base?
              - and Cuba was kept completely for this. Transport, fuel, food
              1. +7
                26 March 2023 11: 56
                Putin's cronies get it possible. But the Russian budget is unlikely .....
                1. -1
                  April 2 2023 19: 03
                  Quote: Minus
                  Putin's cronies get it possible. But the Russian budget is unlikely .....

                  Torn from the tongue ...
        2. -7
          25 March 2023 22: 06
          So what's the crime? Countries cannot return the money. New purchases cannot be made due to debt. What to do? Debts are written off. Russian products are purchased (the money goes to the manufacturer of the product), creditors repay debts. Everything is done right. Money is pouring into the Russian economy! If money is pouring in, then production is developing! And the USSR did the right thing by giving loans. Money poured into the economy of their country, the country secured a market for its products and influence in this region. And this is also support in international organizations! It's good that Russia began to give loans for the purchase of its products. Let them buy grain, fertilizers, tractors, cars and so on from us. All this will work in the interests of Russia. The village will receive a guaranteed sale of grain and money for it. The fertilizer plant will also receive guaranteed sales. Guaranteed sales will be at the tractor and automobile plant! What's wrong with stability?
          1. Alf
            +20
            25 March 2023 22: 11
            Quote: North Caucasus
            So what's the crime? Countries cannot return the money.

            On the one hand, you said everything correctly, on the other hand, some countries very quickly get used to the fact that debts can not be repaid. I would try now at least one banana republic not to repay China's debt ... It's just that China is acting much smarter. It gives a loan for the purchase of its products, which are produced by Chinese firms, made by Chinese workers, and the money paid on the loan goes back to China, and only debts remain for the banana republic.
            And another moment. The fact is that the PRC does not just lend, but forces them to create, as they used to say, joint ventures, and they take the most tidbits. And it turns out that the ports, factories, railways do not belong to the Bananovites.
            1. -6
              26 March 2023 08: 52
              And another moment. The fact is that the PRC does not just lend, but forces them to create, as they used to say, joint ventures, and they take the most tidbits. And it turns out that the ports, factories, railways do not belong to the Bananovites.
              Do you think the capitalists of Russia are worse than the Chinese!? wassat Under capitalism, the more they consider the loot! Do oligarchs do a lot of charity work? Here, too, there is no charity. Pure business. You could say it's the perfect business! Guaranteed product sales and profit! Greetings social guarantees of socialism! Bourgeois also not alien to the ideas of socialism, especially with the guarantee of profit! wassat They can scold socialism as much as they like. But! When socialism touches them, they are ardently for it! tongue laughing wassat So understand these bourgeois!
              1. Alf
                +6
                26 March 2023 21: 09
                Quote: North Caucasus
                Do you think the capitalists of Russia are worse than the Chinese!?

                Factor of. The modern Russian capitalist differs from the Chinese one in that he is set up only for short-term profits, he has no interest in the long term.
            2. 0
              29 March 2023 12: 19
              It gives a loan for the purchase of its products, which are produced by Chinese firms, made by Chinese workers, and the money paid on the loan goes back to China, and only debts remain for the banana republic.

              Now the workers are mostly taken from the locals. Previously, the Chinese had to be discharged, because the locals worked very badly, but they did the training and it seemed to get better, plus it’s very cheap because they have a couple of bucks a day, which is already higher than the average income in the country.
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          3. -1
            April 2 2023 19: 11
            Quote: North Caucasus
            So what's the crime? Countries cannot return the money. New purchases cannot be made due to debt. What to do? Debts are written off. Russian products are purchased (the money goes to the manufacturer of the product), creditors repay debts. Everything is done right. Money is pouring into the Russian economy! If money is pouring in, then production is developing! And the USSR did the right thing by giving loans. Money poured into the economy of their country, the country secured a market for its products and influence in this region. And this is also support in international organizations! It's good that Russia began to give loans for the purchase of its products. Let them buy grain, fertilizers, tractors, cars and so on from us. All this will work in the interests of Russia. The village will receive a guaranteed sale of grain and money for it. The fertilizer plant will also receive guaranteed sales. Guaranteed sales will be at the tractor and automobile plant! What's wrong with stability?

            Sorry for a few questions. First, how many full-cycle tractor factories do we have? Second, tell me which villages sell grain to Africans?
          4. 0
            April 3 2023 00: 39
            Quote: North Caucasus
            What to do? Debts are written off.

            Well hello sailed!! Current loshara write off debts!!!!!
            A typical capitalist will make a typical debt restructuring, make a deferment for 20 years, take ownership of a piece of land, etc., etc.!!! But he won't write off the debt!! This debt will allow you to manipulate the debtor.
            He cannot repay the debt - let him think how and with what he can in the future - let them pay off the construction of the naval base, the right to single-handedly extract resources (coal, uranium, gold, fish, frogs) But DO NOT WRITE OFF THE DEBT !!!
            Then the debtor will ask for more, and then they will write off again, and he will ask for more .. and so on.
    2. -10
      25 March 2023 21: 56
      The multi-way point is that when purchasing products made in Russia, the money will flow into the Russian economy! Such a financial investment in production! But the African countries will pay the interest. If on the fingers, the plant was given non-refundable money that the uncle will return. Is it clear now?
      1. +8
        26 March 2023 03: 36
        Quote: North Caucasus
        If on the fingers, the plant was given non-refundable money that the uncle will return. Is it clear now?

        and "uncle" is we ... is it clear that ... par?
        1. -5
          26 March 2023 08: 56
          Actually, our factories received the money! Guaranteed sold products! And uncles from Africa will pay! And not necessarily money! This can be in kind, and political support, and money. But money is the last resort. Here the stakes are higher than money.
          1. +9
            26 March 2023 09: 44
            Actually, our factories received the money! Guaranteed sold products! And uncles from Africa will pay!

            Dear North Caucasus.
            You are greatly mistaken. Our factories received the money - no one argues with that. But what is this money? This is money from the Russian budget. The state budget is the taxes of Russian citizens.
            "There is no 'public money', only taxpayer money" - Margaret Thatcher

            Money was given by Russian citizens to our Russian enterprises. Theoretically, enterprises should supply the inhabitants of Russia with the goods produced for the money received from the people. But citizens will not receive the goods. The product turned out to be more needed in Africa. Against this background, it would be possible to cancel the pension reform. In order to somehow compensate for the losses from the budget.
            And it turns out like this: You come to the store and pay money for groceries. They do not give them to you, but give them to your neighbor. Because the store has its own "political" views on your neighbor. Because the store wants to get your neighbor to fix a leaky faucet. It's good that the store will not have problems with water supply. So you are in the plus. The store is working. But you pay for this work. Something like this.
            1. -3
              26 March 2023 15: 04
              Not certainly in that way. The money was allocated from the budget. They went undertaking. From there, for salaries, the purchase of raw materials, components, and the payment of taxes. Money poured into the country's economy. The economy has worked. What of the fact that let's say GAZ released a car, but is it worth it? And then they bought a batch, subcontractors started working, salaries went! Then Africa is new markets. If you trade only within the country, then demand is very limited. Growing foreign markets will push production. Of course, we will receive something from Africa. Not necessarily bananas. Europe at one time colonized a lot of territories and lived well. Do you think China is so bad that they fund Africa? A Chinese factory needs raw materials and markets for products. The Russian market will not replace the EU and African markets. He is too small. Therefore, in the current political and economic situation, writing off Africa's debts is the right move. The same states are fighting to death for the opportunity to lend, and here we are chewing snot. We need to repay old debts! Money has been injected into our economy. Now we need new injections. Russia has not lost or lost anything by writing off debts. It is difficult for many to understand this step of Russia. But he is faithful.
            2. 0
              27 March 2023 10: 00
              Quote: AA17
              The state budget is the taxes of Russian citizens.
              "There is no 'public money', only taxpayer money" - Margaret Thatcher

              Money was given by Russian citizens to our Russian enterprises

              For M. Thatcher and England, this was exactly the case, for Russia everything is completely different. Absolutely not so ...
              Our budget for 62% consists of revenues from the Federal Customs Service and only 18% from the Federal Tax Service.
              As it is not strange for countries with normal economies ...
              Therefore, we say that "The army, the state apparatus, teachers, police, doctors and other state employees are supported by my taxes !!" - incorrect
              1. +3
                27 March 2023 11: 28
                1) Not so long ago, the customs officers were given to the tax authorities. Now they are indistinguishable
                2) I, as the end consumer, pay the same money in duties as in taxes. Import duties on foreign cars, alcohol, cigarettes and much more. This is if directly, if indirectly, then I pay duties on all kinds of machine tools indirectly through the price of the goods produced on them. Still start rubbing me that this is not so
              2. +3
                27 March 2023 11: 32
                Respected.
                Interesting. And that the FCS takes money from its own pocket, i.e. "from the nightstand"??? I agree that most of the taxes that go to the Russian budget are the MET tax. And what? Our economy is focused on the export of Russia's natural resources. Our natural wealth supposedly belongs to the people, so every citizen has every right to say: "The army, state apparatus, teachers, police, doctors and other state employees are supported by my taxes!!" - and it will be very correct. There is also VAT, Russian citizens also pay it for retail and wholesale purchases of products, because it "sits" in the price of any product. A check from the store will not let you lie.
  3. -8
    25 March 2023 04: 06
    Who knows, in the end, you can get a loan, and then exert pressure, at least moral.
  4. -20
    25 March 2023 04: 13
    Against the backdrop of our losses in the form of all sorts of freezes on our funds of "national welfare", to hell with them, with these debts. Maybe the chung-chang will repay you kindly. Somehow we can't be friends... sad
    1. +2
      25 March 2023 07: 41
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      Maybe the chung-chang will pay back. Somehow we can't be friends...

      Here the question is simple - I don’t think that we will even climb into the same Africa just to spend a lot of money. What happened during the union when they fed all sorts of "friendly" regimes from Nasser to outright cannibals, it was overgrown with grass. Now grandmothers are counting. What can we get from this? Bases, bowels, sales. This is what lies on the surface. But it’s interesting, debt forgiveness can’t be a kind of withdrawal of funds? There really are options: someone's funds? Or the withdrawal of funds from the sanctions? After all, in fact, with all this publicity, no one knows where these funds were directed in these countries? We do not even know if these were goods or "live" money in the accounts.
      1. AUL
        +3
        25 March 2023 09: 08
        Quote: NDR-791
        But it’s interesting, debt forgiveness can’t be a kind of withdrawal of funds?

        How do you imagine it?! belay
        1. +6
          25 March 2023 09: 49
          Quote from AUL
          How do you imagine it?! belay
          Like Storchak...
          Commenting on the course of the investigation of the Storchak case, the head of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation A. Bastrykin said that "the country is being plundered by the best minds"
          By the way, Storchak was recaptured, until 2020 he served in office
          Schemes are known and worked out
      2. +16
        25 March 2023 17: 04
        I will give an example from the mid-90s when I lived in Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia owes the Russian Federation for gas either 8 or 12 million dollars and the payment was delayed. A commissioner arrives from Moscow, they walk around beautifully and give him 2 million dollars in cash in a suitcase, in response this commissioner forgives the entire debt ...
        1. -1
          27 March 2023 20: 15
          There is no such "authorized person" who has the right to write off the public debt. You do not confuse your wool with the state!
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      3. -5
        25 March 2023 22: 14
        . What happened during the union when they fed all sorts of "friendly" regimes from Nasser to outright cannibals
        Friendly treatment meant a guaranteed market for our products. The states have blown up the gas pipeline to guarantee the sale of their gas! So friendly modes are good. And they will take your products and support them in an international organization. Yes, and our production stable sales and receipt of money. But we began to feed half the world after the collapse of the USSR. It was we who gave work to foreign factories and we paid foreign workers! We developed their science and technology!
    2. -20
      25 March 2023 11: 02
      They wrote off 20 billion, but how much did they earn in African countries?
      1. +27
        25 March 2023 13: 37
        President Putin recently announced the possibility of supplying grain to Africa free of charge. This will happen if the Kremlin in a couple of months decides not to renew the “grain deal”, which is very controversial in its essence. Consumers will be compensated free of charge for the 3,3 million Ukrainian grain that fell out in this case. Only nothing is ever done in politics just like that - among Russian preferences there may well be a new military base or some other infrastructure facility. For example, another nuclear power plant.

        Feeding the rapidly growing population of the continent is one thing, but providing agriculture with fertilizers is a little different. Russia has long been ready to send Africa free of charge phosphorus, potash and, above all, nitrogen fertilizers

        What is it called???
        Business in Russian????
        Why compensate unsold Ukrainian grain free of charge? If there is no grain deal, it will be possible to sell Russian instead of Ukrainian. What difference does it make to them who to buy from? That is, they buy from Ukrainians, and if you can’t buy from Ukrainians, then let the Russians give it? Yes. Business in Russian.

        Or another infrastructure project like a nuclear power plant. The scheme is as follows: forgive old debts, build a nuclear power plant on credit, write off the loan, get a rollback. A curtain.

        Free fertilizer is awesome too. That is, for their farmers, prices rise by leaps and bounds, and therefore the cost of production rises, and therefore the price on the shelf also rises. And the Russian consumer pays for all this. But they want to send to Africa for free.

        There are no such stupid officials. There "like for free" at the expense of the budget, but I feel the kickbacks there are not weak.

        In general, business in Russian, it is like a Russian rebellion, senseless and merciless.
        1. +14
          25 March 2023 17: 07
          Why is it meaningless, for some characters there is a very specific meaning
      2. Alf
        +8
        25 March 2023 17: 49
        Quote: tralflot1832
        They wrote off 20 billion, but how much did they earn in African countries?

        And how many ? Numbers, numbers, bring...
      3. +2
        25 March 2023 21: 25
        Quote: tralflot1832
        They wrote off 20 billion, but how much did they earn in African countries?
        If not a secret: who?
      4. -7
        25 March 2023 22: 23
        How much did you earn in African countries? The question is posed incorrectly. How much will Russia earn on African countries. Africa is a treasure trove of minerals and a young, fast-growing population means a fast-growing market. And Russia urgently needs to stake out this market for itself. These countries need to buy our products. They will buy our products, our economy will develop. After all, the money from loans goes to our enterprises! The states are willing to sell military equipment because of the guaranteed receipt of the dough in their military-industrial complex. Now they are disposing of all weapons in the EU and they will have a sales market where we cannot sell anything! Here it is competitive struggle in all its glory! It's not a trifle for you to dig into your pockets!
        1. +1
          27 March 2023 20: 18
          Wah, well said! For reference, almost all African countries at the UN General Assembly voted for the exclusion of the Russian Federation from the Human Rights Council and the recognition of our country as an "aggressor". Even those who owe us their independence and very existence to the grave.
        2. 0
          April 1 2023 11: 08
          There, China has been standing for a quarter of a century. Too late to drink Borjomi...
    3. 0
      April 3 2023 00: 43
      Changi changi, and all sorts of Mowglis - they jump as they want .. then they jump like this for 20 years, and then they send everyone to hell and jump differently ..
      A simple example of EGYPT is still those skakuas.
  5. -5
    25 March 2023 04: 14
    An equally important statement can be considered the expansion of quotas for state-funded places in universities for students from Africa. This was widely practiced in the days of the USSR, and then a large part of the elite of the Black Continent not only received a higher education, but also learned to think in the Soviet way. Many of them still keep warm feelings about our country.

    There's something about it.
    When I was young, I had a friend from Sri Lanka who was in medical school. She still loves Pushkin and Tsvetaeva. He spoke Russian perfectly, albeit with an accent, of course. Decades have passed, but he still admires Russian culture. He says that many specialists in Sri Lanka received their higher education in the USSR. They have children, of course, relatives and acquaintances, whom they warmly told about life in the Union. The prestige of Russia today is very high there, and according to my friend, every fourth person on their iPhone has a screensaver - a photo of Putin or a Russian flag.
    1. +15
      25 March 2023 07: 06
      It was cool to study in the USSR, and on the screen saver there is a photo of Putin.
      1. +21
        25 March 2023 07: 13
        There are a lot of them, they studied in the USSR or in Russia, they keep warm feelings, they remember twenty words in Russian and that's it laughing
        Friendship of peoples is what it is - the one who invented friendship must pay for everything
        1. +6
          26 March 2023 12: 15
          studied in the USSR or in Russia, keep warm feelings
          I met here (UK) an Indian who graduated from lumumbarium. He only remembers trips to ladies with low SD. and the fact that Russia is cold. Well, a couple of swear words.
    2. +18
      25 March 2023 09: 06
      Quote: Comrade
      When I was young, I had a friend from Sri Lanka who was in medical school.

      Sri Lanka is Asia, not Africa, which was written off 20 billion
      Quote: Comrade
      The prestige of Russia today is very high there, and according to my friend, every fourth person on their iPhone has a screensaver - a photo of Putin or a Russian flag.
      Do you really believe in this blizzard? Do you have many acquaintances in Russia with such screensavers? Normal people usually put photos of their loved ones (children, loved ones, etc.), or something neutral there.
      1. +6
        25 March 2023 21: 28
        Do you really believe in this blizzard? Do you have many acquaintances in Russia with such screensavers? Normal people usually put photos of their loved ones (children, loved ones, etc.), or something neutral there.
        Why believe in it if you can carry it?! lol
    3. +21
      25 March 2023 19: 35
      Quote: Comrade
      The prestige of Russia today is very high there, and according to my friend, every fourth person on their iPhone has a screensaver - a photo of Putin or a Russian flag.

      It's just a pity that in the store the authority of Russia is not accepted instead of money.
  6. +35
    25 March 2023 04: 39
    The author is great. To write off debts of $ 20 billion to Africans, to supply fertilizers and wheat for free. This is in addition to the absurdity of the grain deal itself, which is carried out only by the Russian Federation and which is beneficial only to Ukraine and the West. All right wise power does!
    And what about writing off endless debts on loans to their own citizens? No and no again ! This is extremism!! There is no need to talk about a decrease in housing prices at all.
    As for the fact that supposedly these debts cannot be returned, then debts can be repaid in different ways - it can be in goods from oil to sugar, it is possible to control property and finances (as the West does)
    1. -16
      25 March 2023 05: 35
      And what about writing off endless debts on loans to their own citizens?
      So these citizens will immediately gain new loans. The nurtured craving for consumption, and even with a freebie, is irresistible.
      1. +27
        25 March 2023 08: 17
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        And what about writing off endless debts on loans to their own citizens?
        So these citizens will immediately gain new loans. The nurtured craving for consumption, and even with a freebie, is irresistible.

        So Africa is also gaining new loans. You don't think this is the last one, do you? Over there, the article states that Nigeria buys our gasoline, I’m sure that it’s also in debt. And then again he refuses that there is nothing to pay and you need to write off
        1. -26
          25 March 2023 09: 20
          You can expect at least something from Africa, but from our citizens with a bunch of CONSUMER loans, only dissatisfaction with the "regime".
          1. +22
            25 March 2023 09: 21
            Quote: Andrey Moskvin
            You can expect at least something from Africa, but from our citizens with a bunch of CONSUMER loans, only dissatisfaction with the "regime".

            So there will be discontent from Africa too. They will say little
          2. +27
            25 March 2023 12: 02
            and from our citizens with a bunch of CONSUMER loans, only dissatisfaction with the "regime"
            - well, yes, because these are not the citizens who pay taxes, these are not the citizens who extract oil, gas, gold, platinum and other minerals, these are not the citizens who go to serve in the army, fight and die in Ukraine, these are not the citizens who work in factories, factories and etc.
            Is this all done by the country's leadership itself? Or are the children of the country's leadership fighting in Ukraine? It's not the country's leadership that stabbed the entire population of Russia with deposits, vouchers, privatization, pension contributions and retirement age? It's probably something else...
          3. +13
            25 March 2023 19: 39
            Quote: Andrey Moskvin
            You can expect something from Africa,

            And the money that our leadership forgives Africa with, it took from the bedside table, and the guard? Or maybe they were earned by these same people who are forced to take out loans just because they simply don’t have enough of this donated money in Africa?
            1. -7
              25 March 2023 22: 44
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Quote: Andrey Moskvin
              You can expect something from Africa,

              And the money that our leadership forgives Africa with, it took from the bedside table, and the guard? Or maybe they were earned by these same people who are forced to take out loans just because they simply don’t have enough of this donated money in Africa?
              and in the USSR, when the general secretaries forgave their debts - was that the norm?
      2. +9
        25 March 2023 10: 00
        They will take it because they are poor because of the capitalists.
      3. +10
        25 March 2023 15: 21
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        And what about writing off endless debts on loans to their own citizens?
        So these citizens will immediately gain new loans. The nurtured craving for consumption, and even with a freebie, is irresistible.

        Credit slavery in general is evil. Do not want citizens to take loans? Make such a system when they will not do it, raise their salaries and limit the issuance of loans in principle. Now, in order to make a large purchase or have an operation, etc. people are simply forced to take out loans.
        And in any case, if someone has something to forgive, it's better to forgive their , not someone else's. It does not matter whether it is the debts of military-industrial complex enterprises to banks or the debts of citizens, or anything else.
        1. 0
          26 March 2023 17: 24
          Quote: Belisarius
          Credit slavery in general is evil. Do not want citizens to take loans?

          Just don't give it out to just anyone. As with a weapon - certificates of sanity, inability to register, checking the databases so that there are no administrative offenses, taking financial literacy courses, passing an exam in economics and logic. For any violation - the loan is canceled, the money is returned to the person, the object to the bank.
          For the transfer of a credit card or its data to an outsider, as for the transfer of weapons - the card will be taken away, and a ban on obtaining loans for many years. Once every few years, retaking the right to receive and use loans - an exam in economics, taking into account changes in laws, an exam in logic. Who is older than 65 - an examination of a psychologist, a medical board for the right to receive loans. Failed the exam - the return of all money paid, the return to the bank of the purchased item, the ban on re-taking at least for a year.
          1. 0
            29 March 2023 15: 12
            the funniest thing, although there is nothing funny about it, is that the interest on consumer loans is so high, because there are defaults from unreliable customers. It turns out that when I take out a loan, I pay for myself and for that guy. And it would be stupid to do so, but sometimes there are situations when without a loan, neither here nor there, and procrastination is like death. That is how we live.
        2. 0
          27 March 2023 12: 29
          Quote: Belisarius
          Credit slavery in general is evil. Do not want citizens to take loans? Make such a system when they don’t do it - raise their salaries and limit the issuance of loans in principle
          Let me modestly remind you that in the USSR, citizens took loans from the Savings Bank at interest. Moreover, the interest was quite decent for some types of loans - from 1% to 9% per annum.
          Moreover, the USSR encouraged citizens to take loans
        3. 0
          April 1 2023 11: 14
          Why is it evil? Amer's economy is quite spinning on loans. True, for this you need to be able to merge your growing money supply into the outside world - so that they take the papers printed by you and also say thanks
      4. Alf
        +9
        25 March 2023 17: 53
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        And what about writing off endless debts on loans to their own citizens?
        So these citizens will immediately gain new loans. The nurtured craving for consumption, and even with a freebie, is irresistible.

        And you can see what the debts are taken for. If on an iPhone 10 or on a Merina, then do not touch the debt, but if you collect a child for school or for an operation (such as free medicine), then it is quite possible. For some reason, Chechnya and Ingushetia were written off with an awesome motivation - But they can’t give it back ...
      5. SNA
        -4
        25 March 2023 20: 28
        They will recruit, and they will also find fault with the authorities. And their own frivolity seems to have nothing to do with it.
      6. 0
        April 1 2023 11: 11
        African countries act differently? Just as the colonizers, tormented by historical guilt, nurtured the desire for freebies among Africans, so no Russian banking system tried
  7. +17
    25 March 2023 05: 07
    Interestingly, the girls are dancing ....... Britain, the USA, China are investing in the former Soviet republics and making profits ...... From those from whom the Russians "liberated" themselves under Yeltsin.

    The fate of our Fatherland is different: "carrying the cross" ........ Yeah .. eklmn .... To be like that is really Destiny !!!

    Maybe this is at least partly the reason for Ukrainian Russophobia? It is understandable, not everyone will endure this ..... There may be breakdowns.
    1. -5
      25 March 2023 09: 15
      "My hut is on the edge" is not a breakdown, but a state of the Selyuk's soul.
  8. 0
    25 March 2023 05: 28
    Africa has many faces. There are rich countries. There are also those that people simply have nothing to eat. Even in the same country, people live differently. Will all this change with our help? Perhaps at the very minimum. Something will fall to the poor.
    1. +4
      25 March 2023 09: 07
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Africa has many faces. There are rich countries.
      For example?
    2. +5
      25 March 2023 11: 06
      Africa has many faces.

      There was already information about this
      2 minute
    3. +1
      26 March 2023 17: 27
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Something goes to the poor

      Of course not. The rich will take everything and either sell it to the poor or use it themselves. As with European humanitarian aid.
  9. +5
    25 March 2023 05: 39
    First of all, this is not the first time the Kremlin has forgiven third world countries for their debts.

    The author forgets to mention that these are debts to the USSR. Russia assumed the obligations of the USSR to the West and even paid off the "tsarist" debts, and now, on this basis, it considers that the debts to the USSR have become debts to Russia. But the debtors of the USSR did not recognize their debt obligations to Russia, and these agreements were with the Paris club of creditors. So that no one was going to pay them.
    Cubans were also very lucky nine years ago when Russia “forgot” about $30 billion.

    The main part of the debt was the cost of the construction of the Juragua nuclear power plant (an unfinished nuclear power plant in Cuba in the province of Cienfuegos, 200 km from Havana. The station was built according to the Soviet design based on VVER-440 reactors. The construction of the station was terminated in 1992, after the collapse of the USSR and the termination economic aid to Cuba) with interest. Only an idiot would voluntarily pay for an unfinished nuclear power plant, and the Cubans may not recognize the Russian Federation as the heir to the USSR.
    1. 0
      April 1 2023 11: 20
      That is, if the nuclear power plant was completed, Cuba would have paid $60 billion with a whistle - well, or how much would it have run up in the end? Do you yourself believe in such a development of events?
  10. +24
    25 March 2023 05: 41
    The country's leadership cannot collect debts from African countries and therefore writes them off? And the stupid Africans are getting into debt again - they’ll write off one hell of a lot later. This is reminiscent of the joke about the hedgehog and the cactus. Does Russia need political support from African countries? I am begging you.
    They cannot collect debts - so sell these debts to our billionaires at a discount, they will find something to take from the dark continent. Or can they only milk the Russian budget, and then run away to London?
    1. +14
      25 March 2023 13: 59
      They cannot collect debts - so sell these debts to our billionaires at a discount, they will find something to take from the dark continent

      This is not for you to sell bank debts of citizens to collectors.
      It is impossible to collect debt from a sovereign country if that country is unwilling to pay its debts.
      There are vulture funds that buy bad debts, rush through all the courts, beat them out by legal methods, but they do not take African debts. It's impossible to get out there.
      African kings do not care about all these decisions of arbitration courts. There is no money and that's it.
      This is Argentina, Greece and other fairly developed countries negotiate with creditors, draw up a payment schedule and pay.
      Try to get Robert Mugabe out of debt. Or Jacop Zuma, who is accused of raping an HIV-positive maid. To which he replied to reporters: everything was voluntary and after that I took a shower, so I won’t get infected with HIV.
      Show such a king the decision of the Stockholm Arbitration or the High Court of London, so such a king in the truest sense of the word can wipe himself with this piece of paper.
      1. Alf
        +10
        25 March 2023 17: 58
        Quote: Beetle1991
        Show such a king the decision of the Stockholm Arbitration or the High Court of London, so such a king in the truest sense of the word can wipe himself with this piece of paper.

        And since such a booze has begun, then Bob Denard or Mad Mike or Jean Schramm appears on the horizon, after which the government that refuses to pay is fired en masse by machine guns, and the new one is ready to give up the whole country, just not to end up in a neighboring ditch ...
        1. +1
          26 March 2023 17: 31
          Quote: Alf
          then Bob Denard or Mad Mike or Jean Schramm appears on the horizon

          That's it!
          If blacks receive humanitarian aid, then the Russian Ku Klux Klan should monitor its distribution, and in any attempt to trade it, kill the seller. If they take a healthy person in the ambulance donated by the Russians, they will be shot in the toilet.
          That is, control of targeted use - on a certain structure of volunteers, who, in addition to a small salary, are allowed to take the property of black criminals. A proven method, even under Ivan the Terrible.
  11. +26
    25 March 2023 05: 52
    Maybe - it made sense to put all this grain inside the country, say, for livestock feed? To finally achieve self-sufficiency in beef? And the unfortunate starving Negroes - let them somehow get out on their own? For example - will they finally seriously take up their agriculture?
    1. +27
      25 March 2023 07: 32
      What can I say .. "Russia is a generous soul" .. You see
      These are the realities of modern politics.
      So what is it
      did it make sense to put grain inside the country, say, for livestock feed? To finally achieve self-sufficiency in beef?
      to be forgotten, because
      One has to pay for the multipolarity that is now being formed in the world.
      In short, we are helping everyone again at the expense of our own people. We are tired of everything. Both blacks and our wise leaders with our hands ..
    2. +2
      27 March 2023 09: 31
      They cannot go into agriculture. The example of South Africa is right before our eyes - the local whites left - and immediately for some reason everything stopped growing on the farms, no matter how hard the local non-whites tried.
  12. -14
    25 March 2023 06: 52
    Quote: Belisarius
    And what about writing off endless debts on loans to their own citizens? No and no again !
    For the participants of the SVO, the deputies went to a meeting "according to Federal Law No. 229-FZ “On Enforcement Proceedings”, in respect of debtors who are part of the Russian armed forces, enforcement proceedings must be suspended, in whole or in part. This means that all the debts that the fighters have have the right to write off." And if you write off those who took a loan in advance without thinking of returning it, then he will immediately take another one, or even two. Isn't it a fat freebie for those who are in the rear?
    1. +14
      25 March 2023 08: 19
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Quote: Belisarius
      And what about writing off endless debts on loans to their own citizens? No and no again !
      For the participants of the SVO, the deputies went to a meeting "according to Federal Law No. 229-FZ “On Enforcement Proceedings”, in respect of debtors who are part of the Russian armed forces, enforcement proceedings must be suspended, in whole or in part. This means that all the debts that the fighters have have the right to write off." And if you write off those who took a loan in advance without thinking of returning it, then he will immediately take another one, or even two. Isn't it a fat freebie for those who are in the rear?

      Banks are not fools, it's just that now the participants of the NWO will not be able to take any loans at all. Just a CBO member, your loan is not approved. Banks know how to count money
      1. +1
        25 March 2023 23: 35
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Just a CBO member, your loan is not approved. Banks know how to count money


        Calculate payments of 195 tons. r per month, payments in case of death or injury and a loan will be given. I think that even now the economic bloc of the Government of the Russian Federation thinks that the good salaries given out have not turned people's heads. Therefore - rising prices, inflation. hi
  13. +10
    25 March 2023 07: 10
    The West, thanks to its "generous soul", can redirect money from funds for starving Africa to "starving Ukraine."
    In addition to the image image in the media, Africa cannot help Russia with anything significant.
  14. +8
    25 March 2023 08: 09
    President Putin recently announced the possibility of supplying grain to Africa free of charge.

    If only the country's windfall deficit did not create a normal price for free grain for Africa to our peasants.
    Russia has long been ready to send phosphorus, potash and, above all, nitrogen fertilizers to Africa free of charge.

    If only he didn’t create a shortage within the country and give our producers a normal price for free fertilizers for Africa. And it’s better for our peasants to sleep twice as much for free.
    battle for attention and favor

    It is high time to create an indicator of countries' loyalty, similar to an exchange one. Take into account, for example, the existence of common borders, the presence of foreign bases, which blocs they belong to, how the ChKM trades with Russia, how they vote in the UN on issues important to Russia, how they repay debts, whether they have our bases on the territory, etc. and so on. And based on the indicators to provide assistance. Can someone help to provide categorically contraindicated.
  15. +5
    25 March 2023 08: 09
    Ndaaa ... "No applause needed! The Count of Monte Cristo didn’t work out of me. I’ll have to retrain as a house manager. I’m 33 years old - the age of Jesus Christ, but what have I done? I didn’t create the teachings, I squandered the students, I didn’t resurrect poor Panikovsky!" c) About today's Russia .. Over the past 33 years ...
  16. -20
    25 March 2023 08: 15
    All power to the Soviets!

    Quote: E. Fedorov
    This is not the first time the Kremlin has forgiven third world countries for their debts.

    The most dangerous lie is the one that tells half the truth.

    For us, money is a means of survival. For the state, money is a way to conduct global, foreign and domestic policy.

    We do not forgive debts. In return, we get access to their resources. and, not least, we increase the political prestige of the country throughout the world. Russia is once again pursuing an independent global policy. With which I congratulate all of us.

    1. +12
      25 March 2023 09: 37
      In fact, everything is upside down. We need to start with internal programs to raise the standard of living, which they did in the USSR, and therefore they were an example for many third world countries.
      1. -17
        25 March 2023 09: 50
        Quote from dunkan
        It is necessary to start about internal programs for raising the standard of living

        Inflation 3,7%. The lowest unemployment rate. And all this in the context of the implementation of the SVO and the most stringent sanctions. Does this not satisfy you? Do you want as in the West - inflation over 10% and crazy unemployment?

        Our dreams will always be ahead of our capabilities, but there is no need to ruin the country for the sake of the dream of lacy panties. You just need to make money on them with your own work, and not wait for manna from heaven from someone else's uncle who promises these panties, and when you believe in it, he will take the last ones off you.
        1. +10
          25 March 2023 23: 43
          Quote: Boris55
          Inflation 3,7%. The lowest unemployment rate

          You are not in the thought, and not on the report of the President. Therefore, operate with real numbers. hi
    2. +16
      25 March 2023 14: 06
      We do not forgive debts. In return, we get access to their resources and, not least, we increase the country's political prestige throughout the world.

      Access to what resources did Russia get for debt relief???? For example in Cuba, Ethiopia, Uganda?
      No need to chase. This is pure debt relief. Well, maybe some official will get a kickback from overseas friends for helping to resolve the debt issue.
  17. +23
    25 March 2023 08: 50
    Strongly against any free deliveries to any country. What can we have, take something in Africa that we don't have? Our former Central Asia is milking us to the fullest. 20 billion dollars was thrown into the jungle, the desert. All free deliveries smell like corruption. Both bread and gasoline, in the country where they were delivered, are sold for money, so why can't they pay for the goods? They sold gasoline to Nigeria, but where will the money be put for the sale? Back to Switzerland? And Nigeria does not need so much gasoline, it will go to Europe, to Ukraine. Part of the money goes in the form of compensation, bribes to those who make decisions or offer free supplies.
    Do we have no one to allocate 20 billion? Doctors, teachers, pensioners, peasants, young families with children. People in our country do not take loans from a good life, and they need help so that they live well. soldier
    1. -23
      25 March 2023 09: 09
      All power to the Soviets!

      Quote: V.
      What can we have, take something in Africa that we don't have?

      We don't have a lot of things that we have in Africa.

      Quote: V.
      And bread and gasoline, in the country where they put it, are sold for money

      Money - extremely generalized information about product exchange.
      This is a fair way to distribute the product.

      Quote: V.
      Do we have no one to allocate 20 billion? Doctors, teachers, pensioners, peasants, young families with children.

      That is where the state sends money. To support teachers, doctors, pensioners, peasants and maternity capital, for free lunches at school, etc.

      Quote: V.
      People in our country do not take loans from a good life

      I agree with this - not from a good life, but from a very good one.
      By the way, homeless people don't get loans.
      1. +13
        25 March 2023 09: 39
        Do you remember what country you live in, Boris Leontievich, and what political and economic system is in our country now? You either put on shorts or change the flag. soldier
        1. -20
          25 March 2023 09: 53
          Quote: V.
          Do you remember what country you live in and what is the political and economic system in our country now?

          We are ending the transitional period from a country-colony to a country-socialism of the Stalinist model (there will be no freebies).
          1. +9
            25 March 2023 16: 15
            Boris 55, please remind me, when did this transitional period begin, and how does it manifest itself? After all, something epoch-making must happen in politics and economics, right? Enlighten.
            1. Alf
              +12
              25 March 2023 18: 13
              Quote: Sergei Fonov
              Enlighten.

              Wait, he will update the training manual and how he will hit you ...
        2. +5
          25 March 2023 11: 40
          You either put on shorts or change the flag.
          laughing laughing good good
    2. +5
      25 March 2023 21: 08
      Quote: V.
      All free deliveries smell like corruption.



      This is partially cured by barter schemes - instead of money, only tractors and VAZ cars, pharmaceuticals, oil refineries and similar products are given. Inside, this moves jobs, ordinary Africans will also get something useful, and let clever freebie lovers look for a way to profitably sell iron from their hands in local markets - this is how markets for goods are formed ...
  18. +13
    25 March 2023 09: 30
    Calm down, they wrote off our 20 billion, having rolled back some part to our bosses, the West is pressing, times are difficult, new sources of personal income are needed.

    They wouldn't give it back anyway, but at least the best people in the country are in the black. Maybe Prigogine will be thrown something.
  19. +5
    25 March 2023 09: 45
    Of the latter, Nigeria in March bought out 30 percent of the monthly export of Russian gasoline.
    For resale
    Nigeria oil producing country
    1. +6
      25 March 2023 14: 12
      For resale
      Nigeria oil producing country

      For domestic consumption.
      Nigeria is an oil-producing country that is part of OPEC, while having minimal oil refining capacity. Nigeria is a major oil exporter and a major importer of petroleum products.
      There are regular mass protests due to high gasoline prices. They buy gasoline at market prices and sell it to the population below the market. For the budget, these subsidies are a heavy burden. As the movement towards the abolition/reduction of subsidies begins, a riot begins with barricades and Molotov cocktails.
    2. +2
      25 March 2023 15: 04
      They practically have no processing and personnel for refineries, which is why they drive crude oil, and almost all of which is under the Anglo-Saxons.
  20. +13
    25 March 2023 12: 10
    History teaches nothing. Stepping on the old rake again? Like we are white, good and fluffy. Helping oppressed Africa. And, "oppressed" Africa will once again send to ... In parallel, China is acting with completely different methods. And slowly consolidates its position.
  21. +5
    25 March 2023 12: 49
    Yes, they greased another 20 billion in someone's pocket.
    it seems to be the third time the Kremlin writes off large debts to Africa?

    it’s a pity that they never talk about a rollback in our media ... but the Vedas probably know ...
    1. +11
      25 March 2023 14: 37
      But we collect a penny for our children for operations what .
      1. +8
        25 March 2023 16: 31
        And they buy drones, night vision devices and ieplaks at their own expense. Europe and China are making it tougher on those who do not give money and knock out money in various ways.
  22. +6
    25 March 2023 14: 46
    One has to pay for the multipolarity that is now being formed in the world. And it’s good that not from the country’s budget, but by writing off non-refundable funds.

    This maxim clearly illustrates the fact that the author is extremely far from understanding the issue he describes.
    If multipolarity or any other polarity does not bring profit, then no one needs such "polarities" in the world. And only Russia, probably trying to show that it is the legal successor of the USSR, stubbornly continues the "Soviet African policy", which has fundamental differences with the "Western African policy". The USSR in the past and Russia today are "developing cooperation with African countries." Anyone who has worked at least a little in Africa and talked with representatives of the African "politicum" understands that, apart from regular "debt cancellation", such "cooperation" will give nothing more. Well, even with the media it will be possible to highlight "another foreign policy success."
    And the USA, China, Europe, they do not "cooperate with African countries", they "master the African market" in the form that allows them to make a profit.
    Africa is one of the fastest growing markets. Banking and finance, information technology and telecommunications, healthcare and logistics, the real estate sector, the fashion industry, the automotive industry, the insurance industry - this is not a complete list of activities in which US, Chinese, European firms in Africa invest capital and make profits.
    And "cooperation with African countries" is carried out in the West by "specially created structures" such as the World Bank, the IMF and a regional development bank such as the African Development Bank. There, too, the debts of Africa are written off. Huge. But this is a completely different song. Which in Russia cannot be learned in any way.
  23. +11
    25 March 2023 15: 02
    Our "gifted effective managers" will still not wake up, stubbornly following the same abyss as the Union, "buying friends" for loot, stupidly flooding them with loot, categorically believing in the power of their idol - loot. It seems that the upper class, living in a different worldview, has become completely ill with creativity and the intellectual component.
  24. +13
    25 March 2023 17: 02
    and working pensioners, yes, of course they are worse than blacks
  25. +7
    25 March 2023 17: 27
    Africa is the Kremlin's priority and it forgives them everything, it would be better if our population's debts to banks were forgiven, but hucksters will not do that!!
    1. +9
      26 March 2023 09: 48
      These ghouls, stupefied by impunity and permissiveness, even to those who are now fighting, incl. and for their interests, and instead of them, and because of their activities, or rather, inactivity and utter insolvency, mediocrity, even they have not been forgiven a penny and have not written off anything, even the dead will be skinned.
  26. +7
    25 March 2023 20: 10
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote from dunkan
    It is necessary to start about internal programs for raising the standard of living

    Inflation 3,7%. The lowest unemployment rate. And all this in the context of the implementation of the SVO and the most stringent sanctions. Does this not satisfy you? Do you want as in the West - inflation over 10% and crazy unemployment?

    Our dreams will always be ahead of our capabilities, but there is no need to ruin the country for the sake of the dream of lacy panties. You just need to make money on them with your own work, and not wait for manna from heaven from someone else's uncle who promises these panties, and when you believe in it, he will take the last ones off you.

    Are you really .... or are you confused in the noodles?
    We have created a tough fiscal system, and the developed West has it too.
    But, after the creation of such a system in the West, they raised the minimum wage to $ 2 thousand, and the real salary reaches $ 5 thousand, naturally, not all enterprise owners can recklessly increase the number of workers, resulting in unemployment.
    We have 11 thousand minimum wages, the real 50-60 thousand wooden wages, if we compare, then our worker should receive 76.45 exchange rate of the Central Bank x 7000 = 535150 rubles. per month, that's when such a salary will be, then we can talk about unemployment rates. And the wages of slave labor cannot be compared with the work of a free man. And, yes, we want 10% inflation in 20 years, like they have. Remember, after the 1998 denomination. shook a penny. And where is she now? In 1998, 1 kg. copper at the factory, wholesale price, cost 8 rubles, now 1440 rubles. And you still stutter about some 10%.
    1. -2
      26 March 2023 12: 07
      535150 rub. per month
      It's 5.6 thousand pounds. Why, excuse a worker (even a qualified one) to pay that kind of money? In this way, the factories will all go abroad.
    2. 0
      26 March 2023 15: 20
      in the West, they raised the minimum wage, up to $2 thousand
      In which country? In non-poor Monaco, 10.5 euros per hour, if anything.
  27. +14
    25 March 2023 20: 16
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote: V.
    Do you remember what country you live in and what is the political and economic system in our country now?

    We are ending the transitional period from a country-colony to a country-socialism of the Stalinist model (there will be no freebies).

    We have, for your information, state-oligarchic capitalism, which implies a beggarly wage, just not to die, it looks more like late feudalism.
  28. +6
    25 March 2023 20: 18
    Quote: Ryaruav
    and working pensioners, yes, of course they are worse than blacks

    They are slaves for life, their destiny is to somehow feed themselves and pay taxes, the last, this is the main thing.
  29. +1
    25 March 2023 20: 32
    Quote: seacap
    Our "gifted effective managers" will still not wake up, stubbornly following the same abyss as the Union, "buying friends" for loot, stupidly flooding them with loot, categorically believing in the power of their idol - loot. It seems that the upper class, living in a different worldview, has become completely ill with creativity and the intellectual component.

    Did you write down our president as "gifted effective managers"?
  30. +3
    25 March 2023 20: 38
    Quote: SN
    They will recruit, and they will also find fault with the authorities. And their own frivolity seems to have nothing to do with it.

    You, the oligarchs, know better, you have earned billions of dollars in ten years, you are our prudent ones.
  31. SNA
    -4
    25 March 2023 20: 46
    Quote: bandabas
    But we collect a penny for our children for operations what .

    Is that right for you?
    1. 0
      April 1 2023 11: 40
      There are no other people's children (c) Something like that ...
  32. SNA
    0
    25 March 2023 20: 49
    Quote: rotmistr60
    And if you write off those who took a loan in advance without thinking of returning it, then he will immediately take another one, or even two. Isn't it a fat freebie for those who are in the rear?

    But it will be so. There are several such friends.
  33. +6
    25 March 2023 21: 19
    Quote: SN
    Quote: rotmistr60
    And if you write off those who took a loan in advance without thinking of returning it, then he will immediately take another one, or even two. Isn't it a fat freebie for those who are in the rear?

    But it will be so. There are several such friends.

    There is a simple way to fix everything, to prohibit issuing loans, and to pay workers not pennies, but salaries. And the poor bankers will earn as they should on investment projects, and not by squandering, and they will stop suffering here ....
  34. +6
    25 March 2023 21: 22
    The author's arguments are highly controversial. Vague political support from a number of African states in exchange for another write-off of debts + plans to build a nuclear power plant for them at their own expense with unclear prospects for returning funds and making a profit from this. And of course, we cannot do without military bases in Africa ... We really need this (?), There are no unresolved problems in the country, especially in the provinces?!
    And yes, who ultimately pays for everything?
  35. +8
    25 March 2023 21: 27
    The juice itself lies in the fact that ordinary people, hard workers, neither in Africa nor in Russia, did not get a penny from the vast majority of this amount. Almost certainly, part of the "kickbacks" "returned" (at the moment when it stood out or later) to Russia, part will end up in the pockets of African officials, part will settle on the accounts of companies, both state-owned and affiliated with these same African officials (well, you know how it is happens), but a meager share will be spent on the purchase of really necessary funds or equipment ... Like this ...
  36. +9
    25 March 2023 21: 30
    Quote: WFP-1
    The author's arguments are highly controversial. Vague political support from a number of African states in exchange for another write-off of debts + plans to build a nuclear power plant for them at their own expense with unclear prospects for returning funds and making a profit from this. We really need this (?), there are no unresolved problems in the country, especially in the provinces?!
    And yes, who ultimately pays for everything?

    What province are you talking about? Putin is not ......, he learned the lesson of history. Where can there be unrest, Peter and Moscow, what needs to be done to prevent this from happening, to feed these two cities, which is what he is doing. And the province. Yes, at least die there, it doesn’t matter, and it’s not prestigious that a trip to the province gives, zilch. whether it's a summit with blacks, abroad, cool))))
  37. +8
    25 March 2023 23: 27
    Again, everything is at the expense of the peoples of Russia, in the name of hell knows what.
    And to close all debts and mortgages in Russia, and to those who did not take, to give - weakly?
    Why forgive debts, so that those who owe you do not feel gratitude, so that you don’t ask them, or by sticking a knife in our back they say that they don’t owe us anything ?!
    Gift planes and tanks are already fighting against us!
  38. 0
    26 March 2023 09: 31
    I think that PMC Wagner is not in vain there, and moreover, for a long time already. These countries have resources that need to be developed. The Anglo-Saxons, of course, would give interest on these 20 yards and make them their eternal whores and would have them until they were all disembowelled. But as we all know, the USSR approached these issues from a humane side, and Africa remembers this. Now many of our firms work there and will continue to work. Mining will pay for all this and we will not be in the red. It’s a pity that we can’t fill up with consumer goods like China. Until we revive it all, China will already own this market. But the control of the subsoil by ours and the protection of their elite by our PMCs is also not bad for a start. And most importantly, the population of these countries. In the world, 7 billion can trade among themselves and can get rid of that golden billion.
    1. +6
      26 March 2023 12: 02
      Africa remembers it
      An extremely naive approach - the service rendered is worth nothing after it has been rendered. Read a collection of folk tales from around the world Yes and you will find out that if hard work is valued in Asia, justice in Arabia, cunning in Africa.
    2. 0
      April 1 2023 11: 42
      Mining? You mistyped - was the letter G supposed to be there?
  39. +4
    26 March 2023 11: 00
    "The old woman in the park feeds the pigeons,
    Baton crumbling and throwing on the asphalt.
    The man remarked to her - "You have a conscience,
    After all, in Africa, the kids are starving."

    Said he spat, and leaned away.
    The old woman whispered in his back -
    "I help those I can help.
    I won't drop a loaf to Africa." (R)
  40. +4
    26 March 2023 11: 57
    Mozambique can give the creditor a couple of billion?
    Easy. Niobium ore and titanium deposit.
  41. +6
    26 March 2023 12: 36
    and then another and another ... we are waiting for the next increase in food prices
  42. +5
    26 March 2023 13: 46
    Okay - no money and nothing to return.
    But why give them fertilizer for FREE without getting anything in return???
    Distribute these fertilizers to Russian citizens. Free, of course.
    But the authorities of the Russian Federation take care of the Russians, I see, it’s not accepted!
  43. +7
    26 March 2023 14: 40
    In general, our government is not friendly with the head, they go to Africa for free, but they tear three skins from the Russians. There are no words, only mats
  44. +1
    26 March 2023 14: 53
    So now those in power will chip in and cover the hole in the budget. They won't leave a fool. But if the people really want to, then they will cover from their own, with an increase in prices for goods necessary for life.
  45. +1
    26 March 2023 16: 50
    Free again? I also understand debt. They will turn to Uncle Sam tomorrow under any pretext. We have gone through this many times already with Turkey and Egypt. In addition, our farmers are crying that this year they are buying everything at a loss to them. If they do not have money, then there will be no harvest in the future. I think Africans have money, but not all of them live in a primitive communal system.
  46. +6
    26 March 2023 17: 09
    Who do these multi-movers work for?

    Russia's population is dying out, and Africa's population growth is explosive. Since 1998, it has doubled (it was 760 million, it became 1 billion 320 million in 2023). If population growth continues, at nearly the same rate, Africa's total population is expected to exceed 2038 billion by 2.
  47. +3
    26 March 2023 17: 36
    I don't see anything wrong with debt relief. This money can be fully compensated by raising the retirement age.
  48. +2
    26 March 2023 18: 25
    On the face of another step of sabotage to their own people - free (at the expense of the budget of the Russian Federation) grain and credits to chungachguk! When and who will stop the plunder of our country?
  49. +2
    26 March 2023 18: 32
    Quote: Yevgeny Fedorov
    Secondly, no one is seriously considering repaying African debts. Hand on heart, does anyone believe that Mozambique can give a couple of billions to a creditor?

    1. Why was it necessary to give? A smart lender doesn't do that. There is a clear corruption here.
    for $20 billion is:
    25 square meters of schools
    or
    30 km of roads of the 000st category
    Only at the stage of design work, 1 square meter of a school costs 200-600 rubles, and the construction of a square meter of a school itself will require from 60 rubles

    The price of 1 km of the road I category - 52 286 720 rubles. II - 42 rubles. III - 536 rubles. IV - 150 37 109 rubles. V - 230 rubles.

    2. If you are not repaid your debts, you LOSE RESPECT. Next time they will come to your house and take everything they like.
    3. Not returning borrowed money corrupts both the economy and the people.
  50. +2
    26 March 2023 18: 55
    The fact that the ruling elite of the CPSU fed hundreds of billions of food, gas, oil, weapons for decades and supported the regimes in Eastern Europe, Africa, Asia, Cuba - and did not improve the living conditions of their people and, moreover, brought up the darkness of parasite republics inside the country, living at the expense of the exploitation of the peoples of the RSFSR, Belarus - was the reason for the silent rejection of the gossip of the ruling power and, ultimately, the reason for indifference to the scumbags ruining the country. The same Ukraine was not self-sufficient - 7% of its expenses were covered from the income of the RSFSR. Thank God that these parasites seem to have fallen off the feeder, but our government still gives Russophobic parasites (Kyrgyz, Tajiks and others) loans, which they then "restructure", forgive .. That is, they repeat the mistakes of the CPSU. Naturally, we would like our resources to be spent on improving the living conditions of our people. But the authorities again follow the path of the CPSU, again cultivating new parasites, to the detriment of their people. And you can rip off your people - make them earn a pension for 5 years more. And it does not matter that 35-40% of men do not live up to retirement age - they put on a "wooden mac" (an expression of our guarantor)!
  51. +1
    27 March 2023 13: 36
    How, ANOTHER 20 billion was written off? This really isn't the first time this has happened.
    The question is, is the one who issues non-repayable loans from government funds responsible? And are we not issuing them again to those countries that have damaged their credit history? I don’t understand why those simple things that exist in our imperfect life do not apply to interstate relations! Someone always pays, and if you pay, then it should be your big benefit and not “money going down the drain.”
    At one time, Lawrence of Arabia said something like “An Arab cannot be bought but can be rented.” The logic is similar with African countries (for the most part) - they can be rented, but one must understand that tomorrow they will sell themselves to someone else if they offer more. And our bases and interests may find themselves in a very specific position. Therefore, relations with most third world countries should be as logical as possible - we must understand that we can do much more unpleasant things for them (at a cumulative cost of greater funds) if they trick their ears, or issue loans in cases where we clearly understand and discuss in advance what will be charged in case of non-return.
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  53. 0
    28 March 2023 22: 22
    So they donated not money to Russia, but money from the USSR. And I don’t feel sorry for them.
  54. +1
    30 March 2023 15: 28
    Well, let’s say Russia denies Mozambique a non-repayable loan, so what? The silent anger of Mozambique, like the anger of other African countries, is only a drop in the ocean, which Russia is now experiencing de facto alone against NATO. But if you don’t give a loan, you get the opportunity to invest these billions in more important matters within the country.
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  57. -1
    April 2 2023 19: 19
    Quote: Kasatik
    There is no such "authorized person" who has the right to write off the public debt. You do not confuse your wool with the state!

    There is such a person, specially chosen. And there are also a certain number of specially appointed people who submit proposals and analysis. Well, it’s not possible to hold a referendum on every little thing.
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