Australia continues to "amuse" with options for the development of the submarine fleet

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Australia continues to "amuse" with options for the development of the submarine fleet

Due to the fact that the commissioning of the first Virginia submarines (if it happens at all) is expected sometime in the early 2030s, the possibility of re-equipping the Collins submarines to use the Tomahawk CRBD is being discussed. Australia continues to "cheer" ...

The boats are no longer very new, besides, they are unsuccessful in design. Spending still very large sums on their rearmament does not seem very reasonable. These boats were problematic even at the tender and design stage. Already at the conclusion of the contract, there were well-founded accusations of bias and corruption, since the tender was won by a not very well-known Swedish company, leaving behind eminent competitors from Germany, France, England, etc.

During the construction process, scandals also periodically occurred during the assembly of buildings and the installation of equipment. Immediately after the start of operation, it turned out that the boats were very noisy and the technical reliability was low. It took very serious and expensive alterations. Then there were considerable expenses in arming these submarines with the American Harpoon anti-ship missiles.

And now, the Australians set out to spend even more considerable sums on the re-equipment of these boats, especially since they themselves simply do not need submarines with CRBD. The US needs them to create additional problems for China. Since Tomahawks will be able to fly to China from areas located north of Australia. But why is it for the Australians? ..

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  1. +2
    March 21 2023
    Kangaroos do not understand: that China, that the Russian Federation should respond to this threat by adding the Australian Navy to the list of targets for nuclear weapons.
    1. +6
      March 21 2023
      But mattress covers are well aware: more targets outside of North America - fewer will fly to American cities
      1. -11
        March 21 2023
        And bast shoes (two posts above) do not understand this. Until now, they consider themselves the smartest and count on a nuclear club, naively believing that after its use they will not fly back.

        Py. Sy. I wonder, according to what kind of logic, the word bast shoes, on this site, is automatically replaced by khokhlopiteki? You have to write through the English "a". Rave...
  2. +4
    March 21 2023
    Kangaroos seek to not be forgotten in the event of a nuclear war
    1. +2
      March 21 2023
      When Australia was a British colony, the British themselves, who lived on their island, considered the English who moved to Australia to be inferior people. After all, a significant part of white Australians are the descendants of criminals, outcasts. As, however, a significant number of US citizens, the so-called WASP. With the right mentality. You can't pick out genes with your finger.
  3. +4
    March 21 2023
    The answer is in the article itself! The Americans need it, and the Australians, accordingly, need it, even if they don't. Wow, how twisted! But, the meaning is probably clear.
    1. +2
      March 21 2023
      Kangaroos are very afraid of increasing the military power and strength of the Chinese army, so they will take appropriate steps.
      1. +2
        March 21 2023
        And they are not afraid of Indonesia? A huge state, with a population of over 200 million.
        1. +1
          March 21 2023
          Indonesia to a lesser extent, the technique is weaker than that of China.
        2. -1
          March 21 2023
          Quote: Sergej1972
          And they are not afraid of Indonesia? A huge state, with a population of over 200 million.

          Only as a source of illegal migrants, nothing more...
      2. 0
        March 21 2023
        For them, China was one of the main trading partners, until they started doing bullshit.
  4. +1
    March 21 2023
    So Sunak agreed with Bidon that the British would build 3-4 nuclear submarines for Australia.
    1. +2
      March 21 2023
      So Sunak agreed with Bidon that the British would build 3-4 nuclear submarines for Australia.
      Now the question is who will pay for this entire "banquet" .....
      1. +5
        March 21 2023
        Don’t go to your grandmother here - the French! lol Shame, so shame.
      2. 0
        March 21 2023
        To agree - then they agreed))) only from conversations the production capacities of the shipyards will not increase. The British have one shipyard that assembles nuclear submarines and it is loaded with work for 30 years ahead)))
    2. 0
      March 21 2023
      The United States is creating AUCUS to restore its industry, not Britain's. In addition, it is the internal problems of the United States that they are trying to overcome in this way. In this sense, the British are also competitors (and have been recognized as such for a long, long time). Nominally, the KVB contributes its VS to AUCUS, but such rhetoric can only deceive reporters, not even editors-in-chief. Investments in weapons determine who feeds the girl. The Kingdom is no longer a cake, but only icing. In the sense that the "Five Eyes" still represent a consolidated position of their elite, not like in DC.
      1. 0
        July 1 2023
        So far, they haven't created anything. Shipbuilding (ship repair) capacity, at the same level as it was. And to expect their increase, judging by the report to Congress, it will take another 10 years.
    3. 0
      March 21 2023
      Quote: tralflot1832
      So Sunak agreed with Bidon that the British would build 3-4 nuclear submarines for Australia.

      A. The US branch in the British Isles has managed to build only four nuclear submarines with Tridents leased from the Yankees. And then 3-4 pieces. Sounds very menacing. By the way, we also rented Nerpa. No, not to the Chinese. Hindus. My heart feels this Nerpa and the Australians are afraid
  5. +1
    March 21 2023
    Kangaroos knocked on their heads - they are bored there on the other side of the planet
  6. +1
    March 21 2023
    the possibility of re-equipping the Collins submarines for the use of the Tomahawk CRBD is being discussed. Australia continues to "cheer".

    And what did the author find "fun"?
    Tomahawks were originally made universal in terms of carriers, including standard torpedo tubes. Retrofitting equipment for preparation and launch is not such an impossible or expensive task.
    The boats have long been planned to be modernized to extend their service life, especially since they are not so old, and as part of this modernization, to equip them with Tomahawks. The boats will be in service until 2040.
    Six Collins-class submarines were built at the ASC shipyard in Osborne (South Australia) according to a modified design of the Swedish diesel-electric submarines of the Type-471 class (also known as Västergötland). They were commissioned between 1996 and 2003. The LOTE program is designed to upgrade the platform and combat systems to extend the 30-year service life of each boat by another ten years.
    1. -1
      March 21 2023
      The oldest boat is already 26 years old, and they were built for 6-8 years. While they were standing on the slipway, the fatigue of the metal did not go away))) by the time the modernization is over, "Collins" may already be under 30 and will be safely written off)))
      1. +1
        March 21 2023
        Quote: TermNachTER
        The oldest boat is already 26 years old, and they were built for 6-8 years. While they were standing on the slipway, the fatigue of the metal did not go away))) by the time the modernization is over, "Collins" may already be under 30 and will be safely written off)))

        Right way, comrades! smile
        Putting the ship in overhaul / modernization and decommissioning immediately upon exit - there is something painfully familiar in this. smile True, individual copies were "lucky" to be decommissioned without even leaving the repair.
  7. 0
    March 21 2023
    Quote: forty-eighth
    But mattress covers are well aware: more targets outside of North America - fewer will fly to American cities

    Therefore, GDP announced the suspension of Russia's participation in START-3
  8. +1
    March 21 2023
    Quote: Letun
    And bast shoes (two posts above) do not understand this. Until now, they consider themselves the smartest and count on a nuclear club, naively believing that after its use they will not fly back.

    Py. Sy. I wonder, according to what kind of logic, the word bast shoes, on this site, is automatically replaced by khokhlopiteki? You have to write through the English "a". Rave...

    The doctrine of the Russian Federation on the use of strategic nuclear weapons assumes a Counter Nuclear Strike. If changes follow and the concept "At the Appointed Time" is approved, then only at the request of the staff of the CISO.
    1. +1
      March 21 2023
      Ezekiel 25-17 (Andrew)

      The doctrine of the Russian Federation on the use of strategic nuclear weapons assumes a Counter Nuclear Strike

      It hasn't been like that for eight years now.
      “The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use against it and (or) its allies of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction, as well as in case of aggression against the Russian Federation using conventional weaponswhen the very existence of the state is threatened. The decision to use nuclear weapons is made by the President of the Russian Federation.”
  9. 0
    March 21 2023
    Well, let them spend their own, Australian, money. What difference does it make to us.
  10. 0
    March 21 2023
    And what to expect from the six, the meaning of her life is six, she doesn’t know how to do anything else, the same with Canada. The owner cannot be offended by independence. The owner will tell you to jump out of the window, and she will jump out. The Americans have a lot of such brainless spice (resources), and the police will pacify the rebellious people.
  11. 0
    March 21 2023
    What nonsense on the ears.
    If a new NWO can arise near the borders of Austria, then of course Australia will not sit idly by. The only question is what to buy specifically.
    More or less ready, for training, so that there is enough money.
    Here are the options.

    We still cannot offer our submarines and nuclear submarines to her. Few by ourselves.
  12. 0
    March 21 2023
    Last Saturday, a rally and march in Melbourne for the freedom of Asange, against American boats, against AUCUS. There were about 200 people.
    1. 0
      March 22 2023
      All immigrants from Russia living in Australia gathered. wassat
  13. 0
    March 21 2023
    The owner decided - in the event of a big mess, the Australians are obliged to die for the owner. The opinion of the citizens of Australia is not interesting either to the government of this country, or to the owner, the real one, in the USA,
    1. -3
      March 21 2023
      In the same way, the master of Russia is not interested in how many soldiers and civilians will die in a real conflict.
    2. 0
      March 21 2023
      Given that the main population is located on the east and west coasts, then those who live in the middle have certain chances)))
  14. 0
    March 21 2023
    Once upon a time, Australia considered itself the only country that would survive the nuclear apocalypse, and would choose which of the refugees can be accepted. Now, apparently, being the target of a nuclear missile is more profitable.
  15. 0
    March 21 2023
    Well, Australia, England, the USA, Canada and a number of other countries that are part of the Commonwealth nation are, in fact, one state.
  16. 0
    March 21 2023
    kangaroos don’t understand that World War II hit them with the tip of their tail, but the war with China will scratch their heads off and we will only be happy about this, although we love kangaroos very much
  17. 0
    March 22 2023
    Due to the fact that the first commissioning of the Virginia submarine (if it happens at all) is expected somewhere in the early 2030s


    Don't understand here?
    Submarines of the "Virginia" type have been in service since 2004, 22 of them have already been built.

    The US needs them to create additional problems for China. Since Tomahawks will be able to fly to China from areas located north of Australia. But why is it for the Australians? ..


    https://rossaprimavera.ru/news/d0b42d83
    Australia has made no promises to the United States that it will support it in a conflict with China over Taiwan in exchange for US nuclear submarines, Australian Defense Secretary Richard Marles said on March 21, Military.com reports.
    "Absolutely not, and I couldn't be more unambiguous," Marles said.
    1. -1
      March 23 2023
      Is it really so difficult to understand that we are talking about "virginia" for Australia?)))
  18. 0
    March 29 2023
    Quote: TermNachTER
    The oldest boat is already 26 years old, and they were built for 6-8 years. While they were standing on the slipway, the fatigue of the metal did not go away)))

    The author does not write about something that you don’t understand a damn thing, not only is the article frankly weak, but also such pseudo-technical statements .... Do not disgrace yourself.
    1. 0
      April 3 2023
      I’m thinking of specifying yours, please)) very vaguely)))

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