Western aviation weapons for Soviet-made Ukrainian combat aircraft

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Western aviation weapons for Soviet-made Ukrainian combat aircraft

Recently it became known that in addition to AGM-88 HARM anti-radar missiles, the United States plans to transfer AIM-120 AMRAAM long-range air-to-air missiles and JDAM-ER guided bombs to Ukraine. Today we'll talk about what it is weaponhow it can be adapted to Ukrainian fighters, and what impact it can have on the course of hostilities. The state of the Ukrainian combat aviation and its perspectives.

Combat aviation of Ukraine and its prospects


According to information published by The Military Balance 2022, the Ukrainian Air Force had: 14 Su-24M front-line bombers, 31 Su-25 attack aircraft, 34 Su-27 heavy fighters and 36 MiG-29 front-line fighters. The World Air Forces 2022 guide published by the British aviation magazine Flight International states that in 2022 Ukraine had: 12 Su-24s, 17 Su-25s, 32 Su-27s and 36 MiG-29s.



The discrepancies in these two very authoritative sources are explained by the fact that it is very difficult to judge the number of aircraft actually in flight condition. According to expert estimates, the share of technically serviceable fighters in the Air Force of Ukraine has never exceeded 70%. In addition, in Ukraine, there were still about 200 aircraft at storage bases and aircraft repair enterprises, of which about a third could be “raised on the wing”, and a significant part of the remaining ones could be used as a source of spare parts.


Ukrainian Su-24Ms in storage

Until February 2022, some of the Ukrainian combat aircraft were modernized and overhauled. For example, the Nikolaev Aircraft Repair Plant extended the service life of several Su-24M bombers and a Su-24MR reconnaissance aircraft.


In total, from 2014 to 2021, four Su-24M bombers and three Su-24MR reconnaissance aircraft went through the refurbishment program. Modernized aircraft are distinguished by "pixel" coloring.

Judging by satellite images, at least 40 Su-24M aircraft were located at the storage bases in Bila Tserkva and in Lutsk.


Satellite image of Google Earth: Su-24M front-line bombers and MiG-29 fighter at the Belaya Tserkov airfield

There is reason to believe that since the start of full-scale hostilities, the Ukrainian air forces have recovered approximately ten front-line bombers from storage.

Since 2010, the repair and modernization of Ukrainian Su-25 attack aircraft has been carried out at the MiGremont Zaporozhye Aircraft Repair Plant. At the same time, the Su-25s were brought up to the level of the Su-25M1, and the two-seater Su-25UBs, after modernization combined with a major overhaul, became known as the Su-25UBM1.


Ukrainian Su-25s during repair and modernization at the Zaporizhzhya ArZ "MiGremont"

Modernized Ukrainian attack aircraft received new communication and navigation equipment. The most important innovation that affected the combat effectiveness was the replacement of the analog sight computer with a digital one developed by the Ukrainian company Orion-Navigation. According to the developer, this increased the accuracy of the use of weapons by 30%.


Ukrainian attack aircraft Su-25M1

According to information available in open sources, Ukraine has upgraded at least 20 single and double attack aircraft. A number of sources claim that in addition to the Su-25s in service in 2022, another 6-8 aircraft could be reanimated from storage bases.

MiG-29 fighters are still the most common type of combat aircraft in the Ukrainian Air Force. Part of the Soviet-built front-line fighters was overhauled and partially modernized. The Lvov Aircraft Repair Plant handed over the first batch of three upgraded MiG-29MU1 fighters to the customer in 2011.

The upgraded MiG-29MU1s are easy to distinguish from the original aircraft by their "pixelated" coloration. In addition to work on extending the resource, new means of navigation and communication were installed that meet ICAO requirements. Thanks to the renewal of the element base and the introduction of new components, the detection range of air targets was increased by about 20% and the operational reliability of on-board radio-electronic equipment was improved. It is stated that combat effectiveness has increased when performing interception due to the use of advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles.


Ukrainian fighter MiG-29MU1

29 machines were converted into fighters of the MiG-1MU10 modification, two more aircraft were brought to the level of the MiG-29MU2. Of the twelve modernized MiGs, two were in flight accidents, and the degree of their combat readiness as of February 24, 2022 is not known.


Satellite image of Google Earth: aircraft on the territory of the Lviv Aircraft Repair Plant

In total, about 2021 Ukrainian MiG-40s passed through the Lviv Aircraft Repair Plant until the end of 29. But due to lack of funding, not all fighters were modernized, most were repaired without significant intervention in the avionics.


Satellite image of Google Earth: MiG-29 fighters at the Ivano-Frankivsk airfield

Western sources claim that approximately 70 Ukrainian MiG-29 fighters could be stored in the open air and in closed hangars. There were at least 30 of them at the Ivano-Frankivsk airfield alone. Some of the MiGs that were in storage were put into operation in 2022, while others were used as donors of spare parts.

By the time the SVO began, the Ukrainian Air Force had only a few fewer Su-27 heavy fighters than light MiG-29s. But, unlike the MiG-29, there were few Su-27s suitable for restoration in storage.

Modernization of the Su-27 began in 2010, and the first modernized and overhauled Su-27S1M was handed over to the Air Force in 2012.


Ukrainian fighter Su-27S1M

According to unconfirmed reports, at the end of 2021, the Ukrainian Air Force had six repaired and partially modernized single and double: Su-27P1M, Su-27S1M and Su-27UBM1. As for the modernization itself, it was "small". The combat capabilities of the modernized Ukrainian Su-27S1M and Su-27P1M have not changed much for the better, and they are significantly inferior in their capabilities not only to the new Su-30SM and Su-35S fighters, but also to the modernized Russian Soviet-built Su-27SM fighter.

Even before the start of the active phase of the conflict, the Ukrainian authorities received fairly accurate information about the date and possible scenario of the NWO, after which most of the Ukrainian combat aircraft were relocated to alternate airfields or sheltered in solid concrete hangars. Damage inflicted by Russian aviation and cruise missiles on the ground infrastructure of Ukrainian air bases and runways was in most cases not critical, which allowed them to be used further after the repair of the runway.
If you believe the statements of the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, then Ukrainian military aviation has already been destroyed several times. At the same time, there is no exact data on the losses of the parties, but according to the available photographs and video footage, it can be argued that the Air Force of Ukraine on the ground and in the air lost at least 14 Su-24M, at least 18 Su-25, at least 14 Su-27 and at least 20 MiG-29s.


Consequences of a Russian missile attack on the Su-2M storage base in Bila Tserkva

The indicated volumes of Ukrainian aviation losses did not include aircraft destroyed at storage bases. Although at the time of destruction, these non-flying vehicles were not capable of performing a combat mission, nevertheless, strikes against them made sense, since some of the surviving front-line bombers, attack aircraft and fighters could later be restored or used as a source of spare parts. This is confirmed by the commissioning of MiG-29 fighters belonging to the Ukrainian Falcons aerobatic team, which were stored for a long time, which became possible after the supply of spare parts from an unnamed country.


Ukrainian Su-27, which flew to the Romanian airfield, after the start of the NWO

At least one Ukrainian Su-27 with missiles slung over flew to Romania after failing to land on its airfield, the runway of which was bombed. This fighter returned back a few days after the start of hostilities.

Despite serious losses, the Ukrainian Air Force is still active. According to expert estimates, there may be 6–8 Su-24Ms, 8–10 Su-25s, 12–16 Su-27s, and up to 20 MiG-29s in service. Russian missile attacks on the bases and the superiority of the Russian Aerospace Forces in terms of numbers and quality did not allow stopping the actions of Ukrainian military aviation. It should be noted that Ukrainian pilots, as a rule, are guided by common sense and after the stabilization of the line of contact, if possible, avoid engaging in air combat with Russian fighters. In addition to carrying out surprise missile and bomb strikes on the front line, Ukrainian fighters are trying to intercept Russian cruise missiles and drones. However, such attempts do not always end well.

The case when the Ukrainian MiG-29 collided in the air with drone-kamikaze "Geran-2" when trying to intercept it. Due to the flight data, the characteristics of the avionics and the armament of the MiG-29, an unmanned vehicle with a wingspan of 2,5 m and a maximum flight speed of no more than 180 km / h is a very difficult target for the MiG pilot. It is very difficult to detect such a low-flying target against the background of the ground with an airborne radar, given that the piston engine of a drone does not emit as much heat as turbojet engines, there is little sense from the OLS, and the pilot is forced to search for the target mainly visually.

It is not rational to spend expensive air combat missiles, which Ukrainians do not have so many, on mopeds, and therefore they usually try to shoot a drone from an onboard 30-mm cannon. However, this is not very easy to do. There is very little time left for aiming, because of the large difference in speeds, the fighter quickly jumps forward, after which it must again detect the target and build a new approach to it. Moreover, we are talking about low altitudes, where any piloting error can be fatal. It is not surprising that one of the Ukrainian pilots, not calculating the speed of approach, crashed into a "flying bomb" with his MiG-29 and was forced to eject.

Combat aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, lost in air battles, as a result of Russian missile strikes on airfields and in flight accidents, were partially compensated by being raised from storage. However, it should be understood that the stock bases were mainly sent to cars with a depleted resource or those that did not carry out mandatory routine maintenance and repairs required by flying hours. The reliability of such aircraft is much lower than that of those that have undergone all routine maintenance, repairs and modernization.

In addition, intensive operation, worse than in peacetime, maintenance and repair capabilities and a shortage of spare parts negatively affect the level of combat readiness, which, apparently, does not exceed 50% of the aircraft fleet. On airplanes that are not operated according to peacetime standards, and are allowed to fly according to their technical condition, there is a very high risk of failure of various units and destruction of critical components, which is fraught with emergency situations.

Shortly after the start of the JMD, the Ukrainian leadership began bombarding Western governments with requests for combat aircraft. This has not yet happened, however, Poland provided its territory for the repair of Ukrainian combat aircraft and transferred spare parts.

A number of foreign media claims that a decision has been made to transfer MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine, which are in service with NATO countries that were previously members of the Warsaw Pact.

Recently it became known that Slovakia and Poland will supply their aircraft to Ukraine. In the past, these countries have overhauled and upgraded their MiGs. So, in the early 1990s, in addition to the nine fighters inherited from the division of military property with the Czech Republic, Slovakia received another 12 single-seat MiG-29A and 2 combat training MiG-29UB against the Russian debt. In 2004, Slovakia signed a contract with RAC MiG for the modernization of these fighters. At the beginning of 2022, the Polish Air Force had more than twenty MiG-29A and MiG-29UB, some of which went through major overhaul and modernization.

The 16 MiG-29A and MiG-29UB of the Bulgarian Air Force should also be taken into account. But of the Bulgarian aircraft, no more than 5 units are in flight condition, about the same number can be reanimated after repair in the factory.

Even if half of the Slovak, Polish and Bulgarian MiGs are capable of going into battle, the components and assemblies of ground-attached aircraft can be used to ensure the vital activity of front-line fighters. Thus, the Air Force of Ukraine within a short period of time can significantly increase the number of fighter fleet and solve the problem of providing spare parts for some time.

It is no secret that Western emissaries are trying to buy for Ukraine equipment and weapons of Soviet and Russian production around the world. This also applies to combat aircraft.

Su-24M front-line bombers were not widely exported, and therefore they remained in service or are stored in countries that are friendly or neutral with respect to Russia, and there is no need to fear that they will end up in Ukraine.

Su-25 attack aircraft are available in some republics that were part of the USSR, in the past they were also actively purchased by third world countries, on whose territory there were internecine conflicts or there were territorial disputes with neighbors. According to reference data, Su-25s are in service in 15 states, but in some African countries there are only 2-4 of them. It is extremely unlikely that Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan or Peru will sell their 8-10 attack aircraft. The exceptions are countries such as Bulgaria, which had 14 attack aircraft, and Iraq, which had 18 Su-25s.

Heavy Su-27 fighters have not received much distribution abroad. According to reference data, in Africa they are found in Angola, Ethiopia and Eritrea. In Asia in Vietnam, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and China. The likelihood that any of these countries will transfer the Su-27 to Ukraine is minimal. There are two flying Su-27s in the USA. Sources claim that these aircraft belonged to the Ukrainian Air Force in the past.

MiG-29 light fighters of various modifications are in service in approximately 30 countries in Asia, Africa and South America. In total, there are approximately 250 fighters in operation or in storage. Despite the fact that some owners of the MiG-29 are clearly not friendly towards our country, it cannot be ruled out that some countries will exchange their MiGs for Western-made aircraft or simply sell them. There are also MiG-29s in the United States, fighters of this type were purchased in Moldova, Ukraine and Eastern European countries.

In addition to the transfer of combat aircraft of Soviet or Russian production by third countries, this year we can expect the appearance of fighters built in the West in the Ukrainian Air Force. Most likely, these will be used F-16C / D Block 50/52 modifications, taken from the presence of the US Air Force or in one of the NATO countries. It is authentically known that a group of Ukrainian pilots arrived in the United States for retraining on American fighters. According to representatives of the US military department, it may take six months for Ukrainians to fully master the F-16C/D.

Armament of Ukrainian military aviation, features of its use, prospects for obtaining Western bombs and missiles


The arsenal of Ukrainian combat aircraft has not changed much compared to Soviet times. For work on the ground, as a rule, unguided aircraft weapons are used: 57, 80, 122 and 340-mm NAR, as well as 100, 250, 500 and 1-kg free-falling bombs and cluster bombs.


Guided missiles Kh-25, Kh-29, Kh-58, Kh-59, S-25L and guided bombs KAB-500 and KAB-1500 with laser, television and radar guidance were rarely used. Precision bombs and missiles, fired in the Soviet era, are now far beyond the lines of guaranteed storage, and their maintenance and repair in Ukraine was almost not done. In addition, the Ukrainian Air Force had very few pilots skilled in the use of air-to-ground guided weapons and weapons technicians capable of preparing guided weapons designed to destroy ground targets.

At the same time, the Ukrainian Air Force has a certain stock of operational guided air-to-air missiles: R-60, R-73 and R-27. Moreover, a program for the modernization of air combat missiles was adopted in Ukraine, which was partially implemented.


Rockets R-27 and R-73 under the wing of the MiG-29

Since 1983, the Ukrainian state company "Artem" (in Soviet times, the Kiev Production Association named after Artem) has been producing R-27 medium-range missiles with various homing heads, which were part of the armament of the MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters. R-27 missiles were exported after 1991, and the missiles that were available in Russia and other CIS countries were also serviced.

For the upgraded MiG-29MU1/MU2 and Su-27P1M/S1M fighters, the R-27ER1 and R-27ET1 missiles improved compared to the original Soviet modifications with an increased hit probability, capture and firing range have been created. However, the planned modernization of the existing R-73 melee missiles was not implemented.


Su-27 with R-73 melee and R-27 medium-range missiles

In general, missiles of the R-27 family, created in the USSR for 4th generation fighters, were not bad for their time and ensured the interception of a wide range of air targets at short and medium range. The original UR R-27R with a semi-active radar seeker had a firing range from 0,5 to 60 km (when attacking a target flying towards). The R-27T missile with IR seeker could hit large low-maneuverable targets at ranges up to 50 km. The improved R-27ET and R-27ER could attack the enemy on a head-on course at a distance of up to 90 and up to 95 km, respectively. However, the effective firing range of heat-seeking missiles was many times less, and for the successful use of medium-range missiles with a semi-active radar seeker, it was necessary to illuminate the target with the fighter's airborne radar until the missile hit.

Thus, Russian Su-35S fighters, with more far-sighted and noise-resistant radar, high-speed SUV and armed with long-range R-77 missiles, have a significant advantage over Ukrainian MiGs and Sushki. The disadvantage of air-to-air missiles with a semi-active radar seeker is that for their guidance it is necessary to illuminate the target with an airborne radar, and in a fighter duel with other things being equal, the one who is armed with missiles that do not require continuous illumination will have an advantage.

The new Russian R-77 missiles, unlike the Soviet R-27 with semi-active radar guidance, operate on a fire-and-forget basis. After launching a long-range missile, the Su-35S pilot can turn off or turn off the radar. Taking advantage of this opportunity, the Russian Su-35S pilots, after launching a missile, perform an evasive maneuver and break the distance, laying down on the return course under the protection of their air defense, preventing the Ukrainian fighter from approaching for a possible retaliatory launch of the old R-27 with semi-active guidance.

At the same time, firing the R-77 with the AR GOS at a small-sized maneuverable target does not guarantee its 100% defeat. The active radar homing head of the missile is not able to see the target at the same distance as the Russian H035 Irbis radar with PFAR. According to open sources, the AR GOS UR R-77 is capable of capturing a target with an RCS of 5 m² at a distance of 16 km, and before that, in the absence of external guidance, the missile flies in inertial mode to the lead point in accordance with the pre-set parameters of the attacked object.

The compact and low-power radar UR R-77, squeezed into a body with a diameter of 200 mm, cannot be compared with the powerful radar of the Su-35S fighter and cannot capture a target at a long distance. If an enemy aircraft maneuvered and did not end up in a given area, then the active radar homing head of the missile simply will not find it.

After the target is taken for tracking by the Su-35S airborne radar and the R-77 is launched on it, a radar exposure alert is triggered in the cockpit of the attacked Ukrainian aircraft, and the enemy aircraft, simultaneously with dropping the metal foil, performs an intensive evasive maneuver with low altitude.

In most cases, in order not to be exposed to enemy air defense, the Russian fighter, after launching a missile, turns away from the line of contact, the enemy aircraft “falls out” of the Su-35S radar’s field of view, and the pilot usually does not observe the results of firing. As confirmation of victory, Russian pilots often refer to ground-based radar data, but this does not prove anything. Ukrainian pilots, turning on the opposite course, try to hide behind the terrain - hills, trees, heaps, and such a quickly "diving" under the radio horizon of the ground-based radar is recorded in the reports as "a target that disappeared from the radar screen."

Nevertheless, Russian R-77 missiles with a maximum range of 110 km are perceived as a real threat, and even if they do not shoot down a Ukrainian aircraft, they force the enemy pilot to stop performing a combat mission.

In order to somehow compensate for the dominance of Russian fighters, the Ukrainian military requested the US AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles, which, like the R-77 UR, have an active radar guidance system. The AIM-120 missiles available in the warehouses of the US Air Force, depending on the modification, have a firing range of 70–120 km.


Air-to-air missile AIM-120 AMRAAM

However, there are reasonable doubts that the existing fighters of the Ukrainian Air Force will be able to fully realize the full potential of American missiles. The H010 Zhuk radar, installed since 1986 on the MiG-29, is capable of detecting a target with an RCS of 5 m² at a distance of up to 80 km. In addition, it is not clear how the American AIM-120 missiles will interface with the fire control system of fighters built in the USSR. In preparation for use, the AIM-120 must receive information from the fighter's radar prior to launch and during the flight of the missile. The fire control system downloads target data before launch, and after launch, the missile can receive updated information using the aircraft's onboard data link.

However, Ukrainian pilots already have some experience in using Western aircraft missiles. We are talking about AGM-88 HARM anti-radar missiles, designed to counter surveillance ground and sea radars, as well as anti-aircraft missile guidance stations. The urgent need for these missiles arose after the front line stabilized, and Ukrainian military aviation began to suffer painful losses from Russian air defense systems with radar or radio command guidance. According to unconfirmed reports, Ukrainians tried to use American-made PRRs against Russian electronic warfare stations.


Rocket X-58 in the Museum of the Air Force of Ukraine

Apparently, the X-58 missiles inherited by Ukraine after the division of the Soviet military legacy were “rotten” or turned out to be ineffective.

The problem of suspension of AGM-88 missiles on the MiG-29 and Su-27 was solved by introducing an adapter pylon, which ensures the compatibility of the standard launcher APU-470, designed for air combat missiles R-27, with the American launcher LAU-118 / A .


Data on the characteristics of the target that is planned to be struck are entered in advance on the ground, and they can also be entered in flight using a special tablet in the pilot's office. With this method of entering information, there is no need for integration with the on-board systems of the fighter.


Ukrainian Su-27 with AGM-88 HARM missiles

Ukrainian fighters carry out the use of Kharm missiles on previously identified sources of radio emission, with a launch on a known target location area with previously entered coordinates. Shooting is carried out with the activation of the passive radar homing missile to search for and capture the target after launch, which also provides the maximum firing range.

The next package of military assistance provided to Ukraine by Western countries, in addition to armored vehicles, air defense systems and artillery ammunition, included JDAM-ER adjustable glide bombs, which, after being dropped, can accurately hit targets at a great distance.


JDAM-ER bomb in flight configuration

The purpose of creating JDAM kits (eng. Joint Direct Attack Munition - high-precision planning bombs) was to turn conventional free-falling bombs into high-precision adjustable ones. For this, a removable set of equipment is used, consisting of wings and a tail block, which has a controlled plumage, which allows the bomb to maneuver. Management after separation from the carrier is carried out by an integrated inertial guidance system, paired with a GPS receiver with improved accuracy.

From the first versions of JDAM, the JDAM-ER kits (English Extended Range - increased range) differ in a module with a wing mounted on the bomb body. After being dropped from the carrier, the wing opens and provides a gliding flight to the target, thereby increasing the range.

JDAM-ER kits can be mounted on 500, 1 and 000 lb (2, 000 and 227 kg) unguided bombs. When released, the bomb's wings expand, which, according to Boeing's promotional materials, allows it to fly more than 445 km. According to the results of the combat use of JDAM bombs, the deviation from the aiming point does not exceed 908 m.

Given the current size of the Ukrainian Air Force, the supply of modern Western aviation ammunition is not able to have a decisive influence on the course of hostilities. However, as you know, quantity is quality in itself, and a significant increase in the fleet of Ukrainian combat aircraft equipped with advanced weapons systems may turn out to be very unpleasant for us.
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  1. +8
    21 March 2023 04: 16
    JDAM-ER kits can be mounted on 500, 1 and 000 lb (2, 000 and 227 kg) unguided bombs. When released, the bomb's wings expand, which, according to Boeing's promotional materials, allows it to fly more than 445 km. According to the results of the combat use of JDAM bombs, the deviation from the aiming point does not exceed 908 m.

    It turns out that Ukrainian aviation will receive ammunition with a range greater than the GMLRS missiles currently used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine as part of HIMARS. sad
    1. +8
      21 March 2023 05: 53
      A good article with a detailed analysis. Today, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there are only 5 fighter brigades (what number in units is a question), 2 brigades on the Su-27 and 3 brigades on the MiG-29. These are quite significant forces. Deliveries of new weapons and missiles can will create problems for our Aerospace Forces and Air Defense. Especially during the offensive, when the intensity of hostilities is high.
      1. +7
        21 March 2023 06: 24
        Good article with detailed analysis

        Yes, this is more of a memorandum for the commander of the VKS Surovikin. Let him expel his staff officers to storm Artemovsk, all the same, they are of no use, and you yourself need to think about the service discrepancy. Lose air superiority and fight like the first world war, only with some nuances.
        1. 0
          21 March 2023 07: 21
          Ours should think about gaining air superiority over Ukraine ... every day the cost of such an operation will increase. But without superiority, it is difficult to count on breakthroughs on the ground. what
          1. +4
            22 March 2023 02: 27
            Quote: Civil
            Ours should think about gaining air superiority over Ukraine ...

            Before setting any goals, it is worth considering how feasible they are.
        2. -2
          21 March 2023 19: 36
          ..someone said that ... the war is a continuation of politics by other methods ... so what are your complaints about Severe ??? .. if our soldiers' hands are tied by politics from the Kremlin .. what do you want from them .. they , by the way, service people, which means bonded .. I summarize - when it will be like in 1941 .. The enemy will be defeated .. Victory will be ours .. kill the German .. how many times you meet so many and kill .. then there will be a warrior (and not muddy SVO) but in war all means are good .. and our VKS will immediately conquer the Sky .. and our Airborne Forces will not storm the areas in the forehead, but for what they are .. uncle Vasya sharpened (yeah, vertical coverage) and the marines will finally take Odessa and ... but for this you need a POLYETIC solution .. alas, there is none .. something like this
    2. +1
      21 March 2023 12: 48
      Quote: Tucan
      JDAM-ER kits can be mounted on 500, 1 and 000 lb (2, 000 and 227 kg) unguided bombs. When released, the bomb's wings expand, which, according to Boeing's promotional materials, allows it to fly more than 445 km. According to the results of the combat use of JDAM bombs, the deviation from the aiming point does not exceed 908 m.

      It turns out that Ukrainian aviation will receive ammunition with a range greater than the GMLRS missiles currently used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine as part of HIMARS. sad

      No. GMLRS missiles currently used by the APU as part of HIMARS fly at 120-150 km. JDAM-ER at 75 km when launched from a high altitude.
      1. +5
        21 March 2023 13: 42
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        The GMLRS missiles currently used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine as part of HIMARS fly 120-150 km.

        I will not quote enemy sources, here is what Mikhail Khodarenok writes in Gazeta.Ru, and I have no reason not to trust him:
        The GMLRS (Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System) family of 227 mm rockets currently consists of two samples - M30 and M31. M30 destroys unprotected and lightly armored targets in the case when there is no exact data on their coordinates. The M31 missile, in turn, is designed to accurately hit stationary targets at previously reconnoitered coordinates. Each model has modifications. For M30, these are M30A1 and M30A2, for M31 - M31A1 and M31A2.

        The M30A1 uses an alternative warhead instead of a cluster warhead. It comes with 80 tungsten carbide balls. Application range - from 15 to 84 km. Circular probable deviation - 7 meters. The M30A2 modification differs from the A1 only in the engine.
        The M31 rocket projectile is a derivative of the M30 with a unitary high-explosive fragmentation warhead weighing 90 kg. The range of this RS the same.

        Next:
        There is also an ER GMLRS missile with a range increased to 150 km. The first test flight was made in March 2021. There is no talk yet about the transfer of missiles of this modification to Ukraine.
        1. +9
          21 March 2023 20: 20
          Sergey, as usual, for a detailed analysis - I bow! good Your articles themselves differ from the rest by their uniqueness from other content; however, each author is recognizable. But on our site you are a special, iconic writer - with your own theme, style of narration, way of "presenting" the material. hi
          Bravo! drinks
    3. -1
      21 March 2023 16: 07
      with a range greater than the GMLRS missiles currently used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine as part of HIMARS

      The unitary variant has a range, exceeding 70 kilometer.
      The AW variant has range over 70 kilometers and provides a 200-pound fragmentary warhead.

      All this drove up from the bushes / ravine pulnul, ran away.
      If there is no au jumping for 1 km, then no one will find it.
      Extended Managed (ER) Managed MLRS: A new developmental variation on the family of manageable MLRS, the ER GMLRS offers an extended range up to 150 kilometers in any weather conditions.
      https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/guided-mlrs-unitary-rocket.html
      JDAM to fly "more than 75km" (which is doubtful)
      It is necessary to raise the launcher to 10 km in height and accelerate to 950 km / h
      - he will be noticed 200 km and 10 minutes before reaching the line of attack, and will be shot down with a high probability
      75 km is distrustful, maybe
      https://www.boeing.com/history/products/joint-direct-attack-munition.page
      In August 2012, Boeing announced that a winged version of the JDAM would triple the weapon's glide range to over 40 miles (64 kilometers)


      https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104572/joint-direct-attack-munition-gbu-313238/
      For some reason you are comparing the foggy JDAM-ER with the standard GMLRS, ignoring the same foggy ER GMLRS
  2. +4
    21 March 2023 05: 50
    Hmm ... what informative article ... a lot of thoughts and questions appeared after reading
    The longer the NWO stretches out in time, the more opportunities the Armed Forces of Ukraine have to modernize their aviation ... and there may come a time when foreign NATO fighters will appear in service with the Ukronazis ... it's just a matter of time.
  3. +8
    21 March 2023 06: 31
    In simple terms, time works for them...
  4. -5
    21 March 2023 08: 54
    If an enemy aircraft maneuvered and did not end up in a given area, then the active radar homing head of the missile simply will not find it.
    Unlike ground-based systems, the transmission of radio correction signals has long been implemented on airborne V-V missiles, and a change in the parameters of the target’s movement will be transmitted to the missile !!!
    and the R-77 is launched along it in the cockpit of the attacked Ukrainian aircraft, a radar exposure alert is triggered, and the enemy aircraft, simultaneously with the release of metal foil, performs an intense evasive maneuver with low altitude.
    When the R-77 rocket is launched, the SPO will only work after the active seeker of the rocket is turned on, and it’s too late to drink Borjomi, there is no time to maneuver, and the foil is an obstacle only for the CHP-75 and the like.
    In most cases, in order not to be exposed to enemy air defense, the Russian fighter, after launching a missile, turns away from the line of contact, the enemy aircraft “falls out” of the Su-35S radar’s field of view, and the pilot usually does not observe the results of firing.
    Nothing falls out anywhere, due to the mechanical rotation of the canvas, the Su-35 radar can track targets up to angles of 120 degrees, and the old Mig-29 and Su-27 radars only up to 60 !!!
    1. +3
      21 March 2023 09: 05
      Quote: Hexenmeister
      Nothing falls out anywhere, due to the mechanical rotation of the canvas, the Su-35 radar can track targets up to angles of 120 degrees, and the old Mig-29 and Su-27 radars only up to 60 !!!

      Perhaps you didn't read carefully? When turning 180 degrees, the Su-35S radar is not able to accompany an enemy aircraft and carry out radio correction.
      1. +3
        21 March 2023 09: 14
        Quote: Tucan
        Quote: Hexenmeister
        Nothing falls out anywhere, due to the mechanical rotation of the canvas, the Su-35 radar can track targets up to angles of 120 degrees, and the old Mig-29 and Su-27 radars only up to 60 !!!

        Perhaps you didn't read carefully? When turning 180 degrees, the Su-35S radar is not able to accompany an enemy aircraft and carry out radio correction.

        Well, yes, I read it here, I didn’t read it here, but here I wrapped a herring. In general, "patriots" tend to wishful thinking.
        1. -6
          21 March 2023 09: 37
          To begin with, it would be nice for you yourself to understand the issues of the combat use of V-V missiles with various types of seeker, and not essentially write "nonsense".
      2. -5
        21 March 2023 09: 35
        Have you carefully watched the videos on which the ILS is shown during the attack ??? There were no 180-degree lapels there, and the launch ranges were indicated, and after the "stabilization" of the lapel, the "PR" appeared again, which indicated the control of the target by the radar, and the types of missiles were there, and who led the target too.
        1. +4
          21 March 2023 09: 49
          Quote: Hexenmeister
          Did you carefully watch the videos showing the HUD during the attack?

          It is extremely naive to judge by real combat work from videos. wassat
      3. +3
        21 March 2023 16: 28
        When turning 180 degrees, the Su-35S radar

        1. He didn’t talk about 180gr, but about 120
        2. "Irbis-E" gives on the advertisement:
        Viewing area:
        - elevation: ± 60 degrees;
        - in azimuth: ± 120 degrees.

        60 electronic scanning and 60 mechanical.
        Theoretically, in a roll maneuver, it can give 120+60=~180.
        And such a maneuver is used: it highlights the target for the seeker on the lapel, but only after the target is captured.
        And so, of course, he cannot survey 180 degrees in azimuth from himself
    2. +4
      21 March 2023 18: 23
      In contrast to ground-based systems on airborne V-V missiles, the transmission of radio correction signals has long been implemented

      belay
      Radio command guidance systems are those in which the missile's flight is controlled using commands generated at the control center and transmitted to the missile via the command radio control link. (Command guidance)
      Command guidance - a ground station, ship or aircraft via radio (sometimes via wires, like the Ruhrstahl X-4) transmits encrypted missile movement control commands to the missile, which lead to the interception of the target.

      Ground "100 years in the afternoon" S-25, S-75, S-125
      This "correction" is also command guidance.
      Accuracy drops very much with distance to the target.

      R-77 SPO will work only after turning on the active seeker of the missile

      77 have combined guidance, by definition, as for the S-200 (also 100 years old at lunch)
      Aspide and R-27, ILV with pargs, like Hawk: 2K12 "Cube", 9K37 "Buk"

      It's not because of "Borjomi and kidneys"
      The R-77 has a diameter of 20 cm, and the 9B1348(E) antenna sheet is even smaller. The power supply is weak there (hardly more than 1-2kW)

      Fourth root of transmitter power and effective antenna area recourse
      ARGSN is blind compared to the snow leopard and is unlikely to "see" further than 40 km, + capture angles
      Target designation angle from the carrier for R77 - NO MORE THAN 90 degrees. at the rate
      follow the targets

      Follow (detect) and issue target designation, accompany - somewhat different
      Radar Mig-29 and Su-27 only up to 60 !!!

      You bring ancient mammoths like H-019
      Already at Zhuk + -90 (in azimuth)


      The younger the better



      the Su-27-1M has a modernized H001:
      the ability to work with secondary radars ATS RBC in AC and A modes has been implemented;
      replacement of the regular block of the high-frequency receiver H019-09 with the block H019-09R2 with increased sensitivity and improved noise characteristics;
      replacement of the standard H001-22M master oscillator block with the H001-22R2 block with improved frequency generation and control modules;
      replacement of the regular digital processing unit BTsO-M with the BTsO-R unit with a high-performance signal processor, which makes it possible to significantly improve the selection of reflected signals.
      -
      Not yet CAR, but getting closer

      MiG-29MU1 in H019
      only replacement of the standard H019-09 high-frequency receiver block with the H019-09R2 block with increased sensitivity and improved noise characteristics;
      Both have +/-60
      The Russians seem to have N-019 M everywhere (+ -70), but more likely from N-010.
      H-010M or FAR H-011M / Sokol
      1. -2
        22 March 2023 08: 49
        "Correction" this is also command guidance
        No, not so, radio correction involves the transmission of target movement parameters, and not missile control commands, so much more optimal guidance methods can be implemented!
        Already at Zhuk + -90 (in azimuth)
        The beetle on the Su-27, according to the first table, is the wet dreams of its developers, there is essentially no series of it, and it never stood in service on the Su-27! Not authority!
        The second table, In addition to Bars and Bars, is again the wet dreams of the same developer, he wants it so much, but everything new has other radars !!!
        Su-27-1M has upgraded H001
        Painted beautifully, but the level of the aircraft, as a combat system, does not change!
        1. +2
          22 March 2023 09: 24
          So. Open the definition of any textbook and see.
          Coordinates or commands: it doesn't matter.
          This is exactly the same as the fact that a revolver is a pistol.
          these are the wet dreams of its developers,

          I don’t understand these matters of an intimate nature, those are male, but these are teaching materials of department 401.
          On the plate written on which yes it is installed and with which suo it interfaces.
          Notice in the tables there is not a word about the Zhuk-A radar and the Zhuk-AM radar
          Painted beautifully, but level
          not only painted, but also done., I only brought about bromine, and there are a couple more sheets.
          They have a very good system, for reasonable money.
          Well, the pilots of the Ukrainian Air Force proved this.
          1. -3
            22 March 2023 09: 51
            So. Open the definition of any textbook and see.
            The radio command method will not be able to implement the guidance methods that are available with radio correction, and this is not in the textbooks.
            The plate says on which yes it is installed and with which suo it is mated.
            Notice in the tables there is not a word about the Zhuk-A radar and the Zhuk-AM radar
            No Zhuks have ever been installed on the Su-27, and so modestly they missed the Bars variant for the MiG-29 in the table, which indicates the advertising nature of this table for a certain developer.
            They have a very good system, for reasonable money
            But as it was a level from the 80s, it remained so!
            1. 0
              27 March 2023 02: 36
              Of course, I am far from textbooks and the pilot's seat, but I cannot understand what you are arguing about. You initially assume that the target will receive a radiation warning, which is why the attacker will have to dodge. In fact, as far as I understand, it works a little differently. Modern fighter radars can detect a fighter-type target from a distance of 200-300 km. This is done using a short radio beam signal. If such a signal were caught by the radiation warning system, then as soon as you detected the enemy, it would automatically detect you at the same 200-300 km. But as far as I know, this does not happen. The radiation warning system works exactly when you are trying to highlight the target with a powerful constant beam, which the weak radar of your rocket should be guided by. Missiles with a semi-active homing head that flies the first 2/3 or 3/4 of the way, focusing on the reflection of your backlight beam. And this constant powerful signal is detected by the radiation warning system. However, for missiles that you launch using the inertial guidance scheme, which is characteristic of the AIM-120 and R-77 in the first section, you do not need to highlight the target, it is enough to follow it. Which should not trigger the exposure warning system. Thus, the target will not detect the launch. This is confirmed by the characteristics of the rocket. The starting speed of the R-77 is 4250 km / h, the range is 80 km, the range of capturing its own target seeker with an EPR is 5 sq.m, and this is a MiG-29 type target - 16 km. Capturing and shooting down such a target at a given distance with these characteristics is possible only if the target continues to move at a cruising speed of 900 km / h for the entire duration of the rocket flight, which approximately corresponds to the cruising speeds of jet aircraft. In this case, the rocket will fly at a speed of 4250 km / h, i.e. at a speed of a little more than 1 km / s, which will take about 80 seconds or 65 seconds until a misalignment of 16 km, from which the R-77 will be able to capture a MiG-type target 29. So, if at the time of launch the MiG-29 receives an exposure warning, turns on the afterburner and accelerates to at least 65 km / h in 1500 seconds, then it will be 27 km from the point of the intended impact, which is much more than 16 km. And if, of course, the rocket was not made by idiots, then they calculated all this, and probably, unless, of course, the declared characteristics are bullshit, then the target at the time of launch of the R-77 rocket should not receive an exposure warning, otherwise it will quite easily evade by deceiving and the inertial guidance system of the missile and its radar, which must find the target in the final section. The same is true for the AIM-120. But, if the target does not receive a radiation warning, then you don’t have to deviate much from anything, just follow the target and send radio commands to correct the inertial calculations. At least you can do this until you yourself are within range of enemy missiles. Or not?
              1. 0
                27 March 2023 12: 29
                You initially assume that the target will receive a radiation warning, which is why the attacker will have to dodge.
                The radiation warning system works exactly when you try to illuminate the target with a powerful constant beam
                The lapel for the attacker after the launch of the V-V missile is a preventive measure, since he himself can be detected by the attacked without triggering the SPO, of course, everything depends on many conditions, but in most cases the lapel will “break” the enemy’s launch zone, and he will have to get closer for longer , against the background of the fact that a rocket had already been fired at it. A 120-degree turn (which is possible on the Su-35S) essentially changes the launch hemisphere to a pursuit, where the maximum launch range will be many times less than the "beautiful" advertising data, but at the same time, the ability to control the missile to track target maneuvers remains.
                1. 0
                  27 March 2023 15: 16
                  Why does it change to "in pursuit" I did not understand at all? You launch an R-77 missile with an inertial guidance scheme in the first section towards a flying enemy from a distance of 80 km. At the same time, you are moving away from him rather slowly at an angle of 120 degrees to his flight path. 120 degrees is far from 180. Therefore, if the enemy has discovered you, then most likely the distance between you will even decrease if the speeds are equal. At the same time, you can observe it confidently from a distance of 300 km, and not 80, which means that during the flight of a rocket and your flight at 120 degrees from the enemy’s course, you will not exceed your distance to the enemy by more than 300 km, which means you can observe it and send corrective radio commands to the missile until it reaches 16 km from the target and locks the target with its radar. And what about the dogon mode?
                  1. 0
                    27 March 2023 15: 50
                    For the enemy, the launch conditions for you change to almost "in pursuit". Probably agree that the far boundaries of the launch on a target going strictly towards, across 90 degrees, and 120 degrees will be different, and the largest value will be for the case towards, and the smallest for the case of 120 degrees. And a lapel of 90 or 120 degrees is a matter of a few seconds, a rocket to the enemy will fly from a range of 60 ... 90 km for much longer. So it turns out that you launch your missile towards the enemy, and due to your maneuver, leave his launch zone for a meeting, while maintaining the ability to target the missile, however, the enemy can do the same, but he needs to know whether you launched the missile or not, But that's another issue...
  5. +4
    21 March 2023 09: 20
    hi
    As always, interesting!
    In terms of TSA, the position of Great Britain is also interesting: "..That the UK is ready to send longer-range weapons to Ukraine, Sunak said in early February ahead of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's first visit to London since the outbreak of hostilities. He also announced plans to expand the training of the Ukrainian military at sea and in the air, including fighter pilots and marines. ....
    The Ukrainian leader during his speech in the British Parliament asked to give his country "wings". Former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson then said that the kingdom “has more than a hundred Typhoon fighters and “more than a hundred Challenger 2 tanks” and asked to give the equipment to Kyiv. Sunak instructed the Minister of Defense to explore the possibility of sending fighter jets to Ukraine. Wallace later ruled out an immediate transfer of fighter jets to the Ukrainian military, promising long-range missiles and drones in return.

    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/18/02/2023/63f0e9219a79474f4b9f241e
    IMHO, the long-range weapon is Storm Shadow (warhead450 kg, range about 560 km or 250 km "for export").

    IMHO, nevertheless, but the photo of the Su27 with HARM is a montage. IMHO, again, all photos and videos of applications are from Mig29.

    As for the MiG29, the fate of the Azerbaijanis is interesting, which, IMHO, could "stay" in Ukraine during repairs last year.

    Again, IMHO (given the aggravation of the situation with the court in The Hague, which objectively drags out events for a long time), the "conditional West" needs to look for weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and NATO aviation and their TSA are a source from which you can supply the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a long time and a lot. So we are waiting for planes (which, IMHO, is more likely) and / or attacking helicopters (which is less likely).
  6. -8
    21 March 2023 13: 25
    Now the main brake in the NWO is Nach. General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Gerasimov. (The year is already going on at a snail's pace!) It is he who selects and places the highest command staff of the RF Armed Forces, directs the course and implementation of the NMD, organizes the preparation of operations, controls the implementation of military operations, i.e. in fact, he leads all the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation during the NWO. Surovikin is a protege and executor of Gerasimov's orders. It is necessary to appoint Prigozhin as the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and everything will instantly fall into place! And the aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and ammunition for the Ukrainian Air Force must be destroyed in the first place. It is better to destroy enemy aircraft with incendiary combat weapons (burns well), with the help of special cluster warheads, warheads with a volumetric explosion, and also with the help of special combat operations. Taking into account the intensification of military operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it is necessary to move the entire reserve of the RF Armed Forces to the NMD, bring them closer to the places of hostilities and potential directions of the main attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And the control of security and law and order in the liberated territories should be entrusted to the National Guard, units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the military militia of the front-line regions. It is necessary to make more active use in the NMD of large strike, armored combat units and the Airborne Forces, which have great mobility and strike power. It is necessary to fight as Suvorov taught, due to high-speed maneuver and the onslaught of the RF Armed Forces. Good luck to all fighters of the RF Armed Forces in the NWO!
    1. +2
      22 March 2023 22: 51
      . it is necessary to move the entire reserve of the RF Armed Forces to the NMD, bring it closer to the places of hostilities and
      . ..... And ..... and it will be like with that technical school, and then again we will "scratch" that "they are to blame"
  7. +4
    21 March 2023 21: 36
    In short, a complete ass!
    What we shall do?!
    1. -3
      22 March 2023 22: 54
      Well, let them send these of their F- ..., pieces 10, well, or 15, well, at least 50 pieces, well, why don’t we have enough missiles?
  8. 0
    21 March 2023 22: 16
    I wonder why the Poles do not supply Su-17s from their Air Force?
    1. +1
      21 March 2023 22: 27
      Yes, they are all dead.
      + with what to fly there? With PrNK-54?
  9. +5
    23 March 2023 03: 23
    Yeah! According to Konashenkov's reports, the number of aircraft shot down by the Armed Forces of Ukraine is simply off scale. As of March 22.03.2023, 403, the APU lost as many as 224 aircraft and 300 helicopters. I read somewhere that XNUMX thousand rubles are paid for a downed plane. Maybe this is the reason for such a large number of declared victories. Or reports go by the number of missile launches. Released means knocked down.
    After the destruction of the declared 80 aircraft, incl. 20 in the air in the reports at the briefing, a division into types began, which included 50 Su-24s, more than 140 Su-25s, 35 Su-27s and more than 100 MiG-29s. Of these, 23 Su-24s, 51 Su-25s, 16 Su-27s and 60 MiG-29s were “destroyed” in air combat. If such figures are stated for the sake of calming the common people, then this is understandable. And if for these planes paid. So no taxes are enough to support such a war.